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  Channel ID:      -51344760
  Channel Name:    Private Chat (alone)
  Listener:        Elizabeth Norn
  Session started: 2013.09.08 11:44:38
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[ 2013.09.08 11:44:42 ] Elizabeth Norn > hey
[ 2013.09.08 11:44:43 ] Monty Tycoon > hi
[ 2013.09.08 11:45:14 ] Elizabeth Norn > I'm going to start out by saying, I won't be giving a 4 month old character a 10b uncollateralized loan
[ 2013.09.08 11:45:27 ] Monty Tycoon > Yea I understand
[ 2013.09.08 11:45:36 ] Elizabeth Norn > Because it's unlikely you have a reputation to damage
[ 2013.09.08 11:45:51 ] Elizabeth Norn > So even if your intentions are good, I cannot know that and the risk is far too high
[ 2013.09.08 11:45:58 ] Monty Tycoon > ok
[ 2013.09.08 11:46:50 ] Elizabeth Norn > I, on the otherhand, have a little reputation
[ 2013.09.08 11:47:14 ] Elizabeth Norn > I'm not well known or anything, but the few people that do know me, know I'm not about to 'steal' 7b
[ 2013.09.08 11:47:32 ] Monty Tycoon > ye I saw you on forum
[ 2013.09.08 11:49:10 ] Elizabeth Norn > http://imgur.com/8yK8Z5I
[ 2013.09.08 11:49:35 ] Elizabeth Norn > You can search Nornir Research on public contracts to see the stuff I have listed too
[ 2013.09.08 11:49:56 ] Monty Tycoon > woah nice
[ 2013.09.08 11:50:01 ] Elizabeth Norn > or Tax Evasion Haven, that's another of my corps
[ 2013.09.08 11:51:19 ] Elizabeth Norn > Now, I wouldn't say trust me based on screenshots because a lot of scammers use doctored photos to falsify their supposed wealth in order to scam you
[ 2013.09.08 11:51:35 ] Monty Tycoon > doctored?
[ 2013.09.08 11:51:40 ] Elizabeth Norn > photoshopped
[ 2013.09.08 11:51:45 ] Monty Tycoon > arh
[ 2013.09.08 11:52:04 ] Elizabeth Norn > I'd be happy to show it in a trade window too
[ 2013.09.08 11:52:18 ] Monty Tycoon > its ok
[ 2013.09.08 11:52:41 ] Monty Tycoon > so what you suggest?
[ 2013.09.08 11:52:54 ] Elizabeth Norn > Also, if I did steal 7b I would make myself look like a fool for calling out scammers on the forums
[ 2013.09.08 11:53:02 ] Monty Tycoon > ye
[ 2013.09.08 11:53:28 ] Monty Tycoon > just wish trust would be able to get gained in this game..
[ 2013.09.08 11:53:55 ] Elizabeth Norn > trust is earnt, it's like a ladder and you can't just jump on to the top rung
[ 2013.09.08 11:54:19 ] Elizabeth Norn > The safest way is to have the guy privately contract the stuff to me, I can then send you your cut instantly
[ 2013.09.08 11:54:27 ] Monty Tycoon > I got scammed of 10bln and then lost my bestower with 500mnl of stuff yesteday.. Now I am depresed because I can get that order
[ 2013.09.08 11:55:19 ] Elizabeth Norn > In that case you at most 'risk' (oppurtunity cost, not an actual loss) of 7b, whereas I stand to lose 10b
[ 2013.09.08 11:55:27 ] Monty Tycoon > that is what everyone is saying
[ 2013.09.08 11:55:58 ] Monty Tycoon > I have around 3bln if I sell all assests so its only around 7bln loan, but I see what you mean
[ 2013.09.08 11:57:11 ] Monty Tycoon > damn I rly need it, would pay me out of my epic failures xD
[ 2013.09.08 11:57:45 ] Elizabeth Norn > I'm not giving you any ISK without collateral, you can either forward the seller to me and I'll give you your cut, or you can keep hoping someone else will give someone with no reputation that money
[ 2013.09.08 11:58:26 ] Monty Tycoon > yea ok
[ 2013.09.08 11:59:46 ] Monty Tycoon > I'll think about it. The corp owner is copletely mental, dunno if he aggrees to it, already sold all items low to a corp member
[ 2013.09.08 12:01:22 ] Elizabeth Norn > Well, if you decide on it, just have him contract the ships to me and send me a mail
[ 2013.09.08 12:01:55 ] Monty Tycoon > If just that Greedy Gurista had not scamed me. I worked 4 weeks nonstop in FW plex with cloak, then I invisted in him
[ 2013.09.08 12:02:35 ] Elizabeth Norn > Greedy Guristas scammed you? You shouldn't have given him a penny
[ 2013.09.08 12:02:43 ] Monty Tycoon > ye I found out
[ 2013.09.08 12:03:06 ] Monty Tycoon > fuking 10bln all my hard work x(
[ 2013.09.08 12:03:33 ] Elizabeth Norn > I would suggest you post a screenshot of your wallet (player donations) and any correspondence the two of you had, as to prevent anyone else from making the same mistake
[ 2013.09.08 12:04:10 ] Monty Tycoon > ye, probably should do that. If I dont ge ttired of it all before that
[ 2013.09.08 12:04:54 ] Elizabeth Norn > You were the one that was scammed not me, I cannot prove he has taken your money and not given it back
[ 2013.09.08 12:05:56 ] Monty Tycoon > fuking scammers. I got into an guild that gave me 50mnl free. I left couple of days after for FW corp. As soon as I had that 50mln earned I send them back to corp leader Jade. ALways been honest.
[ 2013.09.08 12:06:28 ] Monty Tycoon > should be banable to scam lke that
[ 2013.09.08 12:06:39 ] Elizabeth Norn > I don't think so
[ 2013.09.08 12:07:11 ] Elizabeth Norn > Eve is game where you don't get your hand held
[ 2013.09.08 12:07:41 ] Monty Tycoon > a little held would not harm :)
[ 2013.09.08 12:07:46 ] Monty Tycoon > me atleast lol
[ 2013.09.08 12:08:13 ] Elizabeth Norn > You just have to be more careful
[ 2013.09.08 12:08:47 ] Elizabeth Norn > one of the precautions I take is not taking people at face value, ask for evidence and question inconsistencies in their story
[ 2013.09.08 12:08:51 ] Monty Tycoon > ye you are right
[ 2013.09.08 12:09:18 ] Monty Tycoon > yea I read that post followin on the net
[ 2013.09.08 12:09:34 ] Monty Tycoon > in the greedy gurista post
[ 2013.09.08 12:10:10 ] Monty Tycoon > I even knew him a bit rl
[ 2013.09.08 12:10:50 ] Elizabeth Norn > oh?
[ 2013.09.08 12:11:10 ] Monty Tycoon > went to school together some year ago
[ 2013.09.08 12:11:16 ] Elizabeth Norn > Greedy Guristas made dubious claims, lacked experience in the the kinds of sums of ISK he was asking for, provided shoddy evidence and used what appears to be someone else's identify to back up his claims
[ 2013.09.08 12:11:24 ] Elizabeth Norn > So he is who he really says he is?
[ 2013.09.08 12:11:34 ] Monty Tycoon > some of it is lie
[ 2013.09.08 12:11:39 ] Elizabeth Norn > What school was that again?
[ 2013.09.08 12:11:40 ] Monty Tycoon > overexaggerated
[ 2013.09.08 12:12:00 ] Monty Tycoon > dunno what is in enlish but its some time ago, the basic school you go to
[ 2013.09.08 12:12:10 ] Monty Tycoon > was 13-15yo
[ 2013.09.08 12:13:31 ] Monty Tycoon > rl friend taking 10bln this game makes ppl crasy
[ 2013.09.08 12:15:34 ] Elizabeth Norn > I wouldn't consider anyone that steals something from me in game a friend
[ 2013.09.08 12:15:58 ] Monty Tycoon > I can tell you he is not anymore
[ 2013.09.08 12:16:07 ] Elizabeth Norn > especially since I'd probably anyone I consider a friend whatever they asked for
[ 2013.09.08 12:16:14 ] Monty Tycoon > laught at me in phone x(
[ 2013.09.08 12:16:15 ] Elizabeth Norn > probably give anyone*
[ 2013.09.08 12:17:00 ] Monty Tycoon > yea I trusted him cause he was realy nice back in school
[ 2013.09.08 12:17:44 ] Elizabeth Norn > Anyway, I need to get some stuff done so I'll catch you later if you change your mind
[ 2013.09.08 12:17:57 ] Elizabeth Norn > One last question, is Greedy Guristas your character?
[ 2013.09.08 12:17:57 ] Monty Tycoon > ok fine
[ 2013.09.08 12:18:10 ] Monty Tycoon > lol
[ 2013.09.08 12:18:18 ] Monty Tycoon > this game
[ 2013.09.08 12:18:19 ] Elizabeth Norn > :)
[ 2013.09.08 12:18:34 ] Elizabeth Norn > It's quite the coincidence you have to agree
[ 2013.09.08 12:18:46 ] Monty Tycoon > what is?
[ 2013.09.08 12:18:59 ] Elizabeth Norn > Oh yeah, you didn't tell me your main's name
[ 2013.09.08 12:19:22 ] Monty Tycoon > if you promise not to mention on forum, cause I will sound like a total noob
[ 2013.09.08 12:19:27 ] Elizabeth Norn > sure
[ 2013.09.08 12:19:47 ] Monty Tycoon > I can whisp you frm him if you want? got dual account so I can trade and plex same time
[ 2013.09.08 12:19:51 ] Elizabeth Norn > ok
[ 2013.09.08 12:19:54 ] Monty Tycoon > *sidekick
[ 2013.09.08 12:20:11 ] Monty Tycoon > see if I can ge tyou name typed right this time lol