[5:22:02 PM] *** Pwnoz0r added Stapo ***
[5:22:19 PM] *** Pwnoz0r added thevisad ***
[5:22:44 PM] Pwnoz0r: settle this with guns or like gentlemen?
[5:22:52 PM] thevisad: I vote for guns
[5:22:56 PM | Removed 5:28:52 PM] Stapo: This message has been removed.
[5:22:57 PM | Removed 5:28:49 PM] Stapo: This message has been removed.
[5:23:02 PM] thevisad: I grew up in texas and have lots
[5:23:08 PM] Stapo: of fingers?
[5:23:11 PM] thevisad: yes!
[5:23:44 PM] thevisad: So i am releasing support of the latest map when i get home and have a chance to sort things out
[5:25:21 PM] thevisad: any objections?  You have 5 seconds to reply or I will consider your silence to be in agreement of me releasing it... even if you disagree, not much you can say.
[5:25:35 PM] KinGHuNT: list then me \
[5:25:44 PM] KinGHuNT: this is not acceptable
[5:25:48 PM] KinGHuNT: nor it is a joke
[5:26:11 PM] KinGHuNT: so .. unless we speak seriously here
[5:26:14 PM] KinGHuNT: or i am out
[5:26:20 PM] thevisad: Even if this is considered to be your 'proprietary code' then any release would be considered to be an emulator and under international code, emulators are not illegal
[5:26:36 PM] KinGHuNT: brother
[5:26:53 PM] KinGHuNT: wait for the public release
[5:26:58 PM] thevisad: however, unless you created this with a license of VBS2 full seat, you are not entitiles to sell or hold someone accountable for utilizing your work
[5:27:15 PM] KinGHuNT: this conv. is over
[5:27:32 PM] KinGHuNT: remmber we asked nicely
[5:27:35 PM] KinGHuNT: bye
[5:27:42 PM] thevisad: then work with us to create a public release rather then abuse the current developers who are providing the majority of the private server their code
[5:27:48 PM] Pwnoz0r: king, where are you from btw?
[5:27:51 PM] Pwnoz0r: which country?
[5:28:16 PM] Pwnoz0r: good luck getting US jurisdiction over a case that wont be approved in the courts
[5:28:27 PM] thevisad: meh, childish behaviour when he knows that he has no grounds to stand on
[5:28:55 PM] KinGHuNT: you calling me that
[5:29:00 PM] thevisad: childish?
[5:29:01 PM] thevisad: yes
[5:29:07 PM] thevisad: you are childish
[5:29:10 PM] KinGHuNT: and apperantly you have no clue what u are talkng about
[5:29:12 PM] KinGHuNT: so ..
[5:29:15 PM] thevisad: really?
[5:29:20 PM] thevisad: tell me sir
[5:29:21 PM] KinGHuNT: this coversation is going no where
[5:29:26 PM] thevisad: what is the ID on your HASP key?
[5:29:53 PM] thevisad: should be a 5 digit identification number which identifies what type of VBS2 seat holder you are
[5:30:34 PM] thevisad: this conversation is going no where because you choose to be childish and run away from a perfectly reasonable conversation
[5:31:30 PM] KinGHuNT: this is the last time i ask you to up the level of this conversation
[5:31:30 PM] thevisad: unless you can provide your HASP license ID (this does not personally identify you at all, simply states you are a personal, commercial, army code owner) then you cannot tell us to not release code
[5:31:38 PM] thevisad: up the level of what?
[5:31:53 PM] thevisad: I am trying to identify your legal rights to a piece of code you state you have the rights to sue for
[5:32:01 PM] thevisad: you are the one that has indicated that you will sue... not us
[5:32:33 PM] thevisad: we provide support to the public, nless you can give us a legal standing to not do so, we will release support
[5:32:45 PM] KinGHuNT: ok .. you basicly have no clue what are u talking about .
[5:32:48 PM] KinGHuNT: try to be funny
[5:32:52 PM] KinGHuNT: and we will act
[5:32:53 PM] thevisad: Actually ues I do
[5:33:00 PM] KinGHuNT: this conversation is over
[5:33:04 PM] thevisad: I am a legal owner of VBS2
[5:33:07 PM] thevisad: I have a HASP key
[5:33:31 PM] thevisad: I have also studied game law and understand the requirements behind supporting your work
[5:33:52 PM] thevisad: I have been developing games for several years and understnad what is and is not illegal regarding several aspects
[5:34:32 PM] thevisad: I am asking you to provide something which entitles you to threaten someone, if you cannot do so, then we will proceed
[5:34:50 PM] KinGHuNT: LOL
[5:35:13 PM] thevisad: your lack o even continue a conversation, attempt to provide this or even make an effort to continue this discussion is evident of the fact that you sir, do not understand what your talking about
[5:35:19 PM] Martin:
Hello guys, I am Martin the creator of Taviana Island and Origins Mod, the full copyright holder along with Kinghunt. Taviana with Sector B island is currently only made availabe for Origins mod, not any other mods.
[5:35:51 PM] thevisad: Good evening Martin nice to speak with you sir :)
[5:36:01 PM | Edited 5:36:06 PM] Pwnoz0r: the man speaks more then skype emotes!
[5:36:13 PM] Martin: Ok, lets get to the point
[5:36:37 PM] thevisad: Exactly, enough of the size comparisons ehre
[5:37:00 PM] KinGHuNT: there is no point .
[5:37:12 PM] KinGHuNT: if you guys dont wait for the official release
[5:37:13 PM] Martin: Right now we are not allowinng anyone to use anny version of Taviana with Sector B in their mod.
[5:37:19 PM] KinGHuNT: then we will have to act ..
[5:37:21 PM] KinGHuNT: simple
[5:37:21 PM] thevisad: Later tonight, when I verify functionality with the current code I am using and the existing Origins maps, I will be releasing a code that will support it
[5:37:29 PM] KinGHuNT: no more nosence and BS
[5:37:34 PM] thevisad: KingHunt, quiet, adults are speaking now
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[5:38:06 PM] thevisad: At this point, we are not releasing any code, ahem, Origins
[5:38:06 PM] Martin: Ok guys, because of your disresspect I have to leave this conversation. good  bye
[5:38:44 PM] thevisad: Disrepect?  The only disrepect has been from KingHunt
[5:40:06 PM] thevisad: Our code, will not be Origins server side, rather Taviana server side, if the users of the community want to attach your code to that server, there is nothing you or I can do about it
[5:40:23 PM] thevisad: it will simply be Taviana with Origins support
[5:40:56 PM] thevisad: You have provided the downloads to the client files, that is all that is required to support any aspect of any map
[5:41:20 PM] thevisad: as long as the server side can handle the required client files, then it will simply attach and away the server admins go
[5:42:30 PM] thevisad: if however, you would like to work with us, Pwn, Stapo, Crosire and I, who run the current development for the community server package and our own individual packages, then we would be more then willing to back off and release a package that supports your server fully within our packages
[5:43:18 PM] thevisad: We would coincide our releases with your official release therefore providing the best support for all server owners that want to run your software.
[5:43:49 PM] thevisad: Otherwise we will simply have an unofficial release of Origins supported taviana server files
[5:44:11 PM | Edited 5:44:43 PM] Martin: Guys you have no clue what you are talking about, I regret wastig my time speaking to you. Just so you know we are not ehre to harm you or your parents since you are minors
[5:44:19 PM] Martin: Good bye (wave)
[5:45:09 PM] thevisad: I left my moms house long ago...
[5:45:10 PM] thevisad: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wfWqYjqQlvs/URJ1yEjiglI/AAAAAAAAAq8/eMvOwODOo8U/s727/IMG_20130206_102445.jpg
[5:45:22 PM] Stapo: lol
[5:45:51 PM] thevisad: You may feel free to look me up, thevisad and hngamers will give you many many google hits
[5:46:48 PM] thevisad: Then we proceed as planned to release Taviana with Origins support
[5:47:35 PM | Edited 5:47:48 PM] thevisad: then when your code his we will verify we have not missed anything and then officially support your mod with your release server files. Thank you and have a great day sir, its been great having a one sided conversation with you.
[5:48:27 PM] thevisad: I am sorry that you feel that the mod team of the server owners packages are out to get you :/