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  1. (The poll was ended by HeaLnDeaL.)
  2. Poll ended make a flash cap now?
  3. 1. yes (8 votes)
  4. 80%
  5. 2. no (2 votes)
  6. 20%
  7. [13:42] Hype-Emerald: What megas are?
  8. [13:43] Done With MONOTYPE: lol arthur, don't laugh but I still watch that show
  9. [13:43] #HeaLnDeaL: k, we're making a flash CAP :3
  10. [13:43] Done With MONOTYPE: :'c
  11. [13:43] Animaignis: Ubers are banned. All else in OU allowed
  12. [13:43] %KhosroTheGreat: Hype-Emerald, CAP follows the same rulebook as OU except that necturna is only allowed 1 sketch move
  13. [13:43] Airwind: what are pokemon banned in cap¡
  14. [13:43] Airwind: ?
  15. [13:43] Animaignis: the Uber pokemon
  16. [13:43] Done With MONOTYPE: ubers
  17. [13:43] Airwind: only ubers?
  18. [13:43] +Da Pizza Man: how are we starting
  19. [13:43] Done With MONOTYPE: it's the same OU banlist with CAPs added
  20. [13:43] %KhosroTheGreat: [18:43:06] %KhosroTheGreat: CAP follows the same rulebook as OU except that necturna is only allowed 1 sketch move
  21. [13:43] Hype-Emerald: sorry khosro, I'm not familiar with the rules of game types
  22. [13:43] +Da Pizza Man: heal how are we doing this
  23. if you want to apply for FlashCAP TL, say "in" and maybe give a few lines on how you're qualified
  24. [13:43] Hype-Emerald: im new to competitive
  25. [13:43] +Da Pizza Man: in
  26. [13:44] +Da Pizza Man: out
  27. Angoswag joined
  28. [13:44] %KhosroTheGreat: rip
  29. [13:44] +Sunfished: in, I draw circles with faces
  30. [13:44] #HeaLnDeaL: there won't be TLT, just easier with TL
  31. [13:44] +Da Pizza Man: in, i want to be like bugmaniacbob
  32. [13:44] Airwind: my draw are shit :c
  33. [13:44] %KhosroTheGreat: in but I'm not sure when I need to leave
  34. [13:44] Hype-Emerald: In, I draw faces on circles
  35. [13:44] Hype-Emerald: i seconds airwind
  36. [13:44] Hype-Emerald: *second
  37. [13:45] Animaignis: in cause im decent with statish stuff
  38. [13:45] #HeaLnDeaL: TL = topic leader, which is charge of the competitive stuff
  39. [13:45] %KhosroTheGreat: heal for tl obvs
  40. [13:45] Done With MONOTYPE: are we doing flaschcap here?
  41. [13:45] #HeaLnDeaL: so art stuff won't help you be a TL
  42. [13:45] #HeaLnDeaL: ye
  43. Orgn joined
  44. [13:45] Animaignis: we now need a poll for TL :P
  45. [13:45] Hype-Emerald: Out, I suck at drawing
  46. [13:45] Done With MONOTYPE: aww we have to type stuff
  47. [13:45] Animaignis: HeaL or Jas rofl
  48. [13:45] Done With MONOTYPE: darn
  49. [13:45] #HeaLnDeaL: jas61292, you wanna run for TL?
  50. [13:46] • Animaignis for TL \o/ jk i suck at that kind of stuff right now :P
  51. [13:46] #HeaLnDeaL: so far only KhosroTheGreat and Da Pizza Man are running... I think
  52. [13:46] #jas61292: Uh.... no. I've had enough being TL for one lifetime.
  53. Candle Jerk joined
  54. [13:46] +Da Pizza Man: i wasn't running it was a joke
  55. [13:47] +Da Pizza Man: so only khosro is running
  56. [13:47] #HeaLnDeaL: oh rip
  57. [13:47] %KhosroTheGreat: wait why isn't heal running?
  58. [13:47] #HeaLnDeaL: Coconut, you wanna run?
  59. [13:47] Ria: What does being a TL involve?
  60. [13:47] Animaignis: being awesome
  61. [13:47] Animaignis: and leading the discussion
  62. [13:48] #HeaLnDeaL: you lead the competitive discussion (concepts, typing, abilities, stats, moves)
  63. Angoswag left
  64. [13:48] Reapehify: Essentially, being heavily involved in pokemon (and OU).
  65. [13:48] #HeaLnDeaL: TL will also, this time, decide what meta(s) we're building for, if any at all
  66. [13:49] +Da Pizza Man: is khosro going to win by default?
  67. [13:49] +Da Pizza Man: lol
  68. [13:49] Ria: I see
  69. [13:49] %KhosroTheGreat: I really don't want to -.-
  70. [13:49] #HeaLnDeaL: he will if no one else applies
  71. Salamencetopius left
  72. [13:49] Ria: that is so not my thing
  73. [13:49] Ria: lol
  74. [13:49] %KhosroTheGreat: I thought heal was tl and the in was just for being involved for the flash cap
  75. [13:49] Reapehify: I don't personally think I have the attributes to lead so I wouldn't bother with it.
  76. [13:49] %KhosroTheGreat: didn't even know it was about tl
  77. [13:49] Animaignis: i will run so khosro doesnt have to run alone :P no one vote for me
  78. [13:50] %KhosroTheGreat: legitimately why isn't heal tl?
  79. [13:50] +Da Pizza Man: i guess i will run
  80. [13:50] %KhosroTheGreat: I don't understand
  81. [13:50] Animaignis: idk
  82. [13:50] Animaignis: yes DPM join party
  83. [13:50] +Da Pizza Man: so we got 3 canidates
  84. [13:50] #HeaLnDeaL: I mean I could try but I'd prolly be bad. and I'd like to give you kids a chance
  85. [13:50] Animaignis: *2 real canidates*
  86. [13:50] Animaignis: rofl
  87. hilling and Xyariax joined; hilling left
  88. [13:51] Done With MONOTYPE: o3o
  89. [13:51] Reapehify: What is Flashcap?
  90. [13:51] #HeaLnDeaL: KhosroTheGreat, did you still want to run?
  91. [13:51] %KhosroTheGreat: I guess...
  92. [13:51] Animaignis: u have to Khosro
  93. [13:51] +Da Pizza Man: reaphify a cap we do just for fun in a chat like this
  94. [13:52] Reapehify: Oh.
  95. [13:52] %KhosroTheGreat: since there is so few other people, I'll do it
  96. [13:52] Animaignis: like a flash flood, but for CAP :P
  97. [13:52] Reapehify: Okay. That's cool.
  98. [13:52] Reapehify: I vote for Khosro. :^)
  99. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  100. (A poll was started by HeaLnDeaL.)
  101. [13:53] Reapehify: And we have a winner! :^)
  102. [13:53] Animaignis: rofl
  103. [13:53] #HeaLnDeaL: I'll leave the poll up for a few minutes
  104. [13:53] %KhosroTheGreat: I'm so proud of myself for not voting for myself :^)
  105. [13:53] Done With MONOTYPE: o3o
  106. [13:53] Done With MONOTYPE: a tie e.e
  107. [13:53] +Da Pizza Man: i don't think any of us voted for ourselves
  108. [13:54] +Da Pizza Man: i voted for ani
  109. [13:54] Ria: I voted for myself
  110. [13:54] Done With MONOTYPE: same
  111. [13:54] Animaignis: i voted for DPM :P
  112. [13:54] #HeaLnDeaL: brb
  113. [13:54] Animaignis: RIP HeaL
  114. Obvious Pooter joined; +Deck Knight and Hype-Emerald left
  115. [13:56] #HeaLnDeaL: back...
  116. [13:56] #HeaLnDeaL: still a tie :s
  117. [13:56] %KhosroTheGreat: oh noice
  118. [13:57] #HeaLnDeaL: Obvious Pooter, you wanna run too, rof
  119. [13:57] +Da Pizza Man: if it ends a tie justt redo the poll but remove me from it
  120. [13:57] Obvious Pooter: nop
  121. [13:57] %KhosroTheGreat: I have little idea how to be a TL
  122. [13:57] %KhosroTheGreat: sparky
  123. [13:58] %KhosroTheGreat: why you no TL?
  124. (The poll was ended by HeaLnDeaL.)
  125. Poll ended vote for the flash cap TL!
  126. 1. KhosroTheGreat (4 votes)
  127. 44%
  128. 2. Da Pizza Man (1 vote)
  129. 11%
  130. 3. Animaignis (4 votes)
  131. 44%
  132. [13:58] Animaignis: have SparkboTTT as TL
  133. [13:58] +Da Pizza Man: okay
  134. [13:58] +Da Pizza Man: who voted for me
  135. [13:58] Animaignis: me \o/
  136. jlygy tfd ytv joined
  137. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  138. (A poll was started by HeaLnDeaL.)
  139. [13:58] Done With MONOTYPE: rip khosro
  140. [13:59] +Da Pizza Man: great another tie
  141. [13:59] +Da Pizza Man: nvm
  142. [13:59] %KhosroTheGreat: ay
  143. TheMysterious-Mr.T joined
  144. [14:00] #HeaLnDeaL: rof
  145. [14:00] Ria: lol
  146. [14:00] %KhosroTheGreat: wow this is clutch
  147. [14:00] Ria: In the end, ima get FE: Fates
  148. [14:00] Animaignis: My tie is with Gyaradoses on them :P
  149. [14:00] Animaignis: Khosro what ur tie look like?
  150. [14:00] Reapehify: I almost didn't vote. :^)
  151. [14:00] Animaignis: Is it a bow tie?
  152. [14:00] +Da Pizza Man: if it ends in another tie i say we flip a coin
  153. JDragon6299 left
  154. [14:00] Animaignis: r we doing TLT too?
  155. [14:00] +Da Pizza Man: no ani
  156. [14:00] %KhosroTheGreat: no
  157. [14:00] #HeaLnDeaL: no TLT
  158. [14:01] %KhosroTheGreat: just TL
  159. [14:01] Animaignis: interesting
  160. [14:01] %KhosroTheGreat: what we should do
  161. [14:01] %KhosroTheGreat: is have another poll but force heal to be in it
  162. [14:01] +Da Pizza Man: khosro i said we should flip a coin
  163. [14:01] Xyariax: i have a D20 sitting right next to me :P
  164. [14:01] Animaignis: /choose Khosro, Animaignis :P
  165. [14:01] +Da Pizza Man: pretty much
  166. [14:01] Animaignis: yup
  167. lightninging2 and hilling joined
  168. [14:01] %KhosroTheGreat: nein, force heal to be in poll
  169. [14:01] #HeaLnDeaL: I'm scurred
  170. [14:01] %KhosroTheGreat: take him by the lapels
  171. [14:01] lightninging2: flash cap anybody
  172. [14:01] #HeaLnDeaL: force Obvious Pooter to be in the poll imo
  173. [14:02] Animaignis: vote u scrub vote for khosro :P
  174. [14:02] Obvious Pooter: i did vote
  175. [14:02] Done With MONOTYPE: .o.
  176. (The poll was ended by HeaLnDeaL.)
  177. Poll ended vote for the flash cap TL!
  178. 1. KhosroTheGreat (6 votes)
  179. 55%
  180. 2. Animaignis (5 votes)
  181. 45%
  182. [14:02] Ria: We'll be gentle, no worries
  183. [14:02] Animaignis: there we go
  184. [14:02] #HeaLnDeaL: k, KhosroTheGreat is TL
  185. [14:02] +Da Pizza Man: khosro wins
  186. [14:02] Animaignis: grats khosro :P
  187. [14:02] %KhosroTheGreat: lol thanks guys
  188. [14:02] +Da Pizza Man: concept now i guess
  189. [14:02] • %KhosroTheGreat is nervous
  190. [14:02] Animaignis: Now u gotta lead discussion in an awesome manner o3o
  191. [14:03] #HeaLnDeaL: first order of TL business is to decide the meta(s) we're building for and to decide how concepts will work (gen4 concepts vs gen5/6 concepts)
  192. [14:03] %KhosroTheGreat: o.o
  193. [14:03] +Da Pizza Man: khosro what meta
  194. [14:03] %KhosroTheGreat: what were gen 4 concepts like?
  195. [14:03] +Da Pizza Man: khosro simple sentences
  196. [14:03] +Da Pizza Man: just describing what to do
  197. [14:03] #HeaLnDeaL: they were more role-based
  198. [14:03] Animaignis: Can i make a motion to build for the CAP meta? :P
  199. [14:03] #HeaLnDeaL: like sub-seeder
  200. [14:03] Animaignis: Pyroak
  201. [14:04] %KhosroTheGreat: am I allowed to build for CAP?
  202. [14:04] #HeaLnDeaL: yes
  203. [14:04] +Da Pizza Man: yes
  204. [14:04] Animaignis: yaas
  205. [14:04] %KhosroTheGreat: noice build for CAP using gen 4 concepts
  206. [14:04] #HeaLnDeaL: aight cool
  207. megaivox joined
  208. [14:04] +Da Pizza Man: which meta
  209. [14:04] #HeaLnDeaL: one sec lemme pull up a helpful post for concept stuff
  210. [14:05] Animaignis: didnt the concept stuff get said as sucky?
  211. ‽Nigel Kamran joined; Wenderz left
  212. [14:05] %KhosroTheGreat: Given that it doesn't look like PRC will build for CAP, I couldn't not build for it
  213. [14:05] Animaignis: lol
  214. ‽Nigel Kamran left
  215. [14:06] Animaignis: <peer pressure>
  216. [14:06] Animaignis: khosro u didnt answer what does ur tie look like?
  217. [14:06] #HeaLnDeaL: we don't have to go with these terms, but these can be helpful for concept submissions: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/an-adjustment-in-direction.3544802/page-2#post-6655163
  218. [14:06] %KhosroTheGreat: gen 4 concepts sound a little more simple to understand
  219. [14:06] Animaignis: true.
  220. [14:06] #HeaLnDeaL: also, we need someone to periodically log this chat
  221. [14:06] +Da Pizza Man: i will do it
  222. [14:07] %KhosroTheGreat: thank you dpm
  223. [14:07] %KhosroTheGreat: How is this going to work? Do I pick concept or do I choose from submitted concepts?
  224. [14:07] %KhosroTheGreat: or I pick slate
  225. [14:07] #HeaLnDeaL: people submit concepts, you pick X amount to go to the poll
  226. [14:07] %KhosroTheGreat: pick slate k
  227. [14:07] #HeaLnDeaL: you are allowed to submit one if you want to as well
  228. [14:07] %KhosroTheGreat: oh nice
  229. +Deck Knight joined
  230. [14:08] #HeaLnDeaL: k, so we're building for CAP, using old-style concepts
  231. [14:08] • Animaignis submits concept of utilizing a traditionally bad ablity (that is still possible to use competativly, obsz) while having boundaries of flavour (No Wood Hammer cruci, plz) :P
  232. [14:09] Animaignis: \o/
  233. [14:09] %KhosroTheGreat: Isn't that a gen 5/6 concept?
  234. JSFinny joined
  235. [14:09] Animaignis: still concept based, isnt it?
  236. [14:09] %KhosroTheGreat: sounds fun tho
  237. [14:09] • #HeaLnDeaL submits Power Cleric. Mon with cleric-related supporting roles that still has offensive presence.
  238. jlygy tfd ytv left
  239. [14:10] Animaignis: -Mega Altaria- :P still cool
  240. [14:10] Animaignis: can we make multiple submissions
  241. [14:10] #HeaLnDeaL: yeah
  242. [14:10] #HeaLnDeaL: you can make up to three subs
  243. [14:10] #HeaLnDeaL: (just makes up rules as he goes along)
  244. [14:10] Animaignis: rofl
  245. [14:10] • +Deck Knight submits Ultimate Calm Mind. Pokemon capable of utilizing Calm Mind's strong points to their maximum ability.
  246. [14:11] lightninging2: has CAP made a stallish mon yet?
  247. [14:11] %KhosroTheGreat: love it
  248. [14:11] +Da Pizza Man: I set up a pirate pad for the lot
  249. [14:11] • Animaignis also submits Mold Breaker: Breaking the tradition of roles traditionally played by a typing (similar to stratagem concept)
  250. [14:11] Animaignis: revenaankh is a bit stallish
  251. [14:11] #HeaLnDeaL: pyroak too
  252. Flare the Kid joined
  253. [14:11] +Deck Knight: Tomohawk can stall also
  254. [14:11] Animaignis: and sometimes malaconda
  255. Obvious Pooter left
  256. [14:12] • #HeaLnDeaL submits I eat Tomohawk for Breakfast. something designed to drastically impact tomohawk usage.
  257. [14:12] Animaignis: yaaaas
  258. [14:12] • +Da Pizza Man submits Jihadist, A mon who is used to explore the role of suicide leads better
  259. [14:12] • Ria submits Status Expert. A mon that can uses status effects positively for itself or negatively to it's enemies but not amazing if at the same time
  260. JDragon6299 joined
  261. [14:13] +Da Pizza Man: should i change the name of that concept?
  262. [14:13] %KhosroTheGreat: these are some really nice submissions
  263. [14:13] Animaignis: probs fine
  264. [14:13] Animaignis: maybe not suicide leads, but just self-destruction
  265. [14:13] +Da Pizza Man: Yeah true
  266. [14:13] Animaignis: more broad
  267. [14:13] +Deck Knight: Change it to Workplace Violence, Da Pizza Man
  268. Makarce joined
  269. The command '/submits' was unrecognized. To send a message starting with '/submits', type '//submits'.
  270. [14:14] • #HeaLnDeaL submits ultimate hazard control. self explanatory.
  271. [14:14] • +Da Pizza Man resubmits Workplace Violence, a mon who is used to explore the concept of sele destruction better
  272. [14:14] +Da Pizza Man: self
  273. [14:14] • Reapehify submits concept gen 4 Skarm/Bliss. A concept to create a physical wall better able to deal with physical/special split created by gen 4.
  274. [14:14] • Animaignis submits Entourage: A mon that cooperates with its teammates to a large degree in order to work extremely well. Not useful when alone. (final sub)
  275. [14:14] Animaignis: or less useful
  276. [14:14] #HeaLnDeaL: k I've had my 3 subs, can't make any more :3
  277. [14:14] Done With MONOTYPE: .o.
  278. [14:15] Animaignis: same bruh
  279. [14:15] Animaignis: i like submitting this too much :P
  280. TheHungrySnorlax joined
  281. [14:15] • Animaignis used Substitute (instead of submit)
  282. [14:15] #HeaLnDeaL: whenever KhosroTheGreat wants to, he can pick 5-8 mconcepts to slate
  283. [14:15] #HeaLnDeaL: *concepts
  284. [14:15] %KhosroTheGreat: k I'll wait for a few more
  285. [14:15] Animaignis: can't only 7 fit in a poll?
  286. [14:15] #HeaLnDeaL: oh true
  287. [14:15] %KhosroTheGreat: 9 iirc
  288. [14:16] %KhosroTheGreat: or not
  289. [14:16] Makarce: Hello
  290. [14:16] #HeaLnDeaL: ah
  291. [14:16] Animaignis: hi
  292. [14:16] Animaignis: so like, 5-7?
  293. [14:16] #HeaLnDeaL: let me test
  294. hilling left
  295. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  296. (A poll was started by HeaLnDeaL.)
  297. [14:16] Animaignis: yayy
  298. [14:16] #HeaLnDeaL: we can have 8
  299. [14:16] #HeaLnDeaL: so 5-8
  300. (The poll was ended by HeaLnDeaL.)
  301. Poll ended test
  302. 1. 1 (0 votes)
  303. 0%
  304. 2. 2 (1 vote)
  305. 20%
  306. 3. 3 (0 votes)
  307. 0%
  308. 4. 4 (1 vote)
  309. 20%
  310. 5. 5 (1 vote)
  311. 20%
  312. 6. 6 (0 votes)
  313. 0%
  314. 7. 7 (0 votes)
  315. 0%
  316. 8. 8 (2 votes)
  317. 40%
  318. [14:17] Makarce: Poison pokemon with levitate and all phsically defensive with a high HP but a very poor attack and very very poor Spde
  319. [14:17] • Animaignis probably shouldnt be eating so many cheez-its >.>
  320. [14:17] Makarce: ?
  321. [14:17] JDragon6299: cheez-its???
  322. [14:17] Done With MONOTYPE: eww e.e
  323. [14:17] • +Da Pizza Man submits One Trick Pony, a mon who can preform a variety of different roles, but only one at a time
  324. [14:17] • %KhosroTheGreat submits I <3 SR, a Pokemon which can use Stealth Rock being on its own side to its advantage
  325. [14:17] • Makarce FUCK OFF
  326. [14:17] Done With MONOTYPE: they're like square cheese crackers JDragon
  327. [14:17] Animaignis: dang Khosro got a legit sub tho
  328. [14:17] Animaignis: legit af
  329. [14:17] JDragon6299: aaaaaah. I feel this is probs an american thing
  330. [14:17] #HeaLnDeaL: let's be nice kids
  331. [14:18] Animaignis: yes it very america
  332. [14:18] %KhosroTheGreat: ye I have no idea how we're going to achieve that
  333. [14:18] Flare the Kid: 'MERICA
  334. [14:18] Flare the Kid: YEAH
  335. [14:18] Done With MONOTYPE: attack boost +6 when rocks are up :]
  336. [14:18] Animaignis: :O
  337. hilling joined
  338. [14:18] +Deck Knight: Reversal, Khosro
  339. [14:18] #HeaLnDeaL: yeah tbh I don't know how either, koso.
  340. [14:18] #HeaLnDeaL: I mean... blah
  341. [14:18] %KhosroTheGreat: I'mma making the slate
  342. [14:18] #HeaLnDeaL: maybe like sitrus berry unburden or something
  343. [14:18] +Deck Knight: Too bad Sub+Reversal is useless with all the priority around.
  344. lightninging2 left
  345. [14:19] +Deck Knight: You could also do Aerilate/Pixilate/Redrigerate Flail
  346. [14:19] Animaignis: lol
  347. [14:19] Animaignis: *Return*
  348. [14:19] %KhosroTheGreat: oh wait do we have custom abilities/moves?
  349. [14:19] #HeaLnDeaL: no
  350. [14:19] • Ria submits Underdistributed Move Champion. A Pokemon that can make good use of moves that aren't distributed to many Pokemon, but can be good moves
  351. [14:19] Animaignis: poll plz ;-;
  352. [14:19] #HeaLnDeaL: custom things banned
  353. [14:19] Animaignis: finnnne
  354. [14:19] Animaignis: ;-;
  355. [14:19] Ria: and I can't think of anything else lol
  356. [14:19] %KhosroTheGreat: k that's simpler
  357. [14:19] +Deck Knight: No Mountaineer or ShadowStrike or PaleoWave guys
  358. [14:20] Animaignis: Custom abilities r nice is all as long as that isnt only thing being discussed
  359. [14:20] Ria: or Rebound
  360. [14:20] +Deck Knight: Indeed
  361. [14:20] Animaignis: :I
  362. Poster Boy left
  363. [14:20] Done With MONOTYPE: some guy asking for alts smh
  364. [14:20] • +Da Pizza Man submits Deck Knight, a master at manipulating cap concepts (This one is a joke don't add it)
  365. [14:20] Animaignis: yup
  366. [14:20] Animaignis: rofl DPM
  367. ViceBEGA joined
  368. [14:20] Animaignis: i git dat reference
  369. kooleee left
  370. [14:21] +Deck Knight: FlashCAP has been hijacked by Deck Knight.
  371. [14:21] +Deck Knight: Do not be alarmed.
  372. [14:21] Animaignis: :P
  373. [14:21] • Reapehify submits Deck Knight, a master at manipulating cap concepts (not a joke; please add it)
  374. [14:21] +Deck Knight: I made Cyclohm, so this will all work out.
  375. [14:21] Animaignis: yus
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  377. [14:21] #HeaLnDeaL: k, concept subs closed
  378. [14:21] Animaignis: and cyclohm turned out pretty good in long run :P
  379. [14:21] #HeaLnDeaL: awaiting koso's slate
  380. [14:21] %KhosroTheGreat: I think I have my slate
  381. [14:22] %KhosroTheGreat: just gonna have another look through to check
  382. [14:22] +Deck Knight: Hasn't even gotten Electroweb or Volt Switch yet.
  383. [14:22] Animaignis: yy
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  385. [14:22] Animaignis: Krillo and plasmanta need Volt Switch imo
  386. [14:22] +Deck Knight: Krilo needs Scald
  387. [14:22] Animaignis: at least Plasmanta imo
  388. [14:22] Animaignis: yea that too
  389. [14:22] Reapehify: Which is why we're doing a movepool study!
  390. [14:22] Animaignis: yup
  391. [14:22] Reapehify: http://docdro.id/bMBnmQA
  392. [14:22] Reapehify: You can check out egg data completed here.
  393. [14:22] %KhosroTheGreat: do I just make a poll now?
  394. [14:23] +Da Pizza Man: yes
  395. [14:23] %KhosroTheGreat: great
  396. [14:23] Animaignis: mitre fancy stuff u got there Reaper :P
  397. [14:23] Reapehify: Why thank you.
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  399. [14:24] Reapehify: I can't take all the praise. Deck Knight did some work and we QC'd each other.
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  401. Poll Our FlashCAP concept!
  402. 1. Ani's Using a traditionally bad ability (4 votes)
  403. 36%
  404. 2. Heal's I eat Tomo for breakfast (3 votes)
  405. 27%
  406. 3. DPM's workplace violence (1 vote)
  407. 9%
  408. 4. Ria's undistributed move champion (2 votes)
  409. 18%
  410. 5. reaper's gen 4 skarm/bliss (1 vote)
  411. 9%
  412. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  413. [14:24] +Deck Knight: I am Excel Wizard. None Shall Pass!
  414. [14:24] Reapehify: ^
  415. [14:24] Animaignis: :P
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  417. [14:24] Animaignis: dangt i wish i could vote for 2 of them ;-;
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  419. [14:25] hilling: rfgt
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  421. [14:25] • Reapehify is the only one to vote for reaper's gen 4 skarm/bliss. :^)
  422. [14:25] Animaignis: lol
  423. [14:25] %KhosroTheGreat: lol
  424. [14:25] #HeaLnDeaL: Animaignis, wut was your ful concept again
  425. [14:25] • Reapehify is feeling selfish
  426. [14:25] +Deck Knight: At least he got slated.
  427. [14:25] Animaignis: [13:08] • Animaignis submits concept of utilizing a traditionally bad ablity (that is still possible to use competativly, obsz) while having boundaries of flavour (No Wood Hammer cruci, plz) :P
  428. [14:25] %KhosroTheGreat: Sorry everyone who I didn't slate
  429. [14:26] +Da Pizza Man: oh
  430. [14:26] +Deck Knight: Sounds like Shield Dust/Static Cyclohm.
  431. [14:26] +Da Pizza Man: I can't change my vote dammit
  432. [14:26] Animaignis: lol
  433. [14:26] #HeaLnDeaL: just say you +1 / -1 pizza
  434. [14:26] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  435. [14:26] +Da Pizza Man: okay
  436. [14:26] #HeaLnDeaL: *your
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  438. [14:27] Animaignis: i find a lot of abilities are just put on Pokemon with stats that dont work, not actually bad abilities
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  440. [14:27] Animaignis: Like Static and Shield Dust are not inherintly bad, to a degree
  441. [14:27] +Da Pizza Man: +1 Heal -1 Ani
  442. [14:27] Reapehify: / pizza man -1 reaper's +1 animaignis' even though he didn't vote reaper.
  443. [14:27] Reapehify: Lol.
  444. [14:27] Animaignis: rofl
  445. [14:27] Reapehify: Apparently he doesn't like you after all.
  446. [14:27] %KhosroTheGreat: that's clutch dpm
  447. [14:27] %KhosroTheGreat: that puts heal into the lead
  448. [14:27] +Da Pizza Man: khosro didn't see the vote change
  449. [14:28] Reapehify: - reaper + ani
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  451. [14:28] %KhosroTheGreat: reaper is that a genuine change?
  452. [14:28] #HeaLnDeaL: we can revote on the top 2 I guess
  453. [14:28] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  454. [14:28] Reapehify: Yes.
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  456. [14:28] Animaignis: sure
  457. [14:28] Done With MONOTYPE: kill the tomos >:c
  458. [14:28] Reapehify: So now you have to choose between the two.
  459. [14:28] Reapehify: They're tied, let's revote.
  460. [14:28] +Da Pizza Man: heal your in the lead now actually
  461. [14:29] +Da Pizza Man: i -1 ani and +1 heal
  462. [14:29] Animaignis: lol
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  464. [14:29] +Da Pizza Man: well i did in the past
  465. [14:29] Animaignis: clutch tie
  466. [14:29] Reapehify: And I -1 reaper and +1 ani.
  467. [14:29] %KhosroTheGreat: Will we get any more votes?
  468. [14:29] #HeaLnDeaL: it's fine, revoting on top 2 makes sure all voters have their final voice heard
  469. [14:29] Animaignis: HeaL what color is ur tie?
  470. [14:29] Animaignis: mine is blue
  471. [14:29] Reapehify: Sad.
  472. [14:29] Done With MONOTYPE: o.o
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  474. [14:29] #HeaLnDeaL: umm my favorite tie is just plain silver
  475. [14:29] Animaignis: noice
  476. [14:29] %KhosroTheGreat: I'mma start revote now
  477. [14:29] Reapehify: The tomo idea is inflated.
  478. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  479. Poll ended Our FlashCAP concept!
  480. 1. Ani's Using a traditionally bad ability (4 votes)
  481. 33%
  482. 2. Heal's I eat Tomo for breakfast (4 votes)
  483. 33%
  484. 3. DPM's workplace violence (1 vote)
  485. 8%
  486. 4. Ria's undistributed move champion (2 votes)
  487. 17%
  488. 5. reaper's gen 4 skarm/bliss (1 vote)
  489. 8%
  490. [14:30] Done With MONOTYPE: lol free wins
  491. [14:30] Done With MONOTYPE: are great :'3
  492. [14:30] Animaignis: lol
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  494. [14:30] Done With MONOTYPE: idk if I should mess with this 1621 elo
  495. [14:30] Animaignis: naw naw
  496. [14:30] Reapehify: Wait.
  497. [14:30] Done With MONOTYPE: I either get to like top 10s maybe or tilt
  498. [14:31] %KhosroTheGreat: Can we have the 2 concepts pasted so ppl can see before they vote?
  499. [14:31] Reapehify: Doesn't Animaignis win?
  500. [14:31] #HeaLnDeaL: sure
  501. [14:31] Animaignis: its 4-4 rite now
  502. [14:31] +Da Pizza Man: 4-4
  503. [14:31] Reapehify: Yes, but I voted for you.
  504. [14:31] Animaignis: not democratic anyways since other votes could be revised
  505. [14:31] +Da Pizza Man: not counting revotes
  506. [14:31] #HeaLnDeaL: I eat Tomohawk for Breakfast. something designed to drastically impact tomohawk usage.
  507. [14:31] +Da Pizza Man: no more revotes
  508. [14:31] Animaignis: we should probably do another poll
  509. [14:31] +Sunfished: back
  510. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  511. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  512. [14:31] • Animaignis votes for self for once, feels slightly guilty 9_9 :P
  513. [14:31] %KhosroTheGreat: I eat Tomohawk for Breakfast. something designed to drastically impact tomohawk usage.
  514. [14:31] • Animaignis feels very guilty
  515. [14:32] Animaignis: makes tomo more common rofl
  516. [14:32] %KhosroTheGreat: someone bring ani's concept down
  517. [14:32] +Deck Knight: OmNomNom
  518. [14:32] Reapehify: Or boost it up.
  519. [14:32] +Da Pizza Man: fix the poll
  520. [14:32] %KhosroTheGreat: utilizing a traditionally bad ablity (that is still possible to use competativly, obsz) while having boundaries of flavour (No Wood Hammer cruci, plz) :P
  521. [14:32] #HeaLnDeaL: kinda hard to make tomo more common tho
  522. [14:32] Animaignis: add another Colo :P
  523. [14:32] Animaignis: except make the colo more OP
  524. [14:32] %KhosroTheGreat: heal really taking the lead
  525. [14:32] Animaignis: and then tomo will be on EVERY team \o/
  526. [14:33] #HeaLnDeaL: if we make it a fairy it can beat up tomo and clohm
  527. [14:33] Animaignis: yaas
  528. [14:33] #HeaLnDeaL: and colo
  529. [14:33] Done With MONOTYPE: kentucky fried tomo
  530. [14:33] Done With MONOTYPE: o3o
  531. [14:33] +Da Pizza Man: fix the poll, it says bad concept
  532. [14:33] Reapehify: Another fairy type does nothing.
  533. [14:33] Animaignis: i wud eat Kentucky fried tomo
  534. [14:33] Done With MONOTYPE: same
  535. [14:33] %KhosroTheGreat: oh oops
  536. [14:33] Animaignis: and Tom-Os
  537. [14:33] %KhosroTheGreat: that's a big flaw
  538. [14:33] #HeaLnDeaL: ye
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  540. [14:33] Animaignis: XD
  541. [14:33] +Da Pizza Man: thats probably why heal had such a lead
  542. [14:33] #HeaLnDeaL: ye
  543. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  544. Poll ended FlashCAP concept vote 2!
  545. 1. Ani's using a traditionally bad concept (4 votes)
  546. 33%
  547. 2. Heal's I eat Tomo for breakfast (8 votes)
  548. 67%
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  550. [14:33] %KhosroTheGreat: sorry guys :c
  551. [14:33] #HeaLnDeaL: revote
  552. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  553. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  554. [14:33] Animaignis: lol
  555. [14:33] Animaignis: that was pretty funny tho :P
  556. [14:34] %KhosroTheGreat: there we are
  557. [14:34] Ria: lol
  558. [14:34] %KhosroTheGreat: much better
  559. [14:34] %KhosroTheGreat: so much more even
  560. [14:34] Animaignis: seems much more accurate
  561. [14:34] JDragon6299: what is this FlashCAP thing???
  562. [14:34] Animaignis: a quick cap made here
  563. [14:34] #HeaLnDeaL: a fake CAP made in a few hours
  564. [14:34] Animaignis: not officially added
  565. [14:34] Animaignis: a fakefakemon :P
  566. [14:35] JDragon6299: I see.
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  568. [14:35] lightninging2: vote 4 ani
  569. [14:35] Done With MONOTYPE: aight imma go play soccer or something byee e.e
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  571. [14:35] JDragon6299: peace
  572. [14:35] • %KhosroTheGreat hopes his slate was good
  573. [14:35] #HeaLnDeaL: rip vulpix
  574. [14:35] %KhosroTheGreat: see you vulp
  575. [14:36] Animaignis: byee
  576. [14:36] #HeaLnDeaL: and thus the votes slow to a crawl
  577. [14:36] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  578. [14:36] Animaignis: lol
  579. [14:36] %KhosroTheGreat: I'mma give a minute and a half and then end it
  580. [14:36] Animaignis: i think we can safely say HeaL wins this poll :P
  581. [14:37] Ria: I will be back in a few moments, gonna get FE: Fates
  582. [14:37] #HeaLnDeaL: 1.5 min sounds good
  583. [14:37] Animaignis: unless i try to vote with alts :P
  584. [14:37] Reapehify: I knew he would as soon as he proposed anti-tomohawk.
  585. [14:37] %KhosroTheGreat: there's enough time for ani to clutch it back
  586. [14:37] Animaignis: yus exactly 1.5 minutes
  587. [14:37] Reapehify: That's flat out propaganda.
  588. [14:37] Animaignis: ^
  589. [14:37] %KhosroTheGreat: ye it was obvious it was going to be a popular one
  590. [14:37] Animaignis: rofl and here is how we see we all hate Tomohawk deep inside
  591. [14:37] #HeaLnDeaL: tbh I likedf my other two concepts more but oh well
  592. [14:37] Animaignis: lol
  593. [14:38] %KhosroTheGreat: RIP my slate
  594. [14:38] %KhosroTheGreat: ending poll
  595. [14:38] Reapehify: I think Tomohawk is overrated and creating a pokemon isn't going to lessen its usage, unless that pokemon does what Tomohawk does in every way superior to it.
  596. [14:38] %KhosroTheGreat: feels a bit cruel to end it with the difference so narrow
  597. [14:38] Reapehify: In other words, it has to be a better Tomohawk. But that doesn't lessen the problem, it worsens it.
  598. [14:38] #HeaLnDeaL: idk if we have to go that far reaper
  599. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  600. Poll ended FlashCAP concept vote 2!
  601. 1. Ani's using a traditionally bad ability (6 votes)
  602. 46%
  603. 2. Heal's I eat Tomo for breakfast (7 votes)
  604. 54%
  605. [14:39] %KhosroTheGreat: gratz to heal
  606. [14:39] %KhosroTheGreat: what's next?
  607. [14:39] Animaignis: typing i think
  608. [14:39] #HeaLnDeaL: concept discussion
  609. [14:39] +Da Pizza Man: khosro we propose how we do it
  610. [14:39] %KhosroTheGreat: concept discussion ye
  611. [14:39] Animaignis: o lol
  612. [14:39] Animaignis: Ummm good typing that totally shuts it down?
  613. [14:39] Reapehify: I mean we have plenty of fairy, of ice, and of electric types that can be in the meta to counter it, but the ability for it to switch out and have something else take those hits makes the whole idea of creating an anti-tomohawk pokemon fruitless.
  614. [14:40] +Da Pizza Man: reaphify it already won
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  616. [14:40] Animaignis: lol
  617. [14:40] %KhosroTheGreat: RIP
  618. [14:40] Reapehify: Yes.
  619. [14:40] Reapehify: I know.
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  621. [14:40] Reapehify: Reapehify*
  622. [14:40] #HeaLnDeaL: I propose a two step approach. A mon that 1) can beat tomo 1 v 1 and 2) a mon that is more viable than tomo is ONE of tomo's roles
  623. [14:40] Reapehify: And I'm not debating concept discussion.
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  625. [14:40] Animaignis: So it has to check Colo as one role
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  627. [14:41] #HeaLnDeaL: *in ONE but yeah
  628. [14:41] #HeaLnDeaL: one or more I guess, just not all
  629. [14:41] +Da Pizza Man: we could do a hard counter
  630. [14:41] Animaignis: I propose a 3 step approach: 1, Give it typing Tomo can barely touch, 2 , give it the means to shut down common teammates to Tomo, and 3 do HeaL's process :P
  631. [14:41] +Da Pizza Man: but for the most part i agree with heal
  632. [14:41] %KhosroTheGreat: why would people run it over tomo for step 2 when tomo can do the same role well (albeit not as well) and others, especially with role compression and the like?
  633. [14:41] Animaignis: technically 5 steps lol
  634. [14:42] #HeaLnDeaL: well, for example, if it's a better spinner than tomo then it competes with it for the spinner team slot
  635. [14:42] lightninging2: how bout a good ole psychic type? it could be a utility taunt/encore etc user on the side, maybe as an antilead
  636. [14:43] #HeaLnDeaL: let's not talk about typing yet, that's next stage
  637. [14:43] #HeaLnDeaL: concept discussion -> typing -> ability 1 -> stats -> ability 2 -> moves
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  639. [14:43] +Da Pizza Man: if we want to check team mates
  640. [14:43] %KhosroTheGreat: I would argue that people may still run tomo because tomo can still spin and he can haze/set up rocks/baton pass etc.
  641. [14:44] Animaignis: it doesnt run Bton pass
  642. [14:44] #HeaLnDeaL: well, maybe stepping on more than one of tomo's roles would be necessary
  643. [14:44] Animaignis: It will get run anyways because it gets Prankster
  644. [14:44] #HeaLnDeaL: I just think it's unhealthy to step on them all, or almost all of them
  645. [14:44] Animaignis: ^
  646. [14:44] +Da Pizza Man: tomo's three most common teamates are mega metagross, krillowatt, and colossoil
  647. [14:45] Animaignis: I know a type that stops them all to some extent
  648. [14:45] Animaignis: But... lets not poll jump yet :P
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  650. [14:45] %KhosroTheGreat: If we're going to step on tomo's roles, then which ones are we going to step on?
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  652. [14:46] Animaignis: I vote we step on the Baton Pass role
  653. [14:46] %KhosroTheGreat: Also, we should be careful not to create a better tomo
  654. [14:46] Animaignis: or Haze
  655. [14:46] +Da Pizza Man: I'm kinda thinking rain setter role
  656. [14:46] Animaignis: well, we wont be giving it Prankster probs
  657. [14:46] Reapehify: Likely rapid spin and rock setting. That is inhibited in the same type often times, and leaves the unique role of hazing/baton pass to Tomohawk.
  658. [14:46] +Da Pizza Man: not sure
  659. [14:46] Animaignis: I like Rain Setter role focus
  660. [14:46] Animaignis: That would be neat
  661. [14:47] Animaignis: We can't really make a better Tomo tho as we aren't giving it prankster
  662. [14:47] %KhosroTheGreat: IMO one of the main reasons people like using tomo so often
  663. [14:47] #HeaLnDeaL: I think we should step on tomo's offensive role a bit too, but idk... it's hard to find a perfect combination we all agree on
  664. [14:47] lightninging2: ^^^
  665. [14:47] Animaignis: ^^^
  666. [14:47] Reapehify: Which aspect of his offensive role, HeaL?
  667. [14:47] +Da Pizza Man: ^
  668. [14:47] Animaignis: I vote Colo check :P
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  670. [14:47] #HeaLnDeaL: well, hurricane spam is tomo's most offensive aspect
  671. [14:47] %KhosroTheGreat: is because it can check so many different physical attackers well
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  673. [14:48] +Da Pizza Man: so a hurricane spammer?
  674. [14:48] Reapehify: That's true, but it has the ability to earth power and hit electric types; while alternatively it has aura sphere for ice types.
  675. [14:48] %KhosroTheGreat: tomo's coverage sets it apart
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  677. [14:48] #HeaLnDeaL: maybe just "better" coverage than tomo
  678. [14:48] Reapehify: It would be good if we could maybe we could focus on the broad things it does good and make them better.
  679. [14:49] #HeaLnDeaL: + step on one or two more roles
  680. [14:49] Reapehify: Leaving it with niche roles.
  681. [14:49] +Deck Knight: Generally the mon should be able to A: Ruin Tomo's Day B: Frustrate its attempts to grab momentum, C: otherwise have weaknesses so it isn't always prefereed.
  682. [14:49] YOGSCAST Mikey: this place has got popular
  683. [14:49] +Da Pizza Man: deck's approach is pretty good
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  685. [14:49] Animaignis: ye
  686. [14:49] #HeaLnDeaL: grabbing it's momentum seems a bit vague
  687. [14:49] #HeaLnDeaL: in what ways?
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  689. [14:50] %KhosroTheGreat: Maybe we should look at how tomo grabs momentum in the first place?
  690. [14:50] #HeaLnDeaL: I guess fast taunt could mess with tomo
  691. [14:50] Reapehify: To me that means being specially gifted and not being phased by its utility options.
  692. [14:50] %KhosroTheGreat: Outside of flat out baton pass
  693. [14:50] Animaignis: I like DPM's Rain Setter, and check certain things Tomo tries to check better
  694. [14:51] Reapehify: A rain setter would only help hurricane spam.
  695. [14:51] Animaignis: Keep in mind we cant beat it with status, as it has Taunt
  696. [14:51] #HeaLnDeaL: setting rain makes tomo's own hurricane more powerful tho
  697. [14:51] +Deck Knight: Something part Ghost blocks Spin, and is immune to Aura Sphere.
  698. [14:51] Animaignis: so? What if its now weak to hurricane?
  699. [14:51] +Da Pizza Man: heal more accurate
  700. [14:51] %KhosroTheGreat: woah OK
  701. [14:51] #HeaLnDeaL: more deadly
  702. [14:51] %KhosroTheGreat: let's keep it focused
  703. [14:52] #HeaLnDeaL: basically wut Reapehify said
  704. [14:52] lightninging2: magic bouncer could mess with tomo's prankster abuse
  705. [14:52] +Deck Knight: Yup.
  706. [14:52] #HeaLnDeaL: let's not talk about abilities or stats or moves yet
  707. [14:52] Reapehify: I was thinking that but it's not ability time.
  708. [14:52] %KhosroTheGreat: If we're going to stop tomo from grabbing momentum, what does it do currently that gains momentum and how do we stop it from doing these things?
  709. [14:52] Reapehify: Priority utility.
  710. [14:53] #HeaLnDeaL: ^
  711. [14:53] Animaignis: Prankster drypass
  712. [14:53] +Da Pizza Man: ^
  713. [14:53] +Da Pizza Man: ninja'd
  714. [14:53] Animaignis: intercept \o/
  715. [14:53] +Da Pizza Man: so this cap would need to combat against priority utility
  716. [14:53] #HeaLnDeaL: so either be immune to the utility or make it risky for it to use utility?
  717. [14:53] Reapehify: In order to stop priority utility you have two options: negate utility altogether or make it irrelevant.
  718. [14:53] Animaignis: out-prankster it :P
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  720. [14:54] Reapehify: How would you make it risky to use the utility?
  721. [14:54] +Deck Knight: MB seems like a better catch-all.
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  723. [14:54] #HeaLnDeaL: also keep in mind tomo's prio roost is huge, so being able to hit it for SE after roosting is good too
  724. [14:54] %KhosroTheGreat: How does one make utility irrelevant and/or risky?
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  726. [14:54] JDragon6299: are we undergoing some kind of election rn???
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  728. [14:54] %KhosroTheGreat: No we're doing a flashcap jd
  729. [14:54] %KhosroTheGreat: this is concept discussion
  730. [14:54] #HeaLnDeaL: tomo's biggest prio utility moves are roost, haze... and what else?
  731. [14:54] #HeaLnDeaL: taunt?
  732. [14:54] %KhosroTheGreat: stealth rock
  733. [14:55] +Deck Knight: SR, and Drypass
  734. [14:55] Reapehify: Making it irrelevant would be having a pokemon that doesn't care for the utility. So in this case, Tomohawk's utility is haze, substitute, and rocks.
  735. [14:55] #HeaLnDeaL: roost, haze, taunt, SR, baton pass
  736. [14:55] Animaignis: yea
  737. [14:55] +Deck Knight: There's also the Prankster Toxic Stall set, though how prevalent that is I don't know
  738. [14:55] Reapehify: A pokemon that doesn't run stat boosts, can pierce subs and isn't typing crippled by rocks is how.
  739. [14:55] +Da Pizza Man: ^
  740. [14:55] Animaignis: That one isnt very common now deck
  741. [14:55] Animaignis: seen as too cancerous
  742. [14:55] #HeaLnDeaL: so we're not a set up sweeper (avoid haze)
  743. [14:55] Reapehify: ^
  744. [14:55] Animaignis: ye
  745. [14:55] Animaignis: and we can't rely on status
  746. [14:56] +Deck Knight: Well, you could if you had Infiltrator.
  747. [14:56] Reapehify: And due to prankster roost we need brute force.
  748. [14:56] Animaignis: and we have to be strong enough to do over 50% damage, preferable at least 75%
  749. [14:56] +Deck Knight: But Tomo would probably switch out.
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  751. [14:56] Animaignis: so then we need to check the switch-ins too
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  753. [14:56] Animaignis: to some extent
  754. [14:56] #HeaLnDeaL: not activating helmet is nice
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  756. [14:56] Animaignis: or at least Threaten them
  757. [14:56] Reapehify: Yes, which is why we need to be specially inclined, HeaL.
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  759. [14:57] Animaignis: yup
  760. [14:57] %KhosroTheGreat: How are we going to deal with sr and taunt?
  761. [14:57] #HeaLnDeaL: or physically with moves that don't have contact... but those are rare
  762. [14:57] +Da Pizza Man: Like i said earlier, tomo's 3 most common team mates are mega metagross, krillowatt, and colossoil
  763. [14:57] Animaignis: we can't do much about SR
  764. [14:57] %KhosroTheGreat: Magic Bounce is the obvious solution, any alternatives?
  765. [14:57] #HeaLnDeaL: if we have offensive pressure, taunt doesn't both us a ton
  766. [14:57] Reapehify: Typing.
  767. [14:57] Animaignis: I vote no Magic Bounce
  768. [14:57] +Deck Knight: Or are named Stone Miss and priority Roost makes them resisted.
  769. [14:57] Animaignis: thats the easy answer out
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  771. [14:57] #HeaLnDeaL: *bother
  772. [14:57] Reapehify: Typing is the #1 counter to rocks.
  773. [14:57] Reapehify: Well, outside of Magic Bounce.
  774. [14:58] Reapehify: And Magic Guard.
  775. [14:58] +Da Pizza Man: and regenerator
  776. [14:58] #HeaLnDeaL: !dt aroma veil
  777. • Aroma VeilProtects user/allies from Attract, Disable, Encore, Heal Block, Taunt, and Torment.
  778. •
  779. [14:58] Animaignis: *poll jumping*?
  780. [14:58] +Deck Knight: As far as Tomo, if we forced it to have to run Earth Power would that be a win?
  781. [14:58] #HeaLnDeaL: ye poll jumping crazy
  782. [14:58] +Da Pizza Man: we arendefiently poll jumping
  783. [14:58] Animaignis: What if we could resist Earth Power, Aura Sphere, and Hurricane?
  784. [14:58] #HeaLnDeaL: point is, we have multiple abilities that can work, so the direction is not overly specific
  785. [14:58] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  786. [14:59] Animaignis: keep in mind we don't have to all all all around check all of Tomo's roles
  787. [14:59] Animaignis: so we can leave SR
  788. [14:59] +Da Pizza Man: ani that is possible but there is inly one type that can do that
  789. [14:59] Animaignis: yes
  790. [14:59] #HeaLnDeaL: does tomo know heat wave?
  791. [14:59] %KhosroTheGreat: it does
  792. [14:59] Animaignis: yes
  793. [14:59] Animaignis: but it doesnt run it
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  795. [14:59] +Da Pizza Man: !learn tomohawk, heat wave
  796. In Gen 6, Tomohawk can learn Heat Wave from:
  797. • anywhere (all moves are level-up/tutor/TM/HM in gen 6)
  798. [14:59] Reapehify: But it could.
  799. [14:59] %KhosroTheGreat: very often
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  801. [14:59] %KhosroTheGreat: it actually also has prankster sun
  802. [15:00] Animaignis: since Aura Sphere hits Ferrothorn fine, and Metagross threatens too much
  803. [15:00] Animaignis: so not much else for Heat Wave tho
  804. [15:00] Reapehify: I think forcing it to run heat wave would be a win.
  805. [15:00] Animaignis: same
  806. [15:00] #HeaLnDeaL: true
  807. [15:00] %KhosroTheGreat: OK, do I make a closing post or something like that?
  808. [15:00] Reapehify: Since it's so conditional it would create 4mss.
  809. [15:00] Animaignis: yus plz
  810. [15:00] #HeaLnDeaL: yeah, declare our direction, koso
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  812. [15:01] %KhosroTheGreat: the pressure tho
  813. [15:01] #HeaLnDeaL: Obvious Pooter, wanna help us make a tomo killer
  814. [15:01] Animaignis: <no pressure>
  815. [15:01] %KhosroTheGreat: carry on talking while I'm writing up
  816. [15:01] Obvious Pooter: fairy type!
  817. [15:01] Reapehify: It's gen 4.
  818. [15:01] #HeaLnDeaL: we're wrapping up concept discussion right now, typing is next
  819. [15:01] Reapehify: Is fairy allowed?
  820. [15:01] +Da Pizza Man: reaphify its gen 6
  821. [15:01] #HeaLnDeaL: no we can have gen 6 types
  822. [15:01] Animaignis: Fairy type doesnt resist Hurricane tho
  823. [15:01] #HeaLnDeaL: gen 6 mechanics, etc
  824. [15:02] +Da Pizza Man: we just did the concepts gen 4 style
  825. [15:02] Animaignis: I think Hurricane is most important resist
  826. [15:02] Reapehify: It resists Aura Sphere.
  827. [15:02] Reapehify: Oh, okay.
  828. [15:02] Animaignis: And Air Slash
  829. [15:02] Reapehify: I thought it was gen 4 which is why I went Skarm/Bliss. XD
  830. [15:02] +Da Pizza Man: same type
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  832. [15:02] +Deck Knight: Elec/Flying is SR weak, but resists AS, Hurricane, and EP.
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  834. [15:03] Animaignis: thats what i was thinking
  835. [15:03] +Da Pizza Man: poll jumper
  836. [15:03] #HeaLnDeaL: let's not get too far into typing yet
  837. [15:03] Animaignis: didnt we just end this stage?
  838. [15:03] YOGSCAST Mikey: you knows bombing the universe?
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  840. [15:03] Animaignis: So isnt typing next?
  841. [15:03] #HeaLnDeaL: should only be a few minutes before koso is ready
  842. [15:03] +Da Pizza Man: ani yes
  843. [15:03] +Da Pizza Man: just wait till khoso is ready
  844.  
  845. [15:04] Animaignis: Choice Scarf tomo if real :P jk
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  847. [15:04] YOGSCAST Mikey: da pizza man its been a wile
  848. [15:05] Animaignis: its been like 1 minutes dude 9_9
  849. [15:05] Flare the Kid: 1 minutes.
  850. [15:05] Animaignis: lol
  851. [15:05] Animaignis: RIP spelling :P
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  853. [15:05] YOGSCAST Mikey: yes but...
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  855. [15:07] • #HeaLnDeaL tries to whistle
  856. [15:07] YOGSCAST Mikey: sssooooo has anyone seen bombing the universe?
  857. [15:08] • Animaignis can whistle
  858. [15:08] %KhosroTheGreat: ok
  859. [15:08] Animaignis: useful skillz
  860. [15:08] %KhosroTheGreat: It's not amazing but http://pastebin.com/dYKBrRPD
  861. [15:08] • %KhosroTheGreat hopes he did OK
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  863. [15:09] Animaignis: seems legit
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  865. [15:09] #HeaLnDeaL: sounds cool
  866. [15:09] #HeaLnDeaL: we all ready for typing?
  867. [15:09] Reapehify: Seems like it.
  868. [15:09] +Da Pizza Man: yes
  869. [15:09] %KhosroTheGreat: Typing discussion
  870. [15:10] YOGSCAST Mikey: /ph Lilligant
  871. [15:10] %KhosroTheGreat: perhaps we should start with tomo's coverage?
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  873. [15:10] Reapehify: I have one question, first.
  874. [15:10] %KhosroTheGreat: and also perhaps we may want a STAB that beats fighting
  875. [15:10] #HeaLnDeaL: fighting, flying, ground, and maaaaaybe fire, but that one's not important
  876. [15:10] +Da Pizza Man: toyrs reaphify
  877. [15:10] AkyroTheVoid: I think a fairy & ghost type would be best against tomohawk. just my 2 cents.
  878. [15:10] • Animaignis afk
  879. [15:10] Animaignis: I would like to propose Electric and Flying Type. Could eat up Flying and Fighting type moves, be immune to Colo's ground moves/Earth Power, and also be able to check common teammates like Krillowatt (to some extent)
  880. [15:10] Animaignis: yusss
  881. [15:10] • Animaignis is now afk :P
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  883. [15:11] Obvious Pooter: we don't want to be weak to any of flying/fighting/ground
  884. [15:11] Jack Ferry: hi all
  885. [15:11] +Da Pizza Man: akyro reasoning
  886. [15:11] Obvious Pooter: and a resist to flying would be really nice
  887. [15:11] +Da Pizza Man: hi jack
  888. [15:11] Reapehify: So is ghost relevant at all? In that I mean, are we looking to stop Tomohawk from spinning or is ghost type an anchor?
  889. [15:11] #HeaLnDeaL: if it's faster than kril to avoid kril's ice beam, then it's too fast and takes damage fromo colo's eq (assuming roost)
  890. [15:11] Ria: I have returned
  891. [15:11] Ria: What is the topic about right now?
  892. [15:11] Reapehify: Typing.
  893. [15:11] %KhosroTheGreat: Typing 1
  894. [15:11] %KhosroTheGreat: wait not 1
  895. [15:12] %KhosroTheGreat: just typing
  896. [15:12] Jack Ferry: tfw only pizza notices you
  897. [15:12] Reapehify: So is ghost type in play for spin block?
  898. [15:12] #HeaLnDeaL: hi jack
  899. [15:12] AkyroTheVoid: tomo has no poison or steel type moves to take out a fairy type & ghost type blocks fighting & normal type moves such as aura sphere and rapid spin.
  900. [15:12] Jack Ferry: to late now
  901. [15:12] #HeaLnDeaL: we;re making a flash cap that eats tomo for breakfast
  902. [15:12] %KhosroTheGreat: I think ghost type has merits, as its immune to aura sphere and rapid spin
  903. [15:12] Jack Ferry: flashcap is back
  904. [15:12] Reapehify: So do I.
  905. [15:12] lightninging2: ghost/fairy?????
  906. [15:12] Ria: Yeah I know the concept, just wondering what part was up to
  907. [15:12] Jack Ferry: i got it why dont we take tomo
  908. [15:12] #HeaLnDeaL: typing
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  910. [15:13] Jack Ferry: and push it somewhere else
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  912. [15:13] Jack Ferry: honestly an elec type probably wou
  913. [15:13] #HeaLnDeaL: ghost fairy is neutral to flying, which might be a bad selling point
  914. [15:13] Jack Ferry: ld do well
  915. [15:13] Reapehify: I propose ghost/ice type. Attempting to force Tomohawk to run Heat Wave to kill, sacrificing its utility and lowering its usage.
  916. [15:13] #HeaLnDeaL: but ghost/fairy could still work
  917. [15:13] Jack Ferry: electric flying probs would be best
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  919. [15:13] Jack Ferry: resist tomo in everyway
  920. [15:14] #HeaLnDeaL: what does ghost ice do that ghost fairy doesn't
  921. [15:14] +Da Pizza Man: but its weak to sr
  922. [15:14] AkyroTheVoid: ^
  923. [15:14] Cap God Blawado: hey , why is focusblastr better than bugbuzz on this moth thingy
  924. [15:14] Reapehify: It provides a weakness in Heat Wave that forces potential move slot syndrome potential.
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  926. [15:14] %KhosroTheGreat: So we've had ghost, electric, fairy and flying as potential typings, perhaps we should look at possible common tomo partners and how we should pair these typings?
  927. [15:15] +Da Pizza Man: khosro
  928. [15:15] Jack Ferry: cap god do you mean aurumoth
  929. [15:15] Cap God Blawado: yes
  930. [15:15] +Da Pizza Man: this is the third time i said this
  931. [15:15] +Deck Knight: Fairy/Electric resists Aura Sphere and Hurricane, and isn't weak to SR. It it weak to RP though.
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  933. [15:15] Ria: No Guard I'm assuming
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  935. [15:15] Cap God Blawado: i mean
  936. [15:15] +Da Pizza Man: the 3 most common partners for tomo are mega metagross, krillowatt, and colossoil
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  938. [15:15] Cap God Blawado: all the things it could hit are dark anyways
  939. [15:15] Jack Ferry: buzz bug and focus blast have thier uses
  940. [15:15] %KhosroTheGreat: I know, so go discuss them
  941. [15:16] Cap God Blawado: against what matchup focusblast is good ß
  942. [15:16] Cap God Blawado: ?
  943. [15:16] %KhosroTheGreat: and now you're not poll jumping when you talk about possible typing to check them
  944. [15:16] #HeaLnDeaL: ground hurts kril and gross
  945. [15:16] Animaignis: We need the flying resist.
  946. [15:16] Reapehify: Anything that resists flying is weak to earth power or hurricane.
  947. [15:16] +Deck Knight: From Usage in Jan: Teammates above 5% are Slowbro, Ferrothorn, Mega-Meta, Cyclohm, Jirachi, and Volkraken.
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  949. [15:16] Animaignis: Electric-Fairy like Deck said could work
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  951. [15:16] +Da Pizza Man: reaphify not if its part flying
  952. [15:17] Reapehify: Yes, but that's the only way.
  953. [15:17] Cap God Blawado: thanks for the help... <-<
  954. [15:17] Animaignis: I still thick Electric-Flying would be nice
  955. [15:17] +Da Pizza Man: deck i used 1630
  956. [15:17] +Da Pizza Man: what did you use
  957. [15:17] AkyroTheVoid: electric/fairy sounds like a good option too.
  958. [15:17] +Deck Knight: 1760
  959. [15:17] Reapehify: Shots fired.
  960. [15:17] +Da Pizza Man: lol
  961. [15:17] Animaignis: We might need Levitate if other typing tho, depending on the stats
  962. [15:18] +Da Pizza Man: most of tomos partners are weak to ground, but at the same time tomo is immune to it
  963. [15:18] #HeaLnDeaL: idk this is a close one.. I think I like fairy ghost... ghost lets it beat gross, and fairy can beat colo... but being weak to knock off is scary
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  965. [15:18] Animaignis: But it is not resisting Hurricane
  966. [15:18] Animaignis: baaaad idea
  967. [15:18] %KhosroTheGreat: fairy/ghost is neutral, heal
  968. [15:18] Reapehify: Which is fine.
  969. [15:18] #HeaLnDeaL: ye it is
  970. [15:18] %KhosroTheGreat: oh that's the point
  971. [15:18] %KhosroTheGreat: I see
  972. [15:18] Animaignis: It should be able to switch into Tomo all around
  973. [15:18] +Deck Knight: Elec/Flying has the advantage of also threatening most of Tomo's teammates. Mega-Meta can hit it with Ice Punch but really hates para. The rest have fairly neural matchups.
  974. [15:18] #HeaLnDeaL: idk, electric fairy is cool too. I think we can still survive EP well
  975. [15:19] Animaignis: I still vote Electric-Flying
  976. [15:19] %KhosroTheGreat: let's not vote anything until the actual votes lol
  977. [15:19] AkyroTheVoid: I think Fairy/Ghost or Fairy/Electric would be the best options.
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  979. [15:19] Candle Jerk: Steel/Electric
  980. [15:19] #HeaLnDeaL: EP is common, but at least tomo doesn't get STAB on it.
  981. [15:20] #HeaLnDeaL: steel / electric makes EP a sizable prollum tho
  982. [15:20] Animaignis: Because it can easily eat an Ice Beam from Krillo, depending on SpD, or it can predict to dodge Colo EQ
  983. [15:20] %KhosroTheGreat: So, Electric/Flying is already existant as Zapdos, why does zapdos not eating tomo up in CAP already?
  984. [15:20] Ria: From what I'm seeing
  985. [15:20] Ria: Fairy, Electric, and Flying are the three main types
  986. [15:20] Animaignis: Because Zapdos can't deal with Colo
  987. Coverage for Flying:
  988. Super Effective: Bug, Fighting, Grass
  989. Neutral: Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Ground, Ice, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Water
  990. Resists: Electric, Rock, Steel
  991. Immunities: None
  992. [15:20] Animaignis: It has electric moves, no flying STAB, and Heat Wave.
  993. [15:21] DrapionSwing: /ban KhosroTheGreat 1hour Change your name to KhosroTheGrandad
  994. [15:21] Animaignis: lol
  995. [15:21] #HeaLnDeaL: Steel/Flying?
  996. [15:21] %KhosroTheGreat: lol drap
  997. [15:21] Lakiro: water/bug. Good typing
  998. [15:21] +Deck Knight: If CAP had Hurricane Soil wouldn't want to mess with it I don't think. Really hates Confusion.
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  1000. [15:21] Animaignis: Hi Tada
  1001. [15:21] %KhosroTheGreat: that's a bit luck-dependant
  1002. [15:21] Reapehify: So we're not going to worry about rock weakness/
  1003. [15:21] Animaignis: i vote no
  1004. [15:21] Reapehify: Is what I'm hearing.
  1005. [15:21] DrapionSwing: You have to get the confusion
  1006. [15:21] Animaignis: teammates can deal with rocks
  1007. [15:21] DrapionSwing: And then get the selfharm
  1008. [15:22] +Deck Knight: True, I also don't think people use Rain-Tomo with Soil.
  1009. [15:22] Animaignis: true.
  1010. [15:22] Reapehify: That doesn't make it deal with tomohawk all around though, if it's weak to rocks.
  1011. [15:22] #HeaLnDeaL: steel flying hates kril but is decent vs gross. resists hurricane.
  1012. [15:22] Reapehify: I like Steel/Flying.
  1013. [15:22] +Da Pizza Man: same
  1014. [15:22] Reapehify: That's my preferable flying type.
  1015. [15:22] DrapionSwing: Can someone link me to the Cap 22 thing
  1016. [15:22] Candle Jerk: A better Eelektross
  1017. [15:22] DrapionSwing: Where people post there ideas
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  1019. [15:22] DrapionSwing: I forgot the name
  1020. [15:22] %KhosroTheGreat: not up yet iirc
  1021. [15:22] AkyroTheVoid: I mean, if your worried about hurricane, we could always give it good Special Defense when we get to determining it's stats. I think Fairy/Ghost could work if we do that.
  1022. [15:23] #HeaLnDeaL: hmm atm I like fairy/electric, fairy/ghost, flying/steel, and flying/eletric
  1023. [15:23] Animaignis: or Ground/Flying with good SpD
  1024. [15:23] DrapionSwing: Are we talking about potential Cap 22 stats and typing?
  1025. [15:23] +Da Pizza Man: no
  1026. [15:23] Jack Ferry: ice elect?
  1027. [15:23] Ria: No
  1028. [15:23] Reapehify: Similarly I like Fairy/Ice as given the proper ability, it would put Tomohawk in the odd position of running Heat Wave.
  1029. [15:23] +Da Pizza Man: flash cap
  1030. [15:24] %KhosroTheGreat: no drap, this is flashcap
  1031. [15:24] #HeaLnDeaL: no, we're making a falsh cap
  1032. [15:24] %KhosroTheGreat: which eats tomo for breakfast
  1033. [15:24] #HeaLnDeaL: *flash
  1034. [15:24] DrapionSwing: What's flash cap?
  1035. [15:24] +Deck Knight: Fairy/Ice is neutral to Aura Sphere and Hurricane
  1036. [15:24] Animaignis: I dislike Steel/Flying a bit because i feel it will either end up lookiing like Cawm or Skarm
  1037. [15:24] Jack Ferry: a "play " cap
  1038. [15:24] Animaignis: Fairy/Ice would be neat.
  1039. [15:24] Reapehify: Ice deals with Colossoil while Ghost deals with Metagross and Slowbro.
  1040. [15:24] DrapionSwing: a play cap?
  1041. [15:24] Jack Ferry: like we make up a quick cap
  1042. [15:24] Ria: Just going thru the steps in the chat
  1043. [15:24] #HeaLnDeaL: well we'll likely be a special steel flying, so idk
  1044. [15:24] %KhosroTheGreat: deck knight why do we need the ice typing if we have fairy already?
  1045. [15:24] Animaignis: a fakefakemon
  1046. [15:24] Ria: Won't be added to the server or anything
  1047. [15:24] DrapionSwing: Ohh
  1048. [15:24] Jack Ferry: it never goes anywhere
  1049. [15:24] DrapionSwing: I get it
  1050. [15:24] +Deck Knight: I didn't suggest Ice/Fairy
  1051. [15:24] +Deck Knight: I was criticizing it
  1052. [15:24] DrapionSwing: Can we have a poison dark scorpion cap?
  1053. [15:24] Reapehify: I suggested Ice/Ghost.
  1054. [15:25] Animaignis: That could be neat
  1055. [15:25] Animaignis: I like Ice/Ghost
  1056. [15:25] DrapionSwing: Fairy fire would be cool
  1057. [15:25] %KhosroTheGreat: Should I wrap it up, HeaLnDeaL?
  1058. [15:25] Animaignis: except it is still weak to SR tho, but idk if that can be avoided
  1059. [15:25] +Da Pizza Man: so Khosro do we have a slate or do we need more time
  1060. [15:25] Reapehify: Probably create a pool, Khosro.
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  1062. [15:25] Reapehify: poll*
  1063. [15:25] #HeaLnDeaL: hmm fairy/fire seems interesting
  1064. [15:25] DrapionSwing: Animaignis we're meant to be not weak to sr?
  1065. [15:25] Animaignis: Yes fill up a pool we can have swim party
  1066. [15:26] Animaignis: no it was just considered Drapion
  1067. [15:26] Animaignis: we can be weak to SR
  1068. [15:26] #HeaLnDeaL: ugh this will be a REALLY tough poll
  1069. [15:26] Reapehify: It would be preferable.
  1070. [15:26] Reapehify: I wish we could get two votes.
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  1072. [15:26] DrapionSwing: Fairy fire potentially scares some big threats in cap with the fairy typing and that fire typing hitting noicely through some odd things
  1073. [15:26] Animaignis: true @ HeaL
  1074. [15:26] DrapionSwing: HeaLnDeaL didn't you list 4 alreayd?
  1075. [15:26] Animaignis: Earth Power and Colo tho
  1076. [15:26] DrapionSwing: already*
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  1078. [15:27] Animaignis: u would have to outspeed and OHKO both
  1079. [15:27] #HeaLnDeaL: fire makes fire not metagross bait
  1080. [15:27] +Da Pizza Man: fairy/fire isn't a bad idea, but not sure
  1081. [15:27] #HeaLnDeaL: *makes fairy not metagross bait
  1082. [15:27] Animaignis: Im not sure about it tho
  1083. [15:27] #HeaLnDeaL: tbh I'm not sure on any typing
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  1085. [15:27] Animaignis: ye
  1086. [15:27] DrapionSwing: lol I don't even know what we're aiming to do I just name something to beat colo and tomo and added fire for cawm so it doesn't get free switches
  1087. [15:28] +Da Pizza Man: drapion http://pastebin.com/dYKBrRPD
  1088. [15:28] #HeaLnDeaL: the concept is Tomo killer, the direction is ^
  1089. [15:28] Animaignis: Im still like Ice/Ghost tho it can threaten pretty well, but Metagross's Bullet Punch would hurt
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  1091. [15:28] AkyroTheVoid: fairy seems like a must as tomo has no poison or steel moves. for the second typing, either electric or ghost seems best imo, but that's just me.
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  1093. [15:29] DrapionSwing: To prevent tomo from gaining momentum eh?
  1094. [15:29] %KhosroTheGreat: what should slate size be approx?
  1095. [15:29] Animaignis: Idk about Fairy only because it has Metagross as a partner
  1096. [15:29] #HeaLnDeaL: blah I think we might have reached a stalemate. poll time I guess
  1097. [15:29] Animaignis: yus
  1098. [15:29] Hype-Emerald: Ooh, somebody I haven't met before!
  1099. [15:29] %KhosroTheGreat: like 1-4 or 5-8?
  1100. [15:29] #HeaLnDeaL: 5-8 options for poll 1, poll 2 has top 3
  1101. [15:29] Hype-Emerald: hello drapion
  1102. [15:29] +Da Pizza Man: khosro up to you, usually 4-6
  1103. [15:29] DrapionSwing: WAITR
  1104. [15:29] DrapionSwing: Before we do one can I say 1 last thign
  1105. [15:30] +Da Pizza Man: heal unless there is a vast majority on one option
  1106. [15:30] #HeaLnDeaL: if you hurry
  1107. [15:30] DrapionSwing: I forgot
  1108. [15:30] DrapionSwing: I put myself under too much pressure :(
  1109. [15:30] #HeaLnDeaL: then no you cannot say one last thing
  1110. [15:30] DrapionSwing: xD , and Hello Hype-Emerald
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  1112. [15:30] Animaignis: RIP Drapion :P
  1113. [15:30] Candle Jerk: oh we're talking about a poke to beat Tomo?
  1114. [15:30] #HeaLnDeaL: aight, we're ready for the poll when you are KhosroTheGreat
  1115. [15:30] Ria: Yep
  1116. [15:30] DrapionSwing: Ground psychic!
  1117. [15:30] DrapionSwing: I did it
  1118. [15:31] Candle Jerk: Fairy/Water
  1119. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  1120. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  1121. [15:31] #HeaLnDeaL: ground psychic makes us colo bait
  1122. [15:31] lightninging2: cmon fairy/ghost lets get some new typing combos in here
  1123. [15:32] Animaignis: ;-; cant decide between ghost/flying and electric/flying
  1124. [15:32] DrapionSwing: Doesn't 95% of ground mons get a fighting move
  1125. [15:32] Animaignis: true
  1126. [15:32] Animaignis: not that percent
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  1128. [15:32] Ria: Like Brick Break
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  1130. [15:32] DrapionSwing: But a fair amount get fighting coverage
  1131. [15:32] Animaignis: but lots of ground types at least get Brick Break or Superpower
  1132. [15:32] Candle Jerk: 95% of anything gets Fighting moves
  1133. [15:32] Animaignis: lol
  1134. [15:32] Reapehify: Looks like time for poll #2.
  1135. [15:32] Ria: If you wanna count Rock Smash lol
  1136. [15:32] DrapionSwing: But then it's a 50/50 which makes it very chance oriented.
  1137. [15:33] %KhosroTheGreat: 9 votes is a bit low when we have 50 users on
  1138. [15:33] Animaignis: Rock Smash pro coverage :P
  1139. [15:33] DrapionSwing: Khos I'm deciding :(
  1140. [15:33] %KhosroTheGreat: deciding what?
  1141. [15:33] DrapionSwing: on what to pick
  1142. [15:33] Reapehify: You have to remember how many decided before. Active users are probably closer to 16.
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  1144. [15:33] %KhosroTheGreat: yeah, I was saying to have more time
  1145. [15:34] %KhosroTheGreat: before iirc 12-15 people voted
  1146. [15:34] Reapehify: Roughly.
  1147. [15:34] %KhosroTheGreat: but a few more people came in
  1148. [15:34] Animaignis: lol
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  1150. [15:35] %KhosroTheGreat: I'll give it a bit more time, let's say 2-3 mins max.
  1151. [15:35] CantGreggMe: :I fairy/electric
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  1153. [15:35] DrapionSwing: KhosroTheGreat what happens after 2-3mins?
  1154. [15:35] CantGreggMe: theres no fairy-fire
  1155. [15:35] CantGreggMe: :/
  1156. [15:36] Ria: After 2-3 minutes, that poll ends and another comes up with more refind options
  1157. [15:36] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  1158. [15:36] DrapionSwing: All-in-all what happens with all of this?
  1159. [15:36] CantGreggMe: Pls no fairy/electric
  1160. [15:36] CantGreggMe: please
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  1162. [15:36] %KhosroTheGreat: because?
  1163. [15:36] #HeaLnDeaL: why not, gregg
  1164. [15:36] DrapionSwing: Does HeaLnDeaL do the cheeky slide to the council? ;P
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  1166. [15:37] #HeaLnDeaL: ?
  1167. [15:37] DrapionSwing: You know they old pass and secret
  1168. [15:37] DrapionSwing: The old wishy washy
  1169. [15:37] Ria: Pretty much it's a fun chat experience
  1170. [15:37] #HeaLnDeaL: there is no council, there is no cheeky slide
  1171. [15:37] Ria: This won't be added as a Pokemon anywhere
  1172. [15:37] %KhosroTheGreat: I think he's talking about TLT?
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  1174. [15:38] %KhosroTheGreat: alright been 3 minutes
  1175. [15:38] DrapionSwing: Tbh Ria I think that this should at least be taken into consideration
  1176. [15:38] #HeaLnDeaL: time for poll 2
  1177. [15:38] %KhosroTheGreat: we have a draw for 3rd place
  1178. [15:38] #HeaLnDeaL: just top 2
  1179. [15:38] %KhosroTheGreat: drap did you make up your mind?
  1180. [15:38] %KhosroTheGreat: OK
  1181. [15:38] Ria: I don't make the rules aha
  1182. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  1183. Poll ended What typing for our FlashCAP?
  1184. 1. Fairy/Ghost (3 votes)
  1185. 25%
  1186. 2. Ghost/Flying (1 vote)
  1187. 8%
  1188. 3. Electric/Flying (2 votes)
  1189. 17%
  1190. 4. Steel/Flying (1 vote)
  1191. 8%
  1192. 5. Fairy/Electric (3 votes)
  1193. 25%
  1194. 6. Fairy/Fire (2 votes)
  1195. 17%
  1196. [15:38] DrapionSwing: Yee I did ^_^
  1197. [15:39] #HeaLnDeaL: oh... umm
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  1199. [15:39] DrapionSwing: Tie between Fairy ghost and Fairy electric
  1200. [15:39] #HeaLnDeaL: I guess top 3
  1201. [15:39] DrapionSwing: Top 4*
  1202. [15:39] #HeaLnDeaL: oh eait
  1203. [15:39] #HeaLnDeaL: *eait
  1204. [15:39] #HeaLnDeaL: *wait
  1205. [15:39] #HeaLnDeaL: top 2
  1206. [15:39] DrapionSwing: lol
  1207. [15:39] Ria: eat* ;)
  1208. [15:39] DrapionSwing: ^
  1209. Poll What typing for our FlashCAP?
  1210. 1. Fairy/Ghost (8 votes)
  1211. 73%
  1212. 2. Fairy/Electric (3 votes)
  1213. 27%
  1214. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  1215. [15:39] #HeaLnDeaL: ugh
  1216. [15:39] #HeaLnDeaL: this is a really hard decision
  1217. [15:39] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  1218. [15:39] DrapionSwing: I think fairy ghost
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  1220. [15:39] Reapehify: Wasn't hard for me.
  1221. [15:40] #HeaLnDeaL: ghost means spin block, electric means resist hurricane
  1222. [15:40] DrapionSwing: At least it doesn't allow metagross
  1223. [15:40] CantGreggMe: fiary-gost would have only 2 weakness
  1224. [15:40] CantGreggMe: fairy*
  1225. [15:40] Ria: I made my totally unbiased choice
  1226. [15:40] Reapehify: I want to avoid Earth Power more than Hurricane resistance.
  1227. Fairy/Ghost:
  1228. Weaknesses: Ghost, Steel
  1229. Resistances: Bug
  1230. Immunities: Dragon, Fighting, Normal
  1231. [15:40] DrapionSwing: SHIT
  1232. [15:40] DrapionSwing: I VOTED FOR FAIRY ELECTRIC
  1233. [15:40] Ria: Misclicked?
  1234. [15:40] DrapionSwing: :(
  1235. [15:40] %KhosroTheGreat: it's OK we can move it across
  1236. [15:40] DrapionSwing: oh
  1237. [15:40] DrapionSwing: lmao
  1238. [15:40] %KhosroTheGreat: also watch your caps plz
  1239. [15:40] +Deck Knight: Went for the block
  1240. [15:40] Animaignis: I went for Fairy/Ghost since it would be cooled :I
  1241. [15:40] DrapionSwing: Sowwy khos
  1242. [15:40] Animaignis: cooler*
  1243. [15:40] +Da Pizza Man: khosro i thought we said no to that
  1244. [15:41] #HeaLnDeaL: wow, looks like a landslide
  1245. [15:41] DrapionSwing: Who chose Fairy Electric, I wanna know their thought process
  1246. [15:41] Candle Jerk: don't look at me, I voted of Kodos
  1247. [15:41] %KhosroTheGreat: I haven't chosen yet o.o
  1248. [15:41] Reapehify: No to what?
  1249. [15:41] Ria: I wonder if I'm the only one that thinks of Pink Lemonade when I see Fairy/Electric
  1250. [15:41] Animaignis: hmm wonder which one is gonna win this :P
  1251. [15:41] +Da Pizza Man: revotes
  1252. [15:41] Animaignis: yes pink lemonade for dayz
  1253. [15:41] +Deck Knight: I think of Pikachu clones
  1254. [15:41] DrapionSwing: I think of Fairy Electric types.
  1255. [15:42] Animaignis: rofl
  1256. [15:42] Ria: Dedenee! I forgot all about that thing
  1257. [15:42] Reapehify: I think of Dedenne.
  1258. [15:42] Animaignis: lol
  1259. [15:42] CantGreggMe: I think of defensive dedenne
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  1261. [15:42] #HeaLnDeaL: Sunfished
  1262. [15:42] %KhosroTheGreat: Poll finished in 1 min
  1263. [15:42] DrapionSwing: someone highlight me for the next discussion pls
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  1265. [15:43] +Da Pizza Man: next is checks and counters
  1266. [15:43] +Da Pizza Man: iirc
  1267. [15:43] #HeaLnDeaL: ye but it will go super super fast
  1268. [15:43] #HeaLnDeaL: since our concept defines it a ton
  1269. [15:44] %KhosroTheGreat: k
  1270. [15:44] %KhosroTheGreat: poll ending now
  1271. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  1272. Poll ended What typing for our FlashCAP?
  1273. 1. Fairy/Ghost (8 votes)
  1274. 62%
  1275. 2. Fairy/Electric (5 votes)
  1276. 38%
  1277. [15:44] %KhosroTheGreat: fairy/ghost is our typing
  1278. [15:44] #HeaLnDeaL: so fairy ghost wins?
  1279. [15:44] Animaignis: yayy
  1280. [15:44] #HeaLnDeaL: k
  1281. [15:44] %KhosroTheGreat: I guess
  1282. [15:45] Candle Jerk: I shall call it Tidus
  1283. [15:45] #HeaLnDeaL: I'll go tell the art room. Sunfished, Sunfished, Sunfished
  1284. [15:45] Animaignis: Sunfish gotta git some draws
  1285. [15:45] %KhosroTheGreat: git draw
  1286. [15:45] %KhosroTheGreat: lol
  1287. [15:45] Animaignis: :P
  1288. [15:45] +Da Pizza Man: next up, checks and counters
  1289. [15:45] %KhosroTheGreat: m-meta
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  1291. [15:45] %KhosroTheGreat: if we don't outspeed
  1292. [15:45] Animaignis: :o
  1293. [15:46] Animaignis: o shat
  1294. [15:46] %KhosroTheGreat: hits SE, but so do we
  1295. [15:46] +Da Pizza Man: meta does a very good job at checking us if we are outsped
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  1297. [15:46] +Sunfished: oh hii
  1298. [15:46] Ria: Hiya
  1299. [15:46] %KhosroTheGreat: !coverage fairy/ghost
  1300. No type or move 'fairy/ghost' found.
  1301. [15:46] +Sunfished: oh you're done?
  1302. [15:46] Animaignis: the Sunfish \o/
  1303. [15:46] DrapionSwing: Depends on if we have any phys bulk
  1304. [15:46] %KhosroTheGreat: oops
  1305. [15:46] Animaignis: /coverage fairy, ghost
  1306. [15:46] +Da Pizza Man: !coverage fairy, ghost
  1307. Coverage for Fairy + Ghost:
  1308. Super Effective: Dark, Dragon, Fighting, Ghost, Psychic
  1309. Neutral: Bug, Electric, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Grass, Ground, Ice, Normal, Poison, Rock, Steel, Water
  1310. Resists: None
  1311. Immunities: None
  1312. [15:46] Animaignis: only resisted by normal types,
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  1314. [15:47] +Da Pizza Man: not even
  1315. [15:47] DrapionSwing: Its defo not a defensive typing
  1316. [15:47] +Sunfished: what are the stats, if you guys did that?
  1317. [15:47] DrapionSwing: And it's immune to normal is it not?
  1318. [15:47] Animaignis: nope
  1319. [15:47] Ria: Not up to stats yet
  1320. [15:47] %KhosroTheGreat: !weak fairy/ghost
  1321. Fairy/Ghost:
  1322. Weaknesses: Ghost, Steel
  1323. Resistances: Bug
  1324. Immunities: Dragon, Fighting, Normal
  1325. [15:47] +Da Pizza Man: sunfished we just finished typing
  1326. [15:47] %KhosroTheGreat: stats not done yet Sunfished
  1327. [15:47] +Sunfished: oh
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  1329. [15:47] CantGreggMe: lots of immunities
  1330. [15:47] CantGreggMe: which is good
  1331. [15:47] %KhosroTheGreat: jirachi and cawm are major steel types in CAP
  1332. [15:47] Ria: (good thing Aegislash is banned)
  1333. [15:47] DrapionSwing: KhosroTheGreat before we can give it a counter etc can we have stats first?
  1334. [15:47] %KhosroTheGreat: no
  1335. [15:48] +Da Pizza Man: drapion that goes latter
  1336. [15:48] DrapionSwing: And offensive or defensive roll?
  1337. [15:48] +Da Pizza Man: again latter
  1338. [15:48] DrapionSwing: 0_0
  1339. [15:48] Animaignis: .-.
  1340. [15:48] DrapionSwing: So I'm just going type wise here?
  1341. [15:48] +Da Pizza Man: yes
  1342. [15:48] %KhosroTheGreat: pretty much
  1343. [15:48] DrapionSwing: why not put this at the end XD
  1344. [15:48] Animaignis: Cawm sweep \o/
  1345. [15:48] Animaignis: always refreshing
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  1347. [15:49] #HeaLnDeaL: seems like scizor should be able to beat us up
  1348. [15:49] %KhosroTheGreat: depending on speed, movepool and bulk, major steel and poison types such as Cawmodore, M-Meta, Cruci, Jirachi, Ferrothorn and Scizor beat us
  1349. [15:49] DrapionSwing: And bish
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  1351. [15:49] Animaignis: yea Scizor gonna murder
  1352. [15:50] +Da Pizza Man: poison types not really
  1353. [15:50] Animaignis: And Jirachi, depending on speed
  1354. [15:50] +Da Pizza Man: we have ghost stab for them
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  1356. [15:50] %KhosroTheGreat: still weak to poison
  1357. [15:50] Reapehify: Poison takes neutral damage so Cruci shouldn't be considered for typing alone.
  1358. [15:50] +Da Pizza Man: khosro ghost resists poison
  1359. [15:50] Animaignis: ^
  1360. [15:50] +Da Pizza Man: do its neutral
  1361. [15:50] +Da Pizza Man: so
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  1363. [15:50] %KhosroTheGreat: depr
  1364. [15:50] %KhosroTheGreat: *derp
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  1366. [15:50] CantGreggMe: which leaves steel
  1367. [15:50] Reapehify: Crucibelle raw strength would be a concern but it is for most.
  1368. [15:50] #HeaLnDeaL: I think we should attempt to not be total caw bait
  1369. [15:51] #HeaLnDeaL: since tomo isn't
  1370. [15:51] +Da Pizza Man: we are weak to steel and ghost
  1371. [15:51] Animaignis: yes lets not make more cawm bait
  1372. [15:51] Reapehify: Which portion is this?
  1373. [15:51] Reapehify: Stats?
  1374. [15:51] #HeaLnDeaL: checks/counters
  1375. [15:51] +Da Pizza Man: reaphify checks and counters
  1376. [15:51] Reapehify: Oh, okay.
  1377. [15:51] %KhosroTheGreat: *Ghost and Steel types such as Cawmodore, M-Meta, Jirachi, Ferro, Zor, Kitsunoh and Necturna
  1378. [15:52] Reapehify: Shouldn't the viability list be consulted for threats, for starters?
  1379. [15:52] CantGreggMe: we check dark types
  1380. [15:52] DrapionSwing: << best dark type
  1381. [15:52] %KhosroTheGreat: vr is slightly old iirc but it probably still works
  1382. [15:52] Reapehify: How could you be forgetting Gengar?
  1383. [15:52] DrapionSwing: But not relevant to this meta sadly
  1384. [15:52] Reapehify: Or Alakazam?
  1385. [15:53] CantGreggMe: atleast we beat m-sableye
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  1387. [15:53] %KhosroTheGreat: colo means gengar has lowered usage
  1388. [15:53] %KhosroTheGreat: same with ala
  1389. [15:53] Animaignis: ye
  1390. [15:53] Reapehify: Still a threat.
  1391. [15:53] %KhosroTheGreat: true
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  1393. [15:53] Reapehify: Gengar has Hypnosis and Destiny Bond, plus Disable/Protect.
  1394. [15:53] %KhosroTheGreat: but those are the major CAP threats I saw from looking at teambuilder
  1395. We dont Tect those and heyguy left
  1396. [15:53] Jack Ferry: I feel like ghost fairy wouldn't like necturna or kitsunoh
  1397. [15:53] Jack Ferry: but meh
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  1399. [15:54] +Da Pizza Man: our typing doesn't reslly have us be directly countered by anything
  1400. [15:54] DrapionSwing: Doesn't chancey give this mon some trouble?
  1401. [15:54] CantGreggMe: not really
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  1403. [15:54] +Da Pizza Man: it could
  1404. [15:54] Reapehify: Yes, likely.
  1405. [15:54] #HeaLnDeaL: other than like scizor, dpm
  1406. [15:54] +Da Pizza Man: yeah
  1407. [15:54] CantGreggMe: can seismic toss hit ghost?
  1408. [15:54] Reapehify: We have to go special side for tomo and chansey would be a wall.
  1409. [15:54] Reapehify: No.
  1410. [15:54] DrapionSwing: Chancy can come in
  1411. [15:54] DrapionSwing: And do what it wants realisticly
  1412. [15:54] DrapionSwing: I doubt a play rough will do anything
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  1414. [15:54] Animaignis: :I
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  1416. [15:54] Reapehify: It could toxic.
  1417. [15:55] %KhosroTheGreat: do we have to go onto the special side for tomo?
  1418. [15:55] +Da Pizza Man: khosro not nessecarly
  1419. [15:55] %KhosroTheGreat: I don't see why we couldn't just have Play Rough?
  1420. [15:55] Reapehify: Given most sets run physically with rocky helmet, it's preferable.
  1421. [15:55] #HeaLnDeaL: would help, but not needed
  1422. [15:55] Reapehify: It hits Tomohawk on his weak side.
  1423. [15:55] +Da Pizza Man: plus there is no good physical ghost stab
  1424. [15:55] Reapehify: Making him less bulky, and more vulnerable.
  1425. [15:55] DrapionSwing: Play rough means shitty ghost stab tho
  1426. [15:55] DrapionSwing: unless mixed.
  1427. [15:56] Animaignis: i think mixed would be neat
  1428. [15:56] +Deck Knight: Go special. The only thing Chansey can do is Toxic us
  1429. [15:56] +Da Pizza Man: why are we doing stats?
  1430. [15:56] Reapehify: I agree.
  1431. [15:56] +Deck Knight: We're immune to SToss
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  1433. [15:56] Reapehify: Stats determine checks/counters, without directly talking numbers.
  1434. [15:56] +Da Pizza Man: oh
  1435. [15:56] CantGreggMe: what about scylant :0
  1436. [15:56] +Da Pizza Man: syclant isn't an issue
  1437. [15:56] +Da Pizza Man: at all
  1438. [15:56] #HeaLnDeaL: k, scizor beats us. what else do we want to beat us? besides tomo, what else do we really want to kill? simple as that
  1439. [15:56] %KhosroTheGreat: colo
  1440. [15:57] #HeaLnDeaL: so we want to beat tomo and colo
  1441. [15:57] +Da Pizza Man: we want to beat tomo partners
  1442. [15:57] Candle Jerk: Megagross
  1443. [15:57] +Da Pizza Man: ^
  1444. [15:57] %KhosroTheGreat: so mega meta and krill
  1445. [15:57] Animaignis: metagross, krillowatt
  1446. [15:57] Animaignis: colo
  1447. [15:57] #HeaLnDeaL: tomo, colo, megagross, krill.
  1448. [15:57] +Deck Knight: Metagross is a mutual check since it's Ghost weak
  1449. [15:57] CantGreggMe: masically we need some type of fire type
  1450. [15:57] Reapehify: I think the typing covers all psychic/dark/fighting types.
  1451. [15:57] CantGreggMe: basically*
  1452. [15:57] Jack Ferry: its hard to beat tomo and everything it brings as back-ups
  1453. [15:57] DrapionSwing: Isn't mega loupunny basically like m-meta?
  1454. [15:57] +Da Pizza Man: anything we want to be beat by
  1455. [15:57] DrapionSwing: Oh
  1456. [15:58] DrapionSwing: nvm
  1457. [15:58] +Deck Knight: Oddly, we actually resist Lopunny's Fighting STAB even with Scrappy.
  1458. [15:58] Reapehify: Things that are anti Tomohawk?
  1459. We dont Tect those joined
  1460. [15:58] CantGreggMe: scarf excadrill will be a problem
  1461. [15:58] Animaignis: true
  1462. [15:58] %KhosroTheGreat: If we have decent spd, we may be able to wall krill by bulk and a lack of weakness to anything
  1463. [15:58] DrapionSwing: I think stall in general will just beat this mon.
  1464. [15:58] Reapehify: We still haven't discussed Cawmodore.
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  1466. [15:58] %KhosroTheGreat: We said we shouldn't be bait to it
  1467. [15:58] Animaignis: ^
  1468. [15:58] Reapehify: Yes so Shadow Ball is good enough?
  1469. [15:58] Jack Ferry: oo what about naviathan
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  1471. [15:59] Animaignis: :I
  1472. [15:59] Candle Jerk: what about naviathan
  1473. [15:59] +Deck Knight: Couple answers to that - Strong Shadow Balls, Will-o-Wisp, etc.
  1474. [15:59] Reapehify: That's true.
  1475. [15:59] Jack Ferry: navi is a strong non-burnable steel type
  1476. [15:59] Reapehify: It could be a great answer.
  1477. [15:59] Reapehify: It likes rain with Tomohawk.
  1478. [15:59] +Deck Knight: Naviathan should probably be a check. Not much we can do to it and both CM and DD can be problematic.
  1479. [16:00] Animaignis: ^
  1480. [16:00] Reapehify: That sounds like a great place to start, then.
  1481. [16:00] +Deck Knight: I'm honestly fine with Navi doing that - it shares an Elec weak with Tomohawk and is one of the lesser used CAPs.
  1482. [16:00] %KhosroTheGreat: Don't want to get onto moves but whether or not we have will-o-wisp will mean whether or not we can check physical types in general
  1483. [16:00] Ria: Yeah
  1484. [16:01] %KhosroTheGreat: *pokes
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  1486. [16:01] Reapehify: Heatran would be a problem for us.
  1487. [16:01] CantGreggMe: mega-venu is a problem
  1488. [16:01] CantGreggMe: but i prob wouldnt see one of those
  1489. [16:01] +Deck Knight: Heatran is also a solid check. It already has a good AV set, so no sense trying to beat it I don't thing.
  1490. [16:01] +Deck Knight: *think
  1491. [16:01] Animaignis: raikou would be really good in CAP if not for Colo :I
  1492. [16:02] CantGreggMe: im actually using specs raikou
  1493. [16:02] #HeaLnDeaL: yeah, heatran, navi, scizor all seem like exellent checks/maybe counters
  1494. [16:02] Animaignis: ye
  1495. [16:02] Reapehify: Oddly Pyroar would be great against us.
  1496. [16:02] %KhosroTheGreat: we could give it a weak knock off to annoy tran
  1497. [16:02] Animaignis: tu
  1498. [16:02] +Da Pizza Man: somebody will need to take over the chat log for me
  1499. [16:02] Animaignis: tru*
  1500. [16:02] Jack Ferry: hahahaha pyroar
  1501. [16:02] +Da Pizza Man: because i need to go soon
  1502. [16:02] #HeaLnDeaL: pyroar is mostly physically def, so a strong shadowball can still hurt it
  1503. [16:02] Reapehify: Where are you at, Pizza man?
  1504. [16:02] Jack Ferry: heal
  1505. [16:02] %KhosroTheGreat: *pyroak
  1506. [16:02] +Deck Knight: Pyroar is immune to Shadow Ball
  1507. [16:02] #HeaLnDeaL: it's k Deck Knight, I've been logging to
  1508. [16:03] DrapionSwing: Yo
  1509. [16:03] #HeaLnDeaL: oh sorry, meant Pyroak
  1510. [16:03] +Da Pizza Man: reap last thing i havenis [16:01] CantGreggMe: but i prob wouldnt see one of those
  1511. [16:03] Jack Ferry: silly heal
  1512. [16:03] Reapehify: Yeah, Pyroar is immune to to Shadow ball and resists fairy type.
  1513. [16:03] Reapehify: Okay.
  1514. [16:03] #HeaLnDeaL: pyroar is strash, don't worry about it
  1515. [16:03] #HeaLnDeaL: *trash
  1516. [16:03] Jack Ferry: if this mon existed pyroar would become more used
  1517. [16:04] #HeaLnDeaL: not really
  1518. [16:04] Jack Ferry: w can run magmar and meowth in cap
  1519. [16:04] Animaignis: lol
  1520. [16:04] CantGreggMe: l0l
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  1522. [16:04] Jack Ferry: I don't exclude anything anymore
  1523. [16:04] Jack Ferry: i main ninjask
  1524. [16:04] #HeaLnDeaL: so, KhosroTheGreat, we good here?
  1525. [16:04] Reapehify: I have up to 16:00:39, now, Da Pizza Man.
  1526. [16:05] %KhosroTheGreat: Kitsunoh's STABs also beat us
  1527. [16:05] Reapehify: Yes.
  1528. [16:05] %KhosroTheGreat: but it's weak to S-ball
  1529. [16:05] Jack Ferry: unless we happen to outspeed
  1530. [16:05] Reapehify: It depends on speed.
  1531. [16:05] Animaignis: ye
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  1533. [16:05] Jack Ferry: also if we do go wisp
  1534. [16:05] Jack Ferry: kit wont be as bad
  1535. [16:05] +Da Pizza Man: Kitsunoh
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  1537. [16:05] %KhosroTheGreat: revenankh after a boost or two may trouble us too
  1538. [16:05] FullMetalDragon276: nickname for tomohawk?
  1539. [16:06] %KhosroTheGreat: temehawk, altair, meta part 1
  1540. [16:06] Animaignis: meta part 1 is best one
  1541. [16:06] Jack Ferry: imo name it s-rank
  1542. [16:06] Candle Jerk: Eddie Murphy
  1543. [16:06] %KhosroTheGreat: Ferro too
  1544. [16:07] CantGreggMe: wonder what we will call this thing
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  1546. [16:07] %KhosroTheGreat: OK, onto the next part
  1547. [16:07] %KhosroTheGreat: Ability 1 iirc
  1548. [16:07] +Da Pizza Man: primary ability
  1549. [16:07] #HeaLnDeaL: post the checks and counters into a pastebin pls
  1550. [16:07] %KhosroTheGreat: on it
  1551. [16:07] #HeaLnDeaL: thanks
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  1553. [16:08] FullMetalDragon276: I prefer protect over fake out for colossoil
  1554. [16:08] Reapehify: So it's a bunch of Steel/Ghost types then, essentially?
  1555. [16:08] #HeaLnDeaL: k, primary abilities... we mentioned magic bounce before, so let's start talking
  1556. [16:09] Animaignis: I vote no blatantly great ability like Magic Guard/Bounce
  1557. [16:09] Candle Jerk: Prankster?
  1558. [16:09] #HeaLnDeaL: magic guard isn't blatantly great
  1559. [16:09] %KhosroTheGreat: http://pastebin.com/2q6Bkh47
  1560. [16:09] %KhosroTheGreat: Did I miss anything?
  1561. [16:09] #HeaLnDeaL: and I think it's hard to deny the magic bounce messes with tomo
  1562. [16:09] Ria: eh, I really don't know about Prankster
  1563. [16:09] Reapehify: Magic Guard would help us wall Chansey.
  1564. [16:09] #HeaLnDeaL: nope, missed nothing
  1565. [16:10] Animaignis: What about Adaptability?
  1566. [16:10] CantGreggMe: magic guard would be perfect tbh
  1567. [16:10] Animaignis: take advantage of great STAB combo
  1568. [16:10] #HeaLnDeaL: adaptability could help a lot tbh
  1569. [16:10] CantGreggMe: no toxic from tomo
  1570. [16:10] CantGreggMe: or willow from sableye
  1571. [16:10] Animaignis: or Immunity
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  1573. [16:10] Candle Jerk: Well if it's made faster then Tomo, then you can taunt any of it's decent support moves
  1574. [16:10] #HeaLnDeaL: immunity sounds really weak for an ability
  1575. [16:10] %KhosroTheGreat: can we have list of banned ablities?
  1576. [16:11] #HeaLnDeaL: but tomo can taunt our taunt
  1577. [16:11] Candle Jerk: not if it's faster
  1578. [16:11] Reapehify: Does Clear Body prevent stat reductions from Haze?
  1579. [16:11] +Deck Knight: Oblivious prevents Taunt from taking effect.
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  1581. [16:11] #HeaLnDeaL: banned abilities are legendary exclusive abilities + shadow tag
  1582. [16:11] Candle Jerk: plus defeatist and traunt
  1583. [16:11] #HeaLnDeaL: and huge power
  1584. [16:11] #HeaLnDeaL: and fur coat
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  1586. [16:12] Animaignis: Bulletproof?
  1587. [16:12] #HeaLnDeaL: not banned
  1588. [16:12] %KhosroTheGreat: Magic Bounce, Magic Guard, Regen, Aroma Veil were suggested previously
  1589. [16:12] Animaignis: It protects against Shadow Ball, and Aura Sphere i think
  1590. [16:12] #HeaLnDeaL: we're immune to sphere
  1591. [16:12] Animaignis: Or Anayltic to take advantage of Prankster
  1592. [16:12] Ria: Ah, I like Aroma Veil
  1593. [16:12] Animaignis: ah yea
  1594. [16:12] %KhosroTheGreat: protecting a ghost type from shadow ball is slightly broken
  1595. [16:12] %KhosroTheGreat: or could be broken
  1596. [16:12] Animaignis: true
  1597. [16:12] Reapehify: It's kind of hilarious.
  1598. [16:12] Animaignis: Maybe Adabtability tho
  1599. [16:13] #HeaLnDeaL: aroma veil's main use is stopping taunt... but idk... we can beat tomo without stopping taunt, too
  1600. [16:13] Animaignis: What about Guts to discourage status?
  1601. [16:13] #HeaLnDeaL: if we're likely special, guts doesn't help. not saying we are special, but...
  1602. [16:14] Animaignis: ooo how about Marvel Scale?
  1603. [16:14] Ria: eh
  1604. • Marvel ScaleIf this Pokemon is statused, its Defense is 1.5x.
  1605. •
  1606. [16:14] Animaignis: discourages status, boosts Special Defense
  1607. [16:14] Candle Jerk: I think it's important to stop moves like Roost, Haze, Healing Wish, Memento, etc.
  1608. [16:14] #HeaLnDeaL: boosts def, not sp def
  1609. [16:14] %KhosroTheGreat: boosts phys def
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  1611. [16:14] Ria: I like the ability, but that won't stop really stop Tomo from doing Tomo things
  1612. [16:14] +Da Pizza Man: how can we do that with ability though
  1613. [16:14] #HeaLnDeaL: clear body stoped haze
  1614. [16:14] #HeaLnDeaL: *stops
  1615. [16:14] #HeaLnDeaL: or not
  1616. [16:15] +Deck Knight: If we're doing anti-status go with Poison Heal. Tomo's only status is Toxic, which it rarely uses, but it does show up on stall teams and PH ruins that.
  1617. [16:15] #HeaLnDeaL: I can't remember... haze is a weird move
  1618. [16:15] %KhosroTheGreat: it doesn't heal
  1619. [16:15] %KhosroTheGreat: iirc
  1620. [16:15] Animaignis: I think no on Poison Heal. idk
  1621. [16:15] +Deck Knight: PH also means Chansey can Thunder Wave I guess and nothing else.
  1622. [16:15] sooperpotatoe: Are we working on a new mon or wrapping up crucibelle?
  1623. [16:15] #HeaLnDeaL: making a flash cap
  1624. [16:15] %KhosroTheGreat: it's a flashcap
  1625. [16:15] #HeaLnDeaL: unofficial mon
  1626. [16:16] sooperpotatoe: gotcha
  1627. [16:16] Reapehify: Hustle and Justified are possible ideas for balanced boosted attack.
  1628. [16:16] #HeaLnDeaL: I kinda like Poison Heal, but it is quite good
  1629. [16:16] Animaignis: lol I just realized Serence Grace would be really cool
  1630. [16:16] Animaignis: 60% chance of lowered SpA moonplast
  1631. [16:16] Animaignis: 40% chance lowered SpD Shadow Ball
  1632. [16:16] +Deck Knight: Tomo wouldn't like that very much
  1633. [16:16] Animaignis: exactly
  1634. [16:16] #HeaLnDeaL: pixelate + hyper voice or something breaks tomo's sub
  1635. [16:16] +Deck Knight: Hyper Voice bypasses Sub already
  1636. [16:17] +Da Pizza Man: if we want to do that
  1637. [16:17] Animaignis: And metagross wouldn't appreciate having its SpD lowered on a switch
  1638. [16:17] %KhosroTheGreat: tbh moonblast with or without serene grace
  1639. [16:17] +Da Pizza Man: We could do infiltrator too
  1640. [16:17] #HeaLnDeaL: but hyper voice is normal and tomo doesn't care
  1641. [16:17] Animaignis: Or on the other side, Sheer Force
  1642. [16:17] +Deck Knight: You suggested Pixilate HV
  1643. [16:17] Animaignis: ^
  1644. [16:17] #HeaLnDeaL: well pixelate is what makes tomo care
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  1646. [16:18] Animaignis: ehh im iffy on Pixilate
  1647. [16:18] #HeaLnDeaL: just throwing things around
  1648. [16:18] %KhosroTheGreat: oblivious also means we can't be confus haxed
  1649. [16:18] %KhosroTheGreat: by hurricane
  1650. [16:18] Reapehify: Sounds like we pretty much have agreed on special stats.
  1651. • ObliviousThis Pokemon cannot be infatuated or taunted. Gaining this Ability cures it.
  1652. •
  1653. [16:18] +Da Pizza Man: oblivous doesn't block confuse
  1654. [16:18] Reapehify: At least offensively.
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  1656. [16:18] CantGreggMe: how about synchronize
  1657. [16:18] +Da Pizza Man: only infatuation and taunt
  1658. [16:19] Reapehify: Own Tempo does.
  1659. [16:19] %KhosroTheGreat: oh
  1660. [16:19] Ria: ooh
  1661. [16:19] Animaignis: i still think Sheer Force or Serence Grace might be neat
  1662. [16:19] %KhosroTheGreat: derped while looking at numel
  1663. [16:19] Ria: Synchronize seems pretty cool
  1664. [16:19] Reapehify: Serene Grace would be cool.
  1665. [16:19] Animaignis: why do we need Confuse block?
  1666. [16:19] #HeaLnDeaL: atm I'm leaning towards adaptability.
  1667. [16:19] +Deck Knight: Synchronize is terrible.
  1668. [16:19] %KhosroTheGreat: why do we need adap?
  1669. [16:19] Animaignis: Great STAB combo
  1670. [16:19] Animaignis: lemme se something real quick
  1671. [16:19] #HeaLnDeaL: helps us beat up gross in particular
  1672. [16:19] Animaignis: brb
  1673. [16:19] +Deck Knight: Our goal is beat T-Hawk, not become Akuma.
  1674. [16:20] %KhosroTheGreat: akuma?
  1675. [16:20] +Da Pizza Man: akuma
  1676. [16:20] +Da Pizza Man: from street fighter
  1677. [16:20] Jack Ferry: <# hitmonlee
  1678. [16:20] Jack Ferry: ~<3
  1679. [16:20] Ria: lol
  1680. [16:20] +Deck Knight: All Mah References.
  1681. [16:20] #HeaLnDeaL: poison heal is cool, but we have to compensate a lot
  1682. [16:21] #HeaLnDeaL: makes chansey useless too
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  1684. [16:21] Reapehify: Yeah.
  1685. [16:21] +Deck Knight: Death to the blobs!
  1686. [16:21] +Da Pizza Man: i have a weird idea
  1687. • Aroma VeilProtects user/allies from Attract, Disable, Encore, Heal Block, Taunt, and Torment.
  1688. •
  1689. [16:21] +Da Pizza Man: prankster
  1690. [16:21] Animaignis: Shadow Ball still doesnt dent much :I
  1691. [16:21] Ria: What about... Download?
  1692. [16:21] Animaignis: no Prankster imo
  1693. [16:21] +Da Pizza Man: yeah
  1694. [16:21] Animaignis: Download would be entertaining :P
  1695. [16:21] #HeaLnDeaL: gale wings imo
  1696. [16:21] Animaignis: XD
  1697. [16:21] +Da Pizza Man: gale wings -_-
  1698. [16:21] Animaignis: Aerilate if real o3o
  1699. [16:21] Reapehify: Lol.
  1700. [16:22] +Da Pizza Man: we aren't part flying
  1701. [16:22] +Deck Knight: Hrrrm
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  1703. [16:22] Animaignis: we shud have Aerilate :P
  1704. [16:22] +Deck Knight: Let's give it Drought. It makes Hurricane have 50% Acc.
  1705. [16:22] +Da Pizza Man: i was thinking that
  1706. [16:22] #HeaLnDeaL: !dt hurricane
  1707. • Hurricane Power
  1708. 110Accuracy
  1709. 70%PP
  1710. 1630% chance to confuse target. Can't miss in rain.
  1711. •
  1712. Priority |  Gen: 5 |  ✓ Secondary effect |  Target: Any Pokémon
  1713. [16:22] Animaignis: >.>
  1714. [16:22] +Da Pizza Man: but then i said nah
  1715. [16:22] CantGreggMe: if real we get rattled
  1716. [16:22] %KhosroTheGreat: back
  1717. [16:23] Reapehify: I like Serene Grace as our primary ability.
  1718. [16:23] %KhosroTheGreat: what does serene grace give us on tomo?
  1719. [16:23] Reapehify: It boosts our offensive and helps any utility.
  1720. [16:23] #HeaLnDeaL: are you sure drought lowers cane's acc?
  1721. [16:23] sooperpotatoe: What's our typing?
  1722. [16:23] Animaignis: 60% spA lowering
  1723. [16:23] Animaignis: fairy.ghost
  1724. [16:23] #HeaLnDeaL: nvm it does
  1725. [16:23] %KhosroTheGreat: it does, heal
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  1727. [16:23] Rebel Pawniards: oo cap
  1728. [16:23] Animaignis: Sheer Force would be nice, depending on our coverage
  1729. [16:23] Rebel Pawniards: hello
  1730. [16:23] Reapehify: The 60/40% lowering of our stab.
  1731. [16:24] Animaignis: ^
  1732. [16:24] %KhosroTheGreat: sheer force could be an interesting and weaker alternative to adap
  1733. [16:24] Animaignis: But Sheer Force seems pretty outclassed by Adap ye
  1734. [16:24] %KhosroTheGreat: that may be a good thing
  1735. [16:24] Animaignis: maybe
  1736. [16:24] +Da Pizza Man: anaylatic!
  1737. [16:24] #HeaLnDeaL: does serene grace help us beat tomo though? or its partners?
  1738. [16:25] Animaignis: to some extent
  1739. [16:25] Reapehify: I would say there is a 60/40% chance it does.
  1740. [16:25] Reapehify: :^)
  1741. [16:25] +Da Pizza Man: then again that also discourages priority from scisor
  1742. [16:25] +Deck Knight: What about Technician so we can use Draining Kiss?
  1743. [16:25] +Da Pizza Man: scizor
  1744. [16:25] +Da Pizza Man: so not sure
  1745. [16:25] #HeaLnDeaL: !dt draining kiss
  1746. • Draining Kiss Power
  1747. 50Accuracy
  1748. 100%PP
  1749. 16User recovers 75% of the damage dealt.
  1750. •
  1751. Priority |  Gen: 6 |  ✓ Contact |  Target: One Adjacent Pokémon
  1752. [16:25] Animaignis: that could be neat, but idk
  1753. [16:25] #HeaLnDeaL: 50, hmm
  1754. [16:25] +Deck Knight: (And also Tech HP Fiah)
  1755. [16:25] Reapehify: I also sort of like Analytic but we still need speed.
  1756. [16:25] Animaignis: kinda cool
  1757. [16:25] +Da Pizza Man: draining kiss is contact
  1758. [16:25] +Da Pizza Man: so rocky helmet triggers
  1759. [16:25] Animaignis: o nvrmind
  1760. [16:25] Animaignis: bad
  1761. [16:25] Reapehify: That would make Analytic only really kick in on prankster or switch use.
  1762. [16:25] #HeaLnDeaL: but it heals more than helmet does
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  1764. [16:26] Animaignis: eh
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  1766. [16:26] %KhosroTheGreat: HP fire may allow us to beat steels we don't want to
  1767. [16:26] #HeaLnDeaL: blah
  1768. [16:26] CantGreggMe: Depending on scenerios, Rattled would be good for speed
  1769. [16:26] #HeaLnDeaL: I hate to say it but I like Poison Heal
  1770. [16:26] +Da Pizza Man: Khosro hp is automatically allowed and required
  1771. [16:26] Animaignis: but we would probably die to ghost moves anyways
  1772. [16:26] Animaignis: nuuuuuu not Poison Heal
  1773. [16:26] %KhosroTheGreat: I meant with tech boost
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  1775. [16:27] +Da Pizza Man: oh
  1776. [16:27] #HeaLnDeaL: he meant tech hp fire stong
  1777. [16:27] #HeaLnDeaL: rip slow
  1778. [16:27] Animaignis: yea Tech boost might be rough
  1779. [16:27] Reapehify: So is a slate ready to be set?
  1780. [16:27] Animaignis: ^
  1781. [16:27] #HeaLnDeaL: idk, is there a slate yet?
  1782. [16:27] +Deck Knight: Tech also gives us awesome physical Ghost STAB Shadow Paunch >_>
  1783. [16:27] %KhosroTheGreat: there's so many options
  1784. [16:27] #HeaLnDeaL: I'm so undecided
  1785. • Shadow Punch Power
  1786. 60Accuracy
  1787. —PP
  1788. 32This move does not check accuracy.
  1789. •
  1790. Priority |  Gen: 3 |  ✓ Contact |  ✓ Punch |  Target: One Adjacent Pokémon
  1791. [16:27] Animaignis: why dont we do a semipoll to narrow it down?
  1792. [16:27] Reapehify: We've got Serene Grace, Analytic, Poison Heal, Magic Bounce...any other big ones?
  1793. [16:27] Animaignis: rofl Deck
  1794. [16:28] Animaignis: Sheer Force
  1795. [16:28] Reapehify: Yeah, Sheer Force.
  1796. [16:28] #HeaLnDeaL: adaptability
  1797. [16:28] %KhosroTheGreat: Infiltrator, Adap, Sheer Force,
  1798. [16:28] Animaignis: ah yea those too
  1799. [16:28] Reapehify: Seems like we do have a slate. :)
  1800. [16:28] Animaignis: Infiltrator and Adap
  1801. [16:28] sooperpotatoe: If you're looking for a bit of bulk without being broken, Regenerator?
  1802. [16:28] CantGreggMe: magic guard
  1803. [16:28] Animaignis: And pixilate
  1804. [16:28] +Deck Knight: Don't like SF. Hald the reason to use Fairy moves is secondary effects.
  1805. [16:28] #HeaLnDeaL: can we just take a minute and idk... step back and look at other options
  1806. [16:28] Animaignis: nd Regenerator
  1807. [16:28] %KhosroTheGreat: regen neutralises sr
  1808. [16:28] Reapehify: Like what, HeaL?
  1809. [16:29] +Deck Knight: Lets look at this from the vantage point of what each ability does for our goals.
  1810. [16:29] #HeaLnDeaL: ye wut deck said
  1811. [16:29] +Deck Knight: SG gives us a lot more Moonblast SpA drops, which weakens (but doesn't stop) checks and neutralizes Tomohawk.
  1812. [16:29] Reapehify: Analytic, Sheer Force, Adaptibility all give us stronger stabs in different circumstances.
  1813. [16:29] +Deck Knight: Poison Heal takes a lot of Stall-oriented threats like Chansey (a tomo partner) off the table.
  1814. [16:29] #HeaLnDeaL: ugh my net is crapping out agai
  1815. [16:30] Animaignis: is pixilate out?
  1816. [16:30] Animaignis: RIP HeaL's internet
  1817. [16:30] %KhosroTheGreat: pixilate and infiltrator allow us to beat the relatively rare sub tomo
  1818. [16:30] +Deck Knight: Pixilate seems much better for physical mons than special ones.
  1819. [16:30] Animaignis: yeah
  1820. [16:30] Reapehify: But Poison Heal can be compensated for as a secondary ability in other ways. And is also is challenged ability-wise by Magic Guard.
  1821. [16:30] Animaignis: Regenerator i vote no.
  1822. [16:30] Reapehify: So do I.
  1823. [16:30] sooperpotatoe: Magic bounce also helps against stall threats
  1824. [16:30] #HeaLnDeaL: poison heal is better than magic guard...
  1825. [16:31] %KhosroTheGreat: that's not necessarily a reason to not put it on this mon tho, Deck Knight
  1826. [16:31] +Deck Knight: MB + Ghost typing is literal hell for Tomohawk.
  1827. [16:31] +Deck Knight: Can't Spin, can't setup, all it can do is Roost or switch.
  1828. [16:31] #HeaLnDeaL: or hurricane
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  1830. [16:31] %KhosroTheGreat: assuming we can take attacks
  1831. [16:31] +Deck Knight: Also that, yes.
  1832. [16:31] %KhosroTheGreat: which we should
  1833. [16:31] Animaignis: imma post pastebin of main abilities being discussed
  1834. [16:31] +Da Pizza Man: so slate?
  1835. [16:31] Animaignis: http://pastebin.com/hcYg9ZYr
  1836. [16:31] +Deck Knight: I would presume since we exist to eat Tomohawk's apple, sandwich, and brownie, that his windstorms will not bother us.
  1837. [16:32] Animaignis: so that is options for slate, i think, unless i forgot some
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  1839. [16:32] #HeaLnDeaL: ugh f my net, won't let me load any links
  1840. [16:32] Animaignis: i call the brownie
  1841. [16:32] Animaignis: i call the brownie
  1842. [16:32] Animaignis: But Tomo can't do much to Fairy/Ghost anyways even without Magic Bounce
  1843. [16:32] #HeaLnDeaL: brb resetting my net
  1844. [16:32] Animaignis: ToxicHawk isnt run much
  1845. [16:33] Animaignis: gday gday
  1846. [16:33] @gday: it can still get rocks up
  1847. [16:33] @gday: gday
  1848. [16:33] Reapehify: gday
  1849. [16:33] @gday: gday
  1850. [16:33] Reapehify: It can get rocks up but takes a nasty hit in return.
  1851. [16:33] @gday: well i mean on the switch
  1852. [16:33] Animaignis: And it can whip us with a mean LO Hurricane on the switch .-.
  1853. [16:33] %KhosroTheGreat: it's really easy to bring tomo in too
  1854. [16:34] @gday: this thing needs to have a lot of special bulk
  1855. [16:34] @gday: ofc
  1856. [16:34] %KhosroTheGreat: We're assuming we can bulk LO Hurricane
  1857. [16:34] %KhosroTheGreat: oh wait
  1858. [16:34] Reapehify: We should be able to take 1 hit.
  1859. [16:34] Animaignis: yea
  1860. [16:34] %KhosroTheGreat: regenvest could be a thing
  1861. [16:34] Animaignis: 2 imo if possible
  1862. [16:34] %KhosroTheGreat: if we run regen
  1863. [16:34] Animaignis: Regenerator could be neat
  1864. [16:34] Reapehify: I'm not a fan of passive healing.
  1865. [16:35] +Deck Knight: AV does help with that, yes. A Strong stat and AV would be a realistic set.
  1866. [16:35] Animaignis: so poll?
  1867. [16:35] %KhosroTheGreat: I have a slate, mostly thanks to ani
  1868. [16:35] #HeaLnDeaL: eh wait a bit
  1869. [16:35] %KhosroTheGreat: but do we want to discuss anything else?
  1870. [16:35] sooperpotatoe: What's a slate? (Is it obvious I'm new here XD)
  1871. [16:35] %KhosroTheGreat: ninja'd
  1872. [16:35] %KhosroTheGreat: it's a list of stuff to vote on sooperpotatoe
  1873. [16:35] Reapehify: A slate is a list of choices to vote on, sooperpotatoe.
  1874. [16:35] Animaignis: ^
  1875. [16:35] sooperpotatoe: Ahh, cool
  1876. [16:36] sooperpotatoe: Thanks
  1877. [16:36] Reapehify: What are we waiting for?
  1878. [16:36] %KhosroTheGreat: for more thoughts on ability
  1879. [16:36] %KhosroTheGreat: since its so pivotal
  1880. [16:36] Reapehify: I think it would be better to have more discussion after an initial poll.
  1881. [16:37] Reapehify: And then after that discussion vote again?
  1882. [16:37] Reapehify: That way it creates a sense of progress.
  1883. [16:37] %KhosroTheGreat: usually polls only happen after discussion
  1884. [16:37] Candle Jerk: poll to see the top 3 and discuss from there?
  1885. [16:37] Animaignis: ^
  1886. [16:37] Animaignis: i like that idea
  1887. [16:37] Animaignis: we need to narrow it down at least a bit
  1888. [16:37] Reapehify: That seems like the best way to go. We can discuss all we want but we should poll and then after getting a consensus, discuss from there.
  1889. [16:37] Reapehify: Yeah, we need to narrow it down.
  1890. [16:37] %KhosroTheGreat: We could discuss some other options
  1891. [16:38] Animaignis: Great idea: It shud have Illuminate :P
  1892. [16:38] Reapehify: I think we've come to our conclusion, though.
  1893. [16:38] sooperpotatoe: Or, we could do the opposite
  1894. [16:38] sooperpotatoe: and poll what we should get rid of
  1895. [16:38] %KhosroTheGreat: but if you guys want a poll now, I'll put one up in 1 min
  1896. [16:38] #HeaLnDeaL: what about wonder skin? idk
  1897. [16:38] Reapehify: Okay.
  1898. [16:38] Reapehify: I was looking at Wonder Skin Heal, but it's so gimmicky.
  1899. [16:38] #HeaLnDeaL: sorry random
  1900. [16:38] Reapehify: Would make a better flavour ability.
  1901. [16:38] #HeaLnDeaL: !dt taunt
  1902. • Taunt Accuracy
  1903. 100%PP
  1904. 32For 3 turns, the target can't use status moves.
  1905. •
  1906. Priority |  Gen: 3 |  ✓ Bypasses Substitutes |  ✓ Bounceable |  Target: One Adjacent Pokémon
  1907. [16:38] Animaignis: Wonder Skin could be neat
  1908. We dont Tect those left
  1909. [16:38] Animaignis: rofl 50% accuracy Taunt
  1910. [16:39] Animaignis: i want to see an official CAP with that lol
  1911. [16:39] #HeaLnDeaL: gimmicky, eh, doesn't seem primary ability material
  1912. [16:39] #HeaLnDeaL: maybe secondary... but idk
  1913. [16:39] Reapehify: Yeah.
  1914. [16:39] +Deck Knight: Indeed it is not
  1915. [16:39] Reapehify: That's what I was thinking.
  1916. [16:39] #HeaLnDeaL: aight, I'm ready for poll 1 when you kids are
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  1918. [16:39] Reapehify: I'm all on board for Wonder Skin as secondary.
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  1920. [16:39] %KhosroTheGreat: need to shave one off this http://pastebin.com/0YUbJGKL
  1921. [16:39] Animaignis: im good with poll
  1922. [16:39] Reapehify: I also like the idea of Justified/Immunity.
  1923. [16:40] Reapehify: Get rid of Oblivious.
  1924. [16:40] Animaignis: Magic Guard/Bounce > Immunity
  1925. [16:40] #HeaLnDeaL: it should be aroma veil, not oblivious, koso
  1926. [16:40] Animaignis: Yea i vote cut oblivious
  1927. [16:40] Animaignis: or aroma veil
  1928. [16:40] Animaignis: whatever it is
  1929. [16:40] Reapehify: Yes Animaignis, but Immunity would be a secondary ability if those don't get selected.
  1930. [16:40] #HeaLnDeaL: I'd say add aroma veil, cut sheer force
  1931. [16:40] Animaignis: true.
  1932. [16:41] %KhosroTheGreat: do we need adap to beat stuff?
  1933. [16:41] Animaignis: I vote cut Sheer Force, Aroma Veil, Oblivious
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  1935. [16:41] %KhosroTheGreat: does LO sheer force not work?
  1936. [16:41] Animaignis: Adap might be cool tho
  1937. [16:41] sooperpotatoe: I don't see infiltrator being all that useful tbh, that's my cut-vote
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  1939. [16:41] #HeaLnDeaL: !dt aroma veil
  1940. • Aroma VeilProtects user/allies from Attract, Disable, Encore, Heal Block, Taunt, and Torment.
  1941. •
  1942. [16:41] Reapehify: I'd get rid of adaptability as opposed to sheer force.
  1943. [16:41] Animaignis: that actually might be better now that i think about it
  1944. [16:41] Reapehify: And keep aroma veil.
  1945. [16:41] %KhosroTheGreat: attract tomo is on ladder, but probably shouldn't be in our thoughts
  1946. [16:41] Animaignis: ^
  1947. [16:41] +Deck Knight: I generally oppose "makes this stronger" abilities unless there's an explicit purpose to them.
  1948. [16:42] Done with MONOTYPE: is it still the flashcap? e.e
  1949. [16:42] Animaignis: yus
  1950. [16:42] #HeaLnDeaL: ye
  1951. [16:42] +Deck Knight: Tomohawk just isn't that specially bulky.
  1952. [16:42] Done with MONOTYPE: wooow
  1953. [16:42] %KhosroTheGreat: I also missed out pixilate
  1954. [16:42] +Deck Knight: It never runs AV because half its appeal is status moves.
  1955. [16:42] %KhosroTheGreat: One would assume it's for AV Colo
  1956. [16:42] %KhosroTheGreat: and Bulky M-Meta
  1957. [16:42] Reapehify: So run two polls Khosro and the top two of each is our last poll after discussion?
  1958. [16:42] #HeaLnDeaL: ye I like adaptability for av colo
  1959. [16:42] +Deck Knight: I suppose
  1960. [16:43] +Deck Knight: There is no kill like Overkill.
  1961. [16:43] #HeaLnDeaL: k, no one like infiltrator, cut that
  1962. [16:43] Animaignis: exactly :P
  1963. [16:43] Animaignis: @ Deck
  1964. [16:43] Reapehify: Yeah, you can get rid of infiltrator.
  1965. [16:43] #HeaLnDeaL: we need one poll
  1966. [16:43] Reapehify: Fair enough.
  1967. [16:43] %KhosroTheGreat: I was going to do polls for sheer force vs adap and infiltrator vs pixilate
  1968. [16:43] Animaignis: i like sound of that
  1969. [16:43] %KhosroTheGreat: then have the poll for moves
  1970. [16:43] sooperpotatoe: ^That's an idea
  1971. [16:43] Reapehify: Do sheer force/adap poll and cut infiltrator.
  1972. [16:43] %KhosroTheGreat: *quick polls
  1973. [16:44] #HeaLnDeaL: wut reap said
  1974. [16:44] %KhosroTheGreat: k
  1975. [16:44] Animaignis: same
  1976. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  1977. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  1978. [16:44] %KhosroTheGreat: oh wow
  1979. [16:44] Candle Jerk: niether
  1980. [16:44] %KhosroTheGreat: sheer force really going for it
  1981. [16:44] #HeaLnDeaL: sheer force removes our sexy 30% sp atk lower
  1982. [16:45] %KhosroTheGreat: that is true
  1983. [16:45] sooperpotatoe: but also adds life orb power
  1984. [16:45] sooperpotatoe: if desired
  1985. [16:45] #HeaLnDeaL: too stronk
  1986. [16:45] +Deck Knight: BRB arguing for SF Famethrower
  1987. [16:45] Animaignis: wait can i change vote?
  1988. [16:45] #HeaLnDeaL: rof
  1989. [16:45] %KhosroTheGreat: oh adap pulling into lead
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  1991. [16:46] %KhosroTheGreat: Should I end poll?
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  1993. [16:46] %KhosroTheGreat: since it's a mini one
  1994. [16:46] #HeaLnDeaL: your call
  1995. [16:46] +Da Pizza Man: go ahead
  1996. [16:46] sooperpotatoe: seems over lol
  1997. [16:46] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  1998. [16:46] +Deck Knight: It's OVAH!
  1999. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2000. Poll ended Which one is best for our FlashCAP?
  2001. 1. Sheer Force (5 votes)
  2002. 42%
  2003. 2. Adaptability (7 votes)
  2004. 58%
  2005. [16:46] +Da Pizza Man: alright
  2006. [16:46] Mcguffin: hi cap. The art room said you guys were looking for some concept art for a defensive ghost fairy. Here's a rough sketch: http://imgur.com/4RQC1pe
  2007. [16:46] +Da Pizza Man: so adaptability is our winner
  2008. [16:46] Animaignis: neat
  2009. [16:46] +Da Pizza Man: e
  2010. [16:46] +Deck Knight: NEAT
  2011. [16:47] +Da Pizza Man: like it
  2012. [16:47] %KhosroTheGreat: Might end up being offensive, Mcguffin, but thank you very much
  2013. [16:47] #HeaLnDeaL: : o cool
  2014. [16:47] +Da Pizza Man: i could see that working as offensive
  2015. [16:47] Reapehify: Why is our mon defensive?
  2016. [16:47] Mcguffin: oh neat. last i heard people were talking about abilities to stop tomohawk
  2017. [16:47] @gday: if it's offensive then will it counter offensive tomo
  2018. [16:47] #HeaLnDeaL: I told art room we'd prolly have enuff bulk to tank mega gross BP
  2019. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  2020. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2021. [16:47] #HeaLnDeaL: i.e. we wouldn't be super frail
  2022. [16:48] Mcguffin: and abilities like magic bounce and aroma veil were mentioned
  2023. [16:48] %KhosroTheGreat: oops
  2024. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2025. Poll ended What should our FlashCAP's Primary Ability be?
  2026. 1. Serene Grace (1 vote)
  2027. 20%
  2028. 2. Adaptability (0 votes)
  2029. 0%
  2030. 3. Analytic (0 votes)
  2031. 0%
  2032. 4. Magic Bounce (1 vote)
  2033. 20%
  2034. 5. Poison Heal (1 vote)
  2035. 20%
  2036. 6. Infiltrator (0 votes)
  2037. 0%
  2038. 7. Regenerator (2 votes)
  2039. 40%
  2040. [16:48] Reapehify: We should definitely be able to take 2 bullet punches.
  2041. [16:48] CantGreggMe: lel
  2042. [16:48] Animaignis: nuuu i missed poll ;-;
  2043. [16:48] +Da Pizza Man: what was wrong with the poll
  2044. [16:48] %KhosroTheGreat: we have an extra slot
  2045. [16:48] Done with MONOTYPE: is mega metagross any good?
  2046. [16:48] Candle Jerk: very
  2047. [16:48] #HeaLnDeaL: yes
  2048. [16:48] Animaignis: very
  2049. [16:48] %KhosroTheGreat: and I cut obliv instead of infil
  2050. [16:49] Done with MONOTYPE: alright finally found a good mega then s.s
  2051. [16:49] Animaignis: It is as close to being an Uber as you can have in OU, Vulpix
  2052. [16:49] Jack Ferry: apparently natu can fite power gem volk
  2053. [16:49] #HeaLnDeaL: eh oh well koso
  2054. [16:49] Jack Ferry: the more you knoe
  2055. [16:49] Jack Ferry: ~know
  2056. [16:49] %KhosroTheGreat: should I add obliv or infil?
  2057. [16:49] #HeaLnDeaL: it's fine
  2058. [16:49] +Da Pizza Man: Your choice
  2059. [16:49] +Da Pizza Man: your tl
  2060. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  2061. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2062. [16:49] #HeaLnDeaL: ugh this poll is crazy tho
  2063. [16:49] %KhosroTheGreat: ikr?
  2064. [16:50] #HeaLnDeaL: oblivious should be aroma veil
  2065. [16:50] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  2066. [16:50] %KhosroTheGreat: probably not worth changing
  2067. [16:50] Animaignis: nuuuuu i misclicked!
  2068. [16:50] %KhosroTheGreat: given how unpopular obliv is and how small the differences are
  2069. [16:50] Animaignis: The page jolted downwards ;-;
  2070. [16:50] %KhosroTheGreat: which one did you want?
  2071. [16:50] Animaignis: is it possible to change vote?
  2072. [16:50] Animaignis: Serence Grace
  2073. [16:50] %KhosroTheGreat: and you clicked adap?
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  2075. [16:50] Animaignis: yes
  2076. [16:51] %KhosroTheGreat: k
  2077. [16:51] #HeaLnDeaL: k, noted
  2078. [16:51] %KhosroTheGreat: where are the votes?
  2079. [16:51] %KhosroTheGreat: 11 people so far
  2080. [16:51] Master Mewking: about time my lock ended
  2081. [16:52] %KhosroTheGreat: hi mewking
  2082. [16:52] %KhosroTheGreat: wb
  2083. [16:52] Done with MONOTYPE: welcome back
  2084. [16:52] Master Mewking: hey guys
  2085. [16:52] Done with MONOTYPE: guess you learned your lesson now :'s
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  2087. [16:52] %KhosroTheGreat: half a min left on poll
  2088. [16:52] Master Mewking: no i know why i got locked this time
  2089. [16:52] Done with MONOTYPE: ~~at least you didn't lose your driver status like me~
  2090. [16:52] #HeaLnDeaL: if we're magic bounce... we'll be kinda similar to mega sab
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  2092. [16:52] %KhosroTheGreat: mewking should vote if he hasn't yet
  2093. [16:52] Done with MONOTYPE: rip no cross out
  2094. [16:52] Done with MONOTYPE: :[
  2095. [16:52] sooperpotatoe: So how often do you guys do flashcaps?
  2096. [16:52] Master Mewking: i just did
  2097. [16:52] #HeaLnDeaL: very rarely
  2098. [16:53] %KhosroTheGreat: except sab doesn't have SE STAB
  2099. [16:53] Master Mewking: i voted serene grace
  2100. [16:53] #HeaLnDeaL: true
  2101. [16:53] %KhosroTheGreat: also we may be offensive
  2102. [16:53] %KhosroTheGreat: OK
  2103. Airwind and sooperpotatoe left
  2104. [16:53] %KhosroTheGreat: poll ending
  2105. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2106. Poll ended What should our FlashCAP's Primary Ability be?
  2107. 1. Serene Grace (2 votes)
  2108. 17%
  2109. 2. Adaptability (2 votes)
  2110. 17%
  2111. 3. Analytic (0 votes)
  2112. 0%
  2113. 4. Magic Bounce (4 votes)
  2114. 33%
  2115. 5. Poison Heal (1 vote)
  2116. 8%
  2117. 6. Oblivious (0 votes)
  2118. 0%
  2119. 7. Regenerator (3 votes)
  2120. 25%
  2121. 8. Sheer Force (0 votes)
  2122. 0%
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  2124. [16:53] SunshineCatt: LOL
  2125. [16:53] %KhosroTheGreat: serene grace, regen and mb to go through
  2126. [16:53] +Da Pizza Man: serene grace, regenerator, and magic bounce
  2127. [16:53] #HeaLnDeaL: so serence grace, magic bounce, regen
  2128. [16:53] Master Mewking: magic bs wins
  2129. [16:53] #HeaLnDeaL: no, time for poll 2
  2130. [16:53] SunshineCatt: I just beat Arkaes
  2131. [16:54] CantGreggMe: tbh only mb and regen
  2132. [16:54] SunshineCatt: my first day with these mons
  2133. [16:54] SunshineCatt: epic
  2134. [16:54] #HeaLnDeaL: no, ssg got an extra vote
  2135. [16:54] Master Mewking: ifone of the options is protean
  2136. [16:54] #HeaLnDeaL: *sg
  2137. [16:54] CantGreggMe: oh
  2138. Poll What should our FlashCAP's Primary Ability be?
  2139. 1. Serene Grace (4 votes)
  2140. 29%
  2141. 2. Magic Bounce (4 votes)
  2142. 29%
  2143. 3. Regenerator (6 votes)
  2144. 43%
  2145. (You can't vote after viewing results)
  2146. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2147. [16:54] #HeaLnDeaL: ugh rip poison heal
  2148. [16:54] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  2149. [16:54] Animaignis: yay no Poison heal
  2150. [16:54] #HeaLnDeaL: crap
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  2152. [16:54] #HeaLnDeaL: the poll moved
  2153. [16:54] Animaignis: rofl
  2154. [16:54] Animaignis: life
  2155. [16:55] +Da Pizza Man: what did you try to vote for
  2156. [16:55] %KhosroTheGreat: even heal gets pagejolted
  2157. [16:55] #HeaLnDeaL: I clicked view results, meant to click magic bounce
  2158. [16:55] Animaignis: XD
  2159. [16:55] +Da Pizza Man: that shouldn't count
  2160. [16:55] +Da Pizza Man: refresh the page
  2161. [16:55] #HeaLnDeaL: k
  2162. [16:55] %KhosroTheGreat: oh wow regen with the victory
  2163. [16:55] FullMetalDragon276: oh no...
  2164. [16:55] Reapehify: That sucks.
  2165. [16:55] %KhosroTheGreat: oh
  2166. [16:55] FullMetalDragon276: will we make a new cap pokemon with it?
  2167. [16:55] #HeaLnDeaL: brb refreshing still need to vote
  2168. [16:55] +Da Pizza Man: heal did it work
  2169. [16:56] Reapehify: It probably wouldn't.
  2170. [16:56] %KhosroTheGreat: this is close
  2171. [16:56] +Da Pizza Man: no this is for fun fullmetal
  2172.  
  2173. Current CAP Buzz: CAP 21 Playtest · CAP 21 3D Models · Change in Direction
  2174.  
  2175. Must be rank autoconfirmed or higher to talk right now.
  2176. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  2177. [16:56] %KhosroTheGreat: I don't think it works
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  2179. [16:56] FullMetalDragon276: ok
  2180. [16:56] Master Mewking: heyjacket
  2181. [16:56] Reapehify: Whenever you choose to view you can't vote.
  2182. [16:56] #HeaLnDeaL: nope it won't let me vote
  2183. [16:56] CantGreggMe: same
  2184. [16:56] #HeaLnDeaL: I voted magic bounce, accidentally clicked view
  2185. [16:56] Reapehify: Redo! :^)
  2186. [16:56] +Da Pizza Man: so add 1 to magic bounce then
  2187. [16:56] %KhosroTheGreat: well regen and mb are tied now
  2188. [16:56] FullMetalDragon276: would have been cool to see a cap pokemon with regenerator
  2189. [16:56] #HeaLnDeaL: final poll between mb and regen?
  2190. [16:56] +Da Pizza Man: full crucibelle
  2191. [16:56] +Deck Knight: Crucibelle >_>
  2192. [16:56] %KhosroTheGreat: k
  2193. [16:56] Candle Jerk: ^
  2194. [16:57] Reapehify: What is your vote Can'tGreggme?
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  2196. [16:57] CantGreggMe: mb
  2197. [16:57] Reapehify: Oh.
  2198. [16:57] Reapehify: Then MB wins.
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  2200. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2201. Poll ended What should our FlashCAP's Primary Ability be?
  2202. 1. Serene Grace (4 votes)
  2203. 27%
  2204. 2. Magic Bounce (5 votes)
  2205. 33%
  2206. 3. Regenerator (6 votes)
  2207. 40%
  2208. [16:57] Animaignis: ;-; RIP serene grace
  2209. [16:57] CantGreggMe: it wouldnt let me click
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  2211. [16:57] +Da Pizza Man: csntgregg couldn't vote
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  2213. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2214. [16:57] Master Mewking: magic bs for da win
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  2216. [16:57] %KhosroTheGreat: there's no harm in having a final vote
  2217. [16:57] #HeaLnDeaL: brb
  2218. [16:57] Reapehify: That's very democratic of you, Khosro.
  2219. [16:57] %KhosroTheGreat: lol thanks
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  2221. [16:58] Reapehify: Phew.
  2222. [16:58] SunshineCatt: the harm is that now i cant make a fun regen core team
  2223. [16:58] Reapehify: I was worried for a second.
  2224. [16:58] SunshineCatt: :(
  2225. [16:58] +Da Pizza Man: if we tie, cap says winner is the winner of the previous poll iirc
  2226. [16:58] Reapehify: We won't tie.
  2227. [16:58] +Da Pizza Man: i know
  2228. [16:58] +Da Pizza Man: just saying
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  2230. [16:58] Reapehify: We...shouldn't tie.
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  2232. [16:59] %KhosroTheGreat: 30 secs on poll
  2233. [16:59] FullMetalDragon276: g'day, gday.
  2234. [16:59] %KhosroTheGreat: last minute regen comeback plz
  2235. [16:59] Master Mewking: g-g-g-g-g-GDAY mate
  2236. [16:59] %KhosroTheGreat: welp
  2237. [16:59] FullMetalDragon276: hello, MM.
  2238. [16:59] Animaignis: if we say gday to gday, should we Heal HeaL? :P
  2239. [16:59] %KhosroTheGreat: poll ending
  2240. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2241. Poll ended What should our FlashCAP's Primary Ability be?
  2242. 1. Magic Bounce (10 votes)
  2243. 56%
  2244. 2. Regenerator (8 votes)
  2245. 44%
  2246. [16:59] +Da Pizza Man: And magic bounce wins
  2247. [16:59] Animaignis: seems legit
  2248. [16:59] Master Mewking: magic bs wins
  2249. [16:59] %KhosroTheGreat: Our Primary Ability is Magic Bounce.
  2250. [17:00] CantGreggMe: i like to magic bounce it!
  2251. [17:00] +Da Pizza Man: next is stats
  2252. [17:00] CantGreggMe: idk about stats
  2253. [17:00] %KhosroTheGreat: Ooh, that's interesting
  2254. [17:00] %KhosroTheGreat: do we have stat limits?
  2255. [17:00] +Da Pizza Man: not sure
  2256. [17:00] +Da Pizza Man: heal
  2257. [17:00] %KhosroTheGreat: heal come back to us
  2258. [17:00] Master Mewking: if so the max would be 255
  2259. [17:00] Animaignis: RIP HeaL
  2260. [17:00] %KhosroTheGreat: tbh
  2261. [17:00] Done with MONOTYPE: hey khosro can you get on the ladder I need a challenge e.e
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  2263. [17:00] #HeaLnDeaL: here
  2264. [17:00] %KhosroTheGreat: I think post your subs
  2265. [17:01] +Da Pizza Man: heal are we doing stat limits
  2266. [17:01] CantGreggMe: BST should be like 460-500 range
  2267. [17:01] %KhosroTheGreat: and I'll just take out the broken ones
  2268. [17:01] #HeaLnDeaL: no stat limits
  2269. [17:01] +Da Pizza Man: okay
  2270. [17:01] Master Mewking: okay give it 255 in all stats
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  2272. [17:01] Reapehify: So we can submit our ideal stats?
  2273. [17:01] FullMetalDragon276: A ghost/fairy type pokemon would have a mischievous personality, but that pesonality was taken by Hoopa.
  2274. [17:02] +Da Pizza Man: so what are we generally going to base off for stats?
  2275. [17:02] FullMetalDragon276: would have been cool if it was real.
  2276. [17:02] CantGreggMe: maybe SPA and SPD
  2277. [17:02] FullMetalDragon276: maybe having a defensive ghost/fairy.
  2278. [17:02] #HeaLnDeaL: losing to our checks/counters, beating tomo and allies
  2279. [17:02] Reapehify: Probably what we need to tank to be viable to counter Tomohawk+counters.
  2280. [17:02] Reapehify: Yeah.
  2281. [17:02] +Da Pizza Man: i would say obviously a special attacker
  2282. [17:02] #HeaLnDeaL: I think special attacker makes sense
  2283. [17:02] +Da Pizza Man: we should also probably outspeed mega meta
  2284. [17:02] #HeaLnDeaL: enough physical bulk to take a mega metagross BP or two
  2285. [17:02] Reapehify: Ghosts usually have low HP, with exception of Drifblim.
  2286. [17:03] #HeaLnDeaL: outspeeding mega meta is nice too yeah
  2287. [17:03] Master Mewking: i'm gonna try some offensive competitive stats
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  2289. [17:03] +Da Pizza Man: \calc
  2290. [17:03] +Art2D2: CAP Damage Calculator: http://sparktrain.github.io/
  2291. [17:03] FullMetalDragon276: 80/60/100/120/160/40
  2292. [17:03] %KhosroTheGreat: we should be able to bulk tomo obvs too
  2293. [17:03] Reapehify: So 112 speed to outspeed 110 base speed users plus Thundurus?
  2294. [17:03] %KhosroTheGreat: woah 160 spd
  2295. [17:04] %KhosroTheGreat: 40 speed tho
  2296. [17:04] FullMetalDragon276: or maybe 140 spd and 60 speed, or 120 spd, and 80 speed
  2297. [17:04] FullMetalDragon276: the 160 and 40 would be suitable for trick room
  2298. [17:04] Reapehify: I'm going to go do calcs on attacks.
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  2300. [17:05] Reapehify: Lists of threats/counters please?
  2301. [17:05] +Da Pizza Man: who had that list
  2302. [17:05] %KhosroTheGreat: I posted it
  2303. [17:05] Reapehify: It's way up in chat somewhere.
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  2305. [17:05] %KhosroTheGreat: http://pastebin.com/2q6Bkh47
  2306. [17:06] %KhosroTheGreat: + chansey
  2307. [17:06] Animaignis: :I my stat spread has 599 total better edit :P
  2308. [17:06] +Da Pizza Man: how chansey?
  2309. [17:06] +Da Pizza Man: we completly shhit on it
  2310. [17:06] %KhosroTheGreat: oh wait
  2311. [17:06] %KhosroTheGreat: mb now
  2312. [17:06] %KhosroTheGreat: we didn't have mb at the time
  2313. [17:06] +Da Pizza Man: ghost
  2314. [17:07] +Da Pizza Man: also would it be a good idea to doncalcs with lo or naw
  2315. [17:07] %KhosroTheGreat: My moonblast is struggling to OHKO tomo
  2316. [17:07] #HeaLnDeaL: wait is there a BST limit?
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  2318. [17:07] +Da Pizza Man: just do 600
  2319. [17:07] +Da Pizza Man: i guess
  2320. [17:07] #HeaLnDeaL: I mean not saying we need one
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  2322. [17:07] +Da Pizza Man: khosro?
  2323. [17:08] #HeaLnDeaL: just someone said something that made me think we had one
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  2325. [17:08] Animaignis: Okay: Spread 1: 95 HP, 60 Atk, 95 Def, 100 SpA, 150 SpD, 86 Speed
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  2327. [17:08] Reapehify: Isn't Metagross-Mega also a check?
  2328. [17:08] Animaignis: A bulky specially defensive mon, deals around 75-80 damage to Tomo
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  2330. [17:08] Animaignis: decent split bulk
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  2332. [17:08] Reapehify: 600 seems like a good BST limit.
  2333. [17:08] %KhosroTheGreat: I think 600 is a decent unofficial one, but in some circumstances it could be acceptable
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  2335. [17:09] Master Mewking: okay 70/80/80/130/80/120 pure special offense
  2336. [17:09] Reapehify: I also like 550.
  2337. [17:09] lightninging2: 600 is a lil high, 550 sounds better imo
  2338. [17:09] Animaignis: I vote under 600
  2339. [17:09] Animaignis: I think mine is 589 total, btw
  2340. [17:09] %KhosroTheGreat: You need 150 SpA to have a guarunteed OHKO
  2341. [17:10] Done with MONOTYPE: fucking murdfer all the fucking cancer jirachi
  2342. [17:10] Done with MONOTYPE: fucking done with cap
  2343. [17:10] %KhosroTheGreat: vulpix :c
  2344. [17:10] #HeaLnDeaL: WIP 90/60/122/125/105/111
  2345. [17:10] Master Mewking: 70/80/80/130/80/120=560
  2346. [17:10] Done with MONOTYPE: at least my dark mono can fucking destroy that stupid trash
  2347. [17:10] Done with MONOTYPE: sorry Im just salty lol e.e
  2348. [17:11] Animaignis: .-.
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  2350. [17:11] #HeaLnDeaL: WIP 90/60/122/125/97/111 -- survives gross's crit BP and survives tomo's LO hurricane, both after SR
  2351. [17:12] Animaignis: Can i submit multiple spreads?
  2352. [17:12] Animaignis: Because i want to work on a bulky and a frail set
  2353. [17:12] %KhosroTheGreat: I think so
  2354. [17:13] #HeaLnDeaL: blah how important is it to survive a crit BP from gross?
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  2356. [17:14] Reapehify: 100/104 HP/Defense survives both Scizor and Metagross Bullet punch if maxed out and survives one Meteor Mash.
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  2358. [17:14] Reapehify: Two bullet punch*
  2359. [17:14] FullMetalDragon276: it would be cool if we make it a real cap mon
  2360. [17:14] %KhosroTheGreat: we're probably not going to be maxed out tho
  2361. [17:14] Animaignis: eh imma just stick with bulky set
  2362. [17:14] Reapehify: No but it gets the option.
  2363. [17:15] Reapehify: Otherwise you're bulky enough to tank a hit or two providing low rolls.
  2364. [17:15] #HeaLnDeaL: WIP: 90/60/122/125/102/111
  2365. [17:15] #HeaLnDeaL: ugh, looks so high
  2366. [17:15] Animaignis: lol
  2367. [17:15] Reapehify: In other words, it's bulky enough to hit checks.
  2368. [17:15] Animaignis: what total is that?
  2369. [17:15] %KhosroTheGreat: 610
  2370. [17:15] Animaignis: ;-;
  2371. [17:16] Animaignis: how specialized can we make it?
  2372. [17:16] #HeaLnDeaL: ye... going to have to lower def. crit gross's BP will get us tho
  2373. [17:16] Done with MONOTYPE: oo 1640 damn thats nice
  2374. [17:17] Done with MONOTYPE: :]
  2375. [17:17] Animaignis: like, can we pull a beedrill-m on this?
  2376. [17:17] +Deck Knight: No
  2377. [17:17] Animaignis: alrite
  2378. [17:18] #HeaLnDeaL: WIP 90/55/102/125/102/111
  2379. [17:18] lightninging2: does attack gotta be 80?
  2380. • OUSableye-Mega Magic BounceHP
  2381. 50Atk
  2382. 85Def
  2383. 125SpA
  2384. 85SpD
  2385. 115Spe
  2386. 20BST
  2387. 480
  2388. •
  2389. Dex#: 302 |  Gen: 6 |  Height: 0.5 m |  Weight: 161 kg (100 BP) |  Dex Colour: Purple |  Egg Group(s):Human-Like |  Does Not Evolve
  2390. [17:18] %KhosroTheGreat: no
  2391. [17:18] Animaignis: will we have a healing move?
  2392. [17:19] #HeaLnDeaL: eww realizing that my spread is superior to mega sab... that's too high
  2393. [17:19] Animaignis: because that is relevant
  2394. [17:19] Animaignis: rofl HeaL
  2395. [17:19] %KhosroTheGreat: lower the def
  2396. [17:19] #HeaLnDeaL: I just lowered it by 20...
  2397. [17:19] #HeaLnDeaL: still high
  2398. [17:20] %KhosroTheGreat: what's the boundary for bp w/o crit?
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  2400. [17:20] #HeaLnDeaL: I can go lower I guess
  2401. [17:20] %KhosroTheGreat: !dt sableye-mega
  2402. • OUSableye-Mega Magic BounceHP
  2403. 50Atk
  2404. 85Def
  2405. 125SpA
  2406. 85SpD
  2407. 115Spe
  2408. 20BST
  2409. 480
  2410. •
  2411. Dex#: 302 |  Gen: 6 |  Height: 0.5 m |  Weight: 161 kg (100 BP) |  Dex Colour: Purple |  Egg Group(s):Human-Like |  Does Not Evolve
  2412. [17:20] Reapehify: 100/20/104/108/96/112
  2413. [17:21] #HeaLnDeaL: like 90/78 or something is the boundary
  2414. [17:21] CantGreggMe: >20 attack
  2415. [17:21] #HeaLnDeaL: don't need to go that low tho
  2416. [17:21] CantGreggMe: w0t
  2417. [17:21] %KhosroTheGreat: > 20 atk, reaper
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  2419. [17:21] Animaignis: .-. megasab has a 480 stat total
  2420. [17:21] Animaignis: wut
  2421. [17:21] Animaignis: even
  2422. [17:21] %KhosroTheGreat: 90/60/80/125/102/111
  2423. [17:21] Reapehify: I feel it's a ghost type and it's not of the physical plane, has physical impotency.
  2424. [17:21] #HeaLnDeaL: WIP 90/55/90/125/102/113
  2425. [17:22] Done with MONOTYPE: megasab is a good example of bad stat distribution tbh
  2426. [17:22] Reapehify: My BST is 520.
  2427. [17:22] Reapehify: I mean that's fair.
  2428. [17:22] Animaignis: Okay what do you guys think of 80/40/108/110/140/111 (589 total)
  2429. [17:22] CantGreggMe: if sable had a higher BST like 50 it would just add 10 to each defensive stat
  2430. [17:22] CantGreggMe: 500*
  2431. [17:22] Animaignis: lol
  2432. [17:22] %KhosroTheGreat: 568 BST for my version and 575 for Heal
  2433. [17:22] Reapehify: It seems too low when taking bullet punches.
  2434. [17:22] #HeaLnDeaL: ours are near identical, koso
  2435. [17:23] %KhosroTheGreat: mine is yours
  2436. [17:23] %KhosroTheGreat: but with lower atk
  2437. [17:23] %KhosroTheGreat: so really its yours
  2438. [17:23] Reapehify: I did research on attacks so it would be able to wall them on the physical side.
  2439. [17:23] CantGreggMe: 90/55/85/120/100/120
  2440. [17:23] CantGreggMe: tbh
  2441. [17:23] #HeaLnDeaL: no mine has lower atk
  2442. [17:23] %KhosroTheGreat: 100/60/104/108/96/112 for Reap's IMO
  2443. [17:23] %KhosroTheGreat: *lower def
  2444. [17:24] Reapehify: You like mine?
  2445. [17:24] Animaignis: Iv been modeling mine after Latias spread
  2446. [17:24] #HeaLnDeaL: 100/104 seems a lot
  2447. [17:24] CantGreggMe: mine is 570 :0
  2448. [17:24] %KhosroTheGreat: I was boosting your stupid 20 atk
  2449. [17:24] Reapehify: But it doesn't need it.
  2450. [17:24] Reapehify: It's celestial.
  2451. [17:24] Animaignis: So.... what do you guys think of my 80/40/108/110/140/111 (589 total)
  2452. [17:24] Reapehify: It doesn't punch you in the face.
  2453. [17:24] %KhosroTheGreat: 40 def sounds very low vs colo and mmeta
  2454. [17:24] %KhosroTheGreat: ani
  2455. [17:24] %KhosroTheGreat: and physical krill
  2456. [17:24] Animaignis: thats attack
  2457. [17:25] %KhosroTheGreat: oh
  2458. [17:25] %KhosroTheGreat: derp
  2459. [17:25] Animaignis: 80/108/140 bulk
  2460. [17:25] Reapehify: 100/105 is barely able to survive Metagross/Scizor.
  2461. [17:25] #HeaLnDeaL: k, my final sub is 90/55/90/125/102/113
  2462. [17:25] %KhosroTheGreat: it doesn't need to survive zoe
  2463. [17:25] Animaignis: why 113 speed?
  2464. [17:25] CantGreggMe: btw we forgot mega aero
  2465. [17:25] %KhosroTheGreat: as a check?
  2466. [17:25] #HeaLnDeaL: surviving scizor is too much
  2467. [17:26] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  2468. [17:26] Animaignis: Alrite. 80/40/108/110/140/111 (589 total) is my final submission. Pretty flexible between defense and offense, can take non-crit Metagross and Scizor Bullet Punch, and has pretty decent hits.
  2469. [17:26] Reapehify: Okay.
  2470. [17:26] Reapehify: So without any investments 100/105/95 is the best bulk from calcs.
  2471. [17:26] Animaignis: It is similar to latias but just with -20 attack, +10 defense +10 SpD
  2472. [17:26] CantGreggMe: Eh I'll keep mine. 90/55/85/120/100/120 (570 BST)
  2473. [17:27] #HeaLnDeaL: btw, my 125 sp atk is the min to always KO bulky tomo after SR
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  2475. [17:27] %KhosroTheGreat: with what nature?
  2476. [17:27] #HeaLnDeaL: bold
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  2478. [17:28] #HeaLnDeaL: 252 bold
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  2480. [17:28] #HeaLnDeaL: since specially def tomo hardly exists
  2481. [17:28] %KhosroTheGreat: which nature flashcap?
  2482. [17:28] #HeaLnDeaL: and assuming timid on CAP
  2483. [17:28] %KhosroTheGreat: 252 SpA Mega Sableye Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tomohawk: 362-428 (87.4 - 103.3%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
  2484. [17:28] %KhosroTheGreat: why is calc broken?
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  2486. [17:28] %KhosroTheGreat: *my
  2487. [17:28] #HeaLnDeaL: I said after SR
  2488. [17:28] Reapehify: So 100/40/101/108/99/112 is my final submission.
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  2490. [17:29] +Da Pizza Man: 90/60/85/105/119/111 is mine, lets us get a guarnteed ohko on tomo with sr and live hurricane even after sr
  2491. [17:29] %KhosroTheGreat: 252 SpA Mega Sableye Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tomohawk: 362-428 (87.4 - 103.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
  2492. [17:29] Animaignis: oo wait can i submit a bonus one real quick?
  2493. [17:29] #HeaLnDeaL: close enuff to 100%
  2494. [17:29] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  2495. [17:29] Ria: 85/70/102/120/108/100 with BST being 585 is what I'm sticking with
  2496. [17:29] %KhosroTheGreat: there's a lot of very similar submissions
  2497. [17:30] %KhosroTheGreat: do I make a slate now?
  2498. [17:30] %KhosroTheGreat: *should
  2499. [17:30] %KhosroTheGreat: i.e. anyone else wanna submit?
  2500. [17:30] Reapehify: 252+ SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Tomohawk: 272-324 (65.7 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  2501. [17:30] Reapehify: That's mine.
  2502. [17:30] Reapehify: On a SpD Tomo.
  2503. [17:30] %KhosroTheGreat: 252 spd tomo is practically non-existant
  2504. [17:30] Reapehify: 252+ SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tomohawk: 360-426 (86.9 - 102.8%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
  2505. [17:30] Reapehify: Without SpD.
  2506. [17:31] CantGreggMe: 252+ SpA Abomasnow Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tomohawk: 390-458 (94.2 - 110.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
  2507. [17:31] CantGreggMe: 120 SPA Modest
  2508. [17:31] Yojimbro: I hope its not getting any way to boost its stats
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  2510. [17:31] Reapehify: I've got enough bulk to take two hits from Krill without any investment, and one hit from Navithan and Bullet Punches.
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  2512. [17:31] Reapehify: With investment you could tank either side and lose to the either.
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  2514. [17:32] Ria: With what it's concept is, I can't see it getting a boosting move. But that's a topic for moveset step
  2515. [17:32] Reapehify: Enough speed to out run base 110 with investment. And even a boost in attack for you, Khosro. :^)
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  2517. [17:32] Animaignis: split 80/95/120/95/110/86 maybe?
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  2519. [17:33] Animaignis: outsped by Metagross yes, but a little more even
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  2521. [17:33] Animaignis: maybe not completely walled by chansey do to physical attack?
  2522. [17:33] Reapehify: Mine BST is 560.
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  2524. [17:33] %KhosroTheGreat: OK I got a WIP Slate
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  2526. [17:33] Candle Jerk: I think we should outspeed Megagross
  2527. [17:33] Animaignis: ur probably right.
  2528. [17:33] #HeaLnDeaL: I think we need to
  2529. [17:33] %KhosroTheGreat: only 5 subs anyhow
  2530. [17:33] %KhosroTheGreat: http://pastebin.com/1gbgF16d
  2531. [17:33] +Da Pizza Man: 90/60/90/110/119/111 is my final submission, lets us deal with many common tomomteam mates like krillowatt and mega meta by letting us survive our attacks and dish out good damage
  2532. [17:33] Reapehify: Otherwise it wrecks you with Meteor Mash.
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  2534. [17:33] %KhosroTheGreat: ah dpm with dat late sub
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  2536. [17:34] %KhosroTheGreat: I'll add u to slate
  2537. [17:34] Animaignis: mine is wrong
  2538. [17:34] Reapehify: DPM already submitted a last sub.
  2539. [17:34] Reapehify: Lol.
  2540. [17:34] lightninging2: could give it psychock to help w chansey
  2541. [17:34] +Da Pizza Man: reaphify no i didn't
  2542. [17:34] Animaignis: 80/40/108/110/140/111
  2543. [17:34] Animaignis: was mine^
  2544. [17:34] Reapehify: [18:29:00] Reapehify: So 100/40/101/108/99/112 is my final submission.
  2545. [17:34] Reapehify: [18:29:16] +Da Pizza Man: 90/60/85/105/119/111 is mine, lets us get a guarnteed ohko on tomo with sr and live hurricane even after sr
  2546. [17:34] %KhosroTheGreat: didn't say it was final
  2547. [17:34] +Da Pizza Man: reaphify never said final there
  2548. [17:35] Reapehify: Fair enough. But you said it immediately after me. Looks like you were agreeing and adding yours.
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  2550. [17:35] Animaignis: watch as we all vote for our own spreads :P
  2551. [17:35] +Da Pizza Man: lol
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  2553. [17:36] Reapehify: Shouldn't be allowed to.
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  2555. [17:36] Reapehify: :^)
  2556. [17:36] Animaignis: lol
  2557. [17:36] +Da Pizza Man: khosro have the slate?
  2558. [17:36] #HeaLnDeaL: it's allowed in main cap
  2559. [17:36] %KhosroTheGreat: nearly
  2560. [17:36] Reapehify: I know, just teasing.
  2561. [17:36] Animaignis: khosro u have my rite submission?
  2562. [17:36] Animaignis: since pastebin one is wrong
  2563. [17:36] %KhosroTheGreat: http://pastebin.com/dRJn0AU0
  2564. [17:37] Animaignis: seems legit
  2565. [17:37] %KhosroTheGreat: anyone not included and/or mistake on spread?
  2566. [17:37] %KhosroTheGreat: if not, poll starting
  2567. [17:37] Master Mewking: these stats good? 80/40/100/130/150/120
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  2569. [17:37] #HeaLnDeaL: dang this is super high BST with super good ability
  2570. [17:37] %KhosroTheGreat: is that a final sub mewking?
  2571. [17:38] @gday: with super good typing
  2572. [17:38] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  2573. [17:38] Obvious Pooter: now let's go full aurumoth on the movepool
  2574. [17:38] Master Mewking: yep i'm done
  2575. [17:38] Animaignis: rofl
  2576. [17:38] Animaignis: *Gives it Tail Glow* XD
  2577. [17:38] Animaignis: gg world
  2578. [17:38] Animaignis: Cawm, move over. We got a new sweeper in town
  2579. [17:39] #HeaLnDeaL: good thing we said in concept assessment no to boosting
  2580. Poll What stat spread should our FlashCAP have?
  2581. 1. HeaL: 90/55/90/125/102/113 (575 BST) (4 votes)
  2582. 27%
  2583. 2. Ani: 80/40/108/110/140/111 (589 BST) (4 votes)
  2584. 27%
  2585. 3. Gregg: 90/55/85/120/100/120 (570 BST) (0 votes)
  2586. 0%
  2587. 4. Reaper: 100/40/101/108/99/112 (560 BST) (2 votes)
  2588. 13%
  2589. 5. Ria: 85/70/102/120/108/100 (585 BST) (1 vote)
  2590. 7%
  2591. 6. DPM: 90/60/90/110/119/111 (580 BST) (3 votes)
  2592. 20%
  2593. 7. Deskoro: 95/60/80/120/105/105 (565 BST) (1 vote)
  2594. 7%
  2595. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2596. [17:39] %KhosroTheGreat: Mewking your BST was 620
  2597. [17:39] %KhosroTheGreat: which is too high
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  2599. [17:39] Master Mewking: oh
  2600. [17:39] Master Mewking: oops
  2601. [17:39] Animaignis: *legendary bug* :P
  2602. [17:39] Master Mewking: i was making so many changes
  2603. [17:39] CantGreggMe: rip me
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  2605. [17:39] Animaignis: 130/150/120 is a cluse Mew :P
  2606. [17:39] CantGreggMe: even I didnt pick me
  2607. [17:39] Animaignis: lol
  2608. [17:40] CantGreggMe: well i think i just gregged myself
  2609. [17:40] Animaignis: clutch HeaL pull up :P
  2610. [17:40] Animaignis: clutch DPM pull up
  2611. [17:40] CantGreggMe: cluctch gregg pullup
  2612. [17:40] Animaignis: rofl
  2613. [17:41] +Sunfished: wait I wanted to suggest 1/1/255/1/255/1
  2614. [17:41] Animaignis: .-.
  2615. [17:41] %KhosroTheGreat: lol
  2616. [17:41] CantGreggMe: -makes 4 alts-
  2617. [17:41] Animaignis: XD
  2618. [17:41] #HeaLnDeaL: DPM's is prolly my second favorite
  2619. [17:41] Reapehify: HeaL is mine.
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  2621. [17:41] Animaignis: We should repoll the top 3 prolly
  2622. [17:41] Reapehify: Any that stand out, yes.
  2623. [17:41] Animaignis: yea
  2624. [17:41] Ria: Yeah that's what's gonna happen
  2625. [17:42] #HeaLnDeaL: I like gregg's too
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  2627. [17:42] Reapehify: 3+ votes should be repolled. Which means mine is gone. :(
  2628. [17:42] %KhosroTheGreat: 30 secs on poll
  2629. [17:42] CantGreggMe: I think I put not enought defense though
  2630. [17:42] Reapehify: I'm the winner of losers.
  2631. [17:42] Ria: I'm happy enough I got a vote lol
  2632. [17:42] Ria: Since I didn't vote for myself
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  2634. [17:43] Animaignis: no Gregg wins poll obsz :P
  2635. [17:43] Animaignis: legit af
  2636. [17:44] %KhosroTheGreat: k ending
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  2638. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2639. Poll ended What stat spread should our FlashCAP have?
  2640. 1. HeaL: 90/55/90/125/102/113 (575 BST) (4 votes)
  2641. 27%
  2642. 2. Ani: 80/40/108/110/140/111 (589 BST) (4 votes)
  2643. 27%
  2644. 3. Gregg: 90/55/85/120/100/120 (570 BST) (0 votes)
  2645. 0%
  2646. 4. Reaper: 100/40/101/108/99/112 (560 BST) (2 votes)
  2647. 13%
  2648. 5. Ria: 85/70/102/120/108/100 (585 BST) (1 vote)
  2649. 7%
  2650. 6. DPM: 90/60/90/110/119/111 (580 BST) (3 votes)
  2651. 20%
  2652. 7. Deskoro: 95/60/80/120/105/105 (565 BST) (1 vote)
  2653. 7%
  2654. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  2655. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2656. [17:44] Animaignis: HeaL with that clutch lead tho
  2657. [17:44] Animaignis: teaching those high BSTs how its done
  2658. [17:45] DrapionSwing: oh
  2659. [17:45] Animaignis: wats up with the 113 speed tho?
  2660. [17:45] Reapehify: Mine was 560, so HeaL is closer to my vaules.
  2661. [17:45] DrapionSwing: Why didn't anyone highlight me ffs!
  2662. [17:45] #HeaLnDeaL: I just think ani's stats make it better than mega sab... without being mega
  2663. [17:45] %KhosroTheGreat: all high bst tho
  2664. [17:45] Reapehify: values*
  2665. [17:45] Animaignis: rofl
  2666. [17:45] %KhosroTheGreat: sorry drap
  2667. [17:45] DrapionSwing: xD
  2668. [17:45] DrapionSwing: Quick before voting ends
  2669. [17:45] DrapionSwing: What are the intentions for each stat?
  2670. [17:45] Reapehify: We should go again for another vote.
  2671. [17:45] Animaignis: HeaL mine is a altered Latias
  2672. [17:46] Master Mewking: if i did more work on the base stats
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  2674. [17:46] Reapehify: With Magic Bounce instead of Levitate.
  2675. [17:46] %KhosroTheGreat: 45 secs before ending
  2676. [17:46] Animaignis: Yeah.
  2677. [17:46] #HeaLnDeaL: outspeed mega gross, survive BPs from gross plus some, kill defensive tomo after SR, survive hurricane after SR b=plus some
  2678. [17:46] Animaignis: Mega Sableye has more Defense anyways
  2679. [17:46] Reapehify: KhosroTheGreat, are we doing one more vote?
  2680. [17:46] Reapehify: We should.
  2681. [17:46] +Da Pizza Man: no
  2682. [17:46] %KhosroTheGreat: the 3 was to get a nice round number for BST
  2683. [17:47] Animaignis: it is?
  2684. [17:47] %KhosroTheGreat: it got 575
  2685. [17:47] %KhosroTheGreat: which is rounder than 573
  2686. [17:47] %KhosroTheGreat: anyhow
  2687. [17:47] Animaignis: o lol
  2688. [17:47] DrapionSwing: I like anis
  2689. [17:47] Reapehify: Three from DPM could vote for Animaignis.
  2690. [17:47] DrapionSwing: I like anis
  2691. [17:47] Reapehify: Should vote again.
  2692. [17:47] Animaignis: its mega sabs fault that he has such low stats
  2693. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2694. Poll ended What stat spread should our FlashCAP have?
  2695. 1. HeaL: 90/55/90/125/102/113 (575 BST) (7 votes)
  2696. 47%
  2697. 2. Ani: 80/40/108/110/140/111 (589 BST) (5 votes)
  2698. 33%
  2699. 3. DPM: 90/60/90/110/119/111 (580 BST) (3 votes)
  2700. 20%
  2701. [17:48] %KhosroTheGreat: go on then
  2702. [17:48] %KhosroTheGreat: a quick one
  2703. [17:48] Animaignis: *start ur engines*
  2704. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  2705. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2706. [17:48] %KhosroTheGreat: since it's so close
  2707. [17:48] Animaignis: *rev ur engines*
  2708. [17:48] Reapehify: And they should have addressed why their stats were better.
  2709. [17:48] Reapehify: Oh well.
  2710. [17:48] Animaignis: *explode*
  2711. [17:48] %KhosroTheGreat: FlashCAP is Flash
  2712. [17:48] +Da Pizza Man: mine were better because
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  2714. [17:48] %KhosroTheGreat: need4speed
  2715. [17:48] +Da Pizza Man: uh....
  2716. [17:49] %KhosroTheGreat: also all of the posts were so similar
  2717. [17:49] Animaignis: Mine has good chance of OHKOing Tomo with 252 SpA, can survive BPs, and can tank Hurricanes pretty easily.
  2718. [17:49] Reapehify: That just means we have a unified idea of what the CAP should be. That's likely a good thing.
  2719. [17:49] %KhosroTheGreat: probably
  2720. [17:49] Animaignis: true
  2721. [17:49] #HeaLnDeaL: I feel like we made a tomo killer... by making an almost equally broken mon, rip.
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  2723. [17:49] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  2724. [17:49] Animaignis: :P
  2725. [17:49] Animaignis: ^
  2726. [17:49] Reapehify: I predicted that at the beginning.
  2727. [17:49] Reapehify: I predicted that.
  2728. [17:49] Animaignis: true.
  2729. [17:49] #HeaLnDeaL: movepool can save us tho
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  2731. [17:50] #HeaLnDeaL: if we are conservative
  2732. [17:50] %KhosroTheGreat: yes
  2733. [17:50] +Da Pizza Man: fuck conservatives
  2734. [17:50] Animaignis: we shouldn't have done magic bounce imo.
  2735. [17:50] +Da Pizza Man: i'm a liberal
  2736. [17:50] Animaignis: *Legendary Bug time*
  2737. [17:50] Animaignis: We should go full Keldeo on this stuffz
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  2739. [17:50] CantGreggMe: full cawm*
  2740. [17:50] Reapehify: We shouldn't, but out well.
  2741. [17:51] %KhosroTheGreat: 30 secs for ending
  2742. [17:51] +Da Pizza Man: next is ability 2
  2743. [17:51] Animaignis: <full keldeo>
  2744. [17:51] Reapehify: Jusitifed.
  2745. [17:51] %KhosroTheGreat: 55 atk tho
  2746. [17:51] Animaignis: well i think we sees who wins here :P
  2747. [17:51] Animaignis: tru
  2748. [17:51] Reapehify: Wonder Skin.
  2749. [17:51] #HeaLnDeaL: aroma veil, wonder skin, debate it out now?
  2750. [17:51] %KhosroTheGreat: regen secondary ability lol
  2751. [17:51] Animaignis: Wonder Skin. Obsz.
  2752. [17:51] Yojimbro: Give it shell smash, Quiver dance, vacuum wave, moonblast, Shadow ball GG
  2753. [17:52] Animaignis: XD
  2754. [17:52] Reapehify: Those are the only moves that it learns.
  2755. [17:52] Reapehify: > was conservative
  2756. [17:52] %KhosroTheGreat: no reason for aroma veil nor wonder skin if mb is a thing
  2757. [17:52] Animaignis: Obvs Wonder Skin tho cmon guys. Gimmicks for dayz
  2758. [17:52] Yojimbro: give it 5 attacking slots also
  2759. [17:52] Yojimbro: for ggood measure
  2760. [17:52] #HeaLnDeaL: rof
  2761. [17:52] Animaignis: rofl
  2762. [17:52] %KhosroTheGreat: have to give it something niche
  2763. [17:52] Yojimbro: 5MSS
  2764. [17:52] Reapehify: But Khosro, ability two is a flavour ability.
  2765. [17:52] Reapehify: Or can be.
  2766. [17:52] #HeaLnDeaL: end the poll already
  2767. [17:52] Animaignis: U forgot Tail Glow and Aura Sphere :P
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  2769. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2770. Poll ended What stat spread should our FlashCAP have?
  2771. 1. HeaL: 90/55/90/125/102/113 (575 BST) (8 votes)
  2772. 57%
  2773. 2. Ani: 80/40/108/110/140/111 (589 BST) (6 votes)
  2774. 43%
  2775. [17:52] +Da Pizza Man: Own Tempo
  2776. [17:53] #HeaLnDeaL: rip ani
  2777. [17:53] %KhosroTheGreat: gratz to heal
  2778. [17:53] #HeaLnDeaL: sorry bro
  2779. [17:53] Animaignis: :P
  2780. [17:53] Animaignis: lol
  2781. [17:53] Reapehify: Justified, man.
  2782. [17:53] +Da Pizza Man: reaphify ability 2 is competitve
  2783. [17:53] #HeaLnDeaL: kk, secondary ability funz
  2784. [17:53] Yojimbro: Where is the spacial rend
  2785. [17:53] @gday: how well does this take hurricane from lo tomohaw?
  2786. [17:53] Animaignis: eh idk about Justified. Fairies don't seem much like "Justice" kinda guys, like Batman
  2787. [17:53] Reapehify: Does the second ability have to be competitive if the first is?
  2788. [17:53] %KhosroTheGreat: it survives iirc
  2789. [17:53] #HeaLnDeaL: it survives after SR plus a little extra, gday
  2790. [17:53] @gday: ok
  2791. [17:53] Animaignis: Illuminate. Obviously :P
  2792. [17:53] Reapehify: Fairies are all about nobility and grace.
  2793. [17:53] Reapehify: ^
  2794. [17:54] Reapehify: I like Illuminate as a third ability.
  2795. [17:54] #HeaLnDeaL: I like wonder skin tbh
  2796. all oms are bad left
  2797. [17:54] Reapehify: So do I.
  2798. [17:54] +Da Pizza Man: 252+ SpA Life Orb Tomohawk Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 231-273 (71.9 - 85%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
  2799. [17:54] Animaignis: Or Cursed Body might be cool
  2800. [17:54] Reapehify: Can someone post stats again?
  2801. [17:54] Animaignis: <Multitype hidden ability>
  2802. [17:54] %KhosroTheGreat: battle armor anyone?
  2803. [17:54] #HeaLnDeaL: 90/55/90/125/102/113 (575 BST)
  2804. [17:54] Animaignis: eh
  2805. [17:55] Animaignis: battle armor =/= fairy
  2806. [17:55] Animaignis: imo
  2807. [17:55] %KhosroTheGreat: pressure ?
  2808. [17:55] Reapehify: Why not?
  2809. [17:55] Animaignis: Better for a ghost/steel type
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  2811. [17:55] Reapehify: Fur Coat.
  2812. [17:55] Reapehify: :^)
  2813. [17:55] Animaignis: XD
  2814. [17:55] %KhosroTheGreat: oh infiltrator
  2815. [17:55] Yojimbro: Friend guard
  2816. [17:55] %KhosroTheGreat: that's an actual niche
  2817. [17:55] Animaignis: How about Magician?
  2818. [17:55] Reapehify: Look at our drawing.
  2819. [17:55] Reapehify: For inspiration.
  2820. [17:55] %KhosroTheGreat: I like magician
  2821. [17:55] Animaignis: but is that official as a drawing?
  2822. [17:55] Reapehify: It's like a giant yeti.
  2823. [17:56] Animaignis: Imma stick with Magician. I like how it fits with both typings.
  2824. [17:56] %KhosroTheGreat: could be a giant magic yeti
  2825. [17:56] +Sunfished: oh, I have one, but I didn't know when to post?
  2826. [17:56] Animaignis: now? idk :P
  2827. [17:56] Animaignis: khosro u gotta Dcide
  2828. [17:56] %KhosroTheGreat: when do art subs start in actual CAP?
  2829. [17:56] Animaignis: Huge Power as hidden ability GG :P
  2830. [17:56] +Da Pizza Man: after type khoso
  2831. [17:56] Animaignis: double that 55 attack stat rofl
  2832. [17:57] %KhosroTheGreat: k submit plz Sunfished
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  2834. [17:57] Animaignis: We gotta do Huge Power peoples :P
  2835. [17:57] %KhosroTheGreat: azu has 50 atk
  2836. [17:57] %KhosroTheGreat: js
  2837. [17:57] +Sunfished: http://puu.sh/ngAT4/8a90282e1f.png
  2838. [17:57] Animaignis: Diggersby has 55
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  2840. [17:57] +Da Pizza Man: also guys can we please not let flavor interefere with competive choice
  2841. [17:57] +Sunfished: sorry if I trigger people
  2842. [17:57] Animaignis: o_0 scary af
  2843. [17:57] +Sunfished: ovo
  2844. [17:57] Animaignis: im scarwed
  2845. [17:57] Reapehify: Sunfished, you took inspiration from Kirby Triple Deluxe, didn't you?
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  2847. [17:57] +Sunfished: indeed
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  2849. [17:57] Animaignis: is it using its ass as a cannon? o_0
  2850. [17:58] +Sunfished: I name it
  2851. [17:58] • Animaignis is disturbed
  2852. [17:58] +Sunfished: Bronzecho
  2853. [17:58] +Da Pizza Man: what abilities do we have so far
  2854. [17:58] +Sunfished: :^)
  2855. [17:58] %KhosroTheGreat: not yet but k
  2856. [17:58] Animaignis: \o/
  2857. [17:58] Reapehify: I like that.
  2858. [17:58] Yojimbro: Its a seperate Bronzong evo path
  2859. [17:58] Yojimbro: lol
  2860. [17:58] Animaignis: rofl
  2861. [17:58] Jack Ferry: can we have naughty mode
  2862. [17:58] #HeaLnDeaL: we'll have an art vote after secondary ability
  2863. [17:58] Jack Ferry: for uhh science reasons
  2864. [17:58] Animaignis: XD
  2865. [17:58] Reapehify: Naughty Mode Cute Charm for ability.
  2866. [17:58] Animaignis: dang that naughty mode tho
  2867. [17:58] Reapehify: Game over.
  2868. [17:58] Ria: Bronzonetta
  2869. [17:58] %KhosroTheGreat: infiiltrator, magician, pressure, wonder skin
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  2871. [17:58] Reapehify: Immunity.
  2872. [17:58] %KhosroTheGreat: cursed body
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  2874. [17:58] Reapehify: I just like that.
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  2876. [17:59] +Da Pizza Man: infiltrator
  2877. [17:59] Animaignis: Magician mPeeps \o/
  2878. [17:59] +Da Pizza Man: kills subs and is inferior to magic bounce
  2879. [17:59] Animaignis: what was Sunfish thinking of when drawing "naughty mode" 9_9
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  2881. [17:59] %KhosroTheGreat: ooh
  2882. [17:59] Jack Ferry: what you think when you see it
  2883. [17:59] %KhosroTheGreat: thick fat
  2884. [17:59] Animaignis: XD
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  2886. [17:59] Animaignis: I can't draw worth shit otherwise i would submit something :I
  2887. [17:59] #HeaLnDeaL: koso, aroma veil
  2888. [18:00] Reapehify: I like Dry Skin.
  2889. [18:00] Snorlax_in_the_way: gday gday
  2890. [18:00] #HeaLnDeaL: *wonder skin
  2891. [18:00] Reapehify: Dry Skin/Wonder Skin combo.
  2892. [18:00] Snorlax_in_the_way: hai heal, and khos
  2893. [18:00] Animaignis: Should I draw something anyways? :P
  2894. [18:00] #HeaLnDeaL: hi snor
  2895. [18:00] +Da Pizza Man: no competive ability
  2896. [18:00] %KhosroTheGreat: also aroma veil, but I think wonder skin and aroma veil are both redundant
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  2898. [18:00] #HeaLnDeaL: yeah sure ani
  2899. [18:00] Snorlax_in_the_way: heal
  2900. [18:00] %KhosroTheGreat: do we have a third ability?
  2901. [18:00] Snorlax_in_the_way: crucibelle isn't strong enough
  2902. [18:00] +Da Pizza Man: honestly khosro they are both redundant
  2903. [18:00] %KhosroTheGreat: flavor ability?
  2904. [18:00] +Da Pizza Man: khosro yes but its flavor
  2905. [18:00] Reapehify: We should have a second less competitive and third totally flavour.
  2906. [18:00] Reapehify: Wonder Skin/Dry Skin.
  2907. [18:01] %KhosroTheGreat: dry skin could be a think
  2908. [18:01] %KhosroTheGreat: lets us beat krill a little easier
  2909. [18:01] #HeaLnDeaL: true
  2910. [18:01] #HeaLnDeaL: but seems kinda good
  2911. [18:01] #HeaLnDeaL: less good than bounce I suppose
  2912. [18:01] Reapehify: See. I'm totally thoughtful. :^)
  2913. [18:01] +Da Pizza Man: problem is magic bounce is really good
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  2915. [18:01] %KhosroTheGreat: lightningrod and volt absorb also can help
  2916. [18:01] Yojimbro: Levitate lets you get in on Colo EQ
  2917. [18:01] Reapehify: Yeah.
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  2919. [18:02] %KhosroTheGreat: but I'm not hyped to give it random ass immunity abilities
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  2921. [18:02] Reapehify: Yeah.
  2922. [18:02] %KhosroTheGreat: levitate sounds really useful tho
  2923. [18:02] Reapehify: I like the whole skin angle.
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  2925. [18:02] +Da Pizza Man: wonder skin is literally a worse magic bounce
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  2927. [18:02] +Da Pizza Man: i don't really like it
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  2929. [18:03] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  2930. [18:03] #HeaLnDeaL: oh true
  2931. [18:03] #HeaLnDeaL: eh
  2932. [18:03] Drizzleboy: Here's my ghost-fairy sketch http://imgur.com/xmJS8Sh
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  2934. [18:04] %KhosroTheGreat: Starting to write slate now
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  2936. [18:04] kbrph: hey how long's left for this cap?
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  2938. [18:04] %KhosroTheGreat: It's an unofficial CAP kbrph
  2939. [18:04] kbrph: okay gotcha thanks
  2940. [18:04] #HeaLnDeaL: we're wrapping up secondary ability soon, then we'll have a short break. at xx:30 art polls should start
  2941. [18:06] Ria: So with the second ability we're looking for something to fill the gap for Magic Bouce?
  2942. [18:06] +Da Pizza Man: yes
  2943. [18:06] %KhosroTheGreat: http://pastebin.com/1GzS1wvK slate
  2944. [18:06] %KhosroTheGreat: last chance to say anything before I put up poll
  2945. [18:06] #HeaLnDeaL: slate looks decent
  2946. [18:06] Ria: I got nothing
  2947. [18:07] Ria: Maybe Levitate
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  2949. [18:07] +Da Pizza Man: who here is the bozo who said magician
  2950. [18:07] #HeaLnDeaL: but
  2951. [18:07] Yojimbro: Filter
  2952. [18:07] #HeaLnDeaL: Idk, I might add lightning rod for kril too
  2953. [18:07] %KhosroTheGreat: levitate i'll add
  2954. [18:07] %KhosroTheGreat: same with rod
  2955. [18:07] +Da Pizza Man: no filter please
  2956. [18:07] #HeaLnDeaL: since the only reason dry skin is on is for kril
  2957. [18:07] Yojimbro: hahaha
  2958. [18:07] Animaignis: i said magician, DPM :P
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  2960. [18:08] %KhosroTheGreat: why lightningrod over volt absorb, heal?
  2961. [18:08] +Sunfished: cute charm
  2962. [18:08] #HeaLnDeaL: +sp atk is nice since we're a sp atk
  2963. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  2964. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2965. [18:09] %KhosroTheGreat: cute charm is too flavor
  2966. [18:09] %KhosroTheGreat: good one for flavor ability tho
  2967. [18:09] +Sunfished: :((((
  2968. [18:09] #HeaLnDeaL: wut was the reasoning behind levitate?
  2969. [18:09] %KhosroTheGreat: colo
  2970. [18:09] %KhosroTheGreat: and e-power
  2971. [18:09] #HeaLnDeaL: eh okay
  2972. [18:10] %KhosroTheGreat: and it's a ghost so it made sense
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  2974. [18:10] #HeaLnDeaL: not like flavor matters (yet) but okay
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  2976. [18:11] %KhosroTheGreat: vote people vote!
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  2978. [18:12] #HeaLnDeaL: hi Fiend Hound
  2979. [18:12] +Fiend Hound: hello
  2980. [18:12] #HeaLnDeaL: we're making a flash cap : O
  2981. [18:12] +Fiend Hound: i love how bad some of those abilities are
  2982. [18:13] #HeaLnDeaL: ye this is secondary ability
  2983. [18:13] #HeaLnDeaL: Magic Bounce won primary ability
  2984. [18:13] %KhosroTheGreat: wow I keep getting ninja'd by heal
  2985. [18:13] %KhosroTheGreat: rip too slow
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  2987. [18:14] %KhosroTheGreat: 30 secs until ending
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  2989. [18:15] %KhosroTheGreat: k
  2990. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  2991. Poll ended What should our FlashCAP's ability be?
  2992. 1. Infiltrator (3 votes)
  2993. 21%
  2994. 2. Magician (3 votes)
  2995. 21%
  2996. 3. Dry Skin (1 vote)
  2997. 7%
  2998. 4. Pressure (1 vote)
  2999. 7%
  3000. 5. Cursed Body (0 votes)
  3001. 0%
  3002. 6. Levitate (5 votes)
  3003. 36%
  3004. 7. Lightningrod (1 vote)
  3005. 7%
  3006. [18:15] Yojimbro: awwww yeah
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  3008. [18:15] %KhosroTheGreat: poll 2 now?
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  3010. [18:15] #HeaLnDeaL: sure
  3011. [18:15] Ria: Yeah
  3012. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  3013. (A poll was started by KhosroTheGreat.)
  3014. [18:16] %KhosroTheGreat: IMO infiltrator is the best
  3015. @Animus Majulous joined
  3016. [18:16] Reapehify: It's a ghost type, of course it can infiltrate.
  3017. [18:17] CantGreggMe: But it can also levitate :)
  3018. [18:17] #HeaLnDeaL: hi Animus Majulous, we're making a flash cap
  3019. [18:17] Snorlax_in_the_way: heal
  3020. [18:17] Snorlax_in_the_way: what typing does it have
  3021. [18:17] %KhosroTheGreat: I like how it actually does something vs tomo
  3022. [18:17] @Animus Majulous: what's a flash cap?
  3023. [18:17] Ria: Ghost/Fairy
  3024. [18:17] CantGreggMe: Ghost/Fairy
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  3026. [18:17] CantGreggMe: gdi!
  3027. [18:17] Ria: :)
  3028. [18:17] Snorlax_in_the_way: I wasn't reallying paying attention but I like polls
  3029. [18:17] Snorlax_in_the_way: o
  3030. [18:17] #HeaLnDeaL: fairy/ghost, magic bounce/?, 90/55/90/125/102/113 (575 BST)
  3031. [18:17] Snorlax_in_the_way: I always forget you guys put flavor first
  3032. [18:17] %KhosroTheGreat: we don't
  3033. [18:18] #HeaLnDeaL: concept: I eat tomo for breakfast
  3034. [18:18] Snorlax_in_the_way: i was wondering why so many people picked levitate
  3035. [18:18] Ria: Concept is something something beating up Tomohawk
  3036. [18:18] Ria: yeah that
  3037. [18:18] Snorlax_in_the_way: it has no ground weakness
  3038. [18:18] Animaignis: what i miss? i was afk for like 10 min x_x
  3039. [18:18] CantGreggMe: It was a more gimmicky vote tbh
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  3041. [18:18] %KhosroTheGreat: its secondary ability where primary is mb
  3042. [18:18] %KhosroTheGreat: so it's really just filling a niche
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  3044. [18:19] %KhosroTheGreat: infil lets it beat subs (in particular sub tomo) and levi lets it dodge e-power and colo eq
  3045. [18:19] @Animus Majulous: this cap is broken
  3046. [18:19] @gdaY: yup
  3047. [18:19] Ria: lol
  3048. [18:19] %KhosroTheGreat: yeah I'm sorry
  3049. [18:19] #HeaLnDeaL: it's eating tomo for breakfast, going to be lil broken I guess
  3050. [18:19] %KhosroTheGreat: I mean we can still save it
  3051. [18:20] @Animus Majulous: > still save it LOL
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  3053. [18:20] @Animus Majulous: it also beats colo too
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  3055. [18:20] @Animus Majulous: that makes it too good lol
  3056. [18:20] @Animus Majulous: no levitate
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  3058. [18:20] #HeaLnDeaL: ye because colo is a tomo partner
  3059. [18:20] %KhosroTheGreat: we wanted it to beat colo tho
  3060. [18:20] Reapehify: And Cyclohm.
  3061. [18:20] @Animus Majulous: even tho i voted levitate
  3062. [18:20] @Animus Majulous: i didn't know this was what it was for
  3063. [18:20] #HeaLnDeaL: rof
  3064. [18:20] +Da Pizza Man: end el poll
  3065. [18:20] Ria: Well Cyclohm is not a special tank anyway
  3066. [18:20] %KhosroTheGreat: 30 secs until poll ends
  3067. [18:20] Yojimbro: it is supposed to be a soft check to all of CAP
  3068. [18:20] +Da Pizza Man: oh
  3069. [18:20] Yojimbro: from what it looks like
  3070. [18:20] #HeaLnDeaL: I think if we dont give it recovery it will at least not steal too much thunder from sab
  3071. [18:21] Desokoro: The next concept could focus on beating this if it gets too out of hand, although constantly creating things to counter others is a little repetitive.
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  3073. [18:21] %KhosroTheGreat: k
  3074. (The poll was ended by KhosroTheGreat.)
  3075. Poll ended What should our FlashCAP's ability be?
  3076. 1. Infiltrator (8 votes)
  3077. 53%
  3078. 2. Magician (1 vote)
  3079. 7%
  3080. 3. Levitate (6 votes)
  3081. 40%
  3082. [18:21] +Da Pizza Man: infiltrator wins
  3083. [18:21] %KhosroTheGreat: Infiltrator is our secondary ability
  3084. [18:21] %KhosroTheGreat: Is it moves next
  3085. [18:21] +Da Pizza Man: yes
  3086. [18:22] #HeaLnDeaL: no art first
  3087. [18:22] %KhosroTheGreat: is this art break?
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  3089. [18:23] #HeaLnDeaL: yeah
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  3091. [18:23] #HeaLnDeaL: I'll get the art poll up around xx:30 or xx:35
  3092. [18:23] #HeaLnDeaL: if you want to start moves discussion, wouldn't hurt too much I guess
  3093. [18:24] %KhosroTheGreat: I'll give people some time to draw I think
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  3095. [18:24] +Twix: do you guys have like
  3096. [18:24] +Twix: sample sets
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  3098. [18:24] @Animus Majulous: hey guys
  3099. [18:24] @Animus Majulous: monotype room is having a cap tour
  3100. [18:24] #HeaLnDeaL: for CAPmons, you mean?
  3101. [18:24] %KhosroTheGreat: hi and yes we do
  3102. [18:24] +Twix: yes HeaLnDeaL
  3103. [18:25] +Deck Knight: Moonblast/Shadow Ball/Will-O-Wisp/Softboiled
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  3105. [18:25] %KhosroTheGreat: www.smogon.com/forums/threads/cap-metagame-index-thread.3562128/
  3106. [18:25] %KhosroTheGreat: links and sample CAPmon sets
  3107. [18:25] #HeaLnDeaL: ^ look there twix
  3108. [18:25] +Twix: ty
  3109. [18:25] #HeaLnDeaL: I thin softboiled is too OP
  3110. [18:25] Reapehify: Monotype CAP.
  3111. [18:25] +Twix: are you guys ever going to do tutoring
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  3113. [18:25] #HeaLnDeaL: makes us way better than sab
  3114. [18:25] +Deck Knight: Moonblast/Shadow Ball/Will-O-Wisp/Moonlight
  3115. [18:25] Reapehify: Monotype CAP or be dq'd
  3116. [18:25] #HeaLnDeaL: yeah we're planning a tutor week sometime in the near future, twix
  3117. [18:26] +Twix: cool
  3118. [18:26] Animaignis: ungh im too lazy and tiered to do any more art stuff here is sub for flashcap http://imgur.com/eZ9S763 x_x
  3119. [18:26] @Animus Majulous: no bolds...
  3120. [18:26] Animaignis: sadly it looks more like a frail physical attacker x_x
  3121. [18:27] #HeaLnDeaL: hmm
  3122. [18:27] #HeaLnDeaL: I wonder if I can make a 5 min sketch
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  3124. [18:27] #HeaLnDeaL: brb
  3125. [18:27] +Deck Knight: Moonblast/Toxic/Hex/Stealth Rock
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  3127. [18:28] +Deck Knight: Calm Mind/Draining Kiss/Shadow Ball/Heal Bell
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  3129. [18:29] +Deck Knight: Discuss.
  3130. [18:30] Ria: Honestly I'd like to shy away from boosting moves
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  3132. [18:34] #HeaLnDeaL: k, art poll will be up at xx:40
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  3134. [18:40] Animaignis: can we wait till xx: 45?
  3135. [18:41] #HeaLnDeaL: do you really want to?
  3136. [18:41] Animaignis: yea
  3137. [18:41] Animaignis: im uploading a file rite now
  3138. [18:41] #HeaLnDeaL: k
  3139. [18:41] Animaignis: thx
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  3141. [18:42] DrapionSwing: So flash cap done?
  3142. [18:42] Animaignis: k im good http://imgur.com/i4afIva
  3143. [18:42] Ria: Doing art atm iirc
  3144. [18:43] #HeaLnDeaL: also pls provide a 10 word or less description
  3145. [18:43] Animaignis: alrite
  3146. [18:43] DrapionSwing: Ani, too hardcore I think
  3147. [18:43] Animaignis: in pastebin?
  3148. [18:43] DrapionSwing: Make it more elegant
  3149. [18:43] Animaignis: eh its to fit the stats
  3150. [18:43] Animaignis: we got a fighter
  3151. [18:44] DrapionSwing: If it had a more humble look
  3152. [18:44] DrapionSwing: like hands held in the middle
  3153. [18:44] Animaignis: i can try, but i wud need more time so im just gonna work on description
  3154. [18:44] DrapionSwing: Ahh ok <3
  3155. [18:44] Animaignis: so unless people really wanna see revised version if it wins, then im not planning on revise
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  3157. [18:46] #HeaLnDeaL: who made this one? http://imgur.com/eZ9S763
  3158. [18:47] DrapionSwing: That looks like something out of Amazing World of Gumball
  3159. [18:47] DrapionSwing: I'm not sure what particularly
  3160. [18:48] %KhosroTheGreat: ani did I think
  3161. [18:48] Animaignis: that was me heaL
  3162. [18:48] Animaignis: practice warmup
  3163. [18:48] #HeaLnDeaL: oh
  3164. [18:48] #HeaLnDeaL: okay
  3165. [18:48] Animaignis: i thought it looked too Physical
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  3167. [18:48] Animaignis: alrite i have link and description in pastebinhttp://pastebin.com/899CW3Pu
  3168. FullMetalDragon276 joined
  3169. [18:48] Animaignis: 10 words exact
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  3171. [18:49] DrapionSwing: ani
  3172. [18:49] DrapionSwing: You lowkey drew on some tits
  3173. @cbrevan joined
  3174. [18:49] Animaignis: so? i drew it feminine, yes
  3175. [18:49] DrapionSwing: Nah just an observation I made :L
  3176. [18:50] Animaignis: If it wins il probs redraw it to make it look better with chest diamond (currently slightly off) and try to make it look more elegant and fairy-ish
  3177. [18:50] Animaignis: hai CB
  3178. [18:51] @cbrevan: yo
  3179. [18:51] capmono ftw: cbrevan!
  3180. [18:51] capmono ftw: hi!
  3181. [18:51] DrapionSwing: Animaignis just make it less intimidating
  3182. [18:51] @cbrevan: gday :)
  3183. [18:51] Animaignis: If it wins
  3184. [18:51] capmono ftw: ew
  3185. [18:51] capmono ftw: don't do that
  3186. [18:51] @cbrevan: hehe
  3187. [18:51] DrapionSwing: Good luck Animaignis :3
  3188. [18:52] Animaignis: I wanted to make it look intimidating enough to beat Tomo, who is obvs pretty intimidating based off it's ability Intimidate :P
  3189. [18:52] Animaignis: but yea rite now.....
  3190. [18:52] Animaignis: <needs redoing>
  3191. [18:53] #HeaLnDeaL: k I think I have everything
  3192. [18:53] #HeaLnDeaL: watch this poll fail
  3193. [18:53] DrapionSwing: lol
  3194. [18:53] Animaignis: rofl
  3195. [18:53] Animaignis: everyones gonna be afk
  3196. [18:53] DrapionSwing: double lol
  3197. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  3198. (A poll was started by HeaLnDeaL.)
  3199. [18:53] Ria: uh
  3200. [18:53] #HeaLnDeaL: copy and paste the links to view image
  3201. [18:54] #HeaLnDeaL: 5 and 6 is both Animaignis
  3202. [18:54] Animaignis: rofl heal u messed up poll my sub is two things
  3203. [18:54] Ria: Uh kinda can't
  3204. [18:54] Animaignis: ninja'd
  3205. [18:54] DrapionSwing: ^
  3206. [18:54] Animaignis: \o/
  3207. [18:54] #HeaLnDeaL: k I'll post images one by one
  3208. [18:54] +Sunfished: oh, lol
  3209. I use gimmicks joined
  3210. [18:54] @cbrevan: do i see
  3211. [18:54] kbrph: oh shoot i tried to click a link and i posted
  3212. I use gimmicks left
  3213. [18:54] #HeaLnDeaL: heal: http://imgur.com/woUurs6
  3214. [18:54] #HeaLnDeaL: sungod: http://puu.sh/ngCfU/de6ecef888.png
  3215. [18:54] +Sunfished: I accidnelty clicked the first one and forgot it was a button
  3216. [18:54] @cbrevan: a ghost racoon w/ a dandelion wand
  3217. [18:54] +Sunfished: yeah same kb XD
  3218. [18:54] Animaignis: lol
  3219. [18:55] DrapionSwing: sungod's is dope
  3220. [18:55] #HeaLnDeaL: http://imgur.com/xmJS8Sh drizzleboy
  3221. [18:55] #HeaLnDeaL: http://imgur.com/4RQC1pe mcguffin
  3222. [18:55] +Sunfished: why thanks you :D
  3223. [18:55] #HeaLnDeaL: http://imgur.com/i4afIva Animaignis
  3224. (The poll was ended by HeaLnDeaL.)
  3225. Poll ended vote on concept art doodles
  3226. 1. HeaL http://imgur.com/woUurs6 ghost raccoon w dandelion wand and butterfly mask (3 votes)
  3227. 75%
  3228. 2. sungod http://puu.sh/ngCfU/de6ecef888.png dingdong annoys tomo with bell(0 votes)
  3229. 0%
  3230. 3. drizzleboy http://imgur.com/xmJS8Sh fallen angel (0 votes)
  3231. 0%
  3232. 4. mcguffin http://imgur.com/4RQC1pe wendigo made of stars (0 votes)
  3233. 0%
  3234. 5. anima http://imgur.com/i4afIva Armor represents defenses (1 vote)
  3235. 25%
  3236. 6. Tries to look ghostly. Slightly ninja-ish. (0 votes)
  3237. 0%
  3238. [18:55] #HeaLnDeaL: redoing poll
  3239. [18:55] Animaignis: 4 votes \o/ seems legit
  3240. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  3241. (A poll was started by HeaLnDeaL.)
  3242. [18:56] @cbrevan: the naughty mode lmao
  3243. [18:56] DrapionSwing: Mcguffin and sungods is dope
  3244. [18:56] DrapionSwing: Like really dope
  3245. [18:56] Animaignis: mine is weed
  3246. [18:56] #HeaLnDeaL: I literally made mine in 5 minutes from concept to end
  3247. [18:56] Animaignis: :P
  3248. [18:56] DrapionSwing: Naughty mode xD
  3249. [18:56] #HeaLnDeaL: ye sungod's is amazing : )
  3250. [18:56] +Sunfished: danke
  3251. [18:57] DrapionSwing: HeaLnDeaL what did you make your pic in?
  3252. [18:57] Mcguffin: Thanks!
  3253. [18:57] Animaignis: dank af
  3254. ‽DeathlyPlays joined
  3255. [18:57] #HeaLnDeaL: I just used paint.net and my touch screen comp w/ stylus
  3256. [18:57] DrapionSwing: oh
  3257. [18:58] Animaignis: lol
  3258. Air WinD left
  3259. [18:58] #HeaLnDeaL: fyi, winner is allowed to touch up their art if they want
  3260. FullMetalDragon276 left
  3261. [18:59] DrapionSwing: Who is sungod?
  3262. [18:59] #HeaLnDeaL: Sunfished
  3263. [18:59] %KhosroTheGreat: sunfished
  3264. [18:59] Animaignis: ^
  3265. [18:59] DrapionSwing: oh
  3266. [18:59] DrapionSwing: i knew that
  3267. [18:59] Animaignis: mmhmm
  3268. [18:59] +Sunfished: :D
  3269. [18:59] @cbrevan: sunfished is one of our three resident gods
  3270. [18:59] @cbrevan: along w/ healgod and DJGOD
  3271. [18:59] Animaignis: lol
  3272. [18:59] @cbrevan: especially DJGOD
  3273. [18:59] Snorlax_in_the_way: tbf
  3274. [19:00] Snorlax_in_the_way: i was looking for sungod
  3275. [19:00] DrapionSwing: So basically
  3276. [19:00] +Twix: what does rebound bounce back
  3277. [19:00] @cbrevan: anything magic bounce would
  3278. [19:00] capmono ftw: only on the switch tho
  3279. [19:00] +Twix: oh
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  3281. [19:01] %KhosroTheGreat: guys reaper got to semis in CAP Mono tour
  3282. Drizzleboy left
  3283. [19:01] %KhosroTheGreat: with steel mono and ddance navi
  3284. [19:01] #HeaLnDeaL: closing poll and doing finals in 2 min
  3285. [19:01] DrapionSwing: Sunfished how'd you make your design so well?
  3286. [19:01] Animaignis: lol
  3287. [19:01] Animaignis: yus plz
  3288. [19:01] Animaignis: do tell
  3289. [19:02] DrapionSwing: ^
  3290. [19:02] %KhosroTheGreat: sungod = godly
  3291. [19:02] %KhosroTheGreat: it's that simple
  3292. [19:02] +Sunfished: It's quite a tale
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  3294. [19:02] +Sunfished: back in elementary, whenever my teacher got mad at someone, she would ring a bell in their face
  3295. [19:02] +Sunfished: I believe the same thing would happen to tomo
  3296. [19:03] Animaignis: \o/
  3297. [19:03] DrapionSwing: I'm actually so fcking done
  3298. [19:03] +Sunfished: my #inspiration
  3299. (The poll was ended by HeaLnDeaL.)
  3300. Poll ended vote on concept art doodles
  3301. 1. HeaL http://imgur.com/woUurs6 ghost raccoon w dandelion wand and butterfly mask (5 votes)
  3302. 33%
  3303. 2. sungod http://puu.sh/ngCfU/de6ecef888.png dingdong annoys tomo with bell(6 votes)
  3304. 40%
  3305. 3. drizzleboy http://imgur.com/xmJS8Sh fallen angel (0 votes)
  3306. 0%
  3307. 4. mcguffin http://imgur.com/4RQC1pe wendigo made of stars (2 votes)
  3308. 13%
  3309. 5. anima http://imgur.com/i4afIva Armor represents defenses Tries to look ghostly Slightly ninja-ish. (2 votes)
  3310. 13%
  3311. [19:03] #HeaLnDeaL: k... so top two move on
  3312. [19:03] capmono ftw: naughty mode!!
  3313. [19:03] DrapionSwing: What's the name of the mon?
  3314. [19:03] capmono ftw: oh
  3315. [19:03] DrapionSwing: Have we decided?
  3316. [19:03] Animaignis: no
  3317. [19:04] +Sunfished: yay!
  3318. [19:04] +Sunfished: name the pre-evo Ding and the current mon Dong
  3319. [19:04] +Sunfished: :^D
  3320. [19:04] DrapionSwing: omg
  3321. [19:04] DrapionSwing: no
  3322. [19:04] DrapionSwing: xD
  3323. [19:04] #HeaLnDeaL: heal http://imgur.com/woUurs6
  3324. [19:04] #HeaLnDeaL: sungod http://puu.sh/ngCfU/de6ecef888.png
  3325. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  3326. (A poll was started by HeaLnDeaL.)
  3327. Iron Caliber joined
  3328. [19:04] DrapionSwing: Klink Klang
  3329. [19:05] DrapionSwing: Ghosberu
  3330. [19:05] DrapionSwing: Japanese for ghost bell lel
  3331. [19:05] Animaignis: lol
  3332. AkyroTheVoid left
  3333. [19:06] DrapionSwing: Ghosberu use naughty mode
  3334. [19:06] DrapionSwing: now use tail whip!
  3335. [19:06] Animaignis: o_0
  3336. [19:06] %KhosroTheGreat: totally not name poll jump
  3337. [19:06] Blawado: naughty mode ?
  3338. [19:06] Blawado: wtf
  3339. [19:06] @cbrevan: how is ghosberu japanese
  3340. [19:07] DrapionSwing: It's not full japanese
  3341. [19:07] Animaignis: .-.
  3342. [19:07] DrapionSwing: Beru = bell
  3343. [19:07] @cbrevan: "gho" isn't even a character in japanese
  3344. (The poll was ended by HeaLnDeaL.)
  3345. Poll ended vote on concept art doodles
  3346. 1. HeaL http://imgur.com/woUurs6 ghost raccoon w dandelion wand and butterfly mask (2 votes)
  3347. 20%
  3348. 2. sungod http://puu.sh/ngCfU/de6ecef888.png dingdong annoys tomo with bell(8 votes)
  3349. 80%
  3350. Clearly joined
  3351. [19:07] #HeaLnDeaL: grats sungod!
  3352. [19:07] +Sunfished: yay!
  3353. Clearly left
  3354. [19:07] DrapionSwing: "Gōsuto" is ghost
  3355. [19:07] %KhosroTheGreat: gratz
  3356. [19:07] +Sunfished: heal yours was a good concept :D
  3357. [19:07] capmono ftw: or yuurei
  3358. [19:07] DrapionSwing: But Gosutoberu is ugly
  3359. Clearly joined
  3360. [19:07] +Sunfished: That's if you romanize the name
  3361. [19:07] %KhosroTheGreat: http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-cap-334172651support reaper in CAP mono tour semis
  3362. -lost 3 minutes in my log since I didn’t save-
  3363. [19:10] #HeaLnDeaL: ...
  3364. [19:10] %KhosroTheGreat: so first port of call is wisp
  3365. [19:10] Animaignis: i mean, lookit dem legs
  3366. [19:10] DrapionSwing: ^
  3367. [19:10] %KhosroTheGreat: hjk random af
  3368. [19:11] DrapionSwing: U wot?
  3369. [19:11] @cbrevan: competitive movesets breh
  3370. [19:11] DrapionSwing: Look at naughty mode.
  3371. [19:11] Animaignis: yes
  3372. [19:11] Ria: Is there a list of competitive moves?
  3373. [19:11] %KhosroTheGreat: hjk isn't competitive
  3374. [19:11] @cbrevan: hjk is trash w/ 55 base attack
  3375. Keskas and capmono ftw left
  3376. [19:11] Animaignis: its flavour
  3377. [19:11] DrapionSwing: #coverage
  3378. [19:11] DrapionSwing: xD
  3379. [19:11] %KhosroTheGreat: so
  3380. [19:11] DrapionSwing: Psychic
  3381. [19:11] %KhosroTheGreat: wisp?
  3382. [19:11] Animaignis: It needs Hyper Beam
  3383. [19:11] %KhosroTheGreat: Guys focus
  3384. [19:11] DrapionSwing: Khos I think twave over wisp
  3385. [19:12] DrapionSwing: I can't imagine a bell throwing fire balls at me
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  3387. [19:12] @cbrevan: ani we're not doing flavour moves yet
  3388. [19:12] DrapionSwing: with its mind?
  3389. [19:12] Animaignis: alrite
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  3391. [19:12] DrapionSwing: Twave is like a shock from the ringing
  3392. [19:12] %KhosroTheGreat: guys let's not think so much about flavor as much as competitive viability
  3393. [19:12] Animaignis: Heal Bell, Shadow Ball, Moonblast, REcover
  3394. [19:12] @cbrevan: lets not give it twave imo
  3395. [19:12] @cbrevan: enough things get skillwave already
  3396. [19:12] Animaignis: no Twave imo
  3397. [19:12] Mcguffin: WoW it's a ghost
  3398. [19:12] #HeaLnDeaL: I think recover makes it too much better than mega sab
  3399. [19:12] Animaignis: looks so ghostly
  3400. [19:13] %KhosroTheGreat: could we give it something like morning sun?
  3401. [19:13] Animaignis: .-.
  3402. [19:13] DrapionSwing: Morning sun 0_o?
  3403. [19:13] #HeaLnDeaL: or moonlight
  3404. [19:13] %KhosroTheGreat: ^
  3405. [19:13] Animaignis: yes Moonlight better
  3406. [19:13] %KhosroTheGreat: moonlight much better
  3407. [19:13] #HeaLnDeaL: idk, better than recover at least
  3408. [19:13] DrapionSwing: I think draining kiss as recovery option.
  3409. [19:13] #HeaLnDeaL: I'm not 100% sold tho
  3410. [19:13] %KhosroTheGreat: let's take moves 1 at a time
  3411. [19:14] #HeaLnDeaL: draining kiss is kinda week
  3412. [19:14] @cbrevan: draining kiss is very underwhelming
  3413. [19:14] #HeaLnDeaL: *weak
  3414. [19:14] Animaignis: true
  3415. [19:14] DrapionSwing: But moonlight
  3416. [19:14] %KhosroTheGreat: d-kiss is not really competitive enough
  3417. [19:14] %KhosroTheGreat: thoughts on wisp?
  3418. [19:14] Animaignis: eh
  3419. [19:14] DrapionSwing: Realistically should it even get recovery?
  3420. [19:14] #HeaLnDeaL: I'm torn on wisp
  3421. [19:14] @cbrevan: what did we want to threaten exactly
  3422. [19:14] @cbrevan: besides tomo/gross
  3423. [19:14] %KhosroTheGreat: let's it check some stuff that we don't want it to
  3424. [19:14] Ria: I really don't think it should get good recovery
  3425. [19:14] DrapionSwing: ^
  3426. [19:14] #HeaLnDeaL: tomo, gross, krill, colo
  3427. [19:15] @cbrevan: okay
  3428. [19:15] %KhosroTheGreat: May have to go soon
  3429. [19:15] %KhosroTheGreat: *now
  3430. [19:15] #HeaLnDeaL: rip
  3431. [19:15] %KhosroTheGreat: sorry guys
  3432. [19:15] Reapehify: The only healing move it should get is Pain Split.
  3433. [19:15] @cbrevan: literally any kind of recovery guarantees it checks tomo/krill
  3434. %KhosroTheGreat left
  3435. [19:15] #HeaLnDeaL: I guess I'll have to take over
  3436. Aubisio joined
  3437. [19:15] DrapionSwing: Then give it draining kiss
  3438. [19:15] DrapionSwing: and not moonlight
  3439. [19:15] @cbrevan: which is pretty nice
  3440. [19:15] Ria: I'm okay with Pain Split
  3441. [19:15] DrapionSwing: ^
  3442. [19:15] Reapehify: ^
  3443. [19:15] DrapionSwing: or p-split nice one Reapehify
  3444. [19:16] DrapionSwing: Ria*
  3445. [19:16] #HeaLnDeaL: pain split seems reasonable
  3446. [19:16] Reapehify: I know it does.
  3447. [19:16] Reapehify: And with that, I'm off as well.
  3448. [19:16] Reapehify: Cheers mates.
  3449. [19:16] DrapionSwing: lol
  3450. [19:16] @cbrevan: pain split would work since krill/colo/tomo have inflated af hp stats
  3451. [19:16] DrapionSwing: seeya
  3452. [19:16] Animaignis: Main Split for dayz
  3453. Reapehify left
  3454. [19:16] Animaignis: Pain*
  3455. [19:16] #HeaLnDeaL: okay, so who does NOT want pain split
  3456. [19:16] DrapionSwing: I think it should get energy ball
  3457. Reapehify joined
  3458. [19:17] Candle Jerk: It's a ghost, it's almost mandatory for it to have Pain Split
  3459. [19:17] #HeaLnDeaL: we're doing competitive moves, not flavor atm
  3460. [19:17] Animaignis: look at Chimecho's and Bronzong's movepools for reference
  3461. [19:17] DrapionSwing: ^they're both psychic types
  3462. [19:17] +Sunfished: I don't think you should consider its design/typing when you're making movepools, I think
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  3464. [19:18] DrapionSwing: I think design is important in moves
  3465. [19:18] Reapehify: You should consider its egg groups.
  3466. LordZig left
  3467. [19:18] #HeaLnDeaL: you can for movepools,not for movesets
  3468. [19:18] +Sunfished: oh
  3469. [19:18] #HeaLnDeaL: we're doing movesets right now
  3470. [19:18] DrapionSwing: That's like trying to tell me chimeco can use hjk :L
  3471. [19:18] +Da Pizza Man: Are we seriously doing flavor reasoning
  3472. [19:18] +Da Pizza Man: lol
  3473. [19:18] #HeaLnDeaL: so no flavor right now pls
  3474. [19:18] Animaignis: i heavly dislike the Wood Hammer incident
  3475. [19:18] +Da Pizza Man: ani how was that an incident?
  3476. [19:18] Reapehify: It's a bell ghost, so fairy/mineral would be its egg type, likely.
  3477. [19:18] +Da Pizza Man: that was coverage we needed
  3478. [19:18] Animaignis: because it was bad imo
  3479. [19:18] @cbrevan: for movesets, only consider competitive usage
  3480. [19:18] DrapionSwing: HeaLnDeaL what other moves ?
  3481. [19:18] #HeaLnDeaL: shut up about egg groups
  3482. [19:18] #HeaLnDeaL: we're not there yet
  3483. [19:19] Animaignis: It threw feeling like a pokemon out the windor
  3484. [19:19] Animaignis: windw*
  3485. [19:19] DrapionSwing: HeaLnDeaL curse
  3486. [19:19] #HeaLnDeaL: competitive only discussion pls kids
  3487. Reapehify left
  3488. [19:19] Animaignis: >.> RIP my spelling today
  3489. [19:19] #HeaLnDeaL: curse is not competitive on a ghost type
  3490. [19:19] DrapionSwing: and destiny bond
  3491. [19:19] Aubisio: what are you talking about
  3492. +Deck Knight left
  3493. [19:19] Aubisio: what are you talking about/
  3494. [19:19] Aubisio: oops
  3495. [19:19] Animaignis: It should have Destiny Bond definetly
  3496. [19:20] Candle Jerk: I don't know if it needs Dbond
  3497. [19:20] #HeaLnDeaL: so far, our confirmed moves are mooblast, shadow ball, and pain split. only discuss competitive moves that are viable on a set pls
  3498. [19:20] DrapionSwing: Ok D-bond next heal
  3499. [19:20] #HeaLnDeaL: ugh
  3500. [19:20] #HeaLnDeaL: sigh
  3501. [19:20] @cbrevan: do we want any sort of coverage on steel types
  3502. [19:20] DrapionSwing: D-bond is competitive.
  3503. [19:20] #HeaLnDeaL: let's talk about wisp first
  3504. Blahblahss joined
  3505. [19:20] DrapionSwing: ok
  3506. [19:20] Candle Jerk: aprove
  3507. Kitty345 left
  3508. [19:20] Animaignis: eh Wisp would hit colo. bad imo
  3509. [19:20] Animaignis: the Guts
  3510. [19:20] DrapionSwing: Idm, but I prefer it not to get wisp.
  3511. [19:20] @cbrevan: you just
  3512. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  3513. (A poll was started by HeaLnDeaL.)
  3514. [19:20] @cbrevan: moonblast colo
  3515. [19:21] @cbrevan: and don't wisp it
  3516. [19:21] #HeaLnDeaL: wisp is primarily for mega gross
  3517. [19:21] DrapionSwing: I abstain.
  3518. [19:21] Candle Jerk: ^
  3519. [19:21] Animaignis: ah
  3520. [19:21] @cbrevan: how hard do we want to be threatened by steels?
  3521. [19:21] SamHPL: What are you guys doing?
  3522. [19:21] #HeaLnDeaL: we want scizor, ferro, and heatran to mess with us
  3523. [19:21] Animaignis: probably decently well
  3524. [19:21] #HeaLnDeaL: we're making a flash cap
  3525. [19:21] +Da Pizza Man: Don't we already hit mega meta for se stab?
  3526. [19:22] +Da Pizza Man: also who is tl right now
  3527. [19:22] DrapionSwing: If you want scizor to mess with you don't use wisp.
  3528. [19:22] Candle Jerk: aside from Megagross I believe every other Steel is supposed to be a problem
  3529. [19:22] Ria: HeaL is tl
  3530. [19:22] @cbrevan: wisp cripples ferro pretty badly
  3531. [19:22] +Da Pizza Man: no wisp
  3532. [19:22] #HeaLnDeaL: http://pastebin.com/2q6Bkh47
  3533. [19:22] SamHPL: Ghost/Fairy?
  3534. [19:22] #HeaLnDeaL: ye
  3535. [19:22] SamHPL: cool
  3536. [19:22] DrapionSwing: So is that a no for wisp?
  3537. [19:23] +Da Pizza Man: the conses voted yes
  3538. [19:23] #HeaLnDeaL: wisp is very slightly winning the polls
  3539. [19:23] DrapionSwing: Because if you want ferro and scizor to mess us up then that doesn't work.
  3540. [19:23] +Da Pizza Man: ^
  3541. [19:23] DrapionSwing: It's a good move
  3542. [19:23] #HeaLnDeaL: but scizor has BP and kills us before we wisp
  3543. [19:23] @cbrevan: it really messes up ferro
  3544. [19:23] #HeaLnDeaL: ferro is the only prollum
  3545. [19:23] DrapionSwing: Does it kill us b4 wisp?
  3546. [19:23] DrapionSwing: Whats the base stat?
  3547. Queriax joined
  3548. [19:24] +Da Pizza Man: If one person brings up flavor...
  3549. [19:24] DrapionSwing: You know I think it should get whirlpool, <<< for you Da Pizza Man :*
  3550. [19:24] #HeaLnDeaL: our stats are 90/55/90/120/102/113
  3551. DrapionSwing was muted by HeaLnDeaL for 1 hour.
  3552. [19:25] Animaignis: ;-;
  3553. [19:25] +Da Pizza Man: wait why
  3554. [19:25] Aubisio: Does it learn Wish?
  3555. [19:25] Aubisio: it should
  3556. [19:25] #HeaLnDeaL: he was taunting you
  3557. [19:25] Animaignis: So do we really want Ferrothorn and Heatran threatening?
  3558. [19:25] Aubisio: and whatsits abilities?
  3559. [19:25] Animaignis: he was joking around HeaL
  3560. [19:26] #HeaLnDeaL: yeah it wasn't funny Animaignis
  3561. [19:26] SamHPL: Does it get a boosting move like NP, CM or TG?
  3562. [19:26] #HeaLnDeaL: no boosting moves as per our concept
  3563. [19:26] Animaignis: It could have Aura Sphere or Earth Power coverage if we want select Steel types to threaten
  3564. Jetstertsyko left
  3565. [19:26] #HeaLnDeaL: http://pastebin.com/dYKBrRPD
  3566. lightninging2 joined
  3567. [19:26] @cbrevan: imo we shouldn't get any ground/fire/fighting coverage
  3568. [19:26] #HeaLnDeaL: we do not want to beat up tran, so EP is a no
  3569. [19:26] @cbrevan: either one removes on of our checks
  3570. [19:27] #HeaLnDeaL: and fire seems off limits too
  3571. (The poll was ended by HeaLnDeaL.)
  3572. Poll ended wisp?
  3573. 1. yes wisp (5 votes)
  3574. 50%
  3575. 2. no wisp (5 votes)
  3576. 50%
  3577. [19:27] Animaignis: .-.
  3578. [19:27] #HeaLnDeaL: k, it's a dead tie
  3579. [19:27] @cbrevan: no wisp imo
  3580. [19:27] Ria: lol
  3581. [19:27] Animaignis: that tie tho
  3582. [19:27] Ria: Maybe
  3583. [19:27] Aubisio: Yes wisp
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  3585. [19:27] Ria: We should discuss more moves and come back to Wisp later
  3586. [19:27] SamHPL: no imo
  3587. [19:27] Animaignis: no wisp methinks
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  3589. [19:28] +vulpix mayhem: e.e
  3590. /ds will-o-wisp, all:
  3591. Absol, Arcanine, Arceus, Banette, Blaziken, Braixen, Camerupt, Chandelure, Charizard, Charmander, Charmeleon, Chimchar, Cofagrigus, Combusken, Cyndaquil, Darkrai, Darmanitan, Darumaka, Delphox, Drifblim, Drifloon, Dusclops, Dusknoir, Duskull, Emboar, Entei, Fennekin, Flareon, Fletchinder, Frillish, Gallade, Gardevoir, Gastly, Gengar, Giratina, Gourgeist, Growlithe, Haunter, Heatmor, Heatran, Ho-Oh, Houndoom, Houndour, Infernape, Jellicent, Kirlia, Koffing, Lampent, Larvesta, Litleo, Litwick, Magby, Magcargo, Magmar, Magmortar, Mew, Mewtwo, Misdreavus, Mismagius, Moltres, Monferno, Ninetales, Numel, Pansear, Phantump, Pignite, Ponyta, Pumpkaboo, Pyroar, Quilava, Ralts, Rapidash, Reshiram, Rotom, Sableye, Shedinja, Shuppet, Simisear, Slugma, Smeargle, Solrock, Spiritomb, Talonflame, Tepig, Torchic, Torkoal, Trevenant, Typhlosion, Victini, Volcarona, Vulpix, Weezing, Yamask
  3592. [19:28] capmono ftw: c.c
  3593. HowISeeReality left
  3594. [19:28] Animaignis: imma prolly leave soon iv spent too much time on here today >.>
  3595. [19:28] Candle Jerk: Focus Blast?
  3596. [19:28] Aubisio: defog?
  3597. [19:28] Animaignis: Focus Miss*
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  3599. +Twix left
  3600. [19:28] @cbrevan: lo boosted moonblast already does a number on every steel save tran/ferro/zor
  3601. /ds ghost type, all:
  3602. Aegislash, Arceus-Ghost, Banette, Chandelure, Cofagrigus, Doublade, Drifblim, Drifloon, Dusclops, Dusknoir, Duskull, Frillish, Froslass, Gastly, Gengar, Giratina, Golett, Golurk, Gourgeist, Haunter, Honedge, Hoopa, Jellicent, Lampent, Litwick, Misdreavus, Mismagius, Phantump, Pumpkaboo, Rotom, Sableye, Shedinja, Shuppet, Spiritomb, Trevenant, Yamask
  3603. [19:28] Aubisio: Light of Ruin?
  3604. [19:28] Animaignis: Why LO?
  3605. /ds ghost type, will-o-wisp, all:
  3606. Arceus-Ghost, Banette, Chandelure, Cofagrigus, Drifblim, Drifloon, Dusclops, Dusknoir, Duskull, Frillish, Gastly, Gengar, Giratina, Gourgeist, Haunter, Jellicent, Lampent, Litwick, Misdreavus, Mismagius, Phantump, Pumpkaboo, Rotom, Sableye, Shedinja, Shuppet, Spiritomb, Trevenant, Yamask
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  3608. [19:28] @cbrevan: why wouldn't you
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  3610. [19:29] ZiggZ_COD: i just got 2nd place in a monotype CAP tourney
  3611. [19:29] +Da Pizza Man: light of ruin loo no
  3612. [19:29] Animaignis: I thought it ran more defensive to some degree
  3613. [19:29] @cbrevan: its got 113 speed and 125 special + godly stab coverage
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  3615. [19:29] Animaignis: true.
  3616. [19:29] Aubisio: What are its abilities? Is that not decided yet? I suggest Light of Ruin + Reckless
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  3618. [19:29] capmono ftw: it's got godly everything so far
  3619. [19:29] Animaignis: ^
  3620. [19:29] #HeaLnDeaL: magic bounce and infiltrator
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  3622. [19:29] capmono ftw: just saying
  3623. [19:29] Animaignis: OP
  3624. [19:29] +Da Pizza Man: No light of ruin
  3625. [19:29] +Da Pizza Man: its not even technically allowed since there is no way to get a mon with it in game legally
  3626. [19:29] +Da Pizza Man: atm
  3627. [19:29] @cbrevan: we don't need wisp to discourage steel switch ins
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  3629. [19:30] Animaignis: we r creating a monster i mean just look at that things face in naughty mode :P it knows its OP and isnt afraid to flaunt it
  3630. [19:30] #HeaLnDeaL: k, no wisp
  3631. [19:30] +vulpix mayhem: this is still going on?
  3632. [19:30] +vulpix mayhem: >..>
  3633. [19:30] Animaignis: yus
  3634. [19:30] +vulpix mayhem: jeeez lol
  3635. [19:30] @cbrevan: since the majority of steels don't like its stabs and wisp really cripples ferro
  3636. [19:30] #HeaLnDeaL: we will NOT learn will o wisp. we will NOT have fire, fighting, or ground coverage.
  3637. [19:30] Animaignis: khosro had to give up :P
  3638. [19:30] Aubisio: It needs a restricting movepool
  3639. [19:30] +vulpix mayhem: rip khos
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  3641. [19:30] Animaignis: the HeaLord has spoken \o/
  3642. [19:30] Aubisio: to make it not broken
  3643. [19:30] @cbrevan: taunt?
  3644. [19:30] Animaignis: imma leave. Can we somehow have it so we can see this later?
  3645. [19:30] #HeaLnDeaL: 113 is a fairly fast taunt
  3646. [19:31] #HeaLnDeaL: yeah I'll post in the kitch ani
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  3648. [19:31] Animaignis: we should have a flashCaps archive on the forums btw
  3649. [19:31] Animaignis: k thx
  3650. [19:31] @cbrevan: its called the cap kitchen ani
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  3652. [19:31] Candle Jerk: Psychic coverage then?
  3653. [19:31] #HeaLnDeaL: what does psychic coverage even let us hit?
  3654. [19:31] @cbrevan: mega venu
  3655. [19:31] capmono ftw: amoongus
  3656. [19:31] Candle Jerk: Mollux
  3657. [19:32] #HeaLnDeaL: hmm
  3658. [19:32] Aubisio: breloom
  3659. [19:32] Aubisio: gengar
  3660. [19:32] Aubisio: all poisons
  3661. [19:32] @cbrevan: how much do we want poisons to threaten us
  3662. [19:32] capmono ftw: well
  3663. [19:32] #HeaLnDeaL: moonblast hits breloom
  3664. [19:32] capmono ftw: fairy hits breloom and shadow ball hits gengar
  3665. [19:32] @cbrevan: shadow ball eats gengar
  3666. [19:32] Candle Jerk: well they're neutral based on typing
  3667. [19:33] Aubisio: scolipede
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  3669. [19:33] Aubisio: Its not actually weak to poison tho
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  3671. [19:33] Candle Jerk: but they could potentially wall this CAP without Ground or Psychic moves
  3672. [19:34] Ria: It's only weak to Ghost, Steel btw
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  3674. [19:34] Ria: With Bug it's only resistance (but 4x) and Dragon, Fighting, Normal immunities
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  3676. [19:36] @cbrevan: we're already neutral to poisons, so its not like they're in a position to check us really
  3677. [19:37] #HeaLnDeaL: whatever we decide, I just want fairly shallow coverage
  3678. [19:37] @cbrevan: psychic should be fine since it only hits a small handful of pokemon
  3679. [19:37] Aubisio: yeah
  3680. [19:37] @cbrevan: yeah shallow coverage is needed since the stab coverage is amazing
  3681. [19:37] Aubisio: but I think psyschock only
  3682. [19:37] Aubisio: gah spelling
  3683. [19:37] #HeaLnDeaL: energy ball or giga drain can hit krill
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  3685. [19:38] @cbrevan: honestly psychic or psyshock would be fine
  3686. [19:38] Aubisio: Give it Petal Dance
  3687. DrapionSwing was unmuted by HeaLnDeaL.
  3688. [19:38] @cbrevan: petal dance is pretty bad tho
  3689. [19:38] #HeaLnDeaL: very bad
  3690. [19:38] Aubisio: actually yeah
  3691. [19:38] @cbrevan: literally can't use it until every steel is removed
  3692. [19:39] Aubisio: What about Grass Pledge? nah actually. Leaf Storm/Tornado?
  3693. [19:39] @cbrevan: energy ball / giga drain would be fine imo
  3694. • Energy Ball Power
  3695. 90Accuracy
  3696. 100%PP
  3697. 1610% chance to lower the target's Sp. Def. by 1.
  3698. •
  3699. Priority |  Gen: 4 |  ✓ Secondary effect |  ✓ Bullet |  Target: One Adjacent Pokémon
  3700. [19:39] @cbrevan: leaf storm is an interesting idea
  3701. [19:39] Aubisio: vine whip and seed flare
  3702. [19:39] Candle Jerk: I think leaf storm is pushing it
  3703. [19:39] @cbrevan: leaf tornado is trash tho
  3704. [19:39] Aubisio: Yeah
  3705. [19:39] Aubisio: but does it really need a grass type move
  3706. [19:39] Aubisio: ?
  3707. [19:40] @cbrevan: not really
  3708. [19:40] #HeaLnDeaL: helps with kril
  3709. [19:40] @cbrevan: but it wouldn't hurt
  3710. [19:40] Aubisio: and rotom wash
  3711. [19:40] Aubisio: does it have recovery?
  3712. [19:40] @cbrevan: rotom-wash isn't taking repeated attacks anyways
  3713. [19:40] @cbrevan: it has pain split
  3714. [19:40] #HeaLnDeaL: I think we agreed on no reliable recovery. just pain split.
  3715. [19:40] Aubisio: then give it Giga Drain.
  3716. [19:40] Aubisio: oh
  3717. [19:41] Aubisio: is giga drain "reliable"?
  3718. [19:41] #HeaLnDeaL: it has kinda high HP for pain split tbh
  3719. [19:41] @cbrevan: not at all
  3720. [19:41] Aubisio: Then I think we should give it Giga Drain.
  3721. [19:41] Aubisio: gtg now, bye.
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  3723. [19:41] @cbrevan: reliable recovery are recovery moves
  3724. [19:41] capmono ftw: reliable recovery is moves like recover softboiled slack off etc
  3725. [19:41] Aubisio: pls post to CAP kitchen
  3726. [19:41] @cbrevan: we will
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  3728. [19:43] Aubisio: maybe ice coverage? bye
  3729. [19:43] Candle Jerk: I don't think it necessary
  3730. [19:43] Candle Jerk: Ice that is
  3731. [19:43] #HeaLnDeaL: did we agree on psyshock?
  3732. [19:43] Candle Jerk: kinda
  3733. [19:43] Aubisio: i think so
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  3735. [19:43] @cbrevan: i'm fine w/ psyshock psychic
  3736. [19:44] #HeaLnDeaL: and we're all fine with energy ball/giga drain?
  3737. [19:44] @cbrevan: honestly theres very little difference between the two besides hitting specific mons such as mega venu or mollux for slightly more damage
  3738. [19:44] @cbrevan: especially if unstabbed
  3739. [19:44] @cbrevan: yeah grass coverage is fine
  3740. [19:44] Ria: I'm fine with it
  3741. [19:44] Candle Jerk: the grass moves are good
  3742. [19:44] #HeaLnDeaL: chansey I guess, but without boosts still won't do much
  3743. [19:45] #HeaLnDeaL: k, so does it need any more coverage besides psy and grass?
  3744. [19:45] @cbrevan: its not doing shit to chansey even w/ psyshock
  3745. [19:45] Candle Jerk: I thought we didn't care Chansey
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  3747. [19:45] #HeaLnDeaL: only if evio is knocked off
  3748. [19:45] Aubisio: im back for 2 secsd
  3749. [19:45] Candle Jerk: well we have Magic Bounce and were Ghost
  3750. [19:45] Ria: I honestly don't know why Chansey is being brought up
  3751. [19:45] Candle Jerk: what is it going to do
  3752. [19:45] @cbrevan: nah even if evio is gone it still caps at 40% w/ lo
  3753. [19:46] JDragon6299: how exactly do these battle ELO rankings work???
  3754. [19:46] +vulpix mayhem: they go up when you win e.e
  3755. [19:46] #HeaLnDeaL: so any more coverage? or we good here?
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  3757. [19:46] JDragon6299: no but like the one for the battle
  3758. [19:46] JDragon6299: not your individual ELO
  3759. [19:47] Candle Jerk: I think Psychic and Grass are god enough
  3760. [19:47] lightninging2: it could outstall it lmao
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  3762. Coverage for Ghost + Fairy:
  3763. Super Effective: Dark, Dragon, Fighting, Ghost, Psychic
  3764. Neutral: Bug, Electric, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Grass, Ground, Ice, Normal, Poison, Rock, Steel, Water
  3765. Resists: None
  3766. Immunities: None
  3767. [19:47] Aubisio: what's it going to be called?
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  3769. [19:48] @cbrevan: haven't gotten to that stage yet
  3770. [19:48] Candle Jerk: Gloombell
  3771. [19:48] #HeaLnDeaL: k, so our moves are moonblast, shadow ball, pain split, giga drain, energy ball, psyshock, psychic
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  3773. [19:48] JDragon6299: what's the typing???
  3774. [19:48] #HeaLnDeaL: any other non-attacking competitive moves we want? wisp? taunt?
  3775. [19:48] #HeaLnDeaL: ghost/fairy
  3776. [19:48] Candle Jerk: Heal Bell
  3777. [19:48] Ria: eh
  3778. [19:48] @cbrevan: taunt would be nice tbh
  3779. [19:48] Ria: I like Taunt
  3780. [19:48] JDragon6299: nice, I say give it wisp then
  3781. [19:49] @cbrevan: if we don't want to lose to any generic special wall
  3782. [19:49] #HeaLnDeaL: taunt screws ferro a bit
  3783. [19:49] Ria: Taunt won't make anything broken anyway
  3784. [19:49] Candle Jerk: taunt I think is an absolute
  3785. [19:49] @cbrevan: gyro one shots it no matter what
  3786. [19:49] #HeaLnDeaL: I guess
  3787. [19:49] #HeaLnDeaL: hmm
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  3789. [19:49] #HeaLnDeaL: just let's specifically say wut taunt does
  3790. [19:50] JDragon6299: but why taunt when if on a ferro that almost forces him to use your type weakness
  3791. [19:50] Aubisio: Is this like Mega-Chimecho or what
  3792. [19:50] Candle Jerk: we want ferro to threaten us
  3793. [19:50] JDragon6299: why tho???
  3794. [19:50] Candle Jerk: this is to stop Tomohawk
  3795. [19:50] Ria: It's a flash cap
  3796. [19:50] #HeaLnDeaL: I guess taunt stops opposing set uppers, like idk bulky gyarados
  3797. [19:51] Ria: A quickly made CAP in the chat. Isn't going to be officially added or anything
  3798. [19:51] SamHPL: Shadow Ball + HP Fire kills Ferro, right?
  3799. [19:51] #HeaLnDeaL: if tomo doesn't use prankster taunt first, our taunt stops it from doing much
  3800. [19:51] JDragon6299: but I think, a will-o-wisp is generally useful
  3801. [19:51] Candle Jerk: we have Magic Bounce
  3802. [19:51] Candle Jerk: tomo can't taunt us
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  3804. [19:52] #HeaLnDeaL: ye
  3805. [19:52] #HeaLnDeaL: so I guess we're free to taunt tomo
  3806. [19:52] JDragon6299: but can't a magic bouncer taunt us if we taunt them???
  3807. [19:52] capmono ftw: willo screws over most steel types too much
  3808. [19:52] +Sunfished: It is Bronzecho, a gen 7 mon that introduces fusion evolution
  3809. [19:52] JDragon6299: is that a bad thing???
  3810. [19:52] @cbrevan: taunt lets us beat clefable, hippo, celebi notably
  3811. [19:53] @cbrevan: as well as hard counter every chansey
  3812. [19:53] @cbrevan: stops opposing set up on us
  3813. [19:53] #HeaLnDeaL: ugh this seems so weird
  3814. [19:53] #HeaLnDeaL: since our CnC list is so small
  3815. [19:53] @cbrevan: tbh
  3816. [19:54] @cbrevan: taunt isn't affecting ferro/tran in regards to 1v1 matchup
  3817. [19:54] Aubisio: I think Taunt would make this BL0
  3818. [19:54] Ria: What is our stats again?
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  3820. [19:54] @cbrevan: since they're literally going to attack every time they're in
  3821. [19:54] @cbrevan: cause of magic bounce
  3822. [19:54] #HeaLnDeaL: ye because of mg
  3823. [19:54] #HeaLnDeaL: ninja'd rip
  3824. [19:54] #HeaLnDeaL: *mb
  3825. [19:54] @cbrevan: taunt just lets us get past some bulkier pokemon
  3826. [19:54] Aubisio: also this mon is offensive
  3827. [19:55] @cbrevan: which isn't that bad a thing imo
  3828. [19:55] #HeaLnDeaL: idk, stopping all supporters from supporting seems kinda excessive
  3829. [19:55] Aubisio: I don't think we need defensibe options
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  3831. [19:55] Aubisio: Do a poll for taunt
  3832. [19:55] @cbrevan: taunt isn't purely a defensive option
  3833. [19:55] Candle Jerk: we don't need a poll for taunt
  3834. [19:55] Candle Jerk: that's silly
  3835. [19:55] @cbrevan: in most cases its for exerting offensive pressure on defensive mons
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  3837. [19:55] Aubisio: we should vote
  3838. [19:56] #HeaLnDeaL: k, cbro, decide if we get taunt or not
  3839. [19:56] Aubisio: let the people decidede
  3840. [19:56] @cbrevan: lets discuss it more
  3841. [19:56] #HeaLnDeaL: (btw cbro is TL now)
  3842. [19:56] Aubisio: Ok
  3843. [19:56] @cbrevan: we haven't really discussed it thoroughly yet
  3844. [19:56] Aubisio: I simply fear that Taunt would make this pokemon broken
  3845. [19:57] #HeaLnDeaL: taunt messes with navi, who is on our checks and counters list
  3846. [19:57] Aubisio: Well
  3847. [19:57] @cbrevan: the big question i pose to everyone is whether or not we should be able to pressure defensive pokemon anymore
  3848. [19:57] Aubisio: we need a few checks and counters
  3849. [19:57] JDragon6299: who else is on that list???
  3850. [19:57] #HeaLnDeaL: then again, our shadow ball prolly hurts navi a lot...
  3851. [19:57] @cbrevan: pretty much every steel that can take a shadow ball
  3852. [19:57] Aubisio: whatsits stats
  3853. [19:57] #HeaLnDeaL: heatran, scizor, navi, ferro
  3854. [19:57] SamHPL: 252 SpA Life Orb Magikarp Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Naviathan: 230-270 (56 - 65.8%)
  3855. [19:57] SamHPL: I changed the stats lol
  3856. [19:57] @cbrevan: ghost/fairy, magic bounce + infiltrate her, 90/55/90/125/102/113 (575 BST)
  3857. [19:57] @cbrevan: +HeaLnDeaL: concept:
  3858. [19:58] @cbrevan: c/p fail w/e
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  3860. [19:58] #HeaLnDeaL: does bulky navi run sp def EVs? idk
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  3862. [19:58] #HeaLnDeaL: if it does it can get a CM up and still win... barely
  3863. [19:59] @cbrevan: oh
  3864. [19:59] Aubisio: 252 SpA Life Orb Gloombell Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Naviathan: 235-278 (57.3 - 67.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
  3865. [19:59] #HeaLnDeaL: but only if we don't have taunt
  3866. [19:59] @cbrevan: its still cleanly 2hkoed by shadow ball
  3867. [19:59] @cbrevan: assuming lo
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  3869. [19:59] @cbrevan: taunt would be able to run lefties + taunt to beat it
  3870. [19:59] Aubisio: I don't think it needs taunt to stop navi
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  3872. [19:59] JDragon6299: does it have any stat boosters???
  3873. [19:59] @cbrevan: no
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  3875. [20:00] Aubisio: 4 SpA Naviathan Flash Cannon vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Gloombell: 164-194 (51 - 60.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  3876. [20:00] #HeaLnDeaL: you're missing the point
  3877. [20:00] +Twix: was cawmodore made as a counter to plasmanta
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  3879. [20:00] Candle Jerk: no
  3880. [20:00] @cbrevan: caps don't consider other caps in their creation
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  3882. [20:00] @cbrevan: and caw was made long before plasmanta
  3883. [20:00] +Twix: alright
  3884. [20:00] Aubisio: outspeeds and KOS
  3885. [20:01] #HeaLnDeaL: if navi has some sp def investment, it can take a shodow ball, CM once, recover until safe, and CM again... sad thing tho is the def drop
  3886. [20:01] +Twix: caw does counter it though right
  3887. [20:01] Aubisio: Heck, Gloombell practically wins
  3888. [20:01] @cbrevan: plasmanta can actually act as a decent caw check
  3889. [20:01] @cbrevan: through hp fire
  3890. [20:01] +Twix: ah hp fire
  3891. [20:01] @cbrevan: defensive sets can also haze away the boost and take an acro
  3892. [20:01] @cbrevan: its a very soft check tho
  3893. [20:02] +Twix: how much does +6 drain punch do
  3894. [20:02] #HeaLnDeaL: less than acro
  3895. [20:02] SamHPL: +6 252 Atk Cawmodore Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 154+ Def Plasmanta: 88-104 (27.1 - 32%)
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  3897. [20:04] Ria: okay I got distracted
  3898. [20:04] Ria: what was the original topic about again? Yes or no to Taunt?
  3899. [20:04] #HeaLnDeaL: ye
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  3901. [20:04] @cbrevan: does anyone else have anything to say about taunt?
  3902. [20:04] @cbrevan: if not i'll open up a poll on it
  3903. [20:05] #HeaLnDeaL: taunt messes with navi and other set uppers, effectively making us beat almost all utility
  3904. [20:05] Aubisio: I say np
  3905. [20:05] Aubisio: no
  3906. [20:05] @cbrevan: just for reference
  3907. [20:05] Ria: At first I was thinking "yes taunt is on like everything like sub" but now
  3908. [20:05] Ria: no
  3909. [20:05] Aubisio: Because it would make us practically broken
  3910. [20:05] @cbrevan: we already have magic bounce which denies any utility move that isn't self targetting
  3911. [20:05] Ria: Between our typing/stats/and M.Bounce
  3912. [20:05] Aubisio: exactly
  3913. [20:05] #HeaLnDeaL: ye
  3914. [20:06] @cbrevan: and taunt lets us stallbreaker some pokemon we might not be able to before
  3915. [20:06] #HeaLnDeaL: so we all agree no taunt?
  3916. [20:06] Ria: I'm on the boat of no taunt
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  3918. [20:06] @cbrevan: also
  3919. [20:06] JDragon6299: I second that motion
  3920. [20:06] Aubisio: no taunt
  3921. [20:06] #HeaLnDeaL: #donttauntheboat
  3922. [20:06] @cbrevan: its a taunt user w/ some form of recovery
  3923. [20:06] @cbrevan: that beats sab
  3924. [20:06] Candle Jerk: I'm now leaning towards no
  3925. [20:06] @cbrevan: i don't think a poll is needed for this
  3926. [20:06] @cbrevan: taunt is a no go
  3927. [20:07] Aubisio: yay
  3928. [20:07] #HeaLnDeaL: k, last move to discuss is wisp
  3929. [20:07] Candle Jerk: no
  3930. [20:07] Aubisio: no
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  3932. [20:07] capmono ftw: screws over most steels
  3933. [20:07] capmono ftw: so no
  3934. [20:07] @cbrevan: destiny bond was brought up as well
  3935. [20:07] #HeaLnDeaL: aight... so no taunt, no wisp?
  3936. [20:07] Ria: I really like Wish, but I'll have to also go with no
  3937. [20:07] Ria: wisp*
  3938. [20:07] #HeaLnDeaL: we have a really fast de bond tbh
  3939. [20:07] JDragon6299: Yes to wisp
  3940. [20:07] SamHPL: dbond is cool
  3941. [20:08] Aubisio: Destiny bond - abstain. Wish - yes.
  3942. [20:08] #HeaLnDeaL: she meant wisp
  3943. [20:08] #HeaLnDeaL: not wish
  3944. [20:08] @cbrevan: wish is a no
  3945. [20:08] #HeaLnDeaL: we are flat out not getting wish
  3946. [20:08] Aubisio: oh
  3947. [20:08] Aubisio: right
  3948. [20:08] Aubisio: recovery
  3949. [20:08] Ria: No wish, it was a typo and we don't want a good revocery
  3950. [20:08] @cbrevan: wisp turns us into a very bulky wall
  3951. [20:08] Aubisio: Destiny bond- thoughts?
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  3953. [20:09] #HeaLnDeaL: I don't mind it, I just don't like it either (d bond)
  3954. [20:09] Candle Jerk: what would be the arguments against DBond
  3955. [20:09] #HeaLnDeaL: we're fast and can abuse it really well
  3956. [20:09] @cbrevan: it lets us get past checks and counters w/ our fast speed
  3957. [20:09] Aubisio: a better chance for KO
  3958. [20:09] Aubisio: I think yes
  3959. [20:09] @cbrevan: coverage is already kinda ass so there'd be no reason not to run it
  3960. [20:09] Ria: Destiny Bond is pretty situational imo. I'll go with yes
  3961. [20:09] Aubisio: because I don't think its that worth giving up other moverslots for it
  3962. [20:09] Aubisio: and what ria said
  3963. [20:10] #HeaLnDeaL: I think it would be worth forgoing coverage since our coverage is meh
  3964. [20:10] JDragon6299: d-bond would be cool, but you would want to have some speed attached to it
  3965. [20:10] @cbrevan: i'd drop psychic for it honestly
  3966. [20:10] #HeaLnDeaL: might not have 100% usage, but more than 30% prolly
  3967. [20:10] Candle Jerk: do we want any boosting moves like Calm Mind?
  3968. [20:10] Aubisio: yes anyways imo
  3969. [20:10] @cbrevan: we have 113 speed JDragon6299
  3970. [20:10] @cbrevan: no boosting moves
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  3972. [20:10] Ria: I'm against boosting moves
  3973. [20:10] capmono ftw: being able to hit mega venu/ mollux for slightly extra damage
  3974. [20:10] JDragon6299: do we have good health, def or SpD???
  3975. [20:11] capmono ftw: is definitely not better than running Dbond
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  3977. [20:11] @cbrevan: or kill any slow steel type?
  3978. [20:11] Aubisio: 90/55/90/125/102/113 stats
  3979. [20:11] #HeaLnDeaL: blah, I'm no to d bond I guess
  3980. [20:11] Aubisio: so 90/90/102 bulk
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  3982. [20:11] capmono ftw: no dbond
  3983. [20:11] Aubisio: actually
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  3985. [20:11] Aubisio: no dbond
  3986. [20:11] Aubisio: jump on the bondwagon
  3987. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  3988. (A poll was started by cbrevan.)
  3989. [20:11] #HeaLnDeaL: k, any last competitive moves to discuss?
  3990. [20:11] @cbrevan: voltturn?
  3991. [20:11] Candle Jerk: TWave?
  3992. [20:11] capmono ftw: trick?
  3993. [20:11] JDragon6299: Hex
  3994. [20:11] Aubisio: healing wish?
  3995. [20:11] @cbrevan: since coverage is ass
  3996. [20:12] @cbrevan: we don't have wisp JDragon6299
  3997. [20:12] Aubisio: encore?
  3998. [20:12] @cbrevan: so hex would be bad
  3999. [20:12] JDragon6299: but if we have tWave or toxic
  4000. [20:12] @cbrevan: we didn't want taunt because it would neuter utility
  4001. [20:12] #HeaLnDeaL: we will auto get toxic.
  4002. [20:12] @cbrevan: encore would do the same
  4003. [20:12] Aubisio: heal bell? makes sense
  4004. [20:12] Ria: We do have Toxic
  4005. [20:12] JDragon6299: so toxic hex
  4006. [20:12] Ria: eh
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  4008. [20:12] Aubisio: dual screens?
  4009. [20:12] #HeaLnDeaL: toixc hex is bad
  4010. [20:12] @cbrevan: no twave because screw skillwave
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  4012. [20:12] JDragon6299: pourquoi
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  4014. [20:12] @cbrevan: and yeah toxic hex is bad
  4015. [20:13] Candle Jerk: skillwave?
  4016. [20:13] @cbrevan: you just run shadow ball and do more damage over two turns
  4017. [20:13] #HeaLnDeaL: trick is interesting. I say no to twave tho.
  4018. [20:13] Aubisio: signal beam
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  4020. [20:13] @cbrevan: twave = skillwave
  4021. [20:13] Ria: Thunderwave = Skillwave
  4022. [20:13] Aubisio: LOL
  4023. [20:13] @cbrevan: trick seems fine imo
  4024. [20:13] @cbrevan: its not like anyone is scarfing it
  4025. [20:13] Aubisio: yes trick
  4026. [20:13] capmono ftw: i dont think a choice set on this would be good
  4027. [20:13] @cbrevan: so it'd just be some specs set
  4028. [20:13] Aubisio: Actually
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  4030. [20:13] Candle Jerk: heal bell then?
  4031. [20:13] Aubisio: i might scarf/specs it
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  4033. [20:13] capmono ftw: lo would pretty much always be better
  4034. [20:13] @cbrevan: which prob isn't any good
  4035. [20:13] Ria: I know I'll scarf it
  4036. [20:13] Aubisio: Heal Bell? it is a bell, after all
  4037. [20:13] #HeaLnDeaL: heal bell seems OO, but wynaut
  4038. [20:13] Ria: But that's another story
  4039. [20:14] @cbrevan: heal bell would be fine
  4040. [20:14] Ria: Heal Bell is fine
  4041. [20:14] Aubisio: dual screens? yes heal bell btw
  4042. [20:14] @cbrevan: someone mentioned healing wish before
  4043. [20:14] #HeaLnDeaL: healing our team doesn't mess with our checks and counters, and stops tomo from spamming toxic I guess
  4044. [20:14] Aubisio: yes
  4045. [20:14] @cbrevan: i'd be fine w/ that
  4046. [20:14] Candle Jerk: how about Memento?
  4047. [20:14] Aubisio: Nah
  4048. [20:14] Aubisio: I'm for healing wish tho
  4049. [20:14] @cbrevan: memento on the gross
  4050. [20:14] @cbrevan: sweep w/ caw
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  4052. [20:14] @cbrevan: memento on any steel but sharp/tran
  4053. [20:15] @cbrevan: sweep w/ caw
  4054. [20:15] JDragon6299: memento? really?
  4055. [20:15] Aubisio: fast memento is practically disgustingly broken to me
  4056. [20:15] @cbrevan: not sure about memento tbh
  4057. [20:15] @cbrevan: its kinda like destiny bond in that its very situational
  4058. [20:15] @cbrevan: and also messes w/ our checks to an extent
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  4060. [20:15] Aubisio: It would be the second fastest pokemon to learn Memento
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  4062. [20:16] JDragon6299: who's the fastest??
  4063. [20:16] Aubisio: after Dugtrio (and whimsicott actually)
  4064. [20:16] #HeaLnDeaL: k, so shadow ball, moonblast, pain split, giga drain, energy ball, psychic, psyshock, heal bell, wut else? sorry, hard to keep track
  4065. [20:16] capmono ftw: trick
  4066. [20:16] JDragon6299: leech seed??
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  4068. [20:16] Candle Jerk: isn't Latios faster
  4069. [20:16] #HeaLnDeaL: trick oh yeah
  4070. [20:16] capmono ftw: no latios isnt faster
  4071. [20:16] Aubisio: healing wish
  4072. [20:16] #HeaLnDeaL: leed seed is too much io. adds to recovery
  4073. [20:16] capmono ftw: 113 > 110
  4074. [20:16] JDragon6299: I see
  4075. [20:16] Aubisio: ?
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  4077. [20:16] Ria: No to Leech Seed
  4078. [20:16] Candle Jerk: I always forget Latios's speed
  4079. [20:17] @cbrevan: leech seed is a no
  4080. [20:17] #HeaLnDeaL: so wut did we decide on d bond?
  4081. [20:17] capmono ftw: no
  4082. [20:17] Aubisio: No
  4083. [20:17] capmono ftw: also imo no to memento
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  4085. [20:17] Aubisio: ^
  4086. (The poll was ended by cbrevan.)
  4087. Poll ended destiny bond
  4088. 1. yes (6 votes)
  4089. 60%
  4090. 2. no (4 votes)
  4091. 40%
  4092. [20:17] #HeaLnDeaL: k, so shadow ball, moonblast, pain split, giga drain, energy ball, psychic, psyshock, heal bell, trick?
  4093. [20:17] capmono ftw: oh there was a poll about it
  4094. [20:17] #HeaLnDeaL: idk where those yes's came from, everyone in chat said no
  4095. [20:18] @cbrevan: yeah
  4096. [20:18] capmono ftw: yeah
  4097. [20:18] @cbrevan: i'm gonna redo it
  4098. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  4099. (A poll was started by cbrevan.)
  4100. [20:18] Aubisio: Uhm
  4101. [20:18] JDragon6299: wut???
  4102. [20:18] @cbrevan: gonna end it in two mins
  4103. [20:18] capmono ftw: who is voting for yes
  4104. [20:18] Aubisio: desicion on healing wish?
  4105. [20:18] @cbrevan: yes
  4106. [20:18] Ria: I am
  4107. [20:18] lightninging2: cmon guys vote yes
  4108. [20:18] SamHPL: yes
  4109. [20:18] JDragon6299: moi
  4110. [20:18] #HeaLnDeaL: heal wish seems a bit much
  4111. [20:18] @cbrevan: why yes to destiny bond
  4112. [20:18] capmono ftw: dbond on it is stupid
  4113. [20:19] @cbrevan: why no to healing wish
  4114. [20:19] #HeaLnDeaL: guys this poll is dumb, don't listen to it
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  4116. [20:19] @cbrevan: if someone convinces me y/n to destiny bond
  4117. [20:19] Aubisio: ^
  4118. [20:19] @cbrevan: i'll just override poll
  4119. [20:19] Aubisio: n bond
  4120. [20:19] JDragon6299: not quite, if we can sumply endure to the next turn we'll kill the enemy
  4121. [20:19] capmono ftw: no bond because it screws around with check/counter far too much
  4122. [20:19] #HeaLnDeaL: destiny bond turns us into a sneaky annoying auto-kill machine
  4123. [20:19] Aubisio: 6
  4124. [20:19] Aubisio: ^
  4125. [20:19] JDragon6299: do we have shadow sneak?
  4126. [20:20] YamiMakai: Hi Everyone! Your dictator has returned!
  4127. [20:20] Aubisio: no
  4128. [20:20] Ria: You know
  4129. [20:20] Aubisio: that would be stupid
  4130. [20:20] @cbrevan: we have 55 base attack
  4131. [20:20] Aubisio: but maybe for flavor
  4132. [20:20] Ria: I keep forgetting we gave it Magic Bounce
  4133. [20:20] JDragon6299: / any other priority moves??
  4134. [20:20] @cbrevan: you can have all the physical moves you want lol
  4135. [20:20] Aubisio: nah
  4136. [20:20] Candle Jerk: no
  4137. [20:20] capmono ftw: like dbond + magic bounce
  4138. [20:20] capmono ftw: is actually crazy
  4139. [20:20] @cbrevan: wait
  4140. [20:20] capmono ftw: also 113 speed
  4141. [20:20] @cbrevan: it is
  4142. [20:20] @cbrevan: you have to attack it no matter what
  4143. [20:20] capmono ftw: like wtf
  4144. [20:20] #HeaLnDeaL: ye
  4145. [20:20] Candle Jerk: oh eww
  4146. (The poll was ended by cbrevan.)
  4147. Poll ended destiny bond
  4148. 1. yes (8 votes)
  4149. 62%
  4150. 2. no (5 votes)
  4151. 38%
  4152. [20:21] capmono ftw: lol
  4153. [20:21] Aubisio: Yeah
  4154. [20:21] Ria: Yeah... change my vote
  4155. [20:21] @cbrevan: oh look the people have spoken
  4156. [20:21] Aubisio: thats a NO
  4157. [20:21] @cbrevan: sucks to be the people
  4158. [20:21] #HeaLnDeaL: no debond
  4159. [20:21] @cbrevan: caused no dbond
  4160. [20:21] Aubisio: oh my god
  4161. [20:21] JDragon6299: but democracy
  4162. [20:21] capmono ftw: veto
  4163. [20:21] @cbrevan: as the tl for this i have to remove the bad slate option
  4164. [20:21] JDragon6299: god damnit, this is like the UN security council here
  4165. [20:21] Ria: lol
  4166. [20:21] Aubisio: I remember this happening in AAA once, with opponent's spiritomb
  4167. [20:21] • MLG Mewking mind is gone
  4168. [20:22] #HeaLnDeaL: k, so shadow ball, moonblast, pain split, giga drain, energy ball, psychic, psyshock, heal bell, trick? wut else, if anything?
  4169. [20:22] Candle Jerk: hey in true democracy there are checks for majority rule
  4170. [20:22] Aubisio: Is there healing wish or not?
  4171. [20:22] Ria: I do not know if it counts as a competitive move
  4172. [20:22] capmono ftw: healing wish is fine
  4173. [20:22] JDragon6299: dark void
  4174. [20:22] Ria: Perish Song?
  4175. [20:22] #HeaLnDeaL: not competitive
  4176. [20:22] Aubisio: Mean Look?
  4177. [20:22] JDragon6299: void???
  4178. [20:22] #HeaLnDeaL: dark void is banned
  4179. [20:22] capmono ftw: no void lol
  4180. [20:22] JDragon6299: hypnosis?
  4181. [20:22] Ria: Not a fan of Mean Look at all
  4182. [20:23] Aubisio: yeah
  4183. [20:23] @cbrevan: no mean look
  4184. [20:23] Aubisio: no mean look
  4185. [20:23] #HeaLnDeaL: mean look is bad with MB
  4186. [20:23] Aubisio: sing?
  4187. [20:23] YamiMakai: hi everyone
  4188. [20:23] #HeaLnDeaL: k so y/n to healing wish?
  4189. [20:23] Aubisio: hi
  4190. [20:23] Ria: Hi!
  4191. [20:23] JDragon6299: hey.
  4192. [20:23] Candle Jerk: I don't think we need sleep inducing moves
  4193. [20:23] Aubisio: Y for healing wish
  4194. [20:23] @cbrevan: you'd just mean look the wall that tried to recover on you
  4195. [20:23] @cbrevan: and rest talk it to death
  4196. [20:23] JDragon6299: sure
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  4198. [20:23] @cbrevan: no hypnosis
  4199. [20:23] JDragon6299: *sleep talk
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  4201. [20:24] MLG Mewking: i just belly drummed and this guy had a heart swap krillo
  4202. [20:24] capmono ftw: cop
  4203. [20:24] Aubisio: healing wish poll?
  4204. [20:24] @cbrevan: since its just a bland hax roll to try to fudge past checks
  4205. [20:24] Aubisio: or yes no?
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  4207. [20:24] @cbrevan: heal why did you think healing wish is too much?
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  4209. [20:24] Aubisio: why does krill get heart swap?
  4210. [20:24] #HeaLnDeaL: eh I'm fine with it tbh, I just don't see it getting usage
  4211. [20:24] @cbrevan: because its krill
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  4213. [20:24] #HeaLnDeaL: because krill is a bamf
  4214. [20:25] capmono ftw: voltturn?
  4215. [20:25] @cbrevan: i'd use it tbh
  4216. [20:25] CantGreggMe: because it's kriller time
  4217. [20:25] capmono ftw: screens?
  4218. [20:25] @cbrevan: healing wish is a yes
  4219. [20:25] #HeaLnDeaL: no to screens imo
  4220. [20:25] @cbrevan: uh
  4221. [20:25] @cbrevan: yeah no screens
  4222. [20:25] Aubisio: so yes to HWish, no to screens, no to voltturn? for me
  4223. [20:25] JDragon6299: protect?
  4224. [20:25] #HeaLnDeaL: k let's close up competitive moves really really soon and open up complete movepool subs
  4225. [20:25] capmono ftw: it gets protect because its a normal pokemon
  4226. [20:25] JDragon6299: I see
  4227. [20:25] @cbrevan: protect/sub/toxic are givens
  4228. [20:26] Aubisio: foul play?
  4229. [20:26] #HeaLnDeaL: no to foul play
  4230. [20:26] Aubisio: ^
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  4232. [20:26] Candle Jerk: u-turn?
  4233. [20:26] Aubisio: belly drum
  4234. [20:26] Aubisio: nah
  4235. [20:26] #HeaLnDeaL: no boosting moves
  4236. [20:26] #HeaLnDeaL: except for maybe work up, idk
  4237. [20:26] Aubisio: parting shot?
  4238. [20:26] #HeaLnDeaL: no
  4239. [20:26] capmono ftw: and harden
  4240. [20:27] Aubisio: dark pulse
  4241. [20:27] Ria: No Defog/Rapid Spin I'm assuming
  4242. [20:27] Aubisio: ye
  4243. [20:27] #HeaLnDeaL: let's not give it generically good shit anymore. it has enough.
  4244. [20:27] Ria: Yeah
  4245. [20:27] Aubisio: yeah
  4246. [20:27] +vulpix mayhem: :I
  4247. [20:27] capmono ftw: onto full movepool submissions?
  4248. [20:27] #HeaLnDeaL: defog might be fine tbh, but idk, it's a tuff one
  4249. [20:27] Aubisio: so required moves is...?
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  4251. [20:27] Ria: Honestly, I'm fine with it not getting Defog
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  4253. [20:28] Candle Jerk: with Magic Bounce I think Defog would be unnecessary
  4254. [20:28] #HeaLnDeaL: k, so shadow ball, moonblast, pain split, giga drain, energy ball, psychic, psyshock, heal bell, trick, healing wish + universal TMS (protect, sub, toxic, etc etc etc)? did I miss anything
  4255. [20:28] Ria: Thunderbolt ;)
  4256. [20:29] Ria: Naw I got no more
  4257. [20:29] #HeaLnDeaL: cbro, does that look good?
  4258. [20:29] @cbrevan: yeah
  4259. [20:29] @cbrevan: gonna be afk for like five mins
  4260. [20:30] @cbrevan: heal can you start the full movepool subs?
  4261. [20:30] #HeaLnDeaL: sure. so peeps, go submit movepools with those above moves. don't forget your egg groups too, and tutor moves
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  4263. [20:32] SamHPL: Showdown should allow us to use Custom mons, with no sprite, just to test things like this
  4264. [20:32] JDragon6299: yup
  4265. [20:32] +Sunfished: you guys better add hyper beam or it will kidnap your firstborn
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  4267. [20:32] #HeaLnDeaL: we want level up moves and the level, TMs/HMs, egg moves and groups, and tutor moves. please do not include any competitive moves other than the ones listed above, and use your better judgement for what is competitive and not.
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  4269. [20:33] Ria: How many moves do Pokemon learn on level up? Between 8-12?
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  4271. [20:33] Aubisio: can it have focus blast?
  4272. [20:33] Ria: from lv 1 to 100
  4273. [20:33] #HeaLnDeaL: no focus blast
  4274. [20:33] #HeaLnDeaL: I'd guess around 12-20, Ria
  4275. [20:34] #HeaLnDeaL: but I'm not 100% sure
  4276. [20:34] Ria: Alright, I'll go with 16
  4277. [20:34] SamHPL: Perish Song + Mean Look is not competitive, so you guys can include it lol jk
  4278. [20:34] #HeaLnDeaL: no rof
  4279. [20:34] #HeaLnDeaL: you can have perish song, no mean look tho
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  4281. [20:36] Ria: er
  4282. [20:36] Aubisio: eh
  4283. [20:36] Ria: Curse is one of those moves every Ghost gets, yeah?
  4284. [20:36] Aubisio: nah
  4285. [20:36] JDragon6299: what???
  4286. [20:37] JDragon6299: whaddya mean not all ghosts get curse?
  4287. [20:37] Aubisio: sableye does NOT learn curse
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  4289. [20:37] Aubisio: for example
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  4291. [20:37] Aubisio: gtg now so bye
  4292. [20:37] Ria: Not even by TM?
  4293. [20:37] Ria: Cya
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  4295. [20:38] JDragon6299: ciao
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  4297. [20:39] MLG Mewking: who wants to see the best play of 2016?
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  4299. [20:39] JDragon6299: sure
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  4301. [20:40] MLG Mewking: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/cap-334201706
  4302. [20:40] @cbrevan: for reference: http://pastebin.com/bWpZjicB
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  4304. [20:41] Ria: Thanks
  4305. [20:41] capmono ftw: where's willo
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  4307. [20:42] JDragon6299: you did so well Mewking
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  4309. [20:44] MLG Mewking: until i belly drummed
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  4311. [20:44] JDragon6299: can we select moves that have a chance at boosting stats???
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  4313. [20:44] Ria: Like Ominous Wind?
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  4315. [20:44] Ria: I say go for it
  4316. [20:45] #HeaLnDeaL: only is the boost chance is like 20% or under
  4317. [20:45] #HeaLnDeaL: no to charge beam
  4318. [20:46] JDragon6299: not charge beam...
  4319. [20:46] @cbrevan: no charge beam
  4320. [20:46] JDragon6299: :'(
  4321. [20:46] @cbrevan: charge beam would be bad on it and would just encourage bad sets
  4322. [20:46] +vulpix mayhem: is it done yet?
  4323. [20:46] +vulpix mayhem: .o.
  4324. [20:46] @cbrevan: like charge beam on zapdos
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  4326. [20:47] capmono ftw: charge beam toxic is good cb
  4327. [20:47] capmono ftw: what are you on about
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  4329. [20:48] #HeaLnDeaL: he's speaking of viper
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  4331. [20:48] JDragon6299: charge beam zapdos is NOt bad
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  4333. [20:48] capmono ftw: rip viper
  4334. [20:49] JDragon6299: and anyone who says otherwise can take it up with me in game
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  4336. [20:50] Ria: What was the status on Perish Song again?
  4337. [20:50] #HeaLnDeaL: just curious, who is even trying to make a movepool sub?
  4338. [20:50] #HeaLnDeaL: perish song is fine, mean look is not
  4339. [20:50] Ria: I'm making a movepool atm
  4340. [20:50] Ria: Okay
  4341. [20:50] +Da Pizza Man: wit this is still going on?
  4342. [20:51] +Da Pizza Man: wait
  4343. [20:51] #HeaLnDeaL: yes
  4344. [20:51] JDragon6299: I actually don't know how all of this is working so I'm just kinda waiting and making small talk in the mean itme
  4345. [20:51] JDragon6299: *time
  4346. [20:51] #HeaLnDeaL: doing movepools, so the last real stage
  4347. [20:51] Ria: Complete Movepool part now
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  4349. [20:51] Ria: Yeah
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  4351. [20:51] FuckingSaltyVulpix: I wish the tomo killer was real
  4352. [20:51] FuckingSaltyVulpix: e.e
  4353. [20:51] Ria: I think many of us do lol
  4354. [20:51] Ria: Or a concept like it
  4355. [20:52] FuckingSaltyVulpix: cause fuck tomo
  4356. [20:52] JDragon6299: ^
  4357. [20:52] FuckingSaltyVulpix: he's why I ran pidgeot, but now cruci came out so rip pidgeot
  4358. [20:52] FuckingSaltyVulpix: :[
  4359. [20:54] capmono ftw: hp ground on pidge
  4360. [20:54] FuckingSaltyVulpix: true, doesn't do enough though
  4361. [20:54] @cbrevan: hp ground on torn-t
  4362. [20:54] FuckingSaltyVulpix: so I just went with the next best thing
  4363. [20:54] FuckingSaltyVulpix: mega metagross z.z
  4364. [20:54] capmono ftw: 2hko then it also hits kril and clohm
  4365. [20:55] capmono ftw: but yeah really there isnt much reason to waste your mega slot on pidgey when you have torn-t sitting there
  4366. [20:55] JDragon6299: but mega-gyarados
  4367. [20:55] +Sunfished: do you guys have a list of past flash caps
  4368. [20:56] FuckingSaltyVulpix: fuck torn t
  4369. [20:56] FuckingSaltyVulpix: it's so boring
  4370. [20:56] #HeaLnDeaL: past flash caps are in the kitchen, sungod
  4371. [20:56] +Sunfished: ooo
  4372. [20:56] +Sunfished: okay I'll go take a looksie
  4373. [20:57] #HeaLnDeaL: prolly best to do a smogon search within the thread itself
  4374. [20:57] JDragon6299: the kitchen???
  4375. [20:57] JDragon6299: tell me that was some sort of joke
  4376. [20:57] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: my apologies for these terrible alts
  4377. [20:57] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: x.x
  4378. [20:58] Ria: The CAP Kitchen lol
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  4380. [20:58] +Sunfished: this is the kitchen, JDragon6299http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/the-cap-kitchen-non-competitive-discussion-goes-here.3471873/
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  4382. [20:59] JDragon6299: crap... its a legit kitchn
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  4384. [21:00] JDragon6299: i didn't seethat one coming
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  4386. [21:04] Ria: Finished level up and TMs
  4387. [21:04] Ria: Doing Egg moves and Move tutor now
  4388. [21:04] #HeaLnDeaL: : O cool
  4389. [21:04] @cbrevan: is ria the only one who's making a movepool?
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  4391. [21:05] Ria: I'm pretty sure there's one other who's doing so. I dunno
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  4393. [21:05] @cbrevan: cool
  4394. [21:05] #HeaLnDeaL: who's the other?
  4395. [21:06] Ria: I have no clue aha
  4396. [21:07] #HeaLnDeaL: the world is resting on Ria's shoulders
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  4398. [21:08] Animaignis: RIP changing direction
  4399. [21:08] Animaignis: someone needs to do something concrete 9_9
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  4401. [21:08] Aubisio: was going to make a movepool
  4402. [21:09] Aubisio: too late nao
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  4404. [21:09] Animaignis: lol
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  4406. [21:09] Animaignis: it woulld have taken me too much time to make a movepool 9_9 im slow and meticulous with them
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  4408. [21:11] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: x.x
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  4410. [21:11] Animaignis: x_x
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  4412. [21:11] Animaignis: is it just me or has CAP room been more popular lately?
  4413. [21:11] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: sigh..the fucking salt is unreal
  4414. [21:12] • Animaignis still salty over Crucibelle
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  4416. [21:12] Animaignis: nhi Jas
  4417. [21:12] Animaignis: hi*
  4418. [21:12] #jas61292: Hello
  4419. [21:12] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: same, cruci is annoying
  4420. [21:13] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: I just think giving it low kick was terrible judgement
  4421. [21:13] Animaignis: it got wood hammer, threw flavour out window with that, and isnt an awesome aztec snake god
  4422. [21:13] Animaignis: and I dont think cruci even has legs
  4423. [21:13] Animaignis: >_>
  4424. [21:13] Animaignis: gg world
  4425. [21:13] capmono ftw: when i first came into the room it averaged around 20-25 users during the day
  4426. [21:13] Animaignis: g logic
  4427. [21:13] Animaignis: same
  4428. [21:14] capmono ftw: so it has definitely become more popular recently
  4429. [21:14] @cbrevan: i remember it averaging even less when i was first starting
  4430. [21:14] @cbrevan: like 10-15
  4431. [21:14] capmono ftw: that's what its like at like 10pm for me
  4432. [21:14] Candle Jerk: well it's likely because it wasn't that long ago since Crucibelle was made
  4433. [21:14] #jas61292: Back in my day, we used to average... me.
  4434. [21:15] #jas61292: Ok, not really...
  4435. [21:15] capmono ftw: lol
  4436. [21:15] #jas61292: but... close
  4437. [21:15] Animaignis: lol
  4438. [21:15] capmono ftw: back in the days when edwinning was a driver?
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  4440. [21:15] #jas61292: Well, actually, what I would actually consider "my day" was probably before this room existed. Heck, before rooms existed period.
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  4442. [21:16] #jas61292: Man... I'm old...
  4443. [21:16] #HeaLnDeaL: very old
  4444. [21:16] Whimsicott-Mega: so this is what cap is :o
  4445. [21:17] Animaignis: rofl jas
  4446. [21:17] capmono ftw: jas the old man
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  4448. [21:17] #jas61292: God... I've been a mod here for like... coming up on three and a half years.
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  4450. [21:18] Animaignis: silly vulpix ur not supposed to accept teams from strangers in alleyways :P
  4451. [21:18] Reapehify: So jas, are you interested in updating CAP movepools or not?
  4452. [21:18] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: he said it was a good team, lies s.s
  4453. [21:19] Animaignis: all high level CAP dudes r so old o_0
  4454. [21:19] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: it barely has hazard removal.
  4455. [21:19] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: lol
  4456. [21:19] Animaignis: rofl
  4457. [21:19] Animaignis: Excadrill only?
  4458. [21:19] #jas61292: I have nothing against it if it is part of a general policy shift towards that kind of thing
  4459. [21:19] Animaignis: Volt Switch needs to be added for flavour consistancy
  4460. [21:19] #HeaLnDeaL: Ria, how's it going?
  4461. [21:19] Reapehify: A general policy shift?
  4462. [21:19] Animaignis: to krillo, plasmanta, maybe cyclohm
  4463. [21:20] Reapehify: Definitely Cyclohm.
  4464. [21:20] Ria: Here is what I got so far
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  4466. [21:20] • Animaignis shud stop eating fudge or il get fat >_>
  4467. [21:20] #jas61292: I mean, just changing policy so that we actually want to keep them updated with the CAP meta. If we don't really care about doing that, I wouldn't want to do it just to do it.
  4468. [21:20] • Reapehify already is fat
  4469. [21:20] Animaignis: but it so gud :I
  4470. [21:20] Ria: I'm pretty sure I'm not missing a competitive move
  4471. [21:20] Ria: http://pastebin.com/91XqmTea
  4472. [21:20] • DONE WITH MONOTYPE should start actually eating food
  4473. [21:20] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: e.e
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  4475. [21:20] #jas61292: That said, I still would only want to see new moves from new gens added. If we didn't want something at the time, I don't think we should add it later.
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  4477. [21:20] +Sunfished: hyper beam yasss
  4478. [21:20] Animaignis: What about Shadow Sneak for flavor Ria?
  4479. [21:20] Animaignis: Hyper Beam 4 dayz
  4480. [21:21] Animaignis: And Krillowat also needs Scald
  4481. [21:21] Ria: It's there
  4482. [21:21] Animaignis: must have read over it
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  4484. [21:21] Ria: Egg Moves, line 74
  4485. [21:21] Animaignis: and is there any chance of removing the incompatibility of Argho Bulk Up and Recover?
  4486. [21:21] #HeaLnDeaL: looks good ria, except tbolt
  4487. [21:21] Ria: I thought so
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  4489. [21:21] Animaignis: Maybe Memento instead of Healing Wish?
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  4491. [21:21] Animaignis: or both?
  4492. [21:22] #HeaLnDeaL: naw we said no to memento
  4493. [21:22] Animaignis: looks good otherwise then
  4494. [21:22] Animaignis: alrite
  4495. [21:22] Reapehify: No, I completely agree with that jas. I'm talking about TMs, tutor moves, and egg moves for Gen 6. Completely objective, completely competitive, and completely reasonable.
  4496. [21:23] Animaignis: I understand that. But I still think Argho's incompatibility should be updated
  4497. [21:23] +Sunfished: jump kick lmao
  4498. [21:23] @cbrevan: gtg
  4499. [21:23] Animaignis: bye
  4500. [21:23] @cbrevan: heal its all yours
  4501. [21:23] #HeaLnDeaL: rip cbro
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  4503. [21:23] #HeaLnDeaL: I'll miss you
  4504. [21:23] Ria: Have you seen the art lol
  4505. [21:23] #HeaLnDeaL: forever
  4506. [21:23] @cbrevan: same
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  4508. [21:23] #HeaLnDeaL: sunfished made the art
  4509. [21:23] Reapehify: And I wouldn't mess with with restrictions, like Necturna's Sketch or Arghonaut's Bulk Up/Recover. Those are individual issues.
  4510. [21:23] Ria: http://pastebin.com/6nYdFRJF
  4511. [21:23] Ria: is the updated link if needed
  4512. [21:23] #jas61292: Really... the biggest things I am concerned about are things that would massively change how things are used competitively. Like Volt Switch and Scald for Kril. I don't know how I would feel about it.
  4513. [21:24] #HeaLnDeaL: aight looks good ria
  4514. [21:24] #HeaLnDeaL: I'll post in the kitchen
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  4516. [21:24] Animaignis: yayy
  4517. [21:24] +Sunfished: what name is it tho
  4518. [21:24] Animaignis: o_0
  4519. [21:24] #HeaLnDeaL: oh yeah
  4520. [21:24] Ria: Ah yeah
  4521. [21:24] #HeaLnDeaL: we need a name
  4522. [21:24] • Animaignis was just about to say "clutch flashmon end"
  4523. [21:24] Animaignis: ;-;
  4524. [21:25] Ria: lol
  4525. [21:25] Ria: This is the part everyone would love too, if they were still here
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  4527. [21:25] +Sunfished: Let's name it...
  4528. [21:26] +Sunfished: Dingdong
  4529. [21:26] #HeaLnDeaL: Bellby
  4530. [21:26] #HeaLnDeaL: dingdong is great too
  4531. [21:26] Animaignis: How about Djilluminati (djinn + illumntati) :P
  4532. [21:26] Snorlax_in_the_way: heal have you steal not finished
  4533. [21:26] Ria: I still like Bellonetta
  4534. [21:26] Snorlax_in_the_way: why is this thing called flash cap
  4535. [21:26] Reapehify: But it's not a djinn.
  4536. [21:26] Snorlax_in_the_way: its not even fast
  4537. [21:26] +Sunfished: Bellonetta omg
  4538. [21:26] +Sunfished: oml
  4539. [21:26] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: eh...I hate this ladder.
  4540. [21:26] Reapehify: Comparatively it is.
  4541. [21:26] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: so fucking much
  4542. [21:26] +Sunfished: it HAS to be Bellonetta
  4543. [21:26] Animaignis: Bellonetta sounds like bayonett but sure :P
  4544. [21:26] Snorlax_in_the_way: Reapehify, true
  4545. [21:26] Snorlax_in_the_way: but still
  4546. [21:26] Animaignis: ah wel :P
  4547. [21:26] +Sunfished: that's the joke, animaignis :p
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  4549. [21:26] #HeaLnDeaL: dingdong is still best
  4550. [21:27] Animaignis: Dongding \o/
  4551. [21:27] capmono ftw: crucibell
  4552. [21:27] Animaignis: dewdong dewgong
  4553. [21:27] +Sunfished: Or Ringading
  4554. [21:27] +Sunfished: dong
  4555. [21:27] Candle Jerk: Gloombella
  4556. [21:27] Animaignis: Ringhost
  4557. [21:27] Reapehify: Reverbell
  4558. [21:27] Reapehify: Reverberation + Bell
  4559. [21:28] Animaignis: Shadjinn \o/ the non-djinn strikes again
  4560. [21:28] Ria: Can someone post the are again?
  4561. [21:28] Animaignis: Naughost
  4562. [21:28] Ria: art*
  4563. [21:28] +Sunfished: http://puu.sh/ngCfU/de6ecef888.png
  4564. [21:28] Ria: Thank!
  4565. [21:28] #HeaLnDeaL: ringading omg
  4566. [21:28] Animaignis: its a bell sometimes with legs
  4567. [21:28] Snorlax_in_the_way: name it tomo 2
  4568. [21:28] Snorlax_in_the_way: imo
  4569. [21:28] Animaignis: Angeist
  4570. [21:28] Candle Jerk: it shoots lazers
  4571. [21:28] Animaignis: Angsty + Angel + Geist :P
  4572. [21:28] Reapehify: I like Angeist.
  4573. [21:28] +Sunfished: Kiltomo
  4574. [21:28] Animaignis: Lazap
  4575. [21:28] Reapehify: I also like Reverbell.
  4576. [21:29] Reapehify: :^)
  4577. [21:29] Ria: I could have gave it Vine Whip. :P
  4578. [21:29] Animaignis: Power Whip o3o
  4579. [21:29] Candle Jerk: serabell
  4580. [21:29] Animaignis: Bellectual
  4581. [21:29] Candle Jerk: Seraph + bell
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  4583. [21:29] Animaignis: Fiftishades
  4584. [21:29] Animaignis: \o/
  4585. [21:29] Candle Jerk: OH MY
  4586. [21:30] #HeaLnDeaL: ringading and dingdong are my favorites
  4587. [21:30] Reapehify: They're puns.
  4588. [21:30] @gday: i like dingdong
  4589. [21:30] Reapehify: :l
  4590. [21:30] Animaignis: we gotta name it Phiftishades :P
  4591. [21:30] Animaignis: that naughty mode tho
  4592. [21:30] Reapehify: Stance Change.
  4593. [21:30] Animaignis: i mean, srsly. Look at it.
  4594. [21:30] Animaignis: o_0
  4595. [21:30] Reapehify: Y'know what I'm saying?
  4596. [21:30] Reapehify: ;);)
  4597. [21:30] +Sunfished: If Dingdong is the choice that means naughty mode needs to be canon
  4598. [21:30] Animaignis: rofl
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  4600. [21:31] #HeaLnDeaL: all the modes are already canon
  4601. [21:31] +Sunfished: one is literally canon
  4602. [21:31] Reapehify: :^)
  4603. [21:31] Candle Jerk: I just noticed the legs
  4604. [21:31] Candle Jerk: oh christ
  4605. [21:31] Fratty: sup dudes
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  4607. [21:31] Animaignis: Dingdong seems legit :P
  4608. [21:31] #HeaLnDeaL: k, everyone say your favorite name
  4609. [21:31] • Animaignis just caught onto it rofl
  4610. [21:31] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: ...
  4611. [21:31] @gday: dingdong
  4612. [21:31] Reapehify: Reverbell
  4613. [21:32] Animaignis: Phiftyshades
  4614. [21:32] +Sunfished: Bellonetta
  4615. [21:32] Ria: Fayeshade
  4616. [21:32] Snorlax_in_the_way: reverbell
  4617. [21:32] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: alright, gonna kill my elo
  4618. [21:32] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: e.e
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  4620. [21:32] Animaignis: Can i vote on alts too :P
  4621. [21:32] +Sunfished: I change my name to Dingdong
  4622. [21:32] Candle Jerk: something with tintinnabulum
  4623. [21:32] Animaignis: we shud do formal poll for this
  4624. [21:32] Reapehify: Yeah.
  4625. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  4626. (A poll was started by HeaLnDeaL.)
  4627. [21:33] Animaignis: and dingdong shoots to the lead o3o
  4628. [21:33] Reapehify: It's such a troll name.
  4629. [21:33] Animaignis: if u get what i mean >:)
  4630. [21:33] Animaignis: thats its pokedex entry :P
  4631. [21:33] Reapehify: Yay.
  4632. [21:33] Animaignis: nuu
  4633. [21:33] Candle Jerk: you're all two-year olds
  4634. [21:33] Reapehify: ^
  4635. [21:33] Animaignis: v
  4636. [21:33] +Sunfished: Bellonetta
  4637. [21:34] Animaignis: dingdong best name
  4638. [21:34] Ria: I wanted to vote one Bellonetta so much but I'll have to give it to Reverbell
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  4640. [21:34] Animaignis: this poll seems conclusive
  4641. [21:34] Animaignis: Dingdong vs reverbell
  4642. [21:34] Reapehify: Yes, Reverbell vs troll name.
  4643. [21:35] Candle Jerk: tintinnaphim
  4644. [21:35] Reapehify: And troll name takes lead.
  4645. (The poll was ended by HeaLnDeaL.)
  4646. Poll ended flash cap name
  4647. 1. dingdong (5 votes)
  4648. 42%
  4649. 2. reverbell (4 votes)
  4650. 33%
  4651. 3. bellonetta (0 votes)
  4652. 0%
  4653. 4. ringading (1 vote)
  4654. 8%
  4655. 5. tintinnabulum (2 votes)
  4656. 17%
  4657. [21:35] +Sunfished: just rename it Dingidong
  4658. [21:35] Candle Jerk: that's worse
  4659. [21:35] Reapehify: Yeah.
  4660. [21:35] Reapehify: That's worse.
  4661. [21:35] +Sunfished: :^}
  4662. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  4663. (A poll was started by HeaLnDeaL.)
  4664. [21:35] Candle Jerk: nope can't make me
  4665. [21:35] Animaignis: Bangbell
  4666. [21:35] Animaignis: best name \o/
  4667. [21:35] AeroDrac: Hello!
  4668. [21:36] Reapehify: Hello!
  4669. [21:36] Animaignis: hi
  4670. [21:36] +OTTER POWER!!!: Ringabel
  4671. [21:36] Animaignis: Bellbang
  4672. [21:36] Ria: ayy Bravely Default
  4673. [21:36] +OTTER POWER!!!: c;
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  4675. [21:36] Animaignis: Braviery default? :P
  4676. [21:36] Reapehify: Braviary*
  4677. [21:36] Animaignis: .-.
  4678. [21:36] +Sunfished: this tie lol
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  4680. [21:36] Candle Jerk: Braviery defaulting on his loans
  4681. [21:36] Animaignis: my spelling sucks
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  4683. [21:37] AeroDrac: Ooh, they are tied up!
  4684. [21:37] Reapehify: Yeah.
  4685. [21:37] Animaignis: i wud vote onn my phone but im too lazy :P
  4686. [21:37] Reapehify: Good to go now.
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  4688. [21:37] Animaignis: wait Mewking might break tie
  4689. [21:37] Animaignis: nvrmind its 6-8 now >_>
  4690. [21:37] Reapehify: It's conclusive.
  4691. [21:37] Animaignis: yup
  4692. [21:37] Reapehify: :^)
  4693. Drizzleboy joined
  4694. [21:37] Master Mewking: i voted reverbell
  4695. [21:37] Reapehify: Good job.
  4696. [21:38] Animaignis: Crucibelle-Reverbell. Id ship it by name
  4697. [21:38] Reapehify: You're all grown up.
  4698. RandomBattla left
  4699. [21:38] +Sunfished: is it ree verb bell or reh ver bell
  4700. [21:38] Animaignis: i think reverb + bell
  4701. [21:38] Animaignis: so reh ver bell
  4702. [21:38] Reapehify: Re-verb-bell, Reverb+Bell.
  4703. Floette ✿ joined
  4704. [21:38] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: shoot it's alread 6:30
  4705. [21:38] DONE WITH MONOTYPE: damnit
  4706. [21:38] Reapehify: Sorry, it's how Animaignis said.
  4707. [21:38] Master Mewking: so whats a flash cap?
  4708. [21:39] Animaignis: shoot its alrieady 8:30 :P
  4709. [21:39] Reapehify: A one day CAP session.
  4710. [21:39] Animaignis: ^
  4711. [21:39] Animaignis: A flash flood + cap
  4712. [21:39] Reapehify: We create a fake cap that won't be programmed.
  4713. [21:39] Master Mewking: oh
  4714. [21:39] Animaignis: its a practice CAP, or a fakefakemon
  4715. (The poll was ended by HeaLnDeaL.)
  4716. Poll ended flash cap name
  4717. 1. dingdong (7 votes)
  4718. 44%
  4719. 2. reverbell (9 votes)
  4720. 56%
  4721. [21:39] +Sunfished: can we at least name the pre-evo dingdong
  4722. [21:39] #HeaLnDeaL: k, reverbell wins
  4723. [21:39] Animaignis: yas
  4724. [21:40] Reapehify: Yes.
  4725. [21:40] Animaignis: make it taller but thinner with short legs :P
  4726. [21:40] Reapehify: Dingdong evolves into Reverbell.
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