05:53	fightergirlx	AbuHassaan: can you wish others happy new year even if you dont celebrate it?
05:53	AbuHassaan	no
05:54	AbuHassaan	do not participate or show happiness in the false celebrations of the kuffar
05:54	AbuHassaan	this is a type of agreeing with thier falsehood
05:55	fightergirlx	un..new year is not about jesus
05:56	fightergirlx	its not about the kuffar prolly
05:56	fightergirlx	its fun because it is a NEW YEAR
05:56	fightergirlx	we cant say happy new year?
05:57	ILoveIslam	i say happy new year not because religions but because its true 2015 start
05:57	AbuHassaan	no
05:58	AbuHassaan	the prophet peace be upon him forbade immitating the kuffar
05:58	AbuHassaan	this includes thier celebrations
05:58	AbuHassaan	from every angle it is not allowed
05:59	AbuHassaan	the muslims have only two celebrations, ... i.e. the two eids
05:59	AbuHassaan	thats it
05:59	AbuHassaan	this is why the mawlid isnt allowed as well
05:59	AbuHassaan	its an extra eid/celebration
05:59	fightergirlx	un... but birthdays are excluded prolly
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06:00	AbuHassaan	it is the same
06:00	fightergirlx	no happy birthday as well?
06:00	AbuHassaan	yearly celebrations r eids
06:00	AbuHassaan	we dont make guess fightergirlx
06:00	AbuHassaan	we speak with knowledge
06:00	AbuHassaan	not guesses
06:00	AbuHassaan	the prophet peace be upon him never celebrated it
06:00	fightergirlx	you don't say happy birthday as well?
06:00	AbuHassaan	neither did anyone from the best of the generation of the muslims i.e. the first 3 generations
06:00	fightergirlx	o_O i didnt know
06:01	AbuHassaan	and it is thier path that Allah told us to follow
06:01	AbuHassaan	so if they didnt do it, then we dont either
06:01	AbuHassaan	these r the practice of the kuffar
06:01	AbuHassaan	not the muslims
06:01	AbuHassaan	it is only later that such practices crept in
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06:02	AbuHassaan	and now it has become to so common that if anyone speaks against these things, it sounds strange
06:02	AbuHassaan	and this is because the ppl have gone so far away from teh sunnah
06:03	fightergirlx	it is not fun if we are sad and not celebrate birthdays
06:03	AbuHassaan	u shud train urself to love ur deen and practice as it was actually practiced
06:04	AbuHassaan	The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "Whoever imitates a people is one of them." [Narrated by Abu Dawood, 3512; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Irwa� al-Ghaleel, 2691]
06:05	AbuHassaan	so shun such practices that were not found at that time
06:05	AbuHassaan	as Imam Malik said: that which rectified the first part of the Ummah, is what will rectify its last part
06:05	fightergirlx	AbuHassaan: the muslims use internet and computers that are inventions of kafir
06:06	fightergirlx	why use them?
06:06	AbuHassaan	u misunderstand the word innovation here
06:07	AbuHassaan	it means innovations in deen are to be avoided, not innovations in the dunya
06:07	AbuHassaan	innovations in teh dunya are permissible
06:07	AbuHassaan	its innovations in teh deen that the prophet peace be upon him warned against
06:07	fightergirlx	why you think the celebration is deen? cant it be celebration in dunya?
06:08	AbuHassaan	i explained it from the angle of imitation to you
06:08	fightergirlx	un..
06:08	AbuHassaan	and then i told u, its forbidden from every angle
06:08	AbuHassaan	u cant get around it
06:08	AbuHassaan	i gave u the hadith above
06:12	AbuHassaan	im going to sleep now. tc
06:12	AbuHassaan	salam alaikum
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