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Glitchless Any%: Hookshot Early/Standard Route Comparison

May 25th, 2016
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  1. Glitchless Any%: Hookshot Early vs Standard Route Comparison:
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  3. ** Routes are the same up to lullaby
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  5. ** Hookshot Early Route skips Milk Road owl because goron roll to Ranch from Clock Town to waste igt, account for this later
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  7. *** estimate time lost to alien routes under different scenarios at the end
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  9. **** Do a song of soaring count at the end to account for soars
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  11. --------------------------------------------------------------
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  13. *Snowhead Temple:
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  15. HE: block pulled as goron > small key > scarecrow skip > enter fire arrow = 10.13 + 31.13 = 41.26 (tatakiwaru setup, decently fast)
  16. S: block pulled as goron > small ket as human > boost onto ledge > puzzle > enter fire arrow = 30.25 + 20.69 + 21.09 = 72.03
  17.  
  18. **** Splitting into segments for more accurate timing:
  19. *S: block pulled as goron > ledge boost > blow up wall > upstairs > control = 30.25
  20. *S: control > door > control = 20.69
  21. *S: control > wiz = 21.09 (walked to door)
  22.  
  23.  
  24. HE: exit fire arrow > enter eeno = 14.83
  25. S: exit fire arrow > melt ice + ramp jump > enter eeno = 32.43 (a bit sloppy, good enough for estimate)
  26.  
  27. 41.26 + 14.83 = 56.09
  28. 72.03 + 32.43 = 104.46
  29.  
  30. 104.46 - 56.09 = 48.37 (time hookshot saves in snowhead)
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  32. --------------------------------------------------------------
  33.  
  34. *Entering Great Bay:
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  36. HE: ct owl > boost into gb > shield as goron = 34.52 [1]
  37. S: exit milk road on epona > hop gb fence > off epona > shield as goron = 27.28 [1]
  38.  
  39. *PF:
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  41. HE: entrance of inner pf > spike bounce off post > enter door above + shoot hive = 22.38
  42. HE: hive cs > hook chest = 6 (used JP recording, shiba's PB)
  43. S: entrance of inner pf > spike bounce off post > human + enter door > shoot hive = 20.5
  44. S: hive cs > hook chest = 2.75
  45.  
  46. *Entering Graveyard/Aliens:
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  48. HE: exit milk road on epona > enter canyon area = 31.41 (kind of laggy on gcn)
  49. S: exit wct into tf > roll into canyon area + call epona + climb epona = 37.79 (didn't go for any bushes, wasted frames on epona)
  50.  
  51. HE: exit wct into tf > roll into milk road > roll into ranch + shield = 24.50
  52. S: milk road owl > ranch + shield = 9.14
  53.  
  54. (NOTE: stuff in WCT cancels in both routes, including movement from ct owl > wct > entering tf from wct)
  55.  
  56. *Powder Keg/Goron Race:
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  58. HE: place keg > slash to edge > void (JP watches cs) > turn goron, enter lz = 13:56.49 to 14:24.22 = 27.73 (using atz's bug limit run)
  59. HE: mv owl > enter goron racetrack = 35:21.53 to 35:45.25 = 22.72 (using shiba's run)
  60. S: place keg > enter goron racetrack = 7:28.69 to 7:51.23 = 22.54 (using atz's run)
  61. S: exit goron race after race > enter goron village lz = 9:32.13 to 9:48.80 = 16.67 (using atz's run)
  62.  
  63. ** Woodfall cancels in both routes
  64. ** entering well breaks even for now, later account for optimal standard route that does gibdo mask after aliens (saves some movement)
  65.  
  66. ------
  67.  
  68. *Standard hits milk road owl while HE does not:
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  70. HE: enter milk road as goron > roll to boulder + shield = 6.52
  71. S: enter milk road as goron > owl > roll to boulder + shield = 14.73
  72.  
  73. 14.73 - 6.52 = 8.21
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  75. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  76.  
  77. *Standard route optimally does gibdo mask after aliens while HE does it before aliens:
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  79. HE: storms cave > pamela cs = 9.72
  80. HE: ikana owl > enter well = 13.41
  81. S: ikana owl > pamela cs = 5.17 (estimate)
  82. S: exit gibdo house > enter well (start as goron) = 16.22
  83.  
  84. 16.22 + 5.17 = 21.39
  85. 9.72 + 13.41 = 23.13
  86.  
  87. gibdo mask after aliens saves 1.74s in the standard route
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  89. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  90.  
  91. Song of Soaring Count:
  92.  
  93. S:
  94. 73
  95. 83
  96. 86
  97. 113
  98. 130
  99. 145
  100. 147
  101. 156
  102. 160
  103. 161 (from inside PF 2)
  104. 201
  105. 267
  106.  
  107. total: 12
  108.  
  109. HE:
  110. 75
  111. 85
  112. 88
  113. 100
  114. 123
  115. 145
  116. 149
  117. 155
  118. 162
  119. 168
  120. 169 (from inside PF 2)
  121. 210
  122. 274
  123.  
  124. total: 13
  125.  
  126. 1 song of soaring = 23
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  128. ------------------------------------------------
  129.  
  130. Estimation of alien routes for RTA:
  131.  
  132. Assume hookshot early gets to milk road at 3:00
  133. Assume standard gets to milk road at 3:15
  134.  
  135. HE has a loss of 12.5s (approximately) to aliens route compared to S.
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  137. ------------------------------------------------
  138.  
  139. Total S = 72.03 + 32.43 + 27.28 + 20.5 + 2.75 + 37.79 + 9.14 + 22.54 + 16.67 + 14.73 + 5.17 + 16.22 + 0 + 0 (soar + aliens) = 277.25
  140. Total HE = 41.26 + 14.83 + 34.52 + 22.38 + 6 + 31.41 + 24.50 + 27.73 + 22.72 + 6.52 + 9.72 + 13.41 + 23 + 12.5 (soar + aliens) = 290.5
  141.  
  142. 290.5 - 277.25 = 13.25
  143.  
  144. HE is about 13.25s slower than S without accounting for the fact that HE might need to SoDT an extra time in STT, which would cost an additional 12.5s for a total of 13.25 + 12.5 = 25.75s.
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  146. If we made the assumption that the aliens both got to milk road at the same time (only happens if standard route is unoptimized), then HE would only be (13.25 - 12.5 = .75) .75s slower than S. If HE has to SoDT twice in STT, then HE would be about 13.25s slower than S because the extra SoDT takes 12.5s. [The reason HE would have to SoDT twice in STT is because Woodfall was done during the aliens segment so it might not turn Day 3 soon enough.]
  147.  
  148. Not only is the hookshot early route slower, but it is likely more inconsistent as scarecrow skip in snowhead is difficult to optimize.
  149.  
  150. It is also worth noting that in theory the standard route could have an aliens segment optimized enough to arrive at milk road at 3:25 (10 in-game minutes later than in the comparison above) which would result in an additional 7.5s saved over the hookshot early route.
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