[00:00:19] <Wazwazwaz> *plots Jakul on the battlefield to witnesses Jinwa's death and Shaboto's "Immensely Dishonorable Betrayal"*
[00:01:43] <MaxRoss> For Honor :dummy:
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[00:02:18] <lycansei> Hello children
[00:02:24] <Wazwazwaz> haaaai
[00:02:48] <CreativeAspiration> lycansei: If you call us children do we call you mom?
[00:03:10] <Wazwazwaz> well she does have the Grand-milf as her character
[00:07:47] <CreativeAspiration> lycansei: Anyway, since you seem to be short on time I will just get to the point. As I'm sure you've noticed there are some issues within Fate, many of these issues in regards to the plot and the overall setting. At times, I know myself and of others, things can get rather boring or one simply loses interest in actively participating. I have spoken with the majority of the other Moderators, the exception being Hobbes simply because I didn't have the opportunity to speak with him, about a potential solution. The solution proposed is essentially a retelling of the Fate plot and story and also a rewrite of the current Fate setting.
[00:08:01] <lycansei> CreativeAspiration: they have been
[00:08:19] <lycansei> :paranod:
[00:09:44] <CreativeAspiration> Currently, the lopsided nature of the setting leads to many one-sided conclusions. My hope and aim would be to eliminate this. Notably through having the Jedi and Sith provide more supplemental roles to factions instead of completely being in control of the Two main factions currently around.
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[00:10:22] <lycansei> I...was trying to avoid a reset..
[00:10:57] <Wazwazwaz> Well, he is meaning more of a setting where things get to like he mentioned than a full blown reset.
[00:11:23] <Wazwazwaz> History of the group will still be in place as I was told, just things would get altered to make it much less one sided.
[00:12:14] <CreativeAspiration> Not only to make them less one sided, but to expand possibilities for our members and to further our own creative horizons as moderators and admins to create a funner environment for the members.
[00:12:19] <lycansei> I can consent to a previous history
[00:12:39] <MaxRoss> What do you mean by that?
[00:12:47] <lycansei> But only adjust stories as the creators agree...
[00:13:26] <lycansei> Im just reluctant about adjusting stories much. Not because its one sided...but because of the owrk that has been put in in the past
[00:14:54] <lycansei> Like...omitting older characters that impacted stoy lines at this pint I wouldn't mind
[00:15:35] <lycansei> But if its someone still actve that it concerns fo the eimmdiate action talk to them first, other wise...be careful
[00:17:15] <CreativeAspiration> I can understand that view. It's just been striking to me as of late to see members, and people i consider friends who i do talk to outside of Fate and those I talk to inside of Fate, to be leaving or disappearing simply because they got uninterested. http://sta.sh/0ifd35wf7rp That is something I wrote up earlier. Its far from perfect but it provides a basic idea of what Im getting at.
[00:18:30] <CreativeAspiration> There are many different ways we could go
[00:19:29] <CreativeAspiration> And I firmly believe it could provide a very refreshing look upon Star Wars role play and allow us to grow and evolve as a group.
[00:27:43] <lycansei> I can agree to it so long as you ensure anyone who is active is ok with changes
[00:28:29] <lycansei> I am on live stream which is why Im slow
[00:29:13] <CreativeAspiration> Alright, I can work on a journal centered towards members and sometime tomorrow begin talking to them about it or did you mean everyone who's active upon the Mod and Admin team?
[00:29:37] <lycansei> Jounrla
[00:29:39] <lycansei> for everone
[00:30:30] <CreativeAspiration> Alright
[00:30:31] <MaxRoss> CreativeAspiration: So this idea changes what's already happened?
[00:31:15] <CreativeAspiration> <abbr title="maxross">MaxFace</abbr>: It would probably be an edit to what happened during the last time skip
[00:31:49] <CreativeAspiration> I dunno if that makes sense
[00:32:37] <MaxRoss> We could do another time skip, a smaller one perhaps. To keep from voiding things that's already happened as a result of the last time skip.
[00:34:34] <CreativeAspiration> Perhaps. The sith would have to fracture into the different groups. I just feel a time skip or something of the sort may be difficult to explain with all the things that would have to transpire during that time.
[00:36:14] <MaxRoss> I think the most difficult part about it will be getting our members to read it :p But I have enough confidence in our writing capabilities to pull it off.
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[00:37:59] <CreativeAspiration> Alright. We will have to stress with people that their OC's standings will not but changed and any past RP's will not be voided.
[00:38:49] <lycansei> If you ask consent but they dont respond...:shrug:
[00:39:06] <lycansei> know what I mean?
[00:39:20] <CreativeAspiration> Lmao, sounds bad but yes, I suppose i do xD
[00:39:44] <MaxRoss> But before we do that we'll want to determine how long it'd be. And before that we'll want to finish all the edits and updates we'll be doing with our journals.
[00:39:53] <lycansei> What he said
[00:42:54] <CreativeAspiration> Should be easy enough seeing as we were drawing to the conclusion of them anyway
[00:43:53] <CreativeAspiration> The changes and updates that is
[00:44:00] <MaxRoss> :nod:
[00:44:03] <MaxRoss> Speaking of
[00:44:20] <MaxRoss> I think the OC creation guide and the blank template should be combined into one to simplify it.
[00:44:38] <MaxRoss> If we're able to do that properly, it'd be easier for our newcomers.
[00:44:44] <Epic64> good idea
[00:45:09] <CreativeAspiration> I need to get my booty on some sheets. I can do that, tomorrow though x.x; I am currently deprived of sleep and don't have the mind for HTML
[00:45:37] <MaxRoss> CreativeAspiration: It is an exhausting feat :p perhaps the creative's aspiration should let himself sleep
[00:45:39] <Epic64> this is a side bar on the story thing btw, I don't know if everyone was here for the Jen Wo stuff, but I sort of suggested that type of idea as a like a loose terrorist group that could help add depth to our stories
[00:46:00] <Epic64> It sort of ended up being a one and done thing, though since a few events kind of got away from the original idea
[00:46:20] <Epic64> But I think a small gorilla group of powerful force users that are completely rogue would serve us well
[00:46:40] <Epic64> as it allows us to have events that break up monotony of jedi vs sith or mondo
[00:47:14] <Epic64> and when we do have those events, we can unravel connections between the terrorist type events and the main group's doings and sort of weave a deeper plot line
[00:48:07] <Epic64> Let's one event reveals the group is working wth blah blah blah, and then another reveals that the event they just had was like a rouse to set up another big event that maybe involves everyone
[00:48:11] <Epic64> etc etc
[00:48:17] <CreativeAspiration> I feel that once we anchor down the new setting we could begin discussing things like that.
[00:48:29] <Epic64> Fair, just a thought.
[00:48:51] <Epic64> * cha cha slides 2 tha side now *
[00:49:06] <CreativeAspiration> Epic64: A fair thought as well, I don't mean to discredit it in anyway
[00:49:30] <Epic64> Oh nah you're good, didn't take it that way.
[00:49:31] <CreativeAspiration> Discredit... that may not be the word im looking for... maybe diminish would've been better.
[00:50:11] <CreativeAspiration> Epic64: Alright, just wanted to make sure things are all good :thumbsup: It's nice to see you and LtHobbes coming back around more often though.
[00:50:37] <Epic64> Have some time since I quit my job and am taking night/online classes
[00:50:51] <Epic64> So it's a pleasure to be back
[00:50:51] <lycansei> niice
[00:54:37] <CreativeAspiration> Epic64: Here I thought it was may irresistible personality dragging you back to us but alas, i was mistaken
[00:54:59] <CreativeAspiration> my*
[00:55:33] <Wazwazwaz> It's not Crea. he agrees your pikachu Mr. Fluffles is dead weight on your team.
[00:55:42] <Epic64> I mean that too
[00:55:44] <Epic64> but ye
[00:55:57] <CreativeAspiration> Epic64: :lol:
[00:56:13] <MaxRoss> Epic64: Since you've been away I should let you know :p
[00:56:39] <MaxRoss> Epic64: I'm starting to back away, allowing you and the others to take more responsibility in terms of writing the blogs and editing the sheets and Role-Playing with members.
[00:57:26] <CreativeAspiration> Wazwazwaz: Mr. Fluffles is an amazing and very important member of my Pokemon team and we would be in shamble if he were to leave us, how dare you insult him
[00:57:35] <Epic64> Cool, can't say I'm be as consistent as I once when I first started admining but I'll do my best :0
[00:57:40] <MaxRoss> Which is why our journals are looking much nicer :D
[00:57:55] <CreativeAspiration> Wazwazwaz: Sad.
[00:58:02] <Wazwazwaz> You have a swords dance Garchomp that oneshots anything! Mr. Fluffles just sits on the sidelines with pompoms
[00:58:31] <CreativeAspiration> Wazwazwaz: VERY IMPORTANT MEMBER
[00:58:36] <Epic64> Ahhh Garchomp
[00:58:50] <Epic64> I had a Garchomp my first playthrough of Pokemon Y that was fucking stupid
[00:59:02] <Wazwazwaz> *still roles in the nostalgia invoked by Pokemon Academy Life*
[00:59:18] <Epic64> He was level 50 something and stronger than my level 60s smh
[00:59:19] <Wazwazwaz> *has resolved to pwn Lance's Dragonite with pikachu just as a titanic middle finger*
[00:59:30] <Wazwazwaz> Garchomps are OP
[00:59:38] <Epic64> Didn't even get the Garchompite
[00:59:49] <Epic64> that would've been disgusting
[01:00:57] <Wazwazwaz> eh
[01:01:06] <Wazwazwaz> my Ace is always Swampert
[01:01:14] <Epic64> eI also had a broken Swampert
[01:01:18] <Wazwazwaz> so I normally never have a garchomp cause ground is covered
[01:01:27] <Epic64> In pokemon Y via wonder trade
[01:02:00] <Wazwazwaz> heh
[01:02:12] <Wazwazwaz> I was watching Nate and Dookie's latest wonderlocke
[01:02:19] <Wazwazwaz> poor Dookie's gible
[01:47:38] <MaxRoss> GoldenWarrior12 has decided that they won't be joining us after all
[01:47:41] <MaxRoss> For those who care xD
[01:50:11] <Wazwazwaz> not really no. I had a feeling things would of been a massive uphill trek with them
[01:50:54] <CreativeAspiration> ooonuuuu not GoldenWarrior12, whatever shall we do with them
[01:51:23] <MaxRoss> lol
[01:51:35] <MaxRoss> Everyone stars somewhere guys :p keep that in mind
[01:51:41] <Wazwazwaz> we will.....
[01:51:48] <Wazwazwaz> sacrifice MaxRoss to the sun
[01:52:09] <MaxRoss> ;p i'll pass Wazzy, I think I'll obey the moon and sleep instead
[01:52:43] <MaxRoss> Cya folks :wave:
[01:52:44] <Wazwazwaz> THE SUN HAS SPOKEN! *stas MaxRoss*
[01:52:57] <MaxRoss> CreativeAspiration: <sub><sub>Get some rest sooooon</sub></sub>
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[03:32:56] <lycansei> :yawn:
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[03:33:07] <Wazwazwaz> webas
[03:33:19] <Wazwazwaz> *is finishing up grammarly of novel chapter before bed*
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[13:37:38] <The-Red-Right-Hand> eyyy
[13:37:43] <LtHobbes> howdy
[13:39:05] <The-Red-Right-Hand> hows it rocking?
[13:39:27] <LtHobbes> could be better
[13:41:11] <The-Red-Right-Hand> whats up dude?
[13:45:22] <LtHobbes> i injured my arm
[13:45:28] <LtHobbes> i might need surgery
[13:45:54] <The-Red-Right-Hand> awh fuck dude, really sorry to hear :S
[13:45:57] <The-Red-Right-Hand> hope its nothing to dier
[13:47:50] <The-Red-Right-Hand> also so hype for all these fun changes comi nalong //weep
[13:47:51] <The-Red-Right-Hand> coming*
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[13:53:16] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yooo
[13:53:22] <Wazwazwaz> haaai
[13:53:43] <The-Red-Right-Hand> eyyyyss
[13:53:45] <The-Red-Right-Hand> hows it kickin?
[13:54:07] <Wazwazwaz> eh, cant complain
[13:55:00] <The-Red-Right-Hand> good goood up to moch?
[14:01:28] <Wazwazwaz> naaah
[14:01:41] <The-Red-Right-Hand> ah cooooool
[14:01:51] <The-Red-Right-Hand> also heard you and creative sorted things out?
[14:02:22] <Wazwazwaz> yep
[14:02:49] <The-Red-Right-Hand> goood goooood from what I hear sounds like a good middle ground was reached, :U! some ideas got me very excited to hear too
[14:03:44] <Wazwazwaz> I just want to make sure we get to point B without trashing everything
[14:04:25] <The-Red-Right-Hand> that sounds fair, think an idea of a time skip of sorts or transitioning but giving people an option to not fiddle to deep with age, idk a lot of up in the air gray stuff but sounds like good ideas all around
[14:05:02] <The-Red-Right-Hand> simpler (but more solid) faction ideas too, but a lot of its just me bouncing ideas about after fiddling with the class sheet again :P
[14:08:39] <Wazwazwaz> well, I think we should keep our 'main' factions still present and important
[14:08:46] <Wazwazwaz> main being jedi, mandos, sith and other
[14:12:10] <The-Red-Right-Hand> we'll work it out, ideal I quiet liked and worked up a bit more that there is two factions, jedi and sith play roles in it but its not (here is the jedi's running the good guys here is the sith running the bad) Kind of like the movies where you have the republic and the jedi, and in starwars rebels where you have the empire and the (kind of) sith. Those are the two big factions and then you have groups in the middle, mandos, pirates, travlers, smugglers that sort of jam. Not sure how it work but I like the idea that it makes things easier
[14:12:38] <The-Red-Right-Hand> but I agree with the bott
[14:13:08] <The-Red-Right-Hand> mandos I do think are big, (hence why they are players in the middle) but yeah not as big as the two sides. BUT this does mean they are flexible for players
[14:13:20] <The-Red-Right-Hand> and yeah so far we have very few mandos XD so its not gonna tip any balances
[14:14:14] <The-Red-Right-Hand> but still very game for keeping them in
[14:14:28] <Wazwazwaz> *executes the sith so they aren't a very big playerbase* :I
[14:14:41] <The-Red-Right-Hand> lol remember, we are doing this for the players
[14:14:43] <The-Red-Right-Hand> not ourselfs
[14:15:01] <The-Red-Right-Hand> still these are ideas up in the air at this point
[14:15:54] <Wazwazwaz> I would rather we not just go and discard the factions not sith and jedi
[14:16:05] <Wazwazwaz> even if their player bases aren't the biggest right now &gt;.&gt;
[14:17:33] <The-Red-Right-Hand> why I like the idea that jedi and sith are not the key elements in these factions. Like I really dig this idea that hte 'good' guys are a republic, a kind of mix of rebele mix match of different army's, and we have the empire like bad guys on the other, using (or being used?) the sith I always felt in the movies and shows those where the bigger and more important parts. Plus lets face it given our track record mandos switch sides when ever they want, so it makes sense for them to be a smaller grouping in the middle
[14:18:25] <The-Red-Right-Hand> could we honestly see them settling to a 'united people' like attitude or knuckling under dictatorship? They're far to free spirited and open, why they're better suited in the middle grouping (how ever we work with that)
[14:18:36] <The-Red-Right-Hand> not going to discord them though
[14:18:49] <The-Red-Right-Hand> they are a hell of a lot of fun
[14:21:37] <The-Red-Right-Hand> ooo an idea creative did bounce around that there is a % power system, or at least an easy way to tell who is 'winning' sort of thing. Found that quite cool, especially since as a member (like many others) no one kept up to date with the maps or really knew the overall standing
[14:22:01] <The-Red-Right-Hand> now we can sort of easy hint/ exsplain a push and pull of power depending on how things go, make it alllllll easy to consume
[14:25:52] <Nabuak> Do any of you have an idea or outline on how to implement such a system?
[14:27:11] <The-Red-Right-Hand> a % system?
[14:28:27] <The-Red-Right-Hand> I've got a rough idea, but really it could just be us making it up as we go, say the event is huge and one side losse it takes them down to a lower % its just to give poeple idea of whos winning
[14:35:42] <The-Red-Right-Hand> I mean i'd imagen, dont have to keep it automated or with points since that would just be a nut ake when we can make it on the fly
[14:37:29] <LtHobbes> oh man
[14:37:40] <LtHobbes> can i vote not to turn this into tabletop roleplaying?
[14:37:43] <LtHobbes> i do that already
[14:38:04] <LtHobbes> and in my opinion
[14:38:07] <LtHobbes> we have it way better
[14:38:38] <The-Red-Right-Hand> hhoho imagne the % thing would just be like a overview on it because in the war between jedi and sith now I have no clue who is 'winning'
[14:38:47] <The-Red-Right-Hand> but yeah no automation or numbers, just making shiz up
[14:39:08] <The-Red-Right-Hand> <s>but he says this as a D&amp;M and loves that shiz</s>
[14:39:17] <The-Red-Right-Hand> DM*
[14:39:37] <The-Red-Right-Hand> idk I'm not married on it but thought it was a cool idea :P not exactly the top of our issue list
[14:40:52] <Nabuak> Our primary concern is preparation. We need to finish up this event, and some more stories. Meanwhile we'll be finishing updating and reformatting our journals and sheets.
[14:41:46] <The-Red-Right-Hand> true true, long as we know what we're going into, though to be fair I did jump the gun on the class's XD may as well just re-skin that journal and not amend the text since its changing up a bit
[14:45:47] <Wazwazwaz> ....
[14:45:59] <Wazwazwaz> <s>the sith aren't gonna have a good time after this update</s>
[14:46:33] <The-Red-Right-Hand> hopefully the jedi wii :U!
[14:46:57] <LtHobbes> so are we doing another time skip?
[14:48:16] <The-Red-Right-Hand> possibly, idea like that seemed to float about, means we can sort of re-jig the story so it works smoother and we kept to keep all the history
[14:49:35] <The-Red-Right-Hand> though if we did I suggested we be a little flexible with age &gt;&gt; just because my characters are so damn old
[14:50:11] <The-Red-Right-Hand> that and no one really keeps track or seems to mind since everyones OC is sort of mid years XD
[14:53:39] <Wazwazwaz> mid-years or long lived species
[14:53:52] <The-Red-Right-Hand> true dat
[14:54:00] <The-Red-Right-Hand> and Razz and captain Jax are so damn old now
[14:54:32] <The-Red-Right-Hand> well old enough to not start granting 'old age' as a weakness :P and both those are pumped full of science
[14:55:58] <Wazwazwaz> *sets them with Bry and Elise to have old people party*
[14:56:31] <The-Red-Right-Hand> lol sadly being a force user is the only way to negate old people weakness's :P
[14:56:40] <The-Red-Right-Hand> <s> why we got to nerf the space wizards</s>
[14:57:35] <Wazwazwaz> or being a amazing soldier/warrior
[14:58:26] <The-Red-Right-Hand> true dat
[14:58:35] <The-Red-Right-Hand> got to give those pirates, smugglers, gun slingers and mandos a chance
[14:59:16] <Wazwazwaz> Well they do. each tends to be far better armed than jedi/sith
[15:02:07] <The-Red-Right-Hand> true that but jedi/sith do have all those poweres, and people do forget their not imortal, i mean look at viekas for example :U
[15:02:15] <The-Red-Right-Hand> got to humble those force useres
[15:02:18] <The-Red-Right-Hand> humble em real good
[15:02:23] <Wazwazwaz> true
[15:02:32] <Wazwazwaz> also you get the posts I noted to you?
[15:05:32] <The-Red-Right-Hand> ahyes I did! I'll get on that right now
[15:07:04] <The-Red-Right-Hand> Nabuak: also i'm waiting until events end before we count up points, also leaving a comment like 'thanks' to the notes so we know they've been looked at and points have been added
[15:09:43] <The-Red-Right-Hand> also like how in sithmans poinst he didn't seem to register Po :D
[15:10:42] <Wazwazwaz> yeaaah
[15:10:57] <Wazwazwaz> he doesn't seem to understand the concept of 2v1s and that it isn't favorable for Veikas
[15:11:39] <The-Red-Right-Hand> nope, but that is gonna really bite him~
[15:11:50] <LtHobbes> it already does
[15:12:07] <LtHobbes> he doesn't get a lot of rp time because no one wants to rp with someone who has to win all the time
[15:12:31] <The-Red-Right-Hand> lol which is ironic because he's lost most events he's been in
[15:12:53] <The-Red-Right-Hand> a lot of 'well I do this, but if that doesn't work then I do that' in his posts
[15:14:30] <Wazwazwaz> not to mention his character tends to avoid the vast majority of any attack
[15:16:52] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yop, in this big change, nerfing viekas and setting solid ground that members (like sithman) can't just uproot the story to their own way will give mea terrible satisfaction
[15:18:18] <The-Red-Right-Hand> also force stun to the spine :eyes:
[15:20:55] <LtHobbes> I think if we're going to repremand sithman we should explain to him why we're doing it in addition to whatever we do to his character
[15:21:24] <The-Red-Right-Hand> ehh I htink the general nerfing of force power is enough, if it gets worse then we can talk to him one to one
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[15:23:10] <Wazwazwaz> It's a Max
[15:23:14] <Wazwazwaz> everyone run!
[15:23:31] <MaxRoss> :evillaugh:
[15:23:32] <The-Red-Right-Hand> eyyyyysss
[15:23:35] <MaxRoss> Hello
[15:23:41] <The-Red-Right-Hand> oh sweet lord
[15:23:48] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yoooooo
[15:25:41] <MaxRoss> For those who haven't read the entirety of my summaries in the group note, so far the following have died in this event: Nathan Sand, Knight Ovren, Ranik Qapak, Darth Zaion, Jinwa Kaa, Garos Aman, Imperial Arsol
[15:26:17] <Wazwazwaz> .....
[15:26:21] <Wazwazwaz> god damn
[15:26:22] <MaxRoss> Serana and Darth Cadaver will follow
[15:28:13] <Wazwazwaz> Lots of dead this event
[15:28:25] <Wazwazwaz> *kills Nebula for good measure*
[15:29:30] <The-Red-Right-Hand> wait cads :U ?! creatives?
[15:29:42] <Wazwazwaz> si
[15:29:46] <The-Red-Right-Hand> shit :U
[15:29:52] <The-Red-Right-Hand> this rate tharax is going to be the only sith left
[15:29:59] <The-Red-Right-Hand> in the empire*
[15:30:03] <The-Red-Right-Hand> <s> tharax and viekas &gt;&gt;</s>
[15:30:09] <Wazwazwaz> might keep Shaboto alive to help counter that
[15:33:02] <MaxRoss> In that case, I'll have to change the end of the rebel arc
[15:48:44] <LtHobbes> o.o
[15:50:01] <MaxRoss> Hobbes, it's nice to see you here.
[15:52:18] <The-Red-Right-Hand> all those modss
[15:52:20] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yisss
[15:54:38] <LtHobbes> well i'm trying to come back from my hiatus
[15:54:40] <LtHobbes> x.x
[15:54:48] <The-Red-Right-Hand> awh yiss returnn :eyes:~
[15:55:59] <MaxRoss> Trying is better than not :p
[15:56:17] <The-Red-Right-Hand> doin good :U!
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[16:02:56] <The-Red-Right-Hand> eyy almsot full team!
[16:07:32] <The-Red-Right-Hand> MaxRoss: LtHobbes lt joining the overseers too?
[16:11:47] <MaxRoss> The-Red-Right-Hand: Yes, once his sheet's in you may promote him.
[16:12:04] <MaxRoss> Epic64: LtHobbes I put you two in the Force-Ghosts class to remind you to finish up your sheets :D
[16:12:41] <Epic64> it worked
[16:12:45] <Epic64> sort of
[16:12:52] <Epic64> Got around to it eventually
[16:12:54] <The-Red-Right-Hand> awh yiss cool cool!
[16:14:13] * The-Red-Right-Hand is away: overwatching still srota here
[16:17:51] <MaxRoss> Once I've stepped down, do you all want me to continue to stay on solely to keep the http://fateofthejedi.deviantart.com/admin/forum-1254401726/ (Bot Logs) updated?
[16:18:35] <MaxRoss> lycansei: The-Red-Right-Hand LtHobbes Epic64 Wazwazwaz ^
[16:18:35] <The-Red-Right-Hand> MaxRoss: I've been away for 4 minutes, 22 seconds. Reason: overwatching still srota here
[16:20:32] <The-Red-Right-Hand> are you like full leaving leaving :U ?
[16:21:15] <MaxRoss> I will no longer be on the Team, only operating within the group solely to keep the bot logs updated for you all.
[16:21:56] <The-Red-Right-Hand> ahhh I see I see
[16:21:59] <MaxRoss> My only living active OC by then will be Jorn, excluding the Mandalorian and Jedi I had go MIA.
[16:22:40] <The-Red-Right-Hand> ahh I see I seee
[16:22:43] <The-Red-Right-Hand> //derps
[16:22:49] <The-Red-Right-Hand> but thats fair, hame though :U glad to hear you're still rping
[16:23:05] <Wazwazwaz> MaxRoss: honestly? Yes. This is mostly because I have the ability to work bots like a chimp
[16:24:15] <MaxRoss> I no longer feel like I can properly handle being in charge of everything. From constantly dealing with complaints towards other members or members of the Team, to the constant flip flopping of ideas both in Role-Play and out. I'll be glad to step away from it all, if not forever then for at least a little while.
[16:25:39] <The-Red-Right-Hand> thats fair dude
[16:27:35] <LtHobbes> The-Red-Right-Hand: MaxRoss I still need to make mine
[16:27:35] <The-Red-Right-Hand> LtHobbes: I've been away for 13 minutes, 22 seconds. Reason: overwatching still srota here
[16:27:50] <LtHobbes> you're stepping down MaxRoss? whos the new dark lord?
[16:28:49] <MaxRoss> LtHobbes: I know, it's why you've yet to be put back where you belong in Fate.
[16:29:42] <MaxRoss> LtHobbes: I'll be discussing that with Lycan, for now we should focus on setting up what needs setting up.
[16:30:07] <MaxRoss> i.e updates/reformats/Rp's
[16:30:13] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yiisss
[16:32:03] <MaxRoss> Of course, my stepping down stays in this Room :paranoid:
[16:32:16] <The-Red-Right-Hand> sure sure
[16:32:33] <MaxRoss> Not that I need to tell any of you that. Most of you have known for a long time anyways ;p Epic and Lt were the only ones who missed it.
[16:35:32] <MaxRoss> Wazwazwaz: The-Red-Right-Hand This will push our Rebel Arc to finish sooner than later, we'll have to get our OC's colluding sometime after the Kenobi Aftermath is released. Shaboto won't die, by the way.
[16:35:32] <The-Red-Right-Hand> MaxRoss: I've been away for 21 minutes, 19 seconds. Reason: overwatching still srota here
[16:35:50] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yeahh
[16:37:13] <LtHobbes> obviously
[16:37:18] <LtHobbes> not going to go blabbing lol
[16:37:24] <MaxRoss> lol
[16:38:20] <MaxRoss> Malik thinks he still has control over Tharax, so when Shaboto goes to meet with Gengin the Stennes Shifter will likely take part in the meeting. From there we'll work on the process of how they'll weaken the Empire and what's to come.
[16:38:25] <MaxRoss> The-Red-Right-Hand: Wazwazwaz ^
[16:38:25] <The-Red-Right-Hand> MaxRoss: I've been away for 24 minutes, 12 seconds. Reason: overwatching still srota here
[16:38:59] <The-Red-Right-Hand> sounds good
[16:39:10] <The-Red-Right-Hand> then we can figure out what to do with the time skip and whats hte end result of it
[16:39:46] <MaxRoss> What i'm talking about will all happen before that, but yes we can discuss it.
[16:39:58] <MaxRoss> People won't be happy about it, not so soon after the last one.
[16:40:54] <The-Red-Right-Hand> its that or we keep things as they are
[16:41:43] <MaxRoss> Epic64: LtHobbes Do you two think we should change things around Fate drastically or keep things as they are?
[16:44:20] <The-Red-Right-Hand> story/rankings/factions*
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[16:44:52] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yooo
[16:45:04] <MaxRoss> Hey Creative
[16:45:14] <Epic64> MaxRoss: I think I gradually change would be good
[16:45:34] <Epic64> Like I think we could rearrange a few things without too drastic a retcon
[16:45:44] <MaxRoss> Epic64: We were in the process of that, but others disagree with that tactic.
[16:45:52] <Epic64> Hmm
[16:45:59] <Epic64> I think there's an in between to be had
[16:46:07] <Epic64> I think it's mostly the execution
[16:46:44] <MaxRoss> The execution of any and all changes will be important. I won't likely be here for that though.
[16:47:21] <MaxRoss> So that'll be left to those who remain.
[16:47:59] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yis yis
[16:48:04] <CreativeAspiration> I feel a gradual change is just gonna be... I dunno, dragged on. If we can just confront the members like "Hey, we noticed some issues and we are making these changes to fix this"
[16:48:09] <CreativeAspiration> I think it could go alright
[16:48:15] <Epic64> Bet, okay. So I mabe used wrong word
[16:48:53] <The-Red-Right-Hand> time skips always the best way, have the story with the downfall of the sith play on, sets up a kind of 'EPISODE 3: electric boogaloo'
[16:50:27] <MaxRoss> Should we take that path, how long do you all think we should make it?
[16:50:31] <MaxRoss> Our last one was three years
[16:51:05] <The-Red-Right-Hand> 2-3? I mean enough time where things can change faction wise to keep things ballanced enough
[16:51:19] <The-Red-Right-Hand> to be fair we've changed up things un x amount of time dont think anyone keeps count bar the mods :P
[16:51:57] <The-Red-Right-Hand> bar like me and Z because of age
[16:52:39] <MaxRoss> The changes we're suggesting are on a much larger scale, if it takes more than a year to logically implement it we should let the members know. It's also important to know what year it is in the room.
[16:53:06] <CreativeAspiration> Long enough but I had a discussion with Red about age of OC's and a time-skip can put characters into their older ages and that can cause severe character changes, so perhaps we just chill on people changing their ages?
[16:53:33] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yeah sort of 'cheat code it' since we are changing hte group and long perid of time reall do affect OC's
[16:53:47] <CreativeAspiration> The 3-year skip back in... October?? Was somewhat of an excessive jump imo for what happened
[16:56:41] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yiiiii think 3 is enough for what we have planned
[16:57:16] <MaxRoss> If that's what everyone agrees on
[16:57:45] <MaxRoss> With that decided, what will we be having happen during these three years?
[16:58:07] <The-Red-Right-Hand> ops hold on I got an idea for the end result based on what me and creative talked on
[16:58:08] <MaxRoss> Or
[16:58:17] <CreativeAspiration> Hodear, so much
[16:58:18] <MaxRoss> Will we even say it's been three years?
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[17:01:41] <MaxRoss> If we don't, in the journal that describes the changes, members won't ask questions about whether or not they have to update the age of their OC's, and we won't have to worry about changing the room's year.
[17:02:29] <The-Red-Right-Hand> so my idea was that we divide the factions into two sides, good guys being the republic, aided by the Jedi order. This is a a mix of the republic political system but the rebels militery where its a really miss match of ships and fleets. Thed bad guys are the empire/fell and the Sith, in a sort of clone wars vibe to them where the sith aid in as generals and such. then you have poeple in the middle like mandos, pirates and what not that are kind of a lil independant (still need to figure that) Point being the jedi and the sith are like minor roles to their factions, so we dont have army's of sith v army's of jedi. Think clone wars of force envolvment vs old republic
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[17:06:22] <MaxRoss> Alright
[17:11:48] <CreativeAspiration> <abbr title="the-red-right-hand">TheRedRightFace</abbr>: http://sta.sh/0275n6k7kcnn Was thinking Blue is Rebellion/Republic, Red Empire and Sith, Orange is the Criminal sect, and purple is like the Confederacy of Outlaying Systems or something like that.
[17:11:48] <The-Red-Right-Hand> CreativeAspiration: I've been away for 57 minutes, 35 seconds. Reason: overwatching still srota here
[17:14:00] <The-Red-Right-Hand> ooo back to 4 systems? I can dig that
[17:14:15] <The-Red-Right-Hand> played around with class's / rankings https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P-zKpM1hv5k6V9O1drCeRr7Sr7PGaDSrOJ3iVDuiLJQ/edit?usp=sharing
[17:14:27] <The-Red-Right-Hand> (the alt class's thin)
[17:19:46] <CreativeAspiration> <abbr title="the-red-right-hand">TheRedRightFace</abbr>: Yeah, i was think the fourth would be like, corporate and all about money. The military is all PMC's and droids, feel like it could be interesting.
[17:19:47] <The-Red-Right-Hand> CreativeAspiration: I've been away for 1 hour, 5 minutes, 33 seconds. Reason: overwatching still srota here
[17:21:09] <The-Red-Right-Hand> could be a place to throw the mandos in the mix? sort of a covernant of individuals sorta?
[17:24:11] <CreativeAspiration> Well, if a Mandalorian clan wants to go there and do it they wouldn't be stopped. Im sure some bounty hunters were hired into it as instructors or commanders.
[17:24:25] <CreativeAspiration> Kinda like Jango and the Kaminoans
[17:24:49] <The-Red-Right-Hand> just to sort of sepierate the criminals and band them with the kind of illegal types reacon business would sort of incorporate whrever vs having territories
[17:26:54] <MaxRoss> The-Red-Right-Hand: Some inspiration you could draw from. We used to incorporate these before Gleneral (Our Derriphan) disappeared and Malik brought the Jen'Jidai and Veikas (Our Saraai-Kaar) to ruin. http://fateofthejedi.deviantart.com/admin/forum-943139472/306234/
[17:26:54] <The-Red-Right-Hand> MaxRoss: I've been away for 1 hour, 12 minutes, 41 seconds. Reason: overwatching still srota here
[17:28:02] <The-Red-Right-Hand> hmm true I'm just thinking keeping hte factions relatable
[17:28:08] <The-Red-Right-Hand> rebles, empire, mandos, pirates
[17:28:11] <The-Red-Right-Hand> that ssorta jam
[17:34:04] <CreativeAspiration> <abbr title="the-red-right-hand">TheRedRightFace</abbr>: Yeah, the corporations would basically be reskinned CIS from the clone wars
[17:34:05] <The-Red-Right-Hand> CreativeAspiration: I've been away for 1 hour, 19 minutes, 51 seconds. Reason: overwatching still srota here
[17:35:26] <The-Red-Right-Hand> oh? bring droids back, guess that could work, idk just feel a bit funny since who would join that group? Why I liked the two faction thing, easy for people to pick. I mean we've scaled down mando's (which would be more popular that a CIS thing) and I dont feel cool adding in just another faction because it sounds interesting
[17:35:32] <The-Red-Right-Hand> has to be 'what faction will players join'
[17:35:42] <The-Red-Right-Hand> best to have two and group factions into that
[17:35:59] <The-Red-Right-Hand> and I think classic rebels/republic v empire is our best bet given the theme of future films
[17:40:41] <CreativeAspiration> -shrug- I dunno, was just an idea
[17:41:57] <The-Red-Right-Hand> I think keep the factions easily relatable and would people join them, or have oc's who can already join them
[17:44:30] <CreativeAspiration> Maybe we then make the purple area just consistent of independent factions that don't align to the Imperials or Rebels? Kind of just, grey area?
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[17:45:52] <The-Red-Right-Hand> hmmm idk territory wise its up to you how that works out but I think the best idea was an easy red team v blue team, then orange in the middle as smaller groups
[17:45:58] <The-Red-Right-Hand> keep it simple
[17:46:04] <The-Red-Right-Hand> what do people think?
[17:48:01] <MaxRoss> My opinion doesn't matter anymore.
[17:48:22] <MaxRoss> Wazwazwaz: Epic64 What are your thoughts?
[17:51:00] <Wazwazwaz> I support the idea of making a good idea of where the Blue team and red team are with lots of grey in between to represent those wanting nothing to do with the war
[17:54:28] <Epic64> that'd be good, we can also establish groups that sort of function as a sort wild card type thing, it would help prevent pressure from certain groups for events
[17:54:54] <The-Red-Right-Hand> that was my idea for the pirates and mandos, the wild cards that have their own intentions, like wise for any other type of faction we want to put in there for story and what not
[17:55:07] <Epic64> ye&lt; I'm wit it
[18:01:13] <CreativeAspiration> Alright, my thoughts with the independent systems in http://sta.sh/0275n6k7kcnn the purple area was that could also give us room to grow like, independent factions in it once we go ahead with a plot. I dunno if that makes sense really
[18:01:39] <The-Red-Right-Hand> what would we do with the indepdant factions?
[18:01:49] <The-Red-Right-Hand> how do players interactive with
[18:02:36] <CreativeAspiration> Well, it's a "neutral" zone of sorts. It could provide diplomatic missions for some Jedi and even Sith
[18:03:13] <CreativeAspiration> While also given us a place to develop member groups.
[18:03:17] <The-Red-Right-Hand> dont mind a kind of neuteral zone to be fair I like the idea that territories are more blogs not full spanned out areas, like you can't hold all the planets maybe some choose not to
[18:03:23] <The-Red-Right-Hand> hmm member groups
[18:03:43] <The-Red-Right-Hand> only two people made sucessful ones, and that was us :U it gave people lots of power, lets not forget endor who made an entire kingdom and all the seceret groups
[18:04:06] <CreativeAspiration> Not like, member groups in that sense
[18:04:38] <The-Red-Right-Hand> idk bar one event I made we didn't eem to get much use out of groups beyond the seceret groups
[18:04:58] <The-Red-Right-Hand> but I like the idea of neutral space, poping up groups for the sake of events if that makes sense?
[18:05:14] <The-Red-Right-Hand> neutral space, but have it more in between the grouping factions?
[18:07:11] <Epic64> We just need to make a group that operates on both big and small levels
[18:07:15] <CreativeAspiration> I will work more on the map, that was real rough but I got some good ideas rn
[18:07:35] <CreativeAspiration> Good ideas involving y'alls ideas not jus my own
[18:07:46] <Epic64> And a character who can pose a threat to random encounters on jedi missions and cause ridiculous amounts of chaos on the same foot
[18:08:11] <Epic64> I think that requires a criminal element, personally
[18:08:15] <Epic64> Crime boss type
[18:08:36] <Epic64> can play both sides
[18:09:04] <The-Red-Right-Hand> that sounds good
[18:09:30] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yeah I dig neuteral space, like gaps where a faction has no clontrol over like cracks in the gallaxy where we can just make rando groups for plot / mission events
[18:10:43] <CreativeAspiration> I'll even throw some neutral zones in Alliance/Rebel territory and sith/imperial territory. Just small groups of systems that aint want nothing to do with shit
[18:11:27] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yeahh that sounds good
[18:13:26] <CreativeAspiration> Don't really think the crime bosses would acknowledge neutral zones so i dont believe there'll be anything in the crime sect
[18:14:40] <The-Red-Right-Hand> soo like crime would sorta be hidden around orrr?
[18:15:29] <CreativeAspiration> well, that and no neutral zones in the crime area
[18:15:43] <The-Red-Right-Hand> oh yeah that makes sense o3o!
[18:20:01] <The-Red-Right-Hand> should the blobs of crime reprsent the middle ground groups?
[18:20:15] <The-Red-Right-Hand> so we have goods, bads, then middle so that way its not just criem, but mandos, business's all that stuff
[18:20:26] <CreativeAspiration> sure
[18:20:35] <CreativeAspiration> Kind of just a free for all area of the galaxy
[18:20:45] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yeahh that way we dont have ot keep changing to point out 'this is that thing'
[18:21:34] <CreativeAspiration> And i'll do a blow up of the crime area and kind of outline what kind of faction was strongest influence in that area etc
[18:21:45] <CreativeAspiration> has*
[18:22:51] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yeahhhh that sounds good figure out what the 'gray area bits' are
[18:22:56] <The-Red-Right-Hand> can have those kinds of ICS groups and mandos in there
[18:23:02] <CreativeAspiration> Mhhm
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[18:24:23] <The-Red-Right-Hand> hows everyone else feeling about it so far?
[18:25:50] <CreativeAspiration> Speak now or forever hold you tongue!
[18:26:48] <The-Red-Right-Hand> hoho XD
[18:26:55] <The-Red-Right-Hand> Wazwazwaz: what you think dude?
[18:27:24] <CreativeAspiration> <abbr title="maxross">MaxFace</abbr>: And your opinion still matters dood
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[18:35:01] <Wazwazwaz> feel on the red side, blue side, independant side thing?
[18:35:23] <Wazwazwaz> Basicallt where it is the 2 warring factions and then those caught in between (independants)
[18:35:56] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yeahhhh!
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[19:06:50] <Wazwazwaz> brb for food
[19:08:18] <CreativeAspiration> Imma get this map thing established then imma go drum
[19:13:58] <The-Red-Right-Hand> fuckchristthisnewguy
[19:21:39] <CreativeAspiration> what new guy?
[19:22:57] <The-Red-Right-Hand> lol the guy who just came in
[19:23:01] <The-Red-Right-Hand> his page was just pure hentia
[19:26:42] <CreativeAspiration> Ah
[19:27:44] <Wazwazwaz> back
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[19:34:56] <MaxRoss> CreativeAspiration: We should combine the blank template into the first journal, the one we currently call OC Creation Guide.
[19:43:16] <Nabuak> M<abbr title=" "></abbr>axRoss is away: Life, like a Siren she calls
[19:56:15] <lycansei> hii
[20:03:21] <The-Red-Right-Hand> righty guys, got to grab a sleep
[20:03:23] <The-Red-Right-Hand> later ym dudes
[20:03:25] <The-Red-Right-Hand> eyy lycansei
[20:04:43] <CreativeAspiration> <abbr title="the-red-right-hand">TheRedRightFace</abbr>: Un moment dood
[20:04:48] <The-Red-Right-Hand> oo?
[20:05:28] <CreativeAspiration> <abbr title="the-red-right-hand">TheRedRightFace</abbr>: http://sta.sh/0cbtsmpz72o that's where my mind went
[20:06:10] <The-Red-Right-Hand> yeah that looks good, whats the orange forr??
[20:06:40] <CreativeAspiration> Crime sect.
[20:07:18] <CreativeAspiration> Purple is the independent systems, they aren't as lawless as the Crime sect if that makes sense. We can talk about that later though.
[20:07:28] <The-Red-Right-Hand> hmmm can't crime sec just sort of blurr in with natural area? or at least areas where we'll have the 'middle group'. Just because not sure why crimes getting its own faction like territory
[20:08:44] <The-Red-Right-Hand> Just because as a faction its really hard to get 'criminal/misc' groups involved, trust me I've tried in past events with the Hydian pirates :U better to just have that as nutural group, equal standing on the map and in the grand order of things like the mandos
[20:08:55] <The-Red-Right-Hand> and what ever other people we want to throw in the mix of 'the middle group'
[20:09:07] <CreativeAspiration> I'll write up some sort of explanation of what I'm thinking about for you to read in the morn and we can go from there, I'm down for comromise but i had a cool idea about that area.
[20:09:17] <CreativeAspiration> compromise **
[20:10:19] <The-Red-Right-Hand> that souns good, I'll try and get hte same too see if we're on the same page, like wise if anyone else has any ideas or suggestions write it down and we see what ideas we can bounce around
[20:10:20] <The-Red-Right-Hand> rightyy
[20:10:23] <The-Red-Right-Hand> later peeps!
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[21:24:04] <Epic64> Hey what's Nabuak's commands again? tryna see my notes
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[21:50:02] <MaxRoss> Epic64:
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[21:50:22] <MaxRoss> Epic64: ~~note list :p
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[21:56:18] <MaxRoss> Nabu has some kinks, he's different then J4 :paranoid: And unfortunately for me Botdom is a dead chat, so I have little help in the bot department.
[22:00:00] <lycansei> sorry
[22:00:04] <lycansei> I frog J4
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[22:01:29] <MaxRoss> Nothing to be sorry about :p
[22:01:55] <MaxRoss> I'm still learning how to do things with Nabu :confused: I still need to make it so everyone can access his away command
[22:03:17] <lycansei> I didnt set up J4....&gt;&gt; fuzzy did
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[22:05:15] <MaxRoss> :shrug:
[22:34:51] ** CreativeAspiration has joined
[22:47:24] <MaxRoss> Wazwazwaz: Perhaps Brysten could give Ty's Ibram a 'lovely' talk? :eyes:
[23:19:26] <Wazwazwaz> ....
[23:19:33] <Wazwazwaz> *squints*
[23:36:19] <CreativeAspiration> *stabs*
[23:37:50] * MaxRoss Throws a blanket