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- You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
- You and the stranger both like politics.
- Stranger: Greetings
- You: hi there
- You: Interested in politics eh? what be yer homeland
- Stranger: I'm from Chicago
- You: I'm from Delaware
- You: Used to be apathetic about politics
- You: then I learned that of the 535 members of congress, only 1 of them is willing to admin they're an atheist
- You: admit*
- Stranger: Interesting
- Stranger: My skype name is [deleted]
- Stranger: You have already succeeded in interesting me, congratulations
- You: hahaha
- You: this is my first time on this site, i consider that an accomplishment of some sort
- Stranger: It is
- You: lol
- Stranger: I spend a lot of time on this site
- Stranger: I am a prophet of the living God, so atheism is not an option for me
- Stranger: But I have no problem with atheists
- Stranger: Nor does God
- You: :)
- You: that's what i like to hear
- You: unfortunately, atheists are the most hated minority in the US :(
- Stranger: Misunderstood, I suppose
- You: indeed
- Stranger: Or perhaps many people have met a few smug ones
- You: i would imagine that is true, given that not many people are outspoken about being atheist
- You: accordingly, those who are willing to talk about being atheists aren't shy about it at all
- You: and i can see how that could lead to smugness of sorts
- Stranger: It is easy for the bright to become easily over-impressed with their own intelligence
- You: definitely
- Stranger: Whereas those of who know His power are amazed and somewhat repulsed by their pretensions
- You: ouch :-/
- Stranger: Men are children
- You: when you say you know of His power and are amazed, I can go right back to your "it is easy for the bright to become easily over-impressed with their own intelligence"
- Stranger: Yes, you can say that because you believe I have fooled myself into believing in Him
- Stranger: But I tell you that He has proved Himself to me a thousand times over
- You: hmm
- You: interesting
- Stranger: I am special, understand
- Stranger: He does not prove Himself to most people
- Stranger: Most are called to be patient
- Stranger: But I am His chosen and called prophet
- Stranger: I speak for Him on Earth, and there are privileges and responsibilities afforded to me
- You: does he speak to you?
- Stranger: Yes
- You: I wish I had a voice in my head
- You: that's not meant to be an insult
- Stranger: Wise men used to aspire to a voice in their head
- Stranger: Philosophers
- You: :)
- Stranger: Thousands of years ago
- You: my minor in philosophy has done me well
- Stranger: Shamans still appreciate them
- You: can you enlighten me about Shamans at all?
- Stranger: Shamans are, like me, called spiritual leaders of their people
- Stranger: They act as conduits between heaven and Earth
- Stranger: Using their connections to heal and provide information
- You: interesting
- Stranger: One does not choose to be a shaman
- Stranger: It is always something one is called to by a crisis
- Stranger: One must become deathly ill and face the limits of human imagination
- Stranger: And survive
- Stranger: And come back
- Stranger: And learn
- You: there's an alternative
- You: at least in my opinion
- You: called an 'ego-death'
- Stranger: That is true
- Stranger: I have experienced several ego-deaths, before my calling
- You: which Shamans can have as well correct?
- Stranger: Yes
- You: i have only had a single ego-death
- Stranger: Tell me about that
- You: okay
- You: before I start, i just want to say that this was via a powerful hallucinogenic
- Stranger: I assumed
- You: :)
- You: Ever hear of DMT?
- Stranger: Yes
- Stranger: I have shamanic aspirations; all psychedelic substances are on my agenda for consumption
- You: :)
- Stranger: Remember my skype
- Stranger: [deleted]
- You: Let me start by saying that most things you hear about DMT are true
- You: haha alright
- You: I'll preface this by saying that the only other drugs I had taken prior to DMT were marijuana, cocaine, salvia, and mushrooms
- You: hadnt done lsd or anything so i wasnt sure what to expect
- You: anyway, our method of ingestion was simply
- You: a decent amount of DMT sprinkled over a healthy bowl of weed
- You: smoked out of a bong
- You: assuming you've smoked weed before?
- Stranger: Yes
- You: good ;)
- You: anyway
- You: I torched the entire bowl in one hit
- You: and immediately felt the effects
- You: after about 3 seconds, i had the urge to recline in the Lazy boy i was in
- You: and as i was putting the bong down,
- You: i saw 4 entities looking at me
- You: each holding a bong
- You: basically offering it to me
- You: like saying, hey SMOKE THIS SHIT
- You: it was symmetrical to in a sense
- You: too*
- Stranger: Were the entities you?
- You: No
- You: definitely not
- Stranger: Were the bongs identical?
- You: yes
- You: they were all identical
- Stranger: What color?
- You: let me think
- You: this was quite some time ago
- You: about a year, actually
- You: very hard to remember
- Stranger: I was called by God about a year ago
- You: since it's all kind of like a dream
- You: anywho
- You: there were a lot of intense visuals after that
- You: very geometric
- You: outrageously vibrant colors
- Stranger: Nice choice of words
- You: thanks
- You: trying to remember other details
- Stranger: Let them come to you
- You: saw more entities towards the end of my trip
- You: trying to remember if there was anything before them that I'm forgetting
- Stranger: Did you hear anything?
- You: not really
- You: and it's not like the entities were talking to me
- You: i could kind of feel their thoughts
- You: without them speaking
- You: telepathically speaking to me, if you will
- Stranger: I will
- You: so towards the end of the trip, i see these four alien like guys looking down on me
- You: i think i'm really tense at this point
- You: because A, i've kinda forgotten to breath, and my heart is racing
- You: so i cool down and take a few breaths and relax
- You: and i'm mad chill at that point
- You: and at some point
- You: the alien dudes start saying
- You: dude, just stop doing everything and listen to us
- You: we're gonna show you the world
- Stranger: Yes
- You: and finally at some point I exhale and just cave in to their demands
- You: and I go back to the crazy visuals
- You: trying to think of a good way to describe this
- You: bear with me
- You: bare? idk
- Stranger: I'm here
- You: it feels as though time and space are interconnected
- You: almost like time and light is another dimension
- You: feel free to keep tying to interupt me
- You: gives me time to think and remember :)
- You: but basically
- You: at some point I come to this realization and just completely let myself go
- You: and I feel the four alien dudes intertwine with my body
- You: and I feel a million more times relaxed than before
- You: that make any sense? lol
- Stranger: Yes
- You: definitely an eye opener nonetheless
- You: hard to explain but I kinda had a new appreciation for life
- You: I still take things for granted, as does everyone, but I reflect on everything a lot more
- Stranger: Nice
- You: Most definitely the best experience I've ever had with any drug
- You: and I smoke weed on a daily basis, lol
- Stranger: As one should
- You: :)
- You: any questions?
- You: im trying to remember more details
- You: but DMT is the same stuff that makes you dream, hence it's all a blur
- Stranger: I receive many visions from God in my dreams
- Stranger: And have trouble remembering them, of course
- You: yea
- You: are you lucid during these visions?
- Stranger: Something like that
- Stranger: There are levels of lucidity
- Stranger: And I have multiple personalities with which to be lucid
- You: can you elaborate?
- Stranger: Which part is unclear?
- You: well
- You: my understanding of a lucid dream
- You: is one where I realize that I am dreaming
- You: and hence, I become in control of my dream
- You: God, in a sense
- You: I can do whatever and build whatever
- You: so I'm a bit confused as to what you mean by 'different levels and personalities' to with which be lucid
- Stranger: When I realize that I am dreaming, I sit back and observe the situation and try to grasp what is being taught to me and how it is being demonstrated
- Stranger: I do not attempt to control the dream
- Stranger: Unless it is a sex dream
- You: When I realize that I am dreaming, I stand up and overturn my desk if I'm being taught ;)
- You: although i can never tell if I'm in a highschool or college classroom
- Stranger: Indeed
- Stranger: I'm often a professor in my dreams
- Stranger: An extension of my work as a prophet here and my work as a shaman on other levels
- You: is being a 'prophet' your job or is there another name for it?
- You: in the real world, not your dreams, that is
- Stranger: In the real world, prophet is the best word to name my job
- You: Do Tarot cards interest you?
- Stranger: Yes
- Stranger: They are a method for communicating with the divine
- Stranger: But, then, so is everything else
- You: how so?
- Stranger: Jesus noted that no two sparrows fall without our Father being aware of it
- Stranger: He is here, watching and understanding us
- You: debatable
- You: sorry :P
- Stranger: Again: I have no choice as to my understanding of His presence
- Stranger: You do, and I respect that
- You: Sorry, it's weird that I feel obligated to be respectful when it comes to stating my opinion on God
- Stranger: I am a prophet on the same order as, say, Moses or Abraham
- Stranger: It is normal and righteous of you to feel a respect for me
- You: not to burst your bubble, but it's not just you
- You: i feel that way about everyone
- You: Some people take religion extremely seriously, hence us atheists need to tread carefully
- You: example, had I been born in the bible belt and been an atheist at 15, there's a decent chance my family would have disowned me if I spoke out against my family's god
- You: thankfully though, my parents respected my opinion enough
- Stranger: I have no religion
- You: are you a prophet for a specific religion
- You: i pressed enter
- You: just so you could see what i was typing
- You: preanswered my question! you must be a prophet! :P
- Stranger: I am His prophet, He is not "my" God
- Stranger: He owns me, not the other way around
- You: hmm
- Stranger: He may direct me to speak to members of any faith He pleases
- Stranger: And I will
- You: I like you better than religious folk :)
- Stranger: You are perceptive
- You: Since you have no religion, what do you think of the other prophets?
- Stranger: It is not for me to speak against God's anointed
- You: you don't need to speak "against" them
- Stranger: I aspire to the glory of, say, Elijah
- Stranger: Who did not taste death but was carried into heaven on a chariot
- You: interesting perspective
- Stranger: I have a great deal of respect for Joseph Smith, who founded the church of Mormon
- Stranger: He was a legitimate prophet, even if his church is today less than my ideal
- You: what makes him legit?
- Stranger: God
- You: ..
- You: Obviously you can see why I would need a bit more than that..
- Stranger: Obviously you should be able to understand why there is no more than that
- Stranger: IF God is real, it follows that HE is what makes ANY prophet legitimate
- You: And if he isn't real, as is my belief, then he can't make any prophet legitimate because he doesn't exist
- Stranger: Obviously
- You: Soo what makes you or him more a prophet
- You: than say
- You: a man who believes in the Flying Spaghetti Monster deity, who is his God
- You: who is the Flying Spaghetti Monster's prophet
- You: he claims it, I can't disprove it
- You: what makes him legit?
- Stranger: The Earth orbits the sun and the sun orbits the black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy. That black hole orbits an intergalactic axis. The center of that axis rotates a still grander level of organization. God, our Father, is the author and creator of all of it at every level in every dimension.
- Stranger: We are His beloved children
- Stranger: There are indeed aliens, and they can reach out through space and time through His power and communicate with us when we use certain psychedelic drugs
- You: interesting perspective
- You: that would be awesome if we could communicate with aliens when we were tripping
- You: it'd be cool if they had to be tripping on some crazy substance on their planet or whatever they live on as well
- You: or if it had to be DMT specifically lol
- Stranger: That's a very complicated subject
- You: in theory, yea
- You: unless God has specifically mentioned this to you, in which case I am most definitely interested in hearing more
- Stranger: He just did
- You: given my experiences
- Stranger: But He is not inclined to say more on the subject right now
- You: Ahh
- You: what did he say to you?
- Stranger: What I forwarded to you
- You: gotcha
- Stranger: Do you know who Jesus is?
- You: I have some understanding of the Jesus figure that is quite popular today
- Stranger: God decided that He wanted to understand us better
- Stranger: So He was born to a woman and lived a normal human life and then He began to minister for three years
- Stranger: He was killed
- Stranger: He died
- Stranger: He resurrected three days later
- Stranger: Today He reigns at the right hand of our Father in Heaven
- Stranger: And one day, after I die, He will return to Earth and rule
- You: Must it be after you die?
- Stranger: After I die, yes, but not before everyone living today dies
- Stranger: It is possible that you will live to see it
- You: how old are you? lol
- Stranger: 23
- Stranger: This message is as important for you to hear as what I said about the aliens before
- Stranger: God wants you to know everything, but you must learn things in their proper context and order
- You: interesting, i was born in 88 as well
- You: interesting that we should learn about these alien things at around the same time :)
- You: I feel like we're the only 2 people on earth who know this
- You: if it is indeed true
- Stranger: He brought you to me for a reason
- You: in your opinion
- You: could all be a gigantic coincidence
- You: although I'm certainly happy with how this conversation has gone
- Stranger: You are perceptive
- You: I want to say something to you that may or may not offend you
- You: but I've been holding it in
- Stranger: Go on
- You: I think you're crazy
- Stranger: Understandable
- You: Yet despite that I want to keep talking to you haha
- Stranger: Of course
- You: It's just an interesting perspective
- You: because anytime you refer to God, I think of you
- You: not that you are a God in a sense
- You: but rather, these are your own individual thoughts
- You: hence I take them as your perspective
- Stranger: It is true that I am an imperfect vessel
- Stranger: If I retain my humility I remain most useful to Him
- You: Do you think that ages ago, people could live for hundreds of years?
- Stranger: People can live for hundreds of years today, if they lived properly
- You: lol
- Stranger: The issue is miracles, friend
- Stranger: Either you believe in miracles or you do not
- You: fair enough, i can see your perspective
- You: is God infinite?
- Stranger: Define the question
- Stranger: Earth is not worth living on for hundreds of years today; it is better to put in one's decades and then proceed to heaven
- Stranger: In times past, Earth was more paradisical and one could take one's time and enjoy it for centuries
- You: instead of blathering on about how i think that time is a dimension
- You: ill cut to the chase
- You: who created God?
- You: or has he existed infinitely?
- You: which seems to be the excuse for most religious folk
- Stranger: In the sense that God was created He was created by His parent(s)
- Stranger: Similarly to how He created us, His beloved children
- You: that whole virgin birth story makes my head want to explode, btw
- Stranger: The issue is profoundly complicated, human language does not lend itself to accurate talk of it
- You: surely you can understand why I would think that's just a cop out
- You: keep coming back to miracles :-/
- Stranger: The virgin birth was an accommodation for Mary, as well as a mark of Jesus' singular status
- Stranger: Mary was visited by angels from a young age
- Stranger: Even back in that day, that was the mark of a crazy person
- Stranger: God makes up for the trials He puts us through
- Stranger: In her case, she was blessed with a miraculous birth
- Stranger: A virgin birth was proof to her that she was not crazy
- You: Surely you can see it from my perspective
- Stranger: I can try
- Stranger: And I can remember
- Stranger: And God whispers in my ear
- You: as an atheist
- You: I do not believe in the virgin birth, in any God, or in any miracles
- You: i believe in coincidences
- You: I need to see proof
- You: you have seen proof
- You: you see proof all the time
- You: you hear proof
- You: I don't get proof and I don't think I ever will
- You: I'd imagine you understand my doubts?
- Stranger: Yes
- Stranger: What are the odds that you would find me here on omegle of all places?
- You: I'd say about 1 in 21,485
- You: or, 1 in however many people have politics as an interest :)
- Stranger: You said this is your first time on Omegle, perhaps you are unaware of the number of trolls
- You: you could still be a troll
- Stranger: I sit in a den of thieves waiting for the honest man
- You: you could just be like, haha I was just kidding about everything
- You: and that would be the ultimate, dedicated troll
- Stranger: I lost all my friends after my call
- Stranger: Because they came to believe that I have become an ultimate, dedicated troll
- You: in real life
- You: that's sad :(
- You: not that he spoke to you, but rather you lost so many friends
- Stranger: It happens
- You: not often
- Stranger: I will have better friends in time, ones who love me more sincerely
- You: Do you have a paying job? if you dont mind me asking
- Stranger: That is part of why I sit on omegle: to collect pen pals and, best case scenario, friends that I may draw towards me
- Stranger: God pays me
- You: Do you have a job that pays with a currency?
- Stranger: God pays me with human currency
- Stranger: So that I may shop in human markets
- Stranger: U.S. dollars, in point of fact
- You: God pays you with US Dollars?
- Stranger: Finally a miracle has your interest
- You: I wouldnt call it a miracle
- You: unfortunately it happens all of the time, no offense
- Stranger: Fair enough
- Stranger: God doesn't call it a miracle either, interestingly
- You: to elaborate.. I don't think all prophets are true prophets
- Stranger: He just told me that
- You: What say you of other prophets who receive money?
- You: personally, I am not a fan
- You: you havent told me how God gives you this money, so I am not including you in that judgement
- Stranger: It is important to lay up one's treasures in heaven
- Stranger: He has made me rich on Earth, but my true treasure is in heaven
- You: I'm sorry but that quote just makes me want to look up one prophet I am familiar with
- Stranger: Jesus?
- You: haha no, unfortunately
- You: it was a prophet from the movie Religulous
- You: it was basically some guy claiming to be God, and people gave him a ton of money for it
- You: from an atheists perspective, you can understand why I wouldn't be a fan of any prophet taking money from other people in the name of their God
- Stranger: I don't ask for or receive money from humans
- You: I never said you did
- You: hence why I said I excluded you from my judgement of prophets that are made rich by 'God'
- You: because I still don't know how God has made you rich
- You: [deleted] right? in case we get disconnected
- Stranger: Yes
- Stranger: If we become close we can talk about it
- You: fair enough
- You: I find your story fascinating
- You: but ultimately, your story (in my humble opinion) not God's
- Stranger: It is of course my story
- You: by your story
- You: I should clarify that I mean your creation, not Gods
- Stranger: It is also my creation
- You: ...
- Stranger: I believe what you wish to reiterate is that "he is not real"
- You: not necessarily that he is not real
- You: but rather
- You: I am under the impression that he is not real
- You: I'm an agnostic atheist
- You: I don't know for a fact whether He does or does not exist
- Stranger: Okay
- You: So when I say your story, I don't mean that it is both yours and his story
- You: So after God spoke to you
- You: and your friends left you
- You: what happened with your family?
- Stranger: Their faith was tested
- Stranger: And eventually vindicated
- Stranger: Jesus noted that no prophet is welcome on his own hometurf
- Stranger: It is difficult for the people who knew me before my call to relate to me now, because they have a hard time understanding my connection with the divine
- Stranger: It is the inverse situation of a person becoming President, where suddenly he can only trust who he has always known
- Stranger: Instead, I meet new people and learn to trust them over time as they know me from the beginning as I am
- You: I want to dig up a quote, but I would imagine you know it
- You: He also said something along the lines of never turning your back on a family member
- Stranger: Yes
- You: Now I'm interested in the interpretation of the bible
- You: which I would imagine is like every other religious person I know
- You: in your interpretation*
- Stranger: No
- Stranger: I have a mystical understanding of the Bible
- Stranger: I read it and can perceive deeper levels of meaning not apparent or available to others
- You: mhmm
- You: so what say you of the atrocities?
- You: or the hypocrisies?
- Stranger: Do you have some in mind?
- You: plenty
- You: more time than we have, since I have to work in 12 hours
- You: lol
- Stranger: It seems like there will be more conversations
- You: Perhaps
- You: I don't like how in the Bible God kills roughly over two million people
- You: whereas Satan kills around 10
- You: and will accept me in the afterlife no matter what I have done
- Stranger: It helps to understand that God does not see death as a bad thing to do to someone
- Stranger: It is sometimes useful as instructive to those left behind
- You: clearly we have different definitions of the term God
- You: I was under the impression that God was benevolent
- Stranger: Yes
- Stranger: Death is not a bad thing
- You: I agree
- You: Murder is, however.
- Stranger: God cannot murder
- Stranger: He is entitled to call home whomever He wishes at the timing and circumstances of His choosing
- Stranger: No one has ever died and regretted it
- You: if god cannot murder, as you claim
- You: then what happened at Sodom and gomorrah
- Stranger: A lesson in hospitality
- Stranger: I am gay, if I haven't mentioned that before
- You: you hadn't, continue
- You: unless that was it?
- Stranger: It was
- Stranger: But, the men of those towns were killed as a lesson to those left behind on the consequences of bad manners
- You: if they were killed
- You: who killed them?
- Stranger: God
- You: yet it's not murder in your opinion.. this is one of those times where my head wants to explode
- Stranger: Murder is a word used to describe a specific legal crime
- Stranger: God wrote the universe, He is entitled to call home whomever He wishes whenever He wishes for whatever reason He wishes
- Stranger: It is a great honor and privilege to be called home
- You: anddd we're back to the technicalities
- Stranger: Its not a technicality
- You: well principles, then
- You: phone call, one sec
- Stranger: Take your time
- You: speakerphone
- You: this takes priority
- Stranger: There are two principle reasons why it is said that killing a man is wrong (outside of God's commandment to not do so): killing someone ends his life, and killing someone harms the ones who loved him and will now miss him
- Stranger: The first assumption is false; death is not the end but the beginning of life
- Stranger: The second fact is part of what makes life life; people die, it happens
- You: back, sorry
- Stranger: Nothing to be sorry about
- You: I do apologize too much.
- You: in your opinion the first assumption is false
- You: personally, i think that the afterlife is the same thing as pre-birth
- You: millions of years of nothingness
- Stranger: You cannot remember pre-birth
- Stranger: But it was actually a good time for you
- You: I don't think it would be too much fun in my fathers testicles
- You: :P
- Stranger: Only half of your genetic material was lodged there
- You: true
- You: but I believe that I didn't exist before birth
- You: hence remembering it is impossible
- Stranger: Are you familiar with Plato's allegory of the cave?
- You: no i am not
- Stranger: Its worth looking up; the basic idea is that there is a distinction between shadows and the object that causes the shadow
- Stranger: Your life on Earth is a shadow cast by an object and that object is your soul in Heaven
- You: interesting idea
- You: that second bit is your idea, not plato's correct?
- Stranger: The second bit is a revelation
- You: interesting
- You: As a homosexual, what are your thoughts on the bible and gay marriage?
- You: Personally, this is one of those subjects that makes me hate the presence of religion in politics
- Stranger: "Homosexual" sounds like a condition
- You: yet it's just as politically correct as gay, right?
- Stranger: Its always an individual judgment
- Stranger: I prefer gay or queer
- You: really? queer is the most derogatory of the 3, imo
- You: I guess that's because of the 3, that one is the most "insulting"
- You: IMO, that is
- You: In my opinion as a straight guy, that is
- Your conversational partner has disconnected.
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