evorts chatter

[20:42]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> Whats Immans and what's Iamman?
[20:42]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> Iamman
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> Might have been a typo in the loadscreen
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> i think a UI reset is still hardcoded
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> Irrelevant as of new spring version anyway
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> zomg
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> Godde, no it isn't
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> chat font is so small
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> It's taken straight from zk
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> sop if zk does it
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> then yes
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> how can I make it bigger?
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> but since it doesn't
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> then no
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> end of story.
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> you said before you had trouble so you hardcoded a reset
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> okey
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> chat font is small?
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> not for me
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> how do i disable the reset?
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> :P
[20:43]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> the only problem is that I dont have a scrollbar in chat
[20:44]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> That was before I tossed damn near all the relevant gui lua in evo
[20:44]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> its super small for me
[20:44]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> and took straight from zk so people would stfu about it
[20:44]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> and resource bar crashed when resizing hehe
[20:44]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> so whatever zk does, evo does
[20:44]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> skasi... that's because of docking
[20:44]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> it was broken in zk when i took it
[20:44]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> but you said you didn't take the new chili
[20:44]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> goddamnit
[20:44]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> is green circle at start buildrange?
[20:44]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> like in nota?
[20:44]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> yes
[20:45]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> yes
[20:45]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> car, feel free to look at commit logs
[20:45]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> and then do the math on dates
[20:45]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <ikinz> why do you two have to fight over some silly issues all the time
[20:45]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> obviously I did this before zk moved to FTL chili
[20:45]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> yay areamex works
[20:46]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> oh unit can move
[20:46]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> is there new eye candy?
[20:46]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> or new models?
[20:46]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> something looks improved or new :D
[20:46]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> selected buildings are so bright
[20:46]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> dang lol
[20:47]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> or newest graphics drivers are improved ;)
[20:47]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> new lego skin
[20:47]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> hmm can not build anything other than con?
[20:47]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> dang
[20:47]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> ah I love it
[20:47]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> skasi, you need powah
[20:47]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> whats circle around powerplant?
[20:47]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> power radius
[20:47]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> is it your first evo game?
[20:48]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> I still can not build
[20:48]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> it's like the grid. hook up your factory to the grid (?)
[20:48]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> you need to build them arround your factory
[20:48]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> no its not, burp
[20:48]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> but there was no power like that back then
[20:48]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> the skins is just awesome
[20:49]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> asdf
[20:51]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> asdf
[20:51]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> unit sizes are way off
[20:51]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> 5x as big is just as poweful
[20:51]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> ven weaker
[20:51]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> sigh
[20:51]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> i hate clear chat, i have to move the camera around to find a place so i can read it
[20:52]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> Size does not equal power. Not even in real life
[20:52]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> can i make opaque?
[20:52]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> I dunno what youre trying to argue about
[20:52]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> car you are welcome to disable it and go to engine chat
[20:52]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> i
[20:52]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> i'll include chilichat locally instead :P
[20:53]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> why do all unit icons look the same :(
[20:53]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel They don't
[20:53]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel Each tech has it's own icon
[20:53]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 * Ally team 0 won! (Skasi, Godde)
[20:53]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 *   Damage award:  Godde  (total damage: 50835)        [ OWNAGE! ]
[20:53]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 *   Eco award:     Godde  (resources produced: 163K.)
[20:53]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 *   Micro award:   Godde  (damage efficiency: 283%)    [ OWNAGE! ]
[20:53]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 * Server stopped (running time: 11 minutes and 50 seconds)
[20:53]  CarRepairer end graphs are awesome
[20:53]  Skasi meh thats odd gameplay
[20:53]  Godde !gg
[20:53]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 * Invalid command "gg"
[20:54]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel radar tells you what type of unit are here or there, not exactly what
[20:54]  Skasi yeah, why?
[20:54]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel Because
[20:54]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel THis si a game about strategy and tactics
[20:54]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel information plays a critical role
[20:54]  ikinz how do you spam so much stuff
[20:54]  Skasi ?
[20:54]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 * Demo file uploaded to http://replays.springrts.com/replay/d4501a525890b68a1be7e32b9acfa0cb
[20:54]  Skasi information is important, so its not displayed?
[20:55]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel ikinz, he gets us on the backfoot, expands like mad, and then starts churning out orbs
[20:55]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel Information is important, so you have to remember what you've seen
[20:55]  Skasi I dont understand what you mean
[20:55]  Skasi but then again, I dont get the mod either
[20:55]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel Army composition is EVERYTHING
[20:55]  Skasi yes
[20:55]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel that said
[20:55]  Skasi so why do all my units look the same?
[20:55]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel radar tells you what type
[20:55]  Skasi I cant even tell them appart
[20:56]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel Well I can't tell zk units apart
[20:56]  Skasi yes you can
[20:56]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel Like I can't tell s44 units apart
[20:56]  CarRepairer i'm with Skasi, unfortunately
[20:56]  Skasi all icons look different
[20:56]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel Of course you can, because you play zk all the time
[20:56]  Skasi s44 icons look different too
[20:56]  Skasi no, not because of that
[20:56]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel I can tell evo units apart plain as day
[20:56]  Skasi icons look different
[20:56]  Skasi anybody can tell them appart
[20:56]  Skasi no you cant
[20:56]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel Ummm, yes... I can.
[20:56]  Skasi really?
[20:57]  Godde Forb wants units to just be blobs when they are ouf of LoS
[20:57]  Godde regardless if you have spotted them or not
[20:57]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel Not blobs
[20:57]  Godde dots
[20:57]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel they turn into shapes if you spot them\
[20:57]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel but they don't tell you exactly what
[20:57]  Godde blobs also have feelings
[20:57]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel they are
[20:57]  Skasi why?
[20:57]  Godde i mean shape
[20:57]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel Skasi
[20:57]  Skasi so you cant tell them apart either?
[20:57]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel strategy and tactics
[20:57]  Skasi HA
[20:58]  Skasi [20:54]  Skasi information is important, so its not displayed?
[20:58]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel We are talking radar icons dude...
[20:58]  Skasi sure
[20:58]  Skasi what else?
[20:58]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel Oh my fuckign god
[20:58]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel have you ever played anyhting besides ta and zk?
[20:58]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel Any other strategy game?
[20:58]  Skasi TA?
[20:58]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel C&C? Starcraft?
[20:58]  Skasi yea
[20:58]  Anarchid zk icons have a pretty straightforward scheme
[20:58]  Skasi units look different on all these games
[20:59]  Anarchid (some are distinctive enough to cause nightmares)
[20:59]  [Evo]Forboding_Angel I honestly don't know why i bother with people in spring
[20:59]  CarRepairer i don't like zk icons either
[20:59]  Skasi ah well
[20:59]  Anarchid what's wrong with people in spring?
*** It is now 21:00.
[21:00]  Anarchid btw, only objection i have to evo icons is that they are different size
[21:00]  Skasi that too
[21:00]  Anarchid like, grossly different, some are like a few pixels only while others (cons for example) are hueg
[21:00]  Skasi haha did you see my units? they were huge
[21:00]  Skasi but icon size is same as unit size
[21:00]  Anarchid i already raised the "costlier things should look bigger" notion, but apparently it isn't so
[21:00]  Skasi my unit models were huge too
[21:01]  Godde icon size scales automaticallyby some arbitrary mesurement on the model of the unit
[21:01]  Godde i think it was height
[21:01]  Godde have they fixed it yet?
[21:02]  Godde so you can adjust to what you want?
[21:02]  Skasi uuh icon size is defined by the mod, no?
[21:02]  CarRepairer Anarchid: skuttle in zk is very costly
[21:02]  Skasi and bigger than flea
[21:02]  Skasi :)
[21:02]  Anarchid afaik mod can set its own
[21:03]  Skasi I think Anarchid meant a mix of cost and hp
[21:03]  CarRepairer but it's smaller than scorcher
[21:03]  Skasi aka weight
[21:03]  Anarchid my simple mind believes that more cost = more size = more icon
[21:03]  Anarchid scuttle is larger than flea!
[21:03]  CarRepairer i just said skuttle
[21:03]  Anarchid and bulkier than glaive
[21:03]  CarRepairer is it bulkier than scorcher?
[21:04]  CarRepairer i had this huge argument a long time ago
[21:04]  CarRepairer and i lost
[21:04]  CarRepairer because metal cost != HP
[21:04]  Skasi WEIGHT
[21:04]  CarRepairer metal cost = HP, high tech weaponry, abilities
[21:04]  Skasi you all mean weight! its a mix of hp and cost! :)
[21:04]  CarRepairer dominatrix has zero weapons and almost no hp
[21:05]  CarRepairer well that's not true, but it doesn't have high hp
[21:05]  Godde !cv start
[21:05]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 * Godde called a vote for command "start" [!vote y, !vote n, !vote b]
[21:05]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 * User(s) allowed to vote: ikinz
[21:05]  Godde !y
[21:05]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 * Invalid command "y"
[21:05]  CarRepairer but it costs a lot for what it can do
[21:05]  Godde !vote y
[21:05]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 * Godde, you are not allowed to vote for current vote, or you have already voted.
[21:05]  ikinz !vote y
[21:05]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 * Vote for command "start" passed.
[21:05]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 * Launching game...
[21:05]  CarRepairer metal cost = price, like dollars or euros
[21:05]  Skasi I can only think of two exceptions for "hp and cost", that's jack and ulti
[21:05]  Skasi nah, metal cost = resource
[21:05]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> all my settings
[21:05]  Skasi not like dollars or euros
[21:05]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> reloaded
[21:06]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> ;_;
[21:06]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> geez this ui is so zomg
[21:06]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> my build menu is super big
[21:06]  Anarchid domi can survive a scalpel strike in zk
[21:06]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 * Warning: in-game IP address does not match lobby IP address for user [Evo]Forboding_Angel (spoof protection)
[21:06]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> but chat font tiny
[21:06]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> haaa, i complained about zomghuge integral menu since i ever saw evo
[21:06]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> it's much smaller now btw
[21:06]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> copy chilichat from zk and put it in your local :P
[21:06]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <ikinz> the build menu should be like 1/3 of the screen width
[21:06]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> it used to take half screen
[21:07]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> good luck
[21:07]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> have fun
[21:07]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> bad luck
[21:07]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> have misery
[21:07]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> selecting huge buildings makes me blind al the time lol
[21:07]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> thats what gamers mean
[21:07]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> when they say gl hf
[21:07]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> not me
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> yea not you
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> you are the only exception
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> I hate how selection box doesnt select factory
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> :D
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> :(
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> when i say good luck i mean it
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> it's a widget
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> disable it :)
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> skasi, press shift
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[I]burp> I believe it, but only you ^^
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> "smart selections"
[21:08]  CarRepairer when Godde says it it means "i will win but i'll say good luck anyway"
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> they need it if they are gonna put up a good fight
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> :P
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> It's smart selections based onw hat has a weapon
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> oh thanks, FA
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> are selection circles around fac supposed to be so bright?
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> I almost cant believe it
[21:08]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> or you can press and hold z to only select other units exactly liek what youa lready ahve selected
[21:09]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> maybe my graphics are bugged
[21:09]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> skasi, your gamma is fucked.
[21:09]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> Fix it, then ask me.
[21:09]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> nah my gamma is nice
[21:09]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> No, your gamma is fucekd.
[21:09]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> i'd recommend screenshots
[21:09]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> nah my gamma is nice
[21:09]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> no one cares about your gammy
[21:09]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> screenshots won't show gamma
[21:09]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> forget gammy
[21:09]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> software gamma? sure they will
[21:09]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> just forget about gammy, no one cares
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> is selection circle around factory (when selected) white for anyone else?
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> no I'm sure his windows gamma is all fucked up
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> psychic mode engaged
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> he has probably never done a display calibration
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> lol
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> FA is selection white for you?
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> yes.
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> then its not fucked up for me
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> lol
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> gamma
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> stop your gamma blah blah
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> you don't ahve a clue what gamma actually is.
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> forb i am not able to set local widget config
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> i believe the color white IS the object of scasie's complaint
[21:10]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> stop your trolling already would you
[21:11]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> is that on purpose?
[21:11]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> hes just bad at saying that
[21:11]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> hmm if my gamma is too high
[21:11]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> then why do many units appear very dark?
[21:11]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> buildings on zoomout appear dark because of decal
[21:12]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> nah not that
[21:12]  * EvoRTSDedicated2 * Hi __nemo__ (Beginner), welcome to EvoRTSDedicated2 (SPADS 0.10.6g, automated host).
[21:12]  CarRepairer forb did you purposely not include local widget config?
[21:13]  CarRepairer [Evo]Forboding_Angel
[21:16]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> why am i not building stuff?
[21:16]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> lose some
[21:16]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> max units 100?
[21:16]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> lo
[21:16]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> lol
[21:16]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> lol
[21:16]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <ikinz> send your stuff to me
[21:16]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> lozl
[21:16]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> lel
[21:16]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <CarRepairer> lyl
[21:16]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> yes 100
[21:16]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> I counted
[21:17]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Godde> server limit
[21:17]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> lol
[21:17]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> game limit
[21:17]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Skasi> gg
[21:17]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> gunships do only 32 damage per shot to buildings
[21:18]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> the missiles have limited range
[21:18]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> i kinda expected you to go experimentals after hitting the limit
[21:18]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> i never saw an evo experimental
[21:18]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> if you micro your air you can outrun the missiles
[21:18]  EvoRTSDedicated2 <Anarchid> i tried to make one, but they resigned