Tolee

04 October 2013
20:26 - Tolee™: hi there
20:26 - Christmasham: What's up
20:27 - Tolee™: do you want anything added to your inventory
20:27 - Tolee™: i'll mod it
20:27 - Tolee™: i gotta wait 20 mins
20:27 - Tolee™: until i can work on le gtarp
20:27 - Christmasham: I'm fine, thanks for offering though :) - I don't think the inventory needs any modding'
20:28 - Tolee™: does it have configureable inventory slots for different ranks?
20:28 - Christmasham: Yeah
20:28 - Tolee™: sweet
20:28 - Tolee™: 1 thiong
20:28 - Tolee™: your zones script
20:28 - Tolee™: needs to be updated
20:28 - Tolee™: its outdated
20:28 - Christmasham: I was thinking of removing it because I don't really use it / need it
20:29 - Tolee™: update it and use the spawn protection
20:29 - Tolee™: so zombies cant spawnrape you
20:29 - Christmasham: Not a bad idea'
20:29 - Tolee™: do you have a crafting system?
20:30 - Christmasham: No
20:30 - Tolee™: if you ever want one
20:30 - Tolee™: contact me
20:30 - Tolee™: i can do them like a breeze
20:30 - Christmasham: Would it be a job? if so how much would it cost?
20:30 - Tolee™: uh
20:30 - Tolee™: depends on how much you want
20:31 - Christmasham: Not sure if I need a crafting system, I know there's a cheap one on coderhire at the moment for $7, don't think I particularly need it though
20:31 - Tolee™: coderhire is never the best thing
20:31 - Tolee™: to get things off of
20:31 - Tolee™: mass produced items = people join your server
20:31 - Tolee™: "aw, i saw this on another server"
20:31 - Tolee™: and leave
20:32 - Tolee™: always consider hiring a individual coder first
20:32 - Christmasham: true' I'm not especially bothered though' I'm not trying to make my server "Super custom modified epic super serious RP with the best admins ever!"
20:32 - Tolee™: if you have mass produced scripts
20:32 - Tolee™: people want to join a server
20:32 - Tolee™: to find something new
20:33 - Christmasham: True, again, but I really started this server a few day's ago so my friend's clan would have a place to roleplay on as they're a military group
20:33 - Christmasham: I'm not trying to bring 100% innovation to DarkRP
20:33 - Christmasham: Just a fun roleplaying experience'
20:34 - Tolee™: whats the point of running a server if you have no planned profit
20:34 - Christmasham: Because I find it fun
20:34 - Christmasham: I don't make servers for profit
20:34 - Tolee™: do you know lua?
20:34 - Christmasham: not much, a little'
20:34 - Christmasham: Only enough to read really
20:34 - Tolee™: so whats fun about servers
20:34 - Tolee™: lol
20:34 - Tolee™: reading lua
20:34 - Tolee™: isnt considering knowing lua
20:35 - Tolee™: anybody can read a lua script
20:35 - Tolee™: after the first 5 minutes
20:35 - Christmasham: I like hosting server's / roleplaying on my own server, what's wrong with that?
20:35 - Tolee™: do you get charged for any of your servers?
20:35 - Christmasham: Yes
20:35 - Tolee™: so when you run out of money
20:35 - Tolee™: its done
20:36 - Tolee™: and you go make another server
20:36 - Christmasham: If I run out of money, I can't afford to go make another server, I just stop
20:36 - Christmasham: It's something I enjoy, It's a little hobby, I'm not doing anything for profit, I'm only losing money, don't see what's hard to understand really
20:36 - Christmasham: Garry's mod isn't a business
20:37 - Christmasham: It's a game, for fun'
20:37 - Tolee™: you can take gmod as a game
20:37 - Tolee™: and a business
20:37 - Tolee™: i take it as a business
20:37 - Christmasham: Well I take it as a game'
20:37 - Tolee™: but then again
20:37 - Tolee™: im spending $200 a month
20:37 - Tolee™: for a huge server box
20:37 - Tolee™: and im making around $700 a month
20:37 - Tolee™: from doing lua jobs
20:38 - Christmasham: If you're a lua coder then it's easy to make money, it's also possible to earn a lot of money from successful server's and donations, but I don't have the time, knoweldge or find it worthwhile enough to do that.
20:38 - Christmasham: knowledge *
21:25 - Tolee™ is now Online.
21:31 - Tolee™: do you have FPP?
21:31 - Christmasham: What is that?
21:31 - Tolee™: prop protection
21:31 - Tolee™: if not
21:31 - Tolee™: good
21:31 - Christmasham: Oh Falco's Prop protection?
21:32 - Tolee™: yes
21:32 - Tolee™: do you have it?
21:32 - Christmasham: That's enabled by default so yes
21:32 - Tolee™: no it isnt.
21:32 - Tolee™: FPP isn't in darkrp
21:32 - Tolee™: its seperate
21:32 - Christmasham: When was the last time you hosted a DarkRP server?
21:32 - Tolee™: a day ago.
21:32 - Tolee™: FPP is not in darkrp
21:32 - Tolee™: the core files of FPP are in darkrp
21:32 - Christmasham: It is...
21:32 - Tolee™: no, it is not.
21:33 - Tolee™: FPP is not part of darkrp
21:33 - Tolee™: FPP is VISIBLE in darkrp
21:33 - Tolee™: but it doesnt function
21:33 - Tolee™: as fpp is coded into the main.lua
21:33 - Christmasham: Well it functions for me, I use it'
21:33 - Christmasham: I use it for blacklists on props'
21:33 - Tolee™: then your not using a github repository
21:33 - Tolee™: well
21:33 - Tolee™: anyway
21:33 - Christmasham: of course I'm not, I'm using the one in-built with DarkRP
21:33 - Tolee™: you shouldnt use it
21:33 - Christmasham: Why
21:33 - Tolee™: its buggy as hell
21:33 - Tolee™: want me to throw in my prop protection?
21:33 - Tolee™: its very good
21:34 - Christmasham: I'm fine, thanks for the offer though'
21:34 - Tolee™: be open for ideas
21:34 - Tolee™: FPP is basd.
21:34 - Tolee™: bad>
21:34 - Christmasham: I'm not bothered really'
21:34 - Tolee™: so you rather have a non functioning no-propkill system
21:35 - Tolee™: then a very good impossible propkill system?
21:35 - Tolee™: that is impossible to propkill with
21:35 - Tolee™: it would also work with your inventory if you ever add that in
21:35 - Tolee™: it would make it impossible to spam from the inventory
21:35 - Tolee™: it ghosts the prop when you spawn it
21:36 - Tolee™: and when you pick the prop it
21:36 - Tolee™: it ghosts it
21:36 - Tolee™: so its impossible to propkill
21:36 - Tolee™: making your zombierp
21:36 - Christmasham: All this is brilliant, well and good, but like I said before, the server I'm creating isn't designed to be the best / revolutionary or anything'
21:36 - Tolee™: better.
21:36 - Christmasham: It just probably isn't worth your time'
21:36 - Tolee™: throwing in a addon?
21:36 - Tolee™: pff
21:36 - Tolee™: its a addon.
21:36 - Tolee™: and all i need to do is add in a single hook
21:36 - Tolee™: to make it impossible to spam from the inventory
21:36 - Tolee™: i insist on doing it, since i hate being propkilled on darkrp
21:37 - Christmasham: I have a little anti - propkill script I can add which basically ghosts props when you move them
21:37 - Tolee™: you bought Phoenix's anti-propkill
21:37 - Tolee™: which is buggy
21:37 - Tolee™: and it messes up props and causes lag
21:37 - Tolee™: when you move props
21:38 - Christmasham: Well if you're offering, I wouldn't mind using your anti prop kill system, it sounds great, I'd rather keep the inventory vanilla/untouched however - I don't particularly see inventory spamming as an issue since you can only place weapons in there
21:38 - Tolee™: the inventory spam =
21:39 - Tolee™: when you spawn a weapon over and over again
21:39 - Tolee™: it increases the data usage
21:39 - Tolee™: of the other players
21:39 - Tolee™: making the server frames drop
21:39 - Tolee™: the script = would cause it so you cant do thaqt
21:39 - Christmasham: I don't particularly see it as being a problem I'd experience, I can understand it from GTA RP's point of view because that'll be a large and popular gamemode
21:40 - Christmasham: but this is just a small crappy DarkRP
21:40 - Tolee™: its better to make it impossible to do something then make something make-do
21:40 - Tolee™: beleiving that nobody will screw with it
21:40 - Tolee™: trust me
21:40 - Tolee™: i did that
21:40 - Tolee™: and it was the complete opposite
21:41 - Christmasham: Yeah, I completely understand, but I just don't think it's worth doing for my server
21:41 - Tolee™: because your trying to make do with what you have
21:41 - Tolee™: and you should be open for all possibilities
21:41 - Tolee™: of improvement
21:43 - Christmasham: Yeah, I don't mind making do, It's what I do' I'm never going to make a super popular server, I don't intend to, I'm just making something to have fun on with my friends you know?
21:43 - Tolee™: it doesn't matter if its popular
21:43 - Tolee™: its quality
21:43 - Tolee™ is now playing Garry's Mod. Click here to join.
21:44 - Christmasham: True, I'd still prefer to keep all my addons as vanilla as possible in case any problems arise or if they need updating in the future
21:44 - Tolee™: if there is a problem with it
21:44 - Tolee™: i'll fix it
21:44 - Tolee™: but i dont want a shitty server
21:44 - Tolee™: that you wasted your time with
21:44 - Tolee™: to have all of these loop holes
21:44 - Tolee™: for everything
21:44 - Tolee™: if its just for your friends
21:44 - Tolee™: why did you buy a report system?
21:45 - Tolee™: your friends would give 2 shits for that
21:45 - Tolee™: they would just go up to you
21:45 - Christmasham: I just liked it'
21:46 - Tolee™: alright
21:46 - Tolee™: i'll stop offering
21:46 - Tolee™: do whatever you want
21:46 - Tolee™: i've got work to do instead of spending 10 minutes trying to make your server better
21:47 - Christmasham: I really like the offers and I appreciate all the help you're giving me, I just think most of it is unnececary for a server like mine, other people could probably benefit a lot more from your work / time than I could.
21:48 - Tolee™: I offered
21:48 - Tolee™: Not you
21:48 - Christmasham: Er, that's what I said..
21:48 - Tolee™: No
21:48 - Tolee™: Your saying it like I didn't offer
21:49 - Christmasham: Could you quote me? because I'm confused
21:49 - Tolee™: " I just think most of it is unnececary for a server like mine, other people could probably benefit a lot more from your work / time than I could.
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21:49 - Tolee™: i offered to do it
21:49 - Tolee™: i dont give 2 shits who deserves it more
21:49 - Christmasham: Now, let me break that sentence down for you, because you seem to be getting the wrong message:
21:50 - Christmasham: "I just think most of it is unnececary for a server like mine" - you are offering a lot of good work and time, but it is wasted on me.
21:50 - Christmasham: "Other people could probably benefit a lot more from your work / time than I could" Your time / work could be used on other, more important people / servers rather than a simple DarkRP with little aspirations like mine.
21:50 - Tolee™: If I offered to do it
21:50 - Tolee™: I don't care if I waste time
21:51 - Tolee™: Its for good
21:51 - Christmasham: Ok.
21:51 - Tolee™: How i'm interpreting this;
21:51 - Tolee™: You don't want me to do it because you think i'll screw shit up
21:51 - Tolee™: or
21:51 - Tolee™: Steal your shit that you bought
21:51 - Tolee™: or
21:51 - Tolee™: you just don't want my work
21:51 - Tolee™: and
21:51 - Tolee™: if that is the case
21:51 - Tolee™: just tell me that
21:53 - Christmasham: You don't seem to know me very well, if you knew me well like my friends, you'd know It's not any of the above reasons, as I've stated several times, my server is simple, designed just to play with my friends mainly, I don't want to waste yours or anybody else's time - if you spend time helping me out, adding all these custom plugins, I'm going to end up dissapointing you, and you're just going to see me as a disapointment, I'd rather not have to rely on anyone so If i do run into trouble, It's only me I have to say anything for'
21:53 - Tolee™: If I offered to do it
21:53 - Tolee™: I don't see it as a dissapointment
21:55 - Christmasham: Well, I appreciate the offers, honestly, I still think they're wasted on me, your GTA RP sounds a lot more demanding / important, and you could probably help out with some of the gamemodes in development on Facepunch such as the Dissolution Schema - at least I think that's what It's called'
21:56 - Tolee™: Alright then, i'm heading off. If you need help with anything, you can readd me since my friends list is full and I add people to help them, and you obviously don't want my help.
21:56 - Tolee™ is now Offline.