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- Glitchless Any%: Hookshot Early vs Standard Route Comparison:
- ** Routes are the same up to lullaby
- ** Hookshot Early Route skips Milk Road owl because goron roll to Ranch from Clock Town to waste igt, account for this later
- *** estimate time lost to alien routes under different scenarios at the end
- **** Do a song of soaring count at the end to account for soars
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- *Snowhead Temple:
- HE: block pulled as goron > small key > scarecrow skip > enter fire arrow = 10.13 + 31.13 = 41.26 (tatakiwaru setup, decently fast)
- S: block pulled as goron > small ket as human > boost onto ledge > puzzle > enter fire arrow = 30.25 + 20.69 + 21.09 = 72.03
- **** Splitting into segments for more accurate timing:
- *S: block pulled as goron > ledge boost > blow up wall > upstairs > control = 30.25
- *S: control > door > control = 20.69
- *S: control > wiz = 21.09 (walked to door)
- HE: exit fire arrow > enter eeno = 14.83
- S: exit fire arrow > melt ice + ramp jump > enter eeno = 32.43 (a bit sloppy, good enough for estimate)
- 41.26 + 14.83 = 56.09
- 72.03 + 32.43 = 104.46
- 104.46 - 56.09 = 48.37 (time hookshot saves in snowhead)
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- *Entering Great Bay:
- HE: ct owl > boost into gb > shield as goron = 34.52 [1]
- S: exit milk road on epona > hop gb fence > off epona > shield as goron = 27.28 [1]
- *PF:
- HE: entrance of inner pf > spike bounce off post > enter door above + shoot hive = 22.38
- HE: hive cs > hook chest = 6 (used JP recording, shiba's PB)
- S: entrance of inner pf > spike bounce off post > human + enter door > shoot hive = 20.5
- S: hive cs > hook chest = 2.75
- *Entering Graveyard/Aliens:
- HE: exit milk road on epona > enter canyon area = 31.41 (kind of laggy on gcn)
- S: exit wct into tf > roll into canyon area + call epona + climb epona = 37.79 (didn't go for any bushes, wasted frames on epona)
- HE: exit wct into tf > roll into milk road > roll into ranch + shield = 24.50
- S: milk road owl > ranch + shield = 9.14
- (NOTE: stuff in WCT cancels in both routes, including movement from ct owl > wct > entering tf from wct)
- *Powder Keg/Goron Race:
- HE: place keg > slash to edge > void (JP watches cs) > turn goron, enter lz = 13:56.49 to 14:24.22 = 27.73 (using atz's bug limit run)
- HE: mv owl > enter goron racetrack = 35:21.53 to 35:45.25 = 22.72 (using shiba's run)
- S: place keg > enter goron racetrack = 7:28.69 to 7:51.23 = 22.54 (using atz's run)
- S: exit goron race after race > enter goron village lz = 9:32.13 to 9:48.80 = 16.67 (using atz's run)
- ** Woodfall cancels in both routes
- ** entering well breaks even for now, later account for optimal standard route that does gibdo mask after aliens (saves some movement)
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- *Standard hits milk road owl while HE does not:
- HE: enter milk road as goron > roll to boulder + shield = 6.52
- S: enter milk road as goron > owl > roll to boulder + shield = 14.73
- 14.73 - 6.52 = 8.21
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- *Standard route optimally does gibdo mask after aliens while HE does it before aliens:
- HE: storms cave > pamela cs = 9.72
- HE: ikana owl > enter well = 13.41
- S: ikana owl > pamela cs = 5.17 (estimate)
- S: exit gibdo house > enter well (start as goron) = 16.22
- 16.22 + 5.17 = 21.39
- 9.72 + 13.41 = 23.13
- gibdo mask after aliens saves 1.74s in the standard route
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- Song of Soaring Count:
- S:
- 73
- 83
- 86
- 113
- 130
- 145
- 147
- 156
- 160
- 161 (from inside PF 2)
- 201
- 267
- total: 12
- HE:
- 75
- 85
- 88
- 100
- 123
- 145
- 149
- 155
- 162
- 168
- 169 (from inside PF 2)
- 210
- 274
- total: 13
- 1 song of soaring = 23
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- Estimation of alien routes for RTA:
- Assume hookshot early gets to milk road at 3:00
- Assume standard gets to milk road at 3:15
- HE has a loss of 12.5s (approximately) to aliens route compared to S.
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- Total S = 72.03 + 32.43 + 27.28 + 20.5 + 2.75 + 37.79 + 9.14 + 22.54 + 16.67 + 14.73 + 5.17 + 16.22 + 0 + 0 (soar + aliens) = 277.25
- Total HE = 41.26 + 14.83 + 34.52 + 22.38 + 6 + 31.41 + 24.50 + 27.73 + 22.72 + 6.52 + 9.72 + 13.41 + 23 + 12.5 (soar + aliens) = 290.5
- 290.5 - 277.25 = 13.25
- HE is about 13.25s slower than S without accounting for the fact that HE might need to SoDT an extra time in STT, which would cost an additional 12.5s for a total of 13.25 + 12.5 = 25.75s.
- If we made the assumption that the aliens both got to milk road at the same time (only happens if standard route is unoptimized), then HE would only be (13.25 - 12.5 = .75) .75s slower than S. If HE has to SoDT twice in STT, then HE would be about 13.25s slower than S because the extra SoDT takes 12.5s. [The reason HE would have to SoDT twice in STT is because Woodfall was done during the aliens segment so it might not turn Day 3 soon enough.]
- Not only is the hookshot early route slower, but it is likely more inconsistent as scarecrow skip in snowhead is difficult to optimize.
- It is also worth noting that in theory the standard route could have an aliens segment optimized enough to arrive at milk road at 3:25 (10 in-game minutes later than in the comparison above) which would result in an additional 7.5s saved over the hookshot early route.
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