23:31 -!- Alf [mibbit@16b4fba6.35556308.13e0fa6.12ed360dX] has joined #credens
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23:31 < Enigmatic_Fellow> 'ello Alf
23:32 <!Alf> Hello
23:33 < Enigmatic_Fellow> so, how are you feeling right now?
23:36 < Serafina> hiyo
23:36 <!Alf> Survivable
23:37 < Enigmatic_Fellow> so, how are we going to advance from here?
23:45 <!Alf> Well, Seraph said he wanted to save Sakura?
23:46 < Enigmatic_Fellow> he did?
23:48 <!Alf> Didn't he?
23:48 <!Alf> Ok, so Zouken has agreed. He would prefer to be left in peace for the moment, but gives Seraph a way to contact him at need
23:48 <!Alf> He inquires if Serafina will be able to leave without being spotted by the Servants outside
23:48 <!Alf> What do you wish to use Zouken for, EF?
23:50 < Enigmatic_Fellow> hmm, I wish to use him to seal AM
23:50 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and we can do it using NRVNQSR if we distract the Church
23:51 < Enigmatic_Fellow> which is something I might be able to do
23:51 < Serafina> [20:45] <Enigmatic_Fellow> he did? < I did.
23:51 < Enigmatic_Fellow> also, we should have Zouken take him back to where he needs to go without notifying Assassin
23:51 < Enigmatic_Fellow> by him I mean Serafina
23:52 < Serafina> As I recall, the plan was getting Team Einzbern help for the prana and Zouken on how to seal away AM
23:52 < Enigmatic_Fellow> though I'm not sure how we're going to be able to get the help of the Einzbern
23:52 < Enigmatic_Fellow> Zouken was a bit risky as is
23:53 < Enigmatic_Fellow> my plan involves having the Church attack Irisviel in order to end the HGW
23:53 < Enigmatic_Fellow> since Saber is accompanying her, they would need all the resources they can get
23:53 <!Alf> Church attack Irisviel, huh?
23:53 < Enigmatic_Fellow> thus, they would be distracted while Zouken seals AM
23:54 <!Alf> Well, depends. If they can get some Servant class person to engage Saber temporarily
23:54 < Enigmatic_Fellow> It's a simple enough plan if I can manage to convince the Church to do it
23:54 <!Alf> ...both Assassin and Kotomine are expert killers
23:54 < Enigmatic_Fellow> well, they do have Ciel
23:54 <!Alf> Indeed
23:54 < Serafina> @EF we kinda need the prana.
23:54 < Serafina> unless we can get it from another source
23:55 <!Alf> The problem is that Ciel + Kotomine team up may well actually defeat them
23:55 < Enigmatic_Fellow> we already have Gilgamesh's soul
23:55 < Serafina> [20:54] <Enigmatic_Fellow> we already have Gilgamesh's soul < in Iris.
23:55 < Enigmatic_Fellow> hmm
23:55 < Enigmatic_Fellow> perhaps we can have Kiritsugu killed
23:56 < Enigmatic_Fellow> that way, Iris will be forced to contract with Saber
23:56 < Enigmatic_Fellow> with Kiri gone
23:56 < Enigmatic_Fellow> we lose the most troublesome part of team Einzbern
23:56 < Enigmatic_Fellow> though they will be suspicious of any party that would eliminate him
23:56 < Enigmatic_Fellow> the biggest problem is the prana needed
23:57 < Enigmatic_Fellow> we need some way to procure prana, would that be correct?
23:57 <!Alf> Yes
23:58 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and Gil's soul is currently in Iris, right?
23:58 <!Alf> I mean, I suppose you could do what HF5 Caster did
23:58 <!Alf> Yes
23:58 < Enigmatic_Fellow> with the Church around, I don't think HF5 Caster plan will work all that well
23:58 < Serafina> why not just talk with with Team Einzbern first?
23:58 < Serafina> whats HF5 Caster plan?
23:59 < Enigmatic_Fellow> siphon prana from everyone in the city
23:59 < Serafina> would it threaten the secret of magic?
23:59 < Enigmatic_Fellow> not really
23:59 < Enigmatic_Fellow> but the Church might not like the side effect of it
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00:00 < Enigmatic_Fellow> remember those gas leaks
00:00 < Enigmatic_Fellow> that was all HF5 Caster's doing
00:00 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and we would also need a major leyline to do it
00:02 < Enigmatic_Fellow> though I suppose that we could do it at a slower rate, but that would mean that we wouldn't get as much prana per time period
00:02 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and we would still need a major leyline to do it on in order to use the spell
00:02 <@Elyonee> ohey
00:03 <@Elyonee> its an alf
00:03 <@Elyonee> and while I'm here even
00:03 <!Alf> The temple has one
00:03 <!Alf> That's part of what the Greater Grail draws from
00:04 <!Alf> hmm
00:04 <!Alf> Indeed
00:04 <!Alf> How rare
00:04 <!Alf> But yeah, so you need Iris' body right now, is that right?
00:05 < Enigmatic_Fellow> It appears that way
00:05 < Enigmatic_Fellow> so my initial plan seems to need either some major revisioning or just needs to be discarded
00:05 <@Elyonee> dohohoho
00:05 < Enigmatic_Fellow> such is life
00:06 < Serafina> did you forget that I didn't take in gil soul?
00:06 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I just had a brainfart and thought the soul was already in the Greater Grail
00:06 < Enigmatic_Fellow> an oversight on my part
00:07 < Enigmatic_Fellow> so we got two options: get Iris or siphon prana from leylines and the citizens of Fuyuki
00:08 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I could move with Caster to the temple in order to siphon prana from it, but we're not going to be able to get a workable amount of prana without getting it from the people as well
00:09 < Enigmatic_Fellow> as for getting to Iris, that would be hard in itself unless we communicate by having Casko hijack one of Irisviel's familiars
00:10 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and there's still the element known as Kiritsugu
00:11 < Enigmatic_Fellow> we could possibly occupy him by sending Kirei into his direction, but I'm not sure if Kirei values meeting Kiri over his duty as an executor
00:11 <!Alf> Now that the Church is here, he'd answer to them
00:11 < Enigmatic_Fellow> my thoughts as well
00:12 <!Alf> I mean, you not only have the HGW
00:12 <!Alf> But you know...Chaos
00:12 < Enigmatic_Fellow> they're kind of a big deal to the Church
00:12 < Enigmatic_Fellow> DAAs that is
00:12 <!Alf> DAA with a chance to get a wish
00:13 <!Alf> Upon a vessel capable of destroying most of the world
00:13 <!Alf> Hmm
00:13 < Enigmatic_Fellow> we could also just end the war and come up with a smoother plan to deal with the Grail
00:13 <!Alf> You could, yes
00:14 <!Alf> Keep in mind that the Church is likely to take drastic measures if necessary in this case
00:14 < Enigmatic_Fellow> like going to the lesser Grail and destroying it kind of measures?
00:15 < Enigmatic_Fellow> or something even more drastic?
00:15 <!Alf> Even more drastic, if necessary
00:15 < Enigmatic_Fellow> well, without the lessear Grail, Chaos cannot use the ritual to get a wish
00:16 <!Alf> True enough. If they know where Iris is
00:16 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and that information can be provided
00:16 <!Alf> Their options - eliminate Chaos, eliminate Iris
00:16 <!Alf> Eliminate Fuyuki
00:16 < Enigmatic_Fellow> well, one option is easier than the others
00:17 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and that would be eliminating Iris
00:17 < Enigmatic_Fellow> it's either tackle a DAA and his powerful Servant
00:17 < Enigmatic_Fellow> or tackle a homunculus and a Servant guarding her
00:17 <!Alf> And what if the DAA decides to help the homunculus?
00:18 < Enigmatic_Fellow> true enough
00:18 <!Alf> An honorable knight can hardly attack a benefactor
00:18 <!Alf> Even if the benefactor isn't human
00:18 < Enigmatic_Fellow> then things would go out of control
00:19 < Enigmatic_Fellow> as always, the situation proves to be rather delicate
00:19 <!Alf> Indeed
00:20 <!Alf> Its not an easy situation
00:20 < Enigmatic_Fellow> perhaps we can just collect prana for now while we figure out a way of communicating with Iris
00:20 < Enigmatic_Fellow> that way, we don't invest too heavily in any one plan
00:20 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and if one plan bears more fruit than the other, we can simply put all our efforts into it
00:22 < Enigmatic_Fellow> of course, having team Einzbern on board would be preferable, but we should also be able to adapt if that plan fails
00:22 <!Alf> And you'll be assigning Casko to the temple then?
00:24 < Enigmatic_Fellow> It's something we might have to do if gathering prana is of the utmost importance
00:25 < Enigmatic_Fellow> another way to bolster prana stores is to do the Kirei method
00:25 < Serafina> @EF that sounds like a good idea.
00:25 < Enigmatic_Fellow> it wouldn't be as overt, though it does leave unpleasant evidence
00:26 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and as a healer, I can easily do it
00:26 <!Alf> Ah, the Kirei method...and where is the supply of orphans?
00:26 < Enigmatic_Fellow> we just pick up random stragglers
00:26 < Serafina> slowly gather prana while gathering info and waiting for a oppurtinty.  I suppose in the mean time, I can also prepare about the actual ask of using that prana for dealing with AM
00:26 < Enigmatic_Fellow> people that no one would miss
00:27 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I don't think such people are short of supply
00:27 < Enigmatic_Fellow> if one is willing to search hard enough
00:28 <!Alf> Ah, criminals and other scum of society
00:29 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I suppose there's also the Tohnos if we need to get more juice
00:29 < Enigmatic_Fellow> but that would attract quite a bit of attention
00:30 <!Alf> Indeed
00:31 <!Alf> The problem isn't really getting some people - but enough people for prana
00:31 <!Alf> If you want to be vigilantes, feel free
00:31 < Enigmatic_Fellow> true enough
00:31 < Enigmatic_Fellow> it's not so much being vigilantes
00:31 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I just want people that won't be missed
00:31 < Enigmatic_Fellow> don't want to garner too much attention
00:31 < Serafina> Japan has a low crime rate though.
00:32 < Enigmatic_Fellow> criminals aren't the only ones available
00:32 <!Alf> You're in a city with the mob
00:32 < Enigmatic_Fellow> staggering drunks in the night
00:32 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and hobos are also viable
00:32 <!Alf> Perverts on trains too
00:33 < Serafina> [21:32] <!Alf> Perverts on trains too < So all we have to do is just have me, Ely, and Casko go on a train in pretty clothes and we get perverts by the dozens? =V
00:33 < Enigmatic_Fellow> hypnotism is also a viable option if that approach is taken
00:33 <!Alf> Casko in a schoolgirl outfit? Yeah, that woudl get it
00:34 < Enigmatic_Fellow> just as long as we can gather enough people to get an appreciable amount of prana
00:35 -!- Mangafreak7793 [webchat@de6498d.ba95af8.fios.verizon.net] has joined #credens
00:35 < Mangafreak7793> Hey I made it
00:35 <!Alf> "And in a curious case, the NEETs vanished"
00:35 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I think Japan would celebrate over that
00:35 < Mangafreak7793> How are you doing guys, and Alf long time no see
00:35 < Enigmatic_Fellow> NEETs aren't all that liked over there
00:35 < Enigmatic_Fellow> or anywhere for that matter
00:35 <!Alf> Indeed, manga. Long time. I think I'm just across the river from your state now
00:36 <!Alf> True enough
00:36 < Enigmatic_Fellow> in fact, Japan tends to hide any incovenient information
00:37 < Mangafreak7793> Oh really!
00:37 < Enigmatic_Fellow> anyways, we could get an appreciable amount of prana if we gather a natural amount from the leylines while also collecting it from prana batteries
00:37 < Mangafreak7793> Like in New York or something?
00:38 < Mangafreak7793> BTW Are you going to comiccon this year, I missed you last year was hoping for this one to be different
00:39 <!Alf> Philly
00:39 < Serafina> http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/File:Castertails.jpg < Oh.  This is interesting.  Each of other tail of Casko became their own servant.
00:39 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I remember her saying that she can produce an army for each of her tails
00:39 < Enigmatic_Fellow> or something of the sort
00:41 <!Alf> She said she could originally create a million troops
00:42 < Serafina> I suppose that variant of that then
00:42 < Enigmatic_Fellow> interesting information, though not really pertinent at the current situation
00:43 < Enigmatic_Fellow> unless its using troops to gather subjects
00:46 < Mangafreak7793> so what's the plan are we playing today?
00:46 < Enigmatic_Fellow> well, what we need to do is gather prana
00:46 < Enigmatic_Fellow> we can either use Iris to do it
00:46 < Enigmatic_Fellow> or we have to gather it from some other method
00:47 < Mangafreak7793> insert type-moon sex joke "here"
00:47 < Enigmatic_Fellow> currently, I plan on going with Casko to establish a workshop there
00:47 < Enigmatic_Fellow> sorry manga, but sex doesn't solve all problems even in the Nasuverse
00:47 <!Alf> I hope you're not hoping Casko will sleep with the city and succubus her way out of this
00:48 < Mangafreak7793> of course not
00:48 < Serafina> I think the sex solving problems only works for saber =V
00:48 < Mangafreak7793> tough crowd today
00:48 < Enigmatic_Fellow> indeed
00:48 < Enigmatic_Fellow> the succubus method is far too inefficient
00:49 < Serafina> anyway, can Casko make a workshop?
00:49 < Enigmatic_Fellow> especially if there's a more direct method
00:49 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I don't think workshops were ever her specialty
00:49 < Enigmatic_Fellow> it's just not really suited for her
00:49 <!Alf> If there's an existing bounded field, she can tweak it
00:49 < Enigmatic_Fellow> though I can set one up easily enough and she can support it via charms and other such enchantments
00:50 <!Alf> Yeah
00:50 <!Alf> She doesn't really like the being contained thing
00:50 < Mangafreak7793> What do I do in the meantime?
00:50 < Enigmatic_Fellow> accompany Kohaku?
00:50 < Mangafreak7793> Babysit/Train?
00:51 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I guess so
00:51 <!Alf> Be a vigilante
00:51 <!Alf> Strike down criminals
00:51 <!Alf> In the name of the moon
00:51 < Enigmatic_Fellow> we can give him a cape
00:51 <!Alf> In the name of the eggplant mushroom!
00:51 < Serafina> @Alf I take Zouken needed time to adjust to remembering everything?
00:51 < Mangafreak7793> You know I'm seriously considering the idea
00:51 <!Alf> That's correct, Serafina.
00:51 <!Alf> He had his memory forcibly restored
00:52 < Enigmatic_Fellow> chances are he's going to look at what he done to Sakura
00:52 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and freak out
00:52 <!Alf> And is dealing with massive dissonance right now
00:52 < Enigmatic_Fellow> he did exactly what the Makiri did
00:52 < Enigmatic_Fellow> that whole thing he detested
00:52 < Serafina> [21:51] <Enigmatic_Fellow> chances are he's going to look at what he done to Sakura < more like what he did to his family
00:52 < Enigmatic_Fellow> he threw it all away
00:52 < Mangafreak7793> I guess, we're going to start our own babysitting service
00:52 < Serafina> Think of how he treated Kariya?
00:53 < Enigmatic_Fellow> that's hardly the only thing he has to think about
00:53 < Serafina> just saying its one of many.  beyojnd just Sakura
00:53 < Enigmatic_Fellow> indeed
00:53 < Serafina> in a way Kariya is a reflectation of his younger self.  minus the whole obessed on revenge part
00:53 < Enigmatic_Fellow> he transformed into the thing he was fighting himself
00:54 < Enigmatic_Fellow> as for Kariya, he just couldn't grow up
00:54 < Enigmatic_Fellow> he remained obsessed with a woman far after she was married
00:54 < Serafina> [21:54] <Enigmatic_Fellow> he remained obsessed with a woman far after she was married < kinda reminds of Zouken and Justica
00:55 < Mangafreak7793> Indeed
00:55 < Enigmatic_Fellow> only Justica was never taken
00:55 < Enigmatic_Fellow> it was more likely a case of simply not caring
00:56 < Serafina> true
00:56 < Mangafreak7793> btw what was Kohaku's magic power now after my small training session
00:57 < Enigmatic_Fellow> well, Alf told me she has a strong affinity with life
00:57 < Enigmatic_Fellow> hence why she's so good at animating origami
00:57 <!Alf> Yes, hence the animation of the various things, like the paper
00:57 < Serafina> [21:56] <Enigmatic_Fellow> well, Alf told me she has a strong affinity with life < that makes sense.
00:57 <!Alf> She'll be good with animating things in the future
00:57 <!Alf> Or becoming a necromancer
00:58 < Enigmatic_Fellow> but I thought I was taking the latter already
00:58 < Serafina> [21:57] <!Alf> She'll be good with animating things in the future < she actually makes the paper 'alive' rather just animating it?
00:58 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I already have a wraith army planned out
00:58 < Mangafreak7793> Yeah, if possible going to steer her away from that
00:58 < Enigmatic_Fellow> well Manga
00:58 < Mangafreak7793> anything involving the dead or reviving that never a good thing
00:58 <!Alf> In a sense, its like breathing life into it - temporary life
00:58 < Enigmatic_Fellow> once one becomes a magus, one discards any chance of having a normal life
00:59 < Enigmatic_Fellow> remember that manga
00:59 <!Alf> ...she'd also be a good healer
00:59 < Mangafreak7793> I'm okay with that
00:59 < Enigmatic_Fellow> oh the coincidences
00:59 < Enigmatic_Fellow> she has a very similar list of abilities to my own
01:00 < Mangafreak7793> true, but I'm still the naive type so I rather she has other hobbies besides revenge/magecraft
01:00 < Serafina> [21:58] <Mangafreak7793> anything involving the dead or reviving that never a good thing < you read too much Western Fantasy
01:01 < Enigmatic_Fellow> perhaps manga never heard of hermits
01:01 < Mangafreak7793> those old guys that live alone?
01:01 < Enigmatic_Fellow> there's a variety of ways to become one
01:02 <!Alf> Hermit vs Philosopher
01:02 <!Alf> The two paths you can take if sealed
01:02 < Enigmatic_Fellow> though I wasn't really talking about the MA sense
01:02 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I was referring to the Eastern definition
01:02 <!Alf> Ah, yes, true
01:03 <!Alf> @Serafina - she will also work well with fire
01:03 < Enigmatic_Fellow> one of the few differences from me
01:04 < Mangafreak7793> I can teach her how to blow stuff up?
01:04 < Enigmatic_Fellow> combustion does fall under the realm of fire
01:04 < Mangafreak7793> so what's happening now?
01:05 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I'm guessing Zouken escorts Serafina out of the cavern
01:05 <!Alf> Zouken agreed to cooperate, but needs a bit of space because Justica used magic and made him remember all ofhis old ideals and such
01:05 <!Alf> Sure - and to where?
01:05 <!Alf> At least you know what became of Berserker now
01:05 < Enigmatic_Fellow> either to Jon or the Edelfelt manor
01:06 < Enigmatic_Fellow> though I think Jon would be a safer option
01:06 < Enigmatic_Fellow> since Serafina is associated with him
01:06 <!Alf> And not with you, yet
01:07 < Enigmatic_Fellow> indeed
01:07 < Enigmatic_Fellow> we don't want to reveal such connections needlessly
01:07 <!Alf> Jon and Rider would be at the temple
01:07 < Enigmatic_Fellow> that should be saved for opportune moments
01:07 < Enigmatic_Fellow> so I guess they'll be heading to they temple then
01:08 <!Alf> Currently conversing with Assassin
01:08 < Enigmatic_Fellow> from Kirei's perspective, team Jon just made some sort of deal/agreement with the Matou
01:08 -!- Yun [mibbit@211e61ee.76b3cfb.or.comcast.net] has joined #credens
01:08 < Yun> Hm?
01:08 < Enigmatic_Fellow> not exactly unexpected since they do need to all ally together against a greater threat
01:08 < Enigmatic_Fellow> hello Yun
01:08 <!Alf> Good timing
01:10 <!Alf> Indeed, and Assassin at the moment is just trying to gather intel and such
01:10 <!Alf> He's appearing openly to Jon because they chatted before
01:11 < Enigmatic_Fellow> so there should really be no suspicion with simple deals being made
01:11 < Enigmatic_Fellow> after all, Kirei did much the same
01:11 <!Alf> Indeed so
01:12 < Mangafreak7793> Where am I now, I forgot since we haven't played in awhiel
01:12 < Enigmatic_Fellow> with a perfect alibi, we can sneak anything we don't want Kirei to know right under his Servant's face
01:12 < Enigmatic_Fellow> @managa, you're over at the Edelfelt estate watching over Kohaku
01:12 < Yun> You're at the mansion with zlol, and Caster
01:13 < Mangafreak7793> right, I rmemeber now
01:13 <!Alf> Unless he's the untrusting sort who actually has another out for recon
01:13 < Enigmatic_Fellow> perhaps
01:14 < Enigmatic_Fellow> but if that's the case, we already crossed the bridge
01:14 <!Alf> Indeed
01:14 < Yun> Anyways what now?
01:14 < Enigmatic_Fellow> we can't afford to have Caster go along since that would be stretching our resources too soon
01:14 < Enigmatic_Fellow> @Yun, Zouken and Serafina are heading to your direction
01:15 < Enigmatic_Fellow> now that I think about it, Zouken might have an easier time spotting Assassin
01:15 < Enigmatic_Fellow> due to his affinity with Hassan
01:15 < Yun> That was in nature not ability so I doubt it.
01:16 < Enigmatic_Fellow> true enough
01:16 <!Alf> Justica would be able to sense them, for obvious reasons
01:16 < Enigmatic_Fellow> well either way, Zouken and Serafina are heading to Jon's location
01:16 < Enigmatic_Fellow> @Alf, understandable
01:17 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and if she felt like she was being watched, she might have been a bit more frugal with her information
01:17 < Enigmatic_Fellow> implicit messages work well with partners that been together for quite a while
01:18 <!Alf> Indeed
01:19 <!Alf> And she got her message across well enough
01:20 <!Alf> So, plans? Further interaction with Assassin, or bid him good night and let him know frankly that you're not doing anything else tonight
01:21 < Serafina> I don't have any plans for interacting with Assassin.
01:21 < Yun> Nothing comes to mind so I'd think the latter.
01:22 < Serafina> And since Zouken needs coping time, which I can feel for, I don't have much other plans for the moment.
01:22 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and since we're all under an implicit ceasefire, I should be able to claim the temple without resistance
01:22 < Serafina> inquiring about Sakura is not the best time.
01:22 <!Alf> Probably not, no
01:22 <!Alf> The guy is dealing with a lot right now
01:22 <@Elyonee> that sounds like a terrible plan
01:22 < Enigmatic_Fellow> which plan are you talking about, Elyrin?
01:22 <@Elyonee> sakura
01:23 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I think we should let Zouken deal with his own problems
01:23 < Enigmatic_Fellow> remember that he is a changed man
01:23 < Enigmatic_Fellow> one that detests typical magus behaviour
01:25 < Serafina> [22:22] <@Elyonee> sakura < what part of it?
01:25 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I would assume the 'meddling in the affairs of a magus patriarch'
01:25 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I don't think it's a good way of currying favor
01:25 < Yun> Bringing up the topic at all.
01:26 <!Alf> Don't bring it up
01:26 <!Alf> Its not War related
01:26 < Enigmatic_Fellow> Zouken is a bit fragile right now
01:26 <!Alf> And will get him wondering how you even know
01:26 < Yun> Anyways moving on.
01:26 < Enigmatic_Fellow> just keep the relationship professional
01:27 < Yun> Agreed.
01:28 < Enigmatic_Fellow> so, should Casko and I move to the temple and leave everyone else over at the manor?
01:28 < Enigmatic_Fellow> the stuff we'll be doing there will be a bit dangerous
01:28 <!Alf> You can do so
01:28 <!Alf> Going to the main temple - or down into the caves?
01:29 < Enigmatic_Fellow> main temple would probably be a better position
01:29 < Enigmatic_Fellow> no matter how much Casko may feel uncomfortable in a Buddhist temple
01:29 < Yun> Aren't the monks there gone for some reason?
01:30 < Enigmatic_Fellow> that would be in Signum
01:30 < Yun> I see.
01:30 < Enigmatic_Fellow> though removing them can be easily arranged
01:30 < Enigmatic_Fellow> make them go on a religious pilgramage or something
01:30 < Serafina> [22:26] <Enigmatic_Fellow> Zouken is a bit fragile right now < Obviously,  I'm saying that I won't bring it up right because of that.  nor will I bring it up at random
01:31 < Enigmatic_Fellow> @Serafina, I think you should just let Zouken handle his own family affairs
01:31 < Serafina> @EF for now, I'm just doing a wait & see.
01:32 < Serafina> I have yet to actually plan any sort of actions.
01:33 < Enigmatic_Fellow> that aside, I'll have Casko siphon prana from the Temple's main leyline while I devise a method of taking subjects
01:33 < Serafina> So EF and Casko runs into us at the temple then?
01:33 <!Alf> You could delay it
01:33 <!Alf> Unless you're all meeting up there
01:34 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I would only do that if we have a reason of meeting up with Assassin
01:34 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and I might have found a reason for doing so
01:34 <!Alf> Oh?
01:34 < Enigmatic_Fellow> to assure them that I'm not going against them
01:35 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and if they ask about what I 'commanded' Casko to do to Tohska
01:35 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I can claim that Archer was too unruly a Servant to have in such a delicate situation
01:36 < Enigmatic_Fellow> no doubt he would have done something rash after such a humiliating defeat
01:36 < Enigmatic_Fellow> then again, why even meet up with Assassin in the first place
01:36 < Enigmatic_Fellow> there might be more risk than reward in such a confrontation
01:37 < Serafina> [22:35] <Enigmatic_Fellow> I can claim that Archer was too unruly a Servant to have in such a delicate situation < such irony.  particularly back during my conversation with Assassin
01:37 < Enigmatic_Fellow> indeed
01:37 < Enigmatic_Fellow> Serafina can be so cruel
01:37 < Serafina> well if I do meet up with EF and Casko, I be tempted to chat with them but then I rather not expose our assiocation just yet
01:38 < Serafina> [22:37] <Enigmatic_Fellow> Serafina can be so cruel < wha? =o
01:38 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and to imagine that you would normally argue against me in making such a decision
01:38 <@Elyonee> why so mean sera
01:38 <@Elyonee> you never even talk to poor kyle anymore
01:38 <@Elyonee> ;_;
01:39 < Enigmatic_Fellow> Kyle is a bad boy
01:39 <@Elyonee> am nooot
01:39 < Enigmatic_Fellow> doesn't that mean he should be able to attract women?
01:39 < Serafina> [22:38] <@Elyonee> you never even talk to poor kyle anymore < Because you have that girlfriend?  And we haven't run into each other yet.
01:39 < Enigmatic_Fellow> you pretty much traveled with a DAA and looted a corpse
01:40 <@Elyonee> damned rumours
01:40 <@Elyonee> ef is this your doing
01:40 < Serafina> though, if it makes you feel better, my tentative plans for the next day or two is cking on all of you in person.   Assuming that is even possible.
01:40 <!Alf> Sure its possibl
01:40 <!Alf> e
01:40 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I must be a skilled illusionist if I can make all those familiars see such an image, Elyrin
01:40 < Serafina> [22:40] <!Alf> Sure its possibl < I don't mean in the physical sense.
01:40 <@Elyonee> aren't you though
01:40 <@Elyonee> like I don't even remember what anyone does anymore
01:41 <@Elyonee> other than manga makes bombs
01:41 < Serafina> @Elyonee I'm like Sion and Iris in abilities.
01:41 < Enigmatic_Fellow> @Elyrin, I heal, manipulate ice and water, and do soul stuff
01:41 < Serafina> with a little bit of Fraga on the side
01:41 <@Elyonee> okay!
01:42 < Serafina> or should I be more specific?
01:42 <@Elyonee> good enough
01:42 <!Alf> http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/1520-Fate-Credens-Justitiam-%28IC%29?p=706573&viewfull=1#post706573
01:42 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and Yun does earth manipulation and enforcer stuff
01:43 < Enigmatic_Fellow> his most devestating ability is a counter attack spell
01:43 <@Elyonee> mm
01:43 <@Elyonee> maybe one day I'll get to use my killsat
01:43 < Enigmatic_Fellow> Lianru is a dual nature user of water and fire
01:44 < Enigmatic_Fellow> @Elyrin, if you have a killsat, then I will have a spectral army
01:44 <!Alf> Elyonee can animate things - and call down an anti-fortress level blast. Once
01:44 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and more importantly, a bunker
01:45 <!Alf> Another fun trick
01:45 <!Alf> Making objects hot in someone's hands
01:45 < Enigmatic_Fellow> anyways, Casko and I will be setting up shop over in the temple tomorrow
01:46 < Enigmatic_Fellow> meanwhile, we need to figure out a way to not only contact Iris, but what to discuss with her about
01:47 <!Alf> A good idea, that
01:47 <!Alf> And who will be going?
01:48 < Enigmatic_Fellow> Casko and I are a definite choice
01:48 < Enigmatic_Fellow> as for the others
01:48 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I think we should leave Manga behind with Kohaku
01:48 <!Alf> Serafina, Elyonee, etc?
01:48 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and maybe we should take Elyrin and Sola with us
01:48 <@Elyonee> I have the most ridiculous target still painted directly on my head
01:48 < Enigmatic_Fellow> with Casko around, they won't be able to know he's associated with me
01:49 < Enigmatic_Fellow> she has the ability to disrupt familiars from spying her
01:49 < Serafina> what are people thoughts on me meeting with Iris?  or should I do something else?
01:49 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and she can also tranform Elyrin and Sola to better hide them while we're out in the open
01:49 <!Alf> That is true. Being associated with Chaos doesn't help things
01:50 < Serafina> mmm...may need to meet with zouken again later.  dunno
01:50 <!Alf> You probaby want to give him at least a few hours
01:51 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I would wait until at least nightfall of the next day before contacting him
01:51 < Enigmatic_Fellow> he needs the time
01:52 <!Alf> Yeah
01:52 <!Alf> Let the man reflect on his deed
01:52 <!Alf> s
01:52 < Enigmatic_Fellow> he can handle his own issues
01:52 <!Alf> And what would ELyonee and Sola like to look like?
01:54 <@Elyonee> hmmm
01:55 < Enigmatic_Fellow> maybe go all out with a sex change?
01:55 <@Elyonee> :|
01:56 < Serafina> [22:51] <Enigmatic_Fellow> he needs the time < I mean, after he is done, he may want to speak with me.  or Justica
01:57 < Enigmatic_Fellow> @Serafina, that would be fine if that were the case
01:57 < Serafina> @Elyone you prefer being a trap?
01:58 < Yun> So Serafina, and Jon will be waiting for Zouken to finish reflecting on his deeds.
01:58 <@Elyonee> yes, I do D:
01:59 < Enigmatic_Fellow> meanwhile, Casko, Elyrin, Sola, and I trek to the temple
02:00 <!Alf> Is this after everyone splits?
02:00 < Enigmatic_Fellow> yep
02:00 < Enigmatic_Fellow> as in everyone in the temple?
02:01 < Mangafreak7793> I thought i was in the manor?
02:01 < Enigmatic_Fellow> you are in the manor, manga
02:01 <!Alf> You are in the manor. I meant Yun/Sera
02:01 <!Alf> WHo were at temple
02:01 <@Elyonee> basically manga we're sitting around playing pokemon wait for things to happen
02:02 <!Alf> Or flirting or who knows what
02:02 <@Elyonee> :|
02:02 <!Alf> Did you talk anything else over with Sola?
02:02 <@Elyonee> I haven't done anything in I don't know how long
02:02 <@Elyonee> so not yet no
02:03 < Enigmatic_Fellow> iirc, they were exchanging pillow talk
02:03 <!Alf> And did anyone want to seek chaos?
02:03 < Enigmatic_Fellow> not atm
02:03 < Enigmatic_Fellow> he can handle things himself
02:03 < Enigmatic_Fellow> we'll contact him if we need to
02:03 <@Elyonee> the last thing I did was say hi to you and caster EF
02:03 <@Elyonee> :|
02:04 < Enigmatic_Fellow> oh yeah
02:04 < Yun> 23:01IAlfIYou are in the manor. I meant Yun/Sera<-If I didn't limit my alcohol consumption to mealtimes I'd be tempted to turn this into a drinking game.
02:04 < Enigmatic_Fellow> you mean the amount of times manga keeps asking where he's at?
02:04 <!Alf> Haha
02:05 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I think whoever was playing that drinking game would be shit-faced by that point
02:06 < Enigmatic_Fellow> that is if it were shots that were being taken
02:06  * Alf takes another shot
02:06 < Mangafreak7793> Sorry, i'm barely keeping up with the conversattion
02:06  * Elyonee slaps Mangafreak7793 around a bit with a large trout
02:06 < Enigmatic_Fellow> well, it is moving fast
02:07 < Enigmatic_Fellow> anyways, do you have an idea of what Sola might want to look like?
02:08 <@Elyonee> no
02:08 < Yun> Anyways moving on was there anything in particular you wanted to do while we're waiting on Zouken Seraph?
02:08 <@Elyonee> :D
02:08 < Enigmatic_Fellow> or would Casko be taking full control in that matter
02:08 <!Alf> Either one works
02:08 <!Alf> We could make her look like an edelfelt
02:09 < Enigmatic_Fellow> that might be a bit too conspicious
02:09 < Enigmatic_Fellow> especially with the Church about
02:10 < Enigmatic_Fellow> taking on the visage of recognizable families might not be wise
02:10 < Enigmatic_Fellow> especially if the aforementioned families start asking questions
02:10 < Enigmatic_Fellow> and chances are that the Edelfelt are watching the events in Fuyuki
02:11 <!Alf> Make her look like http://kailitos.galeon.com/rei.jpg ?
02:11 < Enigmatic_Fellow> that can work
02:11 < Mangafreak7793> I;m fine with that....
02:14 < Mangafreak7793> though will she like turning from red to blue?
02:15 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I don't really care about what she thinks about the matter as long as no one notices her
02:16 <!Alf> Or maybe make her a LIanru double
02:16 < Enigmatic_Fellow> as long as she doesn't look like anyone recognizable
02:17 < Enigmatic_Fellow> though I rather minimize the amounts of doubles we have
02:17 <!Alf> True enough
02:17 < Enigmatic_Fellow> so having her look like Rei would likely be a better idea
02:17 <!Alf> To much confusion potential
02:17 <@Elyonee> don't be silly
02:18 <@Elyonee> we don't have enough white haired girls and other people who look like white haired girls
02:18 < Serafina> [23:07] <Yun> Anyways moving on was there anything in particular you wanted to do while we're waiting on Zouken Seraph? < atm, I have no plans on what do right now.
02:18 <!Alf> If you guys want to keep talking amongst yourselves for a while that's fine, just send ma a PM at the end of it
02:19 < Serafina> how many white haired girls do we have?
02:19 <!Alf> 2 that are actually girls
02:19 <!Alf> Elyrin is a trap
02:20 < Enigmatic_Fellow> anyways, I'm assuming that Manga and Kohaku stays in the manor while Casko communicates with her whenever she dreams
02:22 <!Alf> Ok
02:22 <!Alf> I need to sleep
02:22 <!Alf> Just update m
02:22 <!Alf> Indeed
02:22 <!Alf> Unless you want to go out
02:23 < Enigmatic_Fellow> kk
02:23 < Enigmatic_Fellow> night Alf
02:23 < Yun> 23:18ISerafinaI[23:07] atm, I have no plans on what do right now. <- Well the only thing that comes to mind is using the the time to relax, and lower your stress levels since I'd expect having Justica take over, and talking with Zouken were both rather stressful events.
02:23 < Yun> Night Alf
02:25 < Mangafreak7793> night
02:25 < Enigmatic_Fellow> as for taking zlol with us, it can go either way
02:25 < Enigmatic_Fellow> he might be able to help
02:25 < Enigmatic_Fellow> though he might better serve being with Manga and Kohaku
02:25 < Enigmatic_Fellow> to provide some extra security
02:25 < Serafina> so myself, Lianru, and Elyrin(as a trap).
02:27 < Enigmatic_Fellow> though I wonder if I can go all Kayneth on the temple with all the bounded fields he set up on it
02:27 < Enigmatic_Fellow> even if I can, it would probably take quite a while for me to do so
02:27 < Yun> Nowhere near enough room to do so.
02:28 < Enigmatic_Fellow> the temple itself isn't that big
02:28 < Enigmatic_Fellow> true enough
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02:33 < Enigmatic_Fellow> so basically, Jon and Assassin will conclude their conversation when Serafina and Zouken arrive.
02:34 < Enigmatic_Fellow> meanwhile, I'll take Casko, Elyrin, and Sola to the temple and set up a workshop there.
02:34 < Yun> Anyways anything else we need to talk about?
02:34 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I basically summerized what we agreed over so far to see if anyone did not get what we discussed
02:35 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I take it from the lack of comment that everyone got the gist of it
02:36 < Yun> Zouken, and Serafina's meeting took place at midnight did Alf comment how long it took?
02:37 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I don't think he did
02:41 < Yun> @Serafina Did you want to go directly back to the hotel to get some rest or wander around the town?
02:42 < Yun> @EF Nothing in particular.
02:42 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I need to rest soon
02:42 < Yun> k
02:42 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I'll post a log of this over in the OoC thread and provide a synopsis
02:42 < Serafina> I'm incline to head back to hotel.
02:43 < Yun> Go get some sleep EF
02:43 < Serafina> but then I don't mind wandering.