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- July 20th, 2009
- <<< Renwood has joined >>>
- <<< 04:26:22 PM >>>
- GodzFire: there u go
- Renwood: fuck cant see the other chat windows
- Renwood: cause i minimized HL
- GodzFire: well can u see this?
- Renwood: ok well i found the screenshots
- Renwood: 1 sec
- GodzFire: k
- Renwood: give me your e mail
- GodzFire: *EMAIL REMOVED*
- Renwood: ok i just sent em
- Renwood: tell what you think about that shit!
- GodzFire: 1 sec
- Renwood: might take a second since it had a ZIP with it
- GodzFire: Yea it looks like the real deal, how did Dem say he got these?
- GodzFire: Was there a backstory?
- Renwood: he was an alpha tester for TFL and myth 2
- Renwood: as in he had access to stuff cause he knew somebody at bungie
- GodzFire: wow, I wonder if he might have some of the early Betas
- GodzFire: we recently located a copy of TFL Beta 4
- Renwood: and i remember him back in NoV 97 the month myth came out
- Renwood: well i can get my electronic enginer guy to do it for $200. i just never had the extra money
- GodzFire: I assume this was the only hard drive he had anything Myth related on too
- Renwood: he works at a place that makes CPU dies or some shit
- GodzFire: IE he didn't have a backup or something
- Renwood: so he knows all about clean room procedures
- GodzFire: he does?
- Renwood: no he didnt
- GodzFire: Hmmm
- GodzFire: That's what I am worried about
- Renwood: people like to keep things on hard drives beacuse they are STUPID
- GodzFire: If this friend of yours has a clean room
- GodzFire: cause if he does, we might have a chance
- Renwood: he works at a place called AVnet
- Renwood: ive been there
- Renwood: its got huge clean rooms and things that make CPU wafers or dies or whatever they are
- GodzFire: The one thing I don't understand is what made Dem think that the hard drive arm crashed into the platter
- Renwood: he wears a static coat and one of them disscharging armbands at work
- GodzFire: the only way that can be found out is by taking the hard drive apart
- Renwood: in the normal areas
- GodzFire: Ren, when was the last time you spoke with Dem?
- Renwood: i think he has to put on a intel bunny suit deal when he goes in the clean room
- Renwood: like 9 months ago...maybe 1 year ago
- GodzFire: And you're sure your friend would do this for only like 200-300 bucks?
- Renwood: yes i helped him put a shit ton of grass sod down a few months ago
- GodzFire: rofl
- Renwood: so he owes me
- Renwood: hes done this before with his own HD's
- GodzFire: One of the things the lady said was in order to get the information off they would need to know what kind of files are on there
- Renwood: thats why i trust him
- Renwood: i know what they are
- GodzFire: Okay Renwood, I'm willing to put in a couple hundred on this
- GodzFire: Here's what I need you to do
- Renwood: they are .wire and whatever else power animator 8 uses
- Renwood: pix's for textures
- GodzFire: Get in touch with your friend and ask him A) How much he's estimate his cost for service would be, B) How long would be estimate it would take, and C) if the hard drive is a lost cause, would he refund a portion of the fee
- Renwood: yes he said if he cant retrive anything he wont charge me
- Renwood: since it would be worthless to me
- GodzFire: Is he in your area, or would you have to ship the hard drive to him?
- Renwood: he lives like 20 miles from me
- GodzFire: Good
- Renwood: would drive there
- GodzFire: hmm
- GodzFire: I'd be willing to put 200-300 dollars to this then
- Renwood: ill call him right now see how soon/ how long it will take
- GodzFire: okay
- GodzFire: Drop me a note with what he says
- Renwood: i bet hes at work right now but i can text him i think
- GodzFire: k
- Renwood: other day i called him in a meeting heh
- Renwood: oops
- GodzFire: well it's almost the end of the anyway
- GodzFire: well at least here in WIsconsin it's 4:45
- GodzFire: where are u located
- Renwood: i tell you what, you will have my personal promise that ill share any myth models i have with you if you send $250 AND if i cant get anything recovered i will SEND IT ALL BACK TO YOU! i think we BOTH just want the community to have the models after all this time.
- Renwood: one sec texting him
- GodzFire: I don't doubt you Ren, I just need to be careful with my money since I lost my job and haven't been able to find a new one thanks to double digit unemployment rate in my area
- Renwood: well if thats the case can you afford $250?
- Renwood: i know i cant now hehe
- Renwood: ok SWEET he says he can take a look at it this weekend!
- Renwood: i told him he will need to work on it in the cleanroom at avnet and he said "Duh"
- Renwood: ~8^)
- GodzFire: okay
- GodzFire: in that case I will go tomorrow first thing in the monring, and transfer 300 to my paypal account
- GodzFire: it usually takes a couple of days for that to transfer from my bank to the account
- GodzFire: so it should be done in time for the weekend
- GodzFire: when it's added to my account I'll transfer 300 to you
- GodzFire: So tell your friend that let's schedule it for this weekend then
- Renwood: its setup
- Renwood: ok sweet! thanks for the help!
- GodzFire: I cross my fingers because I just have this sick feeling someone opened the hard drive before and it was improperly exposed
- GodzFire: I hope I am dead wrong
- Renwood: no they havent
- Renwood: you know why?
- GodzFire: No I can't say I do
- Renwood: because i allready have all the models offa the HD
- GodzFire: huh?
- Renwood: and i allready paid him to do it months ago
- GodzFire: ahh you lost me
- Renwood: i was making sure you werent full of shit about wanting to help
- GodzFire: oh
- GodzFire: heh
- Renwood: cause i was exspensive to get them recovered
- Renwood: err it was
- Renwood: well $250
- GodzFire: No no, I was sincere, I actually just bought a 500 gig hard drive for Revan since he might be able to get access to some original content too
- Renwood: that beatsthe 2700 they quoted you
- GodzFire: well, it helps to have a friend who you helped sod for :-)
- Renwood: ill tell you what, ask me to render somebody and ill send you a screenshot of it
- GodzFire: This brings up a question
- GodzFire: Is this what "The Wind Age" will contain?
- Renwood: yes
- GodzFire: Hmmm, now it all starts to make sense :-)
- Renwood: but ill tell you what, im broke as fuck and we are going to get shut down due to lack of funding for thing like the internet and money for the website
- GodzFire: Well, my offer is still geniune
- Renwood: so im willing to just give you all the models if you can donate to help us out
- Renwood: i have a public FTP set up and evreything
- GodzFire: I'll do it first thing tomorrow
- Renwood: just remember...
- GodzFire: So tell me, how badly damaged was the drive?
- Renwood: this is property of take2
- GodzFire: Was anything lost?
- Renwood: and we COULD get sued for leaking it
- Renwood: not that i give a shit
- GodzFire: Well to tell you the truth, I have a contact that might have any single thing Bungie and MJ had stored on a crapload of disks
- Renwood: the drive was pretty fucked he had to buy the same exact HD and inter change certain parts he said
- GodzFire: However I won't have anymore information until late august
- Renwood: well nont if that contact is fisj cause i asked him the same thing 2 weeks ago
- GodzFire: I can't say anymore than that because I literly could get sued back to the stone age.
- GodzFire: It's not
- GodzFire: Man Fisj there's an old school name
- GodzFire: wasn't he part of VR with Vodi?
- Renwood: he rocks
- Renwood: knew him since tfl
- Renwood: brb
- GodzFire: k
- Renwood: you dont have wells fargo do you?
- GodzFire: ahhh no
- GodzFire: Does this mean Road has been rendering the Myth units?
- Renwood: its free to wire with them
- GodzFire: Because I know he's been rendering units for the wind age project
- GodzFire: After I collected all the available M3 unit material, I gave them to Road to look at since Khellek had gone missing in action
- Renwood: yes he is working on it
- GodzFire: Road created an awesome looking Connacht Llancarfan preview
- Renwood: hmm
- GodzFire: Crap hold on Ren, a family member came home from work I gotta talk with them quick
- Renwood: never saw that
- GodzFire: gimme 5 mins
- GodzFire: brb
- Renwood: ok
- Renwood: i will also give you the program that we use called Alias Studio tools 12.0
- Renwood: you will need it to use them......unless you can get a copy of poweranimator 8 ...BUT thats SUPER RARE
- GodzFire: okay back
- Renwood: you also will help the entire community because you can release the models to whoever you want
- GodzFire: Yea Road was nice enough to take a look at the M3 material I had avialble
- Renwood: i never released them yet cause i wanted to try to get people to help us make them into collections
- Renwood: and i figured if i just gave them toevreybody they would just start 1000 solo projects and not help each other
- GodzFire: But on his behalf he DID prioritize his work from you first
- GodzFire: so don't yell at Road :-)
- Renwood: but i really need to money to keep this whole myth 4 thing going
- Renwood: so you will convince me with your kind donation ~8^)
- GodzFire: I thought you saw the link I posted with all the M3 information
- GodzFire: 1 sec lemme retrieve it
- Renwood: BTW DO NOT TELL ANYBODY ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Renwood: i know it will be hard to keep it to yourself
- GodzFire: Lemme put it this way, who CAN I talk to besides you?
- Renwood: but just wait a few days after you get them and you can tell whoever you want
- GodzFire: Road i assume
- Renwood: you can talk to Road in pm chat or ooga they are on the myth 4 dev team
- Renwood: nobody else though
- GodzFire: well, I am not going to mention anything to anyone until I can figure out the best way for these to benefit the Myth community and increase it's longevity
- Renwood: and certainly NOT any magma types
- Renwood: whatever you do dont tell them hehe
- GodzFire: I've always maintained that besides the 640x480 interface limitation, the biggest sign of Myth's age is the pixelated units
- Renwood: btw did you know ooga moved in with me 4 months ago JUST to work on myth 4 stuff with me
- GodzFire: ewww you roomed with Oooga
- Renwood: he lived here in phoenix back in 2006 as well to work on myth stuff
- GodzFire: I've known Ooga for probably 10 years now
- Renwood: how can you not like ooga, he makes the BEST myth collections, and hes pretty good at myth
- Renwood: and is one of the most skilled DEVS myth has ever had
- GodzFire: back when we were both part of Anicolyte Map Making group with Troll, Soma, Orlando The Axe, and Bloodluster
- GodzFire: I miss those guys, Troll especially
- GodzFire: I miss a lot of Myth people and groups who are now long gone
- Renwood: oogas only problem is he gets mad online easy heh
- GodzFire: I have to say I can't remember how long you've been around Ren
- GodzFire: I might simply just not have remembered your name from the past
- Renwood: i used to have to keep his armys seperate from other players or they would argue the whole match and not kill the enemy
- GodzFire: Did you use the name Renwood from the start?
- Renwood: i won mwc 98
- Renwood: and was around since nov 97
- GodzFire: Cause I've been around since TFL Demo
- Renwood: thats only a few weeks before me
- GodzFire: Do you remember the M1 guild ROKA?
- Renwood: do you remember the clan "58th WILD CARDS"
- Renwood: ?
- GodzFire: I can't say I do, there were so many guilds back in the way
- Renwood: roka.....they were japanese?
- GodzFire: *day
- GodzFire: russian I think
- GodzFire: heh
- Renwood: hehe Dem was in the 58th with me for years
- GodzFire: I just joined them in M1 cause I had a good friend there
- Renwood: so yea, i just decided to tell you the truth so you didnt have to worry your pretty little head about wether the money would go down the drain trying to recover the stuff
- GodzFire: Here, did you see this post back from May? http://tain.totalcodex.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4325&p=40019
- Renwood: i know it would keep ME up at night
- Renwood: but please DONT give more then you can afford
- GodzFire: This is what I uploaded for everyone
- Renwood: anything over $200 is more then i had hoped for
- GodzFire: A lot of the models are either missing the animations or the model itself
- GodzFire: although a lot of the main ones like Connacht, Damas, Deceiver, Ravana, Moagim have all the pieces
- GodzFire: and just need to be rendered
- GodzFire: Road was helping to see if it would be possible
- Renwood: yea that post is pretty much exactly what i had in mind for our post
- GodzFire: I told him he should concentrate on his work for you and Ooga since he said you were paying him :-)
- Renwood: ill post them to the public after i give them to you, and you can leak them the same time, that way we can take a part of the blame each heh
- GodzFire: Well back to the hard drive, what % do you estimate was recoverable?
- GodzFire: Were you pretty lucky?
- GodzFire: Was a crushed seek arm the real problem with it?
- Renwood: i have wanted to release them for a while now...but your donation will push me over the edge and ill have to release them just to keep our damn website up and be able to pay the internet bill heh
- Renwood: it had a place where the arm was like stuck or something on the disc
- GodzFire: wow
- Renwood: turned out that part didnt have the models on it
- Renwood: so yes WE LUCKED OUT!
- Renwood: fucking hell i had to bug dem FOR YEARS to send me that HD
- Renwood: i started buggin him when he said he had it back in like 2002
- GodzFire: I'm surprised it turned out so well
- GodzFire: Myth seems to have a tragic history with hard drives
- Renwood: dont forget its still a lot of work to make them into useable collections for myth
- Renwood: rendering them
- Renwood: setting up all the textures
- Renwood: making the animations
- Renwood: well it has animations
- Renwood: but some need to be tweaked a little
- Renwood: then haveing to make them into collections with Amber or Oak
- GodzFire: so what did the hard drive all have?
- GodzFire: just unit models? or other models as well?
- GodzFire: old betas? interface material?
- Renwood: its got ALL the TFL models from Balor to dwarves
- Renwood: and they are in final states
- Renwood: the myth 2 models are from some savepoint BEFORE they were ready and in final form for the renders
- GodzFire: hmm
- Renwood: as in the myth 2 wars have animations and a good model BUT the myth 2 war has shitty textures
- Renwood: cause he wasnt finished at the point he was saved
- Renwood: the TFL models are from when they were all FINALS so they look great
- GodzFire: How much of the 80 gigs was used?
- Renwood: its a 4 gig sit folder
- GodzFire: holy crap that's it
- GodzFire: you're kidding me
- Renwood: its got cool stuff though like never before seen concept art
- Renwood: and a few units that NOBODY EVER KNEW EXSISTED!
- Renwood: like a fucking VAMPIRE!!
- GodzFire: actually
- Renwood: its a pretty lame skinhead chick with batwings
- GodzFire: do you remember the pre-release of TFL?
- GodzFire: it talked about a Vampire
- GodzFire: I actually made a post on it
- GodzFire: 1 sec
- Renwood: i only played the first release
- GodzFire: Check this out: http://tain.totalcodex.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4462&p=41825#p41825
- GodzFire: The Myth Graveyard has the page: http://mything.org/index.php?a=article-read&o=0000002334
- GodzFire: And look, lo and behold from the pre-release info: "Vampyrs - Unable to resist their insatiable appetite for human flesh, the Vampyrs can be called in to battle by the Ghol shamans."
- Renwood: lol check your e mail...i just sent you a pic of it!
- GodzFire: k
- GodzFire: wow
- GodzFire: that's rather sad
- Renwood: isnt it
- Renwood: heh
- GodzFire: so just lemme get this straight, the entire 80 gig hard drive was empty with the exception of 1, 4 gig sit file
- Renwood: ok let me give you my info so you can donate 1 sec heh
- GodzFire: which contained all the unit models
- Renwood: ill also e mail it to you
- GodzFire: yea e-mail is the bset
- Renwood: empty?
- Renwood: no it had other shit on it
- Renwood: i just wanted the 4 gig SIT file
- GodzFire: ahhh okay
- GodzFire: I was gonna say
- Renwood: that had ALL the bungie model stuff
- GodzFire: well did the hard drive, besides the sit file contain any other Myth stuff?
- Renwood: it wasnt hard to find since it was the biggest single file on the hd hehe
- GodzFire: cause I'm also interested in stuff like concept art, interface material
- Renwood: its got tons of stuff that was included in the sit
- GodzFire: anything
- Renwood: like concept art
- Renwood: i think the modelers used it to help design the 3D models
- Renwood: see how in that shiver pic i sent you she has her concept art behind her?
- GodzFire: yea I was wondering about that
- Renwood: they even used TEXTURES FROM THE CONCEPT ART FOR THE 3D MODELS!
- Renwood: look at the boots shiver has on
- Renwood: the match exactly to the concept art bhind her
- GodzFire: yea they most likely were staring at the concept art as the modellers made her
- Renwood: yea
- Renwood: there is a really swet super high res close up of a mual
- GodzFire: I just hope that 4 gig sit still opens after all this time
- GodzFire: lol how long does it take to unstuff
- Renwood: godz..we use it
- GodzFire: rofl
- Renwood: lets see
- Renwood: it takes a while
- GodzFire: man I could believe it
- Renwood: maybe 15-20
- GodzFire: that's not bad I was gonna say like an hour or something
- Renwood: maybe longer it was a long ass time
- Renwood: i forget i was just so happy it was working!
- GodzFire: if it's a 4 gig sit, how big does it unstuff to?
- Renwood: 9.80 GB (10,525,573,120 bytes)
- GodzFire: So this Studio /AE, is it a sucessor to Powertools?
- Renwood: i just checked
- GodzFire: err Designstudio?
- Renwood: from what i understand poweranim8tor 8.0 was used to create all these models and animations
- Renwood: but that company was bought by the people who THEN made Maya
- GodzFire: correct
- Renwood: and they pulled all the power anim8tor 8.0 off the shelves
- GodzFire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerAnimator
- Renwood: to help transition people to use Maya
- GodzFire: so it transformed into Maya/Studiotools
- Renwood: but we use ALias studio tools 12.0
- GodzFire: well I guess if it openes the models that's all that counts
- Renwood: only problem is its hard to find active forums or anything related to what we are doing
- GodzFire: it's a good thing to have Road with you
- Renwood: its used for designing concept cars and previs of buldings and fabrication prototypes
- GodzFire: I bet Khellek would be great to have aboard too
- GodzFire: He told me he could sit down and fully render a unit in a single day
- Renwood: he used what program?
- GodzFire: He recently popped back on Hotline after visiting his brother in Seattle for a long time
- GodzFire: I'm sorry I can't say
- GodzFire: If I recall, he used a wide variety
- GodzFire: he was the first person I contacted to check out the M3 models
- GodzFire: he used 3DS Max for that
- GodzFire: I believe he also used Poser and Blender
- Renwood: hmmm
- Renwood: yea i saw him on hl about 2 months ago
- Renwood: i was going to bug him to finish Laws of evil
- Renwood: ok so i have only used paypal 1 time to send myrd money is this all you need? "Ren Wood" <*EMAIL REMOVED*
- Renwood: err "Ren Wood" *EMAIL REMOVED*
- Renwood: i thought you just had to enter the person's e mail address
- GodzFire: sorry I had to explain to a family member about the moon landing
- Renwood: i used that email account to sign up on paypal
- GodzFire: back now
- GodzFire: u hear that they confirmed the original Apollo 11 video tapes were erased and recorded over?
- Renwood: the originals are from Austraila or some shit
- Renwood: because they were the first station to recive and relay them
- GodzFire: negative, they were sent to Austrialia back in the 70s for some processing but sent back to NASA after
- GodzFire: they then accidently used the tapes to record satelite data on
- Renwood: slick
- Renwood: so what do you need to be able to send it?
- GodzFire: Check out this article, it goes over everything
- GodzFire: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106637066
- GodzFire: I just need your paypal account
- GodzFire: name
- Renwood: just the email i signed up on with "Ren Wood" *EMAIL REMOVED*
- GodzFire: Tomorrow I will go and transfer 300 dollars to the account I use for paypal, once that's done I will add the funds to my paypal account
- GodzFire: that usually takes 3-4 days for whatever reason
- Renwood: well dont spend your fucking rent money!
- Renwood: heh
- GodzFire: I never did get how you could instantly send money to other people when paying for stuff, but it takes like 3-4 days to get the money into your account initially
- Renwood: $250 or $300 is fine whatever you can AFFORD to give
- Renwood: want the Alias program?
- Renwood: i can upload that to our public FTP now so you can start learning it if you want
- GodzFire: ugg
- GodzFire: modeling
- GodzFire: I fear that might be a problem
- GodzFire: it's a lot like coding/programming, which I really struggle at
- GodzFire: I opened up 3DS Max and tried to look around with it with one of the M3 models
- GodzFire: I had no idea at all how to do anything
- GodzFire: It's like a janitor looking at a nasa control console and asked to coach the shuttle to orbit
- GodzFire: Kinda off topic, but you should really uninstall that Windows Desktop Search. It's a huge process drain and takes up a lot of uneeded resources
- Renwood: sorry had to make some hotdogs
- Renwood: num num numn
- Renwood: yea
- Renwood: thats a fucking POS
- Renwood: windows search
- GodzFire: U wanna know how to remove it?
- Renwood: y!
- GodzFire: I'm a Computer Support Specialist by default
- GodzFire: err by profession
- GodzFire: I'm an IT dude, there u go :-0
- GodzFire: it's actually really easy, open up your add/remove programs
- Renwood: am i wanna be video game producer
- GodzFire: near the bottom of the list should be something called "Windows Desktop Search"
- GodzFire: uninstall that
- Renwood: and former tae kwon do instructor
- GodzFire: it might ask if u want to delete the search index, say yes or you'll have a big index chunk left
- GodzFire: I think it also gives you the option to restart now or later, you can just choose later
- GodzFire: That thing is horrible, Microsoft made it so it's installed by default through windows update
- Renwood: yea
- Renwood: i noticed
- GodzFire: They mislead you because it's NOT something that's required
- Renwood: ooga and i allways bitched about how fucking shitty normal windows "find" option was
- Renwood: seems microsoft finaly noticed and made something even worse
- GodzFire: Lemme know when u tried to uninstall it, I just want to make sure it went okay for you
- Renwood: ill save this chat and do it later
- GodzFire: roger
- Renwood: these hotdogs were good
- GodzFire: I have one more question Ren, do you really plan on uploading 9 gigs of stuff?
- Renwood: they are cheese filled and i used fank's hot sauce cause i have no mustard!
- GodzFire: If you're ISP has a bandwidth limitation you might hit it
- Renwood: its 4 gigs in .sit format
- Renwood: i have quite the pro setup
- GodzFire: hmm true
- Renwood: i can upload and DL anything i want
- GodzFire: still, 4 gigs is a pretty big upload as well
- Renwood: and i have like 3 terabytes of bandwitdh per month on my http://www.myth4thewindage.com AND ftp server
- Renwood: its no sweat ~8^)
- GodzFire: I'm curious, did Bungie make the watcher model animated? or was it always just that one stoned sequence?
- Renwood: just make sure your comp is set up to DL such large files
- Renwood: sometimes you need to increase the file size or page file size that windwos temp can use
- Renwood: cause it puts DL's in the temp folder untill they are done dling and then copies them or some thing to where you tld it to go
- GodzFire: I'm fine, I have a Mac Pro, duel 2.6 ghz Intel Xeon processors with 4 gigs of RAM
- Renwood: o DER BTW i can also send you a DVD with the files!
- Renwood: if the file uploadin wont work
- GodzFire: as long as you are cool with uploading that should be fine
- Renwood: it should work fine
- GodzFire: you might want to start tonight, I'm sure it will take a few days to finish
- Renwood: yea
- GodzFire: took me a day to upload the 620 Myth3 app to Hotline
- Renwood: ill start it tonight
- Renwood: well do you have a website?
- GodzFire: I do not
- Renwood: ok i was gonna say get it ready for these files but never mind hehe
- Renwood: remember dont talk to ANYBODY about this
- GodzFire: Yes Ren you got it
- Renwood: when you have it in your hot little hands you can tell and give them to whoever you want
- GodzFire: How does the Avatara model look?
- Renwood: let me send you the pic!
- GodzFire: cool
- GodzFire: It will be nice to get a more smooth Forest Giant, it was my favorite unti from M1 and was sad when it didn't make it into M2
- GodzFire: Balor was another one which seemed to be rather low on frames
- Renwood: whats your e mail again?
- GodzFire: *EMAIL REMOVED*
- GodzFire: like he had a stick up his butt or something
- Renwood: ok i just e mailed you some more pics
- GodzFire: checking now
- Renwood: that war is the unfinished myth 2 war
- Renwood: the TFL war looks better
- Renwood: might take a min it was bigger then before
- GodzFire: got it
- GodzFire: checking now
- GodzFire: what the heck is with alric's face
- Renwood: hehes
- Renwood: he looks like a lego toy
- GodzFire: dear lord
- Renwood: i think hes ment to be wearing a MASK
- GodzFire: hmm the dirigible was a puffed up wight
- Renwood: btw i just gave you my private E mail
- Renwood: please dont use that one as a contact for public records
- GodzFire: okay
- Renwood: use *EMAIL REMOVED* for public
- Renwood: and *EMAIL REMOVED* is what i signed up with paypal
- Renwood: as "Ren Wood"
- Renwood: brb
- GodzFire: what the hell, a jellyfish?
- Renwood: heh brb
- GodzFire: k
- GodzFire: Ren, our dinner's ready and I am gonna go eat with the family. I'll probably be back in 30 mins or so at the top of the hour
- Renwood: sweet yea nice talking to you! im glad i got on HL ~8^)
- Renwood: ok i e mailed you my exact paypal info
- Renwood: o btw in the end when people ask just tell them IF you want to, that you helped pay for the HD recovery because your ARE helping with those costs. i got it recovered about months ago
- Renwood: err months ago
- Renwood: hmm 5?
- Renwood: yes about 5 months ago
- GodzFire: I'm back, watching TV with the family, if you have anything you need, just come on Hotline. I'm on almost everyday, it's the best way to contact me
- GodzFire: If I don't talk to u before then, I'll get the bank stuff going tomorrow
- Renwood: sweet ill upload alias and the myth models to our ftp tonight!
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- Renwood: bloop!
- GodzFire: Hey Ren
- Renwood: sup gods
- Renwood: ok i started uploading it 7 hours ago
- GodzFire: I transferred 300 dollars to my Paypal account from my bank about 10 minutes ago
- GodzFire: unfortunately it will take 3-5 days to complete
- GodzFire: however
- GodzFire: I currently I have 175 still left in my account
- GodzFire: which I will transfer to you right now
- GodzFire: I had forgotten I made a few eBay purchases
- Renwood: sure
- Renwood: i thought evreybody switched to criagslist
- Renwood: !
- Renwood: ~8^)
- GodzFire: nah I have no need for a prostitute or blow up doll
- GodzFire: Paypal account = *EMAIL REMOVED* right?
- Renwood: what about a USED blow up doll only 2 blocks away?
- Renwood: lets see yes thats the right E mail and my first name and last name on paypal is "Ren Wood"
- GodzFire: Okay
- GodzFire: money transferred
- GodzFire: check your account to confirm
- Renwood: 1 sec
- Renwood: wow thanks!
- GodzFire: I take it the transfer was a sucess?
- Renwood: yea it says its in there and they only took out 5.81 for a fee!
- Renwood: not too shabby
- Renwood: now i just have to figure out how to make that go into my bank account that i linked to it yesterday
- GodzFire: Well, hopefully that's enough to renew the website until the rest of my funds get transfered
- GodzFire: Why not just pay your server fee with paypal?
- Renwood: yea the website is $120
- Renwood: i dunno much about paypal
- Renwood: this is the second time ive used it
- GodzFire: I never used Paypal until about 3 years ago
- GodzFire: before that I'd use money orders for eBay acutions
- GodzFire: but Paypal is just great, because you can instantly pay for stuff
- GodzFire: and Paypal is used by a lot of businesses
- Renwood: i think i will be able to pay the website hosting bill now and half of what i owe for the cable internet i have at the house
- Renwood: so its still uploading cause it went from like 300k a sec down to like 35k a sec
- GodzFire: What is your hosting website? You can check if they accept paypal
- GodzFire: if they do they will have an e-mail address to use
- Renwood: i bet they take paypal, its just the account is set up and linked to my credit card
- Renwood: godz im really glad you contacted me
- Renwood: O and BTW i saw your PM last night
- Renwood: from a month ago
- GodzFire: last night?
- GodzFire: oh
- Renwood: was it on magma?
- GodzFire: Yea
- GodzFire: I also sent it I believe through the e-mail provided there
- GodzFire: maybe check your profile settings to make sure your stuff is up to date
- Renwood: yea i was looking for the address to the public FTP toxyn made for the myth models
- Renwood: because we wanted to be ready to release them sometime in the next few months to the public
- GodzFire: Toxyn?
- Renwood: yes hes our website admin/creator
- GodzFire: So who exactly all knows about these models
- GodzFire: best to get me a list
- Renwood: our team is: Renwood, Ooga, Toxyn, CLassic, Corbeau, brutesqaud
- Renwood: and Road
- Renwood: how can i forget
- GodzFire: And they all know about these models then?
- Renwood: no
- Renwood: just me ooga toxyn classic and road
- Renwood: and you hehe
- GodzFire: okay that's what I wanted to know
- Renwood: remember
- GodzFire: Yes tell no one for now
- Renwood: DONT SAY ANYTHING!!!!!!!! to ANYmyther!! not even your best tfl bud from back in the day
- Renwood: cause they will spill the beans
- GodzFire: I don't have any TFL buds left :-(
- Renwood: heh
- GodzFire: yea your upload speed is gonna be sucky
- Renwood: like i said though after you get the models you can do whatever you want with them
- GodzFire: my max is about 40-50k
- Renwood: and give them to whoever
- GodzFire: so u are gonna be uploading for a LOOONG time
- Renwood: i dont think so....but the damn thing isnt saying how far along it is
- GodzFire: I hope you have a resume feature in case you don't disconnect
- GodzFire: err in case you do
- GodzFire: are you using FTP?
- Renwood: like i said i can allways send you a DVD with the files on it to if needed
- Renwood: yes its FTP
- GodzFire: okay good
- GodzFire: it doesn't show you how much it's transfered?
- GodzFire: in megabytes?
- Renwood: wow im excited!!! wooo!
- Renwood: lets see
- GodzFire: actually you mind if I grab the FTP info?
- GodzFire: I can check from my end
- GodzFire: lemme open Cyberduck
- GodzFire: okay ready
- Renwood: ok well heres the deal, ill give you the myth models for this money you just sent
- Renwood: and ill give you the PROGRAM that you will need to USE them or even look at them when you send the rest
- GodzFire: okay
- GodzFire: sure that sounds fair
- Renwood: that way you can rest easy with the models
- GodzFire: Well I'm also pretty interested in the concept art and stuff
- GodzFire: give me time to sort through the stuff
- Renwood: now im giving you our PRIVATE FTP
- Renwood: cause i cant for the life of me find where the fuck toxy said the new public one is
- GodzFire: no worries, I have to keep information locked up in my head all the time when I work in IT
- Renwood: ok lets see 1 sec
- GodzFire: k
- Renwood: yes it looks like the myth models.sit in finished
- Renwood: allthough it closed cute FTP when it was done dling
- Renwood: hmm
- Renwood: ok well how about this please give me 1 day to get it all set up before you tell anybody or give them away to anybody else. we were going to make an announcement on our website saying we were working with the bungie models and that we needed help from anybody who would like to work on them
- Renwood: so help get the myth 4 thing done
- GodzFire: Ren I really don't plan on telling anyone for at least a few weeks
- Renwood: no no dont wait that long
- GodzFire: my main goal is to sort everything out and make some backups
- Renwood: i tell you this because magma has these files as well and they DONT want to give them to the public because they are pussys
- GodzFire: I'm happy to take it slow to figure out the best possible way to address these
- Renwood: im going against what they want, but FUCK they DIDNT make these models! its bungie/take2/myth community property!
- GodzFire: Don't worry I really don't have any problem waiting
- GodzFire: You have my word
- Renwood: wee!
- GodzFire: You also have my money :-)
- GodzFire: heh
- Renwood: also dont tell anybody our ftp pass heh
- Renwood: ok heres the info
- GodzFire: Of course Ren, I know it's important
- Renwood: Address: *INFO REMOVED* <-- do not put ftp, http or www before that
- Renwood: Login: *INFO REMOVED*
- Renwood: Password: *INFO REMOVED*
- Renwood: then go to uploads
- Renwood: then go to apps
- Renwood: its in there
- GodzFire: okay I'm in, lemme check this out
- GodzFire: moment please
- GodzFire: okay I see a 790.5 meg sit called Myth Models
- Renwood: 790?
- GodzFire: yes
- Renwood: damnit
- Renwood: wheres it say that?
- GodzFire: I can try to download it to see if it opens ok
- GodzFire: it looks to be completed
- GodzFire: it doesn't have a partial upload icon
- Renwood: one sec let me call toxyn on his cell, it should be 3-4 gigs
- Renwood: hmm
- Renwood: i think our ftp has no size limit
- GodzFire: I'm downloading it, and will see if the sit opens
- GodzFire: if it doesn't I'll let you know
- GodzFire: it looks to be complete though, we'll see
- Renwood: yea that cant be though its fucking 4 gig sit file on my desktop
- Renwood: allthough it was uploading for over 7 hours
- Renwood: i just think its not complete because cute ftp seems to have closed itself
- GodzFire: well, it's at 38%, so when it's done I'll let you know if the sit decides to open
- Renwood: i went to see if it was still dling, and i had to reopen cute ftp...
- Renwood: well i can go put a dvd in the mail right now if you give me a mailing address
- GodzFire: Where do you live?
- GodzFire: Wisconsin here
- Renwood: phoenix
- Renwood: should take 2-3 maybe 4 days even the cheap rate
- GodzFire: might as well send a copy
- GodzFire: here the info, I'll have it to go a business location since someone is always there
- GodzFire: *INFO REMOVED*
- Renwood: ok, i am also reuploading the myth models .sit to the art folder
- Renwood: it shouldnt be 790 megs
- Renwood: its fucking 4 gigs
- GodzFire: I'll send you a bit extra money if you can send it through a faster method than media mail
- Renwood: ok well i have a burnt DVD with the models on them as backup, ill send that right now. and keep working on the FTP upload
- GodzFire: okay
- Renwood: i also left voice mails on toxyn's cell phone to call me
- GodzFire: Alrighty, well I'll be around pretty much all day
- Renwood: i was wondering if there was a size limit on our private ftp. since i had told him to set up a NEW PUBLIC ftp for this 4 gig myth models.sit
- GodzFire: brb 4-5 mins
- Renwood: ok im going to the post office to mail that right now
- Renwood: bbl
- GodzFire: k I'll be around
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