03:28 <+kyren> I'm here
03:28 <+kyren> but working
03:40 < Seiga> yeh ever have one of those days
03:40 < Seiga> where you really don't wanna go to careers advice and just wanna stay home and rub cats on your face
03:41 <+kyren> my cats rub themselves on my face without any action from me
03:42 < Whiteluigi> I have no cat and neither can I have one.
03:42 <+bartwe> i guess i can stream if you guys are bored
03:43 < Whiteluigi> Streams don't work at my workplace and I don't know why as they worked before.
03:44 < Whiteluigi> But when I have nothing to do while at work, I get to learn a bit of C++.
03:51 <+kyren> don't do it Whiteluigi
03:51 <+kyren> learn you a haskell
03:51 <+kyren> learn scheme
03:52 <+kyren> learn python, ruby, go
03:52 < sb10> kyren: why?
03:52 <+kyren> to preserve your mind
03:52 <+kyren> and sanity
03:52 < sb10> Aha-ha.. :)
03:53 <+bartwe> i keep telling people to learn c#, java, scheme, C, python. everything but c++ :)
03:53 < sb10> yet they keep coming.. :)
03:54 <+kyren> WTB another systems programming language
03:54 < Seiga> I don't actually have a cat
03:54 <+kyren> next game, D
03:54 <+kyren> or scheme
03:54 <+bartwe> scheme
03:54 <+bartwe> no perf at all
03:55 <+kyren> hahaha
03:55 <+kyren> scheme with c++ bindings
03:55 <+kyren> or something
03:55 <+kyren> I want perf :<
03:55 <+bartwe> i need a way to kick some changes between machines without making a new branch ....
03:55 <+kyren> yeah I want that too
03:55 <+kyren> I think you can just commit and then pull from a different repository
03:55 < Whiteluigi> I am slowly learning Java by modding Minecraft.
03:55 <+kyren> where the other repository is your other machine
03:55 <+kyren> that's awful Whiteluigi I'm so sorry
03:56 < Whiteluigi> I had to start somewhere.
03:56 < Seiga> programmer talk oh no
03:56 < Seiga> where the artists at
03:56 < Whiteluigi> Lol.
03:56 <+kyren> micecraft is fine, it's just, who the hell calls "decompiling and patching .class files" modding
03:56 <+kyren> "decompiling and patching *obfuscated* .class files"
03:56 <+bartwe> ok
03:56 <+bartwe> valgrind tiems
03:56 < Whiteluigi> I've never heard of Micecraft.
03:57 < sb10> Whiteluigi: start with a book "Pragmatic Programmer. From Journeyman to Master."
03:57 <+kyren> Minecraft
03:57 < Whiteluigi> Hehe.
03:57 < Whiteluigi> Is the book in PDF format?
03:57 <+kyren> I have the most interesting typos
03:57 < Whiteluigi> Or is it a physical book.
03:58 < sb10> Whiteluigi: I think you can get pdf
03:58 < Whiteluigi> That makes things easier.
03:58 < sb10> I have one, at least.
03:59  * Whiteluigi sends the title of the book to his home desktop through query.
03:59 < sb10> Probably I should upload it back to internet, so some others man can read it.
04:01 < sb10> this one: http://www.amazon.com/The-Pragmatic-Programmer-Journeyman-Master/dp/020161622X
04:06 < C-C-C-C-Crash> Yo.
04:07 < Whiteluigi> It's funny that people say that I can learn all programming languages but C++.
04:07 < C-C-C-C-Crash> C++, isn't that supposed to be the hardest?
04:07 < Whiteluigi> Really? I didn't knew.
04:08 < Whiteluigi> I started slowly learning C++ because a friend of mine started to learn C++ and that we would make a test game in C++ together.
04:09 < Whiteluigi> Should I tell him that we should use Java instead?
04:10 < sb10> Whiteluigi: nope. C++ is fine actually, yet it's extremely frustrating to work with.
04:10 < Whiteluigi> O.o
04:12 < Whiteluigi> To be honest, I miss the part where methods starts with public, private or protected which one have to do in Java.
04:15 < sb10> Any language is fine actually. It's not hard to learn new language of a same paradigm.
04:18 < Whiteluigi> Languages that I have been into: Visual Basic, Java, JavaScript (tried to make an IRC Bot) and C++.
04:20 < Whiteluigi> I think I also tried to make an IRC Bot on C#, but it failed more than my JS attempt.
04:20 < Whiteluigi> I didn't try the IRC Bot on any official IRC Servers just as you know.
04:23 < sb10> You certainly should keep trying that's the way to learn :)
04:23 < Whiteluigi> Learn through failing.
04:24 <+kyren> yeah, once you learn enough languages it stops being a thing
04:24 <+kyren> I mean, it's still neat
04:24 <+kyren> they all have good stuff going for them
04:24 <+kyren> any language that is popular is popular for some reason
04:24 < Whiteluigi> I also don't do copy/paste as I won't learn anything by doing copy/paste.
04:25 <+kyren> and C++ is fine, extremely useful, it's just the most complex language..
04:25 <+kyren> I think that's the end of that sentence
04:25 <+kyren> it's the most complex programming language
04:26 <+kyren> other than ones written on purpose to be complex I guess
04:26 <+kyren> it's not a good start
04:26 < sb10> Yep. Failing is bad, you should pick task that is "completable" for you, and then increase difficulty. Constantly failing leads to despair.
04:26 < Gameinsky> I have a friend who programs that finds C++ absolutely awful
04:26 <+kyren> don't get too hung up on which languages are better / worse, it usually doesn't even work like that
04:26 <+kyren> usually
04:27 <+kyren> but it's a good idea to pick one that's easy to start with I guess
04:27 <+kyren> we're just trying to keep you from getting bogged down in stuff you shouldn't care about
04:27 <+kyren> and on to actually finishing things and having fun
04:27 < Whiteluigi> I don't think about which language is better, I choose the language that could be interesting to try out.
04:29 < Whiteluigi> I also sometimes look up tutorials.
04:30 <+kyren> have you tried inventwithpython.org
04:30 <+kyren> er, whoops
04:30 <+kyren> inventwithpython.com
04:30 < Benguin> 'lo Devvie
04:30 < Whiteluigi> I believe I don't have.
04:31 <+kyren> that one's pretty good
04:31 <+kyren> easy to follow
04:31 <+kyren> lots of room for experimentation, gentile
04:31 <+kyren> and you can do so so so much with just what they teach you
04:31 <+kyren> it's not too interactive, though
04:31 <+kyren> like, there aren't assignments
04:31 < Whiteluigi> Sounds very interesting.
04:32 <+kyren> my wife is learning programming right now, that's why I know of it
04:32 <+kyren> I have her going through The Elements of Computing Systems also, which is a bit advanced but it's crazy how good she is at it
04:32 < DevilBro> hey
04:33 < Whiteluigi> One get good at something if one are dedicated to do it.
04:34 <+kyren> if mspa doesn't update soon I'm going to have a breakdown
04:34 < Whiteluigi> O.o
04:35  * psychotwo wakes
04:35  * DevilBro stabs Benguin
04:36  * Benguin starts crying and yelling something incomprehensible about bacon
04:36 < Seiga> mspa has exceeded the extra week
04:36 < Seiga> oh no
04:36 < Benguin> !!!!
04:36 < Whiteluigi> Why are there so much stabbing in this chat?
04:37 < sb10> Finally! A C++ bug is down!
04:37  * DevilBro stabs Whiteluigi
04:37 < DevilBro> no clue
04:37 < sb10> sizeof(strbuf) then strbuf is a pointer! Duh!
04:38  * Whiteluigi starts bleeding.
04:38 < Whiteluigi> This is just brilliant.
04:38 <+kyren> yeah, strbuf something[10];
04:38 <@Tiyuri> huhlig-work
04:38 <@Tiyuri> huhlig-home
04:38 <@Tiyuri> are you around?
04:38 <+kyren> er, derp
04:38 <+kyren> char strbuf[10];
04:39 < Smaxx_> bad sb10 :P
04:39 <+kyren> sizeof(strbuf) != strbuf((char*)strbuf)
04:39 < sb10> kyren: exactly
04:39 < sb10> lost 4 hours on that one!
04:39 < Smaxx_> had to hunt down an annoying bug yesterday - something i didn't expec to cause issues in that constellation (not my code):
04:39 < Smaxx_> printf("%d %",...)
04:39  * Whiteluigi bandages himself to stop bloodloss.
04:40 <+kyren> oh god
04:40 <+kyren> sizeof((char*)strbuf)
04:40 <+kyren> I CAN'T TYPE
04:40 < Smaxx_> well
04:40 < Whiteluigi> How does type?
04:40 <+kyren> still, you knew what I meant
04:41 <+kyren> HOW MANY ERRORS CAN I WRITE ON ONE LINE
04:41 < Smaxx_> just use the array as a function call as well :P
04:41 < Smaxx_> you could still pretend it's a union with an overloaded function pointer
04:41 <+kyren> I'm not fully awake yet
04:41 < sb10> My only excuse, I haven't program in C for 7 years I think.
04:42 < Whiteluigi> Maybe start writing code at a slower pace?
04:42 <+kyren> my excuse is that I have a bad brain
04:42 < Slayer9825> So
04:42 < Slayer9825> Any suggestions for first programming language?
04:42 < sb10> this things, the look terrible
04:42 < sb10> if ( ERROR_SUCCESS == MsiGetFeatureState(hInstall, featName, &installed, &action) )
04:42 < sb10> the ERROR_SUCCESS define name is all about Windows BTW :))
04:42 <+kyren> it's broken, and I should be allowed to draw social security from it
04:42 < Whiteluigi> Bad brain? I got bad memory.
04:42 <+kyren> wuh
04:42 <+kyren> ERROR_SUCCESS
04:43 < Slayer9825> Im interested in making useful programs for myself and others
04:43 < Slayer9825> Any suggestions?
04:43 <+kyren> python
04:43 < Slayer9825> you sure?
04:43 <+kyren> yes?
04:43 <+kyren> javascript
04:43 < Seiga> what if all of a sudden kyren wasn't sure any more
04:43 < sb10> kyren: defined in WinError.h !
04:43 < Slayer9825> javascript?
04:43 < Slayer9825> Know a bit
04:43 < Slayer9825> I do
04:43 < Seiga> and had a big crisis about whether or not python was the correct choice
04:43 <+kyren> javascript is surprisingly useful nowadays
04:43 <+kyren> or not surprisingly
04:43 < Slayer9825> I know html css and partly javascript
04:43 <+kyren> don't have a crisis
04:43 <+kyren> jsut learn a language
04:44 < Slayer9825> But how?
04:44 < Slayer9825> I can get it
04:44 < Slayer9825> Javascript is website wise
04:44 < Slayer9825> How do you make a program out of JS ?
04:44 <+kyren> javascript and javascript like languages are used all over the place now
04:44 < Slayer9825> Can you please give examples?
04:44 <+kyren> like unity
04:45 <+kyren> UnityScript is javascript
04:45 < Slayer9825> I mean, for a offline executeable program?
04:45 <+kyren> I believe that's what it produces? I dunno I'm not a unity expert
04:45 < Whiteluigi> Aptana Studio can be used for programming JavaScript.
04:45 < Slayer9825> i want it as a .exe extension
04:46 <+kyren> that doesn't matter
04:46 <+kyren> dont' worry about htat
04:46 < Slayer9825> what do i do then?
04:46 < Whiteluigi> I don't think JS can be in EXE format, I could be wrong though.
04:46 <+kyren> try python or unity + javascript
04:46 <+kyren> I'm sure you can package a unity game as an exe somehow
04:46 < Slayer9825> Hmm
04:46 <+kyren> just worry about writing code first
04:46 < Slayer9825> But isnt unity a game maker?
04:46 < C-C-C-C-Crash> Hey guys, Bartwe is streaming.
04:46 <+kyren> I mean yeah, is that bad?
04:47 <+kyren> I don't know what you want to do
04:47 <+kyren> pick something you'd like to do, then pick your environment based on that
04:47 < Slayer9825> Well, i only wanted to make like a program
04:47 <+kyren> and make it something small
04:47 < Slayer9825> Something simple to start with
04:47 <+kyren> then you can't go wrong with python
04:47 < Slayer9825> Nothing like a game... yet
04:47 < Slayer9825> The thing is
04:47 < Slayer9825> I need a good answer for this one
04:47 < Slayer9825> "What is truly a game?"
04:48 < Slayer9825> When i know that i can make it
04:48 < Whiteluigi> Is that even possible to answer?
04:48 < Slayer9825> Im not sure
04:48 <+kyren> just go dl the python interpreter, follow some python tutorials
04:48 <+kyren> until your eyes bulge out of their sockets
04:48 < Slayer9825> I would start of saying its something entertaining
04:48 < Slayer9825> Hmmm
04:48 < Slayer9825> Sounds awesome !
04:48 <+kyren> it ain't that complex :D
04:48 <+kyren> I mean it is
04:48 <+kyren> but starting is not
04:49 < Slayer9825> So python then, but compiling?
04:49 <+kyren> you just run them
04:49 <+kyren> they're script-like
04:49 < Slayer9825> Sounds decent
04:49 <+kyren> python tutorials should explain it
04:49 < Whiteluigi> So Python can be run like Bat?
04:49 < Slayer9825> Seems so
04:49 <+kyren> ..kind of?
04:49 < sb10> Whiteluigi: not exactly..
04:49 < Slayer9825> So, stil
04:49 < Slayer9825> kyren?
04:49 <+kyren> they're interpreted, but
04:50 <+kyren> it doesn't matter whether they're interpreted or compiled to .exe or whatever
04:50 < Slayer9825> Do you know the answer for "What is truly a gane? "
04:50 <+kyren> no
04:50 <+kyren> it depends on your definition of game
04:50 <+kyren> which is the question itself
04:50 <+kyren> it's not a very useful question
04:50 < Slayer9825> Yes
04:50 < C-C-C-C-Crash> You could just say "42" and pretend to be witty.
04:50 < Slayer9825> Entertaining
04:50 < Slayer9825> A goal
04:50 < Slayer9825> And a story
04:50 < Slayer9825> Or sometimes no story
04:51 <+kyren> or sometimes not entertaining, or sometimes no goal
04:51 <+kyren> it doesn't matter :D
04:51 < Slayer9825> But in that way
04:51 < Slayer9825> I could even make a game in Jquery
04:51 <+kyren> I'm going to go back to work now :D
04:51 < Seiga> I use cave story as a zero point to look at and say this, this is a game
04:51 < Slayer9825> Which is Javascript, a javascript library
04:51 < Slayer9825> Good luck
04:51 < matheus23> oh god... I'm too late
04:51 <+kyren> too late for what?
04:51 < Darkwater> Questions woo!
04:51 < Ype> hi all
04:52 <+kyren> why are you guys all pouring in here
04:52 <+kyren> did tiy do something
04:52 < DrPiD> :D
04:52 < Darkwater> Guess who tweeted something
04:52 <+kyren> fuuuuuu
04:52 < Seiga> kyren: Tiy linked it on the twitter
04:52 < GoaLitiuM> tiy's tweet
04:52 <+kyren> oh god dammit
04:52 < vigrid> kyren: https://twitter.com/Tiyuri/status/241110200113844224 that
04:52 < Seiga> said you were answering questions
04:52 < Darkwater> Hah
04:52 < Seiga> I'm guessing that wasn't the plan after all?
04:52 < DrPiD> so, Q&A with kyren time..
04:52 <+bartwe> haha
04:52  * DrPiD gets comfy
04:52 < Gyro_> You should probably hide now
04:52 < Whiteluigi> Poor Kyren.
04:52 < frozenfire218> run away! :D
04:52 < Seiga> hey bartwe is that hamsteak coming from your stream
04:53 <+bartwe> Seiga: hamsteak........
04:53 < Aralicia> lets help kyren a bit : bartwe is streaming right now =)
04:53 < Seiga> homestuck sorry I thought that was obvious
04:53 < ekuurh> hi there
04:53 <+kyren> okay I guess I'm answering questions then :/
04:54 < Darkwater> So kyren, will there we a mechanics system like wires in Terraria?
04:54 < Darkwater> If yes, how advanced?
04:54 < Gyro_> Oh golly, poor kyren
04:54 < Ivan_> Hai
04:54 < ekuurh> will you please explain the wrapping stuff? :)
04:54 < Midgard> What's up?
04:54 <+kyren> yes, more advanced, not *exactly* like terraria
04:54 < sb10> Darkwater: that's not a programmer question! :)
04:54 <+kyren> less block based
04:54 <+kyren> think more LBP
04:54 < Whiteluigi> Oh dear Elrin, so many people.
04:54 < Midgard> :/
04:54 < Darkwater> sb10: Mechanics have to be programmed
04:54 < Darkwater> kyren: Yay
04:54 < frozenfire218> ooh i like lbp
04:54 < Guest13853> http://vastvoid.weebly.com
04:54 < Midgard> You are developing Starbound with the same engine that Terraria used?
04:54 <+kyren> the world wrapping system is very very simple when you play
04:54 <+kyren> and ungodly complicated to program
04:54 < DevilBro> http://i.imgur.com/H9MsK.jpg
04:55 < DevilBro> loool
04:55 <+kyren> no not in the slightest, it shares nothing with terraria at all other than being the same genre
04:55 < Xhanat> Hi kyren :)
04:55 < Midgard> You are developing Starbound with the same engine that Terraria used?
04:55 < frozenfire218> btw what language is starbound written in?
04:55 < frozenfire218> no
04:55 < C-C-C-C-Crash> LIQUID TONNES OF PEOPL!
04:55 < Slayer9825> TeRRARIA FTW
04:55 < frozenfire218> different
04:55 < Darkwater> Weren't you also gonna release the engine after Starbound's release?
04:55 < Slayer9825> !!!!!!!!!!!!
04:55 < Seiga> Tiyuri: You need to be more responsible with your tweeting. Why back in my day.
04:55 < ekuurh> :)
04:55 < Apple_Master> Terraria was in XNA, Starbound is in C++
04:55  * Whiteluigi hides under an upside down bathtub.
04:55 < Apple_Master> There, answered a question for you.
04:55 < frozenfire218> ok thanks :D
04:56 < Slayer9825> Holy fuuuuuu
04:56 <+kyren> you guys can just anser for me haha
04:56 < Slayer9825> C++
04:56 < Aralicia> Kyren > Does that bother you to be compared so much with Terraria ?
04:56 < meow_> post every damn second
04:56 < Slayer9825> Its basically
04:56 <+kyren> if it were up to me I would love to release the engine after release, but it's not up to me
04:56 < ekuurh> how will the terraforming system work?
04:56 < Slayer9825> A Major buttfuck
04:56 <+kyren> not really, it's the same genre, and the genre is not very big
04:56 < Slayer9825> Kyren?
04:56 < Darkwater> ekuurh: Huge ufo to destroy mountains
04:56 < Ype> tiy is trolling us.
04:56 < vigrid> kyren: why C++ this time, not .NET?
04:56 < Slayer9825> Do you know when the game would have an estimated release?
04:56 <+kyren> no he's trolling ME
04:56 <+kyren> end of the year, ish
04:56 < Darkwater> vigrid: I think because C++ is much faster than XNA
04:56 < Skippy_> think it's because C++ has the performance needed
04:56 < frozenfire218> lol telling people it's questinoe time :P
04:56 < Slayer9825> Hmmm
04:56 <+kyren> "when it's done and we hope it's done at the end of the year"
04:56 < Slayer9825> Sounds great
04:56 < vigrid> Darkwater: not a question for you
04:57 < Slayer9825> I really wish i had access to a beta
04:57 < Slayer9825> I would even pre-order
04:57 < Mianso> Does that matter slayer?
04:57 < Skippy_> you should learn to have patience ;)
04:57 <+kyren> we don't feel comfortable accepting money without giving people something
04:57 < Slayer9825> I really want to see the game
04:57 < Darkwater> kyren: Give them a cookie
04:57 <+kyren> so I don't think pre-order would happen
04:57 < Slayer9825> I understand
04:57 < ekuurh> kyren, do you ever join any game-coding contests like ludum dare?
04:57 < Mianso> Because you're awsome,kyren
04:57 < Slayer9825> a pre-order
04:57 < Slayer9825> And a beta
04:57 < Guest13446> Is the water physic the same as in terraria?
04:57 < Slayer9825> Would be a great combination
04:57 <+kyren> we did icfp a while back
04:58 < Seiga> The water physics have a demo video, Guest13446
04:58 < Xhanat> You know what would be awesome? the possibility yo upload a sprite with the character face
04:58 <+kyren> and placed.. not that great due to last minute bug
04:58 <+kyren> no the water physics are nothing at all like terraria
04:58 <+kyren> not that much is
04:58 < sb10> Guest13446: nope, you can see from a demo video
04:58 < Slayer9825> But, from peoples point of view, it seems terraria inspired
04:58 <+kyren> other than the fact that they're 2d block based genre
04:58 < ekuurh> the water physics are AWESOME
04:58 < Slayer9825> I can understand that
04:58 < Seiga> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF9gYfRTuyo Terraria water physics demo, not final version I believe
04:58 <+kyren> it's fine, it's the same genre of game
04:58 < Skippy_> Slayer: would you rather potentially ruin your first experiences of starbound with game breaking bugs, or wait for a stable release and enjoy it to the fullest?
04:58 < DevilBro> http://img.pr0gramm.com/2012/08/7ca68.jpg
04:58 < Seiga> terraria?
04:58 <+kyren> the genre has lots of room
04:58 < Seiga> starbound*
04:58 < DevilBro> i want this :D
04:58 < Seiga> I AM VERY SORRY
04:58 < vigrid> kyren: what were the specific reasons for switching to C++ from XNA, performance? wider platform support?
04:58 < ekuurh> does the pressure condensed water apply on the wall have any effect on the wall?
04:58 <+kyren> not even game breaking bugs, it's not *finished* yet
04:59 < sb10> vigrid: all of these
04:59 <+kyren> we didn't switch from xna, we didn't start in xna
04:59 < vigrid> sb10: are you kyren? ;)
04:59 < Skippy_> Kyren: i don't mean this week, or even month. I mean whenever a beta would be feasible
04:59 <+kyren> he's right though
04:59 <+kyren> sb10 can answer for me
04:59 < sb10> vigrid: nope, but I can answer that :)
04:59 <+kyren> his answers are right
04:59 < Darkwater> vigrid: Other people can also answer some questions
04:59 < Wangotango> what's the hardest thing to code been so far?
04:59 < ekuurh> will there be an exp system?
04:59 < Apple_Master> All of it.
04:59 < Apple_Master> No
04:59 < vigrid> well, I can answer this myself, too, but I'm interested in reading what Kyren has to say
04:59 <@Tiyuri> the wereturtles
04:59 < Darkwater> Most programmers know the difference between C#/XNA and C++
05:00 <@Tiyuri> those were hard to program
05:00 < Aralicia[afk]> ekuurh > No
05:00 < ekuurh> tiy!
05:00 < vigrid> that's kind of the point of doing this, right?
05:00 < ryuu> Hello. Do you especially choose to not use .net to have the opportunity to port the game to other platforms ?
05:00 < Aralicia[afk]> ekuurh > xp has been indicated has not beeing in the game.
05:00 <+kyren> you can port the game to lots of platforms even on .net
05:00 <+kyren> when we started it was just me
05:00 < ekuurh> so how will the progress in the game work?
05:00 < meow_> wereturtles :<
05:00 < ekuurh> how will you progress?
05:00 < vigrid> kyren: the monogame port of terraria wasn't very stable I heard?
05:00 <+kyren> and I had a large set of working code in C++, and even though it's far from perfect it's sort of common in the video game industry so I chose that
05:01 < Wangotango> any idea when a combat demo video may be released?
05:01 < vigrid> at least initially. it's not a smooth ride to switch from xna to monogame
05:01 <@Tiyuri> just to clarify, kyren has no connection to terraria
05:01 < sb10> vigrid: good point, I will not answer your questions then :)
05:01 <+kyren> I have no connection to terraria yes thank you :D
05:01 < Darkwater> kyren: How long do you think it will take to get bored in Starbound's world?
05:01 <+kyren> other than being a fan
05:01 < vigrid> good to know, thanks Tiyuri
05:01 < ekuurh> lol dark
05:01 < ekuurh> nice question :)
05:01 <+kyren> I dunno hopefully a long time
05:01 < ekuurh> they can't reallllyl answer that, depends on you
05:01 < ekuurh> really*
05:01 <+kyren> there are multiple worlds though
05:02 < Skippy_> How do animations work with the random creatures?
05:02 <+kyren> they have common sets of animation
05:02 < abcmonk> what are the main 'goals' of starbound and how does the overall mechanics differ to say games like terraria?
05:02 < mgbt> beep
05:02 < Skippy_> ok
05:02 < Slayer9825> I hope i enjoy the game at release
05:02 <+kyren> some creatures might have animations that others don't
05:02 < Slayer9825> And really
05:02 < Skippy_> cool
05:02 < mgbt> hi everyone
05:02 <+kyren> but they're all in a larger set of supported animations
05:02 < Slayer9825> I just need this clear
05:02 < Skippy_> ok
05:02 < Skippy_> thanks
05:02 < Wangotango> what's the building like? is it just gathering resources then a blueprint and a building popping out of nowhere or is it block by block building like terraria?
05:02 <+kyren> I hope you do to Slayer9825
05:02 < Slayer9825> Are this team and the terraria team not alike at all?
05:02 < wec> WHERE IS TIY!?!?!!
05:02 <+kyren> they both have tiy in them
05:02 < mgbt> in twitter
05:02 < Apple_Master> The only guy in common is Tiy.
05:02 < Slayer9825> Hmmm
05:02 < Slayer9825> Role?
05:02 < mgbt> -_-
05:03 < wec> AEWFASFaw
05:03 < Slayer9825> Because really, the fame of Starbound has much to do with Terraria
05:03 < vigrid> kyren: how large is the codebase for Starbound currently? LOC?
05:03 < Slayer9825> To be honest
05:03 < Mianso> Wex that's a wery well though phrase
05:03 < AndyDX> How are you? :D
05:03 < Mianso> *wec
05:03 < ekuurh> oh god, tiy&kyren&bart&fetall&leglris are all in the same chat room. isn't it supposed to explode?
05:03 <+kyren> 49k non-whitespace LOC
05:03 <+kyren> ish
05:03 < ekuurh> fetal* legris*
05:03 <+kyren> and growing rapidly
05:03 <@Tiyuri> I can't stop coughing, it's annoying
05:04 < sb10> kyren: wow that's a 3k+ from last stream time..
05:04 < psychotwo> Tiyuri, ouch D:
05:04 < hazzary453> are you saying all the devs are here???
05:04 < abcmonk> what are the main 'goals' of starbound and how does the overall mechanics differ to say games like terraria?
05:04 < Mianso> Try to hold breath
05:04 < AndyDX> Hi Tiy
05:04 < Seiga> HAY GUYS be back later. gonna go try and sort out my future career.
05:04 < Wangotango> is it just weapons and monsters and such which are randomly (or is that procedurally?) generated, or is armour done so too?
05:04 < ekuurh> will there be an option of coding addons to starbound?
05:04 < sb10> Seiga: :)
05:04 <@Tiyuri> The main goal, if I had to pick one. Is to provide that buzz of finding new content almost indefinitely
05:04 < vigrid> kyren: thanks, 49k is not a lot, so it must be well structured. speaking of which - what libraries do you use?
05:04 <+kyren> there will be a modding api at some point
05:04 < Skippy_> not at release?
05:04 < hazzary453> i want this game so bad!
05:05 <+kyren> there might even be a cool like.. out of process API
05:05 <+kyren> over a socket
05:05 < WoflSkin2K> when comes the game?
05:05 < hazzary453> i love your work guys!!!!!
05:05 < ekuurh> awesome
05:05 <@Tiyuri> Thanks hazzary453
05:05 <+kyren> the modding api will come probably soon after release
05:05 < Skippy_> ok
05:05 < Ype> around december.
05:05 < AndyDX> Yeah the game is awesome!!
05:05 <+kyren> and it will grow a lot
05:05 <@Tiyuri> vigrid, kyren wouldnt tell you, but her code is incredibly well structured
05:05 <+bartwe> things are happening in that area, but no promises
05:05 < Ype> that said the coder of starbound
05:05 <+kyren> expect it to go through several stages
05:05 < AndyDX> I cant wait to play it
05:05 < WoflSkin2K> thx  Ype
05:05 < hazzary453> yay i spoke to the famous tiy!!!!
05:05 < AndyDX> lol
05:05 < Aralicia> kyren > isn't it 5am where you live ? Aren't you a bit sleepy ?
05:06 <+bartwe> yeah kyrens code it the best
05:06 < sb10> Tiyuri: so there will be not some kind ultimate bad guy to kill? just bosses?
05:06 < ekuurh> tiy, someone left a "3.141" in the code instead of "constants::pi". blasphemy!
05:06 < ekuurh> find the witch
05:06 < Skippy_> programmers tend to stay up late for.. reasons :p
05:06 < Mianso> LoLwhat
05:06 <+kyren> it is 5am here
05:06 < Skippy_> atleast i do ;D
05:06 < ekuurh> was the witch founld?
05:06 <@Tiyuri> sb10 secrets ;)
05:06 <+kyren> I'm not sleepy because I woke up at 1am
05:06 < Wangotango> how many updates are to be expected after release? or will you just keep going for as long as possible?
05:06 <+kyren> I keep being on GMT
05:06 <@Tiyuri> Wangotango
05:06 < vigrid> I have a question to the team. IIRC, Terraria is finished - are you planning on releasing the source code for it at some point, like id Software does with their games? That would be sweet
05:06 < sb10> Tiyuri: I take that as "yes, there will be" :)
05:06 < WoflSkin2K> cost?
05:06 < hazzary453> will the crafting be simmiler to terraria?
05:07 <@Tiyuri> The core team will update the game for as long as they can, when they finally move onto a new project I am going to put a team together to continue updating the game
05:07 < AndyDX> Will there be a building system
05:07 <@Tiyuri> also, during the period in which the main dev team is updating, I want the secondary update team to be producing small updates each friday
05:07 < ekuurh> will there be community activites (pvp and stuff)?
05:07  * psychotwo implodes
05:07 < Wangotango> will the team consist of members already making the game, or will you recruit new members?
05:07 <@Tiyuri> a bit of both
05:07  * ekuurh explodes internally
05:07 < Zantron> I'm sure this was the first thing asked: Release date?
05:07  * psychotwo becomes a cube.
05:07 < plaYer2k> There is no release date known yet. Its an indie game and thus its done when its done. Estimated release is however "End of the Year".
05:08 < bob___> How long will the game actually be updated for?
05:08 <@Tiyuri> I'll make sure there is always *A* team, of talented people, updating the game
05:08 <+kyren> SB is a different game than terraria, from a different company, they share no code or resources, they're just in the same genre, because there's a lot of room for the genre to grow and we think that there's a lot of interesting stuff left to do
05:08 < WoflSkin2K> hy zombey
05:08 < ekuurh> wait, no one answered, will there be pvp or events and stuff?
05:08 < wec> HOW MUCH WILL THIS GAME COST
05:08 < Benguin> ?_?
05:08 < rejser> wec: FIFTYTWELVE
05:08 < plaYer2k> http://community.playstarbound.com/index.php?threads/list-of-announced-game-information.450/
05:08 < vigrid> Tiyiri: [repeating question] IIRC, Terraria is finished - are you planning on releasing the source code for it at some point, like id Software does with their games? That would be sweet
05:08 < bob___> Wed: Look at the about page ffs
05:08 < plaYer2k> that tells alotabout pvp andco
05:08 < fivethousandpeop> Sorry if this has already been asked, but are we any closer to getting a release date?
05:08 < Onza40> Hi guys, just wanted to say I loved Terraria, it is probably my favourite LAN game of all time, will SB support LAN in the same way? (ie local worlds and players which can be taken into LAN)
05:08 <+kyren> we don't own the source code to terraria
05:08 <@Tiyuri> vigrid, that's entirely up to Redigit, it's his source code
05:08 < hazzary453> are you still thinking of giving beta to those who pre-order?
05:08 <+kyren> it's up to redigit
05:09 < Wangotango> what genre would you say starbound is closest to? or is it so many genres your head might explode trying to think of what one it covers the most
05:09 < Mianso> Hey tiy about the races.Can avians wear other races gear?
05:09 < vigrid> Tiyuri: pass him info I'd hump his leg for it :)
05:09 < AndyDX> When the game is going to be realesed?
05:09 <@Tiyuri> Mianso, yes
05:09 < Yveul> Quite sensitive question - how old are you, and for how long are you into coding ?
05:09 <+kyren> 30, forever
05:09 < Mianso> So i can play as apex and war avian armor?
05:09 <+kyren> I'm oooold
05:09 < Sharks12> will we see Nyan cats? :P
05:09 < Mianso> *wear
05:09 < wec> 30?
05:09 < vigrid> 30? old. 0x20 is old.
05:09 <+kyren> we're keeping the references to a minimum
05:09 < Gyro_> din dins for me, I shall return!
05:09 < Yanthir> Hwo are you doing all of ya? :)
05:09 < AndyDX> Yeah you are like Santa
05:10 < AndyDX> :D
05:10 < Aralicia> I think I'll leave... I've seen the same question 3 times in 2 minutes. bye bye !
05:10 < fivethousandpeop> When approximately will it be released?
05:10 < hazzary453> kyren, I still think mspa is strange
05:10 < oholiab> kyren: are there likely to be any in-game programmable computers? I really like the idea of being able to automate things :)
05:10 < wec> HOW MUCH IS THIS GAME 30$?!?!?!
05:10 < bob___> WEC Look at the bloody About page
05:10 <+kyren> hahaha right I'm 0x1e
05:10 < wec> OK
05:10 < Yanthir> 10$-15$, end of the year.
05:10 < wec> YAY
05:10 <+kyren> mspa is strange and wonderful and I will hear nothing bad about it
05:11 < Yanthir> Ask AFTER you read Tiy's AMA
05:11 < hazzary453> its not bad, just strange
05:11 < sb10> kyren: what is mspa?
05:11 < Apple_Master> Most of these questions could be answed if you people read the FAQ/various other things on the forums.
05:11 <+kyren> mspaintadventures
05:11 < hazzary453> ms paint adventures
05:11 < vigrid> kyren: have you livestreamed your coding or would you consider doing so?
05:11 < Darkwater> Blue made a list of known game information
05:11 <+kyren> I have, I did the other day
05:11 <+kyren> I will again
05:11 < boomshakalaka> how much larger do you expect the worlds to be compared to terraria since you are working with native code now?
05:11 < wec> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
05:11 < Wangotango> i know that before terraria's release there was controversy on 4chan regarding how many threads were made on it on it's /v/ board, with claims that it was an attempt at viral marketing. how will you react if the same controversy rises with starbound?
05:11 <+kyren> probably when I'm doing something slightly more interesting
05:11 < Darkwater> Check that out, it's under General Discussion on the forums
05:11 < vigrid> kyren: ace. where can I see it?
05:11 < wec> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
05:11 < hazzary453> I need starbound!!!
05:11 <@Tiyuri> Wangotango: we'll just do our thing
05:12 < Apple_Master> Wangotango;  Surely that was ebcause of the leak and stuff.
05:12 <+kyren> it's not on now, but twitch.tv/kkyren
05:12 < vigrid> kyren: thx, subscribed
05:12 < hazzary453> ui have to
05:12 < Yveul> I'm pretty curious about the old stuff you made earlier, do you have some examples ?
05:12 <@Tiyuri> not going to go spamming anyone
05:12 < Yanthir> watched ya last time you livestreamed
05:12 <+kyren> hahahaha, we don't spam people or do any viral marketing
05:12 < wec> make an evil boss called curious george
05:12 <+kyren> really
05:13 <+kyren> we're not that clever
05:13 < vigrid> viral marketing just does itself, eh?
05:13 < Wangotango> i wasn't claiming you do, hope you didn't take offence
05:13 <+kyren> I dunno?
05:13 <+kyren> I mean, we try not to be jerks :D
05:13 < hazzary453> i still like those 2 seconds of play bartwef showed us!!!
05:13 <@Tiyuri> I hope so
05:13 <@Tiyuri> I had to kill his hamster for that
05:13 < AndyDX> Will you need a good computer to handle the game?
05:13 < Yanthir> D:
05:13 < henks> 8(
05:13 < Mianso> haha
05:13 < henks> hamster-killer!
05:13 < Danny> What's the word my good people!?
05:13 < vigrid> kyren: what platforms are you planning to release for, initially?
05:13 <+kyren> hopefully no, you won't need a great computer
05:13 < Jink_> Maybe Alpha versin as in Endless Space?
05:14 < Wangotango> what shader model does starbound use?
05:14 < GIS> great to hear, kyren
05:14 <+kyren> we're trying for like.. sub 2.0ghz single core integrated video, but we might not get that low
05:14 < GIS> I was a bit worried
05:14 < GIS> hehehe.
05:14 < Toboe12PL> hello
05:14 < maffleet> hello peoples
05:14 <+kyren> it will DEFINITELY be no higher than a 2.0ghz dual core with modern intel or really old non-intel gpu
05:14 < wec> STARBOND FTW
05:14 < hazzary453> noooo, i would buy him a new Hamster, if i new where he lived!!!!, and if it wasn't a lie!!!!
05:14 < hazzary453> i agree
05:14 <+kyren> but we're not done makin it fast yet
05:14 < Yanthir> noooo, not the dual core
05:14 < Zantron> Can I be a monster in the game?
05:14 < bob___> So 2.0Ghz dual core with integrated graphics should be fine to play Starbound?
05:14 < Apple_Master> Welp, gonna need a new PC
05:15 < Yanthir> I don't own that much
05:15 <+bartwe> oh kyren, such ambitious perf goals
05:15 < Zantron> I know it's a big question but why not
05:15 <+kyren> yeah, we hope
05:15 <+kyren> I can hope
05:15 <+kyren> I mean, okay right now, it runs 60fps at 1920x1080 on like..
05:15 < hazzary453> how old is the hardware you run it on as my computer is a f&h rubish thingy
05:15 <+kyren> 2.4ghz dual core with an old discrete gpu
05:15 <+kyren> it's not gpu bound really
05:15 <+kyren> it's non-insane opengl driver bound
05:15 < GIS> *is happy because his computer is above the specs*
05:15 <+kyren> all perf complaints should be directed to bartwe
05:16 < Smaxx_> just keep in mind such things might change :P
05:16 < vigrid> kyren: what do you spend your cpu cycles on in the game mainly?
05:16 < Smaxx_> and you might be missing out on some effects
05:16 < Danny> May I ask a question? Will Apex have different building styles than humans? Similar to how Avians have different building styles?
05:16 <+kyren> well, after the lighting engine which uses like.. depending on the resolution, like 10-25%
05:16 <+kyren> of one core
05:16 < hazzary453> mine might be above the specs, im not sure
05:16 < Wangotango> where did the idea of starbound first come from?
05:16 <+kyren> mainly.. drawing tiles and waiting on opengl
05:16 < Smaxx_> vigrid: "if(player.shootsat == "kyren") player.kill();
05:16 < Smaxx_> that's running in an endless loop
05:16 < Smaxx_> :P
05:16 < Whiteluigi> Lol.
05:17 < hazzary453> this will be my perfect game, block sand box with a plot and story!!!!!
05:17 < Danny> May I ask a question? Will Apex have different building styles than humans? Similar to how Avians have different building styles?
05:17 <+kyren> yes they will
05:17 <+kyren> and do
05:17 < vigrid> kyren: great :) so there seems to be plenty of time to spend on AI and background sim like circuitry and user generated mechanisms
05:17 < wec> pl;,k,p[
05:17 < wec> k;
05:17 < hazzary453> so different races have different attributes, i heard there would be only atheistic
05:17 < wec> ;
05:17 < wec> l';
05:17 < Wangotango> will the other races be mostly animal based like they have been so far? or will there be weird, alien type races playable as well (is this nda?)
05:17 < Smaxx_> circuitry is pretty easy if done right ;)
05:18 < AndyDX> How many monsters there will be?
05:18 <+kyren> oh, platforms
05:18 < Vexatron2000> hi :D
05:18 < Guest21898> When the game will be released?
05:18 < hazzary453> will planets loop like you said?
05:18 <+kyren> vigrid: you asked about platforms
05:18 < bob___> How many lines of code are there in the random world generation?
05:18 <+kyren> all the platforms
05:18 < Danny> guys guys one at a time
05:18 < vigrid> Smaxx_: unless the world changes all the time I guess :)
05:18 <+kyren> libraries we use.. not many
05:18 < vigrid> kyren: great, I'm going to wait for Ouya version then ;)
05:18 <+kyren> all the pc platforms
05:18 < AndyDX> How many monsters there will be?
05:18 <+kyren> I could get it running under freebsd in a day
05:18 <+kyren> probably
05:19 <+kyren> libraries we use are like
05:19 < GIS> will there be planetoids and visitable space stations to variate from the planets?
05:19 < GoaLitiuM> MS-DOS?
05:19 < hazzary453> are monsters health shown in a bar above there head????
05:19 < vigrid> GLaDOS
05:19 < wec> yes
05:19 < GIS> xD
05:19 < wec> i saw it in big pic
05:19 < MsPtibiscuit> Error: Too many questions
05:19 < GIS> lol
05:19 < wec> in right side
05:19 < wec> on robot!!!!
05:19 < hazzary453> yeah me to
05:19 <+kyren> freetype, vorbisfile, libpng
05:19 < wec> look at it
05:19 <+kyren> couple of things like that
05:19 <+kyren> then SDL and opengl and that's it
05:19 < vigrid> kyren: so pretty basic stuff. it's all custom built then, not even libnoise? :)
05:19 <+kyren> we even use our own mixer because we have a tragic almost fatal case of NIH
05:20 <+kyren> which is both good and bad
05:20 < Wangotango> is there anybody contributing to the game outside of who is on the team page? will they be given credit in the game?
05:20 <+kyren> no, not even libnoise
05:20 < Zantron> How can I become a super cool alpha tester?
05:20 < hazzary453> will starbound be 100% awesome or 20000000+%awesome???
05:20 < sb10> kyren: less libraries, less worries. always like that.
05:20 < wec> yer i wanna be alpha tester too
05:20 < wec> how?
05:20 <+kyren> I mean.. perlin generators are not really that hard
05:20 < Smaxx_> probably by not nagging and waiting :)
05:20 < Benguin> kyren: could we get the game running on even lower specs, if we did things like disabling the fancy lighting (say if we had a really simple lighting system to fall back on?)
05:20 <+kyren> well, the lighting is not yet but will be out of thread
05:20 < hazzary453> (wec: yer i wanna be alpha tester too) don't we all
05:20 < plaYer2k> AndyDX, afait there are about 100,000+ monster combinations right now, or at least have been in the past and now are more? :> ... but that is according to the devs easy to push further through their "script-like" system to add new elements
05:21 < Zantron> That's not an answer smaxx =p
05:21 < wec> YEP
05:21 < drcra> Hey
05:21 < plaYer2k> afaik*
05:21 <+kyren> so hopefully it will be 60fps and then degrade to much less than 60fps updates while keeping the rendering at 60fps
05:21 < Smaxx_> shouldn't lighting be on the gpu only anyway?
05:21 < wec> afaik :D
05:21 < AndyDX> wow
05:21 < Wangotango> how smooth is the online? will lag spikes be common?
05:21 < vigrid> kyren: do you use any test automation or is everything manual?
05:21 < AndyDX> thats a large number
05:21 <+kyren> no we don't really have a lot of test automation, we have tests but it's not really proper test driven development
05:22 < Smaxx_> yigrid: last thing I've heard is Tiy ordering large quantities of steel cages and old computers
05:22 < hazzary453> YAY, finally I get to talk to devs and and have me questions answers, and i LOVE it!!!!!
05:22 < Yveul> Do you have some old stuff you created we could look into ? I'm pretty curious :p
05:22 <@Tiyuri> dont forget the orphans
05:22 < henks> Smaxx_: those were hamster cages
05:22 <+kyren> I kind of wish we had more tests, but I'm not sure test driven development really works all THAT great in an environment like this
05:22 < wec> ill there be a limited edition starbound pack or somthin
05:22 < vigrid> kyren: what do you think about test automation in game developmen in general? is it even remotely useful?
05:22 < AndyDX> Do you have to find weapons or craft them from differnt parts?
05:22 < hazzary453> orphans????
05:22 < plaYer2k> Wangotango i think some bigger stability tests will prove the network capabilities, but the water demo ran really fluently and they were based around the world there
05:22 < Smaxx_> kyren: it works in awesome ways if you've got definite inputs and outputs :)
05:22 <+kyren> it could be useful I think, but it's so hard to test in-game mechanics like that
05:22 < Smaxx_> i really love the new testing tools in visual studio 2012
05:23 <+kyren> I dunno, I might just not be smart enough to make it useful
05:23 < oholiab> kyren: so any chance of in-game computers? Been playing Minecraft with Computercraft and the embedded lua driven computers in that make automating and centrally controlling things by writing your own code hella fun
05:23 < Smaxx_> it really depends on what you want to test
05:23 < hazzary453> GO CHUCKLEFISH!!!!!!
05:23 <+kyren> man I want in-game computers
05:23 < plaYer2k> xD
05:23 < drcra> Tra-ta-ta-ta-ta!
05:23 < plaYer2k> then code them in! yay
05:23 <+kyren> if it were up to me I would waste a month making sure that the circuitry system could emulate a Z80
05:23 < Dolu> industrial craft is very cool to
05:23 < AndyDX> Do you have to find weapons or craft them from diferent parts?
05:23 <+kyren> and include a Z80 built-in chip
05:23 < GIS> Yo dawg, so I heard you like games so I put a game in your game so you can play a game while you play a game
05:24 <+kyren> but I haven't gotten to go crazy with that yet
05:24 < hazzary453> will there be wiring????
05:24 <+bartwe> oh yes
05:24 <+kyren> there will be wiring
05:24 <+bartwe> YES
05:24 <+bartwe> a Z80
05:24 < GIS> seeing all the technology...
05:24 <+bartwe> you are my favority genius programmer kyren
05:24 < bob___> What kind of things can you build with wireing?
05:24 < vigrid> kyren: thanks for answering my questions, great to see a dev who isn't a robot :)
05:24 < hazzary453> YAY!!!!!
05:24 <+kyren> you are MY favorite genius programmer bartwe
05:24 <+bartwe> awwww
05:24 <+bartwe> group hug
05:24 <+kyren> group hug
05:24 < vigrid^afk> group hug ;)
05:24 < MsPtibiscuit> What kind of music do you listen to while coding, guys ? :3
05:24 < Whiteluigi> So many questions *faints*.
05:24 < oholiab> kyren: haha, awesome :D Embedding lua is fairly simple from what I gather and if there's already wiring I guess it would just be making an API for the in-game computer to activate said wiring
05:24 < GIS> awkard.
05:25 < Zantron> >_>
05:25 < hazzary453> yeah i think kind devs like you are awsome!!!
05:25 < AndyDX> :|
05:25 <+kyren> oh good point
05:25 <+kyren> when we make a wiring api we definitely need mod hooks into it
05:25 < GIS> You will be able to visit more than planets in starbound, right?
05:25 <+kyren> er, we need to make a wiring api for mods
05:25 <+kyren> just pretend that sentence made sense
05:25 < Toiletpaper> afds
05:25 < Zantron> Giant sized Natalie Portman should be a destination
05:26 < hazzary453> how will we find we planets?
05:26 < GIS> lol
05:26 < sb10> kyren: will IDDQD and IDKFA work in Starbound? :)
05:26 < oholiab> kyren: that would be pretty awesome - I had an idea with computercraft because it has an HTTP API, so I was thinking of writing an in-game script to watch a sinatra app on my host PC so I can control all of the computer nodes centrally from a point-and-click interface
05:26 < lkijl> What is the game being programmed in?
05:26 < Toiletpaper> kyren: will there be like a genetic modifier similar to spore ?
05:26 < oholiab> that sort of stuff would be amazeballs
05:26 < Apple_Master> lkijl;  C++
05:26 < plaYer2k> well adding some kind of "processing power" into the game sure is a "must" .... may it be a "simple" thing like basic wireing and logics ... OR even better, emulated processors <3<3<3
05:26 < Danny> Yeah, will we get a list of planets we've already visited or haven't visited alongside with our home planet?
05:26 <+kyren> I listen to random dubstep / chillstep music that omni hands me, and chiptunes, and the mspa albums over and over again for more times than is healthy
05:26 < Smaxx_> ohaliab: would probably be a can of worms security related
05:26 < plaYer2k> so you got a task after launch i would say ... add the processor emulator! xD
05:27 < Memeej> Will you guys make more games like this?
05:27 <+kyren> I hope so Memeej
05:27 < psychotwo|bsod> chiptunes *drool* them days
05:27 < Toiletpaper> genetic modifier?!?!
05:27 <+kyren> if this works out, it's not like we plan on stopping
05:27 < Yveul> What is actually randomly generated ?
05:27 < Wangotango> have kyren/bartwef/tiy ever heard of the protomen? i'd advise anybody to check them out
05:27 < lkijl> would people be able to give each other on-board computer viruses?
05:27 < oholiab> Smaxx_: not really, the only thing you can do is turn signals on or off, and if you're doing it on a public network it's you're own stupid fault
05:27 < Zantron> Some sort of MMO-like version of these games would be amazing
05:27 < Darkwater> ^
05:28 < Zantron> With TONS of planets like Eve-online, but everyone in one universe
05:28 < ryuu> Thank You guys !
05:28 < hazzary453> me brother is insulting and annoying me about this but who cares this is awesome!!!!
05:28 < plaYer2k> there are "near infinite" planets ... what you want more? xD
05:28 < Hallucinogenus> aloha guys
05:28 < sb10> starbound is not yet out, still we already want MOAR
05:28 < Toiletpaper> aww reeely want genetic modifier
05:28 < hazzary453> i want infinite planets
05:28 < bob___> How will destroying planets work?
05:28 < Ype> trow a nuke in it lol
05:28 < sdadasdas> kaboom?
05:28 < Rampage> kyren: how far through development are you at this point?
05:28 < Toiletpaper> like spore? tat kinda sucked
05:28 < Wangotango> (reposting) have kyren/bartwef/tiy ever heard of the protomen? i'd advise anybody to check them out
05:28 < hazzary453> i want infinite planets
05:28 < plaYer2k> just have a really powerful server set up and it might handle hundreds of players when the netcode is really that good
05:29 < Starbi> spore sucked only at the last stage :D
05:29 < Wuzhles> Spore sucked because it became kiddiefied
05:29 < hazzary453> visit ALL the planets!!!!!
05:29 < Wuzhles> Have you seen the "Beta footage"?
05:29 < Toiletpaper> yar...
05:29 < plaYer2k> hazzary453 there ARE near infinite ... you womt be able to explore them all anyway
05:29 <+kyren> I hope it won't be bandwidth limited
05:29 <+kyren> but it might be
05:29 < Hallucinogenus> jop, the last part of spore was boring as hell
05:29 <+kyren> block based games take up lots of bandwidth in worst cases
05:29 < hazzary453> sad face
05:29 < Wuzhles> It had like, blood and underwater stage at first
05:29 < hazzary453> how many is that 1000000
05:30 < Wuzhles> but EA wanted the family audience
05:30 < Memeej> Kyren, how in the hell did you code the randomization?
05:30 < Wuzhles> arrays?
05:30 <+bartwe> bartwe: we'll keep working on starbound after release for a good while, so it is likely some issues that exist at release will be fixed later
05:30 <+kyren> carefully
05:30 < plaYer2k> hazzary453, one million ... xD
05:30 < Wuzhles> How did you make the 24x24 pixel display?
05:30 <+bartwe> blockbased games can be cheap on the network
05:30 < Danny> If you guys were going to make another game after starbound (Which I'm assuming you are) what type would it be? Shooter? top down RPG?
05:30 < Wangotango> (reposting again) have kyren/bartwef/tiy ever heard of the protomen? i'd advise anybody to check them out
05:30 < vigrid> int random() { return 4; // determined by a dice throw }
05:31 < Memeej> 8-bit remake of Starbound :P
05:31 <+kyren> ^^^
05:31 < bob___> Which programming language did you learn first?
05:31 <+kyren> I don't even remembmer..
05:31 <+kyren> Ti calcluator basic I think
05:31 < bob___> How many do you know
05:31 < Memeej> Lol
05:31 < plaYer2k> xD
05:31 <+kyren> uh..
05:31 < iruyit> How does the mob generation work?
05:31 <+kyren> depends on how you count
05:31 <+bartwe> kyren knows them all
05:31 < Wangotango> kyren, have you worked on any games before starbound?
05:31 <+kyren> not any good professional games unfortunately
05:32 <+kyren> just my own crap
05:32 < Memeej> Define 'crap"
05:32 < henks> hamster simulator?
05:32 < Memeej> xD
05:32 < vigrid> kyren: I'm just looking at the livestream you recorded. vim... impressive minimalism - are there any C++ IDEs for Mac that you could recommend?
05:32 <+kyren> xcode?
05:32 < vigrid> recommend, not know ;)
05:32 <+kyren> I mean, you're not exactly spoiled for choice
05:32 < Starbi> Bartwe, have you got your hamster back? :D
05:32 <+kyren> I dunno I'm not an IDE person
05:32 <+bartwe> Starbi: the hamster was a lie
05:32 < vigrid> fair enough
05:32 < Hallucinogenus> crap =learning-process
05:32 < Starbi> T_T
05:33 <+kyren> I know, ranging from meh to really really well
05:33 <+kyren> C lua python javascript java C++ objective-c scheme perl shell uh..
05:33 <+kyren> thinking
05:33 <+kyren> ruby-ish
05:33 <+kyren> oh php a bit
05:33 <+kyren> um
05:33 < vigrid> self taught programmer I see
05:33 <+kyren> I'm missing some
05:33 < Memeej> C#?
05:34 < bob___> html?
05:34 < vigrid> basic ;)
05:34 < Wangotango> is there anybody contributing to the game outside of the those shown on the team page? will they get credit and mentions for their work inside of the game?
05:34 < Whiteluigi> So many programming languages.
05:34 < rarr4> errr guys
05:34 <+kyren> a tiny bit of C#
05:34 <+kyren> html if you count that
05:34 <+kyren> no, there's some I'm missing
05:34 < Memeej> hm
05:34 < rarr4> does anybody know a thing about the release date already?
05:34 <+kyren> fuu
05:34 <+kyren> uh
05:34 < Whiteluigi> Estimated release: End of the year.
05:34 < Memeej> xD
05:34 < bob___> Q4 2012
05:34 < plaYer2k> There is no release date known yet. Its an indie game and thus its done when its done. Estimated release is however "End of the Year".
05:34 < vigrid> rarr4: 31st November
05:34 < rarr4> aha
05:34 < plaYer2k> lol no vigrid
05:35 < plaYer2k> there is no exact release date known ...
05:35 < Whiteluigi> There exist no date, only estimated.
05:35 < rarr4> thats pretty late
05:35 <+kyren> some variants of basic
05:35 < plaYer2k> please dont drop false dates
05:35 < vigrid> plaYer2k: there is no 31st November, too ;)
05:35 < Memeej> Not really, since it's basically september now.
05:35 < plaYer2k> that too
05:35 < plaYer2k> but people believe those false dates :<
05:35 < rarr4> well, too bad
05:35 < Wangotango> (reposting) is there anybody contributing to the game outside of the those shown on the team page? will they get credit and mentions for their work inside of the game?
05:35 < Hallucinogenus> end of the year, bartwe need the money :P
05:35 <+kyren> I want to know haskell better
05:35 < rarr4>  cya guys!
05:35 < Wuzhles> Did Hurricane Isaac ever hit Florida?
05:35 <+kyren> oh, crap coldfusion
05:35 <+kyren> that pos
05:36 < Horyzone> is there any chance of a beta soon and do you have some idea of how it will be ruled ? :)
05:36 <+kyren> I wish coldfusion and php were stricken from my head
05:36 < hazzary453> there are maggots on my kitchen floor!!!!
05:36 <+kyren> oh, man scala
05:36 < Memeej> How can you know so many coding languages ._.
05:36 <+bartwe> Scheme
05:36 <+kyren> a bit of D
05:36 <+bartwe> and C
05:36 <+kyren> I dunno some of them I don't know that well / have forgotten
05:36 <+bartwe> the grandparents
05:36 < plaYer2k> There is currently no information about either there will be a beta or not. It is however very likely that IF there will be a beta, it will be closed and only available for active and helpful members of the community.
05:36 < bob___> wow thats a lot you know
05:36 <+kyren> I knew perl crazy well but forgot most of it
05:36 < Wangotango> (reposting) is there anybody contributing to the game outside of the those shown on the team page? will they get credit and mentions for their work inside of the game?
05:37 < vigrid> if you know programming (in general) another programming language is just another simple thing to learn, given it shares a paradigm with what you're familiar with ;)
05:37 < Whiteluigi> plaYer really gets to use those commands of his.
05:37 <+kyren> I think everyone contributing is on the team page atm?
05:37 < hazzary453> is it rue tiys real name is Finn Bryce
05:37 < hazzary453> true
05:37 <+kyren> no it did not hit florida at all
05:37 <+kyren> Brice
05:37 < plaYer2k> hehe well WL those are all old and common questions ... sure xD
05:37 <+kyren> I believe
05:37 <+kyren> Isaac => florida was like
05:37 <+kyren> breezy, bit of rain
05:37 < bob___> Can you recommend any good books for learning C++ or C#?
05:37 < Rampage> kyren: what made you guys use wanderlust rebirth as a means of support instead of just opening up the game to pre orders?
05:38 <+kyren> we don't like to take money and give people nothing in return
05:38 < Rampage> fair enough thats as good a reason as any
05:38 < hazzary453> you wouldnt we would get starbound later
05:38 < Rampage> ^
05:38 < Dolu> http://wiki.industrial-craft.net energy system is incredible, In starbound, how work the energy bar ?
05:38 < Rampage> im sure tehre are ppl otu there willnig to pre order even for notihng for a few months
05:38 < Wicstar> Morning everyone
05:38 < Hallucinogenus> moin
05:39 < sb10> Wicstar: it's evening actually!
05:39 < hazzary453> like me rampage
05:39 < psychotwo> Afternoon everyone, almost
05:39 < psychotwo> heh
05:39 < Wicstar> I am just waking on the conversation but I have a whole bunch of people on my server ready to pre-order
05:39 < Wicstar> the game is so anticipated :)
05:39 < Rampage> of course that would open you up to the people that would get pissy about its release getting delayed etc
05:39 < psychotwo> (still morning here, 6:39am EDT)
05:39 < Wuzhles> Wait, isn't it really late where kyren is?
05:39 < hazzary453> no realy erly
05:39 <+kyren> it's really early
05:39 <+kyren> I woke up early
05:39 < Wuzhles> Oooh
05:40 <+kyren> I'm on GMT time atm I think
05:40 <+kyren> I stay in one spot, but my sleeping schedule is a *world traveler*
05:40 < plaYer2k> and you call it early @GMT (UTC) ? xD
05:40 < plaYer2k> thats 10:40
05:40 <+kyren> no, I'm in CDT
05:40 < sb10> It's 5 PM for me :)
05:40 <+kyren> my sleeping schedule is GMT
05:40 < hazzary453> cdt?
05:40 < psychotwo> Beh
05:40 < vigrid> thanks for answering the questions. good luck with the game. bye! :)
05:40 <+kyren> aww thank you vigrid
05:40 < psychotwo> kyren: 0540 :)
05:40 < plaYer2k> UTC-X ?
05:40 <+kyren> :)
05:41 < Wuzhles> Wait, so you sleep during days and code during nights?
05:41 <+kyren> UTC-6
05:41 <+kyren> I think?
05:41 < plaYer2k> ah okay thnx
05:41 < Whiteluigi> Oh dear, Kyren's sleep schedule matches Great Britain time.
05:41 < psychotwo> yeah
05:41 < hazzary453> I to wish you all the best
05:41 <+kyren> it's 5:41 am
05:41 < Wicstar> What language are you coding the game ?
05:41 < psychotwo> it's -6
05:41 < plaYer2k> so 4:40? :-D
05:41 < plaYer2k> ah
05:41 < plaYer2k> utc-5
05:41 < Memeej> Wicstar: c++
05:41 <+kyren> C++ :)
05:41 < Wicstar> Hehe thanks :)
05:41 < psychotwo> aargh
05:41  * psychotwo falls over
05:41 < Horyzone> what are we able to know about the fighting system actualy or is a news about that comming soon ? (sorry for my awfull english, i'm the one that represent the starbound-fr community site ^^')
05:41 < psychotwo> I am read as GMT -0500
05:42 < psychotwo> 0642 here
05:42 < hazzary453> your english isnt to bad
05:42 < bob___> How complex will the wiring be in starbound, whats the most complex you have been able to build?
05:42 <+kyren> I am the vampyren
05:42 < Wangotango> will there be a combat demo video anytime soon?
05:42 < Darkbuilderx> Eastern Standard Time psycho?
05:42 < Wicstar> Yeah I am on the same schedule as you Psycho
05:42 < Wuzhles> Are we seriously discussing time zones?
05:42 <+kyren> I hope we put out a combat / gameplay video pretty soon actually
05:42 <+kyren> I don't know when, though
05:42 < Horyzone> ok thanks :)
05:43 < Wicstar> I am pretty impress with the monsters generation ! Its pretty cool
05:43 < Whiteluigi> Discuss all the timezones.
05:43 < Vizendel> Christ this is fast paced.
05:43 < Wicstar> impressed*
05:43 < Wuzhles> What are you most proud/satsified with of your coding, kyren?
05:43 < Whiteluigi> Vizendel? Terraria Online?
05:43 < hazzary453> will the wiring be like terraria were the switch provides power or like real life were it lets it through?
05:43 < Nigth> Hi
05:43 < Vizendel> Yes.
05:44 < Whiteluigi> I never thought I actually would see users from TO in here.
05:44 <+kyren> kind of
05:44 < Vizendel> Meh.
05:44 <+kyren> it won't be terraria's wiring system
05:44 < Wicstar> Was the idea for the monster randomness came from Borderland rifle randomness
05:44 <+kyren> but it does provide power
05:44 < Vizendel> I wish Terraria didn't die off so suddenly.
05:44 <+bartwe> terrarias system was too simple
05:44 < Vizendel> I wonder how my old clan is doing.
05:44 < hazzary453> im hazzary453 in TO starbound forums and twitter
05:44 <+bartwe> no crossing wires limits so much
05:44 <+kyren> what bartwe said
05:44 < GIS> that's great to hear.
05:45 < Vizendel> I'm Vizendel everywhere, if it's from a Brony forum to a Gaming forum, it's likely me.
05:45 < Whiteluigi> I use Whiteluigi as username all over the place.
05:45 < hazzary453> awesome
05:45 < Memeej> Same here with Memeej.
05:45 < Vizendel> I remember you, White.
05:45 < hazzary453> and with me
05:45 < Vizendel> How have you been?
05:45 < Rampage> kyren: were any other games used as inspiration for the design of starbound? it seems to take a few small elements from terraria as well
05:45 < Whiteluigi> I've been good.
05:45 < Wicstar> Same here Vizendel, my username was pretty much free everywhere
05:46 < Whiteluigi> How are doing Vizendel?
05:46 < Vizendel> I'm fine, thank you White.
05:46 < Wangotango> what's the building system like in the game? is it block by block, or do you have to gather x amount of resources and a blueprint to make, say, a museum pop out of nowhere?
05:46 < hazzary453> will the updates like terraria be free?
05:46 < Vizendel> Hazzary, no developer will make you pay for updates.
05:46 < hazzary453> yay!
05:46 < Vizendel> If they do, they are likely to make many, many enemies.
05:47 < Anon3324> kyren, will be the procudure generator work actually in game, or just to pre-generate mobs\planets\etc during development? If yes so - could we get mobs in our game, that won't be in another player game?
05:47 < Wuzhles> It's just dumb, same goes for DLC
05:47 < hazzary453> yay!
05:47 <+kyren> I mean, it's the same genre of game as terraria, it's a 2-d block based game
05:47 < Vizendel> Day One DLC I hate.
05:47 < Vizendel> It's easier to put in the game.
05:47 <+kyren> there's plenty of room in the genre :)
05:47 < Vizendel> After that, sure. Go ahead.
05:47 < Nazghul> block by block, cool :)
05:47 < Wuzhles> Day 1 DLC means it's already on the disc, you just have to enable it.
05:47 < Vizendel> Kyren.
05:47 < Vizendel> It's significantly smoother.
05:47 <+kyren> but building will be block by block mostly
05:47 <+kyren> or 2x2 blocks
05:48 < Wuzhles> ooooh, 2x2? Nice!
05:48 < Vizendel> At least what I've seen.
05:48 <+kyren> no, we won't have game one dlc oh god
05:48 < Nazghul> and crafting will be similar like in terraria?
05:48 < Vizendel> Kyren, yours is an Indie game, DLC doesn't really suit Indie.
05:48 <+kyren> no, I think we've all decided that at the very minimum engine updates and things like that will be free forever
05:48 < plaYer2k> Anon3324 it works ingame, most NPCs are not prebuild ... but some unique NPCs, bosses and such are
05:48 < Vizendel> Just like you'd never, ever find DLC for Minecraft.
05:48 < Wicstar> Kyren: Do you guys use an array to generate the land ? (C++) I want to 2d aventure game but I am wondering where to concentrate my effort for the map generation. I love the concept of randomness
05:48 < hazzary453> will the things like the home world weather station be something you craft then place?
05:49 <+kyren> if we did have dlc, which we don't have any plans for really for a very long time
05:49 < Wuzhles> the whole DLC thing wasn't a suggestion, just me stating my opinion
05:49 < GIS> dlc would be a bit stupid since everyone that can mod well can easily recreate the content... into some extend.
05:49 < Rampage> kyren: will it be possible to secure a home planet from enemy players?
05:50 <+kyren> an array to generate the land?
05:50 <+kyren> yeah, kind of
05:50 <+kyren> it's multi-level array
05:50 < hazzary453> i cant wait to nuke a planet!!!!!!
05:50 <+kyren> so we can unload / load specific sectors
05:50 < plaYer2k> GIS "everyone can code his own game aswell" so whydo you pay for games at all? :-P
05:50 < Wicstar> Cool :) Thanks !
05:50 < Toiletpaper> kyren will this game rely on hamachi
05:50 <+kyren> because it's kind of hard to hold a 64k x 12k planet or something huge in memory at one time
05:50 < GIS> just because you can, doesn't mean you want to.
05:50 <+kyren> no not at all
05:50 < hazzary453> yes!
05:50 < Rampage> will it use steamworks?
05:51 < Rampage> or its own networking?
05:51 < GIS> but that's a bit of a stupid statement as you can make games, and pay for other games.
05:51 < Wicstar> please do it so that the host can access his option haha not like TO
05:51 < plaYer2k> same for modding all the stuff youself ... because you want quality and NOT to work for it, thats why some would pay for it
05:51 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> steamworks please yes
05:51 < Wicstar> I hated having to logout (and kill the server) just to change my sound settings
05:51 < hazzary453> i would wait i lifetime for this game if i had to!
05:51 <+kyren> it uses its own networking, but I think that integrating with steamworks is a good idea at some point, it'd be nice if you could click on a friend in steam and play with them
05:51 < Horyzone> how the server system will work ? steam, private server or public server ?
05:51 < Rampage> yes that would be great
05:52 < GIS> but in this case, plaYer, people can mod to recreate the dlc, and give it to everyone.
05:52 < Vizendel> Kyren, if you would be so kind as to bring this to whomever put in Director mode: "Vizendel sends you his thanks at the Director mode, it will aid him with roleplaying on Starbound."
05:52 < hazzary453> this is so awesome!
05:52 <+kyren> it will be based on private servers, but we want to do a lot of things that should make it easier than minecraft / terraria
05:52 <+kyren> like
05:52 < Horyzone> oups ^^'
05:52 < hazzary453> thankyou!
05:52 < Horyzone> ok thanks
05:52 < oholiab> GIS: if it was that easy level designers wouldn't exist
05:53 <+kyren> at the very least have some convenience thing, like have upnp automatic port mapping, or reverse client / server connections
05:53 < GIS> I'm not saying it will be done in a day. People have time.
05:53 <+kyren> and hopefully something better like udp hole punching
05:53 < GIS> And i didn't say everything would be recreated.
05:53 < Rampage> yes that would be good minecrafts server system is horrendous and lets face it terraria's wasnt exactly great either
05:53 < SniperNLN> kyren, how much players will be the cap for multiplayer?
05:53 < plaYer2k> btw how are the plans for unique identifications?
05:53 < oholiab> GIS: why wait for an incomplete version when you can pay for the full thing now?
05:53 < hazzary453> this will be great!
05:54 < GIS> ..?
05:54 < plaYer2k> which was the major drawback in terrarias online games ...
05:54 <+kyren> I don't see a reason why you couldn't have at least 16 players on a server, it's mostly a question of bandwidth
05:54 < The_Decryptor> I hope there’s NAT-PMP support along with uPnP :p
05:54 < GIS> I have no idea what you mean, oholiab.
05:54 <+kyren> yeah also nat-pmp
05:54 < AppoX> wow everyone keeps asking kyren questions that were allready answered somewhere....
05:54 <+kyren> just, auto port forwarding
05:54 < hazzary453> is tiy still here?
05:54 < The_Decryptor> Excellent
05:54 < oholiab> GIS: never mind, not important :)
05:54 < Vizendel> Mmh, I'm getting off, farewell you lot. If you need anything PM me on the forums. Vizendel.
05:54 <+kyren> even that is like 2000% better than terraria / minecraft for non-technically-inclined users
05:54 <+kyren> I watch people struggle with minecraft / terraria multiplayer all the time
05:55 <+kyren> also, every game is a multiplayer game, so
05:55 <+kyren> what I want is a "invite player to my game" feature, hopefully integrated with steam
05:55 <+kyren> single player is local multiplayer
05:55 < oholiab> kyren: that sounds awesome
05:55 < Rampage> great
05:55 <+kyren> it's been like that from the beginning
05:55 < meow|TF2> auto port forwarding!
05:55 < ThunderSmasher> How much bandwidth needed for 3 people in total?
05:55 < meow|TF2> *throws money*
05:55 < hazzary453> i spend like 80% of my free time on my laptop if i can!
05:55 < plaYer2k> hm i ran a 20player terraria game without issues and lags ... so i hope there is no artificial limitation in starbound aswell :-D
05:55 < AppoX> So you can't play offline without internet? :/
05:55 <+kyren> depends a lot on what you're doing
05:55 < oholiab> meow|TF2: I know right
05:55 < plaYer2k> i just want to test a 50+ server then xD
05:55 < Rampage> thats a great idea nothing i ahte more then a singlepalyer game that my friends cant join
05:55 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> Starbound is in alpha? prealpha?
05:55 <+kyren> it can spike when doing crazy stuff
05:56 <+kyren> I'd say alpha?  I dunno it depends on how you define alpha
05:56 <+kyren> it's so not feature complete, but really I mean
05:56 < ThunderSmasher> like?
05:56 < Darkwater> indev
05:56 <+kyren> it won't be feature complete at release haha
05:56 <+kyren> we're gonna add features for a long time
05:56 <+kyren> so, I dunno the normal names hardly apply
05:56 < loadme> alpha:  map is being generated, you can move along freely and interact with some enviremnent things
05:56 < Wangotango> how varied will the ai be?
05:56 <+kyren> I mean, it'll be feature complete but then we'll add more features?
05:56 < Horyzone> 16 players... "staria" is a server that already have a lot of members (like 21 or somethings...). With a powerfull server will we be able to all play together at the same time ?
05:56 <+kyren> I dunno what to call it anymore
05:57 < GIS> guess it's late alpha now
05:57 < oholiab> kyren: call it pre-release ;)
05:57 < The_Decryptor> Indefinite beta, just like Google does
05:57 < Nazghul> kyren and when do you think the game will be released?
05:57 <+kyren> oh god, it's so much farther than that
05:57 < hazzary453> will you really be able to examine, EVERYTHING?
05:57 <+kyren> but it's not ready
05:57 < Liquidmetal> hello
05:57 < Dassery> Delta?
05:57 < plaYer2k> hy
05:57 <+kyren> I mean, ideally I'd want like 32 players
05:58 <+kyren> at a time
05:58 <+kyren> if I don't improve the netcode one bit
05:58 <+kyren> then..
05:58 < Gyro_> Sounds kinda unplaceable as a 'stage'
05:58 < Horyzone> perfect :D thanks ^^
05:58 < Nigth> :o
05:58 < ThunderSmasher> What crazy stuff can you do to spike a server badly?
05:58 < LetalShade> :D
05:58 < loadme> but will it make sense to have "only" 32 players if they cant even meet without sharing their locations?=
05:58 < hazzary453> you devs are soo good to us
05:58 < The_Decryptor> ThunderSmasher: Blowing up hundreds of blocks at a time
05:58 <+kyren> and you had like.. a 4mbit connection
05:58 <+kyren> weeell
05:58 <+kyren> 5mbit
05:58 < ThunderSmasher> Crazy.
05:58 <+kyren> upload
05:58 < plaYer2k> <- 80mbit for testing =D
05:59 <+kyren> then you would be fine for 32 players?
05:59 < Nigth> xD
05:59 <+kyren> if you had an 80mbit connection then you could support, if I'm doing my math right, a lot
05:59 < ThunderSmasher> I've got 100kb of upload, what can I handle?
05:59 < ThunderSmasher> Nothing?
05:59 < terrorcell> if there is going to be a beta, any estimation as to when it will be available?
05:59 < AppoX> what kind of PC specs do you expect will be needed to host a server for let's say 5 people?
05:59 <+kyren> a few friends, hopefully more if I further improve the netcode
05:59 <+kyren> 4-5 people
05:59 <+kyren> I dunno, I'm not done yet
06:00 < ThunderSmasher> Man!
06:00 <+kyren> I have not yet begun to compress
06:00 < ThunderSmasher> 4-5 people for 100kb
06:00 <+kyren> I'm sorry!
06:00 < loadme> will there be a way to switch between servers? like you are hosting a 32slot server and share with your friendlist some coordinates, although they arent on your server
06:00 <+kyren> or wait, 100kb
06:00 <+kyren> not KB
06:00 <+kyren> eeeh...
06:00 <+kyren> 1-2
06:00 <+kyren> don't kill me
06:00 <@Tiyuri> I think he means kb/s
06:00 <@Tiyuri> kyren
06:00 <+kyren> yeah haha, whoops
06:00 < Nigth> ^^
06:00 <@Tiyuri> 100kb is really slow
06:00 <@Tiyuri> haha
06:00 < ThunderSmasher> kb as in KiloBytes
06:00 < Liquidmetal> Hi all, will there be Kabushima? if you dont know what they are look them up on google images.
06:00 < ThunderSmasher> I know.
06:00 <+kyren> oh KB
06:00 <+kyren> okay
06:00 <+kyren> 100KB is better!
06:00 <+kyren> then I stand by what I said
06:00 < plaYer2k> even kb/s is kilibit and
06:00 <@Tiyuri> I have 100KB upload
06:00 <+kyren> 800kb/s
06:00 < plaYer2k> kb != kB
06:01 <@Tiyuri> and I've had 6-7 people on just fine
06:01 < SniperNLN> kyren, so if its almost no limits, except bandwidth.. Can we expect may be even a huge amount of slots, if specific server is used, for example 100+ of players (of course with a compareable world)?
06:01 < ThunderSmasher> Wow.
06:01 < ThunderSmasher> That is some good multiplayer.
06:01 <+kyren> it helps if they're not in the same world
06:01 < Wurmy> Hello everyone.
06:01 < hazzary453> im on bt infinity so i hope that will be ok speeds
06:01 < The_Decryptor> What kinds of plans are there for mod support? Will we be able to do crazy things like we can in Minecraft or Gmod? (Where we can attach custom code to an object for certain events/situations)
06:01 < ThunderSmasher> I couldn't support 2 people in Terraria with 100KB
06:01 < Wangotango> what kind of vehicles are included so far?
06:01 <+kyren> minecraft modding is not modding
06:01 <+kyren> it's..
06:01 <+kyren> tacitly approved binary hacking
06:01 < TautwiZZ> hacking?
06:01 < loadme> :D
06:01 < Rampage> heh
06:01 < Dassery> do you guys have fun while your coding?
06:02 <+kyren> oh I hate coding
06:02 < loadme> sure they have. look at the outcome
06:02 <+kyren> :P
06:02 <+kyren> no I code all the time
06:02 < Horyzone> Following some trouble within the French community, a new site has been created apart from starbound.fr: starbound-fr.net. Can you please reference it on playstarbound.com alongside starbound.fr? :)
06:02 <+kyren> for fun
06:02 < LetalShade> yeah
06:02 < Dassery> oh ok :P
06:02 <+kyren> erry day
06:02 < The_Decryptor> Yeah, I really wanted to use Gmod as my main example, since you can create entirely new entities and script them via Lua there :p
06:02 <+kyren> errday
06:02 < Rampage> hmmm really? i hate when i screw up coding but when i get shit working that i didnt think would its amazing
06:02 < drewy> will we get a beta anytime this year? im so hyped for this game ;/
06:02 < hazzary453> i liked minecraft i loved terraria words can't describe it for starbound
06:02 < ThunderSmasher> When is the Combat video coming?
06:02 < ThunderSmasher> Still polishing up?
06:02 < plaYer2k> There is currently no information about either there will be a beta or not. It is however very likely that IF there will be a beta, it will be closed and only available for active and helpful members of the community.
06:02 <+kyren> I want gmod's modding support really bad, but gmod is a very high standard
06:03 < TautwiZZ> didn't they say they're releasing it later this year?
06:03 < Vbitz> what will the modding look like from a programmers perspective?
06:03 <+kyren> we haven't decided, but bartwe has a really really neat idea
06:03 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> gmod's modding? good luck with that
06:03 < hazzary453> starbound is high standard to me
06:03 <+kyren> about modding being out of process
06:03 < Vbitz> gmod has a solid SDK which most of it''s functions bind to
06:03 <+kyren> over a local socket
06:03 <+kyren> which he has warmed me up to in a big way
06:03 < oholiab> kyren: that sounds really good
06:03 < ThunderSmasher> Man, aiming for a GMOD?
06:03 < JoshMad> Any word about the Avians being playable?
06:03 <+kyren> avians are playable
06:04 < JoshMad> Oh snap
06:04 <+kyren> I thought that was a given
06:04 <@Tiyuri> so are Apex
06:04 <+kyren> all the races we've introduced are
06:04 < Wicstar> Woohoo !
06:04 < drewy> plaYer2k thanks <3
06:04 < plaYer2k> sure
06:04 < Vbitz> so you have a separate "application" that talks to the game to mod it
06:04 < The_Decryptor> So I can play as a kitten in an exosuit?
06:04 <+kyren> yup, I think it's a good idea
06:04 < Rampage> how much support for modding will there be? jsut how much will eb moddable?
06:04 <+kyren> and it keeps modding from crashing the main game
06:04 < TautwiZZ> Can I play as a pidgeon too? So helpless...
06:04 <+kyren> and
06:04 < Gyro_> are there many more races to be introduced?
06:04 < JoshMad> Oh snaaaaaaap
06:04 < GIS> are all 6 races playable?
06:04 <+kyren> it's just a good idea
06:04 < loadme> could you already play /interact with all the features that you show on the screens? even if they are buggy? or are screens mostly staged for now?
06:04 <+kyren> well documented, language agnostic
06:04 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> theres gonna be more than 6 races, but only 6 of them will be playable, I think.
06:05 < JoshMad> I'm going to have a hell of a time trying to decide what race to play as first
06:05 < iMP_> Can we mod in new races?
06:05 < Vbitz> ah, very clever, so what sort of API?
06:05 < hazzary453> you have answerd all my questions!
06:05 < GIS> my question's still being ignored, lol.
06:05 <+kyren> well, the thing we have in mind atm
06:05 < oholiab> kyren: that would be awesome, that means you can expand the modding API with your own interstitial APIs
06:05 <+kyren> is
06:05 < Liquidmetal> Will this be available to find in the game? http://www.omanibfs.com/uploaded4/9_01315195503.jpg
06:05 < The_Decryptor> So you’d have an separate application that would manage the mod state and communicate to the main game server? cool.
06:05 < Shawn> Is there there any difference in the races other than just graphical?
06:05 < oholiab> so changing things in-game based on things like, on the internet and stuff
06:05 <+kyren> there's definitely going to be an entity-centric portion of the api where there's like a..
06:05 < plaYer2k> (@Tiy) No I don't want races to affect stats
06:05 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> I want to know that too, shawn
06:05 <+kyren> there's going to be, for lack of a better word
06:05 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> aw
06:05 <+kyren> PluginEntity, or ModEntity
06:05 < Horyzone> (repost) Following some trouble within the French community, a new site has been created apart from starbound.fr: starbound-fr.net. Can you please reference it on starbound.com alongside starbound.fr?
06:06 < ThunderSmasher> +kyren, you must be tired typing
06:06 <+kyren> base entity type
06:06 <+kyren> I never get tired of typing
06:06 <+kyren> if there's one thing I can do is talk until you can't stand it anymore
06:06 <+kyren> anyway
06:06 < Dassery> ^Pro coder
06:06 < Gyro_> he types for a job!
06:06 < Shawn> Is there there any difference in the races other than just graphical?
06:06 < hazzary453> shes a coder she types for work
06:06 < Gyro_> and for funsies
06:06 < GIS> shawn, no...
06:06 < Gyro_> She
06:06 < TautwiZZ> Shawn, no
06:06 < Gyro_> yes
06:06 < GIS> jinxed.
06:06 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> people get tired of typing? that's a new one
06:06 < loadme> will they have a passive skill? maybe? so that apex can see +1 range at night, while others get 10% less fall damage?
06:06 < Shawn> thx
06:06 < Vbitz> ah, so the "client" will talk to the game over functions taken from a dll
06:06 < meow_> chat is going crazy ;o
06:06 < Gyro_> I always forget these things
06:06 <+kyren> so, the mods will be able to spawn / despawn / control / do everything that all in-game entities can do via eh.. proxy entities
06:07 <+kyren> and then there will be a higher level universe / world portion of the api
06:07 < Vbitz> that would make porting to other languages really really easy
06:07 < Stevil> Sorry I'm late, did we get any news on a release schedule?
06:07 < The_Decryptor> So a mod could define a custom world?
06:07 < Rampage> ahhh very well so its more then just a scrip system then?
06:07 <+kyren> yeah, basically the same as any mod api, but with a nice socket api for it
06:07 <+kyren> based on json
06:07 < Vbitz> python, GO, .net would all be trivial
06:07 < TautwiZZ> could we do something like type a [Q] before a question?
06:07 < GIS> stevil, end year
06:07 < Dassery> With our pet creatures can we paint and name them?
06:07 < Stevil> Ta
06:07 < TautwiZZ> like [Q] what are your plans with getting it on Steam
06:07 < oholiab> kyren: git, json, vim... you use all the best stuff <3
06:07 <+kyren> yeah, mods would be able to load specific worlds and do other universe controller level stuff
06:07 < Wurmy> Paint is bad for animals.
06:08 < hazzary453> by going to watch bartwe code
06:08 < GIS> [Q] will there be more than planets to visits?
06:08 < GIS> visit*
06:08 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> what's more than planets?
06:08 < JoshMad> [Q] So how does modding actually work for Starbound so far, in a shellnut? I'm kind of drowning in logs here.
06:08 <+kyren> it's going to be on steam, HOPEFULLY on all 3 platforms but I don't know how that will work yet since linux steam is not released
06:08 < Dassery> Itll be fur dye then :P
06:08 < Vbitz> is there any case to consider proxying a mod though another server completly
06:08 < Liquidmetal> Question: Will this be available to find in the game? Or perhaps even as a race? http://www.omanibfs.com/uploaded4/9_01315195503.jpg
06:08 < TautwiZZ> ooh, that's a nice question
06:08 < The_Decryptor> The modding situation sounds awesome
06:08 < GIS> like, moons, planetoids, space stations stars (what)
06:08 <+kyren> we don't have a modding api yet, it's still WIP
06:08 <+kyren> bartwe has a lot of awesome ideas, though
06:08 < Rampage> sorry if this has been asked already but do you guys have any idea what your going to charge at release yet?
06:09 < JoshMad> I see. Well, at least it's actually in progress if at all.
06:09 <+kyren> $10-$15
06:09 < plaYer2k> Rampage, estimated price is around 10-15 usd
06:09 < loadme> do change planets over time? like in terraria where everything could slowly get infected?
06:09 <+kyren> cheap
06:09 < TautwiZZ> [Q] How long and how much do you guys plan to support the game post-launch? With content updates, bug fixes and patches are an obvious yes (I hope)
06:09 < Toiletpaper> yay a price TY
06:09 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> Moon? with so many awesome planets, why would you visit...moob?
06:09 < Rampage> okay thanks
06:09 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> moon*
06:09 < Liquidmetal> Kamoshika are awesome
06:09 < SniperNLN> Just want to say, that i'm really excited about in-game generation. I think it can give a lot of time for you to work on "handmade" content, while the game will be on her own "mind". Great idea. Thank you and good luck in the development. Can't wait for release. :)
06:09 < Rampage> tahts about the right price for me haha was hoping for that sorta price
06:09 < Vbitz> how and when will worlds be loaded?
06:09 < ThunderSmasher> I can also talk until the other person best sick.
06:09 < ThunderSmasher> gets*
06:09 <+kyren> thank you guys for all the well wishes
06:09 <+kyren> it means a lot
06:10 < Toiletpaper> wishy wish wish
06:10 < Toiletpaper> :P
06:10 < Wurmy> Man.. I was going to go to sleep.
06:10 < Rampage> well im done then, thanks for answering my questions, i wish you luck with starbound and hope it goes good for ya
06:10 < TautwiZZ> [Q] You guys are based in Europe?
06:10 < loadme> please stay focused guys. you have an extra ordinary project in your hands. wish you good luck and good progress.
06:10 <+kyren> we're based everywhere haha
06:10 <+kyren> thank you loadme :D
06:10 < GIS> I'm just hoping starbound doesn't come right before exames like terraria did, parents wouldn't buy it for me up until the exams were done >_>
06:10 < TautwiZZ> oh, so a multi-national team
06:10 < Horyzone> Sorry to say it again but following some trouble within the French community, a new site has been created apart from starbound.fr: starbound-fr.net. It is possible to reference it on playstarbound.com alongside starbound.fr please? :)
06:10 < psychotwo> TautwiZZ, Not everyone is based in Europe... some in north america too
06:11 < psychotwo> but yeah, international team
06:11 <+kyren> jeez.. uh
06:11 < Vbitz> your game is one of the only 2 releases I am actively looking forward to. What your doing is amazing
06:11 < Wurmy> I dont think they need luck or well wishes. Game looks amazing. Couldnt hurt though right. Luck best of good wishes.
06:11 <+kyren> 5 countries?
06:11 <+kyren> thank you so much Vbitz
06:11 < Dassery> Kyren, can we paint and name our tamed beasts
06:11 <+kyren> oh we need luck :D
06:11 < GIS> Vbitz, what's the other one? :O
06:11 < Ype> im going to make a slender mod when starbound is live >:D
06:11 < TautwiZZ> [Q] does the multi-nationality and different time-zones give you any trouble?
06:11 <+kyren> a bit!
06:11 <+kyren> sometimes
06:12 < meow_> painting an animal ?
06:12 < meow_> ;_;
06:12 < Vbitz> GIS, planetary annihilation
06:12 < Dassery> I want a pink headed poptop ;-;
06:12 < Liquidmetal> I want Kamoshikas!!!!!
06:12 < Wurmy> Organic paint, made from painted organs.
06:12 <+kyren> I dunno you can definitely find them in different colors
06:12 < Liquidmetal> please
06:12 < Dassery> Yay!
06:12 <+kyren> color shifting them sounds pretty cruel ;_;
06:12 < meow_> indeed ;^;
06:12 <+kyren> you'd probably just capture another one
06:12 < sb10> kyren: as you probably know from streaming chat, in Russia game is also highly awaited.
06:12 < GIS> I'd prefer it to not colour shift them
06:12 < meow_> taming them is enough for me
06:12 < meow_> its what makes them unique
06:12 < GIS> then it feels more like you're looking for your perfect pet.
06:13 < Liquidmetal> Will there be kamoshika animal body parts?
06:13 <+kyren> ^^
06:13 < sb10> All around the globe.
06:13 < GIS> instead of just picking the first one and plastic chirurgy all over it.
06:13 < Wurmy> I like the Idea of flying around the universe just to find a color of pet you want.
06:13 < Liquidmetal> Haha i interrupted
06:13 < forsaken1111> Wurmy: Also with the correct number of legs
06:13 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> I agree, wurmy.
06:13 < Horyzone> Is there any chance that cats will be playable ? :3
06:13 < Liquidmetal> ^^
06:13 <+kyren> you're not the only one that wants cats to be playable
06:13 < Wangotango> what's the "lore" tiy has planned going to cover?
06:13 <+kyren> haha
06:14 < Nigth> ^^
06:14 <+kyren> my wife won't leave me alone about it
06:14 < GIS> lawl.
06:14 <+kyren> she keeps coming up with, you know theoretically
06:14 < plaYer2k> i want stickman to be playable :<
06:14 < SniperNLN> Oh, remember one thing that my friend and i was discussing recently. There are a lot of (from seen of course) really fluffy cute monsters.. But will be any bad-ass, brutal and scary ones?
06:14 <+kyren> what she would name her cat
06:14 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> I want horse to be playable. without them playable, it's a deal breaker for me
06:14 < The_Decryptor> Kitten in an exosuit = best race
06:14 < psychotwo> nyah
06:14 < Dassery> Can we like rename our pets?
06:14 <+kyren> it is a good idea, I dunno pester tiy about it
06:15 < JohnRia> What is the engine/API being used ?
06:15 < plaYer2k> c++11
06:15 < Wangotango> what vehicles should we expect? any airborne ones?
06:15 <+kyren> kitten in an exosuit is a good race
06:15 <+kyren> make a tabby in a big purple exosuit
06:15 <+kyren> name: Lt. Colonel Batsyourface
06:15 < sb10> JohnRia: it's custom engine using OpenGL.
06:15 < Horyzone> cats are awesome :3
06:15 < Wurmy> Do you listen to any neato music when you code?
06:16 < Dassery> lol and the hair colour slider is the cats colour scheme
06:16 <+kyren> Major General Mouser
06:16 < Liquidmetal> I listen to djcutman while i do pixelart
06:16 < Stevil> Where abouts are you based? Do you code remotely or do you have an office?
06:16 < Liquidmetal> Or awesomecat
06:16 <+kyren> everything is done over irc
06:16 < Stevil> l33t ;)
06:16 <+bartwe> and git and mumble and skype and a few other tools
06:16 <+kyren> we exist in like 8 different timezones
06:17 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> mumble ftw
06:17 <+kyren> yeah okay and git and mumble and skype
06:17 < Wangotango> 8 different dimensions too
06:17 <+kyren> our "office" is irc
06:17 < sb10> kyren: oh, that's heavy! (c) BTTF
06:17 < Stevil> hehe
06:17 < Vbitz> One thing I really loved that happened in terraria was finding just one mid level weapons as loot just starting out, going from just walking around killing stuff to amazing bad ass, I hope there are those moments in starbound
06:17 < Stevil> desktop sharing?
06:17 < Liquidmetal> We need hobbits in gigamechs
06:17 < JohnRia> any reason for creating your own engine ? why not just use an open source or something like Unity ?
06:17 < The_Decryptor> What kind of data is used for NPC generation? Is it just stuff like world seed, or is it (hopefully) more advanced stuff like how The Sims stores a list of traits and blends them together for offspring (poor mans genetics)
06:17 < SniperNLN> kyren, what a pretty job you have, not like mine...
06:17 < Wangotango> will there be any classical fantasy races in the game, such as dwarves?
06:18 <+kyren> because there aren't a lot of good engines for doing crazy block based stuff in 2d
06:18 < TautwiZZ> [Q] kyren, what was the thing you found most fun to work on?
06:18 <+kyren> ooh, nice question
06:18 < The_Decryptor> Being able to cross-breed species and having their “genetics” play a role in the result would be awesome
06:18 <+kyren> I really liked lighting and physics and..
06:18 <+kyren> rendering
06:18 < ThunderSmasher> Kyren, what was the most complicated thing you have worked on on this game?
06:18 < Wurmy> Aligator giraffe.
06:18 <+kyren> ooh.. hmm
06:18 < Liquidmetal> Mutant hobbits in space catapults
06:18 <+kyren> networking was very complex, so is lighting
06:19 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> there's gonna be physics in the game?
06:19 < Cyral> I was making a game, Lighting and physics were the hardest lol
06:19 < ThunderSmasher> Hm, I wouldn't be able to program THAT
06:19 < ThunderSmasher> Of COURSE!
06:19 <+kyren> even though the entirety of the meat of the lighting code is in a 400 line header and a 700 line cpp file
06:19 <+kyren> it's some of the most mind-bending code in the game
06:19 < ThunderSmasher> crazy.
06:19 < ThunderSmasher> I'd like to read that.
06:19 <+kyren> I mean, "physics"
06:19 < Vbitz> The most complex code is never very long
06:19 <+kyren> it's all "physics"
06:20 < TautwiZZ> [Q] Are there any things you guys have not been allowed to say to the community?
06:20 <+kyren> personally I don't think Physics works for platformers all that well unless they're, well, a Physics platformer
06:20 < Liquidmetal> I AM AFK! :)
06:20 <+kyren> uh hahaha
06:20 < LetalShade> xD
06:20 <+kyren> like tiy will kill my hamster if I do?
06:20 < TautwiZZ> just yes or no will do :P
06:20 <@Tiyuri> ±_±
06:20 < Wangotango> will a structure completely collapse if two blocks holding it up are destroyed, or will it float, like in terraria?
06:20 <+kyren> yeah of course
06:20 <+kyren> I can't spill all the beans
06:20 <+kyren> just most of them
06:21 < SniperNLN> kyren, will be the bug of unlimited water source there? xDDD
06:21 <+kyren> nah, they float.. part of me wants to change that
06:21 < Wurmy> Force not any further, we dont want to be mourning the loss of  Kyren's hamster.
06:21 <+kyren> no water is absolutely finite
06:21 <+kyren> it's actually destructible
06:21 <+kyren> but not creatible
06:21 <+kyren> creatable
06:21 < Wangotango> are you hoping sb will have more realistic physics or would you rather let people be more creative?
06:21 <+kyren> I don't actually own a hamster, he'd probably kill my cat
06:21 < The_Decryptor> Is water going to be compressible? It’d be nice to have hydraulics.
06:21 < meow_> nuuuuuu ;_;
06:21 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> will there be more liquids?
06:22 <+kyren> water is compressible
06:22 < Horyzone> the monster :o
06:22 < Liquidmetal> I'M NOT AFK ANYMORE! :)
06:22 <+kyren> did you not see the water video?
06:22 < Vbitz> people will always find a way, minecraft is testament to that
06:22 <+kyren> it's hilariously unrealistically compressible
06:22 < TautwiZZ> yeah, check out the water video
06:22 < The_Decryptor> Yeah, that’s why I asked
06:22 < SniperNLN> kyren, that's very good, i hate water bug in terraria, but using it all the time))
06:22 < Wurmy> This isnt like.. he already killed your hamster is it.
06:22 <+kyren> but that's the most fun
06:22 < Wangotango> is there anything you don't like about the game so far that you'd like to change?
06:22 < TautwiZZ> probably the floating blocks part :P
06:22 <+kyren> oh yeah tons
06:22 < The_Decryptor> The small square of water that flooded the entire room, that doesn’t play well with hydraulics :p
06:22 < oholiab> kyren: You should totally make so that you can burn hydrogen in an oxygen atmosphere to make more water ;)
06:23 <+kyren> bugs, stuff that should work better but doesn't, parts where it's just not done yet
06:23 <+kyren> which is a lot
06:23 < ThunderSmasher> Is the sort pixelly water fixed yet? Or still bothering about that until release?
06:23 < Vbitz> will there be any oh crud I need to get as far from he as possible right now times
06:23 < Wurmy> Water could be a little screwy in terraria. I byaccidently flooded one of my houses. Thought I made a fountain.
06:23 < TautwiZZ> but you're not given enough time to do those things, right?
06:23 <+kyren> it's just a small bug, no I haven't fixed it yet, there are tons of those
06:23 <+kyren> you're seeing behind the curtain
06:23 <+kyren> the "pixelly" water is really
06:23 <+kyren> the way the lightmap looks before smoothing
06:23 < ThunderSmasher> How much longer until the entire Combat System is polished and ready?
06:23 < Dassery> What can we expect as far as melee weapons go?
06:24 <+kyren> and then i'ts 2x2 blurred
06:24 < TautwiZZ> soo... the water is a lie? ;_;
06:24 < Walross> 'Ullo
06:24 <+kyren> I hope very very soon
06:24 <+kyren> on the combat system
06:24 < Wangotango> when is the next wallpaper of the month out? there hasn't been one for a while now
06:24 < sb10> kyren: how long are you programming games? I.e. was it from the start, or you worked on something else before?
06:24 < Walross> So Kyren, any chance of a meat planet? Please?
06:24 <+kyren> I'm working on non-stupid NPC ai as we speak, in fact
06:24 <+kyren> a meat planet haha
06:24 < Wurmy> You made it rain fish didnt you Kyren?
06:24 < ThunderSmasher> Wangotango, did you see it yet on the forums?
06:24 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> meat planet? what? Is that a fetish
06:24 < Wangotango> no thunder
06:24 < Wangotango> could you link me?
06:25 < Walross> You know you want a delicious planet.
06:25 < ThunderSmasher> Check the news and announcements
06:25 < ThunderSmasher> ok
06:25 <+kyren> you've been reading this http://what-if.xkcd.com/4/
06:25 < TautwiZZ> [Q] kyren, will there be unlockable character races, or will all be available from the start?
06:25 <+kyren> I did make it rain fish
06:25 <+kyren> they're particles, so I made it rain a graphic
06:25 <+kyren> that I thought was the funniest
06:25 <+kyren> because I'm like that
06:25 <+kyren> it's like a gentile way to nudge the artists
06:25 < TautwiZZ> and that's why you make the game so much better
06:25 < The_First_Gamer> I am curious.
06:26 < Wurmy> Haha.
06:26 < matoua> will it be possible to move while attacking with a sword? thanks
06:26 < Walross> Bloody iPad makes this hard T_T
06:26 < Dassery> make it rain fire
06:26 < ThunderSmasher> NVM, wango, it's my mistake!
06:26 < The_First_Gamer> How will the sprites be stored?
06:26 <+kyren> yeah ofc matoua
06:26 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> will there be different kinds of weather? Besides rain
06:26 < DrMcDave> make it rain dosh
06:26 < Dassery> just like adele
06:26 < DrMcDave> lods of emone
06:26 <+kyren> yeah, rain snow ash
06:26 < The_First_Gamer> Like viewable .png files, or will they be shoved in some special format?
06:26 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> DOSH
06:26 < Horyzone> and cat's are just soooo happy  in a fish rain :3 so you are a good person ^^
06:26 < ThunderSmasher> I actually just got it a couple days ago. I was going to post it yesterday, but then Tiy announced the Apex, and I didn't want to like, post a wallpaper so soon after he did that. I'll probably post tomorrow, and make it an August/September wallpaper.
06:26 < ThunderSmasher> fetalstar Quote
06:26 < The_Decryptor> On a fish planet, make it rain cats
06:26 <+kyren> well, all the game assets will probably be shipped in our own weirdo btree db format
06:26 <+kyren> but it's not going to be a secret
06:27 < Walross> Also, will there be different kinds of slashes with a sword, such as stab, horizontal slash, and overhead? Or will it be terraria like spam one attack?
06:27 < The_First_Gamer> Welp.
06:27 <+kyren> day 1 I'll probably release tools to let you pack / unpack them
06:27 <+kyren> we're not going to keep it all obfuscated or anything
06:27 < The_First_Gamer> That would be greatly appreciated.
06:27 < Wangotango> what're cave/cavern systems like in sb?
06:27 < SniperNLN> kyren, speaking about combat, what it looks like mostly? "Swing your bloody hammer" or more comlicated, may be come combo and special moves?
06:27 <+kyren> but it might not be like.. a folder
06:27 < The_First_Gamer> Since that would open up the possibility for texture packs and the like.
06:27 < sb10> kyren: this packing actually makes it load faster?
06:27 <+kyren> I don't think so, it's mostly to manage patches
06:27 < sb10> I mean, why not folder with pics?
06:27 < Walross> Talking of bloody hammers, can we have a large bloodstained hammer please?
06:27 < Benguin> Huh...
06:28 < sb10> kyren: oh. got it.
06:28 < Wurmy> But but.. you guys are going to have a crazy launch celebration arnt you? Day 1 might be a write off.
06:28 < Suwako> On Imgur, saw a YuGiOh reference.
06:28 <+kyren> I mean it could be a set of folders also
06:28 < Benguin> I just went to the bathroom and for some reason I flushed BEFORE peeing...
06:28 < Wangotango> what're cave/cavern systems like in sb?
06:28 <+kyren> but it's so easy to sha1 sum a pak file
06:28 < Benguin> Why did I do that..
06:28 <+kyren> and.. I dunno I haven't decided yet
06:28 < Wicstar> Alright guys, I have to go
06:28 < ThunderSmasher> Any possibility for game to be released December 10th?
06:28 <+kyren> if it's a pak file it will be made clear what the format is
06:28 < Wicstar> Thanks Kyren for all your time
06:28 < Benguin> I also turned on the taps 0.o
06:28 < Wicstar> and answering all those questions
06:29 < sb10> Will there be autopatching like in google chrome?
06:29 <+kyren> well okay maybe not day *1*
06:29 < Wicstar> Being close to your customers is huge :)
06:29 <+kyren> I mean, steam patching at the very least
06:29 < Wurmy> :P
06:29 <+kyren> I want to be here, and answer questions
06:29 <+kyren> I'm always here :)
06:29 < ThunderSmasher> Any possibility for the game to be released December 10th?
06:29 <+kyren> we're not aloof or anything haha
06:29 < Wicstar> :D
06:29 < ThunderSmasher> Would that be realistic? Or do you think you need a bit more time?
06:29 < Benguin> you're a loofa! scrub my back >:D
06:29 <+kyren> I'm not sure yet ThunderSmasher
06:29 < Benguin>  /random allnighter thoughts
06:30 <+kyren> it depends on a lot of things
06:30 < TautwiZZ> [Q] any big feature that the commnuity has influenced you to do?
06:30 <+kyren> and were we decide "done enough for initial release" is
06:30 < Wangotango> kyren, are you expecting to be swimming in bucketloads of money after starbound's release
06:30 <+kyren> I think a couple of them, pets and vehicles at least
06:30 < Wurmy> I didnt even know this chat existed untill like 10 minutes ago. Facepalm.
06:30 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> that sentence was weird
06:30 < Walross> Well, Kyren, will there be any kind of alchemy, technological brewing, or cooking in the game, that could be done with plants, and bits of animal?
06:30 < ThunderSmasher> Just recruit 10 more people, you'll make it by Dec. 10
06:30 <+kyren> I would be happy with swimming in a reasonable wage after release :D
06:30 <+kyren> it doesn't have to be bucketloads of money
06:30 <+bartwe> wow
06:30 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> lol, thundersmasher.
06:30 < sb10> ThunderSmasher: it doesn't work that way!
06:30 <+bartwe> still answering questions
06:30 < ThunderSmasher> Yes it does.
06:30 < Wurmy> If you're going to have money fights I would suggest dimes. They hurt the least.
06:30 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> no, it doesnt
06:31 <+kyren> yeah it definitely does not work like that
06:31 < Fuzbal> wow Tiy is a troll :D
06:31 < sb10> ThunderSmasher: absolutely no.
06:31 <+kyren> silver dollars
06:31 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> I don't think you know what a troll is, Fuzbal
06:31 <+kyren> leave the largest bruises
06:31 < Wurmy> Haha
06:31 <+kyren> oh no he's a troll
06:31 <+kyren> Fuzbal is correct
06:31 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> hm
06:31 < Dassery> Whens the next video gonna be up? and what it gonna be of?
06:31 < SniperNLN> kyren, (repeat because of wall of text :) ) speaking about combat, what it looks like mostly? "Swing your bloody hammer" or more comlicated, may be come combo and special moves?
06:31 < meow_> http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120123111645/elderscrolls/images/6/6c/Frosttroll.png
06:31 <+kyren> I mean, does this count as troll?
06:32 < plaYer2k> at some degree every developer is a troll isnt he? xD
06:32 <+kyren> I think it does?
06:32 < xJudgement> counts as an ice troll
06:32 < GIS> developers have sense of humour.
06:32 < TautwiZZ> yeah, but internet trolls are the worst
06:32 < xJudgement> ice trolls are perty bad
06:32 < Fuzbal> Just like when you, Kyren made it rain fish :D
06:32 < xJudgement> idk
06:32 <+kyren> it will be slightly more complicated than that SniperNLN but tbh we're still working through it, atm it's rather simple and there are several ways we can go and we're experimenting, combat doesn't feel right yet
06:32 < GOLDGOD> Tell me release mounth please!
06:33 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> Will there be giant humanoid enemies? Double the size of the player
06:33 < xJudgement> whens the new wallpaper going up for this month, my desktops feeling stale
06:33 < Wurmy> I like the sheild. Sheilds are neato.
06:33 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> SHEILDS
06:33 < Liquidmetal> Neato is Neato
06:33 < terrorcell> developers are people too
06:33 < Walross> Kyren darling, is there charge then fire weapons? Or shall they all be point-click-fire?
06:33 < psychotwo> *shields
06:33 <+kyren> I got called darling
06:34 <+kyren> yeah, definitely charging weapons
06:34 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> Is that harassment?\
06:34 <+kyren> no?
06:34 < xJudgement> Not for 3 more lines
06:34 < The_Decryptor> So I can indeed charge my laser?
06:34 <+kyren> I don't mind
06:34 < psychotwo> >_>
06:34 < Asgard> Hello starbound chat
06:34 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> I know it isn't. But the reaction
06:34 < Wurmy> What will you do once your laser has been charged?
06:34 < Wurmy> Hello friend.
06:34 < TautwiZZ> rape every enemy in sight
06:34 < TautwiZZ> then collect loot
06:34 < The_Decryptor> I think I would fire my laser
06:34 < Walross> Also, I assume there will be launchers that lob projectiles, yes?
06:35 < ThunderSmasher> Goodbye
06:35 < Wurmy> Ah, this seems like a reasonable thing to do with a laser once it has been charged.
06:35 < Fuzbal> I loved it when you made it rain fish :P
06:35 < Liquidmetal> is tiy here
06:35 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> Remember that cut half life enemy that rapes you? I think it would be perfect for starbound
06:35 < ThunderSmasher> Boys and Girls, Toys and Curls, Elephants and MTR's, GOODBYE!
06:35 <+kyren> yeah ofc Walross
06:35 <+kyren> you guys didn't see the water balloon gun
06:35 < Wurmy> Bye bye.
06:35 <+kyren> which is how we test water
06:35 < Fuzbal> bye Wurmy
06:36 < Wurmy> Oh, not me thought someone said goodbye.
06:36 < xJudgement> So wallpapers for August?
06:36 < Fuzbal> oh :D
06:36 < DevonX> Hi
06:36 < Liquidmetal> Is tiy a hipster IRL
06:36 < Fuzbal> Hello
06:36 < Wurmy> Hai.
06:36 <+kyren> how long have I been answering questions?
06:36 < The_Decryptor> Please leave the water balloon gun in the final game
06:36 <+kyren> what time is it?
06:36 <+kyren> oh yeah haha definitely
06:36 < Fuzbal> tiy posted the tweet over an hour ago
06:36 < DevonX> Is he still answering?
06:36 <+kyren> high level item, though
06:36 < lyraris> 2:36 gmt +2
06:36 < xJudgement> Barely Devon
06:36 <+kyren> he?
06:36 < xJudgement> Depends on the person
06:36 < Apple_Master> FOr at least 2 hours
06:36 < The_Decryptor> Of course, like the bubble blaster in Just Cause 2
06:37 < TautwiZZ> any useless items you wanna have in the game? Remeber the Angel State?
06:37 < TautwiZZ> Statue*
06:37 < zak4488> hey guys ^.-
06:37 <+kyren> oh there are plenty of useless items
06:37 < Wurmy> I know its late, as im drooling everywhere from slowed motorfunctions in my face.
06:37 <+kyren> that are just there for fun
06:37 < TautwiZZ> yay!
06:37 < The_Decryptor> Excellent
06:37 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> I want a catgun that shoots cats
06:37 < Walross> Also, machete-launching shotgun. I want the land to be covered in machetes.
06:37 < zak4488> poo catz
06:37 < Wurmy> I think any gun could shoot a cat.
06:37 < Wurmy> Oh.. i see what you're saying.
06:37 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> nobody cares for cats
06:37 < Liquidmetal> WE NEED CATGUNS
06:38 < Fuzbal> ...
06:38 < DevonX> Sill there be still be mining as part in the game?
06:38 < The_Decryptor> RPC, Rocket Propelled Cat
06:38 < Walross> Waits second
06:38 < Wurmy> Catlauncher 4000. Your face doesnt have a cat good sir. Take this!
06:38 < BlackDragon> what sort of kool features are you working on now +kyren
06:38 < Walross> VIRORB LAUNCHER!!
06:38 < ryanmm> are we actually going to be able to build houses in the full game and go around creating stuff or is it only destroying me and my friend are kinda confused on why there are threads on the forums suggesting building
06:38 < SniperNLN> kyren, oh, i see (combat system), just for a note, i'd think that two hand system is already a very good point. And "combo" moves (with some sort of button smashing :) ) gives some challenges and spectacles. You know how the game going into casual nowdays.. Complexity and difficult at some point are trown off for most of the games unfortunally
06:38 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> Will enemies explode when killed like in terraria?
06:38 < Liquidmetal> Walross, that is awesome
06:38 < lyraris> Is the rain gonna be gatherable via tanks or contaires made by specific blocks?
06:39 <+kyren> they do right now, with like a million blood particles
06:39 <+kyren> because somebody let me decide
06:39 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> :DDDD
06:39 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> that makes me happy
06:39 < Liquidmetal> GoodBye!!!!!! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
06:39 < Wurmy> Haha.
06:39 < Wangotango> what vehicles can we expect in sb?
06:39 <+kyren> I'm sure it'll be a bit more tasteful at some point
06:39 < BloodyShade> kyren: you guys seem to be using alot of STL stuff, isn't that impacting the game speed, seeing most types are rather bloated?
06:39 < Fuzbal> Oh well, You seem to have enough questions, +Kyren so I will leave now. bye everyone!
06:39 < Wurmy> Bye bye.
06:39 < alextie> hekllllllllloo
06:39 < Invalidmicah> Sorry I have joined late and I'm sure this may have been asked but will it release this year?
06:39 < TautwiZZ> [Q] kyren, Blueprints?
06:39 < Wurmy> Heya.
06:39 < ryanmm> kyren are we going to  be able to build similar to terraria? or is it only destruction?
06:40 < Walross> So, can we maybe please pretty please  get a chainsaw halberd?
06:40 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> chainsaw halberd? hell yeah I want that
06:40 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> halberds in general, actually
06:40 <+kyren> yeah, you'll be able to build ryanmm
06:40 < DevonX> Lazer chainsaw :D
06:40 < ryanmm> thank god =D
06:40 < Spaaaace> ahh lazer chainsaws
06:41 < Wurmy> Rocket launcher that shoots chainsaws.
06:41 < alextie> heeellllllooooo???
06:41 < Spaaaace> phantasy star online was a great game
06:41 < Wurmy> Think that was a G4 skit.
06:41 < Wangotango> kyren, is it possible we can have planet destroying weapons, just because why the hell not?
06:41 < The_First_Gamer> I'm not entirely sure, but.
06:41 < TautwiZZ> [Q] kyren, Blueprints to craft items?
06:41 < The_First_Gamer> As to ask this.
06:41 < Whiteluigi> Greetings Alextie.
06:41 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> We're gonna be able to build block per block? Hell yeah
06:41 < SniperNLN> Wurmy +++
06:41 < alextie> what?
06:41 <+kyren> yeah definitely blueprints, they'll probably just be on your character though
06:41 <+kyren> like, you yourself just become knowledgable about how to make it
06:41 < The_First_Gamer> Kyren, will the game be too power heavy (As in, needing high PC requirements to get a decent FPS)
06:41 <+kyren> no The_First_Gamer
06:41 < The_First_Gamer> Good.
06:42 < Walross> Also, I know there is a glove thing that lets you hurl around terrain. Will there be a possible glove that can gravity everything to where you click? In order to pelt  people around?
06:42 < Wangotango> kyren, is it possible we can have planet destroying weapons, just because why the hell not?
06:42 <+kyren> we're trying very hard to get it to run on everything this side of a roll of paper towels
06:42 < alextie> https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRBG0zUxLw8k1eR1u8AIuQljnQH9SBarX8d8M70EYybKiyzUvBBjg
06:42 < zak4488> how many planets are there now?
06:42 < Walross> XD
06:42 < alextie> sorry
06:42 <+kyren> it runs on any non-foam computer atm
06:42 < TautwiZZ> [Q] and how are they implemented, which items need blueprints to craft?
06:42 < DevonX> What elements of will the game adopt from terraria?
06:42 <+kyren> we're still working on it
06:42 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> Most of them lol
06:42 < zak4488> kool
06:42 < ryanmm> kyren is it going to be really sparkley like the terraria 1.1.1 update
06:43 < The_First_Gamer> Holy.
06:43 < Wurmy> Hmm my paper towel rolls is a few years old... and lack,ing paper towel.. i need to buy paper towel.
06:43 < SniperNLN> kyren calculator will be fine?
06:43 < BlackDragon> how large can the randomly generated dungeons get?
06:43 < Wurmy> lacking*
06:43 < Invalidmicah> I have a quad core paper towel roll
06:43 < alextie> i think baby cat can't swin in starbound?
06:43 < meow_> ;_;
06:43 < Wangotango> will there be space-dinosaurs?
06:44 < alextie> ahah !
06:44 < Invalidmicah> Will there be space pickles?
06:44 <+kyren> no it won't be nearly as sparkly particlely
06:44 < TautwiZZ> [Q] are there any items that are so rare, players might need to trade inbetween each other, just to get?
06:44 < tafdsga1> when can we possibly know about other races, and i thought i saw a robot race in the apex pic
06:44 < alextie> space gum
06:44 <+kyren> particleful
06:44 < DevonX> Is adventuring going to be a big part of the game? And if is there rewards for tho who does?
06:44 < Wurmy> Intergalactic mission to equip all baby cats with water wings and other personal flotation devices.
06:44 < lyraris> Do you plan on releasing later updates for the game?
06:44 <+kyren> yes very very very much so lyraris
06:44 <+kyren> so many
06:44 <+kyren> for a very long time
06:44 < Walross> Yes.
06:44 < ryanmm> kyren will there be weapons that produce light when swung or shot?
06:44 < lyraris> Love you :)
06:44 < Walross> Yesyesyes!
06:45 <+kyren> the game when we release will not be the absolute final game
06:45 <+kyren> continuous updates, all that
06:45 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> There are gonna be bosses, right? Did you guys made one by now?
06:45  * Walross huge Kyren
06:45 < Invalidmicah> I started playing Terraria again yesterday because the wait on this is killing me!
06:45 < CCCode> kyren what kind of buffs will armor give players?
06:45 < Walross> *hugs dammit
06:45 < meow_> dont huge kyren
06:45 < meow_> D:
06:45 <+kyren> all sorts of buffs
06:45 < Cow_> moo
06:45 < alextie> kyren can you play at the game on your pc now?
06:45 < alextie> Kyren*
06:45 <+kyren> I can?
06:45 < Invalidmicah> Hw said it runs on everything this side of paper towels
06:45 <+kyren> I mean of course I can?
06:45 < tafdsga1> when can  we know about other races
06:45 < alextie> play starbound
06:46 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> Will enemies debuff you like in terraria? Slow, poison, lowering armor etc
06:46 < TautwiZZ> [Q] how are you going to combat hacking, cheating in items? in Terraria, that was a big issue
06:46 < tafdsga1> playable*
06:46 < SniperNLN> kyren, and so how you will get your money for the updates? i know that you say it will be free, but also i knwo you all want to eat too. ^_^
06:46 < lyraris> i loved the infinite water bug though
06:46 < Wurmy> Umm in that Apex picture I noticed the paintings and what not on the walls. Will they be customizable or preset. They all looked pretty different.
06:46 < ryanmm> kyren are you guys talking about a release date right now i know you guys hate this question but i have to be the party pooper to ask
06:46 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> I wouldn't mind paying for huge content updates, tbh
06:46 <+kyren> we haven't decided yet SniperNLN
06:46 < JoshMad> TautwiZZ: Not to mention it was Redigit's reason to pretty much say NOPE.AVI to Terraria modding API >_>
06:46 <+kyren> we know that we will absolutely not not never ever ever have
06:47 <+kyren> day 1 dlc
06:47 <+kyren> or nickel and dime dlc
06:47 <+kyren> because we all hate it
06:47 <+kyren> and we're not evil
06:47 < alextie> yahoo
06:47 <+kyren> think like.. pay $5 and get 6 months of stuff or something
06:47 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> like robot ent. made a fricking DLC 1 month after game got released? FAIJASFINNIPDGGD
06:47 < Ganu> fuck yes
06:47 <+kyren> something not evil
06:47 < plaYer2k> then invent "the day before release DLC" xDDDD
06:47 < TautwiZZ> [Q] Steam/In-game achievements?
06:47 < Invalidmicah> Will this have more guns than Borderlands?
06:47 <+kyren> we might not even have dlc or anything
06:47 <+kyren> we just haven't thought about it
06:47 < alextie> i don't like pay for time
06:48 <+kyren> because we release a game, THEN think about dlc haha
06:48 < Wurmy> I think Starbound is going to be the only thing to pull me away from Borderlands 2.
06:48 < JoshMad> [Q] Is Terraria's infinite water bug going to be brought over to Starbound and reincarnated into some kind of official water generating machine? Or was that already confirmed in an update I missed out on?
06:48 <+kyren> we just want you to buy the game and have fun and update and fix bugs and release new stuff for a while, then later on when we need to eat, THEN think about it
06:48 < Walross> Also, Kyren darling, may we wear coconuts on our heads?
06:48 < DevonX> Good to hear that you are not thinking like EA
06:48 < Benguin[ZzZ]> G'night!
06:48 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> DARLINGDARLINGDARLING
06:48 < Walross> Night Ben
06:49 < TautwiZZ> Repeated question: [Q] Steam/In-game Achievements?
06:49 < Wurmy> EA's business model is rock solid. And rage inducing.
06:49 < SniperNLN> kyren, really think hard about getting money, even if it as evil, as EA ^_^ You are doing very great job, and i really don'r want this project died, because of lack of money and\or motivation because of that
06:49 < Invalidmicah> If they release Starbound around Borderlands 2 then I will need to replicate myself through osmosis to play both
06:49 < lyraris> Will it be a Masterserver?Or only client-sided servers?
06:49 < xJudgement> Nothing can be as evil as EA, they ruined BAttlefield.
06:49 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> I wont have a problem if they release the game when B2 gets released because I havent prepurchased
06:49 < plaYer2k> Invalidmicah yes do this please and share videos on youtube
06:49 < JoshMad> Oh yeah, another [Q]: What about player skins?
06:50 < Wurmy> I like EA more than I like Activision now.
06:50 < Wurmy> I dont like either very much however.
06:50 < xJudgement> You didnt get premium then for Battlefield
06:50 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> fuck EA
06:50 < DevonX> Can you play as a avian? :3
06:50 < xJudgement> Of course you can play as Avian o_O I would hope
06:50 < plaYer2k> yes DevonX
06:50  * plaYer2k stabs DevilBro
06:50 < DevonX> Sweet
06:50 < plaYer2k> dont you say you are there!! =>
06:50 < Invalidmicah> I just might
06:50 < alextie> bye i go play King arthure gold's !
06:50 <+kyren> yeah ofc
06:51 < zak4488> do you think if you can say what % the game is atm till complete...... just what you think
06:51 <+kyren> all the races are playable
06:51 < alextie> a good game
06:51 <+kyren> 180%
06:51 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> I highly doubt the game will be released this year, to be honest. But who knows...
06:51 <+kyren> but the completion level is not out of 100
06:51 < xJudgement> j180% of the races, whoa my
06:51 < zak4488> sweet
06:51 <+kyren> it's out of ???%
06:51 < Wurmy> Before the end of the world?
06:51  * DevilBro stabs plaYer2k
06:51 < Walross> Urgh, I bumped a link again
06:51 < zak4488> 100
06:51 < DevonX> Will there be a wolf like race too? (would love that)
06:51 < plaYer2k> =)
06:51 < Invalidmicah> out of 600000%
06:51 < xJudgement> Can we expect this game, this year
06:51 < plaYer2k> maybe ...
06:52 < xJudgement> Sick of playing Terraria
06:52 < xJudgement> -_-
06:52 < The_First_Gamer> Personally, I think the game will come out january of next year.
06:52 < Walross> \msg Kyren sorry, can you repeat that last message? I didn't get to read it, on account of mistapping.
06:52 < plaYer2k> the devs dont know it, they are working hard on getting it done ... just wait :-P
06:52 < Wurmy> Im pretty sure thats what Tiy had said in that reddit Q&A he did.
06:52 < rejser> xJudgement: you know, there are other games... :)
06:52 < SniperNLN> kyren, any simulations about eating\sleeping\other_sims_stuff?
06:52 < meow_> ????(????)
06:52 < Wurmy> A release at the end of this eyar.
06:52 < xJudgement> Terraria, Battlefield Rejser, thats all I want.
06:52 < The_First_Gamer> I think the important thing is.
06:52 < The_First_Gamer> Are the devs even eating/drinking/sleeping?
06:52 <+kyren> I said something to the effect of yes we will have lots of silly items, if you want something super specific you'd probably have to bug an artist because if I drew it it would be *amazing*
06:53 <+kyren> oh I drink
06:53 <+kyren> I mean
06:53 < Wurmy> Meow you arnt going to flip that table are you?
06:53 <+kyren> I drink fluids
06:53 <+kyren> I mean
06:53 < xJudgement> Booze
06:53 < The_First_Gamer> Don't drink and code at the same time.
06:53 <+kyren> yeah
06:53 < Invalidmicah> I went into the future, bought the game and brought it back so now I am playing it. Muwahahaha
06:53 <+kyren> I mean no
06:53 < The_First_Gamer> You'll spill it on your keyboard.
06:53 < xJudgement> Totally yeah.
06:53 < Walross> \msg Kyren, could you repeat that last message? I bumped much screen before I could read it
06:53 < Whiteluigi> You drink food and eat fluids.
06:53 < Walross> Goddamkit
06:53 < meow_> nope I won't
06:53 <+kyren> could you also grab the code from the future too?
06:53 <+kyren> I'd be much abliged
06:53 < xJudgement> Let me just bring the game back from the future
06:54 <+kyren> Walross: I gave you the gist above :D
06:54 < The_First_Gamer> EWWWW.
06:54 < Invalidmicah> Sorry the killer TIY andorid almost got me. Too close
06:54 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> is coding starbound your fulltime job?
06:54 < xJudgement> Speaking of GTA4 on computer, now has a Back to the Future mod, where you can be marty, and drive the Delorian
06:54 <+kyren> yes iasfinsdfnklsdfg
06:54 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> cool
06:54 <+kyren> also answering questions on irc
06:54 <+kyren> that's my other fulltime job haha :D
06:54 < zak4488> i love sdf32r423r23r43wr23 too ^.-
06:54 < xJudgement> 12 hours a day?
06:54 < DevonX> Mircrosoft joked about that they were wasted when they made windows ce me and nt
06:54 <+kyren> yeah that's a good estimate
06:54 < Wurmy> lol
06:55 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> they were also wasted when they made win8
06:55 <+kyren> irc username completion
06:55 < xJudgement> So much time on IRC and coding, Id go buggy
06:55 < SniperNLN> kyren, do you want to rid off from the first one? (job) )))
06:55 <+kyren> is a lifesaver
06:55 < BloodyShade> kyren: how do you handle events that need further input from the player, is the game paused until that input is provided or there isn't anything like that in starbound?
06:55 < psychotwo> water, soda
06:55 < xJudgement> Good question bloody
06:55 < TautwiZZ> [Q] Kyren, Steam/In-Game achievements are a possibility?
06:55 < The_First_Gamer> A pause button would be greatly appreciated for SB.
06:56 <+kyren> I hope so TautwiZZ
06:56 <+kyren> very much
06:56 < The_First_Gamer> Since having to open the menu, leave the window, etc. Would be too much of a hassle.
06:56 <+kyren> I'm almost certain yes, but we haven't started on it yet, because we haven't done anything steam api ish yet
06:56 < DevonX> Will there be a wolf like race in the game too? ( would love that)
06:56 < The_First_Gamer> What dissapoints me is that SB will not be an ARPG.
06:56 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> What did you do before working on Starbound? Any other game?
06:56 < The_First_Gamer> Which saddens me a bit, since I really wanted SB to be heavy on the RPG side.
06:56 <+bartwe> I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen
06:57 < Walross> These links are driving me crazy.
06:57 <+kyren> well, right now in game inputs don't pause
06:57 <+bartwe> Kyren has been answering questions for 3 hrs already
06:57 <+kyren> er, events
06:57 < xJudgement> kyren your being stolen!
06:57 <+bartwe> and it is time for a break.
06:57 <+kyren> yeah I am kinda tired haha
06:57 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> BUT I WANT HER TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOREVER
06:57 <+kyren> I said I could answer questions forever, and I LIED
06:57 < The_First_Gamer> There is always another day.
06:57 <+kyren> full of lies
06:57 < xJudgement> Have a good break Kyren, thanks for answering our questions
06:57 < DevonX> Cya ^^
06:57 < Whiteluigi> Kyren deserves a rest :)
06:57 < Wurmy> Thanks Kyren. Love you guys.
06:57 < The_First_Gamer> Time is the key, here.
06:57 < Walross> Fruit helmets. This is all.
06:57 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> my life is a lie
06:57 <+kyren> thank you all!
06:57 < The_First_Gamer> Rest well, my devs.
06:57 < DRL> Cya
06:57 <+kyren> bye!
06:57 < zak4488> you can go too bed now bye bye =)
06:57 < Walross> Fare thee well
06:58 < iasfinsdfnklsdfg> bb
06:58 < Walross> *bows*
06:58 < xJudgement> bartwe you finishing up question session
06:58 < Wurmy> I am going to make with the sleep face. Night everyone.
06:58 < The_Decryptor> Thanks for answering our questions
06:58 <+bartwe> xJudgement: nope, but you are welcome to my twitch stream of boringness
06:58 <+kyren> no problem, thank you guys for being so supportive
06:58 <+kyren> oooh bartwe twitch stream
06:58 <+kyren> watch it
06:58 < SniperNLN> Thank for everybody for a good time. ^_^
06:58 < xJudgement> x3 You make me laugh Bartwe, Im out, thanks again guys, Ill be buying the game first day
06:59 < SniperNLN> And thanks again for devs for what they are doing. Best wishes!
06:59 < xJudgement> Oh one last thing
06:59 < xJudgement> You guys pwn the Battlefield devs, actual live chat my my.
07:00 < xJudgement> All we get from them is a PDF file x3 later guys
07:00 < Apple_Master> How can you compare DICE and Chucklefish?
07:01 < psychotwo> oh crap
07:01 < SniperNLN> DICE - what is that?
07:01 < SniperNLN> xD
07:01 < psychotwo> here they come in masses
07:02 < nebnebbenm> hello all
07:02 < psychotwo> and main man Tiy is back
07:02 < nebnebbenm> Tiy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
07:02 < psychotwo> oh fffffuuuuuuuu
07:02 < The_First_Gamer> Tiy is not here.
07:02 < The_First_Gamer> It is his ghost.
07:02 < SniperNLN> Oh, btw, no new random monster of whenever?
07:03 < Wangotango> rip tiy - he died doing what he loved; suffocating in the depths of space
07:03 < Shion> Still answering those programming questions?
07:03 < The_First_Gamer> It ended about 6 minutes ago.
07:03 <@Tiy> I have rice crispies
07:03 <@Tiy> mm
07:03 < Shion> crap (
07:03 < Seiga> return!
07:03 < The_First_Gamer> If they were to keep answering questions.
07:03 < Whiteluigi> The question session is over.
07:04 < The_First_Gamer> Then they would never get any work done.
07:04 < dust87> hi
07:04 < meow_> yummeh
07:04 < Seiga> small time, tiiiuuuyyiri
07:04 < The_First_Gamer> Ewww, rice crispies tastes horrible.
07:04 < zak4488> yumy
07:04 < Seiga> I am back with a footlong sub
07:04 < Wangotango> their work is answering questions
07:04 < dust87> can i ask a question?
07:04 < Wangotango> the real people making the game are ea
07:04 <+kyren> sorry, I answered questions for like 3.5 hrs
07:04 <+kyren> I'm so tired :<
07:04 < ryanmm> sleepy time
07:04 < psychotwo> go rest, kyren :)
07:04  * The_First_Gamer Hands Kyren a blanket
07:04 < Whiteluigi> Kyren has earned a well deserved rest.
07:04 < The_First_Gamer> Sleeels.
07:04 <+kyren> no, I actually woke up at 1am
07:04 <+kyren> I'm not going to sleep
07:04 <+kyren> I just have to go shower, and eat