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  1. [2.02.2014 11:11:08] Rapla Tt: Hello, Dageron, are you here? I just have found your website and want to ask some questions. Hope you have a bit of time.
  2. [2.02.2014 11:11:13] Andrey Dageron: Yes, I am here. Hello.
  3. [2.02.2014 11:14:00] Rapla Tt: Sorry for distraction, but your website articles totally astonished me. Are you Russian who translates videogames and adds censorship to them? I mean what you have done with GTA LCS.
  4. [2.02.2014 11:14:31] Andrey Dageron: Hm... Partially you are right, partically not. What is the point of interest?
  5. [2.02.2014 11:16:23] Rapla Tt: I have read your article: http://dageron.com/?page_id=4823&lang=en . And want to understand your ideology, clarify some thiings, this is very uncommon, I think. Looks like you are writing GTA soft (for old GTA era, and even new, GTA V): http://dageron.com/?page_id=3133&lang=en . Many articles on your website are about GTA gaming and videogames, rather usual for gaming websites, what is the clue with censorip and disrespect to the game developers because of violence?
  6. [2.02.2014 11:19:40] Andrey Dageron: Programming is just my sphere of activity, one of the spheres to be more exact. So, my hobby is writing soft for videogames (tools for opening resources, editing, etc.). Localizations is just 'point of application' of programming skills - all necessary soft for our projects I write myself.
  7. [2.02.2014 11:21:59] Rapla Tt: But your localizations... Pretty unusual.
  8. [2.02.2014 11:26:30] Andrey Dageron: What is the point of interest to localization projects? You are even not Russian, but all our game translations are Russian ones :).
  9. [2.02.2014 11:28:52] Rapla Tt: Your localization style is unusual, you remove some game content and add censorship. In article also mentioned that this is like war to game developers - Rockstar.
  10. [2.02.2014 11:26:56] Andrey Dageron: Yes, it is. I don't like Rockstar and American videogames. They are rough, violent, full of indecent things. So while these games are rather popular here, in Russia, I want to show a lesson to gamers and game developers, if possible.
  11. [2.02.2014 11:27:10] Rapla Tt: You hate America, am I right?
  12. [2.02.2014 11:27:23] Andrey Dageron: No, you are not right. I hate liberalism and 'vice freedom'.
  13. [2.02.2014 11:28:14] Rapla Tt: Are you a communist then?
  14. [2.02.2014 11:31:32] Andrey Dageron: No, I am not. I hate communism probably more than liberalism. Both these ideologies are created to enslave the human by sins and vices. Both thesse ideologies were used to destroy Russia, and many other countries and nations.
  15. [2.02.2014 11:33:49] Rapla Tt: But while removing game missions, re-writing plot and adding propaganda screens, you act like a true communist, with censorship ideas like in the Soviet Union.
  16. [2.02.2014 11:35:41] Andrey Dageron: Sorry, but looks like you know nothing about communism and the Soviet Union, even about Russia in common. My aim is different from their ones, I just want to save Russian society from the liberal anomalies and the indifference of good and evil. I prefer culture, morality, spirituality, kindness, Christian values. Nothing of this communists have, nothing liberals have. My ideology is monarchist, as the White movement ideology during the Russian Civil War and Russia befor the bolsheciks revolution.
  17. [2.02.2014 11:36:04] Rapla Tt: Digital products censorip is not the best way of fighting for social justice. Games are for fun, why so serious attitude.
  18. [2.02.2014 11:39:34] Andrey Dageron: Since violent videogames are popular, the situation should be corrected. It is not fun, so no tolerance. This games provoke agression and destroy human mind.
  19. [2.02.2014 11:41:50] Rapla Tt: You hate tolerance as like as liberalism?
  20. [2.02.2014 11:41:34] Andrey Dageron: Probably yes. Especially 'western tolerance', like in the EU. But this is different subject.
  21. [2.02.2014 11:46:43] Rapla Tt: But why have you made soft for GTA V (Texture Editor, LibertyV, key extractor)? No clue.
  22. [2.02.2014 11:51:09] Andrey Dageron: I wrote soft for GTA V in order to support hiddenly online cheating and piracy. It was so much fun to extract AES encryption key from GTA V (disassemble x360 executables in IDA) while game wasn't even available yet (got it from torrents)... And next, give people way for texture edition. The more info about GTA V is published before it's PC release (about Xbox360 and PS3 structures, etc), the better is. The more console mods will be, also the better is (console modding is possible only on hacked consoles, which is also good because it breaks copyright system, and I call people never pay for videogames).
  23. [2.02.2014 11:59:53] Rapla Tt: Well... Actually, why Rockstar, why GTA? There are a lot of popular 'violent' games.
  24. [2.02.2014 12:03:58] Andrey Dageron: Because I know a lot about GTA modding and programming for GTA, some years ago also was interested in GTA games, fortunately, got rid of gaming. I also know the psychology of GTA players.
  25. [2.02.2014 12:10:46] Rapla Tt: Have you got consoles and any games?
  26. [2.02.2014 12:14:40] Andrey Dageron: PSP and Xbox360. Both are hacked, of course. And all games are downloaded from the internet (from torrents).
  27. [2.02.2014 12:19:41] Andrey Dageron: One question from me... From what country you are?
  28. [2.02.2014 12:20:46] Rapla Tt: France.
  29. [2.02.2014 12:22:46] Rapla Tt: And we have different attitude for games, not like your in Russia. Sorry, I wanted to clarify everithing, but this dialog just astonished me more.
  30. [2.02.2014 12:24:04] Andrey Dageron: Do something with 'tolerance' in your country, or it will be filled with perverts and African immigrants). Not a joke, but truth. Russia has the same problems.
  31. [2.02.2014 12:25:12] Rapla Tt: I am out of the politics.
  32. [2.02.2014 12:27:14] Andrey Dageron: Morality and national pride is not politics.
  33. [2.02.2014 12:29:19] Rapla Tt: Are all Russians so intolerant? And so mad on politic-relative things.
  34. [2.02.2014 12:31:25] Andrey Dageron: No, there are also a lot of liberals in Russia, they run and destroy our country since 1991. And communists were since 1917, also tried to run country and destroy it.
  35. [2.02.2014 12:33:29] Rapla Tt: So, you identify yorself as Russians before the communist revolution?
  36. [2.02.2014 12:41:32] Andrey Dageron: Yes. Monarchists, Russian nationalists. Just Orthodox Christian people. Those who pursue the traditional values of life, devote their lives to God. Have you ever heard about Russian tsar st.Nicholas II and Black-Hundred Orthodox movement?
  37. [2.02.2014 12:42:01] Rapla Tt: Nope, never heard about Russian religious movements, but heard about russian tsar. It's about the First World War, France, Britain and Russia (tsar Russia) fight agains Germany and Turkey.
  38. [2.02.2014 12:44:18] Andrey Dageron: Yes, and next it was a revolution. Bolsheviks betrayed Russia, killed the st.tsar, made peace with Germany. And that was beneficial to France, Britain and America because they never trust Russia and wanted to destroy it hiddenly.
  39. [2.02.2014 12:49:43] Rapla Tt: I don't know history well, but as far as I know, Russia has a lot of inside conflicts, not only communists and tsarists one. Also with some 'former states': Ukraine, Baltic, Finland.
  40. [2.02.2014 12:51:59] Andrey Dageron: the Ukraine was a land partially occupied by Austria-Hungary, next by Germany, and this is a long story... But they have chosen comminism and supported bolsheviks. Another part of the Ukraine was occuped by Poland which also hiddenly supported bolsheviks and betrayed the White Army of Wrangel and Denikin (Russian tsarists). Poland and Baltic countries (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia) also betrayed the White Army in exchange for peace with the bolsheviks. Finland not, but this state just wanted to be independent and not to take part in the Civil war. But all these countries paid for 'peace' with the communists and betrayal tsarists - 20 years later they were occupied by the Soviets, in 1939, before the Second World War. Poland is particularly affected by the communists (as like as German nazis), I think they realized that Pilsudski was wrong when he betrayed Wrangel. Hope to see Ukraine, Belarus, Baltic, Poland, Finland in Russian Empire again, as a brother states.
  41. [2.02.2014 12:55:00] Rapla Tt: I understood practically nothing, but looks like you seriously know your history and hate communists (libarals also). Just amazed. You live in so huge country with great history, and looks like Russians seriously have abosolutely different mind from others. Anyway, I don't want to visit Moscow, or Sochi, or Siberia ).
  42. [2.02.2014 12:59:08] Andrey Dageron: Ha-ha, fun. Siberia is not a city, it is a land. Moscow and Sochi are cities.
  43. [2.02.2014 13:02:13] Rapla Tt: Yeah, I know this, don't think that Russians for me are bears with vodka and balalaika. French geography is rather easier just).
  44. [2.02.2014 13:10:28] Andrey Dageron: You also had a revolution, in 1799, and it caused a lot of troubles.
  45. [2.02.2014 13:12:32] Rapla Tt: But we remember it as a holiday celebrated every year.
  46. [2.02.2014 13:15:53] Andrey Dageron: With this revolution began apostasy and masonic dominance, the dominance of liberals everywhere.
  47. [2.02.2014 13:20:13] Rapla Tt: Masonic? Man, dont be so serious for the conspiracy theories... And what is 'apostasy' exactly is?
  48. [2.02.2014 13:22:26] Andrey Dageron: Defection human from God.
  49. [2.02.2014 13:24:37] Rapla Tt: You are again talking about religion, but we spoke about history.
  50. [2.02.2014 13:26:45] Andrey Dageron: French rebels in 1799 and 'Russian reds' in 1917 fight with God and the church. This is the starting point of apostasy.
  51. [2.02.2014 13:27:52] Rapla Tt: Don't know about this, just never thought or read.
  52. [2.02.2014 13:31:00] Andrey Dageron: Most of revolutions are 'revolutions' against God. And protection of the Christian religion is our main task, so that's why I follow the ideology of Russian Orthodox tsarists and the Black Hundred movement. This is Christian fundamentalism.
  53. [2.02.2014 13:32:12] Rapla Tt: Like 'muslim fundamentalism'?
  54. [2.02.2014 13:35:45] Andrey Dageron: No, Islam was invented in the V-VI century as an Judaism anomaly, it's reformation in order to struggle with the Christians.
  55. [2.02.2014 13:37:54] Rapla Tt: Judaism? No clue...
  56. [2.02.2014 13:38:56] Andrey Dageron: I have touched a very difficult theological issues. It may be worth to recommend the book, it should be in English - Mikhail Nazarov, "The Leader of the Third Rome". The most comprehensive analysis of the situation with the world's religions, as far as I know. About global apostasy there is also written.
  57. [2.02.2014 13:39:59] Rapla Tt: So you think that only the Chiristian religion is 'right'?
  58. [2.02.2014 13:41:01] Andrey Dageron: In common words: since Christ, the Son of God, Messiah, came down to earth, there is the unceasing battle in the hearts of people - battle between good and evil. Islam and Judaism take people away from the truth, Judeas crucified Christ, and in fact it was their Messiah, so about the Judeas everything is known John 8:44 'You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.'
  59. [2.02.2014 13:50:06] Rapla Tt: Know nothing about this, but for the religious mythology, it was the begining of era. We spoke about nowdays and nearest (one-two century) history.
  60. [2.02.2014 13:51:09] Andrey Dageron: But since then Judeas have organized masonic movement and try to run this world, make wars and revolutions, want to take world away from the Christ, they organized liberalism and communism.
  61. [2.02.2014 13:52:31] Rapla Tt: Again, World Conspiracy Theories... Never thought they are so much religious.
  62. [2.02.2014 13:57:35] Andrey Dageron: Your France revolution was openly run by masons, our 1917 by Jews (Lenin, Trotsky, other bolsheviks were not Russians), sended by masons. And they fight against the church and God, while there were a lot of Christian people who resisted evil.
  63. [2.02.2014 14:01:40] Rapla Tt: I think that everything was simplier - some people liked you Russian tsar's politics, some are not. The conflict really was as like as during our French revolution - the poor against the rich, and vice versa. Not masonic, not Jew troubles, just materialistic ones.
  64. [2.02.2014 14:08:26] Andrey Dageron: Russian tsar st.Nicholas II was the force that held the world's evil. And everything in Russia was fine, it was rich country before 1917. Tsar was against liberalism, immorality and cruelty, he was an Orthodox man. During all his life he developed Russia and made Russian nation greater. During the First World War there was a conspiracy, Germans used money from the US loans and sent to the Russian Jewish liars, intelligence agents and agitators - Lenin (jew name: Blank), Trosky (jew name: Bronstein), Voikov (jew name: Vainer-Pinhus), etc. And masons - France, England, hiddenly supported bolsheviks also, despite fact that they were an enemy of Germany. But for everybody the end of Russia was beneficial! France and Britain betrayed White Army then (tsarist army), they betrayed Kolchak and Wrangel.
  65. [2.02.2014 14:13:37] Rapla Tt: Err... Well, I am from France, but know nothing about that. This is the past, this is history, now everything is different.
  66. [2.02.2014 14:15:05] Andrey Dageron: Since the ideas of masons and anti-Christian liberals are alive, ideology of Orthodox people is also alive. And we are against EU/US mass-media, all their depravity, cruelty, immorality. Sorry, I don't want to harm your national pride, but I think that each nation (including French) should go on the path of national salvation.
  67. [2.02.2014 14:16:09] Rapla Tt: Well, I understood.
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