Teaser 2 Stratfor Calls Anon and Wikileaks hippie arseholes

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TITLE: STRATFOR ANALYZES ANONYMOUS AND WIKILEAKS
> they called us hippie arseholes  :(
> and that we ll be 'hard to kill'
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From: scott.stewart@stratfor.com

To: analysts@stratfor.com

List Name: mailto:analysts@stratfor.com

Subject: RE: Wiki Hackers Talk to The Economist

Date: 2010-12-10 20:25:20

Content:

   I also think there are more folks who are willing to be hacktivists than
   those who are willing to get tear gassed or charge a police line. It is
   more anonymous and less dangerous/uncomfortable.


   From: analysts-bounces@stratfor.com [mailto:analysts-bounces@stratfor.com]
   On Behalf Of Peter Zeihan
   Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 2:21 PM
   To: analysts@stratfor.com
   Subject: Re: Wiki Hackers Talk to The Economist


   ull never get rid of it completely -- as long as there are young people
   with no assets and a perception that they've nothing to lose this will
   exist

   but in times when home ownership is growing and there is a perception of a
   threat, the numbers of folks who will do this is very low -- while at the
   same time the state's ability to deal with them is relatively high and
   support in broader society is questionable at best for such anarchists

   On 12/10/2010 12:51 PM, Chris Farnham wrote:

   And what happens if your core are people in Chicago, Oslo, Aukland, Perth,
   Munich, Gothenburg, etc. who are not afraid and are only two years out of
   college working for a marketing company and their biggest financial
   liability is your AT&T monthly invoice?

   As I said, these guys are not yet a major destabilising force, but you
   look at the human flesh search engines in China, they unsettle the Party
   on a monthly basis with their ability track, identify, locate and out
   whatever target takes their interest and that has included Party members
   in the past.

   Wikileaks is a big deal in the world of the anti-establishment and the
   network based activists, it has displayed potential to strike at the
   established powers via information proliferation hand in hand with the
   conventional media. That's power and Anon has now latched on to the
   bandwagon. These guys have already crossed from net based activism to
   physical world activism, it has already happened at a very small level.

   As I said, the core may not be the danger but the fanatical fringe amongst
   them are knowledgeable, motivated, organised and spread across the world
   with a non-state, nihilistic agenda. Sounds somewhat familiar, no?

   I'm not saying that this shit is going down. I'm saying that there is
   significant potential there and to ignore it could be quite a mistake
   because if it doesn't make anything of itself, as Mike Mooney has said, it
   has created a wonderful template for others who may be more determined.


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   From: "Peter Zeihan"
   To: analysts@stratfor.com
   Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 2:35:25 AM
   Subject: Re: Wiki Hackers Talk to The Economist

   yeah - its always there, but there are two trends in western soceities
   that have traditionally kept it weak for the past few decades: rising home
   ownership and the presence of an enemy

   if ur afraid you want a strong state, and if you have a mortgage you don't
   riot

   On 12/10/2010 12:31 PM, Marko Papic wrote:

   Agreed completely. They have definitely toned done and terrorism has lost
   its cool "edge" after 9-11.

   But things go in waves... I mean there is nothing new about anarchism. I
   would argue it is hormonal. You can't ever really weed it out, it is not
   purely ideological. You are always going to find young men who think they
   are destined for greatness.

   On 12/10/10 12:23 PM, scott stewart wrote:

   Yes, but....


   The anarchist movement had generated a lot of momentum in the physical
   world around the time of the millennium with the battle in Seattle, London
   May Day and the WEF violence in Davos.  They lost a lot of steam after
   9/11.


   We still have yet to see them regain the mass, momentum and numbers they
   had a decade ago. WTO and G-7 meetings are far more peaceful.


   From: analysts-bounces@stratfor.com [mailto:analysts-bounces@stratfor.com]
   On Behalf Of Marko Papic
   Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 1:13 PM
   To: analysts@stratfor.com
   Subject: Re: Wiki Hackers Talk to The Economist


   I agree with Chris.

   We have to be aware that "anarchism" has deep deep roots in history and
   has been violent in many ways many times.

   I am afraid, for example, that all the anti-globalization people in Europe
   are looking to hitch a new wagon. I am worried that the protests in the UK
   and all this net anarchism activity could somehow bizzarly get connected.

   I have no real evidence, but I do think that is potential for net
   anarchism to get its real world anarchist equivalent.

   I think we need to consider what Chris is saying very seriously. The cross
   over into physical/real life is a serious potential.

   On 12/10/10 11:51 AM, Chris Farnham wrote:

   I watch anon and /b/ and have done for  a while now (no I do not chan).
   There are some interesting crossovers with AQ and the
   decentralization/motivation of ideology. I don't think they have yet
   reached a point where they have become a cogent threat to security.
   However this wikileaks thing has the potential to be a catalyst for them.
   A web based subversive entity has just rocked the world for two weeks,
   that's dynamite for these guys.

   The chaners/anon/b are educated and at the leading edge of network based
   technology, have a nebulous structure of loyal people spread through the
   world with no nationalistic foundations bit drawn together under a shared
   interest in chaos (hentai and cats, for fuck sake). There are numerous
   examples where they have uncovered identities and all personal details of
   people based on a single photo (of a woman putting a cat in a garbage bin,
   for example) and bought some serious vigilanty style justice to those they
   disagree with. They have also crossed over into the physical/real life
   world a number of times.

   These guys are on the same level as the Chinese human flesh seach engines
   and quite possibly the cyber warfare units of many developed countries
   today.

   Most importantly, for the US at least, I have noted a number of militant
   libertarians within their periphery.

   It's going to be very interesting to watch what anon does in the
   'post-wilileaks' environment. If they move from a bunch of tech geeks in
   mum's basement into a real movement they could cause serious trouble and
   be hard to kill. The coresy not be the problem but the few unhinged among
   them could prove to be quite destructive if so inclined.

   Sent from my iPhone

   On Dec 11, 2010, at 1:25, Fred Burton  wrote:

   These global hippies and arseholes are like CHAOS or THRUSH.

   Fred Burton wrote:

   http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/12/more_wikileaks

   I am talking to members of a group called "Anonymous", using a web-based
   collaborative text-editing service. It is the first such interview for
   all of us, and their answers begin to collide on the page. One member
   comes from Norway; another shows surprise, then offers that she is from
   New Zealand. Another writes that group members come from Nepal and
   Eastern Russia. They all speak through pseudonyms, but I don't even know
   which psuedonym comes from what country because shortly after I read
   these answers, someone who calls himself "Tux" erases them all and writes


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