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Damac1214
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  1. [11/19/14, 8:18:18 PM] Tyson Matsuki: Welcome. I am your moderator Tyson Matsuki. (lol not really)
  2. [11/19/14, 8:18:30 PM] drift0r: hello
  3. [11/19/14, 8:18:33 PM] drift0r: what is up?
  4. [11/19/14, 8:18:40 PM] Tyson Matsuki: Brad, this is Andrew, or Damac from the Wiki.
  5. [11/19/14, 8:18:51 PM] Tyson Matsuki: I'l llet him explain what's going on.
  6. [11/19/14, 8:19:47 PM] Andrew McInerney: Hey there
  7. [11/19/14, 8:19:55 PM] Andrew McInerney: Anyway
  8. [11/19/14, 8:22:22 PM] Andrew McInerney: So Drift0r I don't mean to be rude or offending at all, but I'm an admin on the Call of Duty Wiki and I run the Twitter account. I'm not very active anymore but the other day a fellow admin brought to my attention that in a couple of your videos you claimed we had misinformation in our articles, specifically your videos on the AK12 and the HBRa3. The user in question checked the pages as well as the edit history and found that not only was said misinformation not present on the articles it wasn't present in the history
  9. [11/19/14, 8:23:49 PM] drift0r: let me see if I can find what it was...
  10. [11/19/14, 8:23:49 PM] Andrew McInerney: I'm really not looking to make this much of a big deal as it really isn't, but I and the other user don't really appreciate you giving us a bad rap and I was just wondering why you mentioned said issues?
  11. [11/19/14, 8:24:33 PM] Andrew McInerney: Thank you. And I'm not really mad or upset or anything. More just curious as to the reason, perhaps it was just a misunderstanding
  12. [11/19/14, 8:25:09 PM] drift0r: HBRa3 page is kinda messed up
  13. [11/19/14, 8:25:12 PM] drift0r: damage numbers are wrong
  14. [11/19/14, 8:25:28 PM] drift0r: and this paragraph:
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  16. "The weapon has the best handling of the Assault Rifle category, giving it slightly better hip-fire spread, however it is still nothing special, and not one of the Assault Rifles strong suits making the Laser Sight an optional choice, but greatly useful if using the weapon in close quarters often. "
  17. [11/19/14, 8:25:31 PM] drift0r: is all nonsense
  18. [11/19/14, 8:27:37 PM] Andrew McInerney: Mm the wording could use some correction and the laser sight but is opinionated and should be removed per our policies, but the rest seems fine too me
  19. [11/19/14, 8:28:14 PM] Andrew McInerney: I can't speak to the damage numbers though. I don't know how to find them or what the source for them would be. That kind of stuff has never really been my thing on the wiki
  20. [11/19/14, 8:28:49 PM] drift0r: damage is incorrect
  21. [11/19/14, 8:29:00 PM] drift0r: the thing about having better handling and better hip fire spread is also incorrect
  22. [11/19/14, 8:29:37 PM] drift0r: ALL in game stat bars are completely incorrect and made up
  23. [11/19/14, 8:30:04 PM] drift0r: Handling does refer to hip fire spread but only for variant weapons. Same classes all have the same hip fire spread. And it is very tiny differences there as well.
  24. [11/19/14, 8:31:47 PM] Andrew McInerney: Mmm okay
  25. [11/19/14, 8:31:58 PM] Andrew McInerney: Out of curiosity where do you get the damage stats from?
  26. [11/19/14, 8:32:11 PM] Andrew McInerney: I believe you on the handling/hip fire bits
  27. [11/19/14, 8:34:32 PM] drift0r: I hand test them all
  28. [11/19/14, 8:34:41 PM] drift0r: the code cracking is badly delayed this year
  29. [11/19/14, 8:34:58 PM] drift0r: damage is 40-24
  30. [11/19/14, 8:35:16 PM] Andrew McInerney: Ah I gotcha
  31. [11/19/14, 8:39:13 PM] Andrew McInerney: I hate to bother you by asking for specifics but how do you go about testing them? I asked the fellow admin I mentioned earlier how we came to the stats we are listing and he's telling me it's basically a matter of knowing how much damage=how many shots. For example, he told me if its a 3 shot kill damage could be anywhere between 34 and 49, and since he also acknowledges we have to rely on hand tests and not coding, there's not much else to go on
  32. [11/19/14, 8:39:37 PM] Andrew McInerney: Sorry if that was a bit long winded, but basically how do you go about a hand test and assign a numerical value
  33. [11/19/14, 8:45:30 PM] Andrew McInerney: As I told you this isn't really my role on the wiki. I really just do the social media stuff, organization, zombie pages, and the like but I'd rather know how we can improve our pages to avoid any further information issues
  34. [11/19/14, 9:18:53 PM] Andrew McInerney: Hey so I guess I just found out you had a stream or something, that's cool. I understand the lack of replies. Just wanted to make it clear that the issue here wasn't so much about "who was right and who was wrong" but more just we'd appreciate it if you don't give us a bad name in your videos anymore. We are a wiki that can be edited by anyone, at anytime, as new info becomes available. We can change to reflect accurate information, but your videos can't. Sure you could leave a note in your video description saying "CoD wiki has since updated" but I don't expect you too nor want you too, it's a lot of work and I understand you're a busy guy. I'd just really appreciate it if you lay off the wiki in your videos. A lot of people volunteer a lot of their time to make the wiki the best it can be, and while we may slip up a bit, we really don't need someone like yourself bad mouthing us to 100,000 viewers.
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  36. Again, thank you for speaking with me. let me just emphasize this whole conversation was brought up mostly out of concern. I, nor anyone on the wiki, are at all angry or upset with you, and I hope you don't feel upset or annoyed by any of this. Hope all goes well in your stream and future projects. Have a nice day!
  37. [11/20/14, 12:11:16 AM] drift0r: Sorry, I was streaming.
  38. [11/20/14, 12:11:27 AM] drift0r: I have a method for testing the guns, but it is VERY slow and meticulous.
  39. [11/20/14, 12:11:33 AM] drift0r: Stun grenade explosions deal 1 damage.
  40. [11/20/14, 12:12:02 AM] drift0r: If you turn of health regen you can shoot people and then throw stuns at them until they die. Then you will get exact damage and ranges.
  41. [11/20/14, 12:12:33 AM] drift0r: I will refrain from badmouthing the wiki.
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  43. It comes from when I give advice on something my fans contradict me saying the wiki has other information.
  44. [11/20/14, 12:15:26 AM] Andrew McInerney: No problem, totally understand you were streaming. And thank you, I can get the frustration with someone telling you you're wrong, but also thank you for agreeing to refrain from badmouthing in the future. I'll let the user know
  45. [11/20/14, 12:15:33 AM] Andrew McInerney: Hope you had a good stream!
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