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  1. [2011-11-25 21:00:00] -->| YOU (Ironybot) have joined #golemquest
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  3. [2011-11-25 21:00:00] =-= Topic for #golemquest was set by ChicagoTed on Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:05:00 AM
  4. [2011-11-25 21:00:57] <Arkeus> hey Ironybot!
  5. [2011-11-25 21:01:03] * Arkeus tackles and hides the remains
  6. [2011-11-25 21:01:13] <Arkeus> So, what were your idea for the spar?
  7. [2011-11-25 21:02:52] |<-- Deadbeard has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243])
  8. [2011-11-25 21:03:14] <Dart666> http://brotherhoodoftofu.com/wakfu-season-1
  9. [2011-11-25 21:03:58] <Ironybot> Good evening.
  10. [2011-11-25 21:04:58] <Dart666> Nox is my favorite villain
  11. [2011-11-25 21:05:16] <Arkeus> Nox is the only villain in wakfu
  12. [2011-11-25 21:05:50] <Dart666> season 2 say otherwise
  13. [2011-11-25 21:05:55] <Ironybot> Nothing too exciting- and nothing that I think would have been particularly effective against Camella. I was thinking that since she was obviously getting two distinct inputs, her conventional attention and her soul attention, it would be to our benefit to work at attempting to push the information she was getting from those inputs as far apart as possible. Eventually, she'd begin relying...
  14. [2011-11-25 21:05:55] <Ironybot> ...upon one while ignoring the other, and then we could effectively do the same.
  15. [2011-11-25 21:06:02] <Guest23730> http://www.wimp.com/hungrybaby/
  16. [2011-11-25 21:06:38] <Ironybot> More than that, it would hopefully have taught us something about her abilities. But ultimately it wasn't anything that I'd have said was likely to really win the fight for us.
  17. [2011-11-25 21:07:11] <Arkeus> Mmmh ok
  18. [2011-11-25 21:07:18] <Arkeus> I think we did really well there
  19. [2011-11-25 21:07:25] <Ironybot> Obviously, we did.
  20. [2011-11-25 21:08:07] <TheBeardiestBob> The fact that not only were all the rolls good, but the average was the best seen thus far in the quest, and each roll was higher than the one before helped... just a little bit.
  21. [2011-11-25 21:08:38] <Ironybot> My only other strong idea about our fighting style is that we need to focus less on avoiding others' attention and more on controlling it instead. Learn to draw it where we need it. But that wouldn't have mattered at all against Camella, I suspect. It's something to master in many-v.-1 training fights.
  22. [2011-11-25 21:08:50] <BigSister> The Dice Gods were pleased that day
  23. [2011-11-25 21:09:44] <Arkeus> <Arkeus> bob: So, what were your prognostic for doing that well/better against camella? One chance out of five?
  24. [2011-11-25 21:10:16] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i think first we need many fights against lots of people
  25. [2011-11-25 21:10:25] <Arkeus> as it's more chaotic, it would be easier to redraw attention
  26. [2011-11-25 21:10:55] <Arkeus> i also think we should try to fight blind, to see if we can hone our attention-sense to get a better idea of soul-body correlations
  27. [2011-11-25 21:11:37] <Ironybot> It's not just that, it's that we need to consciously work at practicing drawing attention. It's not really something we've worked at, and our goblin training didn't really push for it- they're all about stealth, but we need more of a con man or stage magician mindset to properly make others look at what we want them to look at and miss what we want them to miss.
  28. [2011-11-25 21:11:57] <Ironybot> In other news, I am piecing together a mad scheme for power.
  29. [2011-11-25 21:12:06] <Guest23730> Good
  30. [2011-11-25 21:12:11] <Guest23730> We could always use more of those
  31. [2011-11-25 21:12:12] <TheBeardiestBob> I'm not sure there's a clear cut answer to your question unless I add a bunch of qualifiers Arkeus. Specifically: Assuming Armas and Camella to have equal rolls, and thus be judged solely on skill, not luck/external influences, then, in a one on one fight in a room where there are shadowed areas but still had sufficient lighting to see
  32. [2011-11-25 21:12:27] <TheBeardiestBob> Both were equally rested, and Armas could not ply his brother's assistence...
  33. [2011-11-25 21:12:56] <BigSister> We'd lose, of course.
  34. [2011-11-25 21:13:11] <TheBeardiestBob> Then I would tentatively say you had an 8 % chance of pulling a draw with her, and a statistically negligible chance of victory.
  35. [2011-11-25 21:13:17] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: ah, no, that's not what i meant. Sure, an answer to THAT question would be nice. I meant that in THIS particular spar, when you updated the post before, what were you expecting?
  36. [2011-11-25 21:13:23] <Arkeus> What chance did you give armas?
  37. [2011-11-25 21:13:28] <TheBeardiestBob> You to lose
  38. [2011-11-25 21:13:31] <TheBeardiestBob> that's what I expected
  39. [2011-11-25 21:13:50] <Arkeus> Heh, nil chance of drawing/winning?
  40. [2011-11-25 21:13:50] <Arkeus> wow
  41. [2011-11-25 21:13:56] <Guest23730> I only say this because knowing your track record a mad plan from you would probably not be utterly insane or of the same risk as a plan from say Falcon.
  42. [2011-11-25 21:14:12] <Arkeus> Ironybot: yes, we need practice at controlling the flow of battle
  43. [2011-11-25 21:14:14] <Ironybot> Mad scheme: Forge a heart for our mercenary group. An actual, literal heart, built of the freely given heartsblood and soul slivers of every member of the group.
  44. [2011-11-25 21:14:27] <BigSister> Dude. She chops up freakish underground monstrosities with armor that goes 'Fuck you' to bullets...in seconds.
  45. [2011-11-25 21:14:30] <Arkeus> Stealth is very good, but being able to control how things go is better
  46. [2011-11-25 21:14:33] <Guest23730> This is in fact mad
  47. [2011-11-25 21:14:39] <Guest23730> More than I expected
  48. [2011-11-25 21:14:46] <TheBeardiestBob> That's.... that's actually exactly spot on for how several freakishly high level Blood manipulation magics work, actually.
  49. [2011-11-25 21:14:49] <BigSister> I like your MAD, Irony.
  50. [2011-11-25 21:14:57] <Ironybot> Thank you.
  51. [2011-11-25 21:15:00] <TheBeardiestBob> ...Little odd that you were able to so accurately home in on that, not being aware of it.
  52. [2011-11-25 21:15:32] <Arkeus> lol
  53. [2011-11-25 21:15:38] <Arkeus> Ironybot: not sure how that would work
  54. [2011-11-25 21:15:42] <Arkeus> what would it do?
  55. [2011-11-25 21:15:42] <Guile> pity about Amen probably having to be involved somewhere, but its a better idea than just having Amen remold the russians' flesh or souls
  56. [2011-11-25 21:15:55] <TheBeardiestBob> But even stranger, for you specifically, Ironybot, this is not as strange as it should be as you've flat out randomly hit on things like this before.
  57. [2011-11-25 21:16:01] <TheBeardiestBob> Significantly moreso than other posters.
  58. [2011-11-25 21:16:08] <BigSister> ...
  59. [2011-11-25 21:16:12] <BigSister> IRONYBOT IS FROM THE FUTURE
  60. [2011-11-25 21:16:12] <Arkeus> Y_Y
  61. [2011-11-25 21:16:14] <Guile> let blood magic be worked through the russians, maybe, or act as a lich's phylactery? who knows
  62. [2011-11-25 21:16:18] <Arkeus> damn you Ironybot
  63. [2011-11-25 21:16:23] <Guest23730> Why?
  64. [2011-11-25 21:16:26] <Guest23730> The man has sense
  65. [2011-11-25 21:16:28] <Guest23730> Be happy
  66. [2011-11-25 21:16:32] <Arkeus> Indeed
  67. [2011-11-25 21:16:42] <Arkeus> I sometime dislike his sense, but he has some
  68. [2011-11-25 21:16:55] <Arkeus> Ironybot: so, what would be the goal?
  69. [2011-11-25 21:17:18] <Ironybot> The goal would be- well, what does a heart do for any organism?
  70. [2011-11-25 21:17:28] <BigSister> Pump blood?
  71. [2011-11-25 21:17:30] <Arkeus> It coordinate?
  72. [2011-11-25 21:17:39] <Arkeus> keep everyone healthy?
  73. [2011-11-25 21:17:42] <Ironybot> It pumps the essentials of life through it, moves nutrients to where it needs them.
  74. [2011-11-25 21:17:48] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Distribution of resources.
  75. [2011-11-25 21:17:55] <Arkeus> Mmmh... clever
  76. [2011-11-25 21:18:00] <Arkeus> So we coudl 'share' attributes
  77. [2011-11-25 21:18:16] <BigSister> Suddenly, all the Russians become Armas
  78. [2011-11-25 21:18:22] <TheBeardiestBob> It would mean you couldn't kill a member of the group without killing the whole group
  79. [2011-11-25 21:18:26] <TheBeardiestBob> if this was Russians only
  80. [2011-11-25 21:18:30] <Ironybot> I am hoping- can't guarantee this would happen- that it would let us draw on one another. Either channel magic power through it, maybe possess each other, see through each others' eyes- all kinds of shit.
  81. [2011-11-25 21:18:37] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ...This is starting to sound like some sort of Huntsmen of Annuvin scheme from the Prydain books.
  82. [2011-11-25 21:18:40] <TheBeardiestBob> trying to put Armas in there as anything more than just 'a member' would be an entirely different ball game.
  83. [2011-11-25 21:18:56] <Arkeus> Armas should definitely be more than a 'Member'
  84. [2011-11-25 21:19:05] <Arkeus> he could REALLY help everyone regen, as well as other stuff
  85. [2011-11-25 21:19:08] <BigSister> What if...
  86. [2011-11-25 21:19:09] <Arkeus> Sharing soul sense?
  87. [2011-11-25 21:19:11] <Arkeus> yes please
  88. [2011-11-25 21:19:13] <Guest23730> And if Armas is absolutely insane and goes Borders he could resurrect each member, making it really damn difficult to kill them save for killing them all at once.
  89. [2011-11-25 21:19:17] <Ironybot> That is the greatest weakness I've identified in the plan, yes. I can't figure out how to make it work while still leaving Armas as the guy unmistakably in charge.
  90. [2011-11-25 21:19:21] <BigSister> What if we implanted that heart...UNTO OURSELVES
  91. [2011-11-25 21:19:22] <TheBeardiestBob> You'd need to give Amen a distressingly large amount of free reign to successfully do anything more than the direct resources share thing.
  92. [2011-11-25 21:19:25] <BigSister> WE'D BE CONTROLLING THE GROUP[
  93. [2011-11-25 21:19:33] <TheBeardiestBob> Or find another way to accomplish it.
  94. [2011-11-25 21:19:36] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ...RTS mode?
  95. [2011-11-25 21:19:40] <Arkeus> Huh
  96. [2011-11-25 21:19:45] <Arkeus> I expect asking OG could help
  97. [2011-11-25 21:19:45] <BigSister> And FPS for every Russian
  98. [2011-11-25 21:19:50] <Arkeus> Hell, he'd be impressed
  99. [2011-11-25 21:19:59] <Ironybot> If we make the heart of the mercenary group literally be OUR heart, you mean? Install their heartsblood and soul slivers into our own chest?
  100. [2011-11-25 21:20:05] <BigSister> YES
  101. [2011-11-25 21:20:08] <Ironybot> That's utterly insane.
  102. [2011-11-25 21:20:16] <Arkeus> Oh right, for the meeting with Red Caps, i want to ask them to tell us if there are Einherjar in the Arenas
  103. [2011-11-25 21:20:18] <TheBeardiestBob> I see some... issues convincing the RUssians to go through with that
  104. [2011-11-25 21:20:18] <Ironybot> Not saying it wouldn't work, just that it's crazy as shit.
  105. [2011-11-25 21:20:25] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Now all that remains is teaching all the Russians the technique of avoiding incoming fire by bunnyhopping constantly.
  106. [2011-11-25 21:20:28] <TheBeardiestBob> If they are all equal, and share with others they know, that's one thing
  107. [2011-11-25 21:20:40] <BigSister> I like insane ideas...
  108. [2011-11-25 21:20:41] <Arkeus> Indeed
  109. [2011-11-25 21:20:54] <TheBeardiestBob> to have the briefly known strange would-be boss make them subservient to him in the process... well, best have some AMAZING persuasion going on.
  110. [2011-11-25 21:20:56] <Arkeus> Still, even doing it just for the Russians is good
  111. [2011-11-25 21:21:14] <Arkeus> Also, i don't think the 'subversient' thing is needed
  112. [2011-11-25 21:21:23] <Arkeus> Well, not too agressively subservient
  113. [2011-11-25 21:21:43] <BigSister> Or we could do it...without them knowing
  114. [2011-11-25 21:21:47] <Gunpowder_Symphony> In any case, I'm leaving the magic aspect of things to whoever the hell wants to much about with that, I'm just the munitionist here.
  115. [2011-11-25 21:21:57] <Guile> speaking of blood magic, does Jidkova have this group's blood?
  116. [2011-11-25 21:22:01] <Arkeus> Anyway, Ironybot, Guile, Grail: what di you think of my random ideas to try and control Borders better?
  117. [2011-11-25 21:22:02] <BigSister> *cough cough* Amen *cough cough*
  118. [2011-11-25 21:22:16] <Arkeus> We really must deal with Jidkova
  119. [2011-11-25 21:22:18] <Arkeus> :-(
  120. [2011-11-25 21:22:20] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Also, I'm out for the night. Later.
  121. [2011-11-25 21:22:22] <Arkeus> We keep pushing it back
  122. [2011-11-25 21:22:25] <Arkeus> laters gun
  123. [2011-11-25 21:22:29] <BigSister> Make her spill all the secrets to us
  124. [2011-11-25 21:22:30] |<-- Gunpowder_Symphony has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: I AM THE MAN WHO ARRANGES THE BOMBS)
  125. [2011-11-25 21:22:44] <Guile> Well, make her spill her secrets to Amen...
  126. [2011-11-25 21:22:49] <Guile> which, uh...
  127. [2011-11-25 21:22:53] <Arkeus> Pretty sure Amen has somehow made her gforget stuff
  128. [2011-11-25 21:22:55] <Guile> could have consequences
  129. [2011-11-25 21:22:55] <BigSister> Is a good idea
  130. [2011-11-25 21:22:59] <Arkeus> and then forgot them himself
  131. [2011-11-25 21:23:05] <BigSister> But with THIS type of info, I don't trust Amen with
  132. [2011-11-25 21:23:06] <Arkeus> so we can't really get as much as we'd like
  133. [2011-11-25 21:24:41] <Guest23730> A special experimentation room would probably be best for whatever bloodline we make, but simply asking for the knowledge of how to make one doesn't mean the resources would be available to us or even economical
  134. [2011-11-25 21:24:57] <Guest23730> Having one that already exists but is unused and free to take would be...well I think close to impossible
  135. [2011-11-25 21:24:59] <Arkeus> Guest23730: The wording is important, yes
  136. [2011-11-25 21:25:06] <Guest23730> No one leaves resources like that just hanging around
  137. [2011-11-25 21:25:11] <Arkeus> But keep in mind that Amen is VERY good for that
  138. [2011-11-25 21:25:17] <Guest23730> Ready for someone to squat on.
  139. [2011-11-25 21:25:20] <BigSister> ...it's a Gamble.
  140. [2011-11-25 21:25:24] <Arkeus> and with the right knoweldge, Og could tell us how to order him in the right way
  141. [2011-11-25 21:25:38] <BigSister> Or why don't we just ask Og to do it for us?
  142. [2011-11-25 21:25:42] <Arkeus> Also, We might be able to trade for necessary ingredients with SM
  143. [2011-11-25 21:25:55] <Guest23730> The second option involves a restriction I'm not even sure is viable from examples already given
  144. [2011-11-25 21:26:01] <Arkeus> BigSister: that was the plan, though he wouldn't agree to do it for us if we ask like that
  145. [2011-11-25 21:26:13] <Guest23730> But seeing as how our knowledge of restrictions for this particular setting is limited
  146. [2011-11-25 21:26:15] <Arkeus> Guest23730: not sure either, yes. IT could be viable, thoguh
  147. [2011-11-25 21:26:18] <Guest23730> I'll reserve saying anything
  148. [2011-11-25 21:26:26] <Guest23730> Anything could be viable
  149. [2011-11-25 21:26:27] <Arkeus> main problem with 2nd plan is itm ight make it much harder to become soulless
  150. [2011-11-25 21:26:34] <Guest23730> That's not exactly a strong argument
  151. [2011-11-25 21:26:46] <Arkeus> what isn't?
  152. [2011-11-25 21:26:52] <BigSister> Soulless...means /not/ having a soul, right?
  153. [2011-11-25 21:27:04] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: can you give thoughts on my posts about Borders on disc?
  154. [2011-11-25 21:27:06] <Arkeus> BigSister: no
  155. [2011-11-25 21:27:09] <BigSister> Or just having it stored in another place?
  156. [2011-11-25 21:27:15] <Arkeus> it means our soul can't be destroyed
  157. [2011-11-25 21:27:21] <Arkeus> like Deathless
  158. [2011-11-25 21:27:23] <Arkeus> or Mindless
  159. [2011-11-25 21:27:27] <Arkeus> for body, mind
  160. [2011-11-25 21:27:31] <BigSister> Hmmm
  161. [2011-11-25 21:27:52] <BigSister> We'll need to ask what makes the soul indestructible
  162. [2011-11-25 21:27:56] <TheBeardiestBob> Arkeus: Where are you going to get those three questions from?
  163. [2011-11-25 21:28:07] <BigSister> From 3 Einherjar?
  164. [2011-11-25 21:28:26] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: i'd ask only one question, refined, depending on what people decide
  165. [2011-11-25 21:28:26] <Dart666> Amen?
  166. [2011-11-25 21:28:26] <Guest23730> And the last one well sounds like some sort of weird kerjiggery version of weasel wine
  167. [2011-11-25 21:28:34] <Arkeus> Guest23730: exactly
  168. [2011-11-25 21:28:47] <Arkeus> I think weasel wine might help for that, though not sure
  169. [2011-11-25 21:29:06] <Arkeus> oh, also
  170. [2011-11-25 21:29:17] <Arkeus> <Arkeus> Oh right, for the meeting with Red Caps, i want to ask them to tell us if there are Einherjar in the Arenas
  171. [2011-11-25 21:29:29] <Arkeus> I think it's likely some could be there
  172. [2011-11-25 21:29:37] <BigSister> Also, I'm having this...gut-wrenching feeling we're gonna get our ass kicked in by an Einherjar in the near future
  173. [2011-11-25 21:29:50] <BigSister> Einher*
  174. [2011-11-25 21:30:11] <Guest23730> But everything you list is pretty much predicated on getting Og to answer us a question, which entails tangoing with more Einher. I ultimately don't see much creativity here, it's honestly just paying our tithe to the big boss man and getting him to solve our problem for us.
  175. [2011-11-25 21:30:18] <Guest23730> Albeit worded in three different ways
  176. [2011-11-25 21:31:52] <Arkeus> Well, it's about being pro-active about making future power safer
  177. [2011-11-25 21:32:04] <Arkeus> Though, yes, you make a good point
  178. [2011-11-25 21:32:06] <Guest23730> I'm not devaluing the goal
  179. [2011-11-25 21:32:20] <Arkeus> Trying to find for ourself without having to ask a question could net us much, much more
  180. [2011-11-25 21:32:38] <Arkeus> In fact, you make a REALLY good point about not relying on OG questions
  181. [2011-11-25 21:33:26] <BigSister> Hmm, doesn't this Quest's start sound weird to you guys?
  182. [2011-11-25 21:33:51] <Arkeus> What quest?
  183. [2011-11-25 21:33:57] <BigSister> GfH.
  184. [2011-11-25 21:34:18] <Arkeus> Not really
  185. [2011-11-25 21:34:26] <Arkeus> it took me a while to really get into it
  186. [2011-11-25 21:34:37] <Arkeus> Why do you htink it sounds weird?
  187. [2011-11-25 21:34:46] <BigSister> >A decade ago before Quest Start, Armas gets his soul messed with by a God. False memories, big soul damage and (probably) a remote soul-bomb
  188. [2011-11-25 21:35:03] <BigSister> >Armas spent his entire...10 years in the military stuck as a Grunt
  189. [2011-11-25 21:35:37] <Arkeus> Yeah, something fucky happened
  190. [2011-11-25 21:35:45] <BigSister> >After starting his merc. career in Istanbul, MAD CLIMB to power (okay, we're not really that high, but damn, our gaining rate should at least count)
  191. [2011-11-25 21:35:51] <Arkeus> I am actually wondering how much of our memories are true
  192. [2011-11-25 21:36:46] <BigSister> He becomes extremely proficient at manipulation, near-supernatural ambush skills
  193. [2011-11-25 21:37:09] <BigSister> Doesn't it seem weird?
  194. [2011-11-25 21:37:38] <BigSister> It's as if...him leaving the military/entering Istanbul/starting Merc career triggered something...
  195. [2011-11-25 21:37:41] <Arkeus> Well... Keep in mind that gor physical skills, Armas cheated
  196. [2011-11-25 21:38:04] <Arkeus> And mental skills... well, he was never really 'his own master'
  197. [2011-11-25 21:38:09] <Arkeus> But, yes, it seems strange
  198. [2011-11-25 21:38:18] <Arkeus> Of course it's because we REALLY messed up our rolls
  199. [2011-11-25 21:38:33] <Arkeus> But there might be other reasons
  200. [2011-11-25 21:38:39] <BigSister> Yeah, Bob has to somehow make up a good story with those terrible rolls
  201. [2011-11-25 21:38:43] <Arkeus> Going to try and sleep for a bit, laters
  202. [2011-11-25 21:39:15] <BigSister> Night Ark.
  203. [2011-11-25 21:39:40] <Ironybot> Armas' social development has been frankly unnatural. He has gone from virtually nil to a reflexive manipulator which, from my understanding of the relative rarity of high-level Traits, literally only one in a million can match.
  204. [2011-11-25 21:39:51] <Ironybot> He did this in... two months?
  205. [2011-11-25 21:39:57] <BigSister> Yes, all in the time period of a few months
  206. [2011-11-25 21:40:08] <BigSister> And he was a pretty shit guy before
  207. [2011-11-25 21:40:17] <Arkeus> Yeah
  208. [2011-11-25 21:40:27] <Arkeus> Ironybot: iirc, it's more like 1 in 100 millions
  209. [2011-11-25 21:40:36] <Arkeus> but last time i asked bob couldn't find his charts
  210. [2011-11-25 21:40:39] <Arkeus> bob: you found them?
  211. [2011-11-25 21:40:40] <BigSister> Something got triggered...
  212. [2011-11-25 21:40:55] <Ironybot> Much of the rest of our power gain ultimately emerges from compulsively aggressive use of his persuasive skills to gain power.
  213. [2011-11-25 21:41:16] <Arkeus> Which makes sense, as it IS Armas' greatest strenght
  214. [2011-11-25 21:41:24] <Arkeus> of course, our D and R really improved, too
  215. [2011-11-25 21:41:50] <Arkeus> This is also why i wanted to enhance our M/D/R traits with magic
  216. [2011-11-25 21:41:58] <Arkeus> Anyway, going to try to sleep
  217. [2011-11-25 21:42:02] =-= Arkeus is now known as ArkSleep
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  219. [2011-11-25 21:49:27] <Ironybot> On the heart scheme that I proposed earlier: We do need to be aware that the plan is far from without weaknesses. There are two which come to mind: Firstly, should any hostile party come to possess the heart it is likely that they could kill, or worse completely control, all those linked to it. Secondly, just as a heart pumps life and nutrients through the body, it ALSO occasionally pumps...
  220. [2011-11-25 21:49:27] <Ironybot> ...hostile things- like poison. There are likely analogous dangers we would need to be wary of, which might infect the net and be transmitted to everything in the company through its heart.
  221. [2011-11-25 21:51:55] <Ironybot> Things which are less explicitly dangerous but also potential hazards- the fact that the heart is made of soul and would have tons of magic pumped into it might make it spontaneously achieve sapience at some point. If the company endures long enough, it would likely also start soaking up no small amount of Belief from the members- and we know where that can lead.
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  223. [2011-11-25 21:57:13] <Guest23730> Good considerations, I can think of maybe a couple ways to negate the effect of attempted poisonings. The rest, well that's significantly harder. Thankfully this is a long term plan.
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  226. [2011-11-25 21:57:58] <Arkeus> Aahah sleep :-(
  227. [2011-11-25 21:58:54] <Ironybot> It's not necessarily a long-term plan. Ultimately all it requires is the heartsblood, soul bits, and agreement of all participating members- and the knowledge of blood and soul magic to properly bind them together.
  228. [2011-11-25 21:59:00] <Ironybot> And raw power, of course.
  229. [2011-11-25 21:59:11] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: just thinking about it, but you once said Buntline would have never worked its primary for Savoy: he already has an artifact?
  230. [2011-11-25 21:59:14] <Ironybot> Given that we have the Russians and Amen, we could literally do this tomorrow.
  231. [2011-11-25 21:59:19] <Arkeus> Also, was the Buntline made with BC in mind?
  232. [2011-11-25 21:59:33] <Ironybot> The wisdom of doing so is another matter, but it's quite possible.
  233. [2011-11-25 21:59:48] <Arkeus> I think we'd need to find the right way to phrase it, but yes
  234. [2011-11-25 22:03:01] <TheBeardiestBob> Savoy does indeed have an artifact-an Artifact Kukri, specifically.
  235. [2011-11-25 22:06:14] <Guest23730> Oh god
  236. [2011-11-25 22:06:20] <Guest23730> That's the perfect foil for the mere
  237. [2011-11-25 22:07:39] * Arkeus is glad to have FINALLY thought of that
  238. [2011-11-25 22:07:50] <Arkeus> But you did give us those hints before we knew about artifacts
  239. [2011-11-25 22:08:11] <Arkeus> Guest23730: why the perfect foil for the mere?
  240. [2011-11-25 22:10:23] <Arkeus> <TheBeardiestBob> Then I would tentatively say you had an 8 % chance of pulling a draw with her, and a statistically negligible chance of victory. <= So, if this was before we got High/Low stances, and Ego-less+, and freeign oru Chakra... i'd expect we'd have maybe 30% now
  241. [2011-11-25 22:10:35] <Arkeus> Of course, it relies on this 'if'
  242. [2011-11-25 22:10:54] <TheBeardiestBob> Yeah, she will be far more prepared for your existent melee shenanigans next time.
  243. [2011-11-25 22:11:08] <Arkeus> Obviously
  244. [2011-11-25 22:11:38] <Arkeus> Of course it's not like melee is our strong suits right now (talking is, or running away :p)
  245. [2011-11-25 22:12:51] <Arkeus> If we can get more training as well as some nice chakra training we might still surprise her, but unless she hits a plateau soon i don't expect to ever be stronger than her in Melee
  246. [2011-11-25 22:13:23] <Arkeus> Oh right, so, Hillevi's player, not leaving the game apparently?
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  248. [2011-11-25 22:17:13] <Guile> oh, we're probably slightly stronger than her, and maybe more flexible. She just has a vast edge on us in skill, experience, technique... pretty close to everything that matters
  249. [2011-11-25 22:17:46] <Guile> we're, what, just cresting over what a perfect human body can output, and we're bigger than her, too
  250. [2011-11-25 22:18:14] <Samar> up up down down left right left right b a start <=How Armas beats Camella
  251. [2011-11-25 22:19:27] <Guile> also, her Gambler's Grim Guts analogue must be like level 7 by now
  252. [2011-11-25 22:19:55] <Guest23730> Probably
  253. [2011-11-25 22:20:00] <Guile> Yes! Cheat! Cheat forever! Cheat to win! Armas is such a great character
  254. [2011-11-25 22:20:08] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: you messed up when we were on fire?
  255. [2011-11-25 22:20:11] <Guest23730> We're about equal when it comes to in-quest bodily harm
  256. [2011-11-25 22:20:16] <Arkeus> I mean, about not saying GGG activate
  257. [2011-11-25 22:20:17] <Arkeus> ?
  258. [2011-11-25 22:20:19] <Guest23730> Between her leg and what we saw of her coming out of the sewer
  259. [2011-11-25 22:20:41] <Arkeus> Well, our DDDDD is pretty strong
  260. [2011-11-25 22:20:52] <Arkeus> I think what Camella has is MANY more combat skills
  261. [2011-11-25 22:21:01] <Arkeus> we have just...2?
  262. [2011-11-25 22:21:02] <Guile> I mean, I guess you could give us the win for having an arm and most of our chest burned to a crisp, but yeah, probably
  263. [2011-11-25 22:21:05] <Arkeus> Hot Hands and SotG
  264. [2011-11-25 22:21:26] <Arkeus> Guile: well ,we lost a eye, and foot, and a arm
  265. [2011-11-25 22:21:30] <Arkeus> also, we got on fire
  266. [2011-11-25 22:21:48] <Guile> thank you, super-healing
  267. [2011-11-25 22:21:58] <Guile> damage ceases to mean the same thing
  268. [2011-11-25 22:22:06] <Arkeus> I am worried about how Camella will develop though, as if she doesn't learn chakra she might hit a ceiling though
  269. [2011-11-25 22:22:15] <Samar> then we need to help her
  270. [2011-11-25 22:22:16] <Guile> she's Ito's student
  271. [2011-11-25 22:22:38] <Arkeus> Yeah
  272. [2011-11-25 22:22:44] <Guile> and if she gets her chakras going, we can hand her Big's knife and tell her to drug up and go find a honey badger
  273. [2011-11-25 22:22:49] <Arkeus> She is possibly Lo fang level when it comes to learning
  274. [2011-11-25 22:22:55] <Samar> we should also try helping Ito correct whatever that inefficiency we saw was.
  275. [2011-11-25 22:23:00] <Arkeus> Guile: ehheh
  276. [2011-11-25 22:23:01] <Samar> with his charkra manip
  277. [2011-11-25 22:23:04] <Samar> chakra*
  278. [2011-11-25 22:23:16] <Guile> we saw an inefficiency?
  279. [2011-11-25 22:23:21] <Arkeus> Samar: i actually think it's because to us chakra manip looks ineficient
  280. [2011-11-25 22:23:29] <Arkeus> OTOH, it might be because he is hiding what he can do
  281. [2011-11-25 22:23:36] <Guest23730> Armas needs to get a spirit quest
  282. [2011-11-25 22:23:46] <Guest23730> Just so he can give Big a trollface
  283. [2011-11-25 22:23:50] <Arkeus> lol
  284. [2011-11-25 22:23:52] <Guile> ugh, though trying to correct the sensei when we've had, what, a few weeks' practice? Is such a jerkass thing to do
  285. [2011-11-25 22:24:28] <Arkeus> So, are you for trying to get more practice fighting against mobs blind?
  286. [2011-11-25 22:24:31] <Samar> its not a jerkass thing if we see somethign that he cant
  287. [2011-11-25 22:24:41] <Samar> we can make it not be "im better than you"
  288. [2011-11-25 22:24:53] <Arkeus> to try not only to improve our soul/attention sense in orer to detect small movements, but also to train redirecting attention?
  289. [2011-11-25 22:25:18] <Guile> Samar, this IS Armas we're talking about
  290. [2011-11-25 22:25:27] <Samar> point taken.
  291. [2011-11-25 22:25:29] <Guile> and Ito just got done telling us we had zero finesse or grace
  292. [2011-11-25 22:25:52] <Arkeus> Oh, about that
  293. [2011-11-25 22:26:04] <Arkeus> I was thinking... that might be because we TRY not to have either
  294. [2011-11-25 22:26:15] <Arkeus> Sure, our High stance lacks finess
  295. [2011-11-25 22:26:27] <Arkeus> But it's part of our style not to look to have finesse and grace
  296. [2011-11-25 22:26:32] <Arkeus> As it's bad for us
  297. [2011-11-25 22:26:38] <Samar> we should spend time with Ito just meditating if we want to improve either of those
  298. [2011-11-25 22:26:58] <Samar> and during such a time, we could look at his soul and try to assist him as well
  299. [2011-11-25 22:27:06] <Guile> stuff to do, people to be
  300. [2011-11-25 22:27:16] <Arkeus> Samar: it was flat out stated while training Einrik in Stealth that it's a method of moving that looks 'boring'
  301. [2011-11-25 22:27:22] <Arkeus> or "just not that interesting"
  302. [2011-11-25 22:27:29] <Samar> lol
  303. [2011-11-25 22:27:42] <Arkeus> This might be why Ito thinks we have no grace
  304. [2011-11-25 22:27:49] <Samar> because we look like a noob
  305. [2011-11-25 22:28:08] <Arkeus> Yeah, because we want to look like someone who is just average
  306. [2011-11-25 22:28:15] <Arkeus> when it comes to movements
  307. [2011-11-25 22:28:23] <Arkeus> And then there are the clothes...
  308. [2011-11-25 22:28:32] <Arkeus> so people CAN'T beleieve we do it on purpose
  309. [2011-11-25 22:28:40] <TheBeardiestBob> You know, if you got in, say, a dozen soul's worth of attempts at soulbinding, working out what you can do, you would be able to further self-teach on what you can do with your Winter Line by trying to make POSITIVE bindings on Ito to correct issues you note.
  310. [2011-11-25 22:28:52] <TheBeardiestBob> This would of course be after attempting it on other living souls where possible
  311. [2011-11-25 22:29:01] <Arkeus> Thanks a lot for the help, bob
  312. [2011-11-25 22:29:05] <TheBeardiestBob> Ito would not be 'subject 1' just the one you give the finished product to.
  313. [2011-11-25 22:29:17] <Arkeus> Nice of you to help
  314. [2011-11-25 22:29:28] <TheBeardiestBob> But consider what it would mean if successful, about what you could do with the Sami-based Soul Sculpting.
  315. [2011-11-25 22:29:41] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: would the restriction plan to help make border safer could work?
  316. [2011-11-25 22:29:49] <Arkeus> Indeed
  317. [2011-11-25 22:30:00] <Guile> A shame about having to find a dozen people who won't be missed, but Armas is nothing if not pragmatic
  318. [2011-11-25 22:30:12] <Samar> when i think about it, the stealth making it look ugly makes even more sense
  319. [2011-11-25 22:30:12] <Arkeus> Guile: enough people try to kill us
  320. [2011-11-25 22:30:18] <Arkeus> we don't need to go looking for them
  321. [2011-11-25 22:30:36] <Arkeus> Samar: it's stated when we teach Einrik
  322. [2011-11-25 22:30:38] <Arkeus> want the quote?
  323. [2011-11-25 22:30:42] <Samar> no
  324. [2011-11-25 22:30:47] <Guile> Yes, but then we'd have to get them back to the mansion and experiment on them. Do we hang up a sign on the door saying 'Affront to God in progress, don't interrupt'?
  325. [2011-11-25 22:30:53] <Samar> but it seems more and more likely
  326. [2011-11-25 22:31:02] <Samar> since it would hide our chakra ability
  327. [2011-11-25 22:33:13] <Arkeus> Guile: we don't need to
  328. [2011-11-25 22:33:15] <Arkeus> our eye
  329. [2011-11-25 22:33:19] <Arkeus> it can be done within our eye
  330. [2011-11-25 22:33:31] <Arkeus> and it would be completely undetectable
  331. [2011-11-25 22:33:50] <Arkeus> And whaitiri could eat what's left
  332. [2011-11-25 22:33:56] <Arkeus> If we don't want to look like a soul eater
  333. [2011-11-25 22:34:05] <TheBeardiestBob> See how easy it is to commit atrocities?
  334. [2011-11-25 22:34:08] <Arkeus> indeed
  335. [2011-11-25 22:34:11] <Arkeus> :-(
  336. [2011-11-25 22:34:22] <Arkeus> I was waiting for that one.
  337. [2011-11-25 22:34:33] <Ironybot> None of that frowning. Atrocity is just a word.
  338. [2011-11-25 22:34:43] <Arkeus> Bob mostly helps when it comes to try and make it easier to be a Villain
  339. [2011-11-25 22:35:01] <TheBeardiestBob> Well with no teacher and such a rare ability, you are rather limited in learning opportunities.
  340. [2011-11-25 22:35:10] <Arkeus> I still remember him going "i'll give you a superb bonus to your M. But, hey, Armas won't ever be sincere"
  341. [2011-11-25 22:35:17] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: indeed
  342. [2011-11-25 22:35:21] <TheBeardiestBob> Learning Chakra manip is great, but is a very limited subset of your Winter line's capacity.
  343. [2011-11-25 22:35:28] <Arkeus> I also am not sure Laib Olmai actually can do that stuff
  344. [2011-11-25 22:35:34] <Arkeus> I think it has to do with Romanov too
  345. [2011-11-25 22:35:37] <TheBeardiestBob> since it's soul manipulation has made your winter line 'own' your chakras
  346. [2011-11-25 22:35:45] <Arkeus> ;-)
  347. [2011-11-25 22:35:45] <Ironybot> They almost certainly cannot do what we are doing with personal enhancement.
  348. [2011-11-25 22:35:49] <Guile> True, if we ever wanted to head down the path of terrible tentacle-y Otherness, we know the perfect spirit animal
  349. [2011-11-25 22:36:09] <Arkeus> Ironybot: yeah, it's possible the inner soul manip made it easier to control on the fly
  350. [2011-11-25 22:36:19] <Ironybot> Recall that Sami is an external soul manipulation bloodline; Armas' composite bloodline is combined external/internal. It is the internal that gives us the ability to self-boost.
  351. [2011-11-25 22:36:35] <Arkeus> Actually, bob never answers when i ask what is sami exactly
  352. [2011-11-25 22:36:40] <Ironybot> The Sami have to much about with spirit animals.
  353. [2011-11-25 22:36:42] <Arkeus> i think it's a general Soul manip one
  354. [2011-11-25 22:36:44] <Arkeus> but a SLOW one
  355. [2011-11-25 22:36:45] <Ironybot> Muck about, that is.
  356. [2011-11-25 22:36:51] <Arkeus> (as in, sacrifice speed for General)
  357. [2011-11-25 22:37:12] <Ironybot> I am reasonably certain that we have been explicitly told that Sami is external.
  358. [2011-11-25 22:37:23] <Arkeus> I'll ask bob again: Sami is solely external, or External + internal?
  359. [2011-11-25 22:37:43] <TheBeardiestBob> So, Laib Olmai Sami Soul Sculpting lessons, Lo Fang /Einrik Contact Chakra lessons, self-study Soul-binding, a prepared room to self-study self-soul sculpting once you start being proficient and largely familiar with your power...
  360. [2011-11-25 22:37:59] <TheBeardiestBob> You could actually become competent if you put your back into it.
  361. [2011-11-25 22:38:12] <TheBeardiestBob> Sami is External
  362. [2011-11-25 22:38:16] <TheBeardiestBob> they can sculpt other souls
  363. [2011-11-25 22:38:19] <TheBeardiestBob> not their own
  364. [2011-11-25 22:38:30] <TheBeardiestBob> so they sculpt spirit animals, and use them to do a work around
  365. [2011-11-25 22:38:51] <TheBeardiestBob> sculpting and binding are similar, but only overlap on some facets of function
  366. [2011-11-25 22:39:16] <Guile> We could totally become competent - but that sounds like it would take a lot of work and- Ooo, shiny! *wanders off*
  367. [2011-11-25 22:39:48] <Guest23730> Seems like enough revolving training to make Armas not lose interest...that quickly
  368. [2011-11-25 22:39:52] <Ironybot> We do rather strongly favor the path to power that's ultimately little more than a series of accumulated leaps towards the closest fast and dirty upgrade.
  369. [2011-11-25 22:40:09] <TheBeardiestBob> it would seem logical that, if this collective training were to be undertaken, you would be constantly redefining the maximum you could learn about charm crafting from the Goblins.
  370. [2011-11-25 22:40:10] <Guest23730> I mean we did subject our selves to a week of solely Ito/Goblin training
  371. [2011-11-25 22:40:22] <Arkeus> He does surprisingly well. I'm not sure if it's because he's had time to mull it over himself, or from watching me practice it in earnest whilst chasing my Id, but his movements have gained that sense of... comfort, in the motions he lacked before-something that makes them natural-and thus not worthy of notice, neither bad enough to gawk, or skillful enough to appreciate-the motions of a
  372. [2011-11-25 22:40:22] <Arkeus> man at his craft, nothing more. <= the part about our stealth
  373. [2011-11-25 22:41:22] <Guile> Charms and chakra/soul are intertwined?
  374. [2011-11-25 22:41:26] <Arkeus> <Ironybot> We do rather strongly favor the path to power that's ultimately little more than a series of accumulated leaps towards the closest fast and dirty upgrade. <= that's... not quite true
  375. [2011-11-25 22:41:46] <Arkeus> i agree with neitheR Alratan's assessmenet that Armas always puch back immedite power, or yours
  376. [2011-11-25 22:41:57] <Ironybot> Oh?
  377. [2011-11-25 22:41:59] <Arkeus> Armas both likes THE SHINY
  378. [2011-11-25 22:42:09] <Arkeus> But he also tends to make longer-term plans for his ability
  379. [2011-11-25 22:42:16] <Guest23730> Well we know Lo Fang's version of charms use chakra
  380. [2011-11-25 22:42:22] <Arkeus> Sure, we didn't try to get the x5 bloodline that would take us 10 thread
  381. [2011-11-25 22:42:42] <Arkeus> but we also didn't got 3xSami/1xRomanov, for example
  382. [2011-11-25 22:42:44] <Guest23730> So there's at least a basis for charms being fueled from/created from that particular type of magic
  383. [2011-11-25 22:42:50] <Arkeus> and that would have been powerful immediately
  384. [2011-11-25 22:42:55] <Ironybot> The phrase "strongly favor" was not meant to imply that we exclusively use that strategy, but rather that it dominates most of our decisions.
  385. [2011-11-25 22:43:11] <Arkeus> Well, not sure it dominates it
  386. [2011-11-25 22:43:15] <Guest23730> I view charms as a very diverse and umbrella field types and creation techniques
  387. [2011-11-25 22:43:19] <Arkeus> i think we do both in sort of equal measure
  388. [2011-11-25 22:43:35] <Ironybot> I don't really have an interest in arguing percentages, but your point is made.
  389. [2011-11-25 22:43:38] <Arkeus> Yeah, i really want to do that Lo Fang/Goblin charm merging
  390. [2011-11-25 22:43:52] <Arkeus> Learn about both, and learn to do our own
  391. [2011-11-25 22:43:56] <Arkeus> It will take TIME thoguh
  392. [2011-11-25 22:44:02] <Arkeus> but i believe it may be worth it
  393. [2011-11-25 22:44:22] <Guest23730> And with this recent information it seems the goblinic way is inclined towards soul/chakra manipulation or has vast swathes of it's function use them.
  394. [2011-11-25 22:44:28] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: would Romanov means we'd be able to Self- soulsculpt?
  395. [2011-11-25 22:44:37] <TheBeardiestBob> It is why you can yes
  396. [2011-11-25 22:44:40] <Guile> Demon arm. Amen's chakra training. Og. I guess he broke the mold with Ito's training, and Einrik basically offered us Kas Pin
  397. [2011-11-25 22:44:40] <Arkeus> Guest23730: which recent info?
  398. [2011-11-25 22:44:45] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: yessss
  399. [2011-11-25 22:44:49] <Guest23730> What Bob just said
  400. [2011-11-25 22:45:18] <Guest23730> That our training would redefined how much of goblin charm crafting we could learn from them
  401. [2011-11-25 22:45:20] <Guile> surely there will be no negative consequences for tampering with our own soul
  402. [2011-11-25 22:45:21] <Arkeus> right, bu he 'implies'
  403. [2011-11-25 22:45:31] <Arkeus> Guile: incredibly dangerous
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  405. [2011-11-25 22:45:40] <Arkeus> but it's the way to soulless iirc
  406. [2011-11-25 22:45:42] <Arkeus> but, yes
  407. [2011-11-25 22:45:44] <Guest23730> *Woosh*
  408. [2011-11-25 22:45:52] <Arkeus> not to do before we have done it on many... others
  409. [2011-11-25 22:45:59] <Arkeus> hey BUTTZ
  410. [2011-11-25 22:46:27] <BUTTZ> So I hear there's a lake troll in Finland
  411. [2011-11-25 22:46:31] <Arkeus> So, bob, Warded Room to help us be safer for soul experimentation would work even if we were to have borders?
  412. [2011-11-25 22:46:37] <Guest23730> Irony, do make sure to post these logs later
  413. [2011-11-25 22:46:38] <Ironybot> Of course Romanov is why we can self-soul sculpt. It's an internal soul manipulation bloodline; it was made clear when we first discussed the composite bloodline that the bloodlines would cause a widening or generalization of their powers in the direction of one another. I strongly suspect that ANY internal soul manipulation bloodline with a significant amount of power would have enabled...
  414. [2011-11-25 22:46:38] <Ironybot> ...self-soul sculpting.
  415. [2011-11-25 22:46:40] <Arkeus> BUTTZ: OURS
  416. [2011-11-25 22:46:45] <BUTTZ> Mustakrakish, the land-taker
  417. [2011-11-25 22:46:56] <Guest23730> Forgot to copy paste some from earlier
  418. [2011-11-25 22:47:09] <Ironybot> As long as the bloodline was combined with Sami, of course.
  419. [2011-11-25 22:47:11] <Arkeus> Ironybot: Well, possibly
  420. [2011-11-25 22:47:15] <Arkeus> Indeed
  421. [2011-11-25 22:47:18] <BUTTZ> he has a secret vulnerability though
  422. [2011-11-25 22:47:31] <BUTTZ> music played on a grandpa's guitar
  423. [2011-11-25 22:47:41] <TheBeardiestBob> Ironybot's assertion is correct.
  424. [2011-11-25 22:47:44] <Arkeus> btw, Guile, Grail, Ironybot: saw my quote abotu our stealth
  425. [2011-11-25 22:47:51] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: thks for confirmation
  426. [2011-11-25 22:48:13] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: what is Einher? Soul/Flesh?
  427. [2011-11-25 22:48:32] <Guest23730> What quote?
  428. [2011-11-25 22:48:56] <Arkeus> He does surprisingly well. I'm not sure if it's because he's had time to mull it over himself, or from watching me practice it in earnest whilst chasing my Id, but his movements have gained that sense of... comfort, in the motions he lacked before-something that makes them natural-and thus not worthy of notice, neither bad enough to gawk, or skillful enough to appreciate-the motions of a
  429. [2011-11-25 22:48:57] <Arkeus> man at his craft, nothing more. <= the part about our stealth
  430. [2011-11-25 22:49:31] <Guest23730> What about it?
  431. [2011-11-25 22:49:58] =-= Guest23730 is now known as Grail
  432. [2011-11-25 22:50:01] <Arkeus> Well, i suspect this might be, in part, why we lack Finesse
  433. [2011-11-25 22:50:05] <Arkeus> I mean, in Ito's mind
  434. [2011-11-25 22:50:15] <Arkeus> Sure, our High-stance isn't great
  435. [2011-11-25 22:50:24] <BUTTZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfQ-Xg_MS3k
  436. [2011-11-25 22:50:25] <Classhole> BUTTZ: Grandpa's Guitars - length 17s - rated 4.99/5.0 (309) - 59854 views - xoarsist on 2009.12.25
  437. [2011-11-25 22:50:25] <Arkeus> but our low-stance is actually pretty good
  438. [2011-11-25 22:50:58] <BUTTZ> Arkeus that stealth quote was about Einrik though wasn't it?
  439. [2011-11-25 22:51:03] <Arkeus> Yes
  440. [2011-11-25 22:51:09] <Ironybot> I think that the conversation we were holding with Ito at the time was specifically relevant to our chakras, not our combat abilities; recall we had it before he saw us fight again. His comment would have been relevant to our spiritual finesse, not our physical finesse.
  441. [2011-11-25 22:51:14] <Grail> Gotta love Dethklok
  442. [2011-11-25 22:51:25] <Arkeus> Ironybot: he said it after too
  443. [2011-11-25 22:51:28] <Arkeus> gimme a sec
  444. [2011-11-25 22:51:30] <Ironybot> I will review.
  445. [2011-11-25 22:51:45] <Grail> Reminds me
  446. [2011-11-25 22:51:48] <Arkeus> >[Camella]"Well, whatever it is, it... works for you. Particularly with what you already did."
  447. [2011-11-25 22:51:48] <Arkeus> >[Ito]"I agree. Were you not so.... lacking in finesse, I'd ask you to teach bayonet and spear work."
  448. [2011-11-25 22:52:00] <Grail> Never use our thunder manipulation near lakes in Scandinavia.
  449. [2011-11-25 22:52:04] <Arkeus> lol
  450. [2011-11-25 22:52:12] <Arkeus> Why that?
  451. [2011-11-25 22:52:19] <Grail> Trolls
  452. [2011-11-25 22:52:23] <Guile> I think Ito said we lacked grace in BOTH topics
  453. [2011-11-25 22:52:29] <Arkeus> Yes
  454. [2011-11-25 22:52:40] <Arkeus> But for our body, it might be in part because of stealth
  455. [2011-11-25 22:52:48] <Ironybot> We broke Camella's collarbone. He was delicately saying "I am not letting someone who breaks bones in a spar teach my students."
  456. [2011-11-25 22:52:58] * Arkeus facepalm
  457. [2011-11-25 22:53:01] * Arkeus feels like an idiot
  458. [2011-11-25 22:53:23] <Guile> yes, that was... somewhat less than perfect
  459. [2011-11-25 22:53:23] <Arkeus> OTOH, it WAS after a 40 minutes spar
  460. [2011-11-25 22:53:40] <BUTTZ> We don't want to teach anyway
  461. [2011-11-25 22:53:46] <Guile> and we were trying really hard. Armas likes winning
  462. [2011-11-25 22:53:51] <Grail> A steady normal job?
  463. [2011-11-25 22:53:53] <Grail> BAH
  464. [2011-11-25 22:53:54] <Guile> although he also has his priorities in order
  465. [2011-11-25 22:53:57] <Grail> I spit on you
  466. [2011-11-25 22:54:26] <Arkeus> Mmmh, we know if a second update is possible?
  467. [2011-11-25 22:54:31] <Guile> Camella technique: Monkey Steals the Peach. Armas: Abort! Abort! Uncle! I give!
  468. [2011-11-25 22:54:50] <Grail> Armas is going to need to learn balls of steel chakra techniques
  469. [2011-11-25 22:54:54] <Arkeus> lol Guile
  470. [2011-11-25 22:54:54] <Grail> Just for facing Camella
  471. [2011-11-25 22:54:59] <Arkeus> :-)
  472. [2011-11-25 22:55:02] <Ironybot> Armas had already lost the spar and had to surrender at that point; Camella's crotch-attack was just the kicker.
  473. [2011-11-25 22:55:09] <Arkeus> huh?
  474. [2011-11-25 22:55:11] <Grail> Camella : "MONKEY STEALS THE PEACH!"
  475. [2011-11-25 22:55:12] <Arkeus> we had won
  476. [2011-11-25 22:55:13] <TheBeardiestBob> Starting a second update now
  477. [2011-11-25 22:55:15] <Ironybot> If you cause physical injury to your opponent in a training match you lose it by default.
  478. [2011-11-25 22:55:18] <Arkeus> Thks bob
  479. [2011-11-25 22:55:19] <TheBeardiestBob> tell me if there's any pending posts
  480. [2011-11-25 22:55:25] <Arkeus> Ironybot: heh
  481. [2011-11-25 22:55:27] <Arkeus> Really?
  482. [2011-11-25 22:55:27] <Grail> ARMAS: "B-B-BALLS OF STEEL."
  483. [2011-11-25 22:55:30] <Guile> He can learn iron Crotch from Lo Fang - pretty sure northern Shaolin teaches that one
  484. [2011-11-25 22:55:30] <Grail> *CLANK*
  485. [2011-11-25 22:55:48] <Ironybot> Well, it might not be true in all scoring/sparring systems, but it is in some.
  486. [2011-11-25 22:56:10] <Ironybot> Because you're not supposed to fucking hurt each other when you're trying to learn.
  487. [2011-11-25 22:56:15] <Arkeus> I don't see much help against injury when sparrying with staves
  488. [2011-11-25 22:56:26] <Arkeus> But, yes, good point
  489. [2011-11-25 22:56:41] <Arkeus> Ironybot: not going to post?
  490. [2011-11-25 22:56:44] <Arkeus> <TheBeardiestBob> tell me if there's any pending posts
  491. [2011-11-25 22:56:45] <Guile> I wonder if Iron -insert bodypart here- is a strictly mundane technique like in the real world, based on killing the nerve endings and learning to endure damage, or if its some kinda magic body-hardening thing
  492. [2011-11-25 22:57:03] <Ironybot> I have not started writing. I wasn't online most of this evening.
  493. [2011-11-25 22:57:10] <Grail> Magic I believe, since Armas can heal his nerve endings from what we've seen
  494. [2011-11-25 22:57:28] <Grail> And it was stated Armas could learn those, if I recall correctly
  495. [2011-11-25 22:57:30] <Ironybot> Have been for the last two hours, admittedly, but I've mostly been chatting here.
  496. [2011-11-25 22:57:34] <Guile> I mean, Armas's healing may make it impossible to learn Iron -Whatever-, if its not magic
  497. [2011-11-25 22:57:45] <Guile> yes, this chatroom has a way of sucking the hours away
  498. [2011-11-25 22:57:51] <Arkeus> Well, we learned it when fighting against camella
  499. [2011-11-25 22:57:59] <Arkeus> Remember Ito's is toughening/strenghening
  500. [2011-11-25 22:58:04] <Arkeus> it looks like that's what we did
  501. [2011-11-25 22:58:13] <Arkeus> That it does, when people talk
  502. [2011-11-25 22:58:18] <Guile> except our chakras are UNASPECTED right now
  503. [2011-11-25 22:58:28] <Guile> so who knows what the hell we did
  504. [2011-11-25 22:58:30] <Grail> http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1322275101002.jpg
  505. [2011-11-25 22:58:32] <Arkeus> and... shhh, but people at night are usually better behaved than ones during the day
  506. [2011-11-25 22:58:33] <Guile> probably some Sami thing
  507. [2011-11-25 22:58:38] <Grail> >Armas in military
  508. [2011-11-25 22:58:46] <Ironybot> No, it's not Sami. Remember, Sami is external manipulation.
  509. [2011-11-25 22:58:47] <Arkeus> Guile: not sami, as it's not internal
  510. [2011-11-25 22:58:53] <Guile> Emperor Palpatine, is that you? You've lost weight.
  511. [2011-11-25 22:58:59] <Arkeus> Appararently, i think we can now do whatever the fuck we want
  512. [2011-11-25 22:59:02] <Ironybot> This is what Sami would do if it was an internal bloodline.
  513. [2011-11-25 22:59:04] <Guile> Sami/Romanov, then. Whatev.
  514. [2011-11-25 22:59:07] <Arkeus> And we had seen enough of ito to copy what he did
  515. [2011-11-25 22:59:08] <Arkeus> i think
  516. [2011-11-25 22:59:09] <Arkeus> or try to
  517. [2011-11-25 22:59:41] <Arkeus> That's why i made that theory in my post about keeping our chakra to stealh = keeping us from using them at will
  518. [2011-11-25 22:59:59] <Ironybot> Our chakras are unaspected because, I think, this is a facet of it being easy as breathing to change our chakras- where others have to work at it, our default is always unaspected because once we learn what the shit we're doing, we will instinctively apply our soul's power to whatever we're doing.
  519. [2011-11-25 23:00:12] <Arkeus> Yep
  520. [2011-11-25 23:00:21] <Arkeus> And aspected them could actually 'stuck' them
  521. [2011-11-25 23:00:22] <Ironybot> It should make us a rather potent powerhouse in combat.
  522. [2011-11-25 23:00:26] <Arkeus> At least, until we 'needed more'
  523. [2011-11-25 23:00:57] <Arkeus> And, yes, this spar probably REALLY helped Armas when it will come to learning chakra
  524. [2011-11-25 23:01:14] <Arkeus> 5 level up in a spar?
  525. [2011-11-25 23:01:16] <Arkeus> yes please
  526. [2011-11-25 23:01:24] <Arkeus> well, 'level up'
  527. [2011-11-25 23:02:01] <Grail> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeG-hNXXy6I&feature=related
  528. [2011-11-25 23:02:02] <Classhole> Grail: Down Under - Men At Work (HQ Audio) - length 3m 40s - rated 4.97/5.0 (17500) - 5006104 views - Luiscmck8Os2 on 2008.07.18
  529. [2011-11-25 23:02:05] <Grail> This got stuck in my head again
  530. [2011-11-25 23:02:09] <Grail> So enjoy
  531. [2011-11-25 23:02:50] <Grail> It should be Armas' theme song after he gets thunder powers
  532. [2011-11-25 23:03:17] <Guile> His New Zealand trip
  533. [2011-11-25 23:03:28] <Arkeus> So, Ironybot, Grail, Guile: thoughts on how to find out and how to build a warded room that could help keep us alive while practicing our bloodline?
  534. [2011-11-25 23:03:29] <Guile> Whaitiri: A strange lady that took him in and gave him breakfast
  535. [2011-11-25 23:03:35] <Arkeus> lol
  536. [2011-11-25 23:03:40] <Guile> We're already building a mystery room
  537. [2011-11-25 23:04:35] <Guile> We could either have that be the focus of our training with Lo Fang, or have Amen do it
  538. [2011-11-25 23:04:36] <Ironybot> I think that attempting such a thing prior to the completion of our bloodline would likely be unwise.
  539. [2011-11-25 23:04:41] <Arkeus> I really hope we won't mess our rolls for our bloodline
  540. [2011-11-25 23:04:54] <Arkeus> Ironybot: oh?
  541. [2011-11-25 23:04:57] <Arkeus> Explain
  542. [2011-11-25 23:05:13] <Guile> we should have Wuten roll. Our bloodline actually shrinks upon completion
  543. [2011-11-25 23:05:19] <Arkeus> :-(
  544. [2011-11-25 23:06:06] <Arkeus> Mmmh, actually ATTEMPTING it might be bad, yes, but trying to get info on it and ingredients might help
  545. [2011-11-25 23:06:08] <Ironybot> Our bloodline is going to change and grow significantly following its completion. Wards super-specialized to affect one bloodline and protect us with it might well not function correctly with the more developed version.
  546. [2011-11-25 23:06:11] <Arkeus> so that i becomes easier
  547. [2011-11-25 23:06:19] <Arkeus> Yeah
  548. [2011-11-25 23:06:32] <Ironybot> Prudence demands that if we want to do it right, we specialize it to affect the final version of our bloodline and that only.
  549. [2011-11-25 23:07:04] <Arkeus> Indeed
  550. [2011-11-25 23:07:23] <Arkeus> And, dammit
  551. [2011-11-25 23:07:33] <Arkeus> i really want to get rid of Smet's house and Amen
  552. [2011-11-25 23:07:39] <Arkeus> But he might really be needed :-(
  553. [2011-11-25 23:07:45] <Arkeus> We'll see
  554. [2011-11-25 23:07:58] <Ironybot> It would be unwise to get rid of him.
  555. [2011-11-25 23:08:05] <Guile> We cant get rid of Amen, he might be the only way to survive his own death plots
  556. [2011-11-25 23:08:33] <Ironybot> Completely aside from the loss of power involved, there is a substantial risk that whomever acquired his services following us would seek our death- with Amen's power at their disposal.
  557. [2011-11-25 23:08:33] <Arkeus> lol
  558. [2011-11-25 23:08:43] <Arkeus> Ironybot: oh, indeed
  559. [2011-11-25 23:08:46] <Guile> AAnother theme song for Armas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSq8ZBdSxNU
  560. [2011-11-25 23:08:47] <Classhole> Guile: Spandau Ballet - Gold - length 3m 50s - rated 4.91/5.0 (14736) - 6939045 views - yildori on 2006.10.23
  561. [2011-11-25 23:08:50] <Arkeus> we can't get rid of him easily
  562. [2011-11-25 23:09:04] <Arkeus> It would have to be about trying to change him
  563. [2011-11-25 23:09:07] <Arkeus> or destroy him
  564. [2011-11-25 23:09:37] <Arkeus> I also really want to get enough mundane souls stockpiled in our eye to be able to soulbind doonegaes
  565. [2011-11-25 23:09:45] <Arkeus> but that might force use to eat those souls
  566. [2011-11-25 23:09:49] <Guile> Luck has left me standing so tall/Gold! Always believe in your soul/You've got the power to know/You're indestructible! Always believe in gold!
  567. [2011-11-25 23:09:50] <Arkeus> :-(
  568. [2011-11-25 23:09:51] <Ironybot> I suspect that it would be possible to copy our own psyche over Amen's. But I don't know whether we could do that without having our copied psyche go completely insane.
  569. [2011-11-25 23:10:02] <Arkeus> Indeed
  570. [2011-11-25 23:10:17] <Guile> Would we notice the difference between a Hateful Amen and a Trollish Amen?
  571. [2011-11-25 23:10:21] <Arkeus> And Armas' psyche isn't the best...
  572. [2011-11-25 23:10:30] <Guile> and he might have to devour us for that to work
  573. [2011-11-25 23:10:43] <Guile> our soul shenanigans dont work on people x3 stronger than us
  574. [2011-11-25 23:11:27] <TheBeardiestBob> Ironybot's right, having Amen/the house is like riding a tiger
  575. [2011-11-25 23:11:29] <Arkeus> For spirit animals at least yes
  576. [2011-11-25 23:11:31] <TheBeardiestBob> once you start
  577. [2011-11-25 23:11:36] <TheBeardiestBob> you... you keep on going
  578. [2011-11-25 23:11:41] <Arkeus> Stopping is harder than riding, yes
  579. [2011-11-25 23:11:55] <Arkeus> WE HAVE TO USE ANIMAL EMPEROR ON AMEN
  580. [2011-11-25 23:11:57] <Grail> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM0e1m9T9HQ
  581. [2011-11-25 23:11:59] <Classhole> Grail: The Man Who Sold The World - David Bowie - Live at the beeb - length 4m 17s - rated 4.78/5.0 (5003) - 2191680 views - blootoof on 2006.12.05
  582. [2011-11-25 23:12:12] <Arkeus> Ironybot: do you at least agree to plan to make sure Amen can't go into our mind anymore?
  583. [2011-11-25 23:12:53] <Ironybot> Please outline said plan.
  584. [2011-11-25 23:13:29] <Ironybot> Also, opinions on why Mr. Mystery was concerned about shielding his note from Amen's perceptions- when Amen was in our head when we got his LAST note, unless I am quite mistaken?
  585. [2011-11-25 23:13:32] <Arkeus> Just make sure Amen can't read our memories unless we let him
  586. [2011-11-25 23:13:58] <Arkeus> Ironybot: he might actually be able to make Amen not think about that note
  587. [2011-11-25 23:14:03] <Arkeus> even while we read it
  588. [2011-11-25 23:14:11] <Arkeus> that would be seriously H4XX, though
  589. [2011-11-25 23:14:20] <Arkeus> or maybe he isn't aware Amen is in our mind
  590. [2011-11-25 23:14:36] <Ironybot> And subsequently somehow miss that portion of our memories, given that Amen hacked our head completely, admin level access to all files?
  591. [2011-11-25 23:14:43] <Ironybot> That would be some trick.
  592. [2011-11-25 23:14:50] <Arkeus> Indeed
  593. [2011-11-25 23:14:55] <Grail> Would explain the word limit
  594. [2011-11-25 23:15:04] <Arkeus> Well, i am unsure how completely Amen hacked into our mind
  595. [2011-11-25 23:15:58] <Ironybot> Amen is a virtually unmatched blood mage, who not only had some of our blood but had some of his blood in us. I'm reasonably certain that dictates a complete and total hack.
  596. [2011-11-25 23:16:00] <Arkeus> I wondered if it was a shadowfiend!Armas, but he looks way too interested in Silja for it to be Armas
  597. [2011-11-25 23:16:07] <Arkeus> unless there are things we don't know
  598. [2011-11-25 23:16:22] <Arkeus> Ironybot: unless some of his binding means he isn't allowed to
  599. [2011-11-25 23:16:34] <Ironybot> Speaking of the word limit, did we ever actually count the words in that note?
  600. [2011-11-25 23:16:35] <Guile> a few possibilities - Note Writer can do the same thing the Valkonen wards can do. Or he didnt want Amen to know about a second note
  601. [2011-11-25 23:16:43] <Ironybot> Any interesting number pop up?
  602. [2011-11-25 23:16:55] <Guile> Or he actually somehow shielded the first note from Amen despite him reading our mind
  603. [2011-11-25 23:17:20] <Guile> ... huh, I wonder if Amen reading our mind would be a way to get around the prohibition on learning?
  604. [2011-11-25 23:18:02] <Ironybot> That prohibition is likely in place for a very good reason, and I am disinclined to circumvent it.
  605. [2011-11-25 23:18:20] <Arkeus> indeed
  606. [2011-11-25 23:18:39] <Guile> well sure. and allowing amen back into our mind would totally defeat the purpose
  607. [2011-11-25 23:18:40] <Arkeus> It does seem he learned Ta Reo from our mind- or he reads our mind while we say the orders
  608. [2011-11-25 23:18:49] <Guile> of using a question from Og
  609. [2011-11-25 23:19:28] <Arkeus> http://kotaku.com/5861721/the-portal-themed-kiddy-room-is-so-cute-and-somewhat-creepy saw this earlier bob?
  610. [2011-11-25 23:19:29] <Arkeus> and others
  611. [2011-11-25 23:19:54] <BUTTZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=bDKPVOz-aqA
  612. [2011-11-25 23:19:55] <Classhole> BUTTZ: Water Earphones - length 1m 19s - rated 4.50/5.0 (104) - 32633 views - JustForLaughsTV on 2011.03.14
  613. [2011-11-25 23:20:21] <BUTTZ> There's Shadow in the ear canal when someone is wearing headphones, and Sake could boost a mist of water up to speed...
  614. [2011-11-25 23:20:50] <Guile> that kid is so friggin happy to be in his Science Enrichment Center Test Chamber
  615. [2011-11-25 23:21:55] <Arkeus> Yeah
  616. [2011-11-25 23:26:50] <Arkeus> What i want from the goblins for lessons are 'lessons per week'
  617. [2011-11-25 23:28:00] <Arkeus> like, say, 30hrs total of lessons per week in any of the following subjects: permanent item charming, disposable, magical weapons, magical sensing
  618. [2011-11-25 23:28:11] <Arkeus> (30hrs is the total, obviously)
  619. [2011-11-25 23:29:50] <Ironybot> I really think that we should be attempting to gather knowledge on the Istanbul Wyld goblins somewhat more aggressively than we have been. Yes, we have enough working knowledge for day to day operations, but we've been working with them for long enough that I am much inclined to try and get a broader picture.
  620. [2011-11-25 23:30:38] <Grail> I would not object to this
  621. [2011-11-25 23:30:46] <Grail> How would you suggest going about it?
  622. [2011-11-25 23:30:59] <Ironybot> The fact that Arkvad recognized the goblin's identity rather quickly when we mentioned him implies strongly that H&H can provide us with, if nothing else, a more detailed high-level assessment than we have gotten thus far. Given our relationship with Arkvad, it's likely that it wouldn't even cost us much.
  623. [2011-11-25 23:32:10] <Ironybot> Give H&H the rifle parts from the Reaper, at a fair price, of course. If I'm correct, that should impress them and possibly even get them to offer us a job- at the very least, we should get enough cred to get the information on the goblins that we want.
  624. [2011-11-25 23:32:30] <Ironybot> We might also be able to get their aid in reforging the mere properly.
  625. [2011-11-25 23:33:35] <Arkeus> <Ironybot> I really think that we should be attempting to gather knowledge on the Istanbul Wyld goblins somewhat more aggressively than we have been. Yes, we have enough working knowledge for day to day operations, but we've been working with them for long enough that I am much inclined to try and get a broader picture. <= that's why red Caps are good
  626. [2011-11-25 23:34:22] <Arkeus> If the Red Caps can take us to Hobgoblins/etc underground, we might learn more about Wyld goblins
  627. [2011-11-25 23:34:29] <Arkeus> Your theory is good, too
  628. [2011-11-25 23:34:46] <Arkeus> Also, we forgot to get the files on goblins :-(
  629. [2011-11-25 23:37:19] <Grail> Forgot? We weren't present when they were claimed nor did we even know they existed until long after the building was rubble.
  630. [2011-11-25 23:37:22] <Ironybot> What do you mean, "forgot"?
  631. [2011-11-25 23:37:50] <BUTTZ> Hey could a Tamagotchi acquire a soul?
  632. [2011-11-25 23:38:11] <Grail> The only thing you could accuse Armas of there was not specifying select files he could have wanted, but even that could have caused more harm than good
  633. [2011-11-25 23:39:02] <Arkeus> Ironybot: we didn't precise what files we wanted from the russians
  634. [2011-11-25 23:39:19] <Arkeus> we could have, say, said "we want files on Galileo Savoy, Camella, and the Wyld goblins"
  635. [2011-11-25 23:39:37] <Ironybot> We had no real idea what kind of files were in there.
  636. [2011-11-25 23:39:40] <Arkeus> And, yeah, it might have made them waste times
  637. [2011-11-25 23:39:42] <Arkeus> Indeed
  638. [2011-11-25 23:39:46] <Grail> Camella?
  639. [2011-11-25 23:39:53] <Arkeus> We might have tried to talk about preferences though
  640. [2011-11-25 23:39:58] <Arkeus> Yeah, no last name.
  641. [2011-11-25 23:40:01] <Arkeus> Not making it easy
  642. [2011-11-25 23:40:04] <BUTTZ> Camella's big advantage is that she's Zero'd
  643. [2011-11-25 23:40:14] <Grail> You do realize they would likely have no files on her
  644. [2011-11-25 23:40:28] <Arkeus> They got files on us really quickly
  645. [2011-11-25 23:40:31] <Guile> they might have files of Ballerina Camella
  646. [2011-11-25 23:40:34] <Arkeus> Camella fought BB a few times
  647. [2011-11-25 23:40:39] <Arkeus> So they should have files on her
  648. [2011-11-25 23:40:41] <Grail> Over the course of months
  649. [2011-11-25 23:40:47] <Grail> With our expansive web of connections
  650. [2011-11-25 23:40:56] <Grail> And sometimes blatant disregard for subtlety
  651. [2011-11-25 23:41:05] <Arkeus> Grail, They knew about us getting a gun from HH within days
  652. [2011-11-25 23:41:14] <Arkeus> Camella was in istanbul longer than us
  653. [2011-11-25 23:43:38] <Grail> She appeared in Istanbul a month and a half after we did. Most of her time since was spent in recovery from injuries from one thing or another. The biggest thing she's done that could have caught public eye were situations with Blackbeard
  654. [2011-11-25 23:44:04] <Arkeus> I highly doubt she only did that
  655. [2011-11-25 23:44:05] <Grail> And most of that attention would have been diverted onto higher profile people like the Triads she was working with
  656. [2011-11-25 23:44:09] <Arkeus> She has contacts with go ping
  657. [2011-11-25 23:44:13] <Arkeus> teaches at Ito
  658. [2011-11-25 23:44:19] <Arkeus> Etc
  659. [2011-11-25 23:44:32] <Arkeus> Also, keep in mind we were gone for that long from istanbul, too
  660. [2011-11-25 23:44:44] <Arkeus> I think our trip was longer than our stay in istanbul
  661. [2011-11-25 23:45:27] <Grail> Our trip lasted roughly a month and some change
  662. [2011-11-25 23:45:33] <Grail> We were active for two months
  663. [2011-11-25 23:45:55] <Arkeus> yeah, we were active from october to novemnber 27th
  664. [2011-11-25 23:46:07] <Arkeus> and our trip lasted till january 5th
  665. [2011-11-25 23:46:17] <Arkeus> not sure when the game began
  666. [2011-11-25 23:46:43] <Arkeus> Day 1: Armas worked for the Triads as a guard, met Labombard, made his first supernatural kills. [September 27th, 2010] <= huh, two months exactly
  667. [2011-11-25 23:47:04] <TheBeardiestBob> What was the cousin Laine's name? The Einher kid? I'm hoping someone remembers so I don't have to look for it.
  668. [2011-11-25 23:47:38] <Arkeus> iirc Oglaf, checking
  669. [2011-11-25 23:48:00] <TheBeardiestBob> It's either Jyrki or Jussi, I think
  670. [2011-11-25 23:48:33] <Arkeus> suddenly, firefox freezes
  671. [2011-11-25 23:49:11] <Grail> Which kid?
  672. [2011-11-25 23:49:20] <Grail> There was an Otso
  673. [2011-11-25 23:49:48] <Arkeus> Now, let's see, what info do I have on these Laines..... okay, they live in the southwest part of Oulo... I have their address, good.... names, let's see: There's Jyrki Laine, married to Esteri Laine, three kids, one daughter, Kukka, and two boys, Jussi and Otso. Jyrki's in his mid forties, same as Esteri, Kukka's twelve, Jussi's the youngest at eight and Otso's sixteen. Jyrki's is the
  674. [2011-11-25 23:49:49] <Arkeus> manager for a grocery store in Oulo. Esteri's a travel agent, Kukk's got some childish fascination with old british bands, Jussi's doing well academically but not so well in sports... and then there's what I learned about Otso.
  675. [2011-11-25 23:49:57] <Arkeus> Seems he's been getting in fights recently, and Jyrki's voiced some concerns to Arkvad.
  676. [2011-11-25 23:50:08] <Arkeus> here TheBeardiestBob
  677. [2011-11-25 23:50:18] <Arkeus> Also, /me facepalm
  678. [2011-11-25 23:50:21] <Arkeus> OGLAF?
  679. [2011-11-25 23:50:24] <Arkeus> What was i thinking
  680. [2011-11-25 23:50:45] <Ironybot> Argh. Talking to Arkvad about him is still on our to-do list. So many things still to do that are getting neglected as we rush through this day.
  681. [2011-11-25 23:51:16] <Arkeus> Indeed
  682. [2011-11-25 23:51:24] <Arkeus> Ironybot: we might be calling him right now
  683. [2011-11-25 23:51:25] <Ironybot> Talking to Arkvad and disposing of Jidkova are two of the most significant.
  684. [2011-11-25 23:51:35] <Arkeus> And checking the blood
  685. [2011-11-25 23:51:39] <Arkeus> is it BB's?
  686. [2011-11-25 23:51:43] <Arkeus> we havn't even asked Amen
  687. [2011-11-25 23:51:47] <Arkeus> well, we tried to
  688. [2011-11-25 23:52:01] <Ironybot> Checking the blood is pointless now. We SHOULD have asked Amen before we ever gave it to the Red Caps, but that somehow didn't happen.
  689. [2011-11-25 23:52:12] <BUTTZ> Check this out: http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1322285819770.jpg
  690. [2011-11-25 23:53:20] <Ironybot> Well, I suppose it's not entirely pointless, but seeing as we're about to see the Red Caps and they will certainly know whose blood it was, it wouldn't give us that much of an edge.
  691. [2011-11-25 23:53:43] <Arkeus> Ironybot: Amen could get us money info from BB
  692. [2011-11-25 23:53:46] <Arkeus> or other stuff
  693. [2011-11-25 23:53:49] <Arkeus> like his contacts
  694. [2011-11-25 23:57:07] <Ironybot> Yes, but at this point either he's dead and we won't be getting that because the Red Caps ate his brain, Blackbeard has successfully gotten behind wards or otherwise protected himself from blood magic, or it can wait until after our dinner with the Red Caps when they will tell us that they didn't get him.
  695. [2011-11-25 23:57:56] <Ironybot> Although if they didn't get him, then they might not show up for dinner due to being dead themselves. They're serious bruisers, but then Blackbeard is no slouch.
  696. [2011-11-25 23:58:41] <Arkeus> Well, BB lost a arm
  697. [2011-11-25 23:58:49] <Arkeus> and they are REALLY serious bruisers
  698. [2011-11-25 23:59:03] <Arkeus> as in, stronger than einrik Serious bruisers
  699. [2011-11-25 23:59:37] <Arkeus> If they are full of blood, and the conditions are right, they can get to mach 10+
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