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2015-03-02 00:00:09 < Chillance> oh, cool. so, finally some guys one can trust there right?
2015-03-02 02:26:31 <@midnightmagic> Except he thinks the Foundation is in control of bitcoin development and thinks it so hard he argued about it. And he can't articulate what he means when he says he wants to decentralize bitcoin development. And I have no idea what he means by it, because bitcoin development is already decentralized.
2015-03-02 02:27:11 < Dr-G2> back when he wanted to overtake the foundation in the first place they still had the politics and regulation shit
2015-03-02 02:27:19 < Dr-G2> they dropped it in november to focus on development
2015-03-02 02:27:29 <@midnightmagic> What does that have to do with bitcoin-core development? lol
2015-03-02 02:27:56 < Dr-G2> he just still hates the foundation, ever since the shady past
2015-03-02 02:28:43 <@midnightmagic> right, so why is he involving the bitcoin-core developers in that? Is he saying he wants to end the salaries of the three (or more?) bitcoin-core developers they currently pay?
2015-03-02 02:29:56 <@midnightmagic> And if so, why? wumpus isn't an autocrat, Cory is doing extremely important work that nobody else wants to do, and Gavin is Gavin.
2015-03-02 02:31:06 <@midnightmagic> He *seems* to think bitcoin-core is a 100% foundation thing, but that's 100% incorrect.
2015-03-02 02:33:10 < Dr-G2> but the foundation is focusing only on the dev of the core now
2015-03-02 02:33:32 < Dr-G2> so no marketing, education and other stuff I'm not sure he got the memo on that :p
2015-03-02 02:34:44 <@midnightmagic> aside from funding.. like maybe three.. of the developers, it has zero control over the direction of development.
2015-03-02 02:36:34 <@midnightmagic> there's even this weird blog the foundation hosts that *looks* like it represents all the developers but ask them if they even know who writes it, or if any of them agree that the voice speaks for them.
2015-03-02 02:37:31 < Dr-G2> lol ok weird
2015-03-02 02:38:45 <@midnightmagic> it's completely absurd. thus, when buddy here says his platform is to decentralize bitcoin-core development, either he's pandering to a small but vocal minority of users who have a weird axe to grind with (e.g.) Luke-Jr, or he literally doesn't know what he's talking about and he pulled it directly from his nethers
2015-03-02 02:41:23 <@midnightmagic> meanwhile, why put that kind of stress on wumpus and cory? they're kind, gentle people.
2015-03-02 02:41:32 <@midnightmagic> or whoever it is they're actually paying.
2015-03-02 02:42:57 < Dr-G3> I just hope that everyone will work together, don't need more useless drama
2015-03-02 02:44:07 <@midnightmagic> drama is politics. politics won't go away until people's sense of a lack of agency goes away, but nobody's willing to do the work necessary to fix it. all they want to do is bitch and moan from the comfort of their easy chairs.
2015-03-02 04:19:43 < nanotube> midnightmagic: well, fwiw, i do think he has the best interests of bitcoin in mind. if he has misapprehensions about how some things work, i'm sure they'll be corrected in due time once he sees first hand how things are, assuming they are.
2015-03-02 04:21:34 < nanotube> so don't worry, misinformation is easier to fix than bad intent, and in this case i am pretty sure we don't have a case of the latter.
2015-03-02 09:03:27 <@midnightmagic> nanotube: I too would prefer and assign greater probability to door #2.
2015-03-02 10:11:34 < shroff> I'm trolling laoban but he doesn't know it yet
2015-03-02 10:13:09 < nobodybeatsthewi> touche
2015-03-02 10:13:27 < laoban> too many letters, got cut off
2015-03-02 10:14:02 < shroff> you shroffed yourself
2015-03-02 10:14:09 < Wiz> oh well
2015-03-02 10:15:41 < wiz> i heard a rumor that mtgox is bankrupt
2015-03-02 10:18:07 < Tiraspol> John Betts hacked gox?
2015-03-02 10:18:25 < Tiraspol> damn room full of trolls
2015-03-02 10:18:48 < johnbetts> Now Tiraspol
2015-03-02 10:19:43 < wiz> i dunno why you troll him so hard, john betts is a nice guy
2015-03-02 10:19:55 < wiz> one of the nicest african american gentlemen i ever met in roppongi
2015-03-02 10:20:28 < Tiraspol> stay tuned for a gox update
2015-03-02 10:20:55 < Dr-G3> http://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxinsolvency/comments/2xlsre/some_speculation_on_btc_returns_from_gox_using/ anyone checked that out
2015-03-02 10:21:04 < Dr-G3> or are those numbers wrong
2015-03-02 10:21:12 < Tiraspol> Dr-G3: its wrong
2015-03-02 10:21:39 < Tiraspol> the file isnt even complete
2015-03-02 10:21:44 < Tiraspol> so ignore that crap
2015-03-02 10:22:02 < Dr-G3> kk
2015-03-02 10:24:28 < wsmsg> He forgot to include the laywer fee of 202k btc's....
2015-03-02 20:47:20 < owowo> ;;diffchange
2015-03-02 20:47:21 < gribble> Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 1.42503 % based on data since last change | 1.50568 % based on data for last three days
2015-03-02 20:49:47 < chickmi2> btc fund http://activequote.fidelity.com/webxpress/get_quote?QUOTE_TYPE=D&SID_VALUE_ID=GBTC&submit=Quote
2015-03-02 21:59:01 < chickmi2> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2xp9r2/android_pay_was_confirmed_today_and_it_sounds/
2015-03-02 22:34:33 < chickmi2> http://bitcoinet.pl/2015/02/18/t-mobile-poland-accepts-bitcoin/
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