[20:08] <Drufle> im just gonna go ahead and start the spiel here
[20:08] <phoone> !?
[20:08] <phoone> !!
[20:08] <Drufle> i'll explain the world first i suppose
[20:08] <phoone> ok
[20:08] <Drufle> the idea of the this world is that earth isnt quite what it used to be
[20:08] <Drufle> but it still is?
[20:08] <Drufle> theres two parts to it now
[20:09] <Drufle> the prosaic earth, which is just the normal stuff we see
[20:09] <phoone> you've already lost me
[20:09] <Drufle> and the mythic earth, which is basically the crazy fantasy overlay
[20:09] <phoone> mkay
[20:09] <Drufle> and everything is interconnected
[20:09] <phoone> ...alright
[20:09] <Drufle> chopping down a tree in prosaic kills a dryad in mythic, defeating a golem in mythic might shatter a boulder in prosaic
[20:09] <Drufle> etc etc
[20:09] <phoone> typical 'magic world through a veil' thing
[20:09] <phoone> alright
[20:10] <Drufle> the earth hangs in the world ash
[20:10] <Drufle> which is the term for the branches of yggdrassil
[20:10] <Drufle> the world tree
[20:10] <Drufle> so we got some good ol' norse mythology up in here
[20:10] <phoone> woo
[20:10] <Drufle> heaven sits atop the very top of the tree
[20:10] <Drufle> and hell simmers under the roots
[20:11] <Drufle> surrounding the entire tree is something called the Weirding Wall
[20:11] <Drufle> its this foggy expanse of nothingness that absolutely nobody has any clue whats behind it
[20:11] <phoone> well huh
[20:11] <Drufle> every now and then an odd creature will wander in but you cant leave
[20:11] <Drufle> only enter
[20:11] <phoone> the tree is... space?
[20:11] <phoone> so in terms of the relationship between worlds
[20:12] <Drufle> kind of yes
[20:12] <phoone> bah there's no sense to it alright continue
[20:12] <Drufle> of course there are other worlds hanging in the ash
[20:12] <phoone> well duh
[20:12] <Drufle> but earth is the most important as it was the first
[20:12] <phoone> oh cool
[20:12] <Drufle> so thats the premise of the setting
[20:12] <Drufle> whats actually important is this big-ass war
[20:13] <Drufle> an enormous, extensive conflict between the Imperators and the Excrucians
[20:13] <phoone> D:
[20:13] <Drufle> the Imperators are the ones who are trying to protect the sanctity of the world ash
[20:13] <Drufle> and the Excrucians are trying to destroy, remove, and corrupt all of reality
[20:14] <Drufle> now heres the thing
[20:14] <Drufle> like The Big Thing
[20:14] <Drufle> every Imperator is in charge of some aspect (called their 'estates') of reality
[20:14] <phoone> The Thing
[20:14] <phoone> mmhm
[20:14] <Streak> (it should be noted that the earth is a modern day one)
[20:14] <Drufle> so they might be the Imperator of Flame, or of Travel, or maybe of Beatboxing
[20:14] <Drufle> yes that is also important
[20:15] <Drufle> prosaic earth is like
[20:15] <Drufle> circa 2000
[20:15] <Streak> (humans don't know about these 'gods', except for a few cults maybe)
[20:15] <Drufle> correct
[20:15] <phoone> always with the cultists
[20:15] <Drufle> well most humans at least
[20:15] <Streak> i bet obama knows
[20:15] <Drufle> see, Imperators dont actually have time to keep an eye on their estates
[20:15] <Drufle> too busy with all the wars
[20:16] <Drufle> so they find someone (usually a human, but it can be seriously anything) that exemplifies one of their estates
[20:16] <phoone> off fighting Space Wars
[20:16] <Drufle> the Imperator will take a shard of their soul and place it in the person, giving them ridiculous powers
[20:16] <phoone> busy dudes
[20:16] <Drufle> that person is now a Noble
[20:16] <Drufle> plural Nobilis
[20:17] <Drufle> hence the name
[20:17] <Streak> noblii
[20:17] <Drufle> not all Nobilis are happy about this, actually
[20:17] <Drufle> especially if theyre given an estate theyre not too terribly fond of
[20:17] <phoone> oic
[20:17] <phoone> well that makes sense
[20:17] <Drufle> of course, they must have some portion of the estate
[20:17] <phoone> congratulations you rae now the god of fire hydrants
[20:18] <Drufle> otherwise the Imperator wouldnt have given them the power
[20:18] <Drufle> Imperators often make a bunch of Nobilis
[20:18] <Drufle> since they usually have quite a few estates
[20:18] <Drufle> a group of Nobilis under a single Imperator is called a Familiae Celestia
[20:18] <Drufle> or something like that
[20:19] <Drufle> theres a lot of fancy latin
[20:19] <Drufle> and so its a Noble's job to protect their estate, further their Imperator's wills, and work for their chancel
[20:19] <Drufle> a chancel is basically their HQ
[20:19] <Drufle> its a part of the earth that an Imperator has secretly removed from the planet
[20:19] <phoone> so bascailayy
[20:20] <Drufle> leaving no trace
[20:20] <Streak> "There are many, many Imperators and most of them have several Nobles. While virtually all Imperators wish to protect creation, there is a good amount of disagreement as to what course creation should take. Heaven has one opinion. Hell has another. The Light views humanity as of the highest value and it should be protected (even against itself). The Dark holds the opposite view. The Wild values
[20:20] <Streak> freedom above all else. And then there are other Imperators who are not affiliated with any of these factions and have their own ideas how things should be run."
[20:20] <Streak> wow thats longer than i thought
[20:20] <Drufle> ok well yes i was getting to that
[20:20] <Streak> oh okay i have jumped the gun here
[20:20] <Drufle> i'll get to that after chancels
[20:21] <Drufle> but yeah an Imperator will take out a piece of earth (or another world) and put it in its own pocket reality
[20:21] <Drufle> they might leave it as be, or they might imbue it with their estate
[20:21] <Drufle> the point is that the chancel is where most of your power is coming from, so you better take care of it
[20:21] <Drufle> it might have inhabitants, it might not
[20:21] <Drufle> who knows
[20:22] <Drufle> they might like you, they might not
[20:22] <Drufle> theres a lot of variables
[20:22] <Drufle> so yeah about what streak was talking about
[20:22] <Drufle> there are 6 primary kinds of imperators
[20:22] <Drufle> Angels of heaven, who value beauty above all else
[20:22] <Drufle> Fallen angels from hell, who wish to corrupt beauty
[20:23] <Drufle> the Light gods, who wish to protect humanity
[20:23] <Drufle> Dark gods, who wish to corrupt them
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[20:23] <Drufle> the Wild gods, who came from outside the Weirding Wall
[20:23] <phoone_> whee
[20:23] <phoone_> my computer suddenly decided to go at 2 fps
[20:23] <Drufle> and the Old Gods, who do whatever they want
[20:23] <Drufle> well
[20:23] <phoone_> remember the part where i suddenly stopped talking mid sentence
[20:24] <phoone_> i haven't heard anything since then
[20:24] <Drufle> yeah i was wondering what happened
[20:24] <phoone_> i got disconnected
[20:24] <Drufle> [20:20] <Streak> "There are many, many Imperators and most of them have several Nobles. While virtually all Imperators wish to protect creation, there is a good amount of disagreement as to what course creation should take. Heaven has one opinion. Hell has another. The Light views humanity as of the highest value and it should be protected (even against itself). The Dark holds the opposite view. The Wild values [20:20] <Streak> freedom above all else. And then there are other Imperators who are not affiliat
[20:24] <Drufle> ah
[20:24] <Drufle> right
[20:24] <Streak> just take it from where you describe estates
[20:24] <Drufle> character limit
[20:24] <Drufle> estates or chancels
[20:25] <Streak>  <@Drufle> but yeah an Imperator will take out a piece of earth (or another world) and put it in its own pocket reality
[20:25] <Streak> from that bit
[20:25] <Drufle> ok
[20:25] <Drufle> a chancel is, like the Nobilis, a part of the Imperator
[20:25] <phoone_> yus
[20:25] <Drufle> so you get your powers from there so you better take care of it
[20:25] <phoone_> chancels are super  cool thematic bases right
[20:25] <phoone_> that double as power sources
[20:25] <Drufle> precisely
[20:25] <Drufle> that is 100% accurate
[20:26] <Drufle> it might have other inhabitants
[20:26] <Drufle> it might not
[20:26] <Streak> pimpin' crib
[20:26] <Drufle> they might hate you or love you
[20:26] <Drufle> they could be humans, they could be dragons
[20:26] <phoone_> you might know them as 'side characters'
[20:26] <Drufle> it depends on the imperator
[20:26] <Drufle> so yeah
[20:26] <Drufle> chancels? pretty neat
[20:27] <Drufle> so lets talk about the types of imperators
[20:27] <Drufle> there are actually 7
[20:27] <Drufle> i forgot one
[20:27] <Drufle> we have angels, which fight for beauty and purity
[20:27] <phoone_> mhm
[20:27] <Drufle> fallen angels, which seek corruption of that
[20:27] <phoone_> D:
[20:27] <Drufle> Light gods, who wish to protect humanity
[20:28] <Drufle> and Dark gods, who wish them to self-destruct
[20:28] <Drufle> a very important distinction- Excrucians want to obliterate humans, Dark gods want them to do it themselves
[20:28] <phoone_> intereting distinction
[20:28] <Drufle> theres the Wild gods
[20:28] <Drufle> who come from outside the Weirding Wall
[20:28] <phoone_> i guess light gods might protect someone who could be seen as evil because they're human
[20:28] <Drufle> yes! very true
[20:29] <Streak> of course all imperators would like the universe to not die
[20:29] <phoone_> and angesl   might try to kill sokmeone because they don't fit into their idea of beauty
[20:29] <Drufle> precisely
[20:29] <Drufle> you are picking up the differences very quickly
[20:29] <phoone_> how 2 type
[20:29] <Drufle> a lot faster than i did
[20:29] <Streak> so dark gods also don't want the universe to die like the excrucians want to do
[20:29] <Drufle> and yes streak is right
[20:29] <phoone_> tey justu don't like people
[20:29] <Drufle> yup
[20:29] <Drufle> the "we shouldnt destroy everything cuz there'll be nothing left to rule" guys
[20:29] <phoone_> you get to see now how many typoes i actually make while typing that i go back and correct
[20:30] <Drufle> yup
[20:30] <Drufle> anyway the other two
[20:30] <Drufle> the True gods
[20:30] <Drufle> these are like, the actual mythology gods
[20:30] <Drufle> the Big Dudes
[20:30] <Streak> 'look at use we're popular'
[20:30] <phoone_> like Norse or like Greek
[20:30] <phoone_> well i guess those are pretty similar
[20:30] <Drufle> things like Elohim, Zeus, Ra, Loki
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[20:30] <phoone> oic
[20:30] <Drufle> these are True Gods
[20:31] <phoone> never heard of elohim
[20:31] <Drufle> christian god
[20:31] <phoone> elohim?
[20:31] <phoone> ah
[20:31] <Drufle> fancy name
[20:31] <phoone> oh that's interesting then
[20:31] <phoone> i like that
[20:31] <Drufle> obviously, true gods dont really have a codified law
[20:31] <Drufle> they do whatever they like
[20:32] <Drufle> finally, we have the last ones
[20:32] <phoone> you kind of skipped over the wild gods too
[20:32] <Drufle> oh
[20:32] <Drufle> whoops yes
[20:32] <Drufle> Wild Gods are all about freedom
[20:32] <phoone> they just kind of do whatever huh
[20:32] <Streak> muricah
[20:32] <Drufle> "A choice made freely is the most beautiful thing"
[20:32] <phoone> so they came from outside like the villains did but they dlike it here?
[20:32] <Drufle> yep
[20:32] <Drufle> wild gods are basically the hippy gods
[20:32] <phoone> whoa what
[20:32] <phoone> flash player was taking up 90% of my system memory
[20:33] <phoone> i don't have youtube open or anything o-o
[20:33] <Drufle> wow
[20:33] <Drufle> good job
[20:33] <phoone> now my computer is running at normal speed
[20:33] <Drufle> anyway i'm gonna finally get to the last group
[20:33] <phoone> ok
[20:33] <Drufle> Aaron's Serpents
[20:33] <Streak> he likes snakes
[20:33] <Drufle> ironically, despite being miles long snakes, they're actually the closest to humanity
[20:33] <Drufle> in terms of attitude and personality
[20:34] <Drufle> they're about peace and protection of creation
[20:34] <phoone> mansnake
[20:34] <Drufle> theyre not mansnakes
[20:34] <phoone> oh god no
[20:34] <phoone> wait
[20:34] <Drufle> they are literally snakes
[20:34] <phoone> okay let's gloss over that
[20:34] <phoone> so they're homestuck characters
[20:34] <Drufle> um
[20:34] <phoone> do they have weird hatesex too
[20:34] <Drufle> no clue
[20:34] <phoone> (((((talking bout cherubs)))))
[20:34] <phoone> (((((((((((((((((((((((to clarify))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[20:35] <Drufle> yes i realized that
[20:35] <Drufle> thank you
[20:35] <Drufle> so yeah your imperator are one of those seven
[20:35] <phoone> i realized that other characters in homestop also have hatesex
[20:35] <Drufle> also i should note that the players of the game create the imperator
[20:35] <phoone> so i figured i should specify
[20:35] <phoone> we could work for Snake, god of snakes
[20:35] <Drufle> along with their chancel and nobilis
[20:35] <Streak> hey give those brackets back
[20:35] <phoone> okay
[20:36] <Drufle> the hollyhock god creates the plot, the players make the setting
[20:36] <phoone> so we wouldn't work for some random flame guy
[20:36] <phoone> we'd work for say
[20:36] <phoone> vulcan
[20:36] <Drufle> or some crazy latin-named angel or what not
[20:36] <Drufle> yes
[20:36] <phoone> and one of us might be nobilis of metal
[20:36] <phoone> or something more specific
[20:36] <phoone> nobilis of volcanoes
[20:36] <Drufle> also the hollyhock god is the name for a GM
[20:36] <phoone> nobilis of plate techtonics
[20:36] <phoone> yup
[20:36] <Drufle> becauase
[20:36] <Drufle> and i shouldve mentioned this
[20:36] <Drufle> flowers are very, very important
[20:36] <Drufle> especially flower symbology
[20:37] <phoone> ...okay
[20:37] <Drufle> every Imperator and Noble has their own coat of arms, made up of flowers and other objects
[20:37] <phoone> is this gonna be homestuck with the frogs again
[20:37] <phoone> is the tree actually part of a big flower
[20:37] <Drufle> it could be
[20:37] <phoone> fufck
[20:37] <Drufle> fun fact
[20:37] <Drufle> there is an actual rule in the guidebook
[20:37] <phoone> fufuckickcifck
[20:37] <Drufle> and its like a #1 rule
[20:38] <Drufle> the HG is never to say no
[20:38] <phoone> wat
[20:38] <Drufle> if a player asks if they can do something, you should try and help them along
[20:38] <Drufle> unless theyre asking for something absurd of course
[20:38] <phoone> huh
[20:38] <Drufle> its important to let the players be creative
[20:38] <phoone> interesting
[20:38] <Drufle> is the point
[20:38] <Drufle> but back to flowers
[20:38] <phoone> i think that's a good idea
[20:39] <Drufle> Excrucians actually perform something called the Flower Rite
[20:39] <phoone> my first impression of this game was that a lot of it would devolve into semantics
[20:39] <Drufle> it really doesnt
[20:39] <Drufle> its basically mechanicless
[20:39] <Drufle> aside from like
[20:39] <Drufle> 8 numbers per player
[20:39] <Drufle> anyway the flower rite
[20:39] <phoone> :o
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[20:39] <Drufle> an Excrucian can actually completely remove some estate from existence
[20:40] <phoone> D:
[20:40] <phoone> is that like
[20:40] <phoone> bam
[20:40] <Drufle> well
[20:40] <phoone> no more raincoats
[20:40] <Drufle> its quite difficult
[20:40] <phoone> they're not a thing anymore
[20:40] <phoone> is it retroactive too
[20:40] <Drufle> they have to find some part of the world that perfectly represents the estate
[20:40] <Drufle> yes!
[20:40] <Drufle> it is indeed
[20:40] <phoone> oshit
[20:40] <Drufle> once they have found that place, they begin corrupting it
[20:41] <Drufle> slowly changing it to the exact opposite of what it once was
[20:41] <Drufle> if they succeed, the estate is gone
[20:41] <Drufle> poof
[20:41] <phoone> D:
[20:41] <Drufle> however this rite gives off a ton of power, so the noble who is in charge of that estate immediately knows its happening and a general idea of where it is
[20:42] <phoone> gon go fuck them up
[20:42] <Drufle> and thats what the game is meant to revolve around
[20:42] <Drufle> protecting your estates
[20:42] <Drufle> its also about political intrigue, relationships, familial bonds, etc
[20:42] <phoone> i had a stupid idea and it made me laugh so im gonna share it
[20:42] <Drufle> its mostly about fun
[20:43] <phoone> it was super dumb
[20:43] <phoone> no wait im not
[20:43] <phoone> just imagine a dumb idea
[20:43] <phoone> now laugh
[20:43] <phoone> oh man that was sstupid
[20:43] <Drufle> :|
[20:43] <Drufle> well ok
[20:43] <phoone> well then
[20:43] <Drufle> anyway how about i actually talk about mechanics
[20:44] <phoone> pull somethin together
[20:44] <phoone> sure
[20:44] <Drufle> the few numbers that exist
[20:44] <Drufle> you have 4 stats
[20:44] <Drufle> just 4
[20:44] <Drufle> i know more about 2e than 3e, so i might use that one
[20:44] <Drufle> it depends
[20:44] <Drufle> for now im just gonna talk about 2e
[20:44] <Drufle> you have Aspect
[20:44] <Drufle> it is not like the homestuck aspects
[20:45] <Drufle> Aspect basically just means "how physically capable are you"
[20:45] <phoone> mhm
[20:45] <Drufle> all stats go from 0 to 5
[20:45] <Drufle> (they can go to 7 in some fan-made things)
[20:45] <Drufle> a Power with 0 aspect is a normal human
[20:45] <Drufle> nothing really special
[20:45] <Drufle> Power is a name for a specific noble, by the way
[20:45] <phoone> so aspect is like
[20:45] <phoone> physical presence i guess>
[20:45] <Drufle> the Power of Metal, Power of Fire, etc
[20:45] <Drufle> yes
[20:46] <Drufle> aspect 1 is above-average
[20:46] <phoone> alright
[20:46] <Drufle> actually let me pull up the listing
[20:46] <Drufle> i want to get this right
[20:46] <phoone> :]
[20:47] <Drufle> one sec
[20:47] <Drufle> oh actually
[20:47] <Drufle> i missed something important
[20:47] <Drufle> let me hold off on stats for a moment
[20:47] <phoone> D:
[20:47] <Drufle> there are 6 major RULES
[20:47] <Drufle> in the world
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[20:47] <Drufle> for nobilis specifically
[20:48] <Drufle> rule 1: Thou shalt not love another
[20:48] <Drufle> nobody actually gives a shit about that rule
[20:48] <phoone> D:
[20:48] <Drufle> it happens all the time
[20:48] <phoone> jedi all over again
[20:48] <Drufle> rule 2: Thou shalt not hurt one who has done no harm
[20:49] <Drufle> this one is Super enforced
[20:49] <phoone> bah
[20:49] <phoone> violence solves all problems!!
[20:49] <Drufle> even if you think someone is evil, if they havent actually done anything
[20:49] <Drufle> you must leave them alone
[20:49] <Drufle> 3: Treat no beast as your lord
[20:49] <Drufle> this basically just means you should command respect from anything below you
[20:49] <Drufle> including humans
[20:50] <Drufle> 4: Protect no power from the Justice of the code
[20:50] <Drufle> dont harbor criminals, etc etc
[20:50] <phoone> mhm
[20:50] <Drufle> 5: Aiding the commora is not a crime
[20:50] <Drufle> cammora, sorry
[20:50] <Drufle> theyre basically noble mercenaries
[20:50] <Drufle> people given temporary power for a bit of help
[20:50] <phoone> i like how this is like rule: there is no rule against this thing
[20:51] <Drufle> :p
[20:51] <Drufle> oh wait theres only five rules
[20:51] <Drufle> whoops
[20:51] <Drufle> yeah those are THE RULES
[20:51] <Drufle> alright back to states
[20:51] <phoone> da rulez
[20:51] <Drufle> stats*
[20:51] <Drufle> aspect 1: you are metahuman
[20:51] <phoone> you had me worried for a sec there
[20:51] <phoone> haha
[20:51] <phoone> i thought i'd missed something
[20:51] <Drufle> basically olympian
[20:52] <Drufle> so a bit more than above-average
[20:52] <Drufle> i should mention that aspect is physical and mental
[20:52] <phoone> hercules
[20:52] <Drufle> hercules would be aspect 2
[20:52] <Drufle> which is legendary
[20:52] <phoone> both? huh
[20:52] <phoone> weird that it's both
[20:52] <Drufle> i know right
[20:52] <phoone> you can't be strong without being smart as well
[20:52] <Drufle> its kinda neat though
[20:53] <Drufle> aspect 2 is when you kind of start losing humanity
[20:53] <Drufle> in that your estate starts filling you with power
[20:53] <Drufle> at that point you probably take on some physical aspect of your estate
[20:53] <Drufle> aspect 3 is inhuman
[20:53] <Drufle> you are made of your estate at that point, of pure energy
[20:54] <phoone> D:
[20:54] <Drufle> you can think like a supercomputer and can do incredible things
[20:54] <phoone> these go to 5 you said
[20:54] <Drufle> yep
[20:54] <Drufle> aspect 4: you are celestial
[20:54] <phoone> D:
[20:55] <Drufle> one with the divine, truly astounding in prowess
[20:55] <Drufle> aspect 5, you are an Exemplar
[20:55] <Drufle> if you can think of something physical, you can do it
[20:55] <Drufle> its pretty nuts
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[20:55] <phoone_> son of a bitch
[20:55] <Drufle> hello again
[20:56] <phoone_> okay go over 4 again
[20:56] <phoone_> .-.
[20:56] <Drufle> [20:55] <Drufle> one with the divine, truly astounding in prowess [20:55] <Drufle> aspect 5, you are an Exemplar [20:55] <Drufle> if you can think of something physical, you can do it [20:55] <Drufle> its pretty nuts
[20:56] <Drufle> thats all i said
[20:56] <phoone_> well huh
[20:56] <phoone_> okay then
[20:56] <Drufle> with every stat, you get 5 Miracle points
[20:56] <Drufle> so you have 5 AMP
[20:56] <Drufle> aspect miracle points
[20:56] <Drufle> there are 9 levels of aspect miracles
[20:57] <Drufle> if your stat is equal to or greater than the aspect level
[20:57] <Drufle> you can do it at will
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[20:57] <Drufle> anything higher, you need to spend points
[20:57] <Streak> ugh my internet is really acting up tonight
[20:57] <Streak> i guess i missed a lot huh
[20:57] <Drufle> the miracles are spaced out a little more carefully
[20:57] <Drufle> you did yes
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[20:58] <Streak> you can put it in a pastebin or something
[20:58] <phoone_> high streak
[20:58] <Drufle> i will
[20:58] <Streak> instead of reexplaining it
[20:58] <phoone_> where did that gh come from
[20:58] <phoone_> what
[20:58] <Drufle> im talking about stats
[20:58] <phoone_> im so confused
[20:58] <phoone_> what
[20:58] <Streak> Altitude Me
[20:58] <Drufle> anyway so like
[20:58] <phoone_> maybe i should go to bed early
[20:58] <Streak> stay forever
[20:58] <Drufle> aspect 0 miracle is anything a normal human can do
[20:59] <Drufle> and they get crazier as you go up
[20:59] <Drufle> i'll skip some levels
[20:59] <Drufle> level 3 is things like punching through steel
[20:59] <Drufle> outcomputing a pentium computer
[20:59] <Drufle> etc
[20:59] <phoone_> wait that's it
[20:59] <phoone_> i feel like levels 1-2 should have fun stuff right
[20:59] <Drufle> well ok
[20:59] <phoone_> punching through steel sounds pretty easy in my head
[20:59] <Drufle> should i give examples of all
[20:59] <phoone_> given the scale of this game
[20:59] <phoone_> yeah sure
[21:00] <Drufle> 1: catching arrows, computing cube roots in your head
[21:00] <Drufle> awfully difficult, not crazy
[21:00] <Drufle> 2: remembering anything youve ever heard, measuring exact distances with your eyes
[21:00] <Drufle> world record-level human
[21:00] <phoone_> huh
[21:00] <Drufle> 3: improbable feats like what i said
[21:00] <phoone_> well i guess if it was really thick steel you'd need to be level 3
[21:01] <Streak> smashing 42 coconuts with your head in a minute
[21:01] <phoone_> action movies have taught me that no wall is as thick as it seems
[21:01] <Drufle> 4: very improbable- tracking by scent, throwing a motorcycle
[21:01] <phoone_> streak: i've always wanted to do that
[21:01] <phoone_> never got past 6
[21:01] <Streak> its only level 2!
[21:01] <Streak> u can do it
[21:01] <Drufle> 5: impossible for most humans- running at cheetah speed, catching a bullet
[21:01] <phoone_> i always just pass out after a few headbonks
[21:01] <phoone_> so wait
[21:01] <phoone_> at level 3 you'd be like
[21:02] <phoone_> say you're the water noble or whatever
[21:02] <phoone_> you're inhuman
[21:02] <Drufle> 6: universally improbable- run at mach 3, reconcile quantum mechanics and relativity
[21:02] <phoone_> literally just a water man
[21:02] <Drufle> yes
[21:02] <phoone_> but you still can't throw motorcycles
[21:02] <phoone_> bogus
[21:02] <Drufle> no you can
[21:02] <Drufle> youd need to spend a AMP
[21:02] <phoone_> oh you just have to try hard
[21:02] <phoone_> okay
[21:02] <Drufle> yes
[21:02] <phoone_> i'm okay with this now
[21:02] <Drufle> also i should note
[21:02] <phoone_> i forgot about the points
[21:02] <Drufle> aspect does NOT allow you to do anything that isnt physically feasible
[21:03] <phoone_> smashing 43 coconuts in under a minute
[21:03] <phoone_> etc
[21:03] <Drufle> so you can read a book in seconds, but you cant read it without opening it
[21:03] <phoone_> well that's just sensible
[21:03] <Drufle> although you could weigh it, determine how much ink is in it, determine the probability of what letters are in what position and how they are likely to be arranged
[21:04] <Drufle> thatd be a high aspect miracle
[21:04] <Drufle> anyway
[21:04] <phoone_> o-o
[21:04] <Drufle> 7: impossible for anyone (local)- drinking a pond, taking down a blimp with a hairpin
[21:04] <Streak> hey macgyver could probably do that
[21:04] <phoone_> well then
[21:05] <Drufle> 8: impossible for anyone (global)- shouting a country to death, shooting the sun out of the sky
[21:05] <Drufle> 9: literally anything- juggling galaxies, hiding a mountain in your shirt
[21:05] <phoone_> hehe
[21:05] <phoone_> wait what
[21:05] <phoone_> i thoguht it couldn't be physically impossible
[21:05] <nard> make a mountain sized shirt
[21:05] <phoone_> how do you fit a mountain in your shirt
[21:05] <Drufle> good question
[21:05] <Drufle> i think at aspect 9
[21:05] <phoone_> another problem solved by nerd
[21:06] <Streak> haha, nards
[21:06] <Drufle> you can do things effectively magical
[21:06] <Drufle> anyway lets talk about the next stat
[21:06] <Drufle> Domain
[21:06] <Drufle> 0-5, as usual
[21:06] <Drufle> these levels give you titles
[21:06] <Drufle> 0 (Pawn)- you have no power over your estate
[21:06] <Drufle> it might even control you
[21:07] <phoone_> :o
[21:07] <Drufle> 1 (Baronet)- you have a bit of control, but not much
[21:07] <Drufle> 2 (Viscount)- your estate serves you quite nicely, you can do some cool things
[21:08] <Drufle> 3 (Marquis)- you have significant power of your estate
[21:08] <phoone_> :D
[21:08] <Drufle> 4 (Duke)- you are virtually limitless in magic, and have extensive control
[21:08] <nard> that's me!
[21:08] <Drufle> 5 (Regal)- you are seriously a god, you are a living representation of your estate
[21:08] <Streak> Duke of nards
[21:09] <Drufle> so like aspect, there are 0-9 levels of miracles
[21:09] <phoone_> Duke of hazards
[21:09] <phoone_> serious control over
[21:09] <phoone_> traffic
[21:09] <phoone_> potholes
[21:09] <phoone_> cliffs
[21:09] <Drufle> basically yes
[21:09] <Drufle> there are five types of Dmiracles
[21:09] <Drufle> divination, preservation, creation, destruction, change
[21:09] <phoone_> dmitriracles
[21:10] <Streak> defeat your enemies by making them trip over that rock they didn't see
[21:10] <Drufle> and there are lesser/major versions of each
[21:10] <Streak> this is so illegal
[21:10] <Drufle> streak: thats a perfectly valid option
[21:10] <Drufle> thatd be a minor creation of Hazards
[21:10] <phoone_> :D
[21:10] <Drufle> level 4 Dmiracle
[21:10] <Drufle> so yeah
[21:11] <Drufle> 0: estate-driven divination, you know when your estate is in danger
[21:11] <phoone_> :o
[21:11] <Drufle> as with the flower rite described above
[21:11] <Drufle> 1: ghost miracles
[21:11] <Drufle> basically illusions of any other miracle
[21:11] <Drufle> 2: lesser divination
[21:11] <Drufle> 3: lesser preservation
[21:11] <Drufle> 4: lesser creation
[21:11] <Drufle> 5: lesser destruction/major divination
[21:12] <Drufle> 6: lesser change/major preservation
[21:12] <Drufle> 7: major creation
[21:12] <Drufle> 8: major destruction
[21:12] <Drufle> 9: major change
[21:12] <phoone_> Major Change of the social justice army
[21:12] <Drufle> major changes are really, really major though
[21:12] <Drufle> like say youre the Power of Books
[21:12] <phoone_>  boooooooooooooooooooooooks
[21:12] <Drufle> a major change would be something like making every book in existence suddenly written in Esperanto
[21:13] <phoone_> hahaha
[21:13] <Drufle> stuff like that
[21:13] <phoone_> are these retroactive btw
[21:13] <Drufle> yes
[21:13] <phoone_> ooohh
[21:13] <Drufle> virtually all major miracles are retroactive
[21:13] <Drufle> as are most rites
[21:13] <phoone_> you could immediately make the world language esperanto
[21:13] <Drufle> well
[21:13] <Drufle> no
[21:13] <phoone_> because it would be the only one people would read
[21:13] <phoone_> duh
[21:13] <Streak> 'wait why did we do this i can't read this'
[21:13] <Drufle> yes see streak sees the problem
[21:13] <phoone_> causality!
[21:13] <Streak> 'i can't remember why we did this'
[21:13] <Drufle> it doesnt actually change anyone's ability to read them
[21:13] <phoone_> aw man
[21:14] <Drufle> although you can do that
[21:14] <phoone_> that's lame
[21:14] <Drufle> thatd be a separate miracle
[21:14] <phoone_> i was hoping you could cause chain reactions
[21:14] <Streak> then again
[21:14] <phoone_> by screwing with causality
[21:14] <Drufle> temporal stuff doesnet actually come up with this too much
[21:14] <Streak> if you change the world language then the books would change anyway
[21:14] <Drufle> i can let it though!
[21:14] <Drufle> never say no
[21:14] <Drufle> anyway lets go to the third stat
[21:14] <Drufle> Realm
[21:15] <Drufle> realm is basically the same thing as domain, except for your chancel
[21:15] <Drufle> it also has titles
[21:15] <Drufle> 0 (Citizen)- you have zero control of your chancel
[21:15] <Drufle> 1 (Radiant)- you can change surface conditions, but not much else
[21:15] <Drufle> 2 (Realm's Heart)- you can do some medium-level things, and you know everything happening
[21:16] <Drufle> 3 (Warden)- you can defend your chancel easily
[21:16] <phoone_> huh
[21:16] <Drufle> 4 (True King/Queen)- you could probably hold off an Imperator in your chancel
[21:16] <Drufle> 5 (Tempest)- dont EVER try to invade a tempest's chancel
[21:16] <Drufle> you gonna die
[21:16] <phoone_> so if domain is like offensive magic, this is more... defensive magic?
[21:16] <Drufle> sort of?
[21:16] <phoone_> i guess
[21:16] <phoone_> kinda
[21:17] <phoone_> ????????
[21:17] <Drufle> its defensive magic that only applies to your chancel
[21:17] <phoone_> interesting idea though
[21:17] <Drufle> realm miracles are exactly the same as domain miracles
[21:17] <Drufle> except applying to the chancel
[21:17] <phoone_> building off how it's a dual purpose Cool Base/power source
[21:17] <Drufle> so finally we have Spirit
[21:17] <Drufle> spirit is basically your defense stat
[21:18] <Drufle> every noble has something called an Auctoritas
[21:18] <Drufle> which is a magical field around you that protects you from miracles
[21:18] <Drufle> so more titles
[21:18] <Drufle> 0 (Candleflame)- youre basically human, no shield
[21:18] <phoone_> huh
[21:18] <Drufle> 1 (Hearthfire)- you can blunt only the weakest attacks
[21:19] <Drufle> 2 (Incandescent Flame)- your essence trickles out, bending things to your will
[21:19] <Drufle> 3 (Sunfire)- you have deep spirituality, highly protected
[21:19] <Drufle> 4 (Conflagration)- you are a titanic personality, you have immense defense
[21:19] <phoone_> so it's like a... sort of subconscious defense system?
[21:19] <Drufle> 5 (Inferno)- there is exceptional power in your heart, you have serious advantages in battle
[21:19] <Drufle> yes
[21:19] <Drufle> basically
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[21:20] <Drufle> spirit also determines how good you are at rites
[21:20] <Drufle> also!
[21:20] <phoone_> interestink
[21:20] <phoone_> NEW THING
[21:20] <Drufle> spirit has one more use
[21:20] <Drufle> you get a number of anchors equal to spirit+1
[21:20] <Drufle> anchors are basically your own personal nobles
[21:21] <Drufle> you leash someone with your own spirit
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[21:21] <Drufle> you can see and sense through them, act through them, know what they know
[21:21] <Drufle> hello again
[21:21] <phoone> i think i caught it pretty quick this time
[21:21] <phoone> start over with anchors again?
[21:21] <Drufle> you did
[21:21] <Drufle> [21:20] <Drufle> you get a number of anchors equal to spirit+1 [21:20] <Drufle> anchors are basically your own personal nobles [21:21] <Drufle> you leash someone with your own spirit
[21:21] <phoone> why is this happening
[21:21] <phoone> lol
[21:21] <phoone> i read on the article that anchors can be like, rivals or friends?
[21:21] <Drufle> [21:21] <Drufle> you can see and sense through them, act through them, know what they know
[21:21] <Drufle> yes
[21:21] <phoone> it's either love or hate that binds you
[21:22] <Drufle> yup
[21:22] <Drufle> which is a very interesting idea
[21:22] <Drufle> also something of importance
[21:22] <phoone> :o
[21:22] <Drufle> you cannot spend more than 4 MP on a miracle
[21:23] <Drufle> so if you have aspect 1, you can only perform up to level 5 miraclse
[21:23] <phoone> you only get 5 right
[21:23] <Drufle> miracles*
[21:23] <Drufle> yes
[21:23] <phoone> you can ALMOST blow it all at once but not quite
[21:23] <phoone> lol
[21:23] <Drufle> you also have to spend an extra DMP if the miracles is done far away
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[21:23] <Drufle> now most nobilis have restrictions
[21:23] <Drufle> something that keeps them from doing whatever
[21:24] <Drufle> it might be something physical/mental, like a missing arm or mental handicap
[21:24] <Drufle> or might be ideological, like a code of conduct
[21:24] <Drufle> in game, whenever you get inconvenienced by one of these things
[21:24] <phoone> hm
[21:24] <Drufle> you get a free MP to put in any pool
[21:24] <phoone> interesting...
[21:24] <phoone> wait so are the restrictions pre-existing
[21:24] <phoone> or are they inflicted by the imperator
[21:24] <Drufle> either
[21:24] <phoone> when they become a noble
[21:25] <phoone> interestingg
[21:25] <Drufle> they often are pre-existing
[21:25] <Drufle> this is how you issue words of command
[21:25] <Drufle> WoC are absurdly powerful
[21:25] <phoone> new thiiiiiing
[21:25] <Drufle> even more powerful than most miracles
[21:25] <Drufle> they cost 8 of one kind of MP
[21:25] <Drufle> note again that you start with 5
[21:26] <Drufle> it is a powerful, raw burst of energy that greatly harms the caster
[21:26] <Drufle> it can be used for any of the five main kinds of miracles
[21:26] <phoone> huh
[21:26] <Drufle> or it can be used for gating (any kind of control)
[21:26] <Drufle> travel, not control
[21:26] <Drufle> or you can use it for controlling
[21:27] <Drufle> theyre very rare
[21:27] <Drufle> its not often that you get 8MP
[21:27] <phoone> huh
[21:27] <Drufle> and now we have gifts
[21:27] <Drufle> gifts are anything unusual about your character not covered by your stats
[21:28] <Drufle> flight, shapeshifting, a magical presence
[21:28] <Drufle> its a lot of things
[21:28] <phoone> :o
[21:28] <Drufle> many, many things
[21:28] <Drufle> so now i can finally talk about actual character creation numbers
[21:28] <phoone> did streak die
[21:28] <phoone> yay
[21:28] <Drufle> he probably timed out again
[21:28] <Drufle> you start with 25 CP, character points
[21:29] <Drufle> and you start at 0 with every stat
[21:29] <Drufle> increasing a stat by 1 costs 3 CP
[21:29] <Drufle> so you could totally immediately raise a stat to 5
[21:29] <phoone> is it one of those
[21:29] <phoone> oh no
[21:29] <Drufle> but thatd leave you with only 10 points to put elsewhere
[21:29] <Drufle> also: gifts cost CP
[21:29] <Drufle> so you might not want to put everything into stats
[21:29] <phoone> i was wondering if it was a 'level 1 costs 3, level 2 costs 4 plus the 3 from last level' etc types
[21:29] <Drufle> nope
[21:30] <Drufle> all levels cost 3
[21:30] <phoone> good
[21:30] <phoone> those are usually pretty BS
[21:30] <Drufle> and thats most of character creation right there
[21:30] <phoone> hah
[21:30] <Drufle> there is one last thing
[21:30] <Drufle> Bonds
[21:30] <Drufle> you have 20 bond points
[21:30] <phoone> Stocks
[21:30] <phoone> Taxes
[21:31] <Drufle> xD
[21:31] <Drufle> no
[21:31] <Drufle> or maybe i dunno
[21:31] <phoone> phew
[21:31] <phoone> Economy RPG 2014
[21:31] <Drufle> bonds are whatever is important to you
[21:31] <phoone> aka taxes
[21:31] <Drufle> you buy 20 points worth of bonds
[21:31] <Drufle> a 5-point bond is something very, very important
[21:31] <Drufle> like a spouse or relative
[21:31] <Drufle> 1 point is important, but not that much
[21:32] <Drufle> you can of course spend all 20 points on one thing
[21:32] <Drufle> meaning that that object means literally everything to you
[21:32] <Drufle> this is why bonds are important though
[21:32] <Drufle> if your bonds are destroyed, corrupted, or turned against you, you lose MP
[21:32] <phoone> so i've got a question
[21:32] <phoone> oh dear
[21:32] <vurl> oh dear oh dear
[21:32] <Drufle> usually temporary
[21:32] <phoone> when a person becomes a noble
[21:32] <phoone> what happens to them on Normal Boring Earth
[21:33] <Drufle> they still exist there!
[21:33] <Drufle> they can totally just hang out on prosaic earth if they want
[21:33] <Drufle> with their new god powers
[21:33] <phoone> huh
[21:33] <phoone> well okay
[21:34] <Drufle> so we also have flaws
[21:34] <Drufle> that i mentioned earlier
[21:34] <Drufle> you can have power handicaps
[21:34] <Drufle> permament limits on one of your stats
[21:34] <Drufle> not the actual number, but your powers from it
[21:35] <Drufle> those limits give you bonus MP in that pool when it refreshes
[21:35] <Drufle> your MP refresh at the beginning of each new session
[21:35] <Drufle> not day, session
[21:35] <phoone> huh
[21:35] <phoone> when you 'rest' or whatever?
[21:35] <Drufle> yeah
[21:35] <Drufle> so limits are things like
[21:36] <Drufle> for aspect, you might be blind or lame
[21:36] <Drufle> for domain, maybe youre the Power of Instant Noodles
[21:36] <phoone> that sounds amazing
[21:36] <phoone> shut your heathen mouth
[21:36] <Drufle> for realm, maybe all your chancel's inhabitants really hate you
[21:36] <Drufle> im using the book examples bro
[21:36] <Drufle> blame them not me
[21:36] <phoone> haha
[21:36] <Drufle> spirit, you might be uninspiring
[21:37] <Drufle> all Nobilis have to have at least one restriction: their affiliation
[21:37] <Drufle> this is to angels, demons, light gods, etc
[21:37] <Drufle> note: it does not have to be the same as your Imperitor
[21:37] <phoone> huh
[21:37] <phoone> iiiiinteresting
[21:38] <Drufle> but you do lose an MP if you go against it
[21:38] <Drufle> so be careful
[21:38] <Drufle> so some restrictions might be like
[21:38] <Drufle> you cant lie
[21:38] <Drufle> so you get an MP whenever a lie might have been really useful
[21:38] <Drufle> you cant cross running water
[21:38] <Drufle> you might be repulsed by the Creator's name
[21:38] <Drufle> etc etc
[21:39] <phoone> D:
[21:39] <Drufle> ok so
[21:39] <Drufle> i think thats literally everything you need to know
[21:39] <Drufle> there are other minor mechanics
[21:39] <Drufle> but im not gonna bother with those at the moment
[21:40] <Drufle> lemme pastebin all this