[05:06] 6*6Isaac` 6 frowns at you
[05:06] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Yes?
[05:07] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 d00d. what the hell is going on with you? are you not sleeping?
[05:07] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 I'm doing just fine, actually.
[05:08] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 except now you're picking fights with sera again and trying to retcon a scene without talking to me too?
[05:08] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Despite being accused of being passive aggressive, stubborn, very stubborn, picking fights, and of simple OOC errors somehow being massive IC issues that have to be resolved IC instead of 'ok d00d, you used another appearance, no big deal'
[05:09] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 That's the simple, fair solution, and what I'm getting is 'you reap what you sow, deal with the consequences' despite this clearly being an OOC mistake.
[05:09] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 So yeah. I've said, repeatedly at this point, I'll wait to talk to Auto. Frankly at this point given how much I've had to hear about how 'snowflakey' our characters are, I don't know if I even want to play them.
[05:10] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 you're the only one who's used that term.
[05:10] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 And when I protest that something's being inserted into our joint backstory without consulting us, I'm told off about how we're snowflakes and need consequences.
[05:10] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 I haven't used it, that's for sure
[05:10] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Would you like to read my logs then?
[05:10] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Because it was used, and not pleasantly.
[05:10] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 by ... you? or urd.
[05:10] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 d00d.
[05:10] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 By Sera.
[05:10] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 I used it the other night as a -joke-.;
[05:10] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 In this case, it was used to insult our backstory/history in general.
[05:10] 6*6Isaac` 6 considers you for a long moment
[05:11] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Specifically pointing out 'how much shit' we had, etc.
[05:11] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 you're defensive and i don't understand why
[05:11] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Sera threatened to show auto all my fucking logs. I said go ahead, I have them also.
[05:11] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 I am defensive because I've got someone consistently telling me I'm the problem
[05:11] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 no matter what I say, or do, I'm the problem.
[05:12] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Again, if you want to see where this conversation went downhill, I have today's conversation with sera.
[05:12] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 So before you say I 'picked a fight with her'
[05:12] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 please, read it.
[05:12] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 sera and I are both parents. to us? it feels like we said, "Okay, how about this" and you're sort of clinging to the other thing and not really wanting to flex or compromise.
[05:12] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 http://pastebin.com/DDSRM7id
[05:12] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Read it.
[05:12] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 I'm seeing the logs.
[05:13] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 I have only said, I believe -three times- now, to you and to her, that specific parts of the backstory are fine to edit out. We established the nuke and the shield and all that shit would not work with your setting.
[05:13] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 I pointed out, CORRECTLY, that there were other issues to worry about. Not things that can't be solved, but things that we need to look at. I talked to ben about it and Auto, and both agreed.
[05:13] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 yes. you keep saying that. but when we suggest changes, you tell us we're not listening and that they won't work
[05:13] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 So you SAY you can change but you refuse to change and it's confusing to us
[05:13] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Shit like 'ok, do we say our chars still dealt with a group of supernaturals that were going cross-venue and communicating and shit, or is that unacceptable'? stuff like that.
[05:14] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Thing is I'm not getting suggested changes, I'm getting Sera trying to insert into our backstory that we're being hunted by the technocracy actively
[05:14] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 when that's literally the opposite of what we'd said, and she'd not suggesting it, she's insisting on it.
[05:14] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 *She's
[05:14] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 um
[05:15] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 The technocracy thinks we're -dead-. That is firmly the core premise of our backstory. If we were actively being hunted, we'd be dead, these would not be our characters.
[05:15] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 d00d. you really don't read what people say or type
[05:15] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 You don't listen
[05:15] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 I'm not going to argue with you
[05:15] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 It's...right there. In the log.
[05:15] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 yes, and you are NOT listening to us.
[05:15] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 About -what-?
[05:16] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 First. Sera did not say you are hunted and did not try to insert that. She said it COULD happen in the future if the St (Auto) chose. But that it's not guaranteed at this moment.
[05:16] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 She did not insert. She made a point
[05:16] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 I tried to point out why it was unlikely, and she derided it
[05:17] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 and she only made it a 'suggestion' after I pointed out it was not our idea.
[05:17] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 she tried to say it was, at first.
[05:17] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 Because you faked yoru death. Fine. but she has a point.
[05:17] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 STOP
[05:17] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 she has. A POINT. even faking your deaths isn't 100% full proof. to say otherwise takes away power from the ST.
[05:18] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Now it's you not listening to me. I said, -in that log-, that I understand Auto has the authority and right as an ST to say 'yeah they figured it out man and they're after you'
[05:19] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 But there's a big difference between him saying that after reviewing shit, and Sera simply inserting it into the story like it's a fact of life, as if it was something we had always had there.
[05:19] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 I refuse to talk to you if you're going to get rude
[05:19] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 I'll put your ass on ignore
[05:20] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 Either you stay calm and talk and listen or this is done
[05:21] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 I'm more than willing to be calm and listen. Would you like to see the section of logs where Sera says that us being hunted was already part of our backstory?
[05:21] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Because that was the reason I got confused/started asking about it, and that caused her to get very upset with me.
[05:22] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 okay. point one. ST's punish players for OOC mistakes all the time. it's part of play. It's no big deal
[05:22] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 Point 2. Auto is a volunteer. no one pays him. If you have to 'stand in line" to talk to him, you wait your turn and you remain *grateful* that he is doing this at all
[05:23] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 ...OK, at what point did I say I wasn't grateful to Auto?
[05:23] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Hell, where did I say I was upset about standing line and waiting? All I've said this entire time is he should delegate, which he, you, and everyone involved agrees with.
[05:23] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 It wasn't an insult nor was it taken that way.
[05:23] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 HEY You wanted me to read logs.
[05:23] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 I'm reading lots.
[05:23] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 So now you get to deal with it
[05:24] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 As am I, I don't see 'standing in line' anywhere in the logs.
[05:24] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 at least not with my convo with sera, if its from another log, I'll need to know where/when to get the context.
[05:24] 6«5(14 Isaac` 5)6» 14 A bad memory is not the same as a clear conscience. and you aren't the only one with logs
[05:25] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 So are you going to tell me when, where, and what the context was?
[05:25] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 I have -nothing- to be ashamed of in my logs, I've already said all logs can be submitted to Auto, I have zero issue with that.
[05:26] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 I'm not the one who's been threatening to -show- logs.
[05:27] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 Whole reason that came up was my saying that things were out of hand and I was going to talk to Auto later, and Sera saying that she would 'show him all my logs' and construe shit that I said to be insulting to him. <specifically, where I said that I felt like ben and I were encouraged to go IC, even though I said afterwards quite clearly that this was not a command, auto was not -there- at that time,6...
[05:27] 6«5(14 Dimitrie_Dragomir 5)6»14 6... he'd just temp-approved us and encouraged us to go IC.