***Lord_Gareth rubs the sleep out of his eyes
 Lord_Gareth: Agata, if you're going to be yourself all over my thread can you make even a token fucking effort to be on-topic?
 Lord_Gareth: That was rude and you know it
 Agata: Creating a new thread to direct others to would not have done much good.
 Lord_Gareth: Doesn't. Matter.
 Lord_Gareth: That was excessively, deliberately, and unforgivably fucking rude.
 Agata: It was a lose-lose situation either way, and I had opted to minimize losses.
 Anise: For whom?
 Agata: For me. It also did not seem that out-of-line compared to the GURPS discussion. I simply wished to clear up a tangent and be done with it.
 Anise: Thing is though
 Anise: the thread wasn’t about you, or about Strike
 Anise: it was about Dawnborn
 Agata: I did not think it would be a good idea to create a new thread to direct others to.
 CelestialDoggie: it's not a good idea to deposit six to eight posts about a completely unrelated system that nobody wants to see, either
 Agata: Yes, hence the lose-lose situation. I thought it would be the lesser of two evils.
 CelestialDoggie: there's always a third choice
 CelestialDoggie: "don't"
 Agata: That would have been even worse due to simply allowing the misinformation to stand.
 CelestialDoggie: no, it would have been fine
 Agata: I doubt it.
 CelestialDoggie: there are times when you just have to cut your losses and run
 Bellezza: I need to get in better shape to do that, though
 Agata: This was, in fact, the process of "cutting the losses."
 Anise: Agata, posting exclusively about a game that you have a vested interest in promoting due to having worked on it in a thread made to discuss another system is both scummy as hell and incredibly disrespectful
 Anise: Please try to respect the people in this channel, at a bare minimum
 Agata: The discussion was already in place and had moven towards unproductive ends.
 Agata: I seem to have silenced it, so if anything, that is progress.
 CelestialDoggie: not really
 Agata: I do not promote the system in question /tg/. I only clear up any misconceptions that may arise anywhere.
 Agata: It is not worth dedicating a thread to.
 Bellezza: Nor continuing to derail a thread
 CelestialDoggie: and even *if* that was the end goal, there are ways to do it that don't involve, as mentioned, 6-8 walls of text
 Anise: You realize the thread’s now about you arguing with people telling you not to shill Strike, right?
 Anise: still not about Dawnborn.
 Agata: It would have been so even without my intervention. I aimed to minimize such unproductive discussion.
 Lord_Gareth: You aimed poorly and with your eyes closed.
 Agata: Better that than to not take aim at all.
 Anise: No, if you hadn’t spent the entirety of the the thread talking about strike and about how it was totally okay to talk about strike
 Agata: I had not spent the "entirety" of the thread.
 Anise: Is that the best defense you have for your actions?
 Agata: No; my previous statements are.
 rebel_rebel: So let me get this straight.
 rebel_rebel: Anon comes in to shill for some system I've never heard of, which is already off topic and incredibly fucking rude.
 rebel_rebel: Then Agata comes in and corrects him, thereby perpetuating said rude, obnoxious derail, for the sake of communicating properly about this thing that's off topic.
 rebel_rebel: That about it or I missing something here?
 CelestialDoggie: "corrects" in the sense of, as said, 6-8 walls of text
 Agata: Yes.
 rebel_rebel: Alright.
 Agata: I thought it would be best to not create a new thread and direct others there (because that never seems to work), and I could not abide the misinformation.
 Bellezza: The best response would've been to let it go
 rebel_rebel: I can understand that but frankly your choosing to clear it up led to perpetuating the derail, significantly.
 Agata: Absolutely not.
 Bellezza: Misinfo happens, if you don't want to create a thread to clear it up then don't post at all if it's not on topic
 Rainydaze left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 240 seconds).
 Agata: Letting such lie would have been even worse.
 rebel_rebel: But it would have been infinitely less rude.
 rebel_rebel: Regardless of if misinformation was spread about the system, continuing to talk about it is rude, and doing so at length, over many posts, is /spectacularly obnoxious/.
 rebel_rebel: I don't feel like that's a particularly outlandish thing to say.
 Agata: I would rather be rude and administer the least of three evils than to apply one of the greater evils.
 rebel_rebel: Honestly fam it ain't your thread.
 rebel_rebel: You don't decide what's the lesser 'evil' in this case.
 Agata: Nor did I claim it to be.
 Bellezza: Apparently a lot of people disagree on which was "least evil"
 Agata: <rebel_rebel> You don't decide what's the lesser 'evil' in this case.
 Agata: If I was to simply let the misinformation stand, that would have been making my decision right then and there.
 aethon [~steven@Rizon-90B6CDE9.socal.res.rr.com] entered the room.
 rebel_rebel: I'm saying you don't arbit for everyone else.
 rebel_rebel: Don't play word games with me.
 rebel_rebel: Regardless, it's over now.
 Anise: doesn’t matter, thread’s dead now
 Agata: That logic does not exclude me from clearing up something that concerns me.
 rebel_rebel: You know you keep asserting that what you did was the lesser of the three evils but you've yet to explain how.
 rebel_rebel: Your defense of your actions very clearly speaks that you value the proper perception of some random RPG over the focus and atmosphere of your friends' threads.
 rebel_rebel: That's kinda messed up man.
 Agata: 1. Letting misinformation lie simply allows it to settle into others' mindsets.
 Agata: 2. Creating a new thread and telling others to move there if they wish to criticize or elucidate a system most likely would have caused no actual migration.
 Agata: 3. Thus, addressing the misinformed points directly was my best option.
 rebel_rebel: You are terrible at arguing.
 Bellezza: This isn't going to go anywhere. Agata, don't assist (even with good intentions) in derailing threads, please.
 rebel_rebel: Can we please drop it?
 Bellezza: Now I'm going to go make my roux
 Agata: <rebel_rebel> Your defense of your actions very clearly speaks that you value the proper perception of some random RPG over the focus and atmosphere of your friends' threads.
 Agata: Yes, particularly when they are not my friends to begin with. Acquaintances, contacts, persons I have met, certainly, but not friends.
 Agata: Very well.
 rebel_rebel: Are you done? I don't mean that to snip, I legit can't tell.
 rebel_rebel: We good?
 rebel_rebel: This over now?
 CelestialDoggie: it's over
 Agata: Done with what?
 rebel_rebel: I'll take that as yes.