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- DAVID WATSON AKA SAM THE SKUNKMAN AKA SAM SELEZNY AKA Dr. FrankenbeanStein AKA Dr. FrankenWeedStein AKA King of Snitchcraft
- He Is Quickly Becoming The King Of Copyrighted Strain Genetics
- I will begin with the smoking gun as to his bust
- Here is an interview with Mel Frank. In the video, Mel talks about his friend from
- California, a very good marijuana breeder he says, who was busted twice and
- ultimately went to the Netherlands. This friend is alleged to have brought Skunk #1,
- Haze, Durban Poison and Afghani #1 to Holland.
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvkcfrcXmMM
- Now, on with the show.
- http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/5009/Archief/archief/article/detail/2479440/1998/03/14/Watson-Mijn-bedrijf-is-geen-witwasmachine.dhtml
- [quote]In september 1994 kreeg HortaPharm BV opiumverlof van het ministerie van
- volksgezondheid. Het bedrijf van Watson mocht Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) gebruiken
- voor chemisch analytisch onderzoek. THC is een van de stoffen uit de hennepplant die
- als medicijn gebruikt kunnen worden. Het verlof werd alleen voor het onderzoek
- gegeven, niet voor het telen van marihuana. Ook het toedienen bij de mens van THC is
- niet toegestaan. Vorig jaar september liep het verlof af en een tweede verzoek is
- afgewezen. In kort geding bestreed Watson zonder succes die beslissing en nu dient
- zijn hoger beroep. Daarnaast is Watson ook in beroep gegaan bij het College van
- beroep. Een advies over de zaak dat nu op het bureau van de minister ligt, stelt
- Watson opnieuw in het ongelijk. Watson kan op die laatste stand van zaken geen
- commentaar geven. Hij krijgt volgende week pas officieel antwoord. Dat het advies al
- is uitgelekt, ziet hij als een hernieuwde blijk van stemmingmakerij tegen zijn
- bedrijf. “Blijkbaar is het de bedoeling om de grond onder mijn bedrijf vandaan te
- halen”. Al maanden voelt Watson zich met de rug tegen de muur staan en moet hij zich
- voor allerlei zaken verdedigen. Zo werd, ook in Kamervragen, gewezen op het feit dat
- hij voorkomt in de computer van justitie in Santa Cruz, Californië. Hij zou ruim
- dertien jaar geleden zijn opgepakt voor het kweken van hennep. Watson heeft voor die
- affaire een advocaat in de arm genomen. Die heeft deze week in Santa Cruz een zaak
- aangespannen met als doel de naam van zijn cliënt te zuiveren. Volgens een
- medewerkster van advocaat R. Schentz staat Watson in de computer, maar dat is dan ook
- alles. Er is geen rechtszaak geweest, en dus ook geen veroordeling. “Ik was de dag
- van de arrestatie niet eens in Santa Cruz, maar in Nederland”, is Watsons commentaar.
- [/quote]
- [quote=google translate]
- In September 1994 was HortaPharm BV opium license from the Ministry of Health. The
- company Watson was Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) for chemical analytical research. THC
- is one of the substances from the hemp plant which may be used as a medicine. The
- leave was given only for research, not for growing marijuana. Also, the
- administration in man of THC is not allowed. Last September the leave expired and a
- second request was rejected. Interim relief Watson fought unsuccessfully that
- decision and now serves his appeal. In addition, Watson has also appealed to the
- Board of Appeal. An opinion on the case that is now on the desk of the minister,
- Watson argues again unsuccessful. Watson can give to that state of affairs no
- comment. He will next week only official response. That the advice has already been
- leaked, he sees as a renewed expression of animus against his company. "Apparently,
- it is the intention to extract from the ground under my company". For months Watson
- feels with their backs against the wall and he must defend himself for everything.
- Was so, even in a parliamentary question, pointed to the fact that it appears in the
- computer prosecutor in Santa Cruz, California. He would have been arrested over
- thirteen years ago for growing hemp. Watson for the affair took a lawyer. Who has
- this week in Santa Cruz filed a case with the aim of purifying the name of his
- client. According to an employee of attorney R. Schentz stands Watson in the
- computer, but that is all. There has been no litigation, and therefore no
- condemnation. "I was the day of the arrest, not even in Santa Cruz, but in the
- Netherlands," is Watson's comments.[/quote]
- Not the best translation, but his lawyer was unable to get his name removed in the
- dutch court proceedings, he at least admits there was a bust in Santa Cruz which he
- now says never happened.
- [img]http://oi60.tinypic.com/fm3t4g.jpg[/img]
- Do you know what exact bust is Sam referring to when he said he wasn't even in the
- US? Is it the Sacred Seeds bust? Sam claims that he never got busted and never served
- a day in jail. He also said he was the only founding member of Sacred Seeds he has
- never mentioned any other growers/members in S.Seeds. If noone else was a member then
- who did the police bust in the US since Sam claims he was in Holland at the time?
- LOL
- Sam did not start The Sacred Seeds Collective... it dates back to pre-illegalisation
- and had seed stored at that time that went all the way back to seeds imported in the
- teens and early twenties for the then legal market.
- Sam The Skunkman and also Romulan Joe formerly known as Mendocino Joe are both
- snitches and thieves who ran off with genetics they did not develop and then claimed
- the genetics and made beaucoup money. The ONLY thing Sam did with Skunk #1 was to
- remove the skunk from it, yet he has the nerve to use the name "Skunkman".
- Watson was never anything more than a hangaround with Sacred Seeds and Joe was a
- hangaround who could not make the grade to gain a patch with several East Bay Biker
- groups who fell in with the Korean War vets who brought what became Romulan back
- during the Korean War and carefully cultivated and selected in greenhouses in the
- East Bay and South Bay for a decade and a half before Joe showed up.
- Sam the Skunkman was in fact present for the famous Santa Cruz bust of Sacred Seeds. Somehow
- he got out before anybody else. Long before. And somehow the DEA threw all the seeds,
- stored pollen, equipment and whole plants into a dumpster and left it guarded by
- nothing but crime scene tape. And then Sam disappeared. Along with a big chunk of the
- Sacred Seeds seed bank.
- [quote=Shantibaba]
- Hi All
- listen as it is a touchy topic depending upon the side of the water you are on,
- let`s call it a difference of opinion based on similar evidence. The point to all of
- this is that certain things are documented well and have been covered in Holland by a
- radio program that authenticated their facts before going to air. Make of it what you
- wish to believe and let`s be civilised in discussion or remain silent. I do not wish
- to begin to tell off people or ban them so please do not make me start....all the
- best Sb
- Sam and Nevil use to work a bit on strains together but when it was revealed that Sam
- and his crew of Americans in Holland all were part of informants for the DEA in
- America on a radio program in Holland they split to the UK to do other things. Sam
- never started or owned a seed company so his claim to all the strains that became
- famous years ago are not really warranted.[/quote]
- Contacting VPRO Argos about the dutch radio station broadcast, below is a very basic
- summary of the facts surrounding the VPRO Argos broadcast that is mentioned in the
- Dutch Parliamentary records which also spurred a wave of interest in the Dutch media.
- [img]http://oi58.tinypic.com/33n9ug5.jpg[/img]
- I can't help but notice that the VPRO accepts the possibility that the info about the
- case may be imprecise if Sam's legal name is different. On the other hand if the
- sheriff gave them such info it may well be valid and true..and probably is
- considering all the facts.
- [quote]
- Thanks to Uncle Sam
- After 1985 de quality of Nederwiet improved tremendously. Currently "our" wiet is
- considered to be the best. Is that because of Sam Selezny, alias David Watson, the
- super breeder from the states? Or is he under orders?
- Report: Bas Barkman and Gert Hage
- It was a lovely day, spring 1985, when a heavily built American landed at Schiphol
- airport. He wore glasses, his long blond hair kept together wih an elastic band.
- Without problems he passed customs and shortly afterwards received a warm welcome
- from another equally heavily built American.
- Seemingly nothing special, certainly not in the crowded arrivals area of an airport.
- No one could have known that the lugage of the ponytailed man contained a box full of
- seeds- Cannabis seeds.
- The box was the reason for Sam Selezny's trip to Holland. He was here by invitation
- from two pioneers in the weedgrowing industry. Two companions: Michael Taylor and
- Wernard Bruining, the owner of the first coffeeshop in Amsterdam. Although they
- already grew some nederwiet, the quality of it was not particulairly special, the
- knowledge they possessed of growing wasn't extensive enough.
- During that time in Holland, there were probably no more than three big growing
- sites, covering a total a maximum of two thousand square meters. In coffeeshops
- Marrocan hash was still the most popular.
- Sam Selezny, the super grower from the states, as Taylor had announced him to
- Bruining, would change this.
- It proved to be true. Hardly three months after his arrival the first harvest from
- Fat Sam's seeds could be smoked. The connoisseurs where excited, the wiet tasted
- good, with a "high" high.
- Hardly anyone knew at that time, especially not in Holland, that Sam Selezny, who in
- Holland presented himself mainly under the name David Watson, was arrested on the
- 20th of march that same year in Santa Cruz, California.
- It was nine years later in the summer of 1994, when Mario Lap, at that time working
- for the Dutch Alcohol and Drugs Institute, tapped Hedy D'acona on the shoulder in
- Brussels.
- "Hedy, can you tell me why you provided David Watson with a license (to grow)?" Lap
- asked the newly appointed MEP and former minister of Health. Lap had only just before
- that found out, to his utter astonishment, that Watson, who he only knew by the name
- of Selezny, was granted a license to grow marijuana for scientific purposes.
- Why on earth Watson, a man with what he had heard a shady past in the states as
- illegal grower, a man who also had been detained and who certainly was not a
- scientist?
- And why not the Academic Medical Center in Amsterdam, which had been after a license
- for years to research the medical workings of the plant?
- MEP D"Ancona didn't know.
- The ministry itself couln't provide Lap with any clearance on the licence which had
- been granted on 16th of september 1994, signed by "plaatsvervangend" director general
- of health, Drs RJ Samsom.
- Lap; "I couldn't find out how it had happened. Very strange. A bit scary too."
- In two big greenhouses in Rijsenhout, a village near Schiphol airport, the process
- was already under way to develop a cannabis plant with a high THC content, which in
- due course could be used as a basis for medicine. Or rather, it was on those terms
- that, after years of negotiating, the license was granted.
- Three years, with limiting conditions; only chemical analytical research, not more
- than 10 grams of THC and a spotless administration.
- The office and lab of Hortapharm are based in Schinkelhavenkade in Amsterdam. A
- little green building, a big window which in the evenings is covered with a steel
- sliding door. Inside it smells of fresh wiet. David Watson is on his guard. He wants
- to talk, but demands the final say on every sentence written about his firm. It is
- the end of September and Watson is waiting for the decision on the renewal of his
- license. "I want to continue with my research" he says, "I cannot use any publicity
- which might be possibly disadvantageous to my business.
- He is startled when he hears we know the location of his greenhouse. "There are
- millions worth of plants and apparatus, no one is allowed to know."
- Hanging on the wall behind him are 5 licences, granted by the DEA, a worldwide
- operating organization, whose task it is to fight drugs.
- Watson doesn't receive his longed for renewal of his license.
- The ministry announces at the end of September that, since the minister forbids the
- medical supply of cannabis, a license to grow cannabis is no longer in line with the
- health ministries' policies. Besides that, during repeated inspections of Hortapharm,
- it was found the Admin was not run according to the requirements. The decision is
- definite, the two locations where hortapharm is based have to close their doors. On
- 29 October the Ministery confirms their decision in writing to Hortapharm: The head
- officials of Justice in Haarlem and Amsterdam have been informed of the fact the
- license has now expired.
- On Schinkelhavenkade however, it is business as usual, the director and only
- shareholder told us last Monday. He saw the decision of the minister in a different
- light. "There are people who want it that way" he said, was his cryptic explanation,
- but there are also people who want it in a different way"
- From his point of view nothing has changed, an "on-going situation". "There is info,
- and there is correct info. They are false statements from the ministry and it's not
- the first time. "
- He didn't want to comment any further on the matter.
- It is not surprising Watson, Alias Sam Selezny is not very willing to talk. Him and
- his firm came under fire only recently during a broadcast from the VPRO. This
- broadcast even lead to questions being asked in Parliament (about the licence)
- The radiomakers had contacted the sheriff of Santa Cruz, who confirmed the arrest of
- Watson on March the 20th in 1985, in relation to illegal cannabis growing.
- How it was possible Watson could set foot in Holland a month later, no one
- understands. Why wasn't he, caught red handed, in prison? As a rule the American
- Justice system doesn't show clemency to drug criminals.
- There are presumptions, also mentioned in the radioprogramme. Is it possible Watson
- struck a deal with American Justice, mainly the DEA? In other words, has he, in
- exchange for his freedom agreed to cooperate with the justice system from time to
- time?
- Questions which are left unanswered.
- The DEA never talks, something the enquetecommitee "van Tra" discovered too.
- On the 5th of November, Minister Borst answered the questions in Parliament.
- No, there had not been a antecedenten investigation in regards to the person
- requesting the license.
- There had been doubts though about the reliability of the request, especially wether
- the cannabis would only be used for scientific purposes. But there was no proof to
- turn these doubts into hard facts. On the basis of doubt a license could not be
- rejected, in the court of law.
- Actively requesting personal information from the police register had never been
- done, but she was planning to do so in due course.
- Subject closed.
- But the case is even stranger than it actually seems.
- How did Watson acquire the funds to found Hortapharm? After some research it shows
- Watson wasn't only involved in illegal weed growing in the USA, but in Holland too.
- Not weedgrowing as a hobby, but on a grand scale, a business worth millions.
- It was clear the Dutch Wietgrowers caught a big fish with getting David Watson on
- board. A man fascinated by the secrets of the cannabis plant. A man on a mission,
- convinced of the blessings of cannabis.
- Like every American, he thought big. Just like Michael Taylor, also known as Michael
- Rich. They became companions, throwing themselves on the big scale growing of
- nederwiet.
- Wernard Bruining declined. "It became too big and too fanatic. They wanted to be the
- best and biggest, which wasn't necessary for me."
- It was annoying for him though that two of his greenhouses were busted shortly after
- wards. A coincidence, the police told him, they just happened to come across it. "But
- it was the first time they busted a big greenhouse. Before that they had never
- managed to do so"
- In the summer two big sites where busted, the third empty upon arrival. Various
- employees where arrested, Watson and Taylor stayed out of sight. In the "us knows us"
- world of growing they were already for some time known as people who pulled the
- strings. Shortly after wards stories circulated the two Americans had started again.
- Within a few months they had set up a new greenhouse. This one was busted too, but
- again no sign of the Americans.
- Were they simply too smart, or was it something else, something invisible
- (untouchable)?
- No one paid too much attention to it. There were suspicions, but the were erased
- when the two continued a few years later, undisturbed.
- It was the era when partially thanks to Watsons' seed, Holland's masses switched to
- nederwiet.
- It became an internationally recognized product, the new pearl of the dutch
- horticulture.
- But in 1992 the calm tide turned, when in the vicinity of Tilburg two massive
- growsites were busted, with according to the police 40.000 plants.
- Sirens, squat teams, broken doors and a lot of screaming. Two of the approximately
- fifteen suspects broke down practically straight away under questioning and mentioned
- the name Watson as the big man and investor behind the wiet operation. Justice didn't
- act. Didn't ask questions about him, didn't even investigate the large amount of
- funds which apparently left the country via Luxemburg.
- Watson was and remained, to the surprise of many, a free man and founded Hortapharm
- that same year.
- Supported by advisers he started negotiating with the health ministery about
- acquiring a license. One of these advisors was ex police commissioner (?) K Sietsema,
- at that time already active as Private detective. "If I know Hortapharm? If we're
- talking about the same firm then yes, " Sietsema says; "but I don't talk about my
- clients, a kind of code of honor"
- In the world of the wiet growers suspicion arose. One after the other growsite was
- busted, tens of people disappeared behind bars, but one of the biggest and probably
- best could continue without any disturbances.
- That the American Godfather of Nederwiet had such good contacts that he could
- continue to practice his profession legally for three years, the ultimate breeders'
- dream, was considered utterly strange.
- Coincidence?
- The arrest in 1985, the large scale busts of grow sites without any consequences for
- Watson or his Companion, Hortapharm and its first license, the advisor Sietsema, it
- was too much of a good thing.
- Were Watson and Rich DEA informers after all, as some people had claimed them to be
- before?
- "They started at the right side, but Watson had little choice" Bruining thinks; "It
- was or going to jail or cooperate with the American Justice system."
- Mario Lap, who amongst other things advices the PVDA (dutch political party) on
- drugs problems, is sure of his case.
- His last bit of doubt dissapeared upon discovering that the Australian Police was
- in possession of a list, compiled by Watson, of renowned Dutch breeders, including a
- precise description of their products, even mentioning the genetic codes. Handy
- with the eye on the plans of the ministry of health to make growing indoors illegal.
- "Instantly those creeps have the monopoly, later on they'll be the only ones
- allowed to breed the seeds, which is what it is about" lap says bitterly.
- Which would make the DEA mission successful. They have the names of the breeders,
- their products and eventually the market of neder weed in hands.
- The DEA has thus proven not only to be champion of controlled drug flow, but has
- also proven itself to be the best wiet grower in the world."
- Copyright: HP/De Tijd 5-12-1997.[/quote]
- [quote=Neville]
- Neither Marco or Joe Pietri checked the statements that JP attributed to me before
- publishing. Before making statements that are damaging to someone's reputation, you
- need to be sure of your facts, or have first hand knowledge.
- I stand by my testimony re Sam. I was there, I had the documents from the Australian
- Federal Police that Sam gave me and I passed them on to Mario Lap. The rest is
- history.
- I don't know what Sam has said to Marco, to do an about face like that. JP's article
- was not factual and therefore an apology is in order, however it does not mean that
- ALL of the allegations were false, I know they are not.
- N.(nevil)
- ......
- Very true Nev, Sam has cleverly swung this to look like the victim, there is a thread
- at icmag where guys like chimera and tom hill are screaming mad and saying Marco
- needs to do this and that to make right, give money to a charity of skunkman's choice
- etc.
- I would love to step into that thread and say 'hang on, just cos JP was talking
- shite, doesn't make Sam an angel' but it would be deleted asap so why bother.
- Maybe it is time to tell your side of the story Nev. I've had some articles
- published in Marco's magazine, if you wanna provide the info I'd take the time to
- write an article, but given Marco's new stance he might not want to publish it.
- .......
- I've done that. I've limited my story to the facts. I could speculate what else Sam
- and Rob had in mind when they tried to get me to explain my pedigrees to the feds
- (patents), but the fact remains that they tried to get me to work with the cops in
- order to give people more jail time for what we all do, grow dope. This makes him a
- "dog" in the Australian vernacular. It's all I need to know.
- N.
- [/quote]
- [quote=dbud1369]It is about seeking the truth. So with that in mind, we all know that
- Nev spent time in jail for his bust (about a year) without ever being charged.... but
- when Sam got busted in '85, then showed up in Amsterdam - did he spend time in
- jail, was he charged? And name ONE other company that has a DEA exemption to use
- Cannabis in the US, just one??? any one???? There aren't ANY? There have been
- Doctors who have tried to get permission to get and use Cannabis to do studies and
- have been repeatedly DENIED > But they [Hortipharm] get the only Import/Export
- DEA approved Cannabis use. They (GW) own about 11 patents on cannabis (cannabinoids)
- and uses and extractions. How does the ball bounce so high in one direction for
- Sam, he got all the breaks in the early 90's and all the way through. I know for a
- fact that there have been many uses of Cannabis for testing purposes (like Brown
- University) and the DEA won't even acknowledge that they DID a study. But let's
- ask someone who would know about the FEDS caring about patients, like their OWN
- FEDERAL PATIENT Irv Rosenfeld - the federal gov't never has done a follow up on any
- of the 13 original IND patients(ya know the ones who can legally smoke cannabis
- WHEREVER THEY WANT per FEDERAL GOV"T) check out the Missoula study for a follow up on
- Irv (done by my friends here in Montana)[/quote]
- [quote]There's no jail time in '85 for Mr. Sam. and if served it was very short and
- un-documented. Then showed up in EUROPE with Ed Rosenthal? weird connection to make
- along the way. The "third party DEA " permit to Import/Export Cannabis in US. There
- are doctors and universitys that apply for this to to studies and repeatedly get
- denied.... In fact there are now reports in one state that when a Laboratory filed
- for Sched. I drug handling permit .. they got raided the next week (THIS HAPPEND
- TWICE ) - The DEA permit allows the handling and possesion of Cannabis for research
- and Scientific purposes only. - (ya know like what GW is doing) but for them to deny
- any other University or Doctor access to handle this plant and to continue on with
- recoginized studies.... they control it all. The DEA has colaborated with GW and SAM
- - in ca-hoots if you will.[/quote]
- Marco Renda upon lawyers consult made a public apology to sam for a previous article
- written in TY in which Joe Petri, another DEA informant, was quoted outing 'sam the
- skunkman' as a fellow DEA Snitch.
- [quote=Matt Rize]
- TRUTH will never be revealed on this topic, because sam won't let it out. He denies
- an '85 arrest...? That's just the start.
- He hasn't commented on marco's apology on ic... and you know he has seen it, he is a
- damn mod with 1000 snitches/fanboys over there, and they censor every post with
- financial and political scrutiny.
- Seems if he is hiding the truth it is most likely for a good reason. No one wants to
- deal with the skeletons, especially regarding huge illegal transactions, lol.[/quote]
- [quote=Marco Renda]
- All I was told is that Sam has 3rd party contracts. Sorry but I have never seen a DEA
- contract before so I really don't know what is on 1.[/quote]
- Sam the Skunkman is the one collaborating with Monsanto to produce GMO modified
- cannabis along with herbicide ready varieties and strains ****with NO THC content****
- HortiPharm ( Clarke and Watson) sold the HortiPharm genetic library to GW
- Pharmaceuticals. And GW is connected to Bayer Pharmaceuticals. Bayer is the money
- behind the acquisition of close to 40k acres within the Emerald Triangle. That
- partnership bought Bayer the licensing for Sativex in the US as the only competitor
- for Marinol.
- Read Dr. David Malmo-Levine sometime on where all this crap is going
- Google patent number 6,630,507
- "sam" is a conspiring thief who cornered the market by turning in his competition to
- the DEA
- Lets put another myth to rest , Sam wasn't the FIRST American to get to The
- Netherlands , nor was he the first to bring Kush region genetics to Norcal or even
- the primary source of 'em.
- In point of *fact* there are records of Indica genetics in this country dating
- ***from the days of prior legality*** and mostly in the regions in which the medical
- cannabis of that time were raised. And Bigpharma of THAT era was heavily invested in
- cannabis.
- Sam's beef with Neville seems clear enough: Neville sold strains to Ben Dronkers’
- Sensi Seeds while Sam sold the same ones to GW Pharm leaving questions of "property
- rights" for when cannabis became normalized.
- If it was just ego on the line, that would be one thing. Unfortunately there is much
- more at stake, especially in light of the fact the Bitter Petrols, Original Gangsters
- and M16s of the world are all in fact hybrids derived from lines Skunkman and company
- would like everyone to believe are their responsibility. And it doesnt take very long
- to see how that benefits these individuals in the long run and how that could affect
- the "community" later.
- Its amazing what one can find with a little bit of research. I found the information
- below quite significant, in that it clearly shows Hortapharm is providing samples of
- cannabis (presumably Skunk #1 and other common varieties used in today's modern
- breeding scene) which are being used to "establish conspiracy in the cultivation of
- marijuana"
- How many varieties of cannabis are hybridized with Skunk#1, or Northern Lights,
- White Widow, Haze, etc? If these samples are sent to testing facilities funded by the
- United States government, which are then being used as evidence in conspiracy charges
- against growers and maybe even breeders, think of the ultimate implications of
- Hortapharms cooperation with the Drug Enforcement Administration. If you've got a
- variety of cannabis related to the samples provided by Hortapharm, and find yourself
- on the wrong end of the law and your plants are then analyzed and found to be
- genetically related to the samples provided by Hortapharm, that information can then
- be used as evidence to support a conspiracy in cultivation charge not just against
- you, but perhaps those who provided the seeds to you and even the breeder themselves.
- With some time pondering over the ultimate outcome(s) that this research could yield
- in terms of potential legal ramifications against many well known names in the
- industry today, one can not take this information lightly or simply over look it as
- so many of you have chosen to do thus far. Potentially anyone not associated with
- Hortapharm could find themselves a target from the samples of cannabis provided to
- the US government for this research. Pillars of the breeding industry such as Skunk
- #1, Northern Lights, Haze, White Widow etc. are the basic building blocks of
- commercialized seed today. Their prevalence in breeding programs around the world
- today is not questioned, thus making professional and amateur seed alike related in
- some shape, form or fashion to these lines extremely common. And thus rounding into
- the potential for anyone not associated with Hortapharm to become a target simply
- based on genetic relation of their strains to those of the samples Hortapharm has
- provided the government to use in the aiding and abetting of bringing conspiracy of
- cultivation charges against anyone who finds themselves on the wrong end of the law.
- Genetic Variation in Hemp and Marijuana (Cannabis sativa L.) According to Amplified Fragment Length Polymorphisms*
- Shannon L. Datwyler, Ph.D. 1,2 ; and George D. Weiblen, Ph.D. 2
- 1 Department of Plant Biology, University of Minnesota, 1445 Gortner Avenue, Saint
- Paul, MN 55108.
- 2 Present Address: Department of Biological Sciences, California State University,
- Sacramento, 6000 J Street, Sacramento, CA 95819.
- Correspondence to Additional information and reprint requests:
- George D. Weiblen, Ph.D
- Department of Plant Biology
- University of Minnesota
- 1445 Gortner Avenue
- Saint Paul, MN 55108
- E-mail: gweiblen@umn.edu
- *HortaPharm B.V. (the Netherlands) and Kenex Ltd. (Canada) provided controlled
- substances for research registered and permitted by the United States Drug
- Enforcement Administration and the Minnesota Board of Pharmacy with support from the
- David and Lucille Packard Foundation and the Minnesota Agricultural Experiment
- Station. The study was first presented at the Botanical Society of America Annual
- Meeting in 2004 at Snowbird, Utah.
- Copyright Copyright © 2006 by American Academy of Forensic Sciences
- KEYWORDS
- forensic science • DNA typing • amplified fragment length polymorphism • analysis of
- molecular variance • heterozygosity • DNA fingerprinting • sex linkage
- ABSTRACT
- ABSTRACT: Cannabis sativa L. (Cannabaceae) is one of the earliest known cultivated
- plants and is important in the global economy today as a licit and an illicit crop.
- Molecular markers distinguishing licit and illicit cultivars have forensic utility,
- but no direct comparison of hemp and marijuana amplified fragment length polymorphism
- (AFLP) has been made to date. Genetic variation was surveyed in three populations of
- fiber hemp and a potent cultivar of marijuana using AFLP markers. Ten primer pairs
- yielded 1206 bands, of which 88% were polymorphic. Eighteen bands represented fixed
- differences between all fiber populations and the drug cultivar. These markers have
- practical utility for (1) establishing conspiracy in the cultivation and distribution
- of marijuana, (2) identifying geographic sources of seized drugs, and (3)
- discriminating illegal, potent marijuana cultivars from hemp where the cultivation of
- industrial hemp is permitted.
- Received 17 Dec. 2005; and in revised form 21 July and 3 Oct. 2005; accepted 22 Oct.
- 2005; published 13 Feb. 2006.
- Here's another one.
- Identification of candidate genes affecting Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol biosynthesis in Cannabis sativa
- M. David Marks,1* Li Tian,2† Jonathan P. Wenger,1 Stephanie N. Omburo,1 Wilfredo
- Soto-Fuentes,1 Ji He,2 David R. Gang,3 George D. Weiblen,1 and Richard A. Dixon2
- Plant growth and gland isolation
- Seeds from the marijuana cultivar Skunk no. 1 were provided by HortaPharm BV
- (Amsterdam, The Netherlands) and imported under a US Drug Enforcement Administration
- (DEA) permit to a registered controlled substance research facility.
- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2736886/pdf/erp210.pdf
- Here are some quotes from, and about ole' sam, the crusader for cannabis.
- Speaking at the International Cannabinoid Research Society (ICRS) conference in
- Montpellier, Dr Geoffrey W Guy, Chairman of GW Pharmaceuticals, said that HortaPharm
- will provide GW with exclusive access to its entire range of cannabis varieties for
- the development of medicines. The worldwide rights acquired by GW for an undisclosed
- sum cover varieties grown to date with certain exceptions and all varieties to be
- bred in future.
- In addition GW will fund HortaPharm's botanical research and HortaPharm scientists
- will assist in the UK Glasshouse propagation, cloning and cultivation programme.
- Dr Guy, said: "There has been much speculation as to the exact role of the various
- chemical components of cannabis in treating patients with illnesses such as Multiple
- Sclerosis and AIDS wasting syndrome. In particular THC (the psychoactive constituent
- chemical) has received much attention. Historical medical reports and more recent
- work may point to the influence of cannabidiol (CBD) in epilepsy and stroke for
- example. We wish to explore the therapeutic benefits and the potential for reduction
- in unwanted effects that may be offered through administration of complete extracts
- containing various defined ratios of the principal cannabinoids."
- Mr David Watson, Chief Executive of HortaPharm commented "HortaPharm leads the world
- in its understanding of cannabis botany and has built up over many years the most
- extensive 'Living Library' of Medicinal Cannabis varieties. As soon as Dr Guy's
- clinical research indicates the exact desired composition our scientists can breed
- and register new medicinal varieties".
- http://production.investis.com/gwpharmaceuticals/releases/1998-07-23/?version=1
- http://www.gwpharm.com/Details%20released%20of%20collaboration%20between%20GW%20Pharmaceuticals%20and%20Hortapharm%20medicinal%20cannabis.aspx
- "It looks like dope, but really it's hope," explains the proprietor, American
- entrepreneur David Watson. What he means is that many of these plants have been
- specifically bred not to produce an intoxicating resin or hashish. Indeed, HortaPharm
- hopes to thwart the aims of the average recreational user.
- The team are already close to finding their own commercial Holy Grail - seeds that
- will produce a one-off, female, seedless crop of plants with no psychotropic effects
- (or THC highs, to the layman) for the consumer. Why, you might ask, would they want
- to do that?
- .....
- Mr Watson and his Dutch colleague, biochemist Etienne de Meijer, are confident that
- by using their own exclusive cross-breeding methods, they can develop healthy plants
- which will combine only the desired chemical make-up of individual medicines.
- There will be no generational deterioration and no genetic difference between each
- plant because they will be bred from themselves: they will be cloned. "You can clone
- a plant 10 times," explains Mr de Meijer, "and every time it will be exactly the
- same."
- Mr de Meijer has developed his own technique of "self-progeny" - or "selfing" -
- where he turns half of one female plant temporarily into a male. Fertilising a plant
- with itself in this way means the same genetic make-up can be reproduced.
- "I can make 20,000 clones with 'selfed' parents in two weeks," he says. "Humans may
- degenerate from inbreeding, but these plants do not. I'm sure I am the first person
- to apply this method of inbreeding to cannabis and I found the selfing process was
- amazingly simple."
- But the unique research has no market in Holland. "Because the sale of the drug is
- tolerated in coffee shops, there is no interest - though people don't really know
- what they are buying," says Mr Watson.
- .....
- As a result, the seeds that HortaPharm is producing are passed straight on to Britain
- to take their place in the soil at the ground-breaking facility set up this summer by
- Dr Geoffrey Guy in south-east England. "We hooked up with Dr Guy in January and right
- now all we are doing is providing the basic building blocks for his work," says Mr
- Watson. "We were rather surprised that it would happen in England first."
- HortaPharm's sample plants are analysed in the laboratory with a gas chromatographer
- and with each new batch the team homes in on the plant's distinct chemical components
- or cannabinoids - THC, CBD, CBC, CBG and THCV. When Dr Guy completes his medical
- research in Britain, HortaPharm will breed plants to supply the right combination of
- active ingredients for his treatments. "Once Dr Guy has worked out what he wants in
- chemical form, we will find him the right physical characteristics, too, by combining
- desirable features from plants found around the world - high-resin production and
- resistance to disease," says Mr de Meijer.
- HortaPharm is only interested in developing female plants that are sterile, but this
- is not just to protect their genetic copyright. "If a plant is not kept busy
- producing seeds, all its energy can go into resin production," says Mr de Miejer.
- Sitting at his computer screen in Amsterdam, Mr Watson can keep an eye on the
- perimeter fence at Dr Guy's British farm via the internet. "The security he has there
- is amazing," says Mr Watson, who flew out to plant the first seeds there two months
- ago.
- In June, Dr Guy's company, G W Pharmaceuticals, secured the first British licence to
- grow the plant for medical purposes. By arrangement with the Home Office, the doctor
- can farm cannabis plants and investigate their properties with a view to marketing a
- cheap herbal-based answer to the debilitating symptoms of MS, Glaucoma, Parkinson's,
- cancer, asthma and Aids.
- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/cannabis-a-year-that-changed-minds-1200871.html
- .....
- There is no question that GW plans to enforce its patents on Sativex, which is a
- precisely dosed medicine. Warns Guy: “To protect our extensive investment, we have
- sought to identify and patent certain inventions throughout the growing, extraction
- and manufacturing process. My comments to Mr. Lucas were made as a friendly and,
- hopefully, helpful gesture as I did not wish him to invest a great amount of effort
- into obtaining approval for a product as a prescription medicine only to find that he
- did not have the freedom to operate in the first place.”
- Guy’s warning was reiterated shortly after I arrived in England to interview him,
- when Mark Rogerson, GW’s grey-templed, elegantly dressed, public relations man, met
- me at the Oxford train station. “Once it’s approved and Sativex becomes a medicine
- under the law, there needs to be a minor change in legislation so it can be
- prescribed,” he said, as he steered his Hyundai (his Audi was in the shop) into
- near-gridlock. “The Home Office has already said they will do that, and then patients
- will be taking a legal medicine. But if you are an MS sufferer, it would still be
- illegal for you to grow cannabis at the bottom of the garden to treat your symptoms.
- Our medicine will be legal, but anything else will not be.”
- http://www.walrusmagazine.com/print/2005.02-medicine-medical-marijuana-activist/
- ............
- Speaking at the International Cannabinoid Research Society (ICRS) conference in
- Montpellier, Dr Geoffrey W Guy, Chairman of GW Pharmaceuticals, said that HortaPharm
- will provide GW with exclusive access to its entire range of cannabis varieties for
- the development of medicines. The worldwide rights acquired by GW for an undisclosed
- sum cover varieties grown to date with certain exceptions and all varieties to be
- bred in future. Plant registrations arising from the Dutch breeding programme will be
- owned by GW.
- http://www.gwpharm.com/Details%20released%20of%20collaboration%20between%20GW%20Pharmaceuticals%20and%20Hortapharm%20medicinal%20cannabis.aspx
- ........
- At a secret location in southeastern England, GW Pharmaceuticals has built what
- might well be the most high-tech pot palace on the planet. Surrounded by electrified
- razor wire, video cameras, and motion detectors, the greenhouse sprawls across more
- than an acre of land. At any one time, more than 15,000 marijuana plants are growing
- under its 14-foot ceiling, with its banks of lights. Inside is a sea of green,
- comprised of some of the world's most potent strains of pot: Hindu Kush, White Widow,
- Skunk, Northern Lights. Outside of the Netherlands, GW is the only commercial
- organization in Europe licensed to cultivate cannabis on this scale.
- http://www.maps.org/media/fc021704_2.html
- .....
- “Monsanto terminator technology is being applied to Cannabis by (David Watson) at Hortapharm in Holland".'
- http://community.kpfz.org/node/17
- Quote: “Terminator seeds are genetically engineered to produce a plant that will not
- produce viable seed, meaning that growers would be forced to go back to Monsanto each
- year to buy more seed stock to replant. Governments and public alike became wary of
- the concept when it was discovered that the terminator seed could possibly cross the
- species barrier, possibly spreading infertility among the plant kingdom like a
- disease.”
- Quote: As we can learn from the Mayans in the foregoing article, the concept of
- saving seeds is sacred and central to their spiritual and physical way of life. The
- same is true for cultural and religious practices all around the world, whether
- you’re a Christian, Buddhists, Hindu, Muslim, Jew, or just a plain old Human Being,
- the concept of saving seed is as old as human society itself. If corporations like
- Monsanto, GW Pharma, Bayer and HortaPharm are allowed to carry out there interests,
- they will hold the genetic copyrights to all Cannabis strains on the planet. GW
- Pharma and HortaPharm have stated their intent to engineer Cannabis strains similar
- to Monsanto’s terminator seed technology. Their strains seem to be artificially
- manipulated to produce "one-off sterile females" which prevents reproduction of
- harvest-able seeds. These are the kinds of strains that are waiting to be controlled,
- regulated, licensed and taxed after the potential passage of proposition 19 in
- California and many similar initiatives across the United States being funded
- directly by Monsanto shareholders.
- Quote: “Cannabis seeds from Monsanto are almost definitely genetically engineered.
- Genetically engineered plants can be patented, and it is in Monsanto's best interest
- to hold a patent on any seed they sell. Seed patents ensure that companies like
- Monsanto can continue to profit from seeds from year to year, as farmers are legally
- bound to buy patented seeds from the patent holder rather than simply store them from
- the last year's crop.”
- Quote: “Evidence of an attempted Canadian medical marijuana monopoly began back in
- 2000, with a leaked, unpublished document entitled "Draft Statement of Work for The
- Development of a Comprehensive Operation for the Cultivation and Fabrication of
- Marijuana in Canada". The plan called for a seed monopoly - "a licit source" only -
- and the eventual phase-out of all but a pharmaceutical "inhaler" device. According to
- the anonymous source who leaked the document, the first version of the plan also
- called for cannabis strains to be patented "as if they had been genetically
- modified". It appears that GW Pharmaceutical and Bayer have now done so with the
- Cannabis strain "Grace".”
- Quote: “Cannabis monopolies are nothing new. One can argue that the prohibition of
- Moses's holy kanneh-bosm annointing oil - found in Exodus 30:32 - a prohibition for
- people other than priests and kings - was a type of cannabis monopoly. When botanical
- medicine became popular again in the fourteen hundreds, women healers were first
- called "unschooled" and later called "witches" to prevent them from competing with
- the newly emerging male pharmacists. The same thing happened in the mid eighteen
- hundreds, except this time instead of "witches", these botanical healers were called
- "quacks".”
- Quote: “A source within the Ministry of Health, who wishes to remain anonymous, has
- provided documents and information to Cannabis Culture, describing how Canadian pot
- is to be grown for upcoming medical trials. The documents call for 185 kg (408
- pounds) of pot to be grown in the first year, and double that amount for the second
- through fifth years.”
- “The thirty-five page guideline document, with the weighty title, Draft Statement of
- Work for The Development of a Comprehensive Operation for the Cultivation and
- Fabrication of Marijuana in Canada, is still open to revisions. It includes proposals
- for how marijuana should be grown, processed and fabricated. Included in these
- guidelines is the potential to give a notorious pharmaceutical company exclusive
- rights for selling seeds to the budding medpot industry.”
- Round-Up ready cannabis here we come!
- That is sam's contribution to our community aside from ruining Skunk.
- Terminator seeds owned by GW pharm
- How much in royalties might be owed once all common "building block" strains are
- patented like romulan, white widow, haze, skunk #1, northern lights et.al?
- Patents on cannabis strains are not gonna be a good thing for anyone but ole' sam.
- Especially since Bayer now has been licensed by GW Pharma to produce Sativex ,
- Monsanto is in the mix and of course HortiPharm turned over and licensed their
- genetic base to GW (and of course ya need to research Kennex an Novartis in all this)
- All courtesy of the sellout of the weed world and friggin pirate extraordinaire David
- Watson pissant snitch that he was/is along with the bitch known as Robert Connell
- Clarke
- The powergrab by BigPharma on MMJ is already here , the folks that *think* they're "
- movers and shakers" within the industry currently such as Richard Lee , Ken Estes (
- both of whom have the ethics of a shithouse rat) , Harborside etc are being moved out
- for the arrival of the BIG players.
- And they're after patenting the genetics. Especially around the new high CBD strain
- push. And of course the jackass pirates have moved into THAT area too , like it's
- anything new since the pre-prohibition " Hemp" strains were very high in CBD and CBN
- while having a low THC content. But since those strains ***are still in existence and
- grown in much of the world for industrial hemp*** the seed companies are trying to
- keep 'em from the Med market , and JUST the "medical" seed market worldwide is a
- MULTI billion dollar a year business.
- And again, HortiPharm is the **ONLY** DEA licensed seed and gentics production
- company in the world. Supplies genetics to the labs and facility at U of Miss , and
- David Watson didn't exist prior to his arrival in A'Dam in '85 , somehow toting along
- somewhere between 5 and 20 lbs of seed..........odd isn't it that HE got out after
- the Sacred Seeds bust and the rest of the folks didn't , and when you're running from
- the DEA how do you turn up in A'Dam with pretty much ALL the NorCal genetics in tow?
- More history from Shantibaba, to give you insight:
- Now to clear up the story and myths that go around, due mainly to people in the
- industry(other seed companies) who are more interested in making money than giving
- information that is correct. Haze brothers worked on the Haze’s and they did get to
- Sam and Nevil(owner of THE SEEDBANK…and then Ben Dronkers retailed Nevils strains
- under the label of SENSI SEEDBANK after Nevil had some jail time in Australia .Nevil
- was the first seed bank or company to exist in Holland so his legendary strains such
- as Northern lights 5, Ultra skunk , Nl5 Haze, Early pearl , Early girl, Shiva
- Skunk….and so on became the basis for a lot of offspring seed companies that followed
- in the 90s.
- In fact companies like Dutch passion and Nirvana began by copying Nevils seeds from
- the F1 seed…but most of them would never say so as they are Dutch business men who
- see dollars first and not genetics….Sam and Nevil use to work a bit on strains
- together but when it was revealed that Sam and his crew of Americans in Holland all
- were part of informants for the DEA in America on a radio program in Holland they
- split to the UK to do other things. Sam never started or owned a seed company so his
- claim to all the strains that became famous years ago are not really warranted. He
- did however do a lot of work on Skunk and shared some seed with Nevil, but as you
- know for breeding you cannot just take any plant and make a strain like Greenhouse
- does nowadays. I was working in Australia on varieties like Mullumbimby madness and
- Thai and Columbia strains of sativas, as well as a lot of original Afghan stock. When
- I came to Holland in 1990 with my seed stock I linked up with Nevil , and used
- Arjan’s coffeeshops to introduce strains of cannabis and a little later the seed
- versions, but we never gave any of the plants to him.Arjan just sold seed produced by
- Nevil and myself. I co founded the Greenhouse Seed Company with Arjan in 1994(unlike
- Arjan’s claim it began in 1985 from him alone…he was angry that I sold my half share
- to him and left in 1998 to Switzerland and to open Mr Nice Seedbank with Nevil and
- Howard…but I was and still am the sole owner of MNS). In 1995 I came out with the
- seed version of White widow, then White Rhino 1996 and White Shark 1997…el nino1998 ,
- Himalayan gold and so on. Nevil and I co worked on some Haze strains during the early
- to mid 90s of which Super Silver Haze and Mango Haze were two strains that eventually
- came out of this work.The seed was sold under the Greenhouse Seed co label but Nevil
- held those plants and only sold the seed of these varieties as well as the weed
- version that won all those awards.So as to help Arjan sell the correct weed we set up
- our own independent grow rooms and produced those weeds and Arjan bought them all so
- as no other Dutch shop could compete. In those days the Greenhouse sold the correct
- weed and seed.But in 1998 when I won all the cups with Nevil(including Shantibaba’s
- Hash for best nederhash) I was givien a better offer by a Swiss group to set up a
- medical cannabis farm and distil oil…so I sold my share to Arjan and left. A lot of
- people were shocked as they thought we were a solid unit but actually Arjan was over
- the top already with his success and his ego was too much to listen to and
- considering the Swiss thing had unlimited possibility where as Holland was stuck at
- being glorified dope dealers….as it still is today. Medical was more my interest.
- I took all my plants which made the seeds, especially my fathers and Nevil put all
- his plants with me so together we had a library of all genetics possible in the
- cannabis world. Nevil soon sold his part in one of the coffeeshops and had a big
- problem with Arjan too…but it took another year or two for them to split. Take a look
- at the High times Cannabis cup after 1998, so 1999 onwards….only while Nevil was
- there did they win with SSH, but that soon left with Nevil and Arjan even got caught
- cheating or trying to bribe people to win cup…so was disqualified one year.
- A lot of stories exist about the Widow family and a lot of people had access to some
- of the female versions I left in Holland and soon began claiming to be the creature
- etc….but the original seed versions that won the first cup in 1995 came from my
- plants not anyone else’s. Till today we have all the plants in original form. Franco,
- the Italian working for Arjan now does not even know the original plants as he did
- not come on the scene till after I left. I have nothing against him at all but he is
- paid by Arjan and is part of that show so believes what ever is feed to him. The GHSco
- tried to get things going by buying some seed Nev and I had for sale from a guy in
- Holland during this time. The guy called me up and told me Arjan bought a few
- thousand euros of this seed and a year later came out with seed under the well known
- names he had used previously. The growers could not know this until they grew it out
- and considering a lot of people never grew it before they did not even know what they
- were looking at and still do not.So many seed companies use the names like White
- widow but the genetics are all different. I wrote out the true origins of the plant
- and everyone copied that so it looks like everyone is selling the same genetics but
- it is they are all selling a name that sells…nothing more.Ask Franco to show you a
- photo of the original parents that make the widow…he cannot as he has never seen
- them.The Ghsco linked up with others like Ingemar who claims to be the widow breeder
- but he is only a grower and he never came out with a seed version until after I made
- it in 1995. But all the facts have become mixed and people try to confuse the grower
- by claiming things that no one else can prove to be correct or wrong…as there are no
- rules in the seed game since all cannabis is actually not recognized in the official
- plant world as sub species due to it being drug related. So in actual fact no one
- owns nothing…even all the trademarked R after the names you see from various seed
- companies are all bullshit as they are not really able to protect any names as the
- plants do not officially exist…but that is another story.
- In the late 90s I gave plants to Soma, and he began a seed company a year later
- too…mixing his skunks to my males. This has occurred many times to me just look at
- the Spanish seed companies and 10 years ago…none existed until I went there in 1995
- and gave away 3 kilos of seed to growers via Canamo magazine….but that is another
- story too.
- Now the female seed story saved a lot of seed companies who never really breed seed
- as you only need a F1 female and chemicals….no need for a male…..so go figure why
- companies like the Greenhouse or Dinafem etc…set up selling female seed…..the money
- the demand and not really needing skill with males are all prerequisites to make a
- female seed. It is therefore obvious to me why Arjan (who is a very marketing person
- nothing more) and Franco come out every year with a new name plant…they buy an
- original F1 seed and donk it with silver nitrates and there you have there products…
- but now adays there are so many doing it it is incredible. Even companies have called
- me to tell me they feminised a clone of Critical mass in spain and call it critical
- plus….but say nothing more than thanks. So actually I really do not care any longer
- about other companies and what they say. We at MNS sell the real versions that won
- the original awards and made the legends…nowadays it is all confused and everyone is
- going feminised…except MNS. We exist so people who like to breed will be able to with
- the original true breed plants that come from selection and natural collection from
- traveling around the world. As they say, an empty barrel makes a louder noise…and we
- are full.
- ShantiBaba
- [quote=Cannabis Farmer]
- Who is Sam the Skunkman and where did he come from? Better yet, whom is he really
- backed by?
- As with almost everything these days the hidden agendas of those who are trying to
- control the weed market, or any power organization, the theories abound. To me, in my
- opinion, there is only the gut feelings and organizational independence to keep you
- on a straight path.
- Cannabis Farmer is always interested in weed, how to grow and how to cultivate.
- Having spent the better part of 45 years in the search for knowledge and power in the
- plant have provided an abundance of providence.
- In the first case I should admit to personally knowing Joe Petri both in the early
- days in the Far East and these later days of his activism on the west coast of the
- USA. For the most part I stay the Cannabis Farmer, just dedicated to growing and
- sharing – as we did back in San Francisco during the mid sixties. It was Joe who
- brought the first, and best, water pressed Afghan to us. I remember it well. Smoking
- it for the first time in Aaron Russo’s rock venue in Chicago.
- I watched as Joe worked the scene in Bombay and created the market for American
- Touristers to Australia. An amazing run. Joe was creative and helped a lot of people
- make a living from their lifestyles. I do not know of one instance where Joe “turned”
- on anyone but I did see some abandoned runners. Who they were running for is where it
- gets cloudy and Joe was not close enough to be on the bad edge.
- Perhaps Joe’s abrasive tone does not sit well with many, but his idea is straight as
- an arrow. Cannabis is a plant, its use is no business of governments and there should
- be no laws granting or taking any right to a natural plant or imbibing in it. Freedom
- does not allow governments to tell you what to do with plants unless you give them
- the rights to tell you how to live. Did you?
- Joe Petri reflects what Cannabis Farmer’s live for – weed for whatever you want. This
- puts him at odds with the sellouts who try to subvert the effort at ending
- prohibition using the lame excuse of medical necessity. Who does not have some pain,
- some problem, something? So what?
- Cannabis is a simple plant, a weed, and its control by government is just wrong. What
- started as a corporate terrorist action to tax cannabis out of existence by Morgan
- banks and Dupont Chemicals (to capitalize the patents for synthetic fiber – which are
- running out and the reason laws are being eased) has been replaced with extreme
- disinformation about a simple weed. All this obscuring the fact that government,
- particularly one under the original US Constitution, has no right making a plant
- illegal. Joe Petri campaigness for the end of prohibition, he, and we, fight for the
- same thing. Others want to allow continued government control over what we can and
- cant do with plants – by letting government control the plant under their medical
- system.
- This allows a joke to be made of medical marijuana in so far as you only need to find
- your doctor Feelgood and get a paper to buy it. But it leaves the control of a plant
- under the government.
- Sam the Skunkman? Well, I have not had any personal contact with this gentleman and
- the contact here is the most I have had. I had seen him around the “scene” for years
- promoting bubble bags at the various conferences, but he did not make it to my level.
- Maybe he was too much in Amsterdam and not in the world of global marketing? Mostly I
- have seen him pushing the mud bags, the worst rip off in Cannabis history. Trying to
- sell bags and more bags to ignorant stoners, sort of an easy job.
- The case Sam the Skunkman makes on my blog to lambaste Petri is weak at best. Calling
- him a snitch when it is he who should be wary of such labels. Skunkman has spent his
- time in trying to corner the coming legal cannabis market by getting on the top of
- the government distribution. One must have some kind of connection to get to this
- level and that is why Sam the Skunkman has problems with credibility.
- Since the DEA and CIA will not disclose the names of their agents or snitches it will
- be impossible to verify the veracity of anyone working for them. It is up to you to
- decide where you will place your confidence.
- As for me, the Cannabis Farmer, I like Joe and I think Skunkman an arrogant agent of
- mis-information as he pushes a lot of people at the top of the junk pile and his
- horrible bubble bags.
- [/quote]
- [quote=Detroitmike]
- High Times-Operation Green Merchant-Cannabis Cup
- On March 20th 1985 David Watson was busted for growing in Santa Cruz, California,
- Watson a junior member of the Sacred Seed collective. The Sacred Seed bank collective
- was created in the 1940’s, most original members long gone or well into there 70’s, a
- generation or more older than I, I’m 63, and have been in Cannabis trade 50 years
- and I can only speak from my 50 years experience of fighting the drug war.
- A month later, Watson, now traveling as Sam Selezny arrived in Amsterdam in the
- company of Ed Rosenthal. In his baggage, were the research from the sacred seed
- collective, and 250,000 cannabis seeds. Ed Rosenthal introduced Sam Selezny as David
- Watson to everyone who was anyone at the time on the Dutch scene. Which was very
- small compared to what it is today.
- Surviving members still question how Watson managed to pull this off? A collective
- member states that Watson was a junior member, had nothing to do with creating Skunk
- or`haze strains attributed to Skunk-man as he is now known. Original Skunk had the
- real skunk spray smell, impossible to mask.
- The first time I met Skunk-man at the 2007 cup his first comment to me was that I
- blew his cover due to a chapter in my book King of Nepal The Ice Wars edition? He
- even put up wanted posters for me at the cup calling me a snitch. On the scenes I
- came from if was a snitch I’d be dead long ago.
- By the time you finish this article you may realize that Sam Selezny aka David Watson
- aka Skunk-man started as a DEA undercover agent, whose undercover career makes Donnie
- Brasco pale when compared, since he finally became a DEA licensee and ”private
- contractor” with the power to make the agency move against competitors
- and anybody in his way and to cut deals with Bayer, Monsanto, and the Dutch and
- English Government. Ed Rosenthal’s duped by Watson as well? Rosenthal was the
- cultivation expert at High Times at that time.
- Was Watson/Selezny working undercover to bring Sacred Seed collective down? Then used
- Ed Rosenthal to develop his Skunk-man cover and go deeper undercover in Amsterdam?
- Did Rosenthal make his fortune from selling our scene to the Dutch due to Reagan drug
- war policy, which shut down ol skool, and any High Times competitor upstart? At what
- point did Ed Rosenthal realize that Skunk-man was DEA undercover?
- Neiderweit went from shit to shineola with the introduction of the sacred seed
- collective’s seed bank, now renamed Cultivator’s Choice.
- In 1987 Steven Hager was named the new editor for High Times. Operation Green
- Merchant was also created in 1987 the brainchild of DEA agent Jim Stewart. The target
- being High Times, and Sensimilla Tips, as well as the blossoming Indoor grow
- industry. Sensimilla Tips, the all time best grow magazine was put out of business.
- In 1989, raids were conducted in 46 states on grow shops and wholesalers. The only
- one to remain unscathed was High Times, amazingly?
- Operation Green Merchant worked many angles. One that they pulled off in Hawaii was
- they opened a grow store in Kona, partied, smoked and got to know some growers,. They
- offered growers a deal, we will give you seeds, nutrients, what ever you need, you
- grow the product and bring it here where we will ship it to your people, you collect
- the money and pay us a share. Only a few went for the deal at first, that went super
- smooth, all packages arrived safely, monies paid, and the share given to grow shop.
- 2nd year everyone jumped on board, they busted people from Kona to Brooklyn, You can
- only imagine the numbers, 100’s of folks lost everything, many went to prison..
- Nearly all busted in 46 States came from information seized from High Times and
- Sensimilla tips, hell all they needed to do was read the magazine, which is how DEA
- Jim Stewart came up with the idea for Green Merchant, shooting fish in a barrel. At
- this point was High Times compromised? Or?
- In 1987 Hager went to Amsterdam to interview Nevil of the Seed Bank, while there he
- meets the Skunk-man, who relates tales to him about harvest festivals in Santa Cruz
- and suggests having a Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam as a yearly event. The Skunk-man
- spins his web and Hager is taken in, from this point on everything stated by either
- Skunk-man or his partner Robert C Clarke is taken as fact, Remember Rosenthal is
- cultivation editor, and Clarke used to write under R. Connoisseur at High Times as
- well. Hager being a newbie was enthralled by the lies coming from this trio. At this
- point cannabis history starts to be rewritten by High Times.
- In 1988 the first Cannabis Cup was held and lo and behold Cultivators Choice wins for
- Skunk #1. Imagine what an intelligence bonanza the Cannabis Cup, where every grower
- comes to judge the best strains and buy seeds. The database created a DEA agent’s wet
- dream. Funny things started to happen around Amsterdam, seems as if a lot of
- Cultivators Choice competition were being busted, and even Skunk-man’s own warehouse
- grows are busted as well but he remained untouched, took his money to Luxemburg and
- returned to go on, while everyone else went to jail.
- In 1990, Nevil Shoenmakers who was also targeted by Green Merchant for his seed bank,
- was not extradited by Holland but was arrested in Australia, where his lawyer in
- court records noted that the police had dossier on Nevil as well as everyone who was
- anyone on the Dutch scene, and that they were complied by Sam Selezny, now known as
- David Watson AKA Skunk-man. This is public knowledge in Amsterdam, noted by Dutch
- crime investigator Mario Lap. Lap investigated Selezny/ Watson as well as Ed
- Rosenthal. Skunkman according to Hager in High Times article sold seeds to Nevil..
- You have to wonder if the Cannabis Cup an idea the Skunk-man proposed
- had been an operation of Green Merchant? How best for DEA to get information on
- growers than to open a seed bank in Holland, create a cannabis cup, and even win the
- 1st cup awarded?
- Every top grower in the world goes to Amsterdam for the Cannabis Cup, a bonanza of
- information for DEA and law enforcement around the globe. One has to wonder when
- Rosenthal and Hager realized that Skunk-man was DEA undercover? Without a doubt
- Skunk-man had his claws in High Times, who printed his every word as if gospel.
- Everyone busted but High Times, the smell of sulfur coming to my nose, certainly not
- true skunk. Had a deal been struck between Government and High Times and so they
- could remain in business? Since this time much of what has been written by High Times
- is in fact fantasy made up by the Skunk-man to build up his mystique as well as his
- cover. The Haze brothers a figment of Skunk-mans imagination, a play created for
- stoners in order to hype their products. Frankly I shouldn’t blame the Dutch so much
- for fraud as Skunk-man was the one who taught the Dutch the ropes and they fear him,
- as we fear DEA here.
- It’s beyond question that the Skunk-man has been a source of information to police
- agencies around the globe.
- 1994 David Watson/ Selezny was issued a cannabis research license for Hortapharm R &
- D along with his partner Robert C. Clarke aka R. Connisseur, above legitimate
- Universities and PHD’s due to the strong endorsement of DEA, instead of extraditing
- him back to Santa Cruz for that grow bust in 1985? To this day he is one of two
- companies allowed to import cannabis products into US, and the only supplier licensed
- by DEA to supply seeds of predictable quality for research. In a 1998 interview in UK
- Journal, he stated that Hortapharm only wants to produce sterile females, to protect
- the genetic copyright? He has sent botanist’s around the globe to contaminate and
- collect inbred landrace strains, in order to confuse origin in order to claim
- intellectual copyright. Now he claims to have the largest library of medicinal
- cannabis seeds in the world. In other words he patented the munchie effect amongst
- others. Wherever you go on the planet you will find skunk gene pool, this is a war
- crime, to contaminate the original medical strains so as to be able to call them your
- intellectual property is obscene. Just as the making of Mother Nature’s healing
- plants illegal is a war crime, so is the research Hortapharm is doing. Instead of
- extraditing Watson back to Santa Cruz for his 1985 grow bust, he was praised and
- supported by DEA.
- In 1997 the inventor, Reinhard Delp introduced the Ice Water Method at the 97
- Cannabis cup and it was off to the races, the most copied and ripped off formula in
- Cannabis history, and who designed and created the fraud? Skunk-man with Clarke, Mel
- Frank and High Times. He did this in order to confuse the origin of the patent.
- During the 97 Cup Reinhard had offers promising the world for an exclusive license
- for the method patent pending by “an English Pharmaceutical outfit”, he did a
- comparison test for them with a bigger machine, where he trashed a Pollinator as to
- quality and quality, but finally refused the “exclusive” and insisted on real
- “publishing”, for immediate use for everybody.
- At the end of the 97 Cup Hortapharm set up a meeting with Reinhard where Clarke
- demanded “we can’t publish that” and asked why, responded “the people can not handle
- it, it is too strong.” Unaware of the “powers” of Hortapharm, the inventor told
- Clarke that he was full of it and they had a “fall out”. Reinhard never wanted to
- play monopoly with characters like Hortapharm, Bayer or Monsanto.
- The meeting happened at Bill Barth’s place, a much liked, very outspoken fellow,
- equally unimpressed by Clarke at the meeting. The inventor was later told that Bill
- passed away in his sleep.
- Crazed by their money and the power they had due to their DEA connection,
- High Times and most European Cannabis publications in their pocket, Hortapharm’s
- Watson and Clarke set out to erase the introduction of the Xtractor 420 and the Ice-
- Water-Method on the 97 Cannabis Cup from Cannabis history. One year later Mila, who
- just broke a license contract with Reinhard was now the proud owner of the Hemp
- Hotel, received a government grant to develop her invention and Clarke was marketing
- Mila and her new invention: the Ice-O-lator. But Mila was stupid enough to sell her
- “new creation” with the instructions she received with the XTR 420 .
- Another glitch in the scam: some journalistic conscience managed to record the event
- from 1997, simply explaining the new Method in High Times May 98 issue.
- In his book Clarke spins the Ice-Water-Method back to the old unsuccessful “Sadu Sam
- Secret” Recipe, which Ed Rosenthal did not mention anymore in a 96 High-Times article
- about Hash, even though he was selling the recipe on a 900 fax years earlier.
- Clarke streamlined the recipe for his book, cold water became “chilled”, Mila was
- introduced as the Lady Of Hash and the 1997 XTR 420 was otherwise blacked out of the
- Media. “No limit”- Skunkman approaches the inventor in e-mails, boasting about 10 000
- square meter grows, claimed to have designed Mila’s and the Canadian “Bubble man’s” ,
- Mark Richardson’s inventions and threatens legal action, “prior artwork” and “what
- have you”.
- In May 2009 Reinhard’s financial lifelines grobots.com and icecold.org got busted by
- the DEA, the company and home vandalized, company inventory destroyed, all private
- and company money taken. (treatingyourself.com, issue 19 “Update”)
- He does not stop to sue them for patent infringement.
- Also taken was the Cannabis Collective’s seedbank, ten pounds high quality Cannabis
- seeds from landrace strains -sounds familiar?
- Skunkman stole the method like the strains he had stolen, created GW Pharmaceuticals
- on the promise of the Ice-Water-Method and hoped to control all cannabis based
- medicines. In fact Sativex was created from Thai genetics, I wonder how the Thai
- government feels about that since cannabis has 8400year history as medicine in
- Thailand?
- Watson due to his control of information has been able to pull scam after scam as an
- endorsement from High Times is all you used to need in this business. He knows that
- young stoners and medical patients have no cannabis knowledge and that he can sell
- anything he wants, the frauds have had a tremendous effect on the quality of medicine
- produced. At the same time he has been a mentor to the Dutch who now play from the
- same deck of control of information.
- I know by now you have reached the WTF moment in this article, how much more stinky
- is this going to get?
- Let’s face it no corporation has more at stake that cannabis continues to be illegal,
- so that only they can produce cannabis based medicine than GW Pharmaceuticals, now
- part of Bayer. GW not only bought strains from Hortapharm but also funds botanical
- research. They paid to collect medicinal strains around the globe while contaminating
- them with skunk strain to confuse origin. By doing this they legally could shut down
- all medical grows for infringing on intellectual property of GW and Hortapharm. Does
- the GW stand for Guy & Watson? When asked now, that GW made it, they inform that
- Watson and Clarke are no longer with them.
- WTF, talk about quantum leap, from being wanted for a grow bust in Santa Cruz, to
- being the CEO of Hortapharm, with 5 DEA licenses and partners with GW and Bayer.
- Dude, not only did the the DEA seedbank win the 1st cannabis cup, but last year Danny
- Don’t Know, the new cultivation expert at High Times, named the DEA seed-bank
- Cultivators Choice as the all time greatest seed-bank. Then went on to state that
- Skunk-man was the founder of Sacred seeds, when that collective can be traced back to
- before prohibition. There is no foundation of truth from Danny Don’t
- Know nor from High Times when it comes to Skunk-man, they were duped, hoodwinked,
- bamboozled, led down a trail of tears.
- From setting up grow shops to operating seed banks in Holland is no quantum leap in
- information gathering during Operation Green Harvest. Or that some of their assets
- from that time, continue to provide information to this day.
- Worse thing of all is that for the past 22 years or more everything written on
- cannabis is written in support of frauds these people created. So they have you
- spending more for growing less. That the quality of cannabis and cannabis seed has
- gone down from what ol skool medical imports were originally is without doubt. The
- best cannabis was grown during the golden age of Cannabis 1840-1940, when it was
- legally farmed for medicinal use, Sacred Seeds sought to preserve those strains.
- September 2010, Danny Don’t Know states that High Times has no connection to Skunk-
- man. Wow has he changed his tune, but is it the truth?
- No, Robert C Clarke, partner of David Watson - Skunk-man in Hortapharm and GW
- Pharmaceuticals, continues to promote fraud.
- In a special issue of High Times that basically introduces new products to consumers.
- Clarke brought the bubble bag fraud full circle again, calling it a new innovative
- technique, basically using the same information they used when they introduced these
- frauds in 1998-2000. They have a new generation of young stoners and medical patients
- with no cannabis knowledge to cheat.
- There are 3 photographs that show the fraud for what it is:
- 1. You see resins glands at bottom of glass, valuable oils and terpenes
- floating on top, and on top of that water floating, clear separation seen. You lose
- immediately 30-40% using either 25 or 33 micron catch bag. From this point you should
- have gone to coffee filter 5 micron, but you don’t make money selling paper coffee
- filters. Everything about bags works against and retards the Ice Water technique, the
- US patent was granted in 2000, but for Europe and Canada only in 2006 (!). Every time
- you add a bag on top of the 2 bag system you can add a dilution, in a 9 bag system
- you have diluted formula a dozen times. What they neglected to tell you is that
- Mother Nature does all the work for you. The ice method made sieving and all forms of
- processing cannabis obsolete.
- 2. In Clarke’s article he states nylon sieving bags as new innovative technique.
- Well thank Soumi La Valle for leaving us his great work on Hashish. Circa 1979 there's
- pictures of a Lebanese cannabis worker holding her 70- micron sieve. This is the final
- sieve used in making the finest Lebanese hashish, they started with metal window
- screen to remove seeds and stems and that material they processed threw 3 sizes of
- nylon sieves the 1st being 150 micron –120 micron-70 micro being the last sieve used
- to make 00 hashish the finest. . They attached this Lebanese technique to the Ice
- Method and called it new innovative technique, when reality the Ice method made
- sieving obsolete. They told you to grind up your material, why? As in the ice water
- environment leaves become flexible, fiber matter stays intact, and resin glands fall
- off with simple agitation. What they don’t tell you is that the method releases the
- oils in trichomes, and that the bags have no way of collecting them, flavor, taste,
- aroma lost. Clarke calls it a new innovative technique, when sieving of Hashish goes
- back to Alexander the Great in the Bekaa Valley of Lebanon, and is one of the oldest
- techniques used by Chinese farmers in Asia going back 1000’s of years, before nylon
- they used silk, metal sieves were introduced in the 19th century and are still in use
- in Afghanistan to this day. What’s funny is that all the grow gurus never show you
- the Lebanese technique, as that would expose the fraud.
- 3. There is a photo of the back of a Lebanese hash factory and mounds are
- leftover cannabis from the hash making process. I can reprocess that left over
- material, and give you more and better hashish than you made to begin with, because
- everything under 70 micron was left behind. I can do the same with any material run
- threw any bag system, flavor, aroma, taste I will recapture using correct technique.
- All these years the same people have profited enormously due to the illegality of
- cannabis.. The very people who claim to be Free Da Weed are actually working to keep
- it illegal so only they can profit. The learning curves and misinformation these
- people have put out never ceases to amaze me.
- Mark Heinrich who recently did a 2hour interview with Nevil, who is now living in
- Perth. This interview will appear in TY. Stated that not only had Skunkman written a
- dossier on him for DEA, but was recently offered a deal from his bail jumping charge
- from 1990, stemming from Operation Green Merchant. Auzzies would drop charges if
- Nevil would allow Skunkman access to his genetics, so that he could get their DNA and
- track crops around the globe. He refused.
- The Cannabis Cup has the stink of Skunkman and operation Green Merchant, who knows
- how many folks have been arrested and sent to prison due to intelligence gathered at
- the High Times Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam.
- [/quote]
- [quote=Steven Hager]
- Truth is, Sam had no idea I’d be inventing the Cannabis Cup later that year, as I
- didn’t even get the idea until I was on the plane home. Did Sam’s stories of the
- Santa Cruz harvest festivals of the 1970s influence me? Of course. But Sam never
- presented himself as a major player in those harvest festivals, or even the boss of
- Sacred Seeds, or the breeder of Skunk #1, which was his primary strain. The story I
- got was Skunk #1 popped up unexpectedly and everybody loved it, and it won some early
- harvest festivals. Which is pretty much the story you get about most of the really
- famous strains.
- When I returned to Holland for the first Cannabis Cup months later, Sam was there to
- greet me. He wasn’t sure he wanted Cultivator’s Choice, the name of his new Seed
- Company, to enter the first Cannabis Cup, which so far consisted of Nevil’s Seed Bank
- and Ben Dronkers’ Sensi Seeds. As I recall the Sensi Seed strains were all freshly
- harvested and we couldn’t smoke them without running the samples through a microwave.
- It would take another year for many to catch on to the importance of curing, and keep
- in mind some people in the industry weren’t even stoners. Nevil didn’t care whether
- he won, or whether Skunk #1 won, because he had both Skunk #1 and Northern Lights.
- The final decision was not Dave Watson’s, but something entirely decided by grow guru
- Bram Frank and I because we liked the taste. The only other judge was the
- photographer Jiffy Schnack, who preferred Northern Lights. Nevil at the time was into
- dry sift made from Haze, which he kept to himself, while Sam and Robert were smoking
- full-melt Skunk #1, and were giddy about the way it turned to liquid when they hit it
- with a flame. This was all new to me.
- A few years later, Arjan of the Greenhouse showed me a report by Mario Lap indicating
- Sam was really Dave Watson, who’d been busted in Santa Cruz one month before arriving
- in Amsterdam. And he’d supposedly arrived in Amsterdam with hundreds of thousands of
- seeds for sale one month after his bust. After selling the seeds to Nevil, who was
- making a fortune at the time in cash sales, Watson got the only license to study
- medicinal cannabis in Holland. It sure looked like Watson was secretly working with
- the DEA, and those operations might include tracking the ID’s of all the strains of
- the world and documenting the growers and dealers distributing them.
- I don’t know if this database was real, or, if so, if it is still being pursued, but
- Mario claimed Watson had written a profile on the situation in Australia that named
- many growers and dealers.
- I would not be surprised if Watson is a spook, and I can guarantee the world of
- illegal drugs is filled with spooks in all possible nooks and crannies. He went on to
- co-found Hortapham, which made the deal with GW Pharma, which made the bigger, better
- deal with Bayer, the powerhouse in European medicine. Surely you realize big money is
- an Octopus that pulls strings everywhere it goes?[/quote]
- Treating Yourself - Meet Dr. Frankenbeanstein
- Konsupsa's picture
- Mon, 06/29/2009 - 08:24 — Konsupsa
- Are your expensive Dutch female seeds hard to clone, or when you try to breed them,
- all you get are hermaphrodites?
- Thank Dr Frankenbeanstein, aka the Skunkman, real name David Watson.
- A bit of history:
- At a 1997 Vancouver Hemp conference, Watson spoke of his research. His main focus
- was to stop growers from cloning nor being able to create any seeds, from strains
- being bred in Amsterdam. The funding for this research came partially from the Dutch
- Government, the rest from DEA. Watson had been busted for growing in Santa Cruz
- California 3-20-85 and resurfaced in Amsterdam to start his seed company Cultivator’s
- Choice. DEA supported the Skunkman’s application for a license to grow for research
- in Holland, even though they should have been extraditing him back to Cali for his
- 1985 in Santa Cruz grow bust! DEA endorsement was so strong that he was the first to
- be granted a permit in Holland when several universities and domestic research groups
- with PHD’s and legitimate reasons for research were denied! The Dutch government even
- supplied three greenhouses for Dr. Frankenbeanstein to do his heinous experiments,
- while normal Dutch growers lost all their equipment and had to serve murder-like
- sentences at that time! Dutch seed companies have become the Monsanto of the cannabis
- seed industry, and hope to make us all seed junkies at $20 a seed.!
- The license gave Hortapharm/Skunkman/DEA control over what researchers are allowed
- access to pedigreed seeds of predictable quality! The object is to patent up every
- possible combination of cannabinoids and terpenes with efficacy for every possible
- disease they can treat, and every possible genetic sequence! Once ready to make the
- move, they will shut down every medical cannabis grower for patent fraud, and those
- they can’t will be run out when they produce a more effective product for
- significantly less than $250 an ounce the growers are getting! The Skunkman’s company
- Hortapharm, is the only private organization approved by the Drug Enforcement Agency
- to supply genetics to researchers to this day!
- Gibberillen is a natural growth stimulant, that also changes the sex in plants, male
- to female, female to male. First discovered in the 1930's by researchers looking for
- hormones to stop elongation of the stem during early growth stages of rice and
- prevent crop failures due to to drought or excessive rain, during early growth
- stages. After many years of research, in the 1950's, gibberillens were found that had
- the optimum of success in treating this problem. This is also when researchers
- discovered that gibberillens had beneficial effects on many food crops, increasing
- their yields ten fold! Professor Carlson of Midwestern University created sonic bloom
- in the late 70's, using gibberillens and fertilizers, that when applied to crops ,
- then bombarded with sonic waves at a specific frequency, produced yields in most
- crops that were increased 4-10 fold!
- The discovery of the effects of gibberillens were first noted by Sues who discovered
- the product in the early 80's, and tried it as sold by Carlson for increasing his
- gardens yield by using their product and playing (Music) to his plants. It worked! It
- not only increased his yields but produced a few seeds in his stable of pure females
- plants! The ingredient was gibberillens! After using the product several times, he
- has seeds in every crop there after. Confused as to why, his research discovered the
- main active ingredient was gibberillen. After using this for several years, he
- noticed that depending on when you sprayed gibberillens that there would be a few
- seeds or a large amount of seeds! Size was pretty much increased every time. From
- these experiments he discovered that pure stable female plants could be sprayed at
- the (right) times, and produce a few a few male stamens that would create, exact
- duplicates of the mother and would be feminized seeds, sprouting out as females every
- seed!
- At that 1997 Vancouver Hemp conference Master Grower Seus met Watson and explained
- his discovery and findings on gibberillens. That information went back with Dr
- Frankenbeanstein, and when he got back to Amsterdam he called it his own invention
- and from there came the feminized seed phenomenon.. Watson sold his new discovery to
- all takers. One Dutch seed bank even claim that it is their own invention, I guess
- cause the bought the formula from Skunkman? Over application of gibberillens cause
- smaller and less vigorous seed! The habit of not letting them fully finish, the seeds
- are grey, in distinct and hard to sprout.
- Recently Dr Frankenbeanstein testified at another conference in Canada against the
- use of industrial hemp in Canada! GW Pharm/Hortapharm are scared of the hemp
- industry, why? You see, low industrial hemp produces GW’s miracle drug, CBD as a by
- product! There is primariy one gene that tells a plant to be either a primary CBD
- producer or a primary THC producer! The Bd gene produces the enzyme that converts
- cannabigerol into CBD, and the gene Bt gene produces enzyme that converts cannabigerl
- into THC. If a plant inherits a Bt gene from each parent it will only produce low
- cannabigerol of CBD, and visa versa if it gets a Bd gene from each parent. If it
- receives a Bd from one parent, and Bt from another, it will be roughly 50/50
- chemotype, but this is not true breeding. Most herb in the med clubs is homozygous
- for BT, meaning that it does not produce appreciable amounts of CBD. Since CBD
- actually blocks the psychoactive effects of THC, it was selected against by American
- breeders, even though it is extremely effective in boosting the medical efficacy of
- cannabis, especially with regards to degenerative nervous condition, without any
- psychoactivity! CBD by itself has also been shown to be very effective in treating
- anxiety disorders with effectiveness of valium and other benzo drugs, without the
- extreme addictiveness and potential for overdose! Valium and benzos are the most
- dangerous drugs to detox from! Their withdrawal many times worse than crack or
- heroin!
- The only time cannabis users ever really had assess to a higher level of CBD was
- with hashish farmed with populations with varying ratios of Bd and Bt genes! So as it
- stands now, CBD is not available to any real extent to medical cannabis users! If
- industrial hemp farmers were to catch on, that they’re producing a very needed
- medicine, it will harm GW Pharm/Hortapharm!
- In the UK all you hear is the dangers of the new Skunk-weed, that it leads to
- psychosis, that it drives people insane. Just a few years back it looked like
- cannabis laws in the UK were loosening. Cannabis was re-classified back down to level
- 2, it was the lowest priority for the police. Then all of a sudden this new Skunk
- strain is introduced causing mass hysteria and reefer madness, to the extent that
- cannabis is reclassified back up to level1! What happened?
- One thing we know, the last thing that GWPharm/Hortapharm want is the medical
- cannabis scene catching hold as it has in California, and many other states in the
- US, in the UK! Hortapharm with the support of DEA and GW Pharm have introduce a
- geneticly engineered super strain of Skunkweed, that makes people paranoid,
- psychotic, and makes you completely stupid. If your not an experienced smoker you may
- not handle it well. First time smoker’s can be scared straight, never to use cannabis
- again! Remember chief lobbyist/ spokeperson for GW Pharm is an X DEA head!
- Cannabis has only been illegal 72 years, it had all ways been legal. 100 years ago
- you could buy Cannabis Sativa Americana and Cannabis Indica extract from Parke Davis
- Pharmaceuticals at your local drug store! In fact in the early 20th century Parke
- Davis seed collectors introduced Indian sub-continent seed into Southern Appalachia
- to create Cannabis Americana of equal or greater potency to the Indian sub-continent
- product they were having difficulty importing due to disruption of shipping from
- world war one! Parke Davis collected seeds from India, Turkestan, and Nepal, and sent
- them back to be grown in the Blue Ridge mountains and Mexico! Parke Davis Scientist
- conducted blind trials on themselves and found the American product both more
- pleasant and more potent! Those heritage medical strains were selected from 100's of
- years of selective breeding legally! Nothing today comes close to the heirloom
- medical strains from that period. Anyone who states that the cannabis of today is
- stronger than yesteryear is dreaming. The pot they smoked in the tea pads of Harlem
- in the 1920's-30's was much better than any concocted strains today! Dr.
- Frankenbeanstein with the help of Rob Clarke, Mel Frank, Ed Rosenthal, Milla
- engineered the largest misinformation ripoff campaign in Cannabis history, that only
- diluted the original Ice Water technique by attaching the ancient dry seiving method,
- to confuse the origin of the now patented Ice Water Method. Attaching this seiving
- technique to the Ice Water method, enabled them to sell Nylon at wedding dress
- prices, but makes no sense! Due to their scam most of the bag product is no progress
- since it contains more fiber than old style quality dry seived Hash and lost taste
- and aroma!
- In the Soumi LaValle book on hashish, you see first hand the seiving technique used
- by a Lebanese family in Baalbek , the different screening process is shown in it’s
- entirety, from that book came the idea for bags. In a dry seive you don’t release
- oils, so the naturals terepenes are in the hash, which is sticky. The bag technique
- releases the oils but only collects broken pieces of resin akin to kief not hash! The
- Lebanese women doing the seiving, could out perform 1000 people using bags. It wasn’t
- a revolutionary technique in hash making it was backward steps!
- Yet clever Dutch and Canadian marketing sent out a huge learning curve, and people
- have been ruining there medicine ever since! This ripoff of a patent method will soon
- be settled in a Canadian court. I hate to burst your bubble but Milla and Bubbleman
- had nothing to do with inventing the Ice Water technique! A patent which made all
- traditional forms of processing cannabis obsolete. Dr Frankenbeans sold a patented
- method that did not belong to him, and laid the foundation for GW Pharmaceuticals, we
- all know that the first step of making Sativex is Ice Water Extraction! The damage
- that has been done to Cannabis is immeasurable! He even sold Mexican and Central
- American genetics, as well as Afghan genetics to GW, as his own!! A call to GW and we
- were told that David Watson and Robert C. Clarke no longer work there. Robert
- Clarke’s book on hashish, as well as Rosenthal, Cervantes, Mel Frank, all wrote in
- support of the fraud. You see those idiots go by one rule, all stoner’s are stupid,
- they feed on young stoner’s and medical patients with no cannabis knowledge. Since
- Dutch seed companies control the media and information, they feel that cannabis
- consumers will buy whatever they tell them to buy!
- When old school ran the cannabis scene, you paid $30-50 an ounce for super Columbian
- gold and red, $60-75 an ounce for high altitude seedless Mexican sativa, $100 an
- ounce for the best Thai, $150 for Hawaiian so strong you thought you were on acid.!
- Now you pay $35 for one seed of Jack Herer, which is Mexican genetics. Ed Rosenthal
- sold our pot culture to the Dutch Monopoly, and now the Dutch seed companies are
- selling it back to us at $20 a seed!
- By 2009, several old school pioneers whose books debunked all the myth and out right
- lying surrounding David Watson/Dr Frankenbeanstein. Dutch cannabis industry should
- thank Ronald Reagan by naming a sewer canal after him! Reagan shut us down,
- imprisoned for years, stripped of their wealth and left with nothing to defend
- themselves. In fact The Black Tuna gang leaders still in prison nearly 30 years,
- Brian Daniels the Thai Stick King recently released after 27 years. Howard Marks who
- no doubt sold a lot of cannabis, was a spoke in the Daniels wheel! They used the US
- Air force, Navy, and the Coast Guard to shut down the entire Caribbean, Gulf of
- Mexico, the Eastern and Western seaboard, to finally shut us down, but before we were
- shut down we had a baby, and that baby was called Home Grown American, from the seeds
- we brought back from Asia!
- Watson’s claim that he was the breeder of California Orange debunked by Jerry
- Beisler’s book, The Bandit of Kabul. In the book Jerry shows his creation California
- Orange, and some of the earliest photos of outdoor grows known circa 1973-74, Jerry
- ran one of the earliest documented seed banks in California!
- Without Ronald Reagan the Dutch cannabis industry would have never happened, the pot
- scene is an American phenomenon that spread around the globe!
- It is just a matter of time before one of the medical states legalizes and taxes and
- regulates cannabis. In fact there is a bill being presented in California that would
- do just that! It would tax cannabis $50 an ounce! The Billions in revenue that would
- generate would cause other medical states to follow, remember folks we are in a
- depression! California legalization is the Dutch Cannabis industry’s worst nightmare.
- Once the coffee shops open in San Francisco, that will be the death of the Dutch
- ripoff scene. American seed banks will be able to operate openly on the world stage!
- Organic land race American seed unpolluted by Dutch genetics will take over the
- market world wide!
- The original strains are still available and wild cannabis still flourishes.
- American growers are going back to the original heirloom medical strains and creating
- there own hybrids. Most of the original American strains have been bred and re-bred,
- engineered and re-engineered by the Dutch seed companies, that at this point are
- useless to the breeder.
- Monsanto terminator technology is being applied to our beloved Cannabis by Dr.
- Frankenbeanstein at Hortapharm in Holland. Let me explain exactly what this means and
- use cotton as example!
- In the cotton example, the goal is to develop a variety of cotton that will grow
- normal until the crop is almost mature. Then, and only then, a toxin will be produced
- in the (seed) embryos, specifically killing the entire next generation of seeds. The
- system has three components: 1. A gene for a toxin that will kill the seed late in
- development, but that will not kill any other part of the plant. 2. A method for
- allowing a plant breeder to grow several generations of cotton plants, already
- genetically-engineered to contain the seed-specific toxin gene, without any seeds
- dying. This is required to produce enough seeds to sell for farmers’ to plant. 3. A
- method for activating the engineered seed- specific toxin gene after the farmer
- plants the seeds, so that the farmer’s second generation will be killed.. These three
- tasks are accomplished by engineering a series of genes, which are all transferred
- permanently to the plant, so that they are passed on via the normal reproduction of
- the plant.
- Dr Frankenbeanstein threatened Skunk magazine to have all Dutch advertizing
- cancelled, which amount to 60% of their revenue, after printing part one of this
- article! This is the complete article. Skunk, High Times, Cannabis Culture, Weed-
- World in reality are trade pamphlets, that support the continuing rip off of our
- cannabis community by Hortapharm/GW Pharm/DEA, and the Dutch Cannabis Industry.
- The one beacon of truth telling is Treating yourself magazine in our community. My
- only claim to fame being that I have always been a general in Lord Shiva’s Ganja
- Army. Bom Shiva Bom Shankar Joe Pietri
- King of Nepal
- ^Joe is also a strain stealing snitch who admits in his book to helping the DEA but the fact remains, there is an abundance of evidence that Sam is a DEA snitch and is actively working to both control, and ruin the cannabis gene pool with terminator technology.
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