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  1. [08:16:31] qmisato: THIS HUNCH ISN'T EVEN BASED ON BIBLICAL SYMBOLISM, IT'S JUST CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE MOVIE
  2. [08:16:44] qmisato: i'll stop with the raging caps now
  3. [08:17:16] qritsuko: yes? i am listening
  4. [08:18:33] qmisato: oh man i start typing up these interpretations of select scenes but i stop myself and i'm like "ida. ida what the hell is wrong with you. this is reaching to the ninth degree of absurdity. stop this nonsense" but at the same time i can't get it out of my head
  5. [08:18:49] qmisato: are you ready to be embarrassed on my behalf
  6. [08:18:56] qritsuko: absolutely
  7. [08:19:20] qritsuko: this is evangelion we're talking about, of course
  8. [08:19:41] qmisato: takes a deep, shaking breath...... here we go.....
  9. [08:20:04] qritsuko: [rests a hand on your shoulder] i believe in you, and in nonsensical theories
  10. [08:22:25] qmisato: the idea of kaji and misato having a child actually never crossed my mind until you wrote up that speculation and we talked about it extensively shortly afterwards, but once the potential was planted in my head i went ahead and rewatched 2.0 with that in mind, which augmented my lens completely
  11. [08:22:39] qritsuko: [leans forward] yess?
  12. [08:22:46] qmisato: so, you know how kaji essentially functions as a fortune teller in 2.0
  13. [08:23:20] qritsuko: ah, yes.
  14. [08:23:49] qmisato: as in, nearly all of his scenes betoken an event in 3.0 (taro u, gender has nothing to do with love, so and so forth)
  15. [08:24:06] qritsuko: right
  16. [08:24:47] qmisato: (excuse my general slowness in articulating this rn, this is the first time I've really put this into words)
  17. [08:24:54] qritsuko: that's fine!
  18. [08:25:04] qritsuko: i'm not rushing
  19. [08:25:10] qritsuko: i might be russian, but not rushing
  20. [08:27:40] qmisato: anyway -- we can only point to the scenes and say, "woah! this predicted (insert x event here) in q! isn't that neat?" because we've already seen q, so it got me thinking, what if all kaji's scenes are prescient in nature, except we wouldn't be the wiser, as we haven't seen final?
  21. [08:28:21] qritsuko: it sounds better than any other predictive tool we might have
  22. [08:31:07] qmisato: the lunch scene, the garden scene, and the dinner date are all scenes that i began to view in a "what if this is predicting something about final" lens, especially w the growing realization that anno's probably Not Making Things up as he goes along (see the asumari rollerblading pic circa 2010, yadda yadda yadda)
  23. [08:31:15] qmisato: so first -- the lunch scene
  24. [08:31:27] qmisato: i might be russian, but not rushingi'm dead
  25. [08:32:32] qritsuko: hey! you can't die yet! you have to tell me this theory!
  26. [08:32:59] qmisato: god.... another cautionary word, what i'm about to type will sound Outlandish, but hear me out
  27. [08:38:06] qmisato: so, misato's wearing her hair in a bun, right? misato only has Two Hairstyles that we've seen -- standard down and high ponytail, but in this scene she's wearing her hair in a /bun/. which is evocative of the bun misato's sports in q - the two flyaways framing her face and all. again i'll stress, under normal circumstances this is something i would disregard, but there's a few more things that bug me about this whole scene in particular
  28. [08:38:56] qritsuko: yeah, it's something that's made me wonder the few times i've watched 2.0, re: the hairstyle. i just brushed it off as One Of Those Wacky 2.0 Things
  29. [08:42:12] qmisato: first of all, they couldn't make it more obvious in this scene that they're pitting kaji as misato's One True Flame here. like the oo la la blush is something i will forever hate because i personally think it's ooc of misato, but i understand that they don't have time to write in hours worth of proper dynamic between the two amidst All That Ain't Shitness that is the rest of 2.0's writing. so okay. kaji comments that
  30. [08:45:34] qmisato: misato is going overboard burdening herself with all the responsibilities that come with her position, and misato makes a comment along the lines of 'i don't have time for anything else'. which again, reminds me of q!misato, and how much time she's likely had to sacrifice in order to ensure wille doesn't crumble beneath her feet. -- all the meanwhile, kaji is absent from the wunder
  31. [08:45:47] qritsuko: [nodnodnodnod]
  32. [08:46:15] qritsuko: misato really does seem like the heart of wille - one of those cases in which if she went down the whole thing would go down
  33. [08:47:23] qmisato: SECOND, and god know i'm grasping at straws here, but i'm going under the assumption that any change witnessed in 2.0 is deliberate on the parts of anno in co., and serve to signify an eventual change in the overall lore of evangelion going forward
  34. [08:47:36] qmisato: THE LOGO BEHIND THEM
  35. [08:47:39] qritsuko: praying that this is so
  36. [08:47:57] qritsuko: GIVEN 2.0'S PRODUCTION HSITORY I'M VERY UNSURE OF THAT BUT I'M WILLING TO BET ON IT REGARDLESS
  37. [08:49:07] qmisato: (excuse this nonsense + feel free to have a good hearty laugh in my face for this one)
  38. [08:49:27] qmisato: the logo animation is basically a green leaf.... penetrating a red circle..... i just.....
  39. [08:49:50] qritsuko: opens up mpc
  40. [08:49:51] qmisato: i just can't get the word "conception" out of my head tbh
  41. [08:50:44] qmisato: not only that (i am 85% sure of the following as i havn't watched 2.0 in a while and i'm going off the dome for this one) the garden scene happens right after this one
  42. [08:51:58] qmisato: (the garden scene is a whole 'nother monster i'll get into later but) the garden -- ESPECIALLY the sheer upgrade in 2.0 = new life like........
  43. [08:52:14] qritsuko: god they're pushing this so hard aren't they
  44. [08:52:28] qritsuko: I STILL CAN'T GET OVER THAT ONE STANZA FROM THE 3.0 END SONG
  45. [08:53:21] qritsuko: [watching 2.0] god this animation is beautiful
  46. [fanservice scene starts] why
  47. [08:54:31] qmisato: and i was always wondering, why is kaji's garden so fucking massive in 2.0? why change his humble little patch from the original series? why? how can he even manage a garden this large while juggling all the other spyshit he does? esp. considering he's been away from japan for two years, and likely has only been living in japan for a few weeks at most? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE LOGICALLY, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT
  48. [08:56:16] qmisato: so it got me thinking, maybe it's supposed to signify a thematic shift -- and iirc we've talked about this before, how kaji's garden may signify fertility as opposed to barrenness, new life as opposed to infecundity
  49. [08:57:20] qmisato: how much of an embarrassment am i rn, please let me know
  50. [08:57:36] qritsuko: i'm sorry i need a moment. i can't stop laughing at all of this symbolism just to say that kaji is a fertile breeder and misato is going to have a kid
  51. [08:57:41] qritsuko: YOU'RE NOT EMBARRASSING
  52. [08:57:44] qritsuko: studio khara is embarrassing
  53. [08:57:58] qmisato: [11:57] qritsuko:
  54.  
  55. <<< studio khara is embarrassingTHEY REALLY ARE
  56. [08:58:08] qritsuko: anyway i'm watching the relevant scenes now
  57. [08:58:23] qritsuko: how can he even manage a garden this large while juggling all the other spyshit he does? esp. considering he's been away from japan for two years, and likely has only been living in japanRIGHT?? THIS ALWAYS BOTHERED ME LIKE
  58. [08:58:24] qmisato: please tell me if you think i'm going infinity and beyond with my assumptions /please/
  59. [08:58:35] qmisato: your input is so important
  60. [08:59:09] qmisato: (and i haven't even touched on my most ludicrous-sounding interpretation yet)
  61. [08:59:53] qmisato: okay, lunch scene and garden scene down -- all that's left is the dinner scene w kaji and misato
  62. [09:00:00] qritsuko: right
  63. [09:00:51 | Edited 09:00:56] qritsuko: it does look like a green leaf coring the apple. i'm not sure about how much it looks like 'penetration', but. especially given the entire concept of apple as original sin - i mean, there's a Reason in rebuild that they changed nerv's logo to include the apple
  64. [09:02:20] qmisato: first and foremost, i did my research and found that the song that's playing the the backdrop of misato and kaji's conversation is called season of love; it's a cute little oldtimey song and it's lyrics are definitely supposed to evoke kaji and misato's romance (the blue shirt bits) -- you can read the lyrics here http://www.animelyrics.com/anime/eva/koinokisetsu.htm
  65. [09:02:58] qritsuko: thank you!
  66. [09:03:09] qritsuko: >coffee as bright as the night sky
  67. IM LAUGHING C-CALM DOWN KAJI
  68. [09:03:26] qritsuko: ah yes, the night sky ... the ocean ... the coffee ...
  69. [09:03:50] qritsuko: also: "Love, this is my love, Dyeing the skies, setting it on fire" sounds a lot like what shinji ends up doing at the end of 2.0 and 3.0
  70. [09:04:05] qmisato: so, the precept of this entire conversation is "responsibility", and more specifically, how kaji and misato can't afford to act selfishly in light of the kids
  71. [09:04:11] qritsuko: yes
  72. [09:04:15] qritsuko: ( sorry for the asides )
  73. [09:04:47] qmisato: living under the conditions that they're living in, all the burdens they've been forced to carry
  74. [09:04:52] qritsuko: qritsuko nods
  75. [09:05:39] qritsuko: there's also that entire theme in 2.0 about how love makes you act selflessly for others - e.g. ritsuko and misato's conversation
  76. [09:06:17] qmisato: which again can be easily applied to q!misato's situation in q -- not simply w the aim of protecting the world -- but if this hunch holds water, truly, literally /protecting a child/
  77. [09:06:55] qritsuko: [nodnodnod]
  78. [09:07:01] qritsuko: Q for Quickening indeed
  79. [09:08:35] qmisato: ok.... here it comes... i will fully disclose to you rn that the next portion of my "hunch" isn't even halfway legitimate as the others have been (and that's me being generous), it's just Ida Desperately Trying to See Things Where They Probably Don't Exist(tm)
  80. [09:08:42] qmisato: get ready to clutch your sides
  81. [09:09:05] qritsuko: trust me, nothing could get me to clutch my sides more than 2.0's existence
  82. [09:09:15] qmisato: (and hold on a sec while i try to search for the gif i'll be referring to)
  83. [09:11:47] qmisato: ok, it's been located
  84. [09:12:18] qritsuko: i am prepared to blow my new year's crackers and horns at your epiphany
  85. [09:14:16] qmisato: in a pathetic attempt to claim some shred of credence to the shit that is about to leave my fingertips, i will say that time and time again, anno and co. have positioned objects+bodies in such a way to imply something material -- usually a theme, if nge is any indicator
  86. [09:14:45] qmisato: http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luolm1scui1qbuuz3o1_500.gif THIS CUT
  87. [09:14:55] qritsuko: opens
  88. [09:15:04] qritsuko: yes, kaji examing misato's, ahem, assets
  89. [09:15:12] qmisato: (i had to find this gif by searching "misato dat ass" and that is So Sad)
  90. [09:15:20] qritsuko: Why is the eva fandom so bad
  91. [09:15:30] qmisato: asking myself that questions everyday
  92. [09:18:17] qmisato: yes, kaji examing misato's, ahem, assetsit's not even that. i don't know about everyone else, but the way they animated misato reaching for her phone here is very... odd, for lack of a better word. i can think of 100 other ways they could have animated this cut -- even if they wanted to go for titillation (which i will say with confidence, this scene is not titillating at all)
  93. [09:18:45] qritsuko: hm?
  94. [09:19:52] qritsuko: i'm rewatching the scene now
  95. [09:20:35] qmisato: so i really looked at misato's body position here, her silhouette. and if i really wanted to make a stretch -- which i am definitely doing, right this very moment -- i would say her silhouette is visually evocative of a pregnant woman lying down
  96. [09:21:06] qmisato: the peak of her hair being the "breasts"
  97. [09:21:16] qritsuko: hm
  98. [09:21:30] qritsuko: [looks again]
  99. [09:21:34] qmisato: kaji's eyes going for the ass, yes, but also the "stomach"
  100. [09:21:44] qritsuko: that's ... true
  101. [09:21:54] qritsuko: i can certainly see that
  102. [09:22:09] qmisato: and i know how much anno loves Breast Imagery in eoe
  103. [09:22:10] qritsuko: i assumed that they were emphasising her rear in studio khara's typical manner of not knowing when to stop fanservice
  104. [09:22:42] qritsuko: i've ... unfortunately seen some rather Titillated Comments regarding this scene
  105. [09:22:45] qritsuko: however
  106. [09:22:48] qmisato: [12:22] qritsuko:
  107.  
  108. <<< i assumed that they were emphasising her rear in studio khara's typical manner of not knowing when to stop fanservicei fully believe that as well, but in this case i would say they might have wanted to knock out two birds with one stone here
  109. [09:22:59] qritsuko: that's definitely accurate
  110. [09:23:18] qritsuko: alone, this wouldn't be much at all,
  111. [09:23:18] qmisato: with regards to eoe, the playground = breasts, etc
  112. [09:23:33] qritsuko: but coupled (heh) with everything else, i can see what you mean
  113. [09:23:51] qmisato: again, this is totally the least legitimate portion of my hunch
  114. [09:24:27] qritsuko: even if this turns out to simply be a visual fluke - the rest of the analysis holds ridiculous weight
  115. [09:25:08] qmisato: takes a deep breath, hopes i didn't embarrass myself beyond repair
  116. [09:25:22] qritsuko: oh boy
  117. [09:25:36] qritsuko: if it's any consolation you're not embarrassing yourself at all yet - it takes sense so far to me
  118. [09:26:26] qmisato: it's all i have (admittingly, not much at all, discounting your cain/abel theory)
  119. [09:27:06] qritsuko: well then
  120. [09:27:26] qritsuko: if anything this is only adding fuel to my fire of KAJI AND MISATO'S KID IS GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL IN 3.0+1.0
  121. [09:27:32] qmisato: you did mention you wrote a 4k theory on this subject, and i'm chinhanding v hard
  122. [09:27:48] qritsuko: i did, and i can't find it
  123. [09:28:01] qritsuko: it was mostly expanding on the cain/abel stuf fand looking at 3.0
  124. [09:28:04] qritsuko: for example
  125. [09:28:17] qritsuko: that giant thing in the background of the fourth impact? the holy grail?
  126. [09:28:30] qritsuko: that's ... one of the most recognisable symbols of fertility
  127. [09:28:38] qmisato: [12:28] qritsuko:
  128.  
  129. <<< that giant thing in the background of the fourth impact? the holy grail?? what scene?
  130. [09:28:52] qritsuko: one moment
  131. [09:29:06] qritsuko: time to hUNT IT DOWN
  132. [09:29:11] qmisato: GODSPEED
  133. [09:30:42] qritsuko: god lord but unit 13's design is so gorgeous
  134. [09:30:45] qritsuko: good*
  135. [09:30:52] qritsuko: sorry, i'm rewatching the ending to get the pictures
  136. [09:31:07] qmisato: the evas really received an upgrade
  137. [09:31:23] *** qritsuko sent holy-grail-00001.png holy-grail-00001.png ***
  138. [09:31:28] qritsuko: it's at 1:27:08 in my copy
  139. [09:31:38] qritsuko: right after mari ejects shinji
  140. [09:32:20] qmisato: got it
  141. [09:32:33] qmisato: oh wow, i never looked at it in that matter
  142. [09:32:37] qmisato: it is a holy grail
  143. [09:32:40] qritsuko: it is
  144. [09:32:56] qmisato: incredible
  145. [09:33:37] qritsuko: the quest for the holy grail - sounds a lot like what the earth is going through as of 3.0
  146. [09:33:49] qritsuko: the lack of life everywhere, deserted, barren - kaworu looking at the destroyed garden
  147. [09:33:57] qritsuko: the impact, meant to propagate life
  148. [09:34:13] qmisato: nods
  149. [09:35:47] qritsuko: since the aaa wunder is the ship of hope, and wille the will to live, so to speak, how better to cement the idea of hope in human life (in opposition to nerv-seele's attempt at timeless immortality) than with a human child?
  150. [09:36:20] qritsuko: i think that the holy grail structure itself is going to play a role in 3.0+1.0 in some manner
  151. [09:36:36] qmisato: i would bet on it, now that i actually know it exists
  152. [09:36:45] qritsuko: it was apparently created in the fourth impact and right now is simply sitting there
  153. [09:36:50] qmisato: [12:35] qritsuko:
  154.  
  155. <<< since the aaa wunder is the ship of hope, and wille the will to live, so to speak, how better to cement the idea of hope in human life (in opposition to nerv-seele's attempt at timeless immortality) than with a human child?exactly
  156. [09:37:06] qritsuko: this last one's grasping at starws a bit, but
  157. [09:37:30] qritsuko: there's this whole point about misato doing things that she "shouldn't", that are unthinkable, but that cause others to refer to her actions as hopeful once they succeed
  158. [09:37:45] qritsuko: her bringing to term and rearing a child post-near-third-impact would certainly qualify
  159. [09:38:01] qritsuko: straws*
  160. [09:38:43] qmisato: [12:37] qritsuko:
  161.  
  162. <<< there's this whole point about misato doing things that she "shouldn't", that are unthinkable, but that cause others to refer to her actions as hopeful once they succeed
  163. her bringing to term and rearing a child post-near-third-impact would certainly qualifyOH.... OH MAN
  164. [09:38:51] qmisato: YES
  165. [09:39:44] qmisato: "she's brazen as you get... the captain's even more interesting than kaji described" indeed
  166. [09:40:07] qritsuko: just imagine misato's kid being taken as a symbol of hope for everyone of wille (motherhood Qualifying misato as capable of wille leadership? anno please give it to me)
  167. [09:40:15] qritsuko: and, you know, the lyrics to the ending song -
  168. [09:41:58] qritsuko: the first two lines are something like "we watched the flowers bloom in autumn but you said it was too early" ( i can't remember the exact lines ) reminds me of what they might have told misato, perhaps what kaji might have told misato, that it would be dangerous to do so after the near third impact
  169. [09:42:11] qritsuko: autumn, in particular, is the thematic season of Things Getting Worse
  170. [09:42:38] qritsuko: "You were disappointed, full of regret," etc.
  171. [09:43:02] qmisato: [12:42] qritsuko:
  172.  
  173. <<< autumn, in particular, is the thematic season of Things Getting Worsealso, just in general, it appears to be that the seasons have been getting colder (it looks to be winter in q), so autumn quite literally could have returned
  174. [09:43:20] qritsuko: that's true
  175. [09:43:32] qritsuko: i also realise about the line "everybody finds love in the end"
  176. [09:43:42] qritsuko: that doesn't necessarily mean that everyone is going to find a soulmate
  177. [09:43:57] qritsuko: "in the end" might mean - death, or the apocalypse, or instrumentality
  178. [09:44:09] qmisato: yes
  179. [09:44:22] qmisato: also, this is actually bringing to mind another part of q that might be relevant
  180. [09:45:47] qmisato: bc one of my bigger gripes with the writing of q was the fact that they wrote wille into be a fairly new undertaking for misato -- the crew was recently gathered + inexperienced, they've never even had the wunder in flight before
  181. [09:45:52] qmisato: but now i realize
  182. [09:47:50] qmisato: that /had/ to be the case, if misato really does have a kid. because it would be so improbable (not impossible, just a difficult pill to swallow for a general audience) that misato was working on wille while pregnant, or immediately after childbirth, when the child is a few weeks to a few years old even
  183. [09:48:29] qmisato: it's easier for them to just have wille be a new thing that they just happened to jumpstart right as shinji stumbles his way back into their lives' again
  184. [09:49:13] qritsuko: >that they just happened to jumpstart
  185. i already took this as, 3.0 picked up 14 years later Because wille's first real mission was to get shinji out of orbit so that they could have an engine for the aaa wunder
  186. [09:49:27 | Edited 09:49:31] qritsuko: i never considered it some sort of strange coincidence
  187. [09:49:45] qmisato: true
  188. [09:50:06 | Edited 09:51:21] qritsuko: but yes, the reason that misato waited all these years to start up wille would make sense given misato having a child
  189. [09:53:03] qmisato: and to make a few more strides, the generational shift the cast undergoes, wherein misato takes on a role that was originally gendo's (which is propagated even further with her visual upgrade), gendo taking on a role that was originally seele's (propogated by the aforementioned reasons), ritsuko --> fuyutsuki, asuka --> misato, so on and so forth
  190. [09:53:16] qritsuko: right right right
  191. [09:53:28] qmisato: logic simply dictates that kaji took a role that was originally yui's
  192. [09:53:36] qritsuko: g OD FUCK ign
  193. [09:54:11] qmisato: which follows that a child might be involved, since the cornerstone of gendo and yui's relationship /is/ an offspring
  194. [09:54:24] qritsuko: [fans self] we're getting in deep here
  195. [09:54:45] qmisato: 2goddamndeep3.0+1.0me
  196. [09:54:48] qritsuko: misato as gendo having Child Difficulties
  197. [09:55:02] qmisato: [12:54] qritsuko:
  198.  
  199. <<< misato as gendo having Child DifficultiesI NEED THIS
  200. [09:55:43] qritsuko: a thought: has it been absolutely confirmed that kaji is alive in 3.0?
  201. [09:56:12] qmisato: i take koji takao's line to be a confirmation of that, yes
  202. [09:56:23] qmisato: you don't talk about a deceased person like that
  203. [09:57:10] qmisato: even one that is long passed
  204. [09:57:58] qritsuko: that's true
  205. [09:58:14] qritsuko: i certainly hope he's alive
  206. [09:58:25] qritsuko: i was just thinking regarding yui parallels
  207. [09:59:03] qmisato: and iirc, in the q filmbook that was released in q screenings (where all those character sheets come from) koji is listed as "kaji's friend"
  208. [09:59:33] qmisato: ofc, i read this on some site long ago, so i can't attest to its legitimacy
  209. [10:00:21] qritsuko: that sounds about accuraet
  210. [10:00:25] qritsuko: accurate**
  211. [10:00:29] qritsuko: hm
  212. [10:01:02] qritsuko: imagine wille having an inside joke that misato is truly the commander of everything ... except her own child
  213. [10:01:18] qmisato: and i like the idea of kaji being the one to provide all these recruits for wille in the first place, seeing as his web of connections is wholly comprehensive
  214. [10:01:41] qmisato: [13:00] qritsuko:
  215.  
  216. <<< imagine wille having an inside joke that misato is truly the commander of everything ... except her own childPUSH ME DOWN A FLIGHT OF STAIRS
  217. [10:02:17] qmisato: all things considered at this point + in light of this conversation, i can firmly say with all due conviction that the chances of this kid being A Thing in 3.0+1.0 are 50-70%
  218. [10:03:02] qritsuko: [kaji sitting in an important meeting about the future of wille] [over the intercom] "kaji, your presence is requested immediately in room xx" [kaji standing up] "sorry, this is an emergency, i'll be right back." [kaji arrives to find misato and the child arguing over what to have for dinner]
  219. [10:05:16] qmisato: kaji and misato sitting in for an important meeting concerning the future of wille, except that the babysitter backed out last minute, so in the midst of all these anal-retentive executives and tactical directors there's this little kid sipping on a plastic juice box and loudly proclaiming that they're bored every five minutes
  220. [10:05:42] qritsuko: @god please give me kaji and misato having a kid in 3.0+1.0
  221. [10:06:08] qmisato: i need this and canon ritsumaya to happen and i might forgive anno for all his past transgressions
  222. [10:06:47] qritsuko: misato spontaneously leaving ritsuko In Charge of the kid one day. ritsuko has no idea how to deal with kids. ritsuko and the kid eye one another in silence for five minutes. ritsuko ends up locked in the bathroom urgently calling maya to come to her rescue
  223. [10:09:30] qmisato: ritsuko knows that kaji is a huge health nut and firmly sets rules that his kid can only dine on the most organic, natural foods available for them -- which means absolutely no sweets after dinner - and has to starve off urgent pleas from the kid, complete with shirt tugging and loud whining. ritsuko eventually gives in and lets the kid have the whole ice cream tub -- eventually it becomes their little secret
  224. [10:11:01] qritsuko: kaji goes hard af on parenting. kaji literally snapping the coffee table under the weight of "parenting 101" books. meanwhile misato "do a barrel roll even though nothing is attaching me to the ground" katsuragi considers it a good day if she can take the kid up to the roof of the aaa wunder and almost fall off in the middle of a flight
  225. [10:11:59] qmisato: kaji goes so hard on parenting because he remembers what it was like taking care of his little brother when his parents weren't home + on the streets after they passed tho
  226. [10:13:20] qritsuko: misato and the child having a major squabble and them yelling "AS IF YOU CARE ABOUT ME. YOU'RE NEVER AROUND. ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS WORK EVEN THOUGH YOU ACT LIKE YOU'RE STILL A KID" and misato just flashbacking to her own father
  227. [10:13:41] qmisato: every time his kid says "i'm hungry" -- even in jest -- is enough to make him physically feel sick to his stomach
  228. [10:14:04] qmisato: I... I JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING
  229. [10:14:09] qmisato: GOOD GOD
  230. [10:14:12] qmisato: WAIT A SEC
  231. [10:14:12] qritsuko: ?
  232. [10:14:15] qritsuko: OH NO
  233. [10:14:16] qritsuko: I'M
  234. [10:14:55] qmisato: http://static.zerochan.net/Katsuragi.Misato.full.1341018.jpg WHERE IS HER CROSS NECKLACE
  235. [10:15:02] qmisato: SHE DOESN'T HAVE IT
  236. [10:15:09] qmisato: BECAUSE SHE GAVE IT TO HER KID
  237. [10:15:15] qritsuko: IDA YOU FUCKER
  238. [10:15:17] qmisato: OMG
  239. [10:15:39] qritsuko: 3.0+1.0 MISATO SACRIFICES HERSELF FOR THE KID IN A MANNER THAT MANAGES TO EVOKE NOT ONLY EOE BUT ALSO HER OWN FATHER
  240. [10:15:42] qmisato: i'm dOne with myself
  241. [10:16:23] qritsuko: MEANWHILE SELFISH SHINJI CRYING AT THE KID'S EXISTENCE BECAUSE YET AGAIN HE'S BEEN REPLACED IN HIS "PARENT'S" AFFECTIONS
  242. [10:16:44] qmisato: this child is literally walking around wearing misato's necklace and that's why misato isn't wearing it in q, no one can convince me otherwise
  243. [10:17:11] qmisato: i see you anno, you've been seent
  244. [10:17:37] qritsuko: my greatest fear: 3.0+1.0 will be mediocre
  245. [10:17:44] qritsuko: THERE ARE SO MNAY GREAT PLACES THAT THIS COULD GO
  246. [10:18:05 | Edited 10:18:11] qmisato: JUST GIVE US FREE REIGN ON THE SCRIPT, ANNO, YOU WON'T REGRET IT
  247. [10:18:09] qritsuko: honestly though there's far too much for 3.0+1.0 to cover adequately
  248. [10:18:34] qmisato: ^that's my biggest fear
  249. [10:18:40] qmisato: it keeps me up at night
  250. [10:19:50] qritsuko: >misato and kaji kid
  251. >instrumentality
  252. >rei q
  253. >four adams
  254. >yui/rei in unit 01
  255. >shinji finally getting some development? a goat can dream
  256. >maybe some reference to the yui/mari thing
  257. >shinji as a trigger?
  258. ??????????????????????????????????????
  259. [10:19:55] qmisato: i don't know if i have enough faith in anno's capabilities to trust that he can pull everything off
  260. [10:20:19] qritsuko: if he intends to go with instrumentality again
  261. [10:20:30] qritsuko: i don't see how he'll have time
  262. [10:20:55] qmisato: maybe there's no instrumentality. maybe the preview was meant to misled. god i just Can't See It All Happening
  263. [10:21:19] qritsuko: i will laugh my ass if he pulls a death and rebirth and cuts off right after some key character's death
  264. [10:21:42] qritsuko: "TUNE IN, IN FIVE YEARS FOR ... EVANGELION 5.0"
  265. [10:22:13] qmisato: LMAO I WILL EJECT MYSELF FROM THIS FANDOM SO HARD, ANNO YOU WILL NEVER SEE MY FACE AGAIN
  266. [10:22:37] qritsuko: >implying you can get off the ride
  267. [10:22:42] qmisato: "hey evangelion 5.0 is coming out in two weeks!!" "what? what's that? i don't give a fuck"
  268. [10:22:54] qritsuko: you say as you return home to your literal misato shrine
  269. [10:23:05] qmisato: (i would watch it anyway you know i would)
  270. [10:23:10] qritsuko: but of course
  271. [10:23:22] qritsuko: besides there's so much left to cover in the material we have at the moment
  272. [10:23:36] qritsuko: it's not as if 3.0+1.0 is going to explain everything anyway
  273. [10:23:43] qritsuko: i'm completely hedging on another nge2 of sorts
  274. [10:23:53] qritsuko: by which i mean Key Things being explained after the fact in supplemental material
  275. [10:24:02] qmisato: yes
  276. [10:24:32] qmisato: the suspense is like a slow poison, it's eating my up inside
  277. [10:24:37] qmisato: me*
  278. [10:25:40] qmisato: tbh i just want to know if misato is a mom. i don't care about anything else at this point. i'm numb. i just want to see a lil kidlet
  279. [10:26:14] qritsuko: misato being a mother and kaji being a househusband warms my bitter heart
  280. [10:26:56] qmisato: even if their actual dynamic is strained in final, that's okay too
  281. [10:27:09] qmisato: as long as it's executed correctly
  282. [10:27:23] qritsuko: relationships in evangelion are always like that
  283. [10:27:44] qritsuko: but
  284. [10:27:56] qritsuko: i only want to see them having actual issues if, you know, the film has room to address that
  285. [10:29:25] qmisato: i'm sure that if there is a kid, there is definitely going to be some resentment clauses attached that are evocative of dr. katsuragi+gendo -- why else would they have misato taking gendo's attributes in the very first place
  286. [10:29:34] qritsuko: kaji and misato having some relationship troubles would make sense given the stress of operating wille
  287. [10:29:43] qritsuko: exactly
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