andrea
[03:09:52] sardin: yes?
[03:09:55] ewige.wiederkunft: i need you
[03:10:12] sardin: as a person or to do something?
[03:10:19] ewige.wiederkunft: I'm not talking about afection
[03:10:30] sardin: Then tell me
[03:10:31] ewige.wiederkunft: affection
[03:10:49] ewige.wiederkunft: I need you to gimme advice
[03:11:00] sardin: about
[03:11:08] ewige.wiederkunft: I got dumped by a guy I liked
[03:11:45] ewige.wiederkunft: first things first; everything is wrong
[03:11:57] ewige.wiederkunft: I was really an idiot
[03:12:12] ewige.wiederkunft: he treated me like trash
[03:12:17] sardin: William Ryan Fritch - Heavy EP
Ecclesia di Forss,
Forest Swords Engravings
Chrome Sparks - Goddess EP
Evade
Utopia's ost
https://soundcloud.com/wickedfancywitchdancer/theyre-gonna-eat-your-babies
https://soundcloud.com/daishomusic/daisho-mixtape-preview
https://soundcloud.com/extemporaneousrecordings/sets/mount-buzhou
[03:12:34] ewige.wiederkunft: I'm not gonna cry over
[03:13:02] sardin: I wouldn't despise it
[03:13:19] ewige.wiederkunft: god, I did stupid things
[03:13:21] ewige.wiederkunft: dude
[03:13:23] ewige.wiederkunft: I can't believe
[03:13:32] ewige.wiederkunft: I was super irrational
[03:13:42] ewige.wiederkunft: I want to kill myself now. I'm ashamed
[03:13:43] sardin: rational is a vague concept
[03:14:22] ewige.wiederkunft: It was like I became a little cheesy girl
[03:14:45] sardin: you know I usually say bullshit, there is no real need to rationalize any kind of past impulse, you hardly remember it
[03:15:11] sardin: I might imply that rationalize is good, but it usually just another impulsive reaction
[03:15:37] ewige.wiederkunft: do you want me to explain?
[03:15:44] ewige.wiederkunft: so you can give your opinion
[03:15:50] ewige.wiederkunft: and tell me what I should do
[03:15:57] ewige.wiederkunft: because I need it
[03:18:10] sardin: A person is an organic complexity and any opera is just derivative, rationalism too is a derivative of communities, you know whenever groups are formed there isn't much speculation over things, you shouldn't get influenced by concepts like stupidity or usefulness
[03:18:26] ewige.wiederkunft: I'm feeling so bad
[03:18:28] ewige.wiederkunft: so down
[03:18:38] sardin: what's damaging about it?
[03:18:38] ewige.wiederkunft: mostly because of me acting like this
[03:18:48] ewige.wiederkunft: his conception of me
[03:18:54] ewige.wiederkunft: because I really like him
[03:20:42] sardin: then explain that you were acting on impulse and whatever is his conception of you, should be talked over to see what you can do about it, try to push him into the idea that everything is an act on impulse in order to, in your case it was an act of impulse in order of making him liking you
[03:20:56] sardin: what you've expressed is just circumstantial
[03:21:20] sardin: you could act like a whore if you get the stupid idea it would make him closer
[03:21:40] sardin: but he is acting on impulse too, that's why you have to explain it
[03:21:56] sardin: there isn't any other way to achieve stability in a relationship
[03:21:57] ewige.wiederkunft: you don't even know the story
[03:22:14] sardin: I would assume anyway
[03:22:25] sardin: I'm not you and him
[03:22:50] sardin: I told you the general concept of superstability
[03:23:34] sardin: you both have to recognize that everything was and would be an "in order to" get close
[03:23:53] sardin: if it isn't "in order to get close" for him
[03:24:11] sardin: if he had another "in order to"
[03:24:19] sardin: and whatever was his acting
[03:24:29] sardin: you can only try to understand him
[03:24:34] ewige.wiederkunft: ANDREA
[03:24:38] ewige.wiederkunft: FOR GOD'S SAKE
[03:24:42] ewige.wiederkunft: I know it all
[03:24:47] sardin: then what
[03:24:48] ewige.wiederkunft: I just lost the conception of everything
[03:25:43] sardin: explain
[03:26:46] ewige.wiederkunft: I saw his 3 times only. I felt that I should hurry myself because he could think that I was interested in other boy. so today I said; I like you. he said; I noticed.
he asked; what do you want?
I said; I want you.
he said; I'm a nymphomaniac, I don't date. [ he doesn't has sense of affection nor romanticism] ME NEITHER
[03:27:21] ewige.wiederkunft: then he kissed me. and asked; I already gave you a kiss, what do you want more?
[03:27:24] ewige.wiederkunft: I felt like shit
[03:28:42] sardin: first of all, nymphomaniac in that case is probably a person that think "I can't be understood"
[03:28:51] ewige.wiederkunft: yes
[03:28:55] ewige.wiederkunft: he implied like this
[03:29:01] sardin: giving this pre-concept
[03:29:09] sardin: and the fact that it's a stereotype
[03:29:19] ewige.wiederkunft: I said that I didn't care. so he said; so you have a crazy mind like me?
[03:29:32 | Edited 03:29:43] ewige.wiederkunft: my double dots ain't working I'm using this;;;;;;
[03:30:40] sardin: Why can't you just tell him what he wants to hear?
[03:30:53] ewige.wiederkunft: what does he wants to hear?
[03:32:45] sardin: "I want to have sex with you "in long term" as far as we find ways to enjoy it, whether or not it's for affection towards you it isn't your concern and I don't care illuding myself you could change your preset mentality about it"
[03:32:50] sardin: preset will hurt
[03:32:59] sardin: you can remove it
[03:33:16] sardin: " whether or not it's for affection towards you it isn't your concern "
[03:33:26] sardin: this part is the most important part in these cases
[03:33:33] ewige.wiederkunft: I don't want have sex with him
[03:33:44] sardin: good
[03:33:48] ewige.wiederkunft: I want to be his girlfriend
[03:33:56] ewige.wiederkunft: I want affection with him
[03:34:07] ewige.wiederkunft: but I can't handle
[03:34:08] sardin: alright, you directly want him to be affectionated
[03:34:12] ewige.wiederkunft: yes
[03:35:26] sardin: The way you see guy identifies himself to a concept it's how typically he reply relating to that concept, that's why I assumed with precision
[03:35:36] sardin: then let him realize he is easily redable
[03:35:52] sardin: and destroy his delusion of "never been understood"
[03:35:56] sardin: by sharing this conversation
[03:36:10] sardin: ;)))))))))))))))    [ for mister nymph this emoticon is ironic]
[03:36:42] ewige.wiederkunft: I fucked up everything