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- danosphere [19:18]
- Hey guys sorry I'm still at work- my workload leading up to the holiday break ramps up exponentially so yes, this week has sucked
- danosphere [19:18]
- and additionally there is legal chaos afoot that I can't disclose which we NEED to focus on- that has not changed the updated blockmarket date tho
- danosphere [19:19]
- @johnd is the one working on the peg and yeah I'm primarly the one on blockmarket, alpha version still targeted for this coming Monday
- danosphere [19:19]
- I have not been able to work on it recently due to the legal stuff, i mean I had to write a damn forensic tool to prove all our BTC was stolen, and not by a bug
- danosphere [19:19]
- spending time coding things like that is not something is _want_ to do
- sphericon [19:20]
- things are going quite slow at the moment in regards to development. It's understandable considering all the legal bullshit that you need to deal with. Perhaps we should look into getting more devs on staff that don't have to deal with legal stuff?
- sphericon [19:20]
- things keep getting pushed back, and under the circumstances, it makes sense
- sphericon [19:20]
- but that doesn't change the fact that the coin is not moving forward (at least that's the perception people are getting)
- sphericon [19:22]
- and i feel really kind of bad saying this stuff because you've been really nice danosphere, and i'm sure you're just under a lot of stress with everything. But i have put real $$ into this thing too, and I'm starting to get a little stressed as well :wink:
- danosphere [19:22]
- Yeah no i agree we should get some devs on staff- it sucks to sit down ready to move things forward just to check email and see I need to take 2 steps back
- danosphere [19:23]
- I have put incredible amounts of real money into this, and over 8months of my life
- sphericon [19:23]
- techo said he would pay a couple btc for a dev
- sphericon [19:23]
- or perhaps you guys could put some of the bounties in for payment for a dev?
- danosphere [19:23]
- we need to source a dev tho willing to work for the amount we can put together
- sphericon [19:23]
- motivational SYS, as it were.
- sphericon [19:23]
- sure.
- danosphere [19:23]
- we can def commit SYS as well towards a dev
- sphericon [19:23]
- i'm glad you're open to another dev
- danosphere [19:23]
- so it could be BTC + SYS, we'll priovide the SYS
- sphericon [19:23]
- i was afraid you'd be upset about it
- danosphere [19:23]
- no not at all
- sphericon [19:24]
- is coderboo sitting on the sidelines waiting for btc to come from moolah?
- danosphere [19:24]
- its just hard to find and its impossible for me to look for a dev and do all the other *stuff*
- sphericon [19:24]
- no commits since oct on github really :confused:
- sphericon [19:24]
- i hear you.
- sphericon [19:24]
- and i can imagine
- danosphere [19:24]
- there are tho
- danosphere [19:24]
- they are just in hidden projects
- danosphere [19:24]
- private repos
- danosphere [19:24]
- but still- we need more dev power
- danosphere [19:24]
- we need another C++ dev and a strong web dev and we'd be set imo
- sphericon [19:24]
- it wouldn't hurt if he said hi in chat/btc now and then either :wink:
- sphericon [19:25]
- would probably do a lot for the community morale
- sphericon [19:25]
- bct*
- danosphere [19:25]
- yeah coderboo?
- sphericon [19:25]
- yes
- sphericon [19:25]
- ive never seen him speak
- sphericon [19:25]
- ever
- danosphere [19:25]
- lol uh, he lost his job cause of Syscoin so he's kinda focused on income
- danosphere [19:25]
- and getting it back
- danosphere [19:25]
- so you'll have to excuse him if he skips pleasantries most of the time
- danosphere [19:25]
- he has a family :confused:
- sphericon [19:25]
- btw, thanks for being so not upset about this
- sphericon [19:26]
- some would have responded with defense
- sphericon [19:26]
- but you are actually talking reasonably
- danosphere [19:26]
- yeah no not upset at all, rather I support it and want to figure out how we can make it happen
- danosphere [19:26]
- we certainly have enough people in the collective to help "Search" for someone
- sphericon [19:26]
- yah
- danosphere [19:26]
- and once we have someone who is legit we can easily vet them- @sphericon you know code and we can review their past work too thats no problemo
- sphericon [19:26]
- and if you put it out that syscoin is expanding and looking for a dev
- sphericon [19:27]
- perhaps the new PR guy could be announced as well
- sphericon [19:27]
- and he could do the talking
- danosphere [19:27]
- Yeah totally
- sphericon [19:27]
- that would really show people that SYS is on the right track
- sphericon [19:27]
- its all about perception.
- danosphere [19:27]
- i think this is the kind of stuff that is good to talk about on the tcall this saturday (its lookin like)
- sphericon [19:27]
- sure
- sphericon [19:27]
- i know you're at work.
- sphericon [19:27]
- you should not get yelled at again :wink:
- danosphere [19:27]
- but something else to think about re: hiring dev
- danosphere [19:27]
- yeah right lol
- kamronk [19:27]
- I feel the call will help alot :simple_smile:
- danosphere [19:28]
- is equity and payment- so like say we give them 1mil SYS or something but its based on deliverables
- kamronk [19:28]
- It gives ppl the chance to get some real tim eimmediate communication
- sphericon [19:28]
- makes sense, don't want somebody skipping town
- sphericon [19:28]
- with sys
- danosphere [19:28]
- we don't want to put up a huge SYS bounty for them to crush the market with it I guess thats my point
- sphericon [19:28]
- already happened :wink:
- sphericon [19:28]
- ahh ok
- danosphere [19:28]
- and you want them to develop for SYS in a more long term sense
- sphericon [19:28]
- right
- danosphere [19:28]
- not do one lil thing for a big bounty, dump and leave
- sphericon [19:28]
- for the record, i haven't sold a single sys, including bounty.
- danosphere [19:29]
- so maybe its something where they get a equity stake, and % of that is paid out every month or week or whatever as they continue to commit / develop / do work
- sphericon [19:29]
- i suppose the details could be worked out later
- sphericon [19:29]
- the important part is doing an announcement of it
- sphericon [19:29]
- officially
- danosphere [19:29]
- if they need to take a vaca or something cool- their equity is still there but they just don't get paid out on those weeks or soemthing
- sphericon [19:29]
- and talking about PR and PM
- danosphere [19:29]
- yeah i agree
- sphericon [19:29]
- that shit is marketing gold
- sphericon [19:29]
- imo
- danosphere [19:29]
- and we really gotta forumulate that plan on the call saturday imo
- danosphere [19:30]
- cause if we all get aligned on it (collective level) then we can roll it out proper
- sphericon [19:30]
- and that's something this team really needs help with imo, is marketing and perception
- danosphere [19:30]
- if its only a few ppl who are aware or people aren unclear on the plan, won't be good
- sphericon [19:30]
- agreed, and we want everyone on the same page as well
- kamronk [19:30]
- I feel the marketing has to be timed right else we risk losing momentum as people try to use it and get frustrated/dissapointed
- danosphere [19:30]
- @kamronk good point for sure
- sphericon [19:30]
- kamronk, you're right. and i'm not the right one to manage that for sure, i'm terrible at that stuff
- sphericon [19:31]
- i get ideas, and the other people are the ones that can make things happen :wink:
- danosphere [19:31]
- thats where the call will help, we got good ppl here to help and as soon as legal is closed things will dramatically change
- kamronk [19:31]
- That's the way it should work around the table :smile: we all present ideas, and the best ones are unanimously agreed upon
- danosphere [19:31]
- but i totally agree we need to keep things moving (faster) in the interim
- sphericon [19:31]
- dano, i know you can't say much about legal, but do you get a sense that legal won't go on forever?
- danosphere [19:31]
- legal will definitely not go on forever
- sphericon [19:31]
- cuz in the community's head, it is ongoing and will never stop
- danosphere [19:31]
- 100%.
- sphericon [19:32]
- and it is probably why price is diving too
- danosphere [19:32]
- lol think about how it feels for me
- kamronk [19:32]
- IMO a short time in legal = a long time IRL == uber long itme on the interwebz
- sphericon [19:32]
- i know, you can't tell us
- sphericon [19:32]
- and you probably have an answer that would make us happy
- sphericon [19:32]
- ecstatic even
- sphericon [19:32]
- but can't say a word
- danosphere [19:32]
- yes and yes :-X
- sphericon [19:32]
- so you have to spin what you *can* say
- sphericon [19:32]
- which is discussing looking for dev
- sphericon [19:32]
- talking about PM/PR
- sphericon [19:32]
- etc
- danosphere [19:32]
- and I have to be careful, fucking Ryan kennedy spies all over the place
- sphericon [19:32]
- then if we get anything back in BTC that's just gravy
- sphericon [19:33]
- yes, agreed, don't say anything.
- kamronk [19:33]
- I worry that this is in general and not syscoin-collective (my opinion)
- danosphere [19:33]
- we did win the winding up petition and we are working with a liquidator
- danosphere [19:33]
- I can say that :simple_smile:
- sphericon [19:33]
- awesome
- danosphere [19:33]
- and liquidators be powerful ppl in UK
- danosphere [19:33]
- they can reach into personal accounts, and just take the funds
- kamronk [19:33]
- sounds intimidating lol
- kamronk [19:33]
- "liquidator"
- danosphere [19:33]
- but we just started working with them today so, will take some time to get that sorted but they are not to be messed with
- kamronk [19:34]
- 'You're here to sell all my sheet and take my moneys'?????
- techo051 [19:34]
- Awesome
- danosphere [19:34]
- they get paid when we get paid == motivation
- danosphere [19:34]
- Yep, and thanks! they say :wink:
- kamronk [19:34]
- Nice
- danosphere [19:34]
- yeah its just frustrating to not be able to code- im a damn coder
- techo051 [19:35]
- Any idea how much it would cost to hire a decent c++ and web Dev for a few months?
- danosphere [19:35]
- blockmarket is something im so excited about and it sucks to know its been f'n sitting there for a month
- techo051 [19:35]
- Or would there be an ongoing need for them as well?
- danosphere [19:35]
- im not sure tbh, and a key thing there would be vetting them enough to make sure they are legit
- danosphere [19:35]
- lots of "coders" we need a real dev
- sphericon [19:35]
- back for a sec-would it be ok to pastebin this and put on irc so people can see this chat? or is it not public...
- danosphere [19:36]
- it should be contractual at first I think, 3months- and expand from there
- danosphere [19:36]
- anything in #general can be posted publicly imo
- danosphere [19:36]
- eventually we'll have the bridge setup so it just IS posted to IRC automatically
- danosphere [19:36]
- and vice versa
- sphericon [19:37]
- just wanted to make sure that i'm not doing anything that ppl don't want.
- danosphere [19:37]
- @jonn4y is working with the liquidator since he is in the UK. Lol we were talking yesterday and I was like "Can you please handle this one- email this guy?". He was like "i'll just call him, np"
- danosphere [19:37]
- I was like oh yea duh your like next door to him :simple_smile:
- sphericon [19:37]
- what you've said in the last few minutes would go really far to make people feel good about syscoin.
- danosphere [19:38]
- yeah feel free to share it- wish I could repost to IRC and all that but the boss... >:-|
- sphericon [19:38]
- of course
- sphericon [19:38]
- i will do what I can to transpose it.
- sphericon [19:38]
- LOL
- danosphere [19:40]
- alright i gotta get back to work and there is a company event tonight too (ye olde holiday party) so I prob won't be around tonight but I'll be on tomorrow and of course checking the collective group posts for the time we'll be talking on Saturday
- danosphere [19:40]
- if you're part of the syscoin-collective please see my post there :simple_smile:
- sphericon [19:40]
- cool
- sphericon [19:40]
- thanks for chatting dude
- sphericon [19:40]
- we appreciate it
- danosphere [19:44]
- yeah no problem, sorry im not on here more at night i literally get home, shower/eat and then its legal work til 12a at the earliest (latest?) usually til 2a
- danosphere [19:44]
- and doing that for a month sucks, but im comitted to this thing fully
- danosphere [19:45]
- not just for getting the BTC back but for Syscoin, and what it can do and where it can take things
- danosphere [19:45]
- so is coderboo, he talks with me literally everyday
- danosphere [19:45]
- its just about legal crap right now, temporary condition and another dev will aid in that sense immensely
- techo051 [19:45]
- Cool thanks dano
- danosphere [19:47]
- np :simple_smile: back to to work for me, will be back soon as possible (and I always read what i've missed anyway, much as I can)
- danosphere [19:47]
- gets back to the grind
- sphericon [19:47]
- bye dano
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