>> Lesta Nediam LNC2016-01-02 2130 +st0rmforce

Lesta Nediam LNC2016-01-02 2130 +st0rmforce
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+st0rmforce __ This is moderately long and I ask you a question right at the end.
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Do you understand that you can take a 25 second "parabolic flight" and slow down the playback speed?

Oh oh oh oh oh oh ohhh is he going to say, _"But won't the voices will sound distorted?"_

GO AHEAD AND SAY/ASK IT.

Is there evidence that "NASA" dubs their alleged "ISS" video clips? YES. There are PLENTY of clips where the SOUND HAS BEEN ADDED.

Did you know that? No. Because you assume it's ALL REAL.

I am still working on a long a$$ video and it hasn't been finished yet. The video I am putting together is for someone like you in mind. You are distracting me from it but I will deal with a few of your NON points.

The most important point is that right now YOU are not able to think about this subject in an OBJECTIVE or level-headed manner.

You are belief controlled. That means you BELIEVE it is REAL therefore EVERYTHING that is pointed out to you WILL BE DISMISSED AND DISREGARDED.

Even if it happens to be actual proof.

And I can easily prove to you that this is what you're doing but it would require asking you a brief series of questions. I am happy to go through that ritual if YOU don't think you are biased.

If you think you can discuss this issue in a detached and unbiased way then say so and I'll soon have you admit otherwise.

The problem is that because you are belief controlled you can ONLY see it as real.

That means you are NOT NOTICING all of the clever cuts, sneaky edits and misdirecting pans.

You are looking at it the WRONG way.

You are FORGIVING what you shouldn't be forgiving. You are not spending time asking the right questions.

You are committing the same thinking errors that retarded people make: You are ASSUMING THE CONCLUSION.

"It's real because it's real therefore everything pointed out is nothing".

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You have also *misrepresented* what I said about being a sucker.

*I said that it is NOT PARANOIA to doubt dubious claims.*

You cannot even quote me in an honest way.

I am not asserting HOW anything is faked (YOU keep bringing up "parabolic flights" and YOU spazzed out when I suggested there could be a range of techniques employed).

I am saying that IT IS POSSIBLE TO DOUBT THAT THE ALLEGED "ISS" IS MANNED.

This is NOT paranoia.

To doubt last year's Wimbledon tennis final was a real match IS paranoia. To claim last year's Wimbledon tennis final was a hologram IS insanity. To do THOSE things is STUPIDITY, PARANOIA and INSANITY.

There is a huge difference between that and what I am talking about.

I am asserting that there is no SUFFICIENT PROOF of a manned "ISS". Sufficient proof means "sustained duration zero gravity footage that's free from clever cuts, sneaky edits and misdirecting pans".

Just because YOU are FOOLED by ONE or more of the clips DOES NOT MEAN sufficient proof has been proved.

I can't be bothered scrolling up this thread because there are now more than 200 messages but I have probably already explained this to you. Because you are belief controlled (i.e., you BELIEVE it is real) you are taking the MOST CONVINCING piece of footage (i.e., the most convincing footage to YOU) and you are saying: *"Where is the trick? I don't see any trick? Prove to me this is stitched together and if you cannot then you must admit that it is real"*.

If you are to examine this issue in an objective and intelligent way you would NOT look at the most convincing footage - you would begin by examining the LEAST convincing footage.

Otherwise you are picking from a pile of HUNDREDS of magic tricks and going with the one you find was done the BEST.

No. That is STUPID. That is FOLLY. If we want to rule out magic tricks then we need to examine the crikey out of the WORST videos. Out of the LEAST convincing footage. Because if the "ISS" is genuine - if the "ISS" is an HONEST "thing" then there should be NOTHING that's dodgy coming from them.

Do you understand that? If the alleged "ISS" is real and manned then NOTHING purporting to be from the alleged "ISS" should be faked. Do you understand that? If just ONE thing can be found to be FAKED then we are justified in concluding that ALL of it is probably faked - with varying degrees of realism.

*The problem is that your starting position is that it is REAL and so you are from the outset overlooking all of the SUBTLE edits.*

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Do you REALLY expect "NASA" to post video where the joins are OBVIOUS? Do you REALLY expect that? Do you expect "NASA" to make a NOTICEABLE join and perhaps play an audio sound just so you don't miss it?

You have to LOOK FOR IT. But you have never done that because why would you? Why would you EVER scrutinise the footage? You believe it's real. You don't want to believe it's fake. So why the f_kc would you ever REALLY examine the footage?

I can point out the subtle edits. And that is what I am doing with the longer video I am making with YOU in mind.

But it is always possible to DENY. Everyone in their lifetime has known of a pathological liar who lies and lies and lies and even when they are caught RED HANDED they KEEP LYING.

"NASA" are NEVER going to admit they are faking the footage (IF that's what's happening!).

And even if I were to point out CLEAR cuts you can always DENY it. You can ALWAYS claim it's just "video compression". Even though you can never quite find the SAME "defects" in known good video - you can always claim it's just "video compression".

You don't even care that your "plausible explanations" are not true. You simply think of an "explanation" and that will do. Meanwhile you DEMAND that I have ALL THE ANSWERS. And if I don't have ALL the answers then you can just dismiss what I am saying.

It doesn't work that way.

We are in the audience. If what I am suggesting is true then we are watching magic tricks.

Now if we go to watch a magic show and the magician does a trick on stage and if I turn to you and say "hey buddy, how did he do that?" If you say to me "I don't know" does that mean you must believe the trick was real?

If you cannot explain how the magician has cut his assistant in half does that mean you must believe he has really done so?

If you cannot explain how he has seemingly levitated his assistant does that mean you must accept the assistant has levitated?

Of course not.

There are LIMITS as to what WE in the audience can do.

But you're coming at me like a CHILD. Like a child who so BADLY wants to believe in magic. You are covering your ears and your eyes whenever you are shown something that SHOULD raise doubts.

I am bothering to talk to you because I believe you are genuine and intelligent. Not honest. Not while you are belief controlled. But you are genuine and you are intelligent. And so you are useful to me.

I am suggesting that the longer videos which YOU believe are too long to be faked ARE INDEED the work of MANY SMALLER SEGMENTS.

I am suggesting that the allegedly LIVE interviews are instead PRE-RECORDED and work like a kind of "choose your own adventure". (I have posted a 20 minute video on the pre-recorded aspect - plus I pointed out a glitch which occurs through MANY of the alleged "ISS" videos and which we NEVER see in "known good" videos).

I am saying that YOU can't SEE the edits because you have never properly looked for them and because you believe it's all real.

It's all there - right in front of you. All I am doing is pointing it out. Of course you are going to deny it because you believe it is real. So somehow I have to get you to suspend belief just for a little while so I can talk to you about it.

And for what it's worth: I DO NOT ASSERT THAT THE "ISS IS NOT MANNED". Rather, I am asserting that there is no SUFFICIENT PROOF for it. That a belief in it is not justified. THEREFORE in the absence of sufficient proof it is RATIONAL and REASONABLE to doubt the claims that are being made by the SAME GROUPS OF PEOPLE who DROP BOMBS ON CHILDREN.

All said and done you ARE trusting the same groups of people who you believe slaughter innocent lives "for the greater good".

And if killing large numbers of innocent children for the greater good is an option that's not just on the table but HAS BEEN USED then why the f_kc do you think LYING to large numbers of innocent people would NOT be an option on the table and would NOT be done?

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ALL of the LONGER "ISS" videos ARE cleverly stitched together. The joins ARE there.

ALL of the allegedly LIVE "ISS" interviews are PRE-RECORDED (in a "choose your own adventure" way).

Having said all of this: the main point I am making (which goes beyond the alleged "ISS") is that we were all born into a lie system which withholds sufficient proof.

And so EVEN IF the "ISS" is manned then EACH of the videos has been "crippled" so as to be DOUBTABLE by people. That's the central point. When populations believe events and claims on the APPEARANCES OF PROOF (and not proof itself) then that population is WHOLLY belief controlled.

For example: if I asked you today whether you would believe an alien invasion if it were reported in the news tomorrow YOU would say "no way - I wouldn't believe it - of course not".

But here's the thing: If an alien invasion WERE to be reported in the news tomorrow a magical thing would happen. Your imagination would fill in the blanks and you would find a way to believe it.

Just like you BELIEVE the "ISS" videos are ALL real therefore ALL anomalies must have a "natural and logical explanation".

You would find a way to believe an alien invasion BECAUSE you believe the nightly news reports on REAL events. And so TODAY an "alien invasion" would be a fake report. But if it were to actually be reported then you would be powerless to not believe it. Because why the f_kc would the nightly news lie to you? You believe the nightly news DOES NOT report on FAKE events. Therefore if it got reported you WOULD believe it.

This is how populations are wholly manipulated. If you believe your history books and if you believe everything about "Hitler" and so forth. Then you might wonder "how can it be that 'Hitler' rose to power? How can it be that no one could see what was happening?"

And I am f_kcing trying my damn best to EXPLAIN it to you. It is because populations from the beginning have been belief controlled. YOU are belief controlled.

Anyway - I am forgetting what I had originally intended on saying and asking.

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Okay, now I remember.

*Here is a question for you:* If a seamless JOIN could be proven to you - would that change anything for you?

YOU BELIEVE that there exists longer videos and because those longer videos are too long for "parabolic flights" then to YOU it MUST be real.

So I am asking you: if I could show you a SEAMLESS JOIN. If I could show it to you in an undeniable way. Would that change anything for you?

Now keep in mind this: the "ISS" is supposed to be honest and legitimate. Why would they do a seamless join? Why would they go to all the trouble of PERFECTLY stitching together two clips so that to the audience at home it appears to be a single continuous shot.

We all know - and you admit this - that "NASA/ISS" do have CUTS. They DO have joined segments. But these are OBVIOUS joins.

All of the cuts you are familiar with are major transitions. The background changes or it goes from day to night or anything like that.

Those are "legitimate cuts".

What I am talking about is something that is MUCH more sneaky.

So imagine a person is throwing a ball. The ball leaves the hand. It floats away. And then imagine there was a CUT but it was SO SEAMLESS that it appears as though the ball has NOT been thrown twice.

Does that make sense?

I am saying: would it change anything for you if I could prove to you and SHOW you a join - a cleverly stitched clip - where there is no reason for it. That there is no reason why they would even make the effort.

Do you understand?

Now - the answer of course should be "yes, that would make a difference". Because if you reply to me "no, that would not make a difference" then you have outed yourself as a stupid person.

Remember: the ONLY THING that PROVES anyone is doing ANYTHING in space is SUSTAINED DURATION ZERO GRAVITY FOOTAGE that is FREE FROM clever cuts, sneaky edits and misdirecting pans.

YOU know this. You MUST know this.

The only difference between you and Lesta is that YOU believe there IS such footage.

Now if I can show you a VERY SNEAKY JOIN. Where you cannot even NOTICE the join - but a join is logically the ONLY explanation (and once you know that THEN you can see where it actually happened) would that change anything for you?

It would mean that ALL of the seemingly longer segments COULD ALSO be joined together. That's what it would mean.

So the correct answer - the response I am looking for from you - is "YES, THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE". Of course I would still need to prove this to you.

At the moment I am only looking for your "intellectual agreement" - that "in principle" if such a edit/join could be CONCLUSIVELY PROVEN then yes - it would make a difference.

If your answer is "no" then how can we possibly keep talking? If your answer is no then you are admitting that the longer sequences could be made up of smaller joins but you are going to overlook it.

No. You cannot overlook it. If I can show you EXTREMELY SUBTLE JOINS (and prove it to you - in a logical way where there is no other possible explanation) would that change anything for you?

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I have been repetitive because I want to be sure it sinks in!

If I can show you such a thing AND prove that it HAD to be a join - would that change anything for you?

Keeping in mind that our differences are that YOU believe the longer scenes demonstrate sustained duration zero gravity whereas I believe they are made up of many smaller edits.

IF you could be satisfied that "super smooth and seamless edits" were taking place - then that is something only a dishonest group would do and not an honest group.

Okay - if you need any help understanding just ask.

I am basically saying: "If the 'ISS' is being fabricated then the longer scenes must be made up of smaller scenes and if that's the case then undeniable evidence of such a thing must be taken seriously because it should not be found in an honest organisation" etc.

(After all - if they are really in zero gravity then there should be no need for these extremely smooth joins - since they can just keep filming!)

Over to you. (I haven't got the time to read over what I have written - I apologise for the repetition and any typos etc. I'll edit this later if it needs it but nothing will be changed except typos etc.)



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Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's posts, comments, videos and discussions:
https://pastebin.com/Bfr5RMSg

Here is Lesta Nediam's Google Plus posts (i.e., blog) - this is where Lesta is most active:
https://plus.google.com/+LestaNediamHQ

Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's video uploads:
https://pastebin.com/WV42jUb1

Here is Lesta Nediam's YouTube channel - for videos about the lie system:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3DalBOEZ6RqSyHk8_mGV7w