#erisia: ~ws new
@BB-8-NU: A new workshop session was created
#erisia: ~ws add Hippopotas
@BB-8-NU: Hippopotas added
#erisia: ~ws add Stoutland
@BB-8-NU: Stoutland added
#erisia: ~ws add Sandslash
@BB-8-NU: Sandslash added
#erisia: SAND WORKSHOP
#erisia: ~ws team
@BB-8-NU: Hippopotas / Stoutland / Sandslash
+cyanize!: imo more hazards is cool
+cyanize!: i still support having garb 4th
#erisia: yeah i can see garb being a good partner
#erisia: decent switchin to grass
#erisia: alternatively roselia could be good
#erisia: as it's a solid water resist too
@Earth: I love roselia n_n
  PursuitOfHappiny: Something to beat ghosts maybe?
  Hunting Jolteon: Hippo and Sandslash
@eternally: Roselia beats ghosts
  Hunting Jolteon: Sandslash gets night slash to hit ghosts
+cyanize!: rose sounds cool
+Allstaar: I would use garb
+cyanize!: bc you get a special attacker as well
  PursuitOfHappiny: Cacturne with spikes hehe
+cyanize!: which sand really likes
#erisia: what sandslash set do people want? SD / EQ / stone edge / knock off? or rapid spin?
@Earth: i'd wait
+cyanize!: i'd say knock
@Earth: until we finish the team
#erisia: true
+cyanize!: unless we need hazard control
  Hunting Jolteon: Rapid Spin/SD/Knock Off/EQ that is what I run
#erisia: either way garb and roselia are great for absorbing tspikes too
#erisia: !weak ground
  Hunting Jolteon: Probo with sand
#erisia: so we obviously need an ice resist too
  Hunting Jolteon: Only for SPDEF boost
  Hunting Jolteon: Yeah Probo
  PursuitOfHappiny: Yama? Mag?
#erisia: rose + yama seems like an easy choice
+cyanize!: i was using aurorus as a secondary ice resist and offense at the same time
+cyanize!: thug i'm sure something else works
#erisia: cyanize i was thinking aurorus too ngl
#erisia: sand + hail x_x
  PursuitOfHappiny: Hailstorm works
#erisia: or just refrigerate
#erisia: which benefits from sandstorm too
+cyanize!: yeah
@Earth: ~ws team
@BB-8-NU: Hippopotas / Stoutland / Sandslash
#erisia: i like that actually
#erisia: !dt aurorus
+cyanize!: though i wouldn't want this to be a copy of my team
#erisia: wtf koes +1 aurorus that isn't a 4x weak
@Earth: roselia would be nice
  PursuitOfHappiny: gets a spdef boost too
+cyanize!: x_x
@Earth: well cyanize we're not doing this team for you
@Earth: i mean
+cyanize!: i mean
@Earth: we want the most optimal team, if it looks like yours it doesnt change much
+cyanize!: true ig
@eternally: grats pursuitofhappiny
#erisia: also hyper voice makes it super easy to clean with sandslash
#erisia: !weak aurorus
  Zarif: Jynx or even a scarf aurorus might be a problem
  Zarif: for the team
+PursuitOfHappiny: doesn't everyone get voiced here eternally? :p
#erisia: although if we went with aurorus we'd need a stronger fighting resist than roselia
#erisia: and the water/grass weak would be real
+Allstaar: use garb
+Allstaar: !
+cyanize!: !
#erisia: but this is offense so i guess it doesn't matter
+cyanize!: "use weezing" - lucianvega
#erisia: water resist is mandatory though otherwise rotter just wrecks us
+PursuitOfHappiny: what's the team rn?
#erisia: ~ws team
@BB-8-NU: Hippopotas / Stoutland / Sandslash
+PursuitOfHappiny: Ok so ice resist
#erisia: lapras
#erisia: covers ice + water
+cyanize!: actually
+cyanize!: sounds good
+PursuitOfHappiny: specs?
#erisia: yeah
+cyanize!: instead of aurorus
#erisia: wallbreaks for sandslash
#erisia: still leaves a big grass weak but eh
  Zarif: yea liligant can be annoying
#erisia: !ds sap sipper, nu
#erisia: zeb as grass check ._.
+cyanize!: we have rose
#erisia: rose + lapras i guess
#erisia: and then another fighting check
+cyanize!: mesprit
  Zarif: how abt vileplume
+cyanize!: also cannset sand
  skrubrekker69: I'm just here for the team
  skrubrekker69: jk
  Zarif: oh true
#erisia: vileplume could be good
  Zarif: vileplume covers grass and fighting
#erisia: i think sandstorm mesprit is bad
  skrubrekker69: Geist
  skrubrekker69: >
+cyanize!: why
  skrubrekker69: Plume
#erisia: we only need it to clean late game, no need to have it up all the time
@eternally: ~ws team
@BB-8-NU: Hippopotas / Stoutland / Sandslash
+cyanize!: true ig
#erisia: in which case thunder wave is more generally useful
@eternally: speaking of plume, its a big threat to sand teams
  skrubrekker69: liepard?
+cyanize!: also i think spin slash would work better here
#erisia: yeah
+cyanize!: doesn't rose 1v1 plume ez?
#erisia: should i add rose + lapras for now?
+cyanize!: y
  Zarif: yea
#erisia: ~ws add Roselia
@BB-8-NU: Roselia added
#erisia: ~ws add Lapras
@BB-8-NU: Lapras added
#erisia: ~ws team
@BB-8-NU: Hippopotas / Stoutland / Sandslash / Roselia / Lapras
@eternally: we def need a fight resist now
#erisia: yes
  skrubrekker69: Geist
  Zarif: are we not gonna use garb?
+cyanize!: garb + rose
+cyanize!: is mesprit bait
  Zarif: true
#erisia: yeah a psychic check would also be nice
#erisia: so maybe a ghost type?
  skrubrekker69: Audino- m xD
#erisia: we could also use a spinblocker
+PursuitOfHappiny: Rotom?
  skrubrekker69: n
#erisia: this is offense so we don't have to be super sturdy. i like rotom
+cyanize!: def rotom
+cyanize!: imo
#erisia: spread burns, pivot, etc
+cyanize!: maybe i'm jisy overhyping def rotom but i think it's really good
#erisia: wisp / volt switch / pain split / hex?
+Allstaar: the team is slow w/o sand and flying types are hard
+cyanize!: yh
+Allstaar: to check
+cyanize!: with colbur/sitrus
+cyanize!: prob colbur
#erisia: yeah the thing about sand is you can't have switchins for everything
#erisia: water / fight immunes are musts
#erisia: grounded poison type is probably a must
  pikx: i just fought a trashtalker so annoying
+Allstaar: I would go with scarf tom tbh
+cyanize!: scarftom works too
#erisia: earth can you build and post this?
+cyanize!: i just don't like getting bopped by chan
@Earth: uh i probably wont build
#erisia: or eternally
@Earth: but i will post
@Earth: if u want
@eternally: ill make it
#erisia: ty
+PursuitOfHappiny: Frillish tho
#erisia: o_o
+PursuitOfHappiny: water fighting immune :o
#erisia: frillish + roselia could be interesting
#erisia: and mega audino as knock off switchin + lure
  Caleb Schwab Head: I guess sandstorm is a thing now huh?
#erisia: but then we have no non sand offense so eh
+cyanize!: sand has always been a thing
+cyanize!: a kinda mediocre thing but a thing
  Caleb Schwab Head: didn't see too much of it awhile ago.
@eternally: its very uncommon
+cyanize!: it's been around a whil, just really underused
+PursuitOfHappiny: Can't we combine sand with hail?
  Caleb Schwab Head: I mean in NU; by the way. I see one once in awhile but I guess I don't play that much.
@eternally: do we want def or offensive rose
+PursuitOfHappiny: def i guess
+cyanize!: idk tbh
+cyanize!: i can see merits of both
+cyanize!: offensive gives a bit more ways to break things that wall sand
+cyanize!: while def sets up hazards better at the cost of being passive
+cyanize!: and also loses out on synth recovery
+PursuitOfHappiny: is cacturne too meh to use for sand?
  Caleb Schwab Head: what about Golurk.
@eternally: http://pastebin.com/n0SQ2jqD
@eternally: theres the team
+Allstaar: frustration>return
+cyanize!: facade > pursuit
@Earth: eternallyr
@Earth: eternally *
@Earth: do you make the post?
@eternally: you
@Earth: sure
+PursuitOfHappiny: yup facade > pursuit
@Earth: :D
@Earth: i will change that.