no more h4x: now i'm behind
snapplemango: el cteam
+Vaporeon for Ubers: [21:58] Lady Ciaran: Did you guys know, That visiting the UU room Plugin once a day helps prevent Cooties?! https://plug.dj/pokemon-showdown-underused
snapplemango: stop pasting that bitch in here
+tripsbot: nice advertising?!?!
+Vaporeon for Ubers: who even is tonks
snapplemango: i swear ill kill you.
+Vaporeon for Ubers: snapplemango did u know tonks
snapplemango: yes
snapplemango: i dont care about him
+Vaporeon for Ubers: did he get you demoted
+Biz: i dont either
snapplemango: from what
+Vaporeon for Ubers: idk
+Vaporeon for Ubers: he was telling me about how he gets people demoted
+Vaporeon for Ubers: when they talk shit to him
snapplemango: i dont use public rooms
snapplemango: stop posting him in here
snapplemango: no one cares
+Vaporeon for Ubers: r u
+Vaporeon for Ubers: salty
+Vaporeon for Ubers: ?!?!
snapplemango: le showderp loves talking about tonks
+Vaporeon for Ubers: i mean
+Vaporeon for Ubers: i dont go to showderp
+Vaporeon for Ubers: im not an autist
@Outrageous Fortune: tonks is actually a pretty epic meme
+Vaporeon for Ubers: u go to showderp?!?!?!?!??
snapplemango: youre autistic enough to copy and paste everything tonks says in to this chat
+Vaporeon for Ubers: ty Outrageous Fortune
+Clefairy: tonks is literally insane
+Vaporeon for Ubers: u appreciate my meems
snapplemango: while no one replies
+Vaporeon for Ubers: snapplemango why are you so salty
+Vaporeon for Ubers: xd
snapplemango: cuz ur an annoying kid
+Vaporeon for Ubers: it's literally a private room on a pokesim
+Vaporeon for Ubers: i can do whatever the fuck i want
+Biz: lol
+I'm Rick Astley: I was thinking of replacing bisharp on this team with scarf ttar.
+Vaporeon for Ubers: <:^3c
snapplemango: that doesnt make it tolerable
+I'm Rick Astley: Thoughts?
+I'm Rick Astley: http://hastebin.com/ihisiqucop.md
+Biz: this room is addicting
snapplemango: ur still an annoying bitch if u shitpost about something nobody cares about in here
+Vaporeon for Ubers: snapplemango no one cares about your opinion
snapplemango: so shut your mouth
+Vaporeon for Ubers: stop posting it
+tripsbot: awww you too :3
+Vaporeon for Ubers: literally
+Vaporeon for Ubers: no one cares
+Vaporeon for Ubers: !
snapplemango: go back to frost
snapplemango: u bitch
+Vaporeon for Ubers: go back to reddit
snapplemango: nice me me
+tripsbot: why are u guys such fags
+tripsbot: lmoa
+Vaporeon for Ubers: ikr
@Outrageous Fortune: are you really having lati problems rick?
@doge ebinest: ^get off him
no more h4x: http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-ou-195201027
@doge ebinest: hes cool
+I'm Rick Astley: No.
+I'm Rick Astley: I'm having talonflame problems.
@doge ebinest: he makes the best memes
snapplemango: add a rhyperior to your team
+tripsbot: ur mom makes the best memes
snapplemango: he's good against talonflame
+tripsbot: when we're in action
no more h4x: can i just gyro the ninja?
no more h4x: i live a low kek rite?
@Outrageous Fortune: !learn rhyperior, pursuit
Rhyperior can't learn Pursuit
snapplemango: Porygon2 is also good against Talonflame
@Outrageous Fortune: :'(
tripsbot was muted by doge ebinest for 7 minutes. (NO)
+I'm Rick Astley: That sounds like a fantastically viable mon?
+nidvikie left
tripsbot: (Private to doge ebinest) YES
+I'm Rick Astley: Ok, ok, ok.
/unban - Access denied.
+I'm Rick Astley: Let's back up a second.
tripsbot was unmuted by doge ebinest.
+I'm Rick Astley: Bisharp is the pursuit trapper.
snapplemango: porygon2 = OU sleeper
snapplemango: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-195181095
+Vaporeon for Ubers: p2 in ou
+Vaporeon for Ubers: great meme!
snapplemango: watch this game
snapplemango: u will understand how good p2 is!
@Outrageous Fortune: rick just try it out
+Vaporeon for Ubers: but
@Outrageous Fortune: and see how it goes
+Vaporeon for Ubers: idc about your links!
@Outrageous Fortune: you lose nothing
snapplemango: yall suck smogon's nipples too much to try porygon2
+Vaporeon for Ubers: n p2 is just shit in ou lol
snapplemango: why is it shit
+I'm Rick Astley: I guess.
+Vaporeon for Ubers: it's just bad
+tripsbot: implying pory is good on a non trickroom team
+Vaporeon for Ubers: why would you use it
snapplemango: it walls a significant portion of the metagame and has boltbeam and toxic access
+I'm Rick Astley: It just makes me even weaker to gren.
+Vaporeon for Ubers: unless youre using tr
+I'm Rick Astley: Which is really annoying.
snapplemango: it stops every talonflame set
snapplemango: it stops a plethora of special attackers
snapplemango: it never dies
+I'm Rick Astley: Oml, I'm never using your shitmon, kid
+tripsbot: snapple are u the fag from the piratepad that suggested spoiler: hp ice charge beam sub magnezone with lefties
snapplemango: Yes!
+tripsbot: nicememe
snapplemango: you dont have to use it but just know that youre missing out on a really good pokemon
+I'm Rick Astley: Not today, not if you rephrase, not even if I was looking for a normal pokemon to tank hits.
@Outrageous Fortune: snapple how does it stop
@Outrageous Fortune: SD spdef talon
snapplemango: use toxic on it
snapplemango: then discharge and recover to stall it out
@Outrageous Fortune: SD spdef taunt talon
+I'm Rick Astley: I wish I had usage stats.
+Vaporeon for Ubers: i mean
+I'm Rick Astley: That would really help me decide, because we could see how common talon is.
+Vaporeon for Ubers: p2 only switches into tflame if it's at full
snapplemango: no it doesnt
+Updated Kanto left
snapplemango: it can switch into talon as low as 70%
+I'm Rick Astley: I played Henry earlier, and he just used a talonflame that 6-0'd me.
+Vaporeon for Ubers: as low as 75
snapplemango: band maybe
+Vaporeon for Ubers: and thats the bare minimum it has to be
@Outrageous Fortune: I've been playing with SD talon
@Outrageous Fortune: it's fantastic atm
snapplemango: it can switch into non band talons with ease
+Vaporeon for Ubers: so can
+I'm Rick Astley: Yeah, rn it just destroys me.
snapplemango: if u have a good spread
+Vaporeon for Ubers: a lot of things
snapplemango: well yeah
snapplemango: but that snot the argument
+I'm Rick Astley: I guess the real decider is if Manaphy is enough for clef.
snapplemango: you cant just say "well other things do that" after your point is wrong
+Vaporeon for Ubers: im not saying p2 doesnt check tflame
+Vaporeon for Ubers: it's just other things check it + do more for your team
+I'm Rick Astley: I mean, I've got landorus i and manaphy, if I drop Bish, does that make me clef weak?
snapplemango: p2 checks and counters tons of mons
@Outrageous Fortune: it doesn't check SD spdef taunt talon.........
snapplemango: including greninja
@Outrageous Fortune: it's a bad check!
snapplemango: which is the most oh P shit in OU
snapplemango: at this moment
+Vaporeon for Ubers: but once again
+Vaporeon for Ubers: p2 has to be at full
+Vaporeon for Ubers: to check these things
snapplemango: p2 doesnt have to be at full to check greninja
snapplemango: are you retarded lol
+Vaporeon for Ubers: it has to be
snapplemango: it will never do more than like 33% with any attack against a mixed p2 with eviolite
+I'm Rick Astley: Right, I don't care about p2 now.
snapplemango: do some calcs you stupid idiot
+Vaporeon for Ubers: greater than 85
+Vaporeon for Ubers: with rocks up
snapplemango: its so light that low kick cant touch it
@Outrageous Fortune: you tank shit
@Outrageous Fortune: and do.....
no more h4x: b-baka!!
+I'm Rick Astley: Are manaphy and landorus i enough to beat clef?
no more h4x: ROFL
@Outrageous Fortune: .....what exactly?
+Vaporeon for Ubers: im looking at the calc rn
snapplemango: toxic it or use discharge
+Vaporeon for Ubers: snapplemango why are you so mad lmao
+tripsbot: >medacoolkid2006 (Private to tripsbot) hi
@Outrageous Fortune: they just switch
+tripsbot: >medacoolkid2006 (Private to tripsbot) ima get oras for chrismas
snapplemango: ok?
+Vaporeon for Ubers: like why cant you have a reg convo without insulting people
@Outrageous Fortune: to a status absorber/something resisting boltbeam
snapplemango: they still have to take rocks and lo damage
snapplemango: on gren
snapplemango: and p2 isnt dying for along time
@Outrageous Fortune: yeah but
snapplemango: due to how much staying power and recover it has
@Outrageous Fortune: everything else is
@Outrageous Fortune: if they set up on it
snapplemango: ive literally never had these problems
snapplemango: youre playing theoretical pokemon instead of actual pokemon
@Outrageous Fortune: ok
snapplemango: p2 switches in on gren just fine even at 60%
@Outrageous Fortune: top le ladder with porygon2
+Vaporeon for Ubers: and youre prob playing low ladder pokemon
snapplemango: it can do tons of threatening shit
snapplemango: ive done it on both high and low ladders
snapplemango: its just a godly mon
no more h4x: http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-ou-195204251
no more h4x: i lose sometimes to these stupid teams
@Outrageous Fortune: p2 has megagross, lopunny, bisharp, scizor, gallade, cm manaphy, crocune, and a bunch of other shit that just set up on it or get a free kill
snapplemango: 252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 160+ SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 109-129 (29.1 - 34.4%) -- 3.4% chance to 3HKO
snapplemango: 252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 160+ SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 87-105 (23.2 - 28%) -- 86.3% chance to 4HKO
snapplemango: damn
snapplemango: wheres gunk shot on this calc
snapplemango: bad set
@Outrageous Fortune: im not saying it doesn't balk greninja
@Outrageous Fortune: it just loses muhmentum
+Vaporeon for Ubers: [21:58] Lady Ciaran: Did you guys know, That visiting the UU room Plugin once a day helps prevent Cooties?! https://plug.dj/pokemon-showdown-underused
+Vaporeon for Ubers: whoops
+Vaporeon for Ubers: wrong cp
+Vaporeon for Ubers: snapplemango dont bitch at me please
+Vaporeon for Ubers: 252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 96 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 154-183 (41.1 - 48.9%) -- 76.6% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
snapplemango: if u have proper team support that isnt rly an issue
+Vaporeon for Ubers: but you were saying p2 was good bc of its ability to counter tflame and ninja
+Vaporeon for Ubers: it cant do both at once
@Outrageous Fortune: yeah no mon is bad
snapplemango: obviously its not going to wall mega lop or stop crocune
@Outrageous Fortune: just support it smh......
snapplemango: its normal type
@Outrageous Fortune: uve got 5 other slots!
snapplemango: that doesnt mean its shit
+Vaporeon for Ubers: it means
+Vaporeon for Ubers: it requires more support than most mons
snapplemango: p2 actually does counter both tflame and ninja at the same time
+Vaporeon for Ubers: how
@Outrageous Fortune: it's not the most garbage thing ever
snapplemango: since hes my check/counter for both of those on my team
+Scotteh: .rmon tier:ou,uu 6
@dubsbot: Snorlax, Jirachi, Aerodactyl, Bisharp, Kingdra, Scrafty
+Vaporeon for Ubers: >having only one check for tflame and ninja
snapplemango: i dont need any others
snapplemango: p2 never dies
+Vaporeon for Ubers: ok
+Clefairy left
snapplemango: it prevents the talon sweep and walls greninja every time
snapplemango: i think ur just mad cuz u didnt come up with it first
@Outrageous Fortune: tfw mad :/
snapplemango: p2 also has the epic ability TRACE