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  1. [2013-02-16 15:04:17] <Jirachee> workshop pls
  2. [2013-02-16 15:04:18] <penguinx> 9.9
  3. [2013-02-16 15:04:22] <penguinx> fuq off
  4. [2013-02-16 15:04:25] <TCD> hi
  5. [2013-02-16 15:04:25] <Funkasaurus> lol
  6. [2013-02-16 15:04:31] <Honus> u nigga
  7. [2013-02-16 15:04:36] <ium> ok
  8. [2013-02-16 15:04:37] <ium> let's rate
  9. [2013-02-16 15:04:38] <ium> an nu team
  10. [2013-02-16 15:04:40] <Jirachee> n
  11. [2013-02-16 15:04:41] <ficcion> no
  12. [2013-02-16 15:04:42] <ium> then
  13. [2013-02-16 15:04:43] <ium> dont
  14. [2013-02-16 15:04:43] <Honus> lets rate ium
  15. [2013-02-16 15:04:46] <Honus> ^o^
  16. [2013-02-16 15:04:47] <ium> highlight me fat man jirachi
  17. [2013-02-16 15:04:49] <ium> >:|
  18. [2013-02-16 15:04:50] <ium> i am
  19. [2013-02-16 15:04:51] <Funkasaurus> ium is a 4/10
  20. [2013-02-16 15:04:52] <Jirachee> >:(
  21. [2013-02-16 15:04:52] <ium> useless otherwise
  22. [2013-02-16 15:04:57] <ium> funkasarusu is a :| / 10
  23. [2013-02-16 15:04:59] <Honus> ium made a lickilicky picture
  24. [2013-02-16 15:05:00] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> How about this team: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479119
  25. [2013-02-16 15:05:02] <ium> funkasaurus*
  26. [2013-02-16 15:05:03] <Honus> 14/10
  27. [2013-02-16 15:05:05] <Honus> ez mash
  28. [2013-02-16 15:05:09] <ium> karpman is a 9.9/10
  29. [2013-02-16 15:05:21] <ium> 9.9
  30. [2013-02-16 15:05:22] <Honus> 9.9
  31. [2013-02-16 15:05:46] <Jirachee> ok so anyone wants a team to be rated
  32. [2013-02-16 15:05:49] <ium> ok
  33. [2013-02-16 15:05:51] <ium> rate
  34. [2013-02-16 15:05:52] <ium> my nu team
  35. [2013-02-16 15:05:53] <ium> before it dies
  36. [2013-02-16 15:05:58] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> How about this team: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479119
  37. [2013-02-16 15:06:06] <Honus> lots of gifs/10
  38. [2013-02-16 15:06:22] <ium> jirachee http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3478886
  39. [2013-02-16 15:06:23] <ium> y/y
  40. [2013-02-16 15:06:27] <Honus> but i looked at it and it seems a bit volc weak, he'd probably want to put a scarf on either lando or kelder
  41. [2013-02-16 15:06:31] <Jirachee> n
  42. [2013-02-16 15:06:32] <Honus> and then unscarf or i guess keep tar
  43. [2013-02-16 15:06:44] <ium> :|
  44. [2013-02-16 15:06:45] <Honus> ium the logo is rad
  45. [2013-02-16 15:06:47] <Jirachee> ok let's rate the team tnt linked
  46. [2013-02-16 15:06:50] <Honus> :|
  47. [2013-02-16 15:06:50] -->| BlackRussian (Mibbit@synIRC-7D64DA6.dyn.centurytel.net) has joined #ratemyteam
  48. [2013-02-16 15:07:05] <ium> some jirachis just want to watch the world burn
  49. [2013-02-16 15:07:15] <ficcion> yea
  50. [2013-02-16 15:07:16] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Yuss.
  51. [2013-02-16 15:07:27] <BlackRussian> is this the Rate my team workshop?
  52. [2013-02-16 15:07:28] <TGMDoom> laggyass GIFs
  53. [2013-02-16 15:07:34] <Jirachee> yes blackrussian
  54. [2013-02-16 15:07:35] <ium> yes
  55. [2013-02-16 15:07:41] <BlackRussian> ok cool
  56. [2013-02-16 15:07:53] <Jirachee> do you want a team of yours to be rated?
  57. [2013-02-16 15:07:54] <ium> that's not
  58. [2013-02-16 15:07:55] <Honus> post a team if you want it rated :o
  59. [2013-02-16 15:07:57] <ium> a lot of gifs
  60. [2013-02-16 15:08:00] <ium> you are
  61. [2013-02-16 15:08:00] <ium> silly
  62. [2013-02-16 15:08:01] <BlackRussian> I have one
  63. [2013-02-16 15:08:02] <Honus> theres like 7
  64. [2013-02-16 15:08:07] <ium> 7 isnt bad
  65. [2013-02-16 15:08:09] <ium> :(
  66. [2013-02-16 15:08:09] <Honus> and theyre around the size of a stoutland
  67. [2013-02-16 15:08:16] <ium> jirachee is mean... refuses to r8 mine
  68. [2013-02-16 15:08:17] <Honus> it is when ps has been lagging your computer all day
  69. [2013-02-16 15:08:18] <ium> u_u
  70. [2013-02-16 15:08:20] <BlackRussian> Do I make a Pastebin for it?
  71. [2013-02-16 15:08:25] <Jirachee> yeah
  72. [2013-02-16 15:08:33] <Jirachee> just pb the importable
  73. [2013-02-16 15:08:34] <TGMDoom> ok that's really laggy
  74. [2013-02-16 15:08:37] <TGMDoom> yeah
  75. [2013-02-16 15:08:58] <BlackRussian> http://mibpaste.com/3eYHiK
  76. [2013-02-16 15:09:02] <BlackRussian> there
  77. [2013-02-16 15:09:11] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> ium, we can rate your team once joshe's has been rated [i.e. if everyone else approves].
  78. [2013-02-16 15:09:11] <Honus> Woooosh
  79. [2013-02-16 15:09:18] <Jirachee> tnt
  80. [2013-02-16 15:09:22] <Jirachee> ium's team is nu
  81. [2013-02-16 15:09:25] <Jirachee> 9.9
  82. [2013-02-16 15:09:29] <ium> :)
  83. [2013-02-16 15:09:33] <Jirachee> alright so
  84. [2013-02-16 15:09:33] <ium> (:
  85. [2013-02-16 15:09:38] <ium> jirachi has
  86. [2013-02-16 15:09:40] <ium> extensive knowledge
  87. [2013-02-16 15:09:45] <ium> of the tier
  88. [2013-02-16 15:10:12] <Jirachee> Landorus-T / Lucario / Latias / Rotom-W / Heatran / Hydreigon
  89. [2013-02-16 15:10:55] <ficcion> ium i just noticed on ur rmt
  90. [2013-02-16 15:10:58] <ficcion> "costello music"
  91. [2013-02-16 15:10:59] <ficcion> :D
  92. [2013-02-16 15:11:12] <BlackRussian> am I first?
  93. [2013-02-16 15:11:20] <Honus> yea
  94. [2013-02-16 15:11:21] <ium> :O
  95. [2013-02-16 15:11:30] <ficcion> i like that album a lot
  96. [2013-02-16 15:11:38] <Jirachee> honestly
  97. [2013-02-16 15:11:39] <ficcion> cool tunes~
  98. [2013-02-16 15:11:47] <Jirachee> I don't feel like scarf hydreigon
  99. [2013-02-16 15:11:51] <Jirachee> is really effective
  100. [2013-02-16 15:11:57] <BlackRussian> I dont either
  101. [2013-02-16 15:12:01] <Honus> i agree
  102. [2013-02-16 15:12:02] <Jirachee> I think you could really use a faster scarfer
  103. [2013-02-16 15:12:07] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Forum link for BlackRussian's team: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479261
  104. [2013-02-16 15:12:09] <Honus> team seems a bit passive for offense too
  105. [2013-02-16 15:12:10] <TGMDoom> ^
  106. [2013-02-16 15:12:14] <Jirachee> yeah
  107. [2013-02-16 15:12:17] <BlackRussian> I want to change it but idk what to use
  108. [2013-02-16 15:12:35] <Jirachee> you like kinda weak to stuff like
  109. [2013-02-16 15:12:39] <Jirachee> volc+dug
  110. [2013-02-16 15:12:50] <Jirachee> on sun teams
  111. [2013-02-16 15:12:56] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Keldeo seems like a good option for Scarfer. Beats Volc+Dug.
  112. [2013-02-16 15:12:59] <Funkasaurus> jirachee
  113. [2013-02-16 15:13:00] <Funkasaurus> look
  114. [2013-02-16 15:13:00] <Honus> id consider ditching heatran and using a scarfer than can beat volc
  115. [2013-02-16 15:13:02] <Funkasaurus> a workshop
  116. [2013-02-16 15:13:02] <Funkasaurus> !
  117. [2013-02-16 15:13:05] |<-- Raseri has left irc.synirc.net (Quit: death)
  118. [2013-02-16 15:13:06] <Honus> since latias beats every other sun mon
  119. [2013-02-16 15:13:07] <TGMDoom> not under sun
  120. [2013-02-16 15:13:09] <Honus> well not every other
  121. [2013-02-16 15:13:13] <Jirachee> keldeo doesn't really beat volc+dug
  122. [2013-02-16 15:13:26] <TGMDoom> which is where you find vold dug
  123. [2013-02-16 15:13:29] <Jirachee> unless it's rain volc+dug
  124. [2013-02-16 15:13:30] <BlackRussian> Why ditch Heatran?
  125. [2013-02-16 15:13:42] <TGMDoom> and volc somtimes has giga drain so lol
  126. [2013-02-16 15:13:42] <BlackRussian> I needed something to wall Volc
  127. [2013-02-16 15:13:43] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Touche.
  128. [2013-02-16 15:13:54] <Honus> yeah but what else does it do for the team
  129. [2013-02-16 15:14:02] <Honus> plus it kills any momentum really
  130. [2013-02-16 15:14:14] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> IMO, Heatran leaves one massive hole that rain teams can use against you.
  131. [2013-02-16 15:14:19] <BlackRussian> thats true
  132. [2013-02-16 15:14:23] -->| PryorConvictions (~PC@Pryor.Convictions) has joined #ratemyteam
  133. [2013-02-16 15:14:26] <Honus> that too
  134. [2013-02-16 15:14:33] <Jirachee> yeah heatran doesn't really help your team
  135. [2013-02-16 15:14:39] <Jirachee> other than taking draco meteors
  136. [2013-02-16 15:14:41] <TGMDoom> I don't like tran as any kind of volc check
  137. [2013-02-16 15:14:49] <TGMDoom> due to hp ground and dug
  138. [2013-02-16 15:14:58] <penguinx> u-turn volc + dug
  139. [2013-02-16 15:14:59] <penguinx> too good
  140. [2013-02-16 15:15:11] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Besides, Volc can run HP Ground, and that's pretty damn common IIRC.
  141. [2013-02-16 15:15:45] -->| BKC (~BKC@synIRC-AF700BA9.cust.centrio.cz) has joined #ratemyteam
  142. [2013-02-16 15:15:45] <Porygon2> [BKC] put in position to wage teenage mayhem
  143. [2013-02-16 15:15:45] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +o BKC by Porygon2
  144. [2013-02-16 15:15:48] <TGMDoom> it is
  145. [2013-02-16 15:15:55] |<-- AFKC has left irc.synirc.net (Ping timeout)
  146. [2013-02-16 15:16:21] <BlackRussian> ok so Heatran can be replaced.
  147. [2013-02-16 15:16:26] |<-- DTC has left irc.synirc.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  148. [2013-02-16 15:16:27] <Jirachee> yea although
  149. [2013-02-16 15:16:29] <BlackRussian> but what to use instead
  150. [2013-02-16 15:16:32] <Jirachee> if you replace heatran
  151. [2013-02-16 15:16:33] -->| pockaway (Mibbit@synIRC-9145C377.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #ratemyteam
  152. [2013-02-16 15:16:38] <Honus> maybe something to help luke
  153. [2013-02-16 15:16:42] <Jirachee> you need something that beats special drags
  154. [2013-02-16 15:16:53] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Terrakion can act as a great check to Volc, but again, there's the issue of what to replace. It also serves as a great offensive complement to Luke.
  155. [2013-02-16 15:17:04] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Jirachi beats special drags.
  156. [2013-02-16 15:17:08] <Honus> also dugtrio bai ti guess
  157. [2013-02-16 15:17:10] <Honus> :|
  158. [2013-02-16 15:17:31] <Jirachee> scarf terra works if you're able to keep your rocks on the field
  159. [2013-02-16 15:17:51] <Jirachee> you can use like
  160. [2013-02-16 15:17:58] <Jirachee> scarf terra over hydreigon
  161. [2013-02-16 15:18:11] <Jirachee> you get a much faster scarfer and a volcarona check
  162. [2013-02-16 15:18:21] <BlackRussian> ok Scarf Terrak
  163. [2013-02-16 15:18:28] <BlackRussian> over hydreigon
  164. [2013-02-16 15:18:37] <Jirachee> and
  165. [2013-02-16 15:18:43] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> He has Landorus-T to set SR up, so Jirachi can run something like Iron Head / BSlam / Wish / U-turn if he wants to use Jirachi in the first place.
  166. [2013-02-16 15:18:51] <Jirachee> you should probably get rid of heatran
  167. [2013-02-16 15:18:52] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Just saying.
  168. [2013-02-16 15:19:02] <Jirachee> idk if jirachi fits the team the best
  169. [2013-02-16 15:19:13] <ficcion> of course u fit
  170. [2013-02-16 15:19:16] <Honus> you might wan tto consider running some form of spikes
  171. [2013-02-16 15:19:24] <Honus> so a hipp0wdon or ttar cant ruin lucarios sweep
  172. [2013-02-16 15:19:31] <Honus> otherwise its usually a cold stop
  173. [2013-02-16 15:19:33] <Honus> scarftar
  174. [2013-02-16 15:19:34] <Honus> that is
  175. [2013-02-16 15:19:38] <Jirachee> yeah
  176. [2013-02-16 15:19:39] <Honus> sorry
  177. [2013-02-16 15:19:46] <Jirachee> scarftar is kinda rare though
  178. [2013-02-16 15:19:48] <Jirachee> but
  179. [2013-02-16 15:19:51] <Honus> or at least some way to pressure those two
  180. [2013-02-16 15:19:54] <TGMDoom> you'd want 2 layers of spikes for hippo
  181. [2013-02-16 15:19:55] <Honus> nah i see it everywhere lol
  182. [2013-02-16 15:19:57] <Honus> im using one
  183. [2013-02-16 15:19:59] <Honus> its owning
  184. [2013-02-16 15:20:07] <TGMDoom> need it under 80% for +2 cc range
  185. [2013-02-16 15:20:19] <Jirachee> for +2 jolly?
  186. [2013-02-16 15:20:21] <Jirachee> or adamant
  187. [2013-02-16 15:20:30] <TGMDoom> adamant
  188. [2013-02-16 15:20:35] <Jirachee> he's jolly luke
  189. [2013-02-16 15:20:38] <Jirachee> .-.
  190. [2013-02-16 15:20:41] <TGMDoom> if it's jolly you'd need all layers,
  191. [2013-02-16 15:20:43] <TGMDoom> iirc
  192. [2013-02-16 15:20:49] <Honus> oh heres an idea
  193. [2013-02-16 15:20:54] <Honus> maybe try a calm mind jirachi
  194. [2013-02-16 15:21:10] <Honus> it works cooepratively with lucarioa gainst hippowdon
  195. [2013-02-16 15:21:12] <Honus> against*
  196. [2013-02-16 15:21:15] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> WishCM, or SubCM?
  197. [2013-02-16 15:21:23] <BKC> superachi
  198. [2013-02-16 15:21:25] <BKC> with grass knot
  199. [2013-02-16 15:21:31] <BKC> if you want to beat up hippowdon
  200. [2013-02-16 15:21:31] <Jirachee> yeah superachi is great
  201. [2013-02-16 15:21:33] <Honus> that would be rad actually
  202. [2013-02-16 15:21:34] <BlackRussian> hold on lost
  203. [2013-02-16 15:21:35] <BKC> wishcm or subcm jira
  204. [2013-02-16 15:21:39] <BlackRussian> im lost
  205. [2013-02-16 15:21:40] <BKC> just outright lose
  206. [2013-02-16 15:21:56] <Jirachee> another thing that could be used
  207. [2013-02-16 15:21:59] <Jirachee> is pivot scizor
  208. [2013-02-16 15:22:00] <BlackRussian> I looked away for a sec now im behind
  209. [2013-02-16 15:22:03] -->| harsha (st@len.by.a.silent.crowd) has joined #ratemyteam
  210. [2013-02-16 15:22:04] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +o harsha by Porygon2
  211. [2013-02-16 15:22:05] |<-- pockaway has left irc.synirc.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  212. [2013-02-16 15:22:06] <BlackRussian> what did I miss
  213. [2013-02-16 15:22:14] <Jirachee> we were discussing
  214. [2013-02-16 15:22:18] <Jirachee> what you should use
  215. [2013-02-16 15:22:21] <Jirachee> instead of heatran
  216. [2013-02-16 15:22:26] <BlackRussian> oh ok
  217. [2013-02-16 15:22:29] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> @BlackRussian: We're looking into Heatran replacements.
  218. [2013-02-16 15:22:35] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Oh, ninja'd.
  219. [2013-02-16 15:22:38] <BlackRussian> so Terrakion is good over Hydreigon?
  220. [2013-02-16 15:22:41] <Jirachee> yep
  221. [2013-02-16 15:22:47] <BlackRussian> what moveset?
  222. [2013-02-16 15:22:52] <Jirachee> scarf
  223. [2013-02-16 15:22:56] <BlackRussian> the smogon one?
  224. [2013-02-16 15:23:02] <Jirachee> yea
  225. [2013-02-16 15:23:06] <BlackRussian> ok
  226. [2013-02-16 15:23:19] <Jirachee> with cc se x-s rs
  227. [2013-02-16 15:23:53] =-= BKC is now known as AFKC
  228. [2013-02-16 15:23:58] <Jirachee> so
  229. [2013-02-16 15:24:05] <Jirachee> about the heatran replacement
  230. [2013-02-16 15:24:15] <Jirachee> it needs to beat special dragons
  231. [2013-02-16 15:24:27] <Jirachee> cm rachi looks nice
  232. [2013-02-16 15:24:42] <Jirachee> but I think pivot scizor could fit too
  233. [2013-02-16 15:24:59] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> BKC's Superachi looks cool.
  234. [2013-02-16 15:25:18] =-= ctiamAFK is now known as CTI
  235. [2013-02-16 15:26:05] <Jirachee> ok then
  236. [2013-02-16 15:26:09] <Jirachee> jirachi it is
  237. [2013-02-16 15:26:17] <BlackRussian> so Cm Jirachi?
  238. [2013-02-16 15:26:21] <Jirachee> yea
  239. [2013-02-16 15:26:28] <Jirachee> use
  240. [2013-02-16 15:26:37] <Jirachee> cm psychic hp fire grass knot
  241. [2013-02-16 15:26:46] <BlackRussian> what EV's?
  242. [2013-02-16 15:27:12] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
  243. [2013-02-16 15:27:14] <Jirachee> modest leftovers with enough speed to outspeed max speed toxicroak
  244. [2013-02-16 15:27:21] <Jirachee> so 295 speed
  245. [2013-02-16 15:27:23] <Jirachee> stat
  246. [2013-02-16 15:27:42] <BlackRussian> ok makes sense
  247. [2013-02-16 15:27:47] <Cow_Moolester> dont listen to jirachee
  248. [2013-02-16 15:27:50] <Cow_Moolester> he roots for the mtl canadiens
  249. [2013-02-16 15:27:54] <BlackRussian> so the rest of the is solid
  250. [2013-02-16 15:27:57] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +b *!*@synIRC-34576B83.bstnma.fios.verizon.net by Jirachee
  251. [2013-02-16 15:27:58] =-= Cow_Moolester was booted from #ratemyteam by YOU (Jirachee)
  252. [2013-02-16 15:28:04] <ficcion> lol
  253. [2013-02-16 15:28:05] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Oh. Personally, I think that max / max is the way to go. I'll pull some EVs up.
  254. [2013-02-16 15:28:11] <Honus> who is/was that user
  255. [2013-02-16 15:28:15] <Jirachee> s_l
  256. [2013-02-16 15:28:19] <Honus> ah
  257. [2013-02-16 15:28:21] <Honus> sup bro
  258. [2013-02-16 15:28:24] <Jirachee> nm bro u
  259. [2013-02-16 15:28:25] <ficcion> nm bro u
  260. [2013-02-16 15:28:44] <Jayde> nm bro u
  261. [2013-02-16 15:28:47] <Jirachee> ok
  262. [2013-02-16 15:28:58] <Jirachee> the rest of the team looks nice
  263. [2013-02-16 15:29:04] <Honus> yes :D
  264. [2013-02-16 15:29:08] <BlackRussian> ok cool
  265. [2013-02-16 15:29:16] <Honus> one thing though
  266. [2013-02-16 15:29:23] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> BlackRussian, here's an EV spread that you should use for Jirachi: 12 HP / 252 SpA / 244 Spe Modest.
  267. [2013-02-16 15:29:25] <Honus> what are you trying to accomplish specifically with latias?
  268. [2013-02-16 15:29:34] <BlackRussian> were you looking at the pastebin or the RMT?
  269. [2013-02-16 15:29:39] <Honus> pb
  270. [2013-02-16 15:29:40] <Jirachee> pb
  271. [2013-02-16 15:29:40] <Honus> sorry
  272. [2013-02-16 15:29:44] <BlackRussian> ok good
  273. [2013-02-16 15:29:55] <BlackRussian> cuz thats the up to date one
  274. [2013-02-16 15:29:59] <Honus> i guess i can see the merit sof thunder wave but are there any mons its hitting specifically?
  275. [2013-02-16 15:30:05] <Honus> otherwise you may want to try the dmeteor lo one
  276. [2013-02-16 15:30:13] <Honus> has a lot more offensive presence
  277. [2013-02-16 15:30:15] <Jirachee> yeah
  278. [2013-02-16 15:30:17] <Honus> also nukes hippos
  279. [2013-02-16 15:30:20] <Honus> ttars too i guess
  280. [2013-02-16 15:30:21] <Honus> ;o
  281. [2013-02-16 15:30:23] <Jirachee> n
  282. [2013-02-16 15:30:27] <Jirachee> you lose to tar
  283. [2013-02-16 15:30:38] <Honus> still dents
  284. [2013-02-16 15:30:40] <Honus> w/ surf
  285. [2013-02-16 15:30:41] <Jirachee> yea
  286. [2013-02-16 15:30:43] <BlackRussian> Latias was bait for TTar
  287. [2013-02-16 15:30:55] <BlackRussian> so I can send in Luke to set u
  288. [2013-02-16 15:30:55] <Honus> ah
  289. [2013-02-16 15:30:56] <BlackRussian> up*
  290. [2013-02-16 15:31:07] <Honus> well i think you might want to try out th elo attacker set
  291. [2013-02-16 15:31:08] <Honus> on the site
  292. [2013-02-16 15:31:23] <BlackRussian> for Latias?
  293. [2013-02-16 15:31:23] <Honus> its pretty po_owerful
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  295. [2013-02-16 15:31:25] <Honus> yeah
  296. [2013-02-16 15:31:42] <BlackRussian> all right ill give it look and try it out
  297. [2013-02-16 15:32:25] <BlackRussian> Jirachi: 12 HP / 252 SpA / 244 Spe Modest or 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
  298. [2013-02-16 15:32:40] <Jirachee> you don't really need max speed
  299. [2013-02-16 15:32:56] <Jirachee> nothing runs base 100 252 neutral
  300. [2013-02-16 15:33:23] <BlackRussian> so which spread?
  301. [2013-02-16 15:33:42] <Jirachee> 244 spe
  302. [2013-02-16 15:33:56] <BlackRussian> ok cool
  303. [2013-02-16 15:34:06] <BlackRussian> thanks ill test the team now
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  305. [2013-02-16 15:34:31] <Jirachee> anyone got another team to be rated?
  306. [2013-02-16 15:34:38] =-= CL_away is now known as complete_legitimacy
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  308. [2013-02-16 15:34:54] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +h Pirates_vs_Ninjas by Porygon2
  309. [2013-02-16 15:35:27] <TGMDoom> sorry I went afk there for a bit
  310. [2013-02-16 15:35:37] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Hey, can someone keep me up to date with what we're rating?
  311. [2013-02-16 15:35:39] <TGMDoom> ctc was taking down taylor for spl
  312. [2013-02-16 15:35:57] <Jirachee> tnt we don't have a team yet
  313. [2013-02-16 15:36:01] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> My laptop decided to spaz out for a second. Okay, thanks.
  314. [2013-02-16 15:36:02] <BlackRussian> we just finished with my team
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  316. [2013-02-16 15:36:22] <Jirachee> we can rate this one I guess
  317. [2013-02-16 15:36:23] <Jirachee> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479299
  318. [2013-02-16 15:36:25] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Cool.
  319. [2013-02-16 15:37:24] <Jirachee> deo-d / gengar / luke / loom / jolteon / terra
  320. [2013-02-16 15:37:29] <Jirachee> ok so
  321. [2013-02-16 15:37:31] <Jirachee> this team
  322. [2013-02-16 15:37:33] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Timid w/ 0 Attack IVs > Jolly on Deo-D should be the first change.
  323. [2013-02-16 15:37:40] <Jirachee> gets raped by starmie
  324. [2013-02-16 15:37:44] <TGMDoom> is the guy that made the team here?
  325. [2013-02-16 15:37:48] <Jirachee> n
  326. [2013-02-16 15:37:50] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> No.
  327. [2013-02-16 15:37:58] <Jirachee> starmie fucks that team so bad
  328. [2013-02-16 15:38:05] <Jirachee> it spins easily
  329. [2013-02-16 15:38:09] <Honus> sun and rain teams
  330. [2013-02-16 15:38:15] <Honus> drop enormous mixtapes on it
  331. [2013-02-16 15:38:16] <Jirachee> and actually checks 5/6 of his mons
  332. [2013-02-16 15:38:16] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Modest Volc ruins him.
  333. [2013-02-16 15:38:19] <Honus> politoed specs hpump spam
  334. [2013-02-16 15:38:22] <Honus> volcaronas
  335. [2013-02-16 15:38:24] <Honus> victinis
  336. [2013-02-16 15:38:24] <Honus> etc
  337. [2013-02-16 15:38:36] |<-- PryorConvictions has left irc.synirc.net (Quit: PryorConvictions)
  338. [2013-02-16 15:38:41] <TGMDoom> he has nothing for volc
  339. [2013-02-16 15:38:45] <TGMDoom> o wow lag lol
  340. [2013-02-16 15:38:46] <Leftiez> Honus :DDD
  341. [2013-02-16 15:38:53] <Honus> Leftiez :D
  342. [2013-02-16 15:38:56] <Honus> the boss rater
  343. [2013-02-16 15:39:00] <TGMDoom> flimsy ass water resist
  344. [2013-02-16 15:39:03] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Scarfing Terrakion alleviates the Volc problem.
  345. [2013-02-16 15:39:05] <Leftiez> yere
  346. [2013-02-16 15:39:08] <Honus> but some significant changes will be made to this team
  347. [2013-02-16 15:39:13] <Honus> if it wants to function well
  348. [2013-02-16 15:39:18] <BlackRussian> brb
  349. [2013-02-16 15:39:22] <Jirachee> I think that starmie is the biggest issue to this team
  350. [2013-02-16 15:39:23] <Honus> i think dealing with weather offense
  351. [2013-02-16 15:39:24] <Jirachee> honestly
  352. [2013-02-16 15:39:26] <Honus> is probably the first
  353. [2013-02-16 15:39:26] <Jirachee> it just
  354. [2013-02-16 15:39:31] <Jirachee> fucks him
  355. [2013-02-16 15:39:33] <Jirachee> so bad
  356. [2013-02-16 15:39:43] <Honus> a lot of mons do that jira,,,
  357. [2013-02-16 15:39:48] <Jirachee> If I had this team vs starm
  358. [2013-02-16 15:39:49] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Jirachee, offensive LO Volc is his largest problem.
  359. [2013-02-16 15:39:53] <Jirachee> might as well wuit
  360. [2013-02-16 15:39:58] <TGMDoom> this team hase too many wekanesses
  361. [2013-02-16 15:40:01] <Jirachee> the thing is
  362. [2013-02-16 15:40:01] <Honus> ye
  363. [2013-02-16 15:40:04] <Honus> im not sure if
  364. [2013-02-16 15:40:06] <Jirachee> offensive lo volc
  365. [2013-02-16 15:40:10] <Honus> its worth rating without changing significantly
  366. [2013-02-16 15:40:13] <Jirachee> is much less common
  367. [2013-02-16 15:40:13] <Jirachee> lol
  368. [2013-02-16 15:40:20] <Honus> it seems like he just slapped mons on there
  369. [2013-02-16 15:40:27] <Honus> which obviously is fine
  370. [2013-02-16 15:40:39] <Honus> but yeah im not sure if progress can be made here
  371. [2013-02-16 15:40:57] <Jirachee> hm
  372. [2013-02-16 15:41:00] -->| DTC (Mibbit@synIRC-E3EC5381.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #ratemyteam
  373. [2013-02-16 15:41:01] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +v DTC by Porygon2
  374. [2013-02-16 15:41:01] <Jirachee> I think it's fixable
  375. [2013-02-16 15:41:07] <TGMDoom> rate something else imo
  376. [2013-02-16 15:41:09] <Honus> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479223
  377. [2013-02-16 15:41:10] -->| BKC (~BKC@synIRC-AF700BA9.cust.centrio.cz) has joined #ratemyteam
  378. [2013-02-16 15:41:11] <Porygon2> [BKC] put in position to wage teenage mayhem
  379. [2013-02-16 15:41:11] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +o BKC by Porygon2
  380. [2013-02-16 15:41:12] <Honus> maybe zeishins team
  381. [2013-02-16 15:41:15] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Jolteon looks to be the least useful member on his team IMO.
  382. [2013-02-16 15:41:28] <Honus> yeah
  383. [2013-02-16 15:41:31] <Honus> as a very basic change
  384. [2013-02-16 15:41:36] <Jirachee> he could use like
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  386. [2013-02-16 15:41:37] <Honus> rotom-w>jolteon
  387. [2013-02-16 15:41:52] <Jirachee> dragonite somewhere
  388. [2013-02-16 15:42:00] <Jirachee> which helps him vs all weathers
  389. [2013-02-16 15:42:03] <TGMDoom> sdef with twave could work
  390. [2013-02-16 15:42:04] =-= BKC is now known as AFKC
  391. [2013-02-16 15:42:11] <Jirachee> and is generally good on offense
  392. [2013-02-16 15:42:13] <Jirachee> meh
  393. [2013-02-16 15:42:19] <Jirachee> sdef rotom-w on deo-d
  394. [2013-02-16 15:42:23] <TGMDoom> but then again this is ho
  395. [2013-02-16 15:42:24] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> DNite > Lucario y/y
  396. [2013-02-16 15:42:54] <Jirachee> hm
  397. [2013-02-16 15:43:04] <TGMDoom> hm
  398. [2013-02-16 15:43:07] <DTC> the formatting 9.9
  399. [2013-02-16 15:43:16] <Jirachee> why not just
  400. [2013-02-16 15:43:20] <Jirachee> get rid of jolteon
  401. [2013-02-16 15:43:27] <TGMDoom> rocks :(
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  403. [2013-02-16 15:43:39] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +qo Haunter Haunter by Porygon2
  404. [2013-02-16 15:43:49] <Jirachee> he has magic coat deo-d :o
  405. [2013-02-16 15:44:08] <TGMDoom> ik but js
  406. [2013-02-16 15:44:28] <TGMDoom> for the most part that should work fine
  407. [2013-02-16 15:44:33] <Jirachee> yeah
  408. [2013-02-16 15:44:40] <Jirachee> standard dd lum nite
  409. [2013-02-16 15:44:54] <TGMDoom> bit weaker to like rak though
  410. [2013-02-16 15:45:09] <Jirachee> yeah
  411. [2013-02-16 15:45:11] <Jirachee> but
  412. [2013-02-16 15:45:14] <Jirachee> he does has loomer
  413. [2013-02-16 15:45:21] <Jirachee> to deal w/ terra
  414. [2013-02-16 15:45:34] <Jirachee> and it's not like jolteon was really good against terra lol
  415. [2013-02-16 15:45:42] <Jirachee> he also has bp luke
  416. [2013-02-16 15:46:09] <TGMDoom> oh I thought we were still nite > luke
  417. [2013-02-16 15:46:09] <TGMDoom> woops lol
  418. [2013-02-16 15:46:18] <Jirachee> lol
  419. [2013-02-16 15:46:32] <Jirachee> jolteon is just useless on that team imo
  420. [2013-02-16 15:46:46] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> So, we're replacing Jolty with DNite?
  421. [2013-02-16 15:47:00] <Jirachee> yea
  422. [2013-02-16 15:47:04] <Jirachee> but then again
  423. [2013-02-16 15:47:15] <Jirachee> he still has nothing vs starmie
  424. [2013-02-16 15:47:22] <TGMDoom> still weak af to starm
  425. [2013-02-16 15:47:27] <TGMDoom> fucking ninja lol
  426. [2013-02-16 15:47:39] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Aight, that's a good first step. Leaves him weaker v. Starmie, which could be helped ever so slightly by Scarfing Rakion.
  427. [2013-02-16 15:47:40] <Jirachee> he could use weavile somewhere I guess
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  429. [2013-02-16 15:47:46] <Honus> rotom-w>jolt imo
  430. [2013-02-16 15:48:20] <Jirachee> with weavile you ca go to gengar vs starmie
  431. [2013-02-16 15:48:25] <Jirachee> and if it spins you block it
  432. [2013-02-16 15:48:38] <Honus> or throw a latios or somethin on here
  433. [2013-02-16 15:48:40] <Jirachee> if it decides to kill gengar you can pursuit it afterwards
  434. [2013-02-16 15:49:23] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> With Jolteon gone, Lucario seems like the next most replaceable member. Weavile appears to be the best replacement. You're getting most of the same weaknesses, alongside a check for Starmie.
  435. [2013-02-16 15:49:49] <Jirachee> yeah either terra on luke can be replaced
  436. [2013-02-16 15:50:00] <Jirachee> honestly I don't think r-w really fits this team well
  437. [2013-02-16 15:50:23] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> I personally would like to keep Terrakion and turn it into a SubSD set.
  438. [2013-02-16 15:51:03] <Jirachee> hm
  439. [2013-02-16 15:51:05] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Lucario can go.
  440. [2013-02-16 15:51:46] <Jirachee> that works I guess
  441. [2013-02-16 15:52:01] <Jirachee> so with the changes it becomes
  442. [2013-02-16 15:52:02] <TGMDoom> mhm
  443. [2013-02-16 15:52:30] <Jirachee> deo-d / gengar / weavile / dnite / breloom / terra
  444. [2013-02-16 15:52:30] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Deo-D / Geng / Weavile / Loom / DNite / Rakion
  445. [2013-02-16 15:52:56] <Jirachee> that looks like an okay team
  446. [2013-02-16 15:53:09] <TGMDoom> lol
  447. [2013-02-16 15:53:15] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Ninja'd Jirachee. What does everyone else think?
  448. [2013-02-16 15:54:03] -->| dragonuser (dragonuser@synIRC-45742AD8.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined #ratemyteam
  449. [2013-02-16 15:54:03] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +h dragonuser by Porygon2
  450. [2013-02-16 15:54:05] <Jirachee> so
  451. [2013-02-16 15:54:07] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> About the changes, that is.
  452. [2013-02-16 15:54:13] <Jirachee> the changes
  453. [2013-02-16 15:54:23] <TGMDoom> looks good
  454. [2013-02-16 15:54:28] <Jirachee> Jolteon ---> Standard DD Lum Dnite
  455. [2013-02-16 15:54:36] <TGMDoom> triple priority is great
  456. [2013-02-16 15:54:43] <Jirachee> Lucario ---> a random LO Weavile
  457. [2013-02-16 15:55:02] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Double Dance Terrakion ====> SubSD Terrakion?
  458. [2013-02-16 15:55:04] <Jirachee> double dance terra ---> SubSD
  459. [2013-02-16 15:55:16] <Jirachee> alright that looks good
  460. [2013-02-16 15:55:26] <Jirachee> anyone has another team to be rated?
  461. [2013-02-16 15:55:49] -->| Delko (~Delko@synIRC-E9128036.access.telenet.be) has joined #ratemyteam
  462. [2013-02-16 15:55:49] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +ao Delko Delko by Porygon2
  463. [2013-02-16 15:55:53] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> We could always rate ium's team, but I lack knowledge of the NU metagame, so I can't help.
  464. [2013-02-16 15:56:17] <Jirachee> heh
  465. [2013-02-16 15:56:22] <Jirachee> no one here
  466. [2013-02-16 15:56:25] <ium> ok
  467. [2013-02-16 15:56:26] <BlackRussian> same
  468. [2013-02-16 15:56:27] <Jirachee> really rates nu
  469. [2013-02-16 15:56:27] <ium> go go go
  470. [2013-02-16 15:56:30] <ium> y
  471. [2013-02-16 15:56:35] <ium> ok how about
  472. [2013-02-16 15:56:36] <BlackRussian> I can really only kinda do OU
  473. [2013-02-16 15:56:38] <ficcion> ium does
  474. [2013-02-16 15:56:39] <ficcion> !
  475. [2013-02-16 15:56:39] <ium> one of you guys
  476. [2013-02-16 15:56:43] <ium> make your own nu team
  477. [2013-02-16 15:56:45] <ium> and i solo rate
  478. [2013-02-16 15:56:46] <ium> !
  479. [2013-02-16 15:56:50] <Jirachee> 9.9
  480. [2013-02-16 15:56:50] <Funkasaurus> I know how to spice up the chat
  481. [2013-02-16 15:56:52] <TGMDoom> I only ou
  482. [2013-02-16 15:56:54] <ium> :|
  483. [2013-02-16 15:56:55] =-= Funkasaurus is now known as Party_Starter
  484. [2013-02-16 15:56:55] <ium> |:
  485. [2013-02-16 15:56:57] <TGMDoom> lol
  486. [2013-02-16 15:57:03] -->| butt (~butt@964AF39C.9AA3D306.7E29571D.IP) has joined #ratemyteam
  487. [2013-02-16 15:57:05] <Party_Starter> there he is
  488. [2013-02-16 15:57:06] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Is FLCL online?
  489. [2013-02-16 15:57:06] <TGMDoom> :|
  490. [2013-02-16 15:57:07] <Jirachee> !Kb butt
  491. [2013-02-16 15:57:08] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +b *!*butt@964AF39C.9AA3D306.7E29571D.IP by Porygon2
  492. [2013-02-16 15:57:08] =-= butt was booted from #ratemyteam by Porygon2 (Requested (Jirachee))
  493. [2013-02-16 15:57:10] <ium> yea he is
  494. [2013-02-16 15:57:13] <Party_Starter> ugh
  495. [2013-02-16 15:57:14] <Party_Starter> why
  496. [2013-02-16 15:57:20] <Party_Starter> he is a nice butt
  497. [2013-02-16 15:57:25] =-= Mode #ratemyteam -b *!*butt@964AF39C.9AA3D306.7E29571D.IP by Party_Starter
  498. [2013-02-16 15:57:33] -->| butt (~butt@964AF39C.9AA3D306.7E29571D.IP) has joined #ratemyteam
  499. [2013-02-16 15:57:38] <ium> !butt funkasaurus
  500. [2013-02-16 15:57:39] <butt> ium: butt
  501. [2013-02-16 15:57:41] <ium> :|
  502. [2013-02-16 15:57:41] <Party_Starter> leave him alone
  503. [2013-02-16 15:57:46] <Party_Starter> !butt jirachee is a fagger
  504. [2013-02-16 15:57:46] <Jirachee> !kb butt
  505. [2013-02-16 15:57:46] <butt> Party_Starter: jirachee is a fagbutt
  506. [2013-02-16 15:57:47] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +b *!*butt@964AF39C.9AA3D306.7E29571D.IP by Porygon2
  507. [2013-02-16 15:57:47] =-= butt was booted from #ratemyteam by Porygon2 (Requested (Jirachee))
  508. [2013-02-16 15:57:56] <BlackRussian> I can give another one of my teams if we need another
  509. [2013-02-16 15:58:03] <Jirachee> if you want
  510. [2013-02-16 15:58:11] <ium> jirachee this is
  511. [2013-02-16 15:58:14] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Here's a team I was asked to rate: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479253
  512. [2013-02-16 15:58:16] <ium> discriminating
  513. [2013-02-16 15:58:21] <ium> slander
  514. [2013-02-16 15:58:22] <BlackRussian> lol
  515. [2013-02-16 15:58:22] <ium> imo
  516. [2013-02-16 15:58:28] <Jirachee> oh we can rate that tnt
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  518. [2013-02-16 15:58:34] <Party_Starter> garchomp is not a diva
  519. [2013-02-16 15:58:36] <ium> i am
  520. [2013-02-16 15:58:36] <ium> hated
  521. [2013-02-16 15:58:38] <ium> :'(
  522. [2013-02-16 15:58:38] <Party_Starter> it is a chomper
  523. [2013-02-16 15:58:41] <Party_Starter> I don't hate you ium
  524. [2013-02-16 15:58:42] <Party_Starter> n_n
  525. [2013-02-16 15:58:45] <Jirachee> although
  526. [2013-02-16 15:58:45] <--| ficcion has left #ratemyteam
  527. [2013-02-16 15:58:46] <ium> your opinion doesn't count tho
  528. [2013-02-16 15:58:49] <Jirachee> it does have
  529. [2013-02-16 15:58:51] <Jirachee> infernape
  530. [2013-02-16 15:58:52] <Jirachee> so 9.9
  531. [2013-02-16 15:58:53] <--| PC2 has left #ratemyteam
  532. [2013-02-16 15:58:54] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> I think that I should be the one that picks teams for the RMT workshops.
  533. [2013-02-16 15:58:54] |<-- PryorConvictions has left irc.synirc.net (Broken pipe)
  534. [2013-02-16 15:59:00] <ium> n
  535. [2013-02-16 15:59:05] <ium> must be nu team
  536. [2013-02-16 15:59:12] <TGMDoom> infernape a_a
  537. [2013-02-16 15:59:18] <TGMDoom> such a bad mon
  538. [2013-02-16 15:59:23] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +v tab by Party_Starter
  539. [2013-02-16 15:59:26] <Party_Starter> n_n
  540. [2013-02-16 15:59:31] <TGMDoom> ro jirachee have you seen the warstory in overused?
  541. [2013-02-16 15:59:33] <Jirachee> yeah his scarfer is useless against rain
  542. [2013-02-16 15:59:35] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Who's worse, Infernape or Froslass?
  543. [2013-02-16 15:59:35] <TGMDoom> the ctp one
  544. [2013-02-16 15:59:43] <Jirachee> yeah I saw doom lol
  545. [2013-02-16 15:59:45] <Party_Starter> infernape
  546. [2013-02-16 16:00:01] <TGMDoom> did you see the slops section?
  547. [2013-02-16 16:00:05] <Jirachee> yes
  548. [2013-02-16 16:00:05] <TGMDoom> :]
  549. [2013-02-16 16:00:06] <Jirachee> a_a
  550. [2013-02-16 16:00:11] <ium> there's this team
  551. [2013-02-16 16:00:13] <ium> i dont want to touch because
  552. [2013-02-16 16:00:17] <ium> this guy doesnt want to get rid of
  553. [2013-02-16 16:00:18] <ium> curse golurk
  554. [2013-02-16 16:00:23] <Honus> lol
  555. [2013-02-16 16:00:27] <BlackRussian> lol
  556. [2013-02-16 16:00:27] <TGMDoom> did yo usee how I put you down as my aborted baby
  557. [2013-02-16 16:00:36] <Honus> i remember zeb tried to rate a team and the guy said no
  558. [2013-02-16 16:00:38] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> whatisthisidonteven
  559. [2013-02-16 16:00:45] <Honus> and wouldnt change any pkmn
  560. [2013-02-16 16:00:47] <Party_Starter> [16:00:28] <+Honus> i remember zeb tried to rate a team and the guy said no
  561. [2013-02-16 16:00:50] <Party_Starter> story of my life
  562. [2013-02-16 16:00:59] <BlackRussian> for the team Pirates_vs_Ninjas gave
  563. [2013-02-16 16:01:15] <BlackRussian> I think Froslass can be replaced
  564. [2013-02-16 16:01:17] <Party_Starter> tnt
  565. [2013-02-16 16:01:23] <Party_Starter> why is your irc name so bad
  566. [2013-02-16 16:01:27] <BlackRussian> as well as ape
  567. [2013-02-16 16:01:29] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Hey BlackRussian, just call me TNT. Easier to type.
  568. [2013-02-16 16:01:35] <Party_Starter> tnt
  569. [2013-02-16 16:01:36] <Party_Starter> why is your irc name so bad
  570. [2013-02-16 16:01:37] <BlackRussian> oh
  571. [2013-02-16 16:01:38] <BlackRussian> ok
  572. [2013-02-16 16:01:41] <BlackRussian> well do
  573. [2013-02-16 16:01:44] <BlackRussian> will *
  574. [2013-02-16 16:01:46] <ium> [16:00:14] <+Honus> i remember zeb tried to rate a team and the guy said no
  575. [2013-02-16 16:01:48] <ium> because
  576. [2013-02-16 16:01:50] <ium> you need to
  577. [2013-02-16 16:01:51] <ium> lov ur pkmn
  578. [2013-02-16 16:01:53] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Also Funk, I forgot the pass to my TNT alt.
  579. [2013-02-16 16:02:00] <Honus> :)!
  580. [2013-02-16 16:02:09] <Party_Starter> irc nicks expire
  581. [2013-02-16 16:02:19] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> I'll check if it's expired now.
  582. [2013-02-16 16:02:19] =-= Party_Starter is now known as tnt
  583. [2013-02-16 16:02:24] <tnt> this isn't registered
  584. [2013-02-16 16:02:24] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Thanks for the tip.
  585. [2013-02-16 16:02:30] =-= tnt is now known as Party_Starter
  586. [2013-02-16 16:02:33] =-= ium is now known as tnt
  587. [2013-02-16 16:02:34] <tnt> gg
  588. [2013-02-16 16:02:36] <tnt> you're a goner
  589. [2013-02-16 16:02:37] <Pirates_vs_Ninjas> Thanks.
  590. [2013-02-16 16:02:37] <Party_Starter> going for it
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  592. [2013-02-16 16:02:57] <Party_Starter> ium, did you group it
  593. [2013-02-16 16:03:21] <TGMDoom> this isn't
  594. [2013-02-16 16:03:22] <tnt> do you want me to
  595. [2013-02-16 16:03:37] <TGMDoom> the best wrkshop ever
  596. [2013-02-16 16:03:42] <Jirachee> lol
  597. [2013-02-16 16:03:59] <Jirachee> ok so
  598. [2013-02-16 16:04:00] =-= Pirates_vs_Ninjas is now known as Trinitrotoluene
  599. [2013-02-16 16:04:05] <Jirachee> for Beautiful Life
  600. [2013-02-16 16:04:09] <Jirachee> he needs to change his scarfer
  601. [2013-02-16 16:04:14] <Jirachee> infernape is just
  602. [2013-02-16 16:04:15] <Jirachee> bad
  603. [2013-02-16 16:04:19] <Party_Starter> the best
  604. [2013-02-16 16:04:28] <BlackRussian> Terrakion over Ape?
  605. [2013-02-16 16:04:30] <Party_Starter> infernape@the.best
  606. [2013-02-16 16:04:31] <TGMDoom> repost team imo
  607. [2013-02-16 16:04:44] <Jirachee> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479253
  608. [2013-02-16 16:04:45] <skybot> Jirachee: Pirates_vs_Ninjas linked that 6 minutes ago.
  609. [2013-02-16 16:05:01] <Jirachee> !kb skybot
  610. [2013-02-16 16:05:02] =-= Mode #ratemyteam +b *!*skybot@synIRC-EEB3A900.e.vilgeni.us by Porygon2
  611. [2013-02-16 16:05:02] =-= skybot was booted from #ratemyteam by Porygon2 (Requested (Jirachee))
  612. [2013-02-16 16:05:15] <Trinitrotoluene> Alright. Finally got this alt wrested under my control. Terrakion > Infernape IMO.
  613. [2013-02-16 16:05:21] <Party_Starter> jirachee
  614. [2013-02-16 16:05:24] <Party_Starter> I have a query
  615. [2013-02-16 16:05:32] <Jirachee> Hello
  616. [2013-02-16 16:05:35] <Party_Starter> are you a tryanitar baised team builder
  617. [2013-02-16 16:05:53] <Jirachee> KelTar a Tryanitar + Keldeo baised team
  618. [2013-02-16 16:05:54] <Jirachee> ?
  619. [2013-02-16 16:06:02] <Party_Starter> y
  620. [2013-02-16 16:06:11] <Jirachee> lol
  621. [2013-02-16 16:06:13] <Jirachee> anyway
  622. [2013-02-16 16:06:16] <Party_Starter> are you tryanitar baised
  623. [2013-02-16 16:06:22] <Party_Starter> based tyranitar
  624. [2013-02-16 16:06:41] <Honus> lol
  625. [2013-02-16 16:06:44] <Honus> that team is so based
  626. [2013-02-16 16:06:48] <Trinitrotoluene> TTar + Keldeo is cool.
  627. [2013-02-16 16:07:10] <Trinitrotoluene> So, what are we rating now?
  628. [2013-02-16 16:07:19] <Jirachee> beautiful life
  629. [2013-02-16 16:07:32] <BlackRussian> the Beautiful life team
  630. [2013-02-16 16:07:45] =-= tnt is now known as jurachee
  631. [2013-02-16 16:07:49] <jurachee> :|
  632. [2013-02-16 16:07:59] <Jirachee> :|
  633. [2013-02-16 16:08:10] <BlackRussian> IMO I say Scarf Terrakion over Ape
  634. [2013-02-16 16:08:27] <Jirachee> scarf terra works I guess
  635. [2013-02-16 16:08:35] <Trinitrotoluene> Thank you. Also ium, if you want, you can keep the TNT alt.
  636. [2013-02-16 16:08:49] <jurachee> but
  637. [2013-02-16 16:08:50] =-= Trinitrotoluene is now known as mui
  638. [2013-02-16 16:08:51] <jurachee> i dont need it
  639. [2013-02-16 16:08:53] <jurachee> i have this
  640. [2013-02-16 16:08:55] =-= jurachee is now known as zebraiken
  641. [2013-02-16 16:09:02] <zebraiken> :)
  642. [2013-02-16 16:09:07] =-= zebraiken is now known as ium
  643. [2013-02-16 16:09:23] =-= Party_Starter is now known as idumb
  644. [2013-02-16 16:09:26] <idumb> n_n
  645. [2013-02-16 16:09:28] <ium> n_n
  646. [2013-02-16 16:09:31] <ium> n_u
  647. [2013-02-16 16:09:32] =-= idumb is now known as Funkasaurus
  648. [2013-02-16 16:09:37] =-= Honus is now known as Vrai_Espoir
  649. [2013-02-16 16:09:42] =-= mui is now known as Trinitrotoluene
  650. [2013-02-16 16:09:51] <Vrai_Espoir> n_n
  651. [2013-02-16 16:09:54] =-= ium is now known as vrai
  652. [2013-02-16 16:09:55] <TGMDoom> could try scarf land
  653. [2013-02-16 16:09:55] <TGMDoom> for that volturn
  654. [2013-02-16 16:09:55] <vrai> n_n
  655. [2013-02-16 16:10:04] <Jirachee> oh yeah
  656. [2013-02-16 16:10:09] <Jirachee> that's a possibility too
  657. [2013-02-16 16:10:26] <Trinitrotoluene> Landy also gives him another immunity to Spikes.
  658. [2013-02-16 16:10:46] <Funkasaurus> scarf landorus, more like terrible
  659. [2013-02-16 16:10:53] <Vrai_Espoir> lol
  660. [2013-02-16 16:11:02] <Vrai_Espoir> which team is this?
  661. [2013-02-16 16:11:10] <BlackRussian> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479253
  662. [2013-02-16 16:11:11] <Trinitrotoluene> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479253
  663. [2013-02-16 16:11:12] <BlackRussian> this one
  664. [2013-02-16 16:11:17] <BlackRussian> ninja'd
  665. [2013-02-16 16:11:23] <Vrai_Espoir> lol
  666. [2013-02-16 16:11:30] <Vrai_Espoir> jesus why cant people use real pictures
  667. [2013-02-16 16:11:49] <vrai> karpman
  668. [2013-02-16 16:11:50] <vrai> n_n
  669. [2013-02-16 16:12:06] <BlackRussian> instead of Scarf Lando would SF RP Lando work?
  670. [2013-02-16 16:12:08] <Vrai_Espoir> n_n
  671. [2013-02-16 16:12:09] <Funkasaurus> :'(
  672. [2013-02-16 16:12:16] <Vrai_Espoir> this is like heists team low calorie edition
  673. [2013-02-16 16:12:30] <Jirachee> no
  674. [2013-02-16 16:12:32] <Funkasaurus> honus
  675. [2013-02-16 16:12:34] <Funkasaurus> did you know
  676. [2013-02-16 16:12:34] <Jirachee> he needs a scarfer
  677. [2013-02-16 16:12:36] <BlackRussian> who is heists?
  678. [2013-02-16 16:12:38] <Funkasaurus> your name rhymes with
  679. [2013-02-16 16:12:38] <Funkasaurus> bonus
  680. [2013-02-16 16:12:39] <Funkasaurus> !
  681. [2013-02-16 16:12:41] <Vrai_Espoir> !_!
  682. [2013-02-16 16:12:46] <Jirachee> I think terra is the best choice though
  683. [2013-02-16 16:12:49] <Vrai_Espoir> hmm the garchomp set
  684. [2013-02-16 16:12:53] <Vrai_Espoir> doesnt seem verygood
  685. [2013-02-16 16:12:57] <Vrai_Espoir> he might as well just do sd sr
  686. [2013-02-16 16:13:18] <Vrai_Espoir> latios also tears him a new one if it has hp fire
  687. [2013-02-16 16:13:27] <Vrai_Espoir> or you wear down sciz
  688. [2013-02-16 16:14:49] <BlackRussian> I agree with the Latios thing
  689. [2013-02-16 16:15:24] <Vrai_Espoir> started from the bottom now we here
  690. [2013-02-16 16:15:33] <BlackRussian> no
  691. [2013-02-16 16:15:37] <BlackRussian> stop that
  692. [2013-02-16 16:17:24] <Trinitrotoluene> Landorus-T >  Garchomp as a SR setter?
  693. [2013-02-16 16:18:30] <BlackRussian> yes plus he need could use a Terrakion switch in
  694. [2013-02-16 16:19:41] <Jirachee> hm sorry I was doing something else
  695. [2013-02-16 16:19:54] <Jirachee> why would you drop chomp for lando-t
  696. [2013-02-16 16:20:43] <Trinitrotoluene> Rak switch-in and VoltTurn momentum starter. Also, Chomp isn't the best SR setter in the world.
  697. [2013-02-16 16:20:58] <TGMDoom> hmm
  698. [2013-02-16 16:21:06] <Jirachee> chomp is like
  699. [2013-02-16 16:21:13] <Jirachee> one of the best srers
  700. [2013-02-16 16:21:15] <Vrai_Espoir> i think its a decent sr setter
  701. [2013-02-16 16:21:21] <Vrai_Espoir> he just should run sr sd
  702. [2013-02-16 16:21:22] <TGMDoom> lol
  703. [2013-02-16 16:21:25] <Vrai_Espoir> not the set he has now
  704. [2013-02-16 16:21:28] <Jirachee> yeah
  705. [2013-02-16 16:21:31] <Jirachee> his set is
  706. [2013-02-16 16:21:32] <Jirachee> Not Good
  707. [2013-02-16 16:21:34] <Trinitrotoluene> Iunno, I never really liked Chomp as a SR setter.
  708. [2013-02-16 16:21:35] <BlackRussian> why SR Sd?
  709. [2013-02-16 16:21:35] <Vrai_Espoir> NG
  710. [2013-02-16 16:21:40] <TGMDoom> sash y/y
  711. [2013-02-16 16:21:41] <TGMDoom> lol
  712. [2013-02-16 16:21:52] <Vrai_Espoir> because it threatens shit like hippowdon or anything really
  713. [2013-02-16 16:21:59] <Vrai_Espoir> eh maybe lum
  714. [2013-02-16 16:22:02] <Jirachee> sr sd is the best at gaining momentum
  715. [2013-02-16 16:22:20] <Trinitrotoluene> Huh. I never really tried that out.
  716. [2013-02-16 16:22:20] <BlackRussian> oh ok
  717. [2013-02-16 16:22:41] <BlackRussian> I've used chomp so im jw
  718. [2013-02-16 16:22:47] <BlackRussian> never used*
  719. [2013-02-16 16:23:02] <Trinitrotoluene> We still need to replace that Infernape.
  720. [2013-02-16 16:23:12] <Jirachee> yeah
  721. [2013-02-16 16:23:13] <BlackRussian> yeah
  722. [2013-02-16 16:23:28] <Jirachee> is there anything this team's weak to
  723. [2013-02-16 16:23:30] <BlackRussian> I think we agree on ScarfRakion?
  724. [2013-02-16 16:23:39] <Jirachee> wait
  725. [2013-02-16 16:23:43] <Jirachee> we can choose a scarfer
  726. [2013-02-16 16:23:44] <Vrai_Espoir> he doesnt look like he has a fun time vs sun teams
  727. [2013-02-16 16:23:49] <Jirachee> based on this team's needs
  728. [2013-02-16 16:24:27] <Trinitrotoluene> Venusaur tears him a new one if it can set up.
  729. [2013-02-16 16:24:55] <Vrai_Espoir> offensive tran maybe
  730. [2013-02-16 16:25:04] <Vrai_Espoir> volc looks kinda gay too
  731. [2013-02-16 16:26:02] <Vrai_Espoir> playing vs rotom-w looks like adisaster too
  732. [2013-02-16 16:26:14] <Vrai_Espoir> i think a hydreigon or lati@s would greatly benefit him
  733. [2013-02-16 16:26:38] <Jirachee> latios is not good against venusaur
  734. [2013-02-16 16:26:42] <Jirachee> latias works though!
  735. [2013-02-16 16:27:06] <Trinitrotoluene> Scarf Latias looks like an interesting replacement. Too bad 72 / 4 / 252 / 180 Timid is the new 4 / 252 / 252 Modest.
  736. [2013-02-16 16:27:19] <Jirachee> uh scarf latias
  737. [2013-02-16 16:27:21] <Trinitrotoluene> Actually, forget the Scarf.
  738. [2013-02-16 16:27:23] <Jirachee> is just
  739. [2013-02-16 16:27:24] <Vrai_Espoir> scarf latias what
  740. [2013-02-16 16:27:25] <Jirachee> not good
  741. [2013-02-16 16:27:30] <Trinitrotoluene> I know.
  742. [2013-02-16 16:27:52] -->| Mihawk (Mibbit@synIRC-456B0AA8.bb.sky.com) has joined #ratemyteam
  743. [2013-02-16 16:27:56] <Trinitrotoluene> That's why I said forget the Scarf. I was going to suggest Scarf Latios, but then I changed my mind.
  744. [2013-02-16 16:28:08] <Jirachee> scarf latios
  745. [2013-02-16 16:28:12] <Jirachee> doesn't outspeed venusaur
  746. [2013-02-16 16:28:13] <Jirachee> .-.
  747. [2013-02-16 16:28:21] <Trinitrotoluene> I just forgot to remove the Scarf in that statement. Sheesh, don't drag on me for it.
  748. <TGMDoom> g2g sorry
  749. <TGMDoom> :(
  750. <TGMDoom> spl shenanigans
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  752. <Jirachee> bbl
  753. <Jirachee> tnt is hosting
  754. *** Jirachee [Jirachee@1.2.3.4.fires.in.your.eyes] has quit [Quit: losed]
  755. <AB2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tklYWVV-xY
  756. <Trinitrotoluene> Welp, I'm taking responsibility, I guess.
  757. <Trinitrotoluene> So, where did we last leave off?
  758. <BlackRussian> umm
  759. <BlackRussian> we brought up Scarf Latios
  760. <BlackRussian> but its doesnt outspeed Venusaur
  761. *** Tanner [~chatzilla@D6AF8349.E3591564.F9AFA4E4.IP] has joined #ratemyteam
  762. <Trinitrotoluene> Okay. That proposition was shot down a bit ago.
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  764. <Trinitrotoluene> Recap for those that are joining us: we're rating this team: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479253
  765. <BlackRussian> so a scarfer is needed
  766. <Trinitrotoluene> And the changes established so far are: SR SD Chomp > his current Chomp.
  767. <Trinitrotoluene> We're discussing replacements for his Scarf Infernape.
  768. <BlackRussian> Latios and terrakion werent going to work
  769. <BlackRussian> yea
  770. <Trinitrotoluene> We came across Latias most recently.
  771. <Trinitrotoluene> <Trinitrotoluene> Venusaur tears him a new one if it can set up. <Vrai_Espoir> offensive tran maybe <Vrai_Espoir> volc looks kinda gay too <Vrai_Espoir> playing vs rotom-w looks like adisaster too <Vrai_Espoir> i think a hydreigon or lati@s would greatly benefit him
  772. <AB2> well yeah obv it's weatherless offense
  773. <AB2> it's going to be weak to sun no matter what p much
  774. <AB2> unless you add weather
  775. *** vrai is now known as ium
  776. <Trinitrotoluene> Those are the problems that we're factoring in for our search for a replacement.
  777. <Trinitrotoluene> So, any other suggestions?
  778. <BlackRussian> I got nothing
  779. <Trinitrotoluene> So, we're all agreeing that LO Latias is the best replacement for his Infernape?
  780. <BlackRussian> umm
  781. <BlackRussian> i think that should work
  782. <AB2> why
  783. <Jayde> er
  784. <AB2> im not really sure how much it would help with venusaur
  785. <AB2> not really much at all...
  786. <AB2> +2 sludge bomb just kos
  787. *** Jayde is now known as vuIpix
  788. *** Vrai_Espoir is now known as Honus
  789. <LizardMan2> Oh is this a seminar?
  790. <BlackRussian> yes
  791. <LizardMan2> Oh cool
  792. <vuIpix> shoutout to my mom and dad
  793. <BlackRussian> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479253
  794. <BlackRussian> heres the team we are rating
  795. <AB2> it's weatherless offense it's going to be really tough to fix a venu weak
  796. <BlackRussian> we established so far
  797. <AB2> w.o adding weather
  798. <AB2> lol
  799. <BlackRussian> that Chomp >>> to SD SR Chomp
  800. <BlackRussian> and we are still working of the Venusaur problem
  801. <LizardMan2> Looks kinda weak to LO Latios
  802. <LizardMan2> A well played LO Latios could probably hammer that team really hard
  803. <LizardMan2> Oh
  804. <LizardMan2> Infernape is scarf
  805. <LizardMan2> nvm
  806. <LizardMan2> helps a little bit
  807. *** vuIpix is now known as Jayde
  808. <BlackRussian> Like @AB2 said the Venusaur thing is going to be an issue regardless
  809. <BlackRussian> since its a weatherless team
  810. <LizardMan2> Oh
  811. <LizardMan2> Breloom looks annoying
  812. <LizardMan2> The bulky ones
  813. <LizardMan2> So Latios is starting to sound kind of good, and so does the more offensive chomp
  814. <LizardMan2> I'd probably do LO Latias though
  815. <LizardMan2> A little better for Breloom and Venusaur since its bulkier. Not ideal, but it is a common problem with weatherless offense
  816. <Trinitrotoluene> Alright. I'm back from lunch. So, LO Latias over Infernape?
  817. <LizardMan2> He has Garchomp / latios to help deal with sub, venu has trouble setting up vs him anyway
  818. <LizardMan2> Worst case scenario is
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  820. <LizardMan2> Scizor locked into pursuit
  821. <LizardMan2> Even if its like Rotom-w vs Venusaur
  822. <LizardMan2> You could always WoW, switch to Scizor if you think they will Giga Drain
  823. <LizardMan2> Then Bullet Punch
  824. <LizardMan2> Im not worried about +2 growth. Im more concerned about an aggressive Venusaur which just starts attacking everything
  825. <Trinitrotoluene> Doesn't Latias live a +2 Sludge Bomb and OHKO with LO Psyshock?
  826. <LizardMan2> and wears all the switch ins down
  827. <LizardMan2> Im unsure
  828. <LizardMan2> Life Orb Venu probably kills it
  829. <LizardMan2> but those are less common I think
  830. <Trinitrotoluene> I'll run calcs.
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  832. <Trinitrotoluene> 252 SpA Life Orb Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 72 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 129-152 (40.43 - 47.64%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
  833. <Trinitrotoluene> +2 252 SpA Life Orb Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 72 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 253-300 (79.31 - 94.04%) -- 43.75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
  834. <AB2> still very shaky
  835. <Trinitrotoluene> I agree, but again, this is weatherless offense.
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  839. <BlackRussian> Are we going with LO Latios?
  840. <Trinitrotoluene> So, in conclusion, the changes are: SR SD Chomp ====> his current Chomp, and LO Latias ====> Infernape.
  841. <Trinitrotoluene> Did I miss anything?
  842. <Trinitrotoluene> I'll take your silence as a no then.
  843. <LizardMan2> AB2, its shaky but you have some wiggle room
  844. <LizardMan2> You can kind of play around it since you have Scizor, Latias, Garchomp
  845. <LizardMan2> Definitly not perfect but no team is, and its naturally venu weak by the teams design.
  846. <LizardMan2> A lot of Deoxys D teams are venu weak too
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  849. <harsha> most deo-d teams are just weak to sun in general
  850. <harsha> at least imo
  851. <harsha> venusaur and volcarona
  852. <harsha> can usually run through
  853. <Trinitrotoluene> Unless they over-prepare for sun by using LO Weavile + offensive DD Dragonite + ScarfRakion + generic sun counter.
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