T3hJackal 2 points 43 minutes ago*
As a member hearing this is upsetting. As members we are also not told certain other things that we don't need to know at this time. That's politics and life in general...However at the same time there is two sides to every story. As we have ours and we should trust it, just like any justice system they have theirs as well. They had reasons. They did what they did. It's over. If fiddle planned to jack shit from us, he can go fuck himself. That's wrong on any level.
I think for now until things calm down and to prevent further issues within our members and to show our support to Yeti and all that he has done for us, that apathy should not be allowed on J3B fleets or comms. All things get better over time. And it always gets worse before it does. With that being said Lament and crew have always treated me with respect and helped me out on some personal stuff in rl. So I shall treat him and anyone else how they treat me.
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[–]TehBenju 1 point 19 minutes ago
it has already been a full month, do we need to keep them out of comms/fleets longer than that?
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[–][J3B] Aaron 'Steak Sauce' Zamayidegtownsend 1 point 9 minutes ago
They did kind of accuse of being super elitist for being on our private comms and reminded us that we have a channel in Brave mumble. If they felt so strongly about it... should we simply forget that?
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[–]Kadira [J3B Sperg-master Propaganda General]raven12456 1 point an hour ago
They can eat an overflowing pile of dicks.
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[–]TehBenju 1 point an hour ago
can i get a clear once and for all: Are we treating them as blues within our comms and fleets?
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[–]Ziggles [J3B Director]BlameReligion 3 points an hour ago
Yes. We still need to treat them as blues. It was a shitty situation all around, but we still need to take the high road.
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[–]Vendroikenthe_stabologist 2 points 10 minutes ago
Not gonna happen. I have 'em -10, and if they cross my Overview I will drop everything and apply my knives at full force simultaneously in their pussy, ass and mouth.
We've been dicked around by everyone from TEST to Nulli to Brave. There's only so much a player can take before snapping and taking the consequences of their actions to an extreme just for release.
High roads are for chumps. Talk shit, get hit.
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[–]Kelnon [J3B CEO]Kelnon 1 point an hour ago
Yes. They are blue. That said, we've asked them politely to not idle in comms here unless they are on a fleet.
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[–]Iakopo Nara [J3B]Iakopo_Nara 1 point 32 minutes ago
I see no reason to not treat them as blues we are in the same alliance/coalition regardless of what happens. This was more or less for closure I believe.
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[–]Heldo_Yvormes [J3B]Heldo_Yvormes 1 point 14 minutes ago
Welp that's settled then...I guess.
Still don't like the whole situation, and I'll just continue to keep my opinions about apathy to myself.
Time to move on.
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[–]Iakopo Nara [J3B]Iakopo_Nara 1 point 9 minutes ago
Does this explain reasoning why Impala wanted to do his own thing and doesn't hang out in our comms and such anymore as well?
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[–]Andvari Ishtar [Bearded Battlebeagle]Andvari_Ishtar -3 points an hour ago*
With all due respect, THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT.
These Apathy LLC fucks spread lies about Yeti, spread shit about our corp, and have approached several of our members on Skype trying to poach them. These fucks stressed Yeti out and made him almost quit the game. These fucks were allowed to form a splinter corp because they're friends with Anna and Lquid, and we're not.
And this is all okay? We're just going to all sit back and say “OH WELL IT'S FINE GUYS LOL.” We're all going to pretend these Apathy guys are our friends and don't mean us any harm? Despite the fact that Xenos harassed me when I tried to report their shit to leadership and got away with it? Despite the fact that Xenos is still spreading shit about our corp?
These fucks have absolutely no business being in our comms, in our fleets, or even in JewBears in game. They aren't our goddamn friends. They fucking made these accusations and stirred shit without any regard of how it would effect us or Yeti, for their own fucking benefit. Not because they felt they had to, not because their supers were at risk, but because they're selfish fucks. And if any of y'all think that isn't a big deal, that's really fucking sad and you should be ashamed of yourselves. Yeti is our friend and director, and he has been a director in this corp for... what, two years? He's also incredibly nice and gentle and has been super stressed out about this shit.
We've very clearly been shown the door, let's try going somewhere were we won't be treated like shit. Because despite everything we've done for this alliance, we are very clearly not appreciated at all. Allowing Apathy to stay in BRAVE is a blatant insult.
EDIT: TEST is recruiting.
EDIT2: Actually fuck that, let's leave this coalition entirely.
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[–]Praal [J3B] Tower Directortank-n-spank 3 points 45 minutes ago
let's try going somewhere were we won't be treated like shit
When you are dealing with groups of thousands of players there will always be those whose motivations, methods or actions are distasteful. The grass is always greener from the other side, and alliances are a lot more cohesive and awesome seen from the outside.
EDIT: TEST is recruiting.
You should open our corp info and look at the Alliance History tab. Those entries are as they are for good reasons, ones that those of us who have been in the corp earlier on experienced first hand.
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[–]Andvari Ishtar [Bearded Battlebeagle]Andvari_Ishtar 1 point 43 minutes ago*
I am well aware J3B was part of old TEST. TEST has actually improved a lot since then.
As for the grass is greener... BRAVE leadership has made it very plain that they value liars and cheats like Lament and co. better than our entire corp. That's fine, we'll go somewhere else. They can have Lament (until they leave for another alliance .DIX. style) and we can be proud knowing that we decided to stand up for our corp and director and act like men rather than like dogs licking the boots of a cruel master.
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[–]Kelnon [J3B CEO]Kelnon 4 points 29 minutes ago
With all due respect, THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT.
No, it isn't. It's just not what you wanted to hear.
These Apathy LLC fucks spread lies about Yeti
Those rumors hit the intel networks 8 months ago. By the time they acted on them, they had been circulated for quite a while.
spread shit about our corp
They assumed leadership knew while assuming those rumors were true.
and have approached several of our members on Skype trying to poach them.
This is true.
These fucks stressed Yeti out and made him almost quit the game.
Every leadership person in our corp short of praal gets accused of being a spy. Regularly.
These fucks were allowed to form a splinter corp because they're friends with Anna and Lquid, and we're not.
They were allowed a corp because everyone with a titan can request their own holding corp to manage the pos. What they did with it is a different story, but the why they have a corp is accurate.
And this is all okay? We're just going to all sit back and say “OH WELL IT'S FINE GUYS LOL.” We're all going to pretend these Apathy guys are our friends and don't mean us any harm? Despite the fact that Xenos harassed me when I tried to report their shit to leadership and got away with it? Despite the fact that Xenos is still spreading shit about our corp?
You were not involved in the leadership talks. I'm glad you assume that nothing was done about anything, I'm glad to know that the conversations I had and working on you issues were meaningless. Just because x3n0s was not kicked does not mean nothing was done.
These fucks have absolutely no business being in our comms, in our fleets, or even in JewBears in game. They aren't our goddamn friends.
We have kicked people with less rumors about someone being a spy than they came at Yeti with.
They fucking made these accusations and stirred shit without any regard of how it would effect us or Yeti, for their own fucking benefit.
And unless they were planning this before they joined, they were not the originators of the rumor.
Not because they felt they had to, not because their supers were at risk, but because they're selfish fucks.
Why they chose to act can be debated about two dozen ways.
And if any of y'all think that isn't a big deal, that's really fucking sad and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
I guess it's a good thing nothing was acted upon. Oh wait...
Yeti is our friend and director, and he has been a director in this corp for... what, two years? He's also incredibly nice and gentle and has been super stressed out about this shit.
He got hit with the same bullshit accusations most of us in leadership take. It hit him hard, which sucks, but it's normal when you're in a leadership position in a strong corp.
We've very clearly been shown the door, let's try going somewhere were we won't be treated like shit.
No, we haven't. Things didn't go 100% the way we would want, but this was heavily handled.
Because despite everything we've done for this alliance, we are very clearly not appreciated at all.
Except, Yeti's name was cleared and Lament among others offered to apologize to Yeti. At which point he quit.
Allowing Apathy to stay in BRAVE is a blatant insult.
No, it isn't. It's being part of a massive coalition. There are times where bullshit happens and people move on.
EDIT: TEST is recruiting.
On the Test top 10 things they hate about brave post from the cesspit, J3B was the only corp named besides BNI and it was listed heavily. So we would be leaving a place we are well liked to a place we are well hated.
EDIT2: Actually fuck that, let's leave this coalition entirely.
You haven't been in many coalitions then - this level of bullshit drama is pretty normal.
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[–]Kadira [J3B Sperg-master Propaganda General]raven12456 1 point just now
Every leadership person in our corp short of praal gets accused of being a spy. Regularly.
I've always suspected Praal...Never trust the guy with the keys to the Death Star...its inhuman the way he takes care of so many towers. He can't be anything but a collection of no less than 8 midgits working on rotating schedules.