bludz - Yesterday at 10:41 PM
cbb it was a pretty not in depth comparison lol just meant its an annoying mon for offense
high jump kicks shit
CrashingBoomBang - Yesterday at 10:45 PM
yea i suppose
but like from experience
i like seeing it more than just about any other mon.
legit.
and all i run is offense
bludz - Yesterday at 10:47 PM
yea
there are other mons which scare me more
definitely
CrashingBoomBang - Yesterday at 11:21 PM
it's legit one of those i thought were gonna be unreasonable in practice
but it's the biggest paper threat
does nothing in practice like 85% of the time
bludz - Yesterday at 11:21 PM
its had a pretty big influence on the meta tho
in terms of like preparing
not on fat teams obv lol
but like offense
but i agree that in practice like
there are other mons which are trickier to handle
like gene
CrashingBoomBang - Yesterday at 11:23 PM
do u think so
bc legit the stuff i have
id run on teams anyway
bludz - Yesterday at 11:23 PM
wel
CrashingBoomBang - Yesterday at 11:23 PM
u cant run anything bar straight up 0 bulk HO without any actually bulky mons
bludz - Yesterday at 11:23 PM
i think it was more so in the beginning when the meta
CrashingBoomBang - Yesterday at 11:23 PM
buzzwole mmeta etc are staples already
bludz - Yesterday at 11:23 PM
first came out
CrashingBoomBang - Yesterday at 11:23 PM
on any offensive team
bludz - Yesterday at 11:23 PM
at this pt its been more established
CrashingBoomBang - Yesterday at 11:23 PM
"but scarfers dont beat it"
not like scarfers beat shit like rp gene either so like idk why ppl use that as an argument. yea it needs a turn to set up but not like thats ever 100% preventable
or rp lando
and u need very specific scarfers to handle shit like dd mence i.e. garchomp nihilego so priority should be 1-2 at least per team anyway
i think it's just natural prep that also just so happens to cover phero
without even trying to cover it in particular
bludz - Yesterday at 11:25 PM
yeah like i said
at this point
but when the meta was new
i felt like
it had a much bigger impact
people trying to react
CrashingBoomBang - Yesterday at 11:25 PM
indeed
it was a "kneejerk reaction" as tdk once so eloquently put it
and i think it sucks because it's ridic hard to justify on any semi bulky offensive team bc it contributes nothing defensively
bludz - Yesterday at 11:26 PM
yar
CrashingBoomBang - Yesterday at 11:26 PM
i was one of the main ppl who thought phero would most defo be broken w/o aegi
but it just never happened lol
bludz - Yesterday at 11:26 PM
yeah
lando  was easily worse
CrashingBoomBang - Yesterday at 11:27 PM
and then u have ppl like njnp
"ban phero and dugtrio"
"i dont play wiht phero bc i only play smogon tours where ppl usually have the decency to not bring it"
bludz - Yesterday at 11:27 PM
lol
CrashingBoomBang - Yesterday at 11:27 PM
so he hasnt even played phero since like
day 2?
and decency more like intelligence
bludz - Yesterday at 11:28 PM
not gonna lie
i kinda hope the other megas dont get released
CrashingBoomBang - Yesterday at 11:29 PM
yea
i rly dont want lopunny or diancie around in particular
bludz - Yesterday at 11:29 PM
yea those are the ones i was thinking of specifically
diancie would be a real pain
and lop was already stupid before the mega buff
CrashingBoomBang - Yesterday at 11:29 PM
theyre both ridiculous yea
lopunny was always ridic