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Well, it's painfully obvious to everyone

that the Tsarnaev brothers
were part of a larger conspiracy.

Even Dubya used the "C" word.

There might have been a... organized plot.

But I was deeply concerned that this could have been another c--...

organized, highly-organized attack
on the country.

But "C" doesn't just stand
for "conspiracy;"

it also stands for CIA.

And CIA has their fingerprints
all over the Boston Marathon bombing.

Now, when it first happened,
we were very concerned,

because it was being used to forward
a domestic agenda of a police state.

Immediately we were told
that it was right-wing terrorists.

We were told that it was a new 9/11,

and immediately we at InfoWars
were looking for signs

of previous false-flag terrorist attacks:

in other words, a bomb drill;

something that is taking place
that is exactly the way the attack was,

at exactly the same time,
exactly the same place.

And that's why we shut down
the press conference:

because they didn't want to answer
Dan Benondi's direct question

about, "Was there a bomb drill
going on there?"

So clearly, this wasn't just a crime.

And we've had people criticize us,

because they want to fall into
the official narrative,

and it's somehow unpatriotic to look
to see if justice is being done.

Well, you know, justice means not only

that you don't frame the wrong people
for something,

but it also means that the guilty are found and prosecuted,

and that means all of the guilty:
not just a couple of people.

If they were involved in the bombing,
we want to know who was behind them.

And it's more than just a mysterious
"Uncle Misha."

There's a much larger context here.

Not only is there an agenda
to create a domestic police state,

there's also an international
agenda, perhaps,

that may have some kind of a deal
being worked in the background

for the US to have clearance
to go after Syria

while Russia has clearance to go after
some Muslim terrorists in Chechnya.

And here to give us a broader
background on that is Sibel Edmonds.

Now, Sibel Edmonds is a former FBI
translator and whistleblower.

She had some key evidence in
the September 11th terrorist attacks,

and she was put under a gag order
by some judges,

and what she could say about it;

but she did put out
some key intelligence information

that is linked to developing
current events

about who was behind
the Tsarnaev brothers:

who was directing them.

Joining us now is Sibel Edmonds.

Sibel, thank you for joining us.

My pleasure, and thank you
for having me back.

I want to talk about Gladio Part B.

You're got a long series on
BoilingFrogsPost.com about that.

But I want to get, first,
to the breaking news about Uncle Ruslan.

Everybody's... it's all over
the news today and this weekend,

there's information breaking
about Uncle Ruslan.

What can you tell us about
his connections to this guy Graham Fuller,

the CIA, his father-in-law?

Tell us a little information
about Graham Fuller.

You've known about him
for quite some time,

and you've got a lot of information
on Graham Fuller.

Sure. Well, as we know, the uncle
-- the infamous uncle --

has been very vocal in putting
and packaging this message together

on the radicalization of
the Boston terror suspects.

He has been key. He has been featured, extensively and intensively,

on all the mainstream media:

CNN, non-stop of course; CBS...

Exactly. I though it was very interesting
that... I'm sorry to interrupt you...

but they talked to his mother,
his father, his aunt:

They're immediately saying
that he's set up.

We get interviews from some people who knew the younger brother, said,

"He wasn't really, kind of,
a hateful guy;

he was a real normal,
Western kind of guy."

But then Uncle Ruslan comes on,

and he's the only story
that gets out there

You just hear him over and over again.

He throws, basically,
his nephews under the bus,

and says these guys were lonesome,
they were radicalized,

they were hate-filled loners
who had no friends... all sort of...

But, I'm sorry: so, this is Uncle Ruslan.

Tell us about Uncle Ruslan's
connections with the CIA.

Well, right there, at that point,
people should have asked themselves:

why is it that the mainstream media
-- and the quasi-alternatives --

keep playing this guy?

Where did he pop out from?
This is really interesting, right?

And this is around the time
that nobody was talking about the CIA.

And I put the analysis out there;
we produced a video

-- this is about a week, ten days ago --

talking about that nobody's
mentioning the CIA;

everybody's putting the focus
and spotlight on the FBI.

Well, as we started preparing that,
lo and behold!

The news came out that the brothers,
the suspects,

were attending Jamestown Foundation
conference overseas,

over there, in that part of the world.

And Jamestown Foundation
is the extension of...

it's very closely related to the CIA,

and of course the mainstream media
did not at all cover this angle.

And then, about a couple of days later,

thanks to the real
alternative media sources,

the news came out that the infamous uncle,
mainstream media's darling,

Washington Post 's
and New York Times' darling guy,

happened to be...

A. He was married to
[sic: the daughter of]

a very infamous, a very shady
CIA operative.

His name is Graham Fuller,

and I'm gonna get into Graham Fuller
in a second.

So this man, the uncle
of the Boston terror suspects,

he was married to one of
the top CIA operatives in that region,

Central Asia and Caucasus: Graham Fuller.

Not only that, in 1990s this guy,
this uncle,

he lived with this CIA guy
in his house in Maryland

for almost one year, OK?

This news came out,
and nobody covered it;

and a couple of quasi-alternative...
they put a spin on it, and they said...

because they interviewed this guy,
this infamous guy Graham Fuller,

and Graham Fuller said,

"Well, yes: he was married
to my daughter,

but it's ridiculous for people
to link any of this to the CIA."

Well, of course this alternative
-- quasi-alternative --

they put a spin on the story;
they twisted it, and the headline said:

"Graham Fuller Denies
Any Connection to the CIA."

If you go and read the article, Graham Fuller confirmed that, yes,

he was this man's father-in-law.

And again, we will talk
about Graham Fuller in a second.

So, this came out, and also the fact
that the uncle

was also working for USAID,

which -- anybody who is awake -- knows

that, again, is another
operations field for the CIA.

when they want to get into some country,

and they always put some of their people together with USAID.

USAID and CIA, they have this joint partnership, OK?

Right, right.

Let's put it that way.

So, again: about ten days after we put the announcement on,

CIA emphasized that fact.

Now, all this information is coming out
only though the alternative media.

These are supported, documented:

even Graham Fuller, the CIA operative,

is saying, "Yes, I was his father-in-law."

I mean, this is really big.

I mean, when people
put these pieces together:

how this uncle was played, OK?

How he was placed under
this intense spotlight;

how he became the darling,
the representative...

and he's the first source talking about
the suspect's radicalization.

As you know, before that,
I mean, the people...

these suspects' friends from Boston,
they were saying they were very modern,

going to nightclubs, hanging out
in expensive Bimmers,

they were hanging out with Turks:

they were not hanging out
with the radicals;

then, bam!

Their biological uncle comes,
and he says that.

Well, of course, naive people
would right away say,

"Uh-huh, here, even their uncle says
they were radical Muslims;

so that must be true."

And of course, MSM played it.

On the other hand, when these connections are pouring out

-- again, thanks to the real
alternative media outlets --

there is nothing.

You don't see anything
in the mainstream media.

And this is why,
from the beginning, from weeks ago,

we started pounding the fact that the MO here,

with everything that we see on the ground,
and considering the region

-- Chechna,
the Central Asia/Caucasus region --

this carries CIA's MO,
not the FBI's.

And we've presented the...

both background and context
of why the CIA MO,

and why the CIA connection here.

Yeah, let's talk about that a little bit,

because it's pretty obvious when you look
at the lifestyle of these guys...

like you mentioned, they've got
expensive sports cars

even though the family is largely
on welfare here.

So, obviously they're getting money
from some extra source, OK?

Whether it's Islamic terrorists,
or whether it's the CIA:

obviously, they're not
lone-wolf guys, right?

But you've got the uncle:
as you just pointed out,

someone who has had
a history of working

for a CIA front corporation in the area;

and then you've got him married
to the daughter

of the CIA's top guy in the area.

-- I mean, he wasn't just CIA:

- No, no, no...
- Graham Fuller was very high in the CIA,

- David, and you know...
- and that was his area of specialty

was right there in that area.

Absolutely, David: you aced it there.
Because... you see,

people can't say, "Well, here it is:

Sibel Edmonds coming and talking
about Graham Fuller,

and saying she now knew
about this guy.

If you go to my document website,

where my case is totally narrated,
to JustACitizen.com,

and if they click on
"State Secrets Privilege Gallery,"

they will see a list of names
of top individuals

with their pictures there, OK?

They actually will see the pictures,

and then later they will get the articles
that named these individuals.

Because of the gag orders,
because of the State Secrets Privilege,

in 2007, I put this gallery of these more than a dozen individuals out there:

the key players, and the key FBI targets
-- the key FBI investigations targets --

between 1996 and 2002.

To give people the clue about
why the State Secrets Privilege,

why all the gag orders:

which all have to do with
the United States, and CIA...

-- and, to a certain degree, NATO --
...creating, training, arming,

radicalizing the Islamic factions
in Central Asia and Caucasus,

which also tied to 9/11 because,

as part of these operations
in Central Asia and Caucasus,

we continued working with Bin Laden
and Ayman Zawahiri.

this is... we are not talking about '80s,
mujahideen in Afghanistan:

we are talking about mid-1990s
all the way 'til 2002: February, 2002,

which actually covers
a certain period of time post-9/11, OK?

Right. And you figure very prominently
in the 9/11 investigations,

because you were working as
an FBI translator at the time,

you came across some key intelligence,

you had gags put on you...

and this is what you were saying when you were on the radio on Friday:

you said, over and over again: in the FBI,
you guys would intercept intelligence,

and somebody from the CIA
or the State Department would come in

and basically shut it up.

And the key part of this is that,
as you said,

the narrative is often told that,

"Hey, 9/11 happened
because of blowback;

9/11 happened because
we interjected ourselves,

in a very ham-fisted, clumsy way,

into foreign countries' internal affairs,

and we wind up interjecting ourselves
into every war;

we wind up making enemies
out of both sides,

and they come back,
and they pull some stunt like this.

But what you were seeing was people
who were actually being run

by the CIA and the State Department
as a front group.

And when somebody
like Rachel Maddow says

that,"We think that Obama
is the global head of al-Qaeda,"

It's like, "Yeah! I'll go with that."
(laughs)

All right. And I want
to also make this point:

that I worked for the FBI two days,
three days after 9/11.

However, I worked with
several FBI field offices,

not only with Washington Field Offices,

but my main area had to do
with Turkish and Turkic countries:

Turkic countries refer to
Central Asia and Caucasus, OK?

They speak variation of Turkish language.

My major field with the FBI had to do
with this investigation

that FBI started in 1996:

so some of the stuff that I was looking,
translating, analyzing,

going back, getting
verbatim translations on,

some of those occured
in 1997, 1998, 1999.

And we also had real-time
-- and this is after September 11 --

on this particular investigation
that George Bush shut down

- in February of 2002. But again...
- Just to clarify:

Let me clarify before we go any further:

your area of specialty was
the Turkish area and the Caucasus,

and that's exactly where
we're talking about with Chechnya.

Correct.

That is the Caucasus region of Russia.

So, where this is all
going back to right now,

with the Tsarnaev brothers and everyone:

that is exactly the area of specialty
where you were,

where you were translating documents
back in the mid-'90s?

Correct. And these documents originated from the investigations

-- which started around end of 1996.
-- Mm-hmm.

So basically, these operations for FBI

-- and this is domestic
counterintelligence --

the targets were not only foreign.

The targets were also US individuals

-- some of them in Congress,
many of them within the State Department,

some of them undercover
CIA operatives in that region --

they were also operating here,
in the United States.

And again, we will get to that
when we talk about Imam Fethullah Gülen.

And when I start talking about
Graham Fuller.

Graham Fuller was a CIA operative
that was part of this Operation Gladio

in Turkey, Central Asia, and Caucasus.

And in mid-1990s, he was a key figure

in CIA's radicalization and training,
arming, and also carrying out

some of the biggest terror attacks
within the borders of Russia.

- Mm-hmm.
- In that region.

So he is... we will talk about him,
and we will get into that;

and we will also talk about Gülen.

Mm-hmm. Now... exactly.
When we get into...

let's start talking about
Operation Gladio Part B.

Some of us know...
and Darrin McBreen did a great report

with a fellow who wrote
a book about Gladio.

He's a British fellow now living in Italy,
and it's very well-known in Italy,

because in the '70s,
there was a wave of terror.

Aldo Moro, the Italian Prime Minister, was killed.

You had everybody that was alive
at that time was hearing stuff about

"The Red Brigade this,
The Red Brigade that..."

As time went on, it was revealed that
these really were false-flag operations,

because the Communists
were gaining politically in the area,

and it was actually NATO
running false-flag operations

and blaming it on the Communists.

And, of course, then we were told
that Operation Gladio had been shut down.

But you have some other
information about that.

Tell us a little bit about that.

Sure. The information you just provided: absolutely.

And this is a documented...
and even now,

declassified documents from Italy
and even here in the United States says,

"Yes, we did that. We and NATO: We
carried out these false-flag operations."

However, they say
that these operations ended

with the fall of the Soviet Union, OK?

So, end of 1980s. 1991, it was dismantled:
that is the official narrative.

It is not correct.

While the cells that carried out
false flag operations

and terror cells in most part of Europe,
they shut down...

-- and that includes Italy --
...they left...

-- and this is the CIA and NATO --

they left one major cell
open and untouched:

and that is the cell in Turkey.

And again, if people, they go and look

at the history of Turkey
and Operation Gladio,

they will see that Turkey was
a prominent player.

-- Turkey is a NATO member, yes.
-- Oh yes, Mm-hmm.

OK: well, they, did not shut down
that particular cell

because of the incredible importance,
significance of this area:

Central Asia/Caucasus.

Look at Turkey: Muslim country.

These Central Asian countries, these
Caucasus regions? They are Muslims.

Turkey: they speak Turkish.

Well, 90 percent-plus of this region, Central Asia/Caucasus,

they speak Turkish languages, OK?
Different dialects of Turkish languages.

Also, you're looking at shared heritage.

So the Great Game was, we continue...

we keep alive and intensify one cell;
we shut down the rest...

-- and that cell was the Turkish cell --
...in order to go...

and this is against,
number one, Russia,

but this region also included
the region in China

that is referred to as Xinjiang:
Uyghuristan, East Turkestan:

these are various names people
refer to that area within China territory.

This area, they are Turkic, they are Turkish people, they are Muslims.

That's why they call them "Turkestan."
That's the other name for it.

So with this cell, NATO and CIA,
they went,

they pinpointed various
small Islamic factions...

-- this is right after the fall
of the Soviet Union, OK?

Chechnya; people... a faction
in Azerbaijan, in Kyrgyzstan --

and they started recruiting
and radicalizing them

in order to use them against Russia, OK?

So, this started in mid-1990s,
and it is still Operation Gladio.

In FBI, the investigation, they just...
FBI named it as Operation Gladio Plan B.

Now, another name can be the Phase Two:
Operation Gladio Phase Two.

And if you look at...
at least I can tell you this much:

until 2002, the biggest terrorist attacks
that occurred within Russian soil...

-- OK? Coming from individuals
from Dagestan or Chechnya --

they were completely directed,
armed, and orchestrated

by NATO and the United States, CIA.

And this is... I'm talking about
every single major attack up until 2002.

I've been out of the FBI
since April, May 2002.

So, until at least that point...

-- and this is, still, after 9/11, OK?
This is not before 9/11 --

...that's what we were doing.

And one of the individuals
involved in this, in orchestrating,

one of the main operatives with this,

was Mr. Graham Fuller.

And Graham Fuller: CIA operative
who was stationed in Turkey;

but, again, his main task:

he was part of the team from the CIA
that worked with NATO

in pinpointing, training, arming,
radicalizing

these factions in Central Asia
and Caucasus,

and bringing about
these terror incidents in the region.

Now, back in January,
on your website BoilingFrogsPost.com,

you recorded a four-hour series
on Operation Gladio Part B

-- with Steve Corbett. [sic]
-- James Corbett.

Everybody really needs to...
everybody really needs to see that.

It's really fascinating.
It's an amazing story.

Anybody that likes a good spy novel:

you know, truth is much stranger
than fiction.

But I want to play this brief clip where
you talk about Operation Gladio Part B.

...the Turkish paramilitary
Gladio operations in those countries...

...overseeing these thugs
and these operations:

these false terror,
false flag operations.

Not only in Turkey:
Central Asia, Caucasus, you know?

A lot of Chechen operations.

Now, again: going to the narrative

that this isn't just blowback
from angry Muslims,

but it's a larger, more calculated plot,

let's talk about this imam Gülen,
because I think that's really key.

When we see how this guy fit into Turkey,

and we see how he's brought back
and used by the CIA,

it really does put the lie
to this whole thing,

that this is radicalized Muslims that are
blowing back against our foreign policy.

Tell us a little bit about iman Gülen.

Yes. Imam Fethullah Gülen,
up until 1996, 1997,

he was this radical Islamic preacher, OK?

And not really high-level guy.

This guy doesn't even have
elementary-level education.

He was kicked out of school
by fourth grade,

so he didn't even get
high school diploma.

He was your typical preacher who would
basically preach sharia law,

and talk about why
secular government in Turkey

was not right for an Islamic,
Muslim nation,

that it should be thrown out
and people should have revolution

and replace the government...

-- and this is the Kemalist
Atatürk government

put in place since the
early 1990s [sic: 1900s] in Turkey --

and replace it with sharia laws, OK?

Now, initially the Turkish government
didn't take this guy very seriously.

As I said, he he was a low-level-guy;

but, he started actually creating
a semi-significant movement in Turkey,

actually getting some money,
raising some money,

and establishing some small madrasas
in Turkey, and send kids to...

the poor children who couldn't attend
regular school,

or the poor children who came from
a more radical Islamic background

could attend, OK?

Now, in 1996, Operation Gladio...

-- and this is, right now, in Turkey:
we are talking about Turkey--

...they decided that what
was happening within Turkey

with some of their factions within Gladio,

they have to be kicked out,
and they have to disappear.

So we have a major scandal taking place
in Turkey in 1996, early 1997,

referred to as a major...

-- this is like the Watergate scandal
in the United States --

- ...called "Susurluk," OK?
- Mm-hmm.

And during this time,
the Operation Gladio operatives...

-- and this is NATO and the US --

...they decided that this guy,
Fethullah Gülen,

would be fantastic as one of the fronts

in operations in Central Asia
and Caucasus, OK?

Because they saw that he was being
a bit successful in Turkey.

Meanwhile, the Turkish government...

-- and this is the secular,
military regime in Turkey --

...they indicted this guy,
Fethullah Gülen...

-- this mullah, this imam --

because of his radical views
and his advocation of this sharia law,

and they wanted to sentence him
to ten years in jail, OK?

Mm-hmm.

Now, what happened during this time:

while he's under this indictment,
lo and behold!

Imam Gülen, inside a Gulfstream,
takes off from Turkey

and lands here in Washington, DC:
United States.

So in 1998, they set him up... they...

"In a Gulfstream": in a Gulfstream jet
that's owned by the CIA, right?

Yes. That is one of the documents
and the facts

that came out during Susurluk
and after Susurluk investigations.

Of course, mainstream media
did not cover it.

-- in fact, mainstream media in the US
didn't cover any of this --

because Fethullah Gülen...

-- this mullah, this radical sharia guy --

- ...was our guy, OK?
- Mm-hmm.

And we needed him for the operations.

So he came to Washington, DC.

He was given a temporary visa.

He was given a lavish house, OK?

And he set up this NGO in
the United States...

-- this Islamic NGO --
...in 1998;

and started raising hundreds of millions
[of dollars] in the United States.

Now, again: think about
what I've been telling you

about FBI and our investigatons,

because these operations
in Central Asia/Caucasus

had actors here in the United States.

And that included Mr. Gülen
-- Fethullah Gülen, imam Gülen --

and also his handlers: CIA handlers.
And his main handler...

-- for Fethullah Gülen:
imam Gülen's main handler --

was no other than
Graham Fuller of the CIA.

Drumroll! Yeah.

He's supposed to be... is expert in Islam,

and with all the time he spent,
of course, in Turkey,

and leading some of the operations
-- terror operations --

in Central Asia/Caucasus:
he was Fethullah Gülen's handler.

People...
-- and this is a parenthesis here --

...people will say,
"What proof do you have for this?

Well, the Department of Homeland Security,

they wanted to kick out this guy,
imam Gülen, in mid-2000s: 2005, 2006.

They said he expired his visa,
and we want to kick him out.

And also, he had
some suspicious activities;

and, of course, FBI investigations
of Fethullah Gülen, right?

Mm-hmm.

Guess who stepped in at this point?

And people can go online,
go to Google...

or you can go to my website,
BoilingFrogsPost.com, and put a...

Let me guess: was it Graham Fuller?

He was one of the handful
of neocons and CIA operatives.

Graham Fuller went further:
he actually testified.

He put a letter saying that
US should value this guy:

he was one of our most important Islamic
-- moderate Islam --

partners in... et cetera, et cetera.

So, this is all documented.
You can see Graham Fuller's name.

You can see his letters on behalf
of Fethullah Gülen,

and another individual, for example,
who sponsored...

-- and he, also, is named in these
court documents that people can see --

is Mort Abramowitz, OK?

So basically, if you look
t Gülen's sponsors,

you are looking at people

like Mort Abramowitz,
Graham Fuller;

you're looking at Richard Perle:
you see, basically a lot of PNAC guys.

Well, the same guy were also
the top players, in one way or another,

with Operation Gladio Phase Two, OK?

So I'm gonna go back to Gülen
getting here, setting this NGO

.Between 1998, while he's in the US,

while his NGO is operating here
with hundreds of millions of dollars,

Fethullah Gülen opens over 350 madrasas.

-- these are radical Islamic schools
and mosques --

in Central Asia and Caucasus, OK?

While he is living here in the US,
through his NGO in the United States, OK?

And this, between the period
1998 'til 2005...

-- again, this is documented:

in fact, some of the more,
I guess, Russian allies

in terms of Central Asian countries,

they kicked out and they banned this man's
radical madrasas and mosques, OK?

And again, this guy's handlers

happen to be Mort Abramowitz,
Graham Fuller... OK?

And right now, currently,
in the United States,

Fethullah Gülen, imam Gülen's NGO,

- is worth more than $20 billion.
- Wow.

Nobody knows where their money's
coming from, OK?

Nobody. There have been...

and again, people can find
some European publications:

mainstream European publications.

In Holland, currently, in the Netherlands,
for the past three years,

Fethullen Gülen's movement has been
under investigations,

because they have some network
in Holland as well, OK?

They were kicked out of Russia.
Russia banned their schools.

They had it in Russian territory, OK?

So, again, this is public information.

This man has been living
in the United States since 1998

with operations that we are carrying out,

radicalizing, Islamicizing factions
withing Caucasus and Central Asia, OK?

His handler... -- even the US court
documents show -- ...happens to be

the same CIA guy now that we see
in connection with the Boston terror.

The Boston terror suspect happened
to have have ties with Chechnya

and this region, Central Asia
and Caucasus.

This is why from the beginning, from the initial terror incident stage,

I kept telling and putting this analysis
out there about CIA's MO.

Well, now we have
Graham Fuller facts coming out.

Mainstream media won't
be covering it, David.

Yeah. They won't. Because guess what?

These people, including
the State Department,

they dictate what
The New York Times prints, OK?

Oh, the ridiculous thing that you're seeing today,

what's breaking all over CNN and all the mainsream media,

is the search for Misha, OK? This...

first we're told that these are
lone wolf terrorists,

and of course, that doesn't really
jibe with anything:

There are so many holes in that story.

So now, they've got to find
the lone wolf radicalizer, Misha,

some fictional character.

And I guess this is the guy

that supplied the brothers
with the sports cars,

as well as radicalization.

But this... it just broke in the story
that Plotnikov...

-- the guy that basically
tied them to Misha --

he's no longer alive.

So you've got the stream of dead bodies

that are supposedly the people
who are turning this in.

But what you said: I want to just repeat
what you said here, which is really key:

because again, we're told
over and over again

that 9/11 was blowback
from bad foreign policy.

But what you saw in the '90s
is this guy, imam Gülen,

who is brought to the...

he's basically under indictment in Turkey
for being too radical.

He's flown to the US in a CIA Learjet,
and then this very guy, Graham Fuller,

who is the father-in-law of Uncle Ruslan,
gives this guy cover and protection

when Homeland Security and the FBI
want to deport him,

because they know he's radical.

Meanwhile, he comes up, turns up,
this guy with a fourth-grade education,

now has $20 billion of net worth
here in the US,

and he's somehow able to fund
over 350 radical madrasas

throughout Europe
and the Islamic countries:

and he's never left the US.

I mean, he's... all the different...

No, he hasn't set foot outside
the United States.

Right.

His entire financial centers,
his entire headquarters: he has...

right now, he has one major NGO
and several fork NGOs under that NGO.

His financial center is in Chicago.
He resides in Pennsylvania.

And again, this is public information.

People can go and put "net worth Fethullah Gülen NGO United States"

and they will see.
And it says $20+ billion, OK?

Right.

And nobody knows how this money
happens to be within this NGO.

And this is one of the main ways
CIA launders...

CIA launders, clean up, their operations.
Like the ones involving heroin:

- that money needs to be laundered, OK?
- Mm-hmm.

Financial institutions, some of them
are in this business with the CIA,

but another way is having NGOs like this,
because nobody's questioning this NGO

that is right now posing...

and if you go and look at the mainstream
media articles in the United States,

they call him a "moderate" Islamist.

You go to the rest
of the European countries,

and in Russia, and in Central Asia,

he's known as a major radical,
terrorist Islamist, OK?

Mm-hmm.

So, how they launder this money is, also,
through NGOs like this.

Because to this date,
nobody can source this money.

He says -- this is Fethullah Gülen --
he says these are donations

from people in Turkey
who really love his work.

Turkish government can't even raise
that much money in tax, OK?

Right, right.

And this guy has his $20 billion here,
net worth of the foundation,

is coming through Turkish
voluntary donations,

and people should just...

right now, things should be clicking
in people's heads.

Yeah, exactly. But $20 billion
is chicken-feed

when you're looking at
the international drug trade

- that's coming out of Afghanistan,
- Right.

that they're running there.

And it went from only 10 percent
to 90 percent of the world's trade

in heroin, and cocaine [sic],
and that sort of thing,

and so it's almost kind of like...

I look at this, it's almost like
the slave trade that we had, you know?

The British had this sweet deal goin'

where they would pick up the slaves
in one area; they would drop 'em off;

then pick up the sugar cane
and go to this place.

We've got... the CIA goes to Afghanistan,
they get all this drug money.

They can then use that
to fund all these black ops.

Then they can set up and run
these madrasas everywhere,

and then use that as justification

to scare us into surrendering
our civil liberties,

and then, as we talked about on Friday,
there's not even...

it's not even just a domestic agenda
that's there,

but there's also this international agenda,

that perhaps they're putting
some pressure on the Russians,

or making a deal with the Russians,

so that if the Russians support this,
that they can then say,

"All right, we'll give you some...
we'll give on this area,

and you guys can kind of back off
on your opposition to the war in Syria.

And we'll kind of give you ethical cover

for going against these
now-radical Chechens.

Now, here we are:
no Americans have ever heard

of anything going on in Chechnya,

although there's been a lot of strife
with the Russians.

And so now, we'll back off.

We won't criticize you
if you go against the Chechens,

but maybe you can kind of back off
and not oppose us in Syria.

Absolutely: excellent points you made.
Several excellent points you made, David.

And see, with Russia, that's one of the things
that people, when they...

especially people that are not familiar
with all the geopolitics,

they just look at the surface,
the face value, of, OK,

everything that goes on between Russia
and the United States,

or Central Asia/Caucasus and Russia:
they have to look at it broadly.

And they also have to get in to
the context and the history of the area

and what has been taking place,
not only in the past few weeks,

but for the last couple of decades.

That's when you start
getting a bigger picture.

For example, that's a possibility.

I'm very careful to emphasize
when I say "hypothesis," OK?

I don't even say "theory,"
because "hypothesis" is a possibility

that upcoming events and also
what we have from the past

can come together,
may prove it accurate or not.

But one of the other areas
that there may be an agreement

between the United States and Russia,
is the bigger apple there,

- OK?
- Mm-hmm.

And that is Iran. Because, Syria...

who is more important for Russia:
Syria or Iran?

As part of this, I mean, we just had
this WMD, à la Iraq,

- popping up with Syria now
- Right.

And things are getting really heated.

And again, my prediction, my hypothesis
is that what is going to happen there

is going to be done in the next two weeks.

And again, it goes with the entire timeline
with this Boston terror incident

and what's happening between Russia
and the United States,

and the backdoor deals.

And other agreement, maybe,

that we will be basically
hands-off for a while with Iran,

Both in terms of some of the sanctions

and some of the stuff that has been
kind of intensifying,

brewing in the background.

So another thing I wouldn't be
surprised about would be,

the rhetoric on Iran may get milder,

because that's one place
that Russia would not compromise.

Syria is a different deal, but with Iran,
that may be part of the agreement,

that, "You won't be seeing anything really big, major escalation with Iran,

for at least another year or two,

and Russia would be happy with that.

And you know, with the WMD à la Iraq,
it's very interesting,

because right now, Russia says,

"Well, we need to be part
of this inspection team."

"And if we find out..."
-- because Geneva convention holds --

"...if we find out
that there's been any use,

then OK, US: then you have
a free hand to do this."

On the other hand, we are hearing
from the Syrian government

that says, "Well, the al-Qaeda there..."

-- our al-Qaeda; the United States' al-Qaeda --

- Right.
- "...and these terror rebel groups:

they're the ones who've been using these
WMDs against soldiers and against people."

Mm-hmm.

Now, think about it: we give these chemicals
to our rebels...

-- and we have already said,
"Yes, they are under us."

We have been funding, arming,
managing them:

either directly, or through our allies within the Gulf region:

through Dubai, through Qatar,
through Jordan --

and sure, we can supply them
-- which, we have already done so --

with some chemical weapons,
have them use it on the ground,

send the inspectors, consent, and say,
"Fine, Russians can be part of the team,"

and lo and behold, they're gonna say,

"Here it is! This is the amount used,

and these are the chemical weapons
that that shows present,"

and just blame it on
the Syrian government.

I'm just bring a scenario
that is highly likely.

And at this stage, Russia's gonna
be able to save face and say,

"You know what? After all, the Geneva
Convention overrides everything else.

The report says there is a presence of chemical weapons, OK?

And the US and all the intelligence agents
said it was Assad,

nobody's broadcasting
Assad's government's reports

saying that the rebels have been,
the terrorists have been using this,

and, "Go ahead," the US; and,
"Go ahead," the international community,

and within a couple of days,
Assad will be done.

So that... again, that is my hypothesis.

That's the prediction
that I'm leaning towards, saying,

"This is the likely scenario
that we will be seeing,"

giving Russia, also,
the opportunity to save face.

Wow. That's very interesting.
A great analysis.

And I've gotta say, peoplo have to go
to BoilingFrogsPost.com

and take a look at this Gladio B series
that you've got there.

I've watched only the first hour of it,
but it is really packed with information.

It puts all these current events in context;

it shows that CIA fingerprints
are all over this;

but more importantly, when we saw
the Soviet Union go down in 1989,

the military-industrial complex
in the United States

no longer had a credible enemy
that they could use

to continue to build
and to buy stuff, right?

At that point, everybody was saying,

"How are we gonna spend
this peace dividend? How are we gonna...

"That's great, because now we've won:

now we don't have to spend so much
on the military."

That got the military-industrial complex
very concerned,

and if we go back and you look at...
Gladio B lays this all out,

how the CIA went in and funded
the new opposition,

which could not only replace Russia,

but be something that was far bigger: something that would give them a domestic

military-police state-industrial complex.
I mean, this is big.

The War on Terror was something that was gonna deliver for them

something the Cold War
could never deliver:

and that is, an attack on Americans,

constant surveillance,
constant militarization.

And when you look at the way the military

is turning inward now
in the United States,

you can see where the military-industrial
complex is headed on this.

And it's really important for everybody
to get, to understand

what was going on in the 1990s, in-between
the fall of the Soviet Union in '89

and September 11th in 2009 [sic: 2001].

And your series really lays that out.

Thank you, Sibel, for joining us today.
I really appreciate that.

Thank you. And time, David: my pleasure.

And thank you for providing
the opportunity to put this information out.

You're one of very, very, very few
alternatives that does that.

So thank you very much.

- Thank you. Bye-bye.
- Bye-bye.

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