The troof shall set you free.

[11:16] <@srtfool> no
[11:16] <Dennis1> oh
[11:16] <Skull_One> No, it is the base for Nexus 1
[11:16] <@srtfool> its n1 software
[11:16] <Dennis1> ahhh
[11:16] <Azhrei> well man, it's been interesting the last couple days, that's for sure
[11:16] <Skull_One> And hence the most up to day.
[11:17] <Dennis1> ah ok
[11:17] <@srtfool> 10.0 is beign remade to make sure there are no cyanogen files at all in it
[11:17] <Dennis1> cool
[11:17] <Dennis1> and it'll still contain that ultimatedroid awesomeness that we all know and love?
[11:17] <Skull_One> If anyone remembers I begged BD NOT to cause a wipe with 10.0
[11:17] <Azhrei> lol, cool
[11:17] <Skull_One> Because I knew he was going down the ERE27 build path
[11:17] <Skull_One> But I wasn't about to tell him "Don't do it"
[11:17] <Dennis1> you mean cause a wipe as in having to format data before updating?
[11:17] <Skull_One> It is his life and his neck.
[11:18] <Skull_One> Yes.
[11:18] <Dennis1> ah
[11:18] <Skull_One> The wipe is needed because of the different base.
[11:18] <Dennis1> so the ere27 software is more up to date than the latest droid software?
[11:18] <Skull_One> ERE27 > ESE81 2.1 for the Droid
[11:18] <@srtfool> yes it will be the same with our own files
[11:19] <@srtfool> it does has ese81 in it
[11:19] <@srtfool> the fixes for the droid
[11:19] <Dennis1> ah
[11:19] <Dennis1> cool
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[11:19] <@srtfool> so in the end the base is a vustom build form us
[11:19] <Skull_One> The issue is simple.
[11:19] <Chaddledee> Surely if UD had no CM files in it, then it'd be featureless?
[11:19] <Dennis1> will we notice anything different from v10 that we are running now?
[11:19] <Chaddledee> Except the theme?
[11:19] <Skull_One> Two programmers got their panties in a wad because they didn't get their PROPS from BD
[11:19] <Chaddledee> Couldn't he just credit?
[11:20] <@srtfool> Chaddledee absolutely not
[11:20] <Dennis1> heres my question.. is anyone making any money, or a career, out of this code moding?
[11:20] <Skull_One> Even though legally he did give them props in the orginal source code.
[11:20] <@srtfool> all the features are not cyanogenmod
[11:20] <Dennis1> or is this just a hobby for all involved
[11:20] <@srtfool> the are form other devs out there
[11:20] <Skull_One> Dennis1: Hobby.
[11:20] <@srtfool> there will be no difference
[11:20] <Dennis1> THEN WTF IS THE PROBLEM
[11:20] <Dennis1> jesus
[11:20] <Dennis1> this is a HOBBY
[11:20] <Chaddledee> Well
[11:20] <Dennis1> this isnt someones JOB
[11:20] <Chaddledee> A2SD
[11:20] <Skull_One> Not one of these children know how to make money.
[11:20] <Dennis1> or means of making an income
[11:20] <Chaddledee> 360' rotation
[11:21] <Skull_One> Koush is the smartest of the bunch with his Rom Manager.
[11:21] <@srtfool> thats all from other devs Chaddledee
[11:21] <@srtfool> not from cyanogen
[11:21] <Chaddledee> Trackball colours
[11:21] <Dennis1> christ, do any of the people that are bitching about this have any real problems?
[11:21] <@srtfool> i credited all those people are ready for there work
[11:21] <Chaddledee> But he hasn't credited them
[11:21] <@srtfool> trackball is from ere27 base bc its forp the nexus one
[11:21] <@srtfool> i credited everyone but cyanogen in the thread
[11:21] <Chaddledee> *by trackball, I meant LED
[11:21] <@srtfool> i know
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[11:22] <@srtfool> cyaniogen will be credited when i find out which file sform him are in there
[11:22] <Chaddledee> Surely it'd just be a hell of a lot easier just to credit Cyanogen?
[11:22] <@srtfool> him and koush will be getting full credit in 10.0 release for all there work
[11:22] <@srtfool> it would be Chaddledee, but we dont wanna use there stuff, we want to build it on our own
[11:22] <NeaLMaN> who cares about the credits...  I don't credit charmin everytime I wipe my butt....it's there.... i just use it.
[11:22] <Chaddledee> Why though?
[11:23] <Chaddledee> It just causes a lot more problems
[11:23] <@srtfool> we have the files but dropped files in that were wrong and from cyanogen with out knowing
[11:23] <skinswin> srt- thanks for the update any timeframe for the new UD?
[11:23] <@srtfool> Chaddledee no it doesnt
[11:23] <@srtfool> not yet
[11:23] <skinswin> thx
[11:23] <@srtfool> doing alot of other things atm
[11:23] <skinswin> understood
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[11:24] <@srtfool> cyanogen will be credited for anything we use, we werent going to bc we dont want it called cyanogenmod bc it has some of his files
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[11:24] <@srtfool> we dont need his files, bd can write his own, he did
[11:24] <Chaddledee> ...
[11:24] <Skull_One> BTW in case any of Cyanogen or Koush's minions are logging.  I have a great deal of respect for both of their works.  But none for them as a person beceause of how they handled themselve and thier minions
[11:25] <Skull_One> They should have done this the old school way
[11:25] <@srtfool> no there are great devs and good people
[11:25] <Chaddledee> Cyanogen doesn't want it to be called CM BD Theme
[11:25] <Skull_One> Gone to the source and talked.
[11:25] <Chaddledee> He just wants a credit
[11:25] <@srtfool> we messed up adding wrong file sand not crediting
[11:25] <skinswin> skull...don't cast a blanket overall of cyan's users....btw I'm a UD guy
[11:25] <Skull_One> chaddledee: Cyanogen wants his EGO stroked
[11:25] <@srtfool> it was all stupid stuff
[11:25] <@srtfool> end of story is we used his files and didnt credit
[11:25] <Skull_One> No more, NO LESS
[11:26] <Chaddledee> ...
[11:26] <@srtfool> we were adding credits and post was moved from beta team area to live before we finished then bd had to start answering stuff and it slipped his minf
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[11:26] <Chaddledee> I'm actually amazed
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[11:26] <skinswin> chad- amazed at what??
[11:26] <@srtfool> no one is trying to screw everyone, i am a big supporter of giving correct credit bc people work hard on stuff and deserve credit for it
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[11:27] <@srtfool> if you check my lw thread i credit everone for everything that is not made by and make sure i have credited everyone
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[11:27] <Chaddledee> If a CM file was dropped in there by accident
[11:27] <Chaddledee> Why would you have to rebuild the ROM?
[11:28] <CPercodani> srtfool what do you think about the doc spreadsheet?
[11:28] <skinswin> chad- oh I see
[11:28] <@srtfool> CPercodani ?
[11:28] <Chaddledee> and why are more than half of the md5's match?
[11:28] <Dennis1> chad, it sounds like to avoid any more drama, they are going to just make their own stuff
[11:28] <@srtfool> Chaddledee bc wanna make sure nothign else was dropped in, if it is wanna remove if not needed or make sure to credit
[11:28] <Nauren> there isn't regression
[11:28] <Chaddledee> https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0At5T2x0BA9OVdEduX2w5SmRMUm5yMU11bnlTY2FlNVE&hl=en
[11:28] <CPercodani> https://spreadsheets.google.com/lv?key=tGn_l9JdLRnr1MunyScae5Q&f=true&gid=1 srtfool
[11:28] <Mast_> you didnt see the spreadsheet yet srt?
[11:28] <@srtfool> we will have a channel log on github from now on so no one is missed for credit
[11:29] <Chaddledee> srtfool, I beg you just to drop that story now and come clean
[11:29] <Nauren> chad: without comparisons of koush vs koush you can't tell
[11:29] <Skull_One> chaddledee: You really need to go now.
[11:29] <Chaddledee> I know
[11:29] <Skull_One> You are here to continue the stupidty
[11:29] <Skull_One> I have humor you so far.
[11:29] <Skull_One> humored even
[11:29] <Skull_One> Now you are testing even my patience.
[11:30] <@srtfool> thats all crap
[11:30] <Skull_One> Which is VERY hard to do.
[11:30] <@srtfool> spreadsheet shows apps are the same
[11:30] <@srtfool> no shit
[11:30] <@srtfool> there built form ere27
[11:30] <Chaddledee> No
[11:30] <Chaddledee> Dude
[11:30] <Skull_One> chaddledee: Good bye.
[11:30] <CPercodani> go to the bottom and check the other spresdsheets srtfool
[11:30] <@srtfool> k
[11:30] <skinswin> Here's one guy who is waiting patiently...alright impatiently for the new UD10.xxx or whatever....  It will rock!
[11:30] <Chaddledee> If they were build from the same code they'd still have different md5s
[11:30] <cjnet21>   if they are from the same n1 builds the files would match koush admitted having to use the build to get it to work properly.
[11:30] <@srtfool> what?
[11:30] <@srtfool> they show same apps
[11:30] <Skull_One> chaddledee: NO THEY WOULD NOT
[11:30] <Skull_One> You ignorant fool
[11:31] <Chaddledee> YES THEY FUCKING WOULD.
[11:31] <@srtfool> should google be faulted bc theere apps match that?
[11:31] <Skull_One> You have no clue about coding
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[11:31] <@srtfool> let me check otuerh spread sheet
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[11:31] <Skull_One> I was doing it before you were BORN
[11:31] <cyanogen> shade@discord:~/ud/bin$ strings recovery  | grep -i clock
[11:31] <cjnet21> your incorrect chad
[11:31] <Chaddledee> The build time files would not be the same
[11:31] <cyanogen> ClockworkMod Recovery v1.8.0.6
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[11:31] <cyanogen> lulz :)
[11:31] <Chaddledee> The md5 hashtags would not be the same
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[11:31] <cyanogen> you have GOT to be kidding me if you're still denying this.
[11:31] <Skull_One> cyanogenn: Yeah, I see that.  And I agree with your point
[11:31] <Chaddledee> They are not only made from the same source, they are the /exact same files.
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[11:31] <Skull_One> I dislike this not being handled like adults
[11:32] <Skull_One> And sending kidiots outs
[11:32] <Chaddledee> Skull_One, you were the first to cap locks
[11:32] <Skull_One> Man up and go to the source.
[11:32] <@srtfool> looking at it now
[11:32] <cyanogen> what do you need to look at?
[11:32] <Skull_One> I have had enough of you children
[11:32] <PsychoI3oy> Skull_One, no, manup was the source of the theme, not the rom
[11:32] <cyanogen> just look at the updates i posted to my blog
[11:32] <Nauren> Skull_One: he doesn't have to send them, they go willingly
[11:32] <qwerty1> holy shit is stdfool still saying UD is their own BUILD
[11:32] <qwerty1> ROFLMAFO!!!
[11:32] <Skull_One> TO many kidiots with EGOS
[11:32] <@srtfool> so md5 should always be different even if its the same app form google put in 2 different roms?
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[11:32] <cyanogen> dude you even ripped off my deskclock features
[11:32] <cyanogen> i dumped the resources
[11:32] <cyanogen> and the resources i added are there
[11:33] <cyanogen> they aren't in google's source
[11:33] <cyanogen> which you didn't compile from
[11:33] <Mast_> why dont you let the adults talk now minions
[11:33] <Mast_> ur input isnt needed
[11:33] <qwerty1> ok then stfu mast
[11:33] <kep0ne> lol
[11:33] <koush> haha
[11:33] <Chaddledee> lol
[11:33] <koush> this channel is great
[11:33] <cyanogen> srtfool:  just say *thanks bro* and move on
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[11:33] <Chaddledee> What's funny is no-one else was talking
[11:33] <kep0ne> lul
[11:34] <kep0ne> *thanks bro* (u got kanged) and i'll be happy
[11:34] <thebruce> would not matter at all if they would just have paid respects properly
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[11:34] <cyanogen> seriously! we are all about collaboration
[11:34] <cyanogen> i *want* people to use cm code
[11:34] <skinswin> newbie here, what does "kanged, kang'" mean
[11:34] <qwerty1> ask stdfool and blackdroid
[11:34] <cyanogen> but don't spread straight up lies
[11:34] <qwerty1> they are experts
[11:35] <PsychoI3oy> skinswin, reused without giving credit
[11:35] <Dennis1> oh boy
[11:35] <Chaddledee> Kanged = steal work without giving props
[11:35] <Nauren> sort of like psycho's mom
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[11:35] <kep0ne> oh snap
[11:35] <skinswin> thx
[11:35] <Dennis1> damnit skull left
[11:35] <koush> good
[11:35]  * PsychoI3oy is impressed by Nauren's clever use of standard 'YOUR MOM' joke on the internet
[11:35] <skinswin> what's the origin of kang'd
[11:35] <meigs51> wassup all
[11:35] <CPercodani> because he wants to eat a bowl of dicks
[11:35] <cjnet21> couldnt tell with attitudes you guys used lately love your cm. but your attitudes have just sucked over the last couple days.
[11:35] <cyanogen> pick a file, any file
[11:35] <Dennis1> sup meigs
[11:35] <Dennis1> drama is happening
[11:35] <cyanogen> i'll show you why it's kanged
[11:35]  * PsychoI3oy is also a habitual lier
[11:36] <thebruce> skinswin, comes from kinged
[11:36] <cyanogen> animated gifs in the browser, check
[11:36] <skinswin> ahhhhh!!!!
[11:36] <cyanogen> skia with neon opts, check
[11:36]  * Nauren suggests psycho grep Nauren's statement for the words "your mom"
[11:36] <Dennis1> whats skia?
[11:36] <@srtfool> you knwo you can talk privately to me cyanogen
[11:36] <cyanogen> skia is the drawing library used by android
[11:36] <cyanogen> no
[11:36] <cyanogen> i don't want to talk privately
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[11:36] <Azhrei> exactly
[11:36] <cyanogen> everyone needs to hear this
[11:36] <@srtfool> thats fine
[11:36] <@srtfool> now your jsut being an ass dude
[11:37] <meigs51> people still hijacking the irc?
[11:37] <cyanogen> i am
[11:37] <@srtfool> i said i will credit you for everything that is yours and koush's
[11:37] <@srtfool> said it a million times
[11:37] <skinswin> let's here this out
[11:37] <Chaddledee> No you didn't
[11:37] <@srtfool> and you wont stop
[11:37] <thebruce> cyanogen, deserves credit for most of this rom development whether it's based off of his code or not due to the fact that he is so influential in this community
[11:37] <@srtfool> now your acting like a child
[11:37] <Chaddledee> You said you'd rather cut it all out than credit
[11:37] <cjnet21> yeah he did chad
[11:37] <cyanogen> you don't have to credit us for eve little detail dude
[11:37] <cyanogen> thats NOT my point
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[11:37] <Dennis1> cyanogen
[11:37] <Dennis1> he said he was going to give all credit for 10.0
[11:37] <@srtfool> but it should be done that way
[11:37] <Dennis1> but they are changing code to their own in 10.xx
[11:37] <@srtfool> everyone should be credited for there work
[11:37] <@srtfool> i believe that 100%

[11:38] <thebruce> where would most of us be without CM, think about that
[11:38] <OMJ_> lol
[11:38] <cyanogen> a lot of people use cm source, but UD is the first to deny that they did
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[11:38] <Dennis1> right now? doing something productive instead of having IRC arguments and drama :)
[11:38] <Dennis1> maybe watching p0rn
[11:38] <cyanogen> i'm happy with a one liner
[11:38] <PsychoI3oy> cyanogen, UD didn't use CM source ;)
[11:38] <@srtfool> and when i asked bd about he said he used his own vendor setup that tok him 2 days to build
[11:38] <cyanogen> he used vendor/cyanogen
[11:39] <Chaddledee> No, it didn't use source, it used the exact files ;)
[11:39] <@srtfool> and see without seeign his files idk
[11:39] <cyanogen> there are a bunch of pre-built binaries in there that i was too lazy to make Android.mk files for
[11:39] <thebruce> cyanogen, which would not have been an issue at all if credit was given, correct?
[11:39] <cyanogen> like irssi, powertop, htop, lsof, libncurses, etc
[11:39] <@srtfool> ok
[11:39] <cyanogen> those are all in your rom
[11:39] <@srtfool> ok
[11:39] <@srtfool> like i sent you privately i test and learning java to build stuff
[11:39] <PsychoI3oy> srtfool, sounds like you should be taking this up with BD because he's been lying to you too
[11:40] <@srtfool> idk
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[11:40] <cyanogen> anyway
[11:40] <cyanogen> collaboration
[11:40] <cyanogen> not kanging
[11:40] <koush> AFAIK blackdroid is an unemployed and doesnt even know how to code.
[11:40] <cyanogen> *thanks bro*
[11:40] <@srtfool> i keep asking and he says its his vendor he built and stuff
[11:40] <qwerty1> srt why are you cheezing out your partner
[11:40] <koush> he said he was a web dev, but he couldnt even format his JSON properly
[11:40] <@srtfool> im not
[11:40] <@srtfool> koush, enough
[11:41] <cyanogen> here's the reason android is awesome: we work together
[11:41] <@srtfool> its over and done, now trying to make it right
[11:41] <koush> srtfool: just saying. he lied to you.
[11:41] <Nauren> I haven't showered in two days, I smell like livestock
[11:41] <thebruce> lol Nauren
[11:41] <@srtfool> thats fine, now i wanna get teh credits right
[11:41] <Dennis1> good livestock or poopy livestock, nauren?
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[11:41] <Chaddledee> srtfool: Why do you stick with him?
[11:41] <Nauren> i haven't poo'd in over a day, so good livestock
[11:41] <Dennis1> cool
[11:41] <Chaddledee> Isn't this the third time he's done this?
[11:41] <cyanogen> srtfool:  you seem to be taking a lot of heat then for something you didn't even do :)
[11:41] <Nauren> strep throat pretty much keeps you from functioning
[11:42] <@srtfool> i will talk with him about all that but i wanna have the credits to correct to make all parties happy about that
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[11:42] <@srtfool> yeah but its fine
[11:42] <Chaddledee> I mean, any other community would happily accept you
[11:42] <@srtfool> bc i wanna get it solved not keep going
[11:42] <RotorDroid> In the end the consumer will choose, either UD will have a following or it won't
[11:42] <@srtfool> if you check my lw thread i credit everyone for everything
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[11:42] <Dennis1> considering that this is like, a non-revenue generating hobby, i'm surprised by how much drama this whole thing has caused
[11:42] <@srtfool> and my post on cyanogenmod explained i believe credit is important
[11:42] <gleamicus> people don't have donate links up?
[11:42] <cyanogen> Dennis1:  it's about principles not money
[11:42] <Dennis1> ok, non-mortgage paying revenues :)
[11:42] <@srtfool> yes
[11:43] <Dennis1> true cyan
[11:43] <thebruce> Dennis1 because these guys pour in so much time and energy it's more meaningfult ot hem
[11:43] <Dennis1> but this thing like blew WAAAAAY up
[11:43] <@srtfool> people make something and they should be credited for it
[11:43] <Dennis1> thats true bruce
[11:43] <CPercodani> because of the never ending lies from the ud team
[11:43] <CPercodani> and df being douche nozzles
[11:43] <@srtfool> ^^ not needed
[11:43] <Dennis1> but i mean, i imagine this coulda been handled in 20 minutes of private convo instead of all the forum and irc bickering
[11:43] <thebruce> i can't even imagine how much time koush and cyanogen spend compiling and reading
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[11:43] <Chaddledee> It wouldn't have blown up if it wasn't BD's third time
[11:43] <Stephan|> srtfool:ships going down brother, sink or swim?
[11:43] <CPercodani> this could have been solved by just giving cred from the start
[11:43] <Dennis1> not saying this is bickering since there actually appears to be some meaningful convo in here
[11:43] <Chaddledee> or he didn't try lying multiple times to cover it up
[11:43] <@srtfool> i can swim
[11:43] <koush> thebruce: have you heard about the 10000 hours rule
[11:43] <@srtfool> :)
[11:44] <krazykrivda> what is this talk i hear about kang?
[11:44] <Nauren> thebruce: look at AllAppsView.java and you'll get a great idea
[11:44] <@srtfool> i added cred right away but was not aware of how much cyanogen stuff was in it
[11:44] <thebruce> lol koush no
[11:44] <Dennis1> whats the 10000 hours rule
[11:44] <krazykrivda> I heard someone stole someone elses rom work?
[11:44] <cyanogen> the md5 of the framework jars matches
[11:44] <thebruce> omg krazykrivda
[11:44] <cyanogen> you can't fake that shit
[11:44] <koush> thebruce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outliers_(book)
[11:44] <thebruce> lol
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[11:44] <cyanogen> there's a lot of code we added to the framework
[11:45] <@srtfool> ok
[11:45] <koush> first paragraph
[11:45] <Dennis1> hmm
[11:45] <Nauren> good book
[11:45] <krazykrivda> Is everyone ok?  I can't believe anyone would ACTUALLY try to take credit for a whole bunch of effort put in by someone els, did this really occur?
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[11:45] <Dennis1> koush im not contributing to the 10000 hour rule when i am at my job chatting on IRC huh?
[11:45] <skinswin> here's a question for you dev's:  Are you all professional coders for work or do you just code for fun??
[11:45] <koush> Dennis1: hahah
[11:45] <thebruce> koush lol wow
[11:46] <koush> yes, i am an android dev full time
[11:46] <thebruce> that's enlightening
[11:46] <skinswin> koush: nice!
[11:46] <krazykrivda> skinswin, also -  ask BD how much he has recieved in donations
[11:46] <@srtfool> well i gotta run to best buy for a bit, will be back in an hour or so
[11:46] <CPercodani> enough money to fill his crack habbit i hope
[11:46] <skinswin> krazy- why?
[11:46] <DA6_> LOL
[11:46] <@srtfool> and i will be adding all credits for cyanogen and koush
[11:46] <cyanogen> i'm a java coder by day
[11:47] <skinswin> cyan- ah!
[11:47] <Dennis1> koush you work for someone doing this android dev work?
[11:47] <Dennis1> you work for google?
[11:47] <thebruce> cyanogen, im a java drinker by day
[11:47] <thebruce> does that count?
[11:47] <thebruce> lol
[11:47] <krazykrivda> becuase, people are saying it's free, opensource, and what's the big deal it's no money, the fact is.. people ARE making money off of someone elses work, AND are recieving credit and praise fo rsomeone eles work
[11:47] <@srtfool> for now will add a general thank you for koush and cyanogen unless there is specifics you guys want
[11:47] <skinswin> I hate java...both the code and the drink
[11:47] <jeh_> there is a 1 in 3.4E38 possibility that it's just a hash collision. i'm going with that.
[11:47] <qwerty1> srt can you add me too
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[11:48] <thebruce> i think Cyanogen secretly works for Google, they put him out there as a freelance to pump up the community and get more geeks on board
[11:48] <qwerty1> my name is Joe Blow
[11:48] <skinswin> krazy-  that makes sense
[11:48] <Dennis1> lol
[11:48] <cyanogen> haha
[11:48] <Azhrei> my question is this, did BD ever outright say that it was all his code? or just didn't put the credits on the OP?
[11:48] <cyanogen> i have a lot of friends at google
[11:48] <koush> Dennis1: yeah, i work for Kiha Software. I also made a considerable amount off all my Market apps.
[11:48] <@srtfool> didnt get credtis up
[11:48] <forkup> Dennis1: http://www.absolutelyandroid.com/the-man-who-rooted-the-g1-an-interview-with-koush/
[11:48] <thebruce> as you should cyanogen
[11:48] <cyanogen> interviewed there too, but they didn't hire me
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[11:48] <@srtfool> was moved fomr beta team area befoer credtis were added
[11:48] <koush> cyanogen: they're dumb
[11:48] <cyanogen> might try again this summer
[11:48] <krazykrivda> AND talked ish before borrowing the code
[11:48] <Dennis1> koush sweeet
[11:48] <thebruce> cyanogen, i remember reading that or hearing it from thedude i think
[11:48] <krazykrivda> and denied it after the fact
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[11:49] <thebruce> well cyanogen if they hire you, BD will just take over your work in the CM community rofl!
[11:49] <Dennis1> ok, so is cyanogen a collaboration between koush and cyanogen?
[11:49] <Dennis1> or is cyanogen just cthe maker of cyanogen
[11:49] <Dennis1> i am confused about all that
[11:49] <thebruce> cyanogen, is the creator of the cyanogen mod
[11:49] <CPercodani> cyanogen is a collabo between steve and GOD
[11:49] <Chaddledee> cyanogen makes cm
[11:49] <Chaddledee> Koush ports it over
[11:50] <Dennis1> cuz i see koush's section of droid forums is cyanogen posting
[11:50] <Dennis1> wait
[11:50] <thebruce> koush has taken that source and complied roms from source for the droid and n1 i think
[11:50] <Chaddledee> Koush has helped make some stuff for CM though
[11:50] <Dennis1> ok CM is for N1?
[11:50] <Nauren> and they push/pull checkins back and forth
[11:50] <Dennis1> CM is for N1, koush makes CM for droid?
[11:50] <jeh_> a lot of people contribute to CM, they are all credited in fact :)
[11:50] <qwerty1> correct Dennis1
[11:50] <thebruce> cm is directly for G1 and N1 it hink , and koush tool the CM and now releases it for Droid
[11:50] <Dennis1> im talking about the dude called cyanogen right here :)
[11:50] <thebruce> took**
[11:50] <krazykrivda> CM FO LIFE!!
[11:50] <thebruce> this cyanogen is THE CYANOGEN.
[11:50] <PsychoI3oy> cyanogen makes CM for the Dream/Magic and the N1, Koush makes CM for the Droid
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[11:51] <Dennis1> jesus, how do people use a phone like the N1 on such a crappy carrier
[11:51] <skinswin> I personally think this has been the most infomative conversation in days...thanks all
[11:51] <PsychoI3oy> with patches/support/etc. from a crapton of other people
[11:51] <Chaddledee> Nobody Dennis1
[11:51] <Chaddledee> We aren't tools, we buy unsubsidised
[11:51] <Nauren> tmo treats me well
[11:51] <Dennis1> i bet this is being logged and copied somewhere
[11:51] <Mast_> too bad all this wasnt resolved right away
[11:51] <Dennis1> who do you hook the phone up to chad?
[11:51] <Mast_> 2 days of garbage
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[11:51] <Chaddledee> I live in the UK
[11:51] <Chaddledee> I hooked mine up to 3
[11:51] <meigs51> does cm have the nexxus theme
[11:51] <Dennis1> N1 will be good when it is given a CDMA chip and brought to VZW :)
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[11:51] <Dennis1> oh ok chad
[11:52] <Nauren> always hated verizon
[11:52] <Chaddledee> £15/m unlimited net, unlimited texts, 300 minutes