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- Funnest convo this year
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- Channel ID: -74199726
- Channel Name: Private Chat (I Want ISK)
- Listener: Winet
- Session started: 2015.12.14 05:51:13
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- [ 2015.12.14 05:51:16 ] I Want ISK > o/
- [ 2015.12.14 05:51:16 ] Winet > whats up
- [ 2015.12.14 05:51:20 ] I Want ISK > How are you today?
- [ 2015.12.14 05:51:25 ] Winet > not to bad yourself
- [ 2015.12.14 05:51:41 ] I Want ISK > I have an issuwe with a banker of mine that has been scammed by SMA for about 120 b and a friend that was scammed for 25b +-
- [ 2015.12.14 05:51:47 ] I Want ISK > I am doing ok ;)
- [ 2015.12.14 05:51:53 ] I Want ISK > still with an ulcer but fighting it.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:51:59 ] Winet > arg i hate them
- [ 2015.12.14 05:52:09 ] Winet > had to have a operation to get rid of mine
- [ 2015.12.14 05:52:19 ] I Want ISK > The persons in question are Paul Woods and DustinHF are these the same people?
- [ 2015.12.14 05:52:26 ] Winet > no 2 dif ppl
- [ 2015.12.14 05:52:28 ] I Want ISK > I have had it for 2 or 3 years now =\\
- [ 2015.12.14 05:52:33 ] I Want ISK > trying to do herbs and medicine
- [ 2015.12.14 05:52:33 ] Winet > from what our diplos have uncovered
- [ 2015.12.14 05:52:40 ] I Want ISK > it works but takes a while. Got rif og it once.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:52:42 ] I Want ISK > of*
- [ 2015.12.14 05:52:47 ] I Want ISK > one sec I will invite one of them
- [ 2015.12.14 05:52:51 ] Winet > no need
- [ 2015.12.14 05:53:03 ] Winet > im well upto date with whats going on
- [ 2015.12.14 05:53:04 ] I Want ISK > oh too late =\
- [ 2015.12.14 05:53:14 ] I Want ISK > Well at least this way defenses can arise from both sites
- [ 2015.12.14 05:53:17 ] I Want ISK > sides*
- [ 2015.12.14 05:53:23 ] DustinHF > o/
- [ 2015.12.14 05:53:26 ] Winet > sup dustin
- [ 2015.12.14 05:53:30 ] DustinHF > sup
- [ 2015.12.14 05:53:33 ] I Want ISK > now, we had a person go into the SMA back end and acquire all APIs, including Paul woods' alt APIs
- [ 2015.12.14 05:54:09 ] I Want ISK > We created a spreadsheet to automatically detect inconsitencies and there is only about a 300m inconsistency in paul woods' operations.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:54:34 ] Winet > the issue with back end apis is they only draw transactions from the last month
- [ 2015.12.14 05:54:35 ] I Want ISK > Including stockppiled goo, unofficial withdrawals, and purchases.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:54:48 ] Winet > or as far as the api can pull which is about 2500 entries
- [ 2015.12.14 05:54:58 ] I Want ISK > Gotcha. I have also used my analytical skills to cross examine paul woods and his replies.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:55:05 ] I Want ISK > At first they came off as inconsistent
- [ 2015.12.14 05:55:13 ] Winet > as far as paul woods and dustin are concerned its a corp matter
- [ 2015.12.14 05:55:16 ] I Want ISK > but I think it was him being nervous. He seemed to not be lying about taking anything.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:55:28 ] I Want ISK > I agree, except paul woods has lost his banking ISK
- [ 2015.12.14 05:55:30 ] I Want ISK > and it affects me.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:55:33 ] Winet > Noobz no longer wanted them in noobz after they did some analytical thing
- [ 2015.12.14 05:55:43 ] I Want ISK > As I have to either hire and train another banker or support the ISK he lost.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:55:48 ] I Want ISK > Gotcha.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:55:52 ] Winet > and their evidence is 250ish bil is missing from corp assets
- [ 2015.12.14 05:55:57 ] I Want ISK > Ok, well i have been trying to reach SMA leadership.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:56:03 ] I Want ISK > hmm
- [ 2015.12.14 05:56:09 ] I Want ISK > That is a lot of ISK!
- [ 2015.12.14 05:56:09 ] DustinHF > 250B wait
- [ 2015.12.14 05:56:13 ] Winet > so i take both on the faith of each other after seeing the isk lost
- [ 2015.12.14 05:56:18 ] DustinHF > first you guys told us it was 15B missing
- [ 2015.12.14 05:56:19 ] Winet > i cant say it happened or it didnt happen
- [ 2015.12.14 05:56:27 ] I Want ISK > I agree. But there is a chance it didn't.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:56:32 ] Winet > and a chance it did
- [ 2015.12.14 05:56:40 ] Winet > thats why its down to what the corp chose to do
- [ 2015.12.14 05:56:43 ] I Want ISK > from our research, also looking into his banker API, he did not acquire random amounts of ISK from random locations
- [ 2015.12.14 05:56:50 ] I Want ISK > his 1.5 years of work reflect that he earned all of his ISK.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:57:01 ] I Want ISK > Well, let me get to the point.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:57:08 ] Winet > which was to eject both and their alts and any cancer they considered a threat to their corp
- [ 2015.12.14 05:57:09 ] I Want ISK > As I have to eat soon ;)
- [ 2015.12.14 05:57:21 ] I Want ISK > Right, without question or analyzation
- [ 2015.12.14 05:57:28 ] I Want ISK > inclduging innocent people (possibly)
- [ 2015.12.14 05:57:38 ] I Want ISK > SMA has also scammed another banker of mine in the past.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:57:41 ] I Want ISK > Admiral Taylor
- [ 2015.12.14 05:57:49 ] Winet > ok lets put this to ebd
- [ 2015.12.14 05:57:50 ] Winet > *bed
- [ 2015.12.14 05:57:52 ] I Want ISK > simply because he wanted to leave, they took his assets by saying "give them to me, I will ship them to jita"
- [ 2015.12.14 05:57:54 ] Winet > SMA has not scammed any1
- [ 2015.12.14 05:57:55 ] I Want ISK > then keeping them
- [ 2015.12.14 05:58:03 ] I Want ISK > Actually that is incorrect
- [ 2015.12.14 05:58:09 ] I Want ISK > I have undeniable proof and confessions that they did
- [ 2015.12.14 05:58:13 ] Winet > SMA is the alliance
- [ 2015.12.14 05:58:23 ] Winet > and as a member of alliance leadership we have not scammed anyone
- [ 2015.12.14 05:58:24 ] I Want ISK > True.
- [ 2015.12.14 05:58:28 ] I Want ISK > Maybe not SMA as a whole
- [ 2015.12.14 05:58:30 ] I Want ISK > but leadership of SMA
- [ 2015.12.14 05:58:36 ] I Want ISK > which reflects on the users at some point
- [ 2015.12.14 05:58:48 ] I Want ISK > Well, I know that leadership did indeed scam admiral taylor
- [ 2015.12.14 05:58:49 ] I Want ISK > and this is a fact
- [ 2015.12.14 05:58:56 ] Winet > who may i ask
- [ 2015.12.14 05:58:58 ] I Want ISK > Funny thing is SMA was scammed right after for that same amount
- [ 2015.12.14 05:59:20 ] I Want ISK > Admiral Taylor was scammed under leadership of Widget Zombie. I forgot the pawn they used to create the scam
- [ 2015.12.14 05:59:24 ] I Want ISK > Well anyawy,
- [ 2015.12.14 05:59:38 ] Winet > isnt widget zombie affiliated with i want isk?
- [ 2015.12.14 05:59:51 ] Winet > so if we go by your theory i want isk scammed the same person :p
- [ 2015.12.14 06:00:04 ] Winet > now to the point of the assets
- [ 2015.12.14 06:00:12 ] I Want ISK > Affiliated? no. Worked for? yes.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:00:17 ] I Want ISK > Correct
- [ 2015.12.14 06:00:20 ] Winet > SMA leadership didnt scam any1
- [ 2015.12.14 06:00:32 ] Winet > members within SMA may have and lets be honest here its eve
- [ 2015.12.14 06:00:35 ] I Want ISK > Regardless of scam.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:00:35 ] DustinHF > Winet so if you guys didnt scam then why was my nyx taken for the reason that, you couldnt provide any proof just words that paul woods apparently stole ?
- [ 2015.12.14 06:00:43 ] Winet > if you give 120 bil of stuff to someone you take tht risk
- [ 2015.12.14 06:00:44 ] I Want ISK > some assets were taken from someone and leadership has the control to rectify it.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:00:53 ] I Want ISK > Well the risk is here now.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:01:08 ] Winet > leadership of SMA does not involve itself in corp matters unless a ceo requests it
- [ 2015.12.14 06:01:09 ] I Want ISK > I would like SMA to return 130b to Paul Woods and 30b to DustinHF
- [ 2015.12.14 06:01:19 ] I Want ISK > Better phreased:
- [ 2015.12.14 06:01:22 ] Winet > and noobz would like 250 bil returned to them
- [ 2015.12.14 06:01:31 ] I Want ISK > I would like SMA to correct what happend under it's leadership.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:01:44 ] I Want ISK > I am sure they would, however, they need better proof of that missing amount
- [ 2015.12.14 06:01:49 ] Winet > it kills me because i actually wanted to bank for you however
- [ 2015.12.14 06:01:53 ] I Want ISK > I mean 100% proof.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:01:55 ] Winet > SMA leadership has no control
- [ 2015.12.14 06:02:02 ] I Want ISK > I am sure they do.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:02:06 ] I Want ISK > I fnot, that is pretty bad
- [ 2015.12.14 06:02:08 ] Winet > over what its members do with neutral or reds items
- [ 2015.12.14 06:02:24 ] Winet > if the person was blue its entirly a dif story
- [ 2015.12.14 06:02:28 ] DustinHF > Winet you were the one who banned me on ts after i did absolutely nothing.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:02:29 ] I Want ISK > Anyway, the demands are in. I would rather not make it a threat but I assure you that I have a lot of influence in SMA.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:02:44 ] Winet > now see you gone and done
- [ 2015.12.14 06:02:45 ] Winet > it
- [ 2015.12.14 06:02:56 ] I Want ISK > That sentence...
- [ 2015.12.14 06:03:00 ] I Want ISK > What did I do?
- [ 2015.12.14 06:03:11 ] Winet > there is no other way to take that then a threat :p
- [ 2015.12.14 06:03:17 ] Winet > and i really dont respond to threats
- [ 2015.12.14 06:03:24 ] I Want ISK > Than*
- [ 2015.12.14 06:03:27 ] I Want ISK > Than a threat.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:03:29 ] I Want ISK > And it might be.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:03:29 ] Winet > they are like ultimatums
- [ 2015.12.14 06:03:35 ] I Want ISK > I tried hard not to make it sound that way.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:03:39 ] Winet > for children and ppl bad at arguements
- [ 2015.12.14 06:03:42 ] I Want ISK > Decisions in life are ultimatums I agree.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:03:52 ] Winet > Paul Woods and Dustin are no longer in SMA due to corp issues
- [ 2015.12.14 06:03:53 ] I Want ISK > Well, let me complete the threat then
- [ 2015.12.14 06:04:03 ] I Want ISK > When Widget Zombie and Doctor Chin came into IWI they did great work for me
- [ 2015.12.14 06:04:07 ] Winet > assets belonging to them should have stayed in their hands if they didnt want the risk
- [ 2015.12.14 06:04:09 ] I Want ISK > so I gave them shares in IWI
- [ 2015.12.14 06:04:12 ] DustinHF > Winet which those issues were not addressed nor evidence was shown
- [ 2015.12.14 06:04:16 ] I Want ISK > these shares came with an option to buy back
- [ 2015.12.14 06:04:26 ] Winet > thats between you and them
- [ 2015.12.14 06:04:42 ] Winet > i have no say over Dr Chin or Widget in that regards and neither does SMA leadership
- [ 2015.12.14 06:04:48 ] I Want ISK > These shares will be bought back from these members and the funds generated will be used to constantly hire mercenaries to attack anyone related to SMA
- [ 2015.12.14 06:04:56 ] Winet > which is fine
- [ 2015.12.14 06:05:03 ] Winet > we live in null sec
- [ 2015.12.14 06:05:06 ] I Want ISK > And since you were not professional and said "now you gone and done it"
- [ 2015.12.14 06:05:17 ] Winet > http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Fade/E9KD-N
- [ 2015.12.14 06:05:19 ] I Want ISK > I will make it an attack on you and EXPCS Corp
- [ 2015.12.14 06:05:22 ] Winet > which is where we live
- [ 2015.12.14 06:05:31 ] Winet > feel free to send anyone you wish
- [ 2015.12.14 06:05:41 ] I Want ISK > It wont just be anyone ;) I will make it an event on IWI
- [ 2015.12.14 06:05:46 ] I Want ISK > giveaways for kills on SMA
- [ 2015.12.14 06:05:57 ] I Want ISK > I suggest you gather better diplokmatics than you
- [ 2015.12.14 06:05:58 ] Winet > and next time when your talking with someone maybe just maybe dont come into it with a threat because until then
- [ 2015.12.14 06:06:03 ] I Want ISK > you are not handling this well and don't understand how bad it can get.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:06:05 ] Winet > we were having a reasonable discussion
- [ 2015.12.14 06:06:06 ] I Want ISK > You're
- [ 2015.12.14 06:06:15 ] DustinHF > Winet you have no idea how powerful i want isk is
- [ 2015.12.14 06:06:27 ] Winet > nor do i care to be threatened or blackmailed
- [ 2015.12.14 06:06:31 ] I Want ISK > I want to have a reasonable discussion
- [ 2015.12.14 06:06:35 ] Winet > as do i
- [ 2015.12.14 06:06:36 ] I Want ISK > can you please bring other leadership in here?
- [ 2015.12.14 06:06:44 ] Winet > no the answer will be the same
- [ 2015.12.14 06:06:45 ] I Want ISK > I would rather deal with someone that knows that SMA has control.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:06:53 ] I Want ISK > Well, if I hear it from them it becomes more official
- [ 2015.12.14 06:07:03 ] I Want ISK > and I would finally have something to do in EVE
- [ 2015.12.14 06:07:08 ] I Want ISK > now that SMA has scammed 3 of my friends.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:07:14 ] Winet > no need im a SMA director and have full authority to speak on behalf of SMA in all ways
- [ 2015.12.14 06:07:22 ] Winet > your threats are laughable at best
- [ 2015.12.14 06:07:30 ] I Want ISK > I love making people laugh.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:07:32 ] I Want ISK > but I am serious
- [ 2015.12.14 06:07:33 ] Winet > paul woods and dustin were removed from SMA by their corp
- [ 2015.12.14 06:07:35 ] DustinHF > alot of my isk came from IWI and eep can confirm this
- [ 2015.12.14 06:07:42 ] Winet > that is a corp issue not a SMA one
- [ 2015.12.14 06:07:54 ] I Want ISK > What corp?
- [ 2015.12.14 06:08:18 ] Winet > Noobz
- [ 2015.12.14 06:08:33 ] I Want ISK > One second.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:08:51 ] I Want ISK > Checking up on corp.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:09:09 ] Winet > Internet Terrorists
- [ 2015.12.14 06:09:55 ] I Want ISK > You say that you have no control
- [ 2015.12.14 06:09:59 ] I Want ISK > yet they have control over you?
- [ 2015.12.14 06:10:07 ] I Want ISK > enough to convince you that a particular person or two were scamming them?
- [ 2015.12.14 06:10:09 ] Winet > no i said we dont interfear in corp issues unless requested
- [ 2015.12.14 06:10:15 ] I Want ISK > And you don't have the ability to convince them to give it back?
- [ 2015.12.14 06:10:19 ] I Want ISK > Gotcha.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:10:23 ] I Want ISK > I suggest this is looked into.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:10:28 ] Winet > the evidence they have gathered suggests paul stole 250 billion isk from them over time
- [ 2015.12.14 06:10:30 ] Winet > give or take
- [ 2015.12.14 06:10:31 ] I Want ISK > I have many connections with alliances that are bored right now.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:10:36 ] Winet > i dont care
- [ 2015.12.14 06:10:46 ] I Want ISK > I will make it a "Kill SMA for promo ISK" event
- [ 2015.12.14 06:10:47 ] DustinHF > Winet and were do i fit in i didnt take nothing i didnt have pos rights
- [ 2015.12.14 06:10:50 ] Winet > threats will do nothing here as it breaks down a civil discuyssion
- [ 2015.12.14 06:10:53 ] I Want ISK > actually I kinda want you not to get them to give it back lol
- [ 2015.12.14 06:11:06 ] I Want ISK > I make 300b a day.
- [ 2015.12.14 06:11:07 ] Winet > well you have made your argument i have made mine
- [ 2015.12.14 06:11:11 ] I Want ISK > I am sure I can finally put that somewhere =]
- [ 2015.12.14 06:11:14 ] Winet > good luck with your event
- [ 2015.12.14 06:11:17 ] I Want ISK > So the answer is no?
- [ 2015.12.14 06:11:18 ] Winet > o/
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