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  1. July 20th, 2009
  2. <<< Renwood has joined >>>
  3. <<< 04:26:22 PM >>>
  4. GodzFire: there u go
  5. Renwood: fuck cant see the other chat windows
  6. Renwood: cause i minimized HL
  7. GodzFire: well can u see this?
  8. Renwood: ok well i found the screenshots
  9. Renwood: 1 sec
  10. GodzFire: k
  11. Renwood: give me your e mail
  12. GodzFire: *EMAIL REMOVED*
  13. Renwood: ok i just sent em
  14. Renwood: tell what you think about that shit!
  15. GodzFire: 1 sec
  16. Renwood: might take a second since it had a ZIP with it
  17. GodzFire: Yea it looks like the real deal, how did Dem say he got these?
  18. GodzFire: Was there a backstory?
  19. Renwood: he was an alpha tester for TFL and myth 2
  20. Renwood: as in he had access to stuff cause he knew somebody at bungie
  21. GodzFire: wow, I wonder if he might have some of the early Betas
  22. GodzFire: we recently located a copy of TFL Beta 4
  23. Renwood: and i remember him back in NoV 97 the month myth came out
  24. Renwood: well i can get my electronic enginer guy to do it for $200. i just never had the extra money
  25. GodzFire: I assume this was the only hard drive he had anything Myth related on too
  26. Renwood: he works at a place that makes CPU dies or some shit
  27. GodzFire: IE he didn't have a backup or something
  28. Renwood: so he knows all about clean room procedures
  29. GodzFire: he does?
  30. Renwood: no he didnt
  31. GodzFire: Hmmm
  32. GodzFire: That's what I am worried about
  33. Renwood: people like to keep things on hard drives beacuse they are STUPID
  34. GodzFire: If this friend of yours has a clean room
  35. GodzFire: cause if he does, we might have a chance
  36. Renwood: he works at a place called AVnet
  37. Renwood: ive been there
  38. Renwood: its got huge clean rooms and things that make CPU wafers or dies or whatever they are
  39. GodzFire: The one thing I don't understand is what made Dem think that the hard drive arm crashed into the platter
  40. Renwood: he wears a static coat and one of them disscharging armbands at work
  41. GodzFire: the only way that can be found out is by taking the hard drive apart
  42. Renwood: in the normal areas
  43. GodzFire: Ren, when was the last time you spoke with Dem?
  44. Renwood: i think he has to put on a intel bunny suit deal when he goes in the clean room
  45. Renwood: like 9 months ago...maybe 1 year ago
  46. GodzFire: And you're sure your friend would do this for only like 200-300 bucks?
  47. Renwood: yes i helped him put a shit ton of grass sod down a few months ago
  48. GodzFire: rofl
  49. Renwood: so he owes me
  50. Renwood: hes done this before with his own HD's
  51. GodzFire: One of the things the lady said was in order to get the information off they would need to know what kind of files are on there
  52. Renwood: thats why i trust him
  53. Renwood: i know what they are
  54. GodzFire: Okay Renwood, I'm willing to put in a couple hundred on this
  55. GodzFire: Here's what I need you to do
  56. Renwood: they are .wire and whatever else power animator 8 uses
  57. Renwood: pix's for textures
  58. GodzFire: Get in touch with your friend and ask him A) How much he's estimate his cost for service would be, B) How long would be estimate it would take, and C) if the hard drive is a lost cause, would he refund a portion of the fee
  59. Renwood: yes he said if he cant retrive anything he wont charge me
  60. Renwood: since it would be worthless to me
  61. GodzFire: Is he in your area, or would you have to ship the hard drive to him?
  62. Renwood: he lives like 20 miles from me
  63. GodzFire: Good
  64. Renwood: would drive there
  65. GodzFire: hmm
  66. GodzFire: I'd be willing to put 200-300 dollars to this then
  67. Renwood: ill call him right now see how soon/ how long it will take
  68. GodzFire: okay
  69. GodzFire: Drop me a note with what he says
  70. Renwood: i bet hes at work right now but i can text him i think
  71. GodzFire: k
  72. Renwood: other day i called him in a meeting heh
  73. Renwood: oops
  74. GodzFire: well it's almost the end of the anyway
  75. GodzFire: well at least here in WIsconsin it's 4:45
  76. GodzFire: where are u located
  77. Renwood: i tell you what, you will have my personal promise that ill share any myth models i have with you if you send $250 AND if i cant get anything recovered i will SEND IT ALL BACK TO YOU! i think we BOTH just want the community to have the models after all this time.
  78. Renwood: one sec texting him
  79. GodzFire: I don't doubt you Ren, I just need to be careful with my money since I lost my job and haven't been able to find a new one thanks to double digit unemployment rate in my area
  80. Renwood: well if thats the case can you afford $250?
  81. Renwood: i know i cant now hehe
  82. Renwood: ok SWEET he says he can take a look at it this weekend!
  83. Renwood: i told him he will need to work on it in the cleanroom at avnet and he said "Duh"
  84. Renwood: ~8^)
  85. GodzFire: okay
  86. GodzFire: in that case I will go tomorrow first thing in the monring, and transfer 300 to my paypal account
  87. GodzFire: it usually takes a couple of days for that to transfer from my bank to the account
  88. GodzFire: so it should be done in time for the weekend
  89. GodzFire: when it's added to my account I'll transfer 300 to you
  90. GodzFire: So tell your friend that let's schedule it for this weekend then
  91. Renwood: its setup
  92. Renwood: ok sweet! thanks for the help!
  93. GodzFire: I cross my fingers because I just have this sick feeling someone opened the hard drive before and it was improperly exposed
  94. GodzFire: I hope I am dead wrong
  95. Renwood: no they havent
  96. Renwood: you know why?
  97. GodzFire: No I can't say I do
  98. Renwood: because i allready have all the models offa the HD
  99. GodzFire: huh?
  100. Renwood: and i allready paid him to do it months ago
  101. GodzFire: ahh you lost me
  102. Renwood: i was making sure you werent full of shit about wanting to help
  103. GodzFire: oh
  104. GodzFire: heh
  105. Renwood: cause i was exspensive to get them recovered
  106. Renwood: err it was
  107. Renwood: well $250
  108. GodzFire: No no, I was sincere, I actually just bought a 500 gig hard drive for Revan since he might be able to get access to some original content too
  109. Renwood: that beatsthe 2700 they quoted you
  110. GodzFire: well, it helps to have a friend who you helped sod for :-)
  111. Renwood: ill tell you what, ask me to render somebody and ill send you a screenshot of it
  112. GodzFire: This brings up a question
  113. GodzFire: Is this what "The Wind Age" will contain?
  114. Renwood: yes
  115. GodzFire: Hmmm, now it all starts to make sense :-)
  116. Renwood: but ill tell you what, im broke as fuck and we are going to get shut down due to lack of funding for thing like the internet and money for the website
  117. GodzFire: Well, my offer is still geniune
  118. Renwood: so im willing to just give you all the models if you can donate to help us out
  119. Renwood: i have a public FTP set up and evreything
  120. GodzFire: I'll do it first thing tomorrow
  121. Renwood: just remember...
  122. GodzFire: So tell me, how badly damaged was the drive?
  123. Renwood: this is property of take2
  124. GodzFire: Was anything lost?
  125. Renwood: and we COULD get sued for leaking it
  126. Renwood: not that i give a shit
  127. GodzFire: Well to tell you the truth, I have a contact that might have any single thing Bungie and MJ had stored on a crapload of disks
  128. Renwood: the drive was pretty fucked he had to buy the same exact HD and inter change certain parts he said
  129. GodzFire: However I won't have anymore information until late august
  130. Renwood: well nont if that contact is fisj cause i asked him the same thing 2 weeks ago
  131. GodzFire: I can't say anymore than that because I literly could get sued back to the stone age.
  132. GodzFire: It's not
  133. GodzFire: Man Fisj there's an old school name
  134. GodzFire: wasn't he part of VR with Vodi?
  135. Renwood: he rocks
  136. Renwood: knew him since tfl
  137. Renwood: brb
  138. GodzFire: k
  139. Renwood: you dont have wells fargo do you?
  140. GodzFire: ahhh no
  141. GodzFire: Does this mean Road has been rendering the Myth units?
  142. Renwood: its free to wire with them
  143. GodzFire: Because I know he's been rendering units for the wind age project
  144. GodzFire: After I collected all the available M3 unit material, I gave them to Road to look at since Khellek had gone missing in action
  145. Renwood: yes he is working on it
  146. GodzFire: Road created an awesome looking Connacht Llancarfan preview
  147. Renwood: hmm
  148. GodzFire: Crap hold on Ren, a family member came home from work I gotta talk with them quick
  149. Renwood: never saw that
  150. GodzFire: gimme 5 mins
  151. GodzFire: brb
  152. Renwood: ok
  153. Renwood: i will also give you the program that we use called Alias Studio tools 12.0
  154. Renwood: you will need it to use them......unless you can get a copy of poweranimator 8 ...BUT thats SUPER RARE
  155. GodzFire: okay back
  156. Renwood: you also will help the entire community because you can release the models to whoever you want
  157. GodzFire: Yea Road was nice enough to take a look at the M3 material I had avialble
  158. Renwood: i never released them yet cause i wanted to try to get people to help us make them into collections
  159. Renwood: and i figured if i just gave them toevreybody they would just start 1000 solo projects and not help each other
  160. GodzFire: But on his behalf he DID prioritize his work from you first
  161. GodzFire: so don't yell at Road :-)
  162. Renwood: but i really need to money to keep this whole myth 4 thing going
  163. Renwood: so you will convince me with your kind donation ~8^)
  164. GodzFire: I thought you saw the link I posted with all the M3 information
  165. GodzFire: 1 sec lemme retrieve it
  166. Renwood: BTW DO NOT TELL ANYBODY ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  167. Renwood: i know it will be hard to keep it to yourself
  168. GodzFire: Lemme put it this way, who CAN I talk to besides you?
  169. Renwood: but just wait a few days after you get them and you can tell whoever you want
  170. GodzFire: Road i assume
  171. Renwood: you can talk to Road in pm chat or ooga they are on the myth 4 dev team
  172. Renwood: nobody else though
  173. GodzFire: well, I am not going to mention anything to anyone until I can figure out the best way for these to benefit the Myth community and increase it's longevity
  174. Renwood: and certainly NOT any magma types
  175. Renwood: whatever you do dont tell them hehe
  176. GodzFire: I've always maintained that besides the 640x480 interface limitation, the biggest sign of Myth's age is the pixelated units
  177. Renwood: btw did you know ooga moved in with me 4 months ago JUST to work on myth 4 stuff with me
  178. GodzFire: ewww you roomed with Oooga
  179. Renwood: he lived here in phoenix back in 2006 as well to work on myth stuff
  180. GodzFire: I've known Ooga for probably 10 years now
  181. Renwood: how can you not like ooga, he makes the BEST myth collections, and hes pretty good at myth
  182. Renwood: and is one of the most skilled DEVS myth has ever had
  183. GodzFire: back when we were both part of Anicolyte Map Making group with Troll, Soma, Orlando The Axe, and Bloodluster
  184. GodzFire: I miss those guys, Troll especially
  185. GodzFire: I miss a lot of Myth people and groups who are now long gone
  186. Renwood: oogas only problem is he gets mad online easy heh
  187. GodzFire: I have to say I can't remember how long you've been around Ren
  188. GodzFire: I might simply just not have remembered your name from the past
  189. Renwood: i used to have to keep his armys seperate from other players or they would argue the whole match and not kill the enemy
  190. GodzFire: Did you use the name Renwood from the start?
  191. Renwood: i won mwc 98
  192. Renwood: and was around since nov 97
  193. GodzFire: Cause I've been around since TFL Demo
  194. Renwood: thats only a few weeks before me
  195. GodzFire: Do you remember the M1 guild ROKA?
  196. Renwood: do you remember the clan "58th WILD CARDS"
  197. Renwood: ?
  198. GodzFire: I can't say I do, there were so many guilds back in the way
  199. Renwood: roka.....they were japanese?
  200. GodzFire: *day
  201. GodzFire: russian I think
  202. GodzFire: heh
  203. Renwood: hehe Dem was in the 58th with me for years
  204. GodzFire: I just joined them in M1 cause I had a good friend there
  205. Renwood: so yea, i just decided to tell you the truth so you didnt have to worry your pretty little head about wether the money would go down the drain trying to recover the stuff
  206. GodzFire: Here, did you see this post back from May? http://tain.totalcodex.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4325&p=40019
  207. Renwood: i know it would keep ME up at night
  208. Renwood: but please DONT give more then you can afford
  209. GodzFire: This is what I uploaded for everyone
  210. Renwood: anything over $200 is more then i had hoped for
  211. GodzFire: A lot of the models are either missing the animations or the model itself
  212. GodzFire: although a lot of the main ones like Connacht, Damas, Deceiver, Ravana, Moagim have all the pieces
  213. GodzFire: and just need to be rendered
  214. GodzFire: Road was helping to see if it would be possible
  215. Renwood: yea that post is pretty much exactly what i had in mind for our post
  216. GodzFire: I told him he should concentrate on his work for you and Ooga since he said you were paying him :-)
  217. Renwood: ill post them to the public after i give them to you, and you can leak them the same time, that way we can take a part of the blame each heh
  218. GodzFire: Well back to the hard drive, what % do you estimate was recoverable?
  219. GodzFire: Were you pretty lucky?
  220. GodzFire: Was a crushed seek arm the real problem with it?
  221. Renwood: i have wanted to release them for a while now...but your donation will push me over the edge and ill have to release them just to keep our damn website up and be able to pay the internet bill heh
  222. Renwood: it had a place where the arm was like stuck or something on the disc
  223. GodzFire: wow
  224. Renwood: turned out that part didnt have the models on it
  225. Renwood: so yes WE LUCKED OUT!
  226. Renwood: fucking hell i had to bug dem FOR YEARS to send me that HD
  227. Renwood: i started buggin him when he said he had it back in like 2002
  228. GodzFire: I'm surprised it turned out so well
  229. GodzFire: Myth seems to have a tragic history with hard drives
  230. Renwood: dont forget its still a lot of work to make them into useable collections for myth
  231. Renwood: rendering them
  232. Renwood: setting up all the textures
  233. Renwood: making the animations
  234. Renwood: well it has animations
  235. Renwood: but some need to be tweaked a little
  236. Renwood: then haveing to make them into collections with Amber or Oak
  237. GodzFire: so what did the hard drive all have?
  238. GodzFire: just unit models? or other models as well?
  239. GodzFire: old betas? interface material?
  240. Renwood: its got ALL the TFL models from Balor to dwarves
  241. Renwood: and they are in final states
  242. Renwood: the myth 2 models are from some savepoint BEFORE they were ready and in final form for the renders
  243. GodzFire: hmm
  244. Renwood: as in the myth 2 wars have animations and a good model BUT the myth 2 war has shitty textures
  245. Renwood: cause he wasnt finished at the point he was saved
  246. Renwood: the TFL models are from when they were all FINALS so they look great
  247. GodzFire: How much of the 80 gigs was used?
  248. Renwood: its a 4 gig sit folder
  249. GodzFire: holy crap that's it
  250. GodzFire: you're kidding me
  251. Renwood: its got cool stuff though like never before seen concept art
  252. Renwood: and a few units that NOBODY EVER KNEW EXSISTED!
  253. Renwood: like a fucking VAMPIRE!!
  254. GodzFire: actually
  255. Renwood: its a pretty lame skinhead chick with batwings
  256. GodzFire: do you remember the pre-release of TFL?
  257. GodzFire: it talked about a Vampire
  258. GodzFire: I actually made a post on it
  259. GodzFire: 1 sec
  260. Renwood: i only played the first release
  261. GodzFire: Check this out: http://tain.totalcodex.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4462&p=41825#p41825
  262. GodzFire: The Myth Graveyard has the page: http://mything.org/index.php?a=article-read&o=0000002334
  263. GodzFire: And look, lo and behold from the pre-release info: "Vampyrs - Unable to resist their insatiable appetite for human flesh, the Vampyrs can be called in to battle by the Ghol shamans."
  264. Renwood: lol check your e mail...i just sent you a pic of it!
  265. GodzFire: k
  266. GodzFire: wow
  267. GodzFire: that's rather sad
  268. Renwood: isnt it
  269. Renwood: heh
  270. GodzFire: so just lemme get this straight, the entire 80 gig hard drive was empty with the exception of 1, 4 gig sit file
  271. Renwood: ok let me give you my info so you can donate 1 sec heh
  272. GodzFire: which contained all the unit models
  273. Renwood: ill also e mail it to you
  274. GodzFire: yea e-mail is the bset
  275. Renwood: empty?
  276. Renwood: no it had other shit on it
  277. Renwood: i just wanted the 4 gig SIT file
  278. GodzFire: ahhh okay
  279. GodzFire: I was gonna say
  280. Renwood: that had ALL the bungie model stuff
  281. GodzFire: well did the hard drive, besides the sit file contain any other Myth stuff?
  282. Renwood: it wasnt hard to find since it was the biggest single file on the hd hehe
  283. GodzFire: cause I'm also interested in stuff like concept art, interface material
  284. Renwood: its got tons of stuff that was included in the sit
  285. GodzFire: anything
  286. Renwood: like concept art
  287. Renwood: i think the modelers used it to help design the 3D models
  288. Renwood: see how in that shiver pic i sent you she has her concept art behind her?
  289. GodzFire: yea I was wondering about that
  290. Renwood: they even used TEXTURES FROM THE CONCEPT ART FOR THE 3D MODELS!
  291. Renwood: look at the boots shiver has on
  292. Renwood: the match exactly to the concept art bhind her
  293. GodzFire: yea they most likely were staring at the concept art as the modellers made her
  294. Renwood: yea
  295. Renwood: there is a really swet super high res close up of a mual
  296. GodzFire: I just hope that 4 gig sit still opens after all this time
  297. GodzFire: lol how long does it take to unstuff
  298. Renwood: godz..we use it
  299. GodzFire: rofl
  300. Renwood: lets see
  301. Renwood: it takes a while
  302. GodzFire: man I could believe it
  303. Renwood: maybe 15-20
  304. GodzFire: that's not bad I was gonna say like an hour or something
  305. Renwood: maybe longer it was a long ass time
  306. Renwood: i forget i was just so happy it was working!
  307. GodzFire: if it's a 4 gig sit, how big does it unstuff to?
  308. Renwood: 9.80 GB (10,525,573,120 bytes)
  309. GodzFire: So this Studio /AE, is it a sucessor to Powertools?
  310. Renwood: i just checked
  311. GodzFire: err Designstudio?
  312. Renwood: from what i understand poweranim8tor 8.0 was used to create all these models and animations
  313. Renwood: but that company was bought by the people who THEN made Maya
  314. GodzFire: correct
  315. Renwood: and they pulled all the power anim8tor 8.0 off the shelves
  316. GodzFire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerAnimator
  317. Renwood: to help transition people to use Maya
  318. GodzFire: so it transformed into Maya/Studiotools
  319. Renwood: but we use ALias studio tools 12.0
  320. GodzFire: well I guess if it openes the models that's all that counts
  321. Renwood: only problem is its hard to find active forums or anything related to what we are doing
  322. GodzFire: it's a good thing to have Road with you
  323. Renwood: its used for designing concept cars and previs of buldings and fabrication prototypes
  324. GodzFire: I bet Khellek would be great to have aboard too
  325. GodzFire: He told me he could sit down and fully render a unit in a single day
  326. Renwood: he used what program?
  327. GodzFire: He recently popped back on Hotline after visiting his brother in Seattle for a long time
  328. GodzFire: I'm sorry I can't say
  329. GodzFire: If I recall, he used a wide variety
  330. GodzFire: he was the first person I contacted to check out the M3 models
  331. GodzFire: he used 3DS Max for that
  332. GodzFire: I believe he also used Poser and Blender
  333. Renwood: hmmm
  334. Renwood: yea i saw him on hl about 2 months ago
  335. Renwood: i was going to bug him to finish Laws of evil
  336. Renwood: ok so i have only used paypal 1 time to send myrd money is this all you need? "Ren Wood" <*EMAIL REMOVED*
  337. Renwood: err "Ren Wood" *EMAIL REMOVED*
  338. Renwood: i thought you just had to enter the person's e mail address
  339. GodzFire: sorry I had to explain to a family member about the moon landing
  340. Renwood: i used that email account to sign up on paypal
  341. GodzFire: back now
  342. GodzFire: u hear that they confirmed the original Apollo 11 video tapes were erased and recorded over?
  343. Renwood: the originals are from Austraila or some shit
  344. Renwood: because they were the first station to recive and relay them
  345. GodzFire: negative, they were sent to Austrialia back in the 70s for some processing but sent back to NASA after
  346. GodzFire: they then accidently used the tapes to record satelite data on
  347. Renwood: slick
  348. Renwood: so what do you need to be able to send it?
  349. GodzFire: Check out this article, it goes over everything
  350. GodzFire: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106637066
  351. GodzFire: I just need your paypal account
  352. GodzFire: name
  353. Renwood: just the email i signed up on with "Ren Wood" *EMAIL REMOVED*
  354. GodzFire: Tomorrow I will go and transfer 300 dollars to the account I use for paypal, once that's done I will add the funds to my paypal account
  355. GodzFire: that usually takes 3-4 days for whatever reason
  356. Renwood: well dont spend your fucking rent money!
  357. Renwood: heh
  358. GodzFire: I never did get how you could instantly send money to other people when paying for stuff, but it takes like 3-4 days to get the money into your account initially
  359. Renwood: $250 or $300 is fine whatever you can AFFORD to give
  360. Renwood: want the Alias program?
  361. Renwood: i can upload that to our public FTP now so you can start learning it if you want
  362. GodzFire: ugg
  363. GodzFire: modeling
  364. GodzFire: I fear that might be a problem
  365. GodzFire: it's a lot like coding/programming, which I really struggle at
  366. GodzFire: I opened up 3DS Max and tried to look around with it with one of the M3 models
  367. GodzFire: I had no idea at all how to do anything
  368. GodzFire: It's like a janitor looking at a nasa control console and asked to coach the shuttle to orbit
  369. GodzFire: Kinda off topic, but you should really uninstall that Windows Desktop Search. It's a huge process drain and takes up a lot of uneeded resources
  370. Renwood: sorry had to make some hotdogs
  371. Renwood: num num numn
  372. Renwood: yea
  373. Renwood: thats a fucking POS
  374. Renwood: windows search
  375. GodzFire: U wanna know how to remove it?
  376. Renwood: y!
  377. GodzFire: I'm a Computer Support Specialist by default
  378. GodzFire: err by profession
  379. GodzFire: I'm an IT dude, there u go :-0
  380. GodzFire: it's actually really easy, open up your add/remove programs
  381. Renwood: am i wanna be video game producer
  382. GodzFire: near the bottom of the list should be something called "Windows Desktop Search"
  383. GodzFire: uninstall that
  384. Renwood: and former tae kwon do instructor
  385. GodzFire: it might ask if u want to delete the search index, say yes or you'll have a big index chunk left
  386. GodzFire: I think it also gives you the option to restart now or later, you can just choose later
  387. GodzFire: That thing is horrible, Microsoft made it so it's installed by default through windows update
  388. Renwood: yea
  389. Renwood: i noticed
  390. GodzFire: They mislead you because it's NOT something that's required
  391. Renwood: ooga and i allways bitched about how fucking shitty normal windows "find" option was
  392. Renwood: seems microsoft finaly noticed and made something even worse
  393. GodzFire: Lemme know when u tried to uninstall it, I just want to make sure it went okay for you
  394. Renwood: ill save this chat and do it later
  395. GodzFire: roger
  396. Renwood: these hotdogs were good
  397. GodzFire: I have one more question Ren, do you really plan on uploading 9 gigs of stuff?
  398. Renwood: they are cheese filled and i used fank's hot sauce cause i have no mustard!
  399. GodzFire: If you're ISP has a bandwidth limitation you might hit it
  400. Renwood: its 4 gigs in .sit format
  401. Renwood: i have quite the pro setup
  402. GodzFire: hmm true
  403. Renwood: i can upload and DL anything i want
  404. GodzFire: still, 4 gigs is a pretty big upload as well
  405. Renwood: and i have like 3 terabytes of bandwitdh per month on my http://www.myth4thewindage.com AND ftp server
  406. Renwood: its no sweat ~8^)
  407. GodzFire: I'm curious, did Bungie make the watcher model animated? or was it always just that one stoned sequence?
  408. Renwood: just make sure your comp is set up to DL such large files
  409. Renwood: sometimes you need to increase the file size or page file size that windwos temp can use
  410. Renwood: cause it puts DL's in the temp folder untill they are done dling and then copies them or some thing to where you tld it to go
  411. GodzFire: I'm fine, I have a Mac Pro, duel 2.6 ghz Intel Xeon processors with 4 gigs of RAM
  412. Renwood: o DER BTW i can also send you a DVD with the files!
  413. Renwood: if the file uploadin wont work
  414. GodzFire: as long as you are cool with uploading that should be fine
  415. Renwood: it should work fine
  416. GodzFire: you might want to start tonight, I'm sure it will take a few days to finish
  417. Renwood: yea
  418. GodzFire: took me a day to upload the 620 Myth3 app to Hotline
  419. Renwood: ill start it tonight
  420. Renwood: well do you have a website?
  421. GodzFire: I do not
  422. Renwood: ok i was gonna say get it ready for these files but never mind hehe
  423. Renwood: remember dont talk to ANYBODY about this
  424. GodzFire: Yes Ren you got it
  425. Renwood: when you have it in your hot little hands you can tell and give them to whoever you want
  426. GodzFire: How does the Avatara model look?
  427. Renwood: let me send you the pic!
  428. GodzFire: cool
  429. GodzFire: It will be nice to get a more smooth Forest Giant, it was my favorite unti from M1 and was sad when it didn't make it into M2
  430. GodzFire: Balor was another one which seemed to be rather low on frames
  431. Renwood: whats your e mail again?
  432. GodzFire: *EMAIL REMOVED*
  433. GodzFire: like he had a stick up his butt or something
  434. Renwood: ok i just e mailed you some more pics
  435. GodzFire: checking now
  436. Renwood: that war is the unfinished myth 2 war
  437. Renwood: the TFL war looks better
  438. Renwood: might take a min it was bigger then before
  439. GodzFire: got it
  440. GodzFire: checking now
  441. GodzFire: what the heck is with alric's face
  442. Renwood: hehes
  443. Renwood: he looks like a lego toy
  444. GodzFire: dear lord
  445. Renwood: i think hes ment to be wearing a MASK
  446. GodzFire: hmm the dirigible was a puffed up wight
  447. Renwood: btw i just gave you my private E mail
  448. Renwood: please dont use that one as a contact for public records
  449. GodzFire: okay
  450. Renwood: use *EMAIL REMOVED* for public
  451. Renwood: and *EMAIL REMOVED* is what i signed up with paypal
  452. Renwood: as "Ren Wood"
  453. Renwood: brb
  454. GodzFire: what the hell, a jellyfish?
  455. Renwood: heh brb
  456. GodzFire: k
  457. GodzFire: Ren, our dinner's ready and I am gonna go eat with the family. I'll probably be back in 30 mins or so at the top of the hour
  458. Renwood: sweet yea nice talking to you! im glad i got on HL ~8^)
  459. Renwood: ok i e mailed you my exact paypal info
  460. Renwood: o btw in the end when people ask just tell them IF you want to, that you helped pay for the HD recovery because your ARE helping with those costs. i got it recovered about months ago
  461. Renwood: err months ago
  462. Renwood: hmm 5?
  463. Renwood: yes about 5 months ago
  464. GodzFire: I'm back, watching TV with the family, if you have anything you need, just come on Hotline. I'm on almost everyday, it's the best way to contact me
  465. GodzFire: If I don't talk to u before then, I'll get the bank stuff going tomorrow
  466. Renwood: sweet ill upload alias and the myth models to our ftp tonight!
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  473. Renwood: bloop!
  474. GodzFire: Hey Ren
  475. Renwood: sup gods
  476. Renwood: ok i started uploading it 7 hours ago
  477. GodzFire: I transferred 300 dollars to my Paypal account from my bank about 10 minutes ago
  478. GodzFire: unfortunately it will take 3-5 days to complete
  479. GodzFire: however
  480. GodzFire: I currently I have 175 still left in my account
  481. GodzFire: which I will transfer to you right now
  482. GodzFire: I had forgotten I made a few eBay purchases
  483. Renwood: sure
  484. Renwood: i thought evreybody switched to criagslist
  485. Renwood: !
  486. Renwood: ~8^)
  487. GodzFire: nah I have no need for a prostitute or blow up doll
  488. GodzFire: Paypal account = *EMAIL REMOVED* right?
  489. Renwood: what about a USED blow up doll only 2 blocks away?
  490. Renwood: lets see yes thats the right E mail and my first name and last name on paypal is "Ren Wood"
  491. GodzFire: Okay
  492. GodzFire: money transferred
  493. GodzFire: check your account to confirm
  494. Renwood: 1 sec
  495. Renwood: wow thanks!
  496. GodzFire: I take it the transfer was a sucess?
  497. Renwood: yea it says its in there and they only took out 5.81 for a fee!
  498. Renwood: not too shabby
  499. Renwood: now i just have to figure out how to make that go into my bank account that i linked to it yesterday
  500. GodzFire: Well, hopefully that's enough to renew the website until the rest of my funds get transfered
  501. GodzFire: Why not just pay your server fee with paypal?
  502. Renwood: yea the website is $120
  503. Renwood: i dunno much about paypal
  504. Renwood: this is the second time ive used it
  505. GodzFire: I never used Paypal until about 3 years ago
  506. GodzFire: before that I'd use money orders for eBay acutions
  507. GodzFire: but Paypal is just great, because you can instantly pay for stuff
  508. GodzFire: and Paypal is used by a lot of businesses
  509. Renwood: i think i will be able to pay the website hosting bill now and half of what i owe for the cable internet i have at the house
  510. Renwood: so its still uploading cause it went from like 300k a sec down to like 35k a sec
  511. GodzFire: What is your hosting website? You can check if they accept paypal
  512. GodzFire: if they do they will have an e-mail address to use
  513. Renwood: i bet they take paypal, its just the account is set up and linked to my credit card
  514. Renwood: godz im really glad you contacted me
  515. Renwood: O and BTW i saw your PM last night
  516. Renwood: from a month ago
  517. GodzFire: last night?
  518. GodzFire: oh
  519. Renwood: was it on magma?
  520. GodzFire: Yea
  521. GodzFire: I also sent it I believe through the e-mail provided there
  522. GodzFire: maybe check your profile settings to make sure your stuff is up to date
  523. Renwood: yea i was looking for the address to the public FTP toxyn made for the myth models
  524. Renwood: because we wanted to be ready to release them sometime in the next few months to the public
  525. GodzFire: Toxyn?
  526. Renwood: yes hes our website admin/creator
  527. GodzFire: So who exactly all knows about these models
  528. GodzFire: best to get me a list
  529. Renwood: our team is: Renwood, Ooga, Toxyn, CLassic, Corbeau, brutesqaud
  530. Renwood: and Road
  531. Renwood: how can i forget
  532. GodzFire: And they all know about these models then?
  533. Renwood: no
  534. Renwood: just me ooga toxyn classic and road
  535. Renwood: and you hehe
  536. GodzFire: okay that's what I wanted to know
  537. Renwood: remember
  538. GodzFire: Yes tell no one for now
  539. Renwood: DONT SAY ANYTHING!!!!!!!! to ANYmyther!! not even your best tfl bud from back in the day
  540. Renwood: cause they will spill the beans
  541. GodzFire: I don't have any TFL buds left :-(
  542. Renwood: heh
  543. GodzFire: yea your upload speed is gonna be sucky
  544. Renwood: like i said though after you get the models you can do whatever you want with them
  545. GodzFire: my max is about 40-50k
  546. Renwood: and give them to whoever
  547. GodzFire: so u are gonna be uploading for a LOOONG time
  548. Renwood: i dont think so....but the damn thing isnt saying how far along it is
  549. GodzFire: I hope you have a resume feature in case you don't disconnect
  550. GodzFire: err in case you do
  551. GodzFire: are you using FTP?
  552. Renwood: like i said i can allways send you a DVD with the files on it to if needed
  553. Renwood: yes its FTP
  554. GodzFire: okay good
  555. GodzFire: it doesn't show you how much it's transfered?
  556. GodzFire: in megabytes?
  557. Renwood: wow im excited!!! wooo!
  558. Renwood: lets see
  559. GodzFire: actually you mind if I grab the FTP info?
  560. GodzFire: I can check from my end
  561. GodzFire: lemme open Cyberduck
  562. GodzFire: okay ready
  563. Renwood: ok well heres the deal, ill give you the myth models for this money you just sent
  564. Renwood: and ill give you the PROGRAM that you will need to USE them or even look at them when you send the rest
  565. GodzFire: okay
  566. GodzFire: sure that sounds fair
  567. Renwood: that way you can rest easy with the models
  568. GodzFire: Well I'm also pretty interested in the concept art and stuff
  569. GodzFire: give me time to sort through the stuff
  570. Renwood: now im giving you our PRIVATE FTP
  571. Renwood: cause i cant for the life of me find where the fuck toxy said the new public one is
  572. GodzFire: no worries, I have to keep information locked up in my head all the time when I work in IT
  573. Renwood: ok lets see 1 sec
  574. GodzFire: k
  575. Renwood: yes it looks like the myth models.sit in finished
  576. Renwood: allthough it closed cute FTP when it was done dling
  577. Renwood: hmm
  578. Renwood: ok well how about this please give me 1 day to get it all set up before you tell anybody or give them away to anybody else. we were going to make an announcement on our website saying we were working with the bungie models and that we needed help from anybody who would like to work on them
  579. Renwood: so help get the myth 4 thing done
  580. GodzFire: Ren I really don't plan on telling anyone for at least a few weeks
  581. Renwood: no no dont wait that long
  582. GodzFire: my main goal is to sort everything out and make some backups
  583. Renwood: i tell you this because magma has these files as well and they DONT want to give them to the public because they are pussys
  584. GodzFire: I'm happy to take it slow to figure out the best possible way to address these
  585. Renwood: im going against what they want, but FUCK they DIDNT make these models! its bungie/take2/myth community property!
  586. GodzFire: Don't worry I really don't have any problem waiting
  587. GodzFire: You have my word
  588. Renwood: wee!
  589. GodzFire: You also have my money :-)
  590. GodzFire: heh
  591. Renwood: also dont tell anybody our ftp pass heh
  592. Renwood: ok heres the info
  593. GodzFire: Of course Ren, I know it's important
  594. Renwood: Address: *INFO REMOVED* <-- do not put ftp, http or www before that
  595. Renwood: Login: *INFO REMOVED*
  596. Renwood: Password: *INFO REMOVED*
  597. Renwood: then go to uploads
  598. Renwood: then go to apps
  599. Renwood: its in there
  600. GodzFire: okay I'm in, lemme check this out
  601. GodzFire: moment please
  602. GodzFire: okay I see a 790.5 meg sit called Myth Models
  603. Renwood: 790?
  604. GodzFire: yes
  605. Renwood: damnit
  606. Renwood: wheres it say that?
  607. GodzFire: I can try to download it to see if it opens ok
  608. GodzFire: it looks to be completed
  609. GodzFire: it doesn't have a partial upload icon
  610. Renwood: one sec let me call toxyn on his cell, it should be 3-4 gigs
  611. Renwood: hmm
  612. Renwood: i think our ftp has no size limit
  613. GodzFire: I'm downloading it, and will see if the sit opens
  614. GodzFire: if it doesn't I'll let you know
  615. GodzFire: it looks to be complete though, we'll see
  616. Renwood: yea that cant be though its fucking 4 gig sit file on my desktop
  617. Renwood: allthough it was uploading for over 7 hours
  618. Renwood: i just think its not complete because cute ftp seems to have closed itself
  619. GodzFire: well, it's at 38%, so when it's done I'll let you know if the sit decides to open
  620. Renwood: i went to see if it was still dling, and i had to reopen cute ftp...
  621. Renwood: well i can go put a dvd in the mail right now if you give me a mailing address
  622. GodzFire: Where do you live?
  623. GodzFire: Wisconsin here
  624. Renwood: phoenix
  625. Renwood: should take 2-3 maybe 4 days even the cheap rate
  626. GodzFire: might as well send a copy
  627. GodzFire: here the info, I'll have it to go a business location since someone is always there
  628. GodzFire: *INFO REMOVED*
  629. Renwood: ok, i am also reuploading the myth models .sit to the art folder
  630. Renwood: it shouldnt be 790 megs
  631. Renwood: its fucking 4 gigs
  632. GodzFire: I'll send you a bit extra money if you can send it through a faster method than media mail
  633. Renwood: ok well i have a burnt DVD with the models on them as backup, ill send that right now. and keep working on the FTP upload
  634. GodzFire: okay
  635. Renwood: i also left voice mails on toxyn's cell phone to call me
  636. GodzFire: Alrighty, well I'll be around pretty much all day
  637. Renwood: i was wondering if there was a size limit on our private ftp. since i had told him to set up a NEW PUBLIC ftp for this 4 gig myth models.sit
  638. GodzFire: brb 4-5 mins
  639. Renwood: ok im going to the post office to mail that right now
  640. Renwood: bbl
  641. GodzFire: k I'll be around
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