[2016-01-03 19:50:03] <TidB> Bojjob: While you're here, you might want to check if you can add anything further to [[User talk:Victory#Painted variants]] as Victory seems to ignore both Ashes' and Kelvin's arguments and you're the go-to person on images. If there's anything that you can make to clarify why Victory's edits are not as useful as he thinks, it'd help if you'd add it there. Anyway, I think you made your...
[2016-01-03 19:50:03] <Spacenet> User talk:Victory#Painted variants: http://wiki.tf/User_talk:Victory%23Painted_variants
[2016-01-03 19:50:04] <TidB> ...point clear already, but it could help.
[2016-01-03 19:51:31] <Bojjob> wow I didn't expect it to get this out of hand
[2016-01-03 19:51:32] <Bojjob> hmmm
[2016-01-03 19:54:49] <Bojjob> there
[2016-01-03 19:55:00] <Spacenet> [RC] m User talk:Victory by Bojjob - http://wiki.tf/d/2028888 (+525) (/* Painted variants: http://j.mp/1Oq4HPB */) (00:54:47) [Via Pandora]
[2016-01-03 19:59:47] <TidB> LordKelvin already planned reverting the images later but I think in this case it's justified. Nobody cares if it's the exact same angle in every article imo.
[2016-01-03 20:00:02] <darkid> it's hardly a 'nobody cares'
[2016-01-03 20:00:08] <darkid> it's a 'should we or should we not'
[2016-01-03 20:00:17] <darkid> imo it's not worth it
[2016-01-03 20:00:36] <darkid> i.e. consistency is not worth the individual thought / clarity of read
[2016-01-03 20:00:44] <Bojjob> i know right
[2016-01-03 20:00:57] <Bojjob> you can't get consistency if every hat is painted in a different way
[2016-01-03 20:00:59] <darkid> well it would take like 4-5 counter examples to argue it
[2016-01-03 20:01:01] <Bojjob> that makes no sense
[2016-01-03 20:01:04] <darkid> that's not what I mean
[2016-01-03 20:01:08] <darkid> well maybe
[2016-01-03 20:01:17] <darkid> nvm, yes that was my point
[2016-01-03 20:01:22] <darkid> paint is not visible by default
[2016-01-03 20:04:32] <Bojjob> the ones that look weird even before she updated em, I'll leave them and make my own ones for
[2016-01-03 20:04:41] <Bojjob> like the sola topi
[2016-01-03 20:05:22] <darkid> it's a good moment to think about some form of consistency, even if that consistency is "What shows off the paint best"
[2016-01-03 20:05:52] <Bojjob> I think it should be whatever shows the paint off the best
[2016-01-03 20:06:10] <Bojjob> because having them all facing the same way will miss certain parts out on certain cosmetics
[2016-01-03 20:06:25] <darkid> this being the primary concern, yes
[2016-01-03 20:06:48] <TidB> That's what Kelvin already pointed out with an example cosmetic, but Victory discarded it as "cherry-picking"
[2016-01-03 20:07:46] <Bojjob> wow man
[2016-01-03 20:08:28] <darkid> that's why I said we needed 4-5 examples
[2016-01-03 20:45:17] <TidB> darkid: Bojjob: Some counterexamples for Victory. Only Scout-Heavy, but I think that's enough for now.
[2016-01-03 20:45:18] <TidB> Item images similar to Victory's, losing focus on the paint: [[Cross-Comm Express]], [[DethKapp]] ("Stern" style), [[Smoking Skid Lid]] (they might need to be redone)
[2016-01-03 20:45:18] <Spacenet> Cross-Comm Express: http://wiki.tf/Cross-Comm_Express / DethKapp: http://wiki.tf/DethKapp / Smoking Skid Lid: http://wiki.tf/Smoking_Skid_Lid
[2016-01-03 20:45:20] <TidB> Items that *would* lose their focus on paint if redone with Victory's consistency method: [[El Jefe]] (possibly), [[Front Runner]], [[Stereoscopic Shades]], [[Gothic Guise]], [[Macabre Mask]], [[Dictator]], [[One-Man Army]], [[Soviet Gentleman]], [[Trash Man]]
[2016-01-03 20:45:20] <Spacenet> El Jefe: http://wiki.tf/El_Jefe / Front Runner: http://wiki.tf/Front_Runner / Stereoscopic Shades: http://wiki.tf/Stereoscopic_Shades / Gothic Guise: http://wiki.tf/Gothic_Guise / Macabre Mask: http://wiki.tf/Macabre_Mask / Dictator: http://wiki.tf/Dictator / One-Man Army: http://wiki.tf/One-Man_Army / Soviet Gentleman:
[2016-01-03 20:45:20] <Spacenet> http://wiki.tf/Soviet_Gentleman / Trash Man: http://wiki.tf/Trash_Man