DF Game Club: Papo & Yo (part 1)

(07:01:07) Cheeseness: Hey beansmyname
(07:01:15) Cheeseness: Hey SirSlade
(07:01:16) beansmyname: Hey Cheeseness.  o/
(07:01:22) SirSlade: Hey Cheeseness
(07:01:33) Permafry_42: Hey SirSlade and beansmyname
(07:01:43) Cheeseness: beansmyname: How far through the game did you get? I got a reproduceable crash on the Ubiquity level and couldn't get past that :(
(07:01:43) SirSlade: Hey Permafry_42
(07:01:44) beansmyname: Hello Permafry_42
(07:02:03) psymin: Papo & Yo was on linux before wasn't it?
(07:02:07) beansmyname: I got as far as the young girl explaining that the next part will require the use of her centipede
(07:02:13) Cheeseness: psymin: It was in a Humble Bundle
(07:02:15) beansmyname: It's on Linux via a past bundle
(07:02:17) psymin: ahh
(07:02:18) Permafry_42: Which game Cheese? Papo & Yo?
(07:02:31) Cheeseness: Permafry_42: Yes. That's the topic for today
(07:02:34) flesk [~quassel@A73AA813.B182DE35.257F1711.IP] entered the room.
(07:02:38) Cheeseness: Hey flesk
(07:02:53) Cheeseness: psymin: It's also available via the Humble Store
(07:03:04) Syd: Back with a drink
(07:03:08) Cheeseness: wb, Syd
(07:03:34) Cheeseness: beansmyname: Sounds like you're farther along than I am then. I'm heading towards the temple with Lula and the Monster
(07:03:34) Permafry_42: Weird; never heard of it having linux issues, though i don't pay attention to them in all honesty
(07:04:08) beansmyname: You're almost there, then.
(07:04:13) beansmyname: I've not yet reached the temple.
(07:04:21) Syd: The Costume Quest book I ordered arrived in the mail today. It's pretty great, and bigger than I expected.
(07:04:42) beansmyname: Have you done the football field puzzle, Cheeseness?
(07:04:56) Cheeseness: beansmyname: Yeah, I'm just after that (where you need to carry a frog through a doorway
(07:05:13) Sven_Q45 [Mibbit@hide-F5A41769.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] entered the room.
(07:05:16) Cheeseness: When I throw the frog in the second drainpipe, it crashes. I haven't found a log yet, but I haven't really had time to look
(07:05:17) beansmyname: Ok. I stopped just after that next section.
(07:05:18) Cheeseness: Hey Sven_Q45
(07:05:25) Sven_Q45: Hi.
(07:05:29) Cheeseness: Are we ready to go yet, Permafry_42?
(07:05:43) Permafry_42: Yup I'm all ready now
(07:05:48) Permafry_42: Hi Sven
(07:05:50) Cheeseness: Let's do it.
(07:05:51) liorean: Ah, It's Prince of Persia's 25th birthday
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(07:06:11) Cheeseness: liorean: I thought that a couple of weeks ago
(07:06:14) beansmyname: I refuse to believe any game I used to play is 25 years old.  :)
(07:06:25) Permafry_42: K let me know when its showing
(07:06:36) Syd: It's live
(07:06:38) Cheeseness: I see it
(07:06:41) beansmyname: I see the logo.
(07:06:49) Cheeseness: Of course, I'll get an ad the moment the intro starts >_<
(07:06:54) Permafry_42: k
(07:07:12) Syd: *uses adblock with no shame* :P
(07:07:15) flesk [quassel@hide-1E215ADA.getinternet.no] entered the room.
(07:07:16) Cheeseness: <3
(07:07:23) Cheeseness: I haven't gotten around to installing it again
(07:07:28) liorean: Cheese: It was nerdcubed that tweeted it, so I won't guarantee the accuracy of his statement
(07:07:35) Cheeseness: Ah
(07:08:06) Sven_Q45: I have  problems with ads right now. Tho I HAVE a virus scanner. :(
(07:08:28) Permafry_42: Love the menu easter egg
(07:08:36) Cheeseness: There's an easter egg in the menu?
(07:08:45) beansmyname: using livestreamer to play through VLC. I didn't see any ads.
(07:08:49) Cheeseness: heh
(07:08:56) Permafry_42: when you move up or down in the menu, frogs are shown
(07:09:02) Cheeseness: Oh, apparently there's a URL you can use that will get you a HTML5 player
(07:09:05) Permafry_42: there's even an achievement for it
(07:09:11) Cheeseness: Permafry_42: Ah. I wouldn't really call that an easter egg
(07:09:26) beansmyname: I really need to upgrade my hardware. Looks great, Permafry_42.
(07:09:42) Cheeseness: Urgh, are you playing this with a game pad? :D
(07:09:59) Cheeseness: That weird unnatural camera movement
(07:10:20) silverspork [Adium@A302980A:3B832D4F:A60070C:IP] entered the room.
(07:10:24) Cheeseness: Hey silverspork
(07:10:30) Sven_Q45: The football is a little too big. :D
(07:10:32) silverspork: yo
(07:10:33) flesk: Isn't it a platformer?
(07:10:43) Cheeseness: I really like the style of the glowing imaginary elements
(07:10:43) flesk: I was going to play it with a gamepad too.
(07:10:52) beansmyname: Well, it was PS3 exclusive for a long time.
(07:10:57) Cheeseness: I've been playing with a keyboard and mouse
(07:10:59) Sven_Q45: flesk Yes that´s what I thought too.
(07:11:09) Syd: I play some platformers with a gamepad and others with keyboard/mouse. Kinda depends on how twitchy the platforming is.
(07:11:13) Cheeseness: And now it's Metal Gear Solid
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(07:11:55) Cheeseness: The moment I started playing, Mim asked if it was set in Brazil
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(07:12:52) liorean: No quite
(07:12:59) liorean: not quite even
(07:13:07) Syd: I got this game a while back but i haven't gotten around to playing it yet
(07:13:09) Sven_Q45: Is this To catch a thief?
(07:13:14) silverspork: oh that was a cool door thing
(07:13:15) Cheeseness: It's Papo & Yo
(07:13:25) flesk: Syd: Good point. There really isn't a huge difference between 3D platformers and FPSes, and I'd probably play an FPS with keyboard and mouse.
(07:13:32) Sven_Q45: @Cheese Yes I know that. ;)
(07:13:49) flesk: Not that I'm into FPSes, but Portal is close game mechanically.
(07:13:52) beansmyname: Note: there are no hats until you finish the game once.
(07:13:55) Cheeseness: Where did that hat come from?
(07:13:56) Cheeseness: Ah, right
(07:14:11) Syd: Some games I can play fine with either control method. I've beaten Psychonauts with keyboard and mouse and had no complaints.
(07:14:18) Syd: Though I may be in the minority from what I've heard
(07:14:22) flesk: Syd: Same here.
(07:14:35) Cheeseness: I've been playing Psychonauts with a keyboard and mouse as well
(07:14:38) flesk: Even beat the punching game with keyboard.
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(07:14:53) Syd: Not sure if I did the punching minigame with kb/m but I heard it's tricky
(07:15:14) Syd: I probably did at some point, because first time I played Psychonauts on PC, I didn't have a gamepad at all.
(07:15:16) flesk: Yeah, it is, but it's easier when your psy-punch is fully upgraded.
(07:15:21) kisak [kisak@hide-1E6BEB7F.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] entered the room.
(07:15:23) flesk: *psi
(07:15:27) Cheeseness: Hey kisak
(07:15:34) liorean: I really use a device to control depending on the game's feel. In this game I felt like the camera benefited from using controller. Though to be fair, I didn't try mouse and keyboard when we had gotten a few game mechanics unlocked, just at the very start
(07:15:41) kisak: g'day Cheeseness
(07:16:01) Syd: I can't handle playing twitchy 2D platformers with the keyboard, though.
(07:16:16) Cheeseness: I played SMB with a keyboard :D
(07:16:30) Cheeseness: That ball is a better size
(07:16:38) flesk: If it's just movement and jump I prefer keyboard for 2D platformers.
(07:16:39) Sven_Q45: Yes
(07:16:52) beansmyname: I like the clever ways the ropes and levers deform the environment.
(07:17:03) silverspork: yeah me too
(07:17:03) Cheeseness: Yeah
(07:17:06) silverspork: that's cool
(07:17:25) Cheeseness: It's always done in an evocative way
(07:17:41) liorean: What's happened with that ball?
(07:17:46) Cheeseness: I think it's a hat
(07:18:02) Cheeseness: For finding the second stuffed toy?
(07:18:37) liorean: You got hats for those? I don't recall any hat reward when I found them.
(07:18:43) beansmyname: Permafry_42 is hunting an achievement.  :D
(07:19:01) flesk: It still says we're playing Stacking.
(07:19:01) Cheeseness: As beans said, you have to finish the game before you get any hats
(07:19:02) beansmyname: liorean, Hats are available after completing the game once.
(07:19:03) kisak: it's almost like those boxes are heavy
(07:19:04) Syd: Fish!
(07:19:09) flesk: With special guest Lee PEtty.
(07:19:19) Syd: Oh, I'll fix that
(07:19:24) liorean: Ah. I only played through it once
(07:19:26) Sven_Q45: flesk yes
(07:19:28) Cheeseness: H aha, I should probably update the stream title, hey?
(07:20:20) Syd: Title should be correct now
(07:20:30) Cheeseness: Oh, you beat me to it
(07:20:37) Syd: Might take a refresh for the new title to show though
(07:20:39) Cheeseness: It won't update though
(07:20:39) Cheeseness: Yeah
(07:20:45) Cheeseness: Not much value in doing that
(07:21:42) Cheeseness: I wish there had've been some feedback on this stuff when playing through the game first time
(07:22:04) Cheeseness: I went out of my way to find this stuff and was a bit confused
(07:22:26) silverspork: does it not let you throw a box off the clif?
(07:22:33) Cheeseness: Nope, they're limited to the red box
(07:22:36) beansmyname: HA! Didn't even think to stack the boxes.
(07:22:51) Cheeseness: It got really laggy in this room for me
(07:23:15) silverspork: an elevator with no dudes to fight? geez
(07:23:27) Cheeseness: Oh, it's a fishbow
(07:23:28) Cheeseness: l
(07:23:29) Syd: Hah
(07:23:51) Cheeseness: I liek the way that the lines unwind for the ones that have timers on them
(07:24:00) liorean: Wow. For the first time ever I got less lag on my tablet compared to my PC
(07:25:16) Cheeseness: I kinda like that the puzzles aren't particularly tricky
(07:25:39) Cheeseness: I think you missed something, Permafry_42
(07:26:30) liorean: Hmm. You can spend candy to heal out of battle now in CQ2. Couldn't do that in my first playthrough!'
(07:26:36) Cheeseness: liorean: Nah
(07:26:43) Permafry_42: lol duh
(07:26:56) Cheeseness: There we go :D
(07:27:56) beansmyname: They're not tricky but can require a little experimentation before the solution becomes clear
(07:28:15) Cheeseness: Yeah
(07:28:52) Cheeseness: I like that it looks like he's moonwalking there
(07:29:10) Cheeseness: I felt like the boxes were cheating, so I avoided them all when I was playing
(07:29:11) silverspork: it would be cool if just one time some guy pops out of the house and says "hey, stop moving my house!"
(07:29:19) beansmyname: Cheeseness, So did I!
(07:29:26) Cheeseness: heh, opens a window and shakes a fist at you
(07:29:28) beansmyname: lol @ silverspork
(07:30:26) Cheeseness: You have to do somethign else first, Permafry_42
(07:31:10) liorean: Silverspark: I was thinking that while playing - man, the inhabitants of these shacks must be so angry at me
(07:31:35) Cheeseness: He's fast up those ladders
(07:33:40) beansmyname: Quico's now missing a shoe.
(07:33:40) Cheeseness: The tonal shift here was interestingly structured
(07:33:49) Cheeseness: No no, he's got two
(07:34:05) kisak: I count two
(07:34:22) beansmyname: Ok. He's missing a shoe on his left foot.
(07:35:06) Cheeseness: It's interesting the way that his is broken down as the game progresses
(07:36:31) Cheeseness: I like that you can queue up stuff for Lula to do
(07:36:31) Permafry_42: love the music btw
(07:36:43) Cheeseness: The music reminds me of some of Amanita's stuff
(07:36:45) Cheeseness: It's pretty nice
(07:37:38) kisak: cool story bro
(07:37:50) kisak: @ bug house
(07:38:18) Cheeseness: I missed the next cutscene and didn't spot that the grille farther back had disappeared
(07:38:29) Cheeseness: I spend ages running around this tiny area trying to work out what was going on
(07:39:42) kisak: this feels like it's being played with a gamepad
(07:39:50) Cheeseness: It sure looks like it
(07:40:09) Syd: He's definitely playing it with a gamepad, with that camera movement
(07:40:59) Cheeseness: I liek that you can't run here
(07:41:01) Permafry_42: i like using a gamepad for this game
(07:41:14) liorean: Cheese: Yeah, I spent quite a while there too
(07:41:24) beansmyname: I do too. Gamepad feels more natural for me in 3d platformers.
(07:41:32) Syd: I used a gamepad for streaming Brothers, though it's not a platformer.
(07:41:34) Cheeseness: If you like bumping into walls :D
(07:41:55) Cheeseness: I didn't go into the firt at the top here
(07:42:01) Syd: I think I've used keyboard and mouse for everything else I've streamed for the game club though
(07:42:05) Cheeseness: Looks like I didn't miss anything
(07:42:10) beansmyname: I bump into walls with kb/mouse. What's the difference?
(07:42:16) kisak: nice ... #1 instinct is go for the large animal
(07:42:29) liorean: As long as you don't have to aim something, i tend to agree. Portal and similar games are strong exceptions to favouring gamepad for platformers for me
(07:42:39) beansmyname: agreed.
(07:43:53) silverspork: what about these can you throw them over?
(07:44:07) Cheeseness: This bit made me sad
(07:44:27) liorean: Ah, the gigantic sugar cubes
(07:44:41) kisak: nom nom nom
(07:46:10) beansmyname: I want to kick her with Quico's shoeless left foot.
(07:46:31) Cheeseness: It's sad when kids upset each other
(07:46:59) beansmyname: Why? Why does she do it? Not much of a friend.
(07:47:08) Cheeseness: She also pushed him off a building
(07:47:23) silverspork: she should have seen this coming
(07:47:23) Cheeseness: Not sure that his way of dealing with the problem was really all that healthy either
(07:47:54) liorean: There's a few situations where she turns from being just a fun playmate to have a very different tone
(07:48:00) Cheeseness: Yeah
(07:48:14) Cheeseness: Does she represent Quico's inner demons?
(07:50:43) Cheeseness: Soem of Quico's mannerisms make him appear frog-like
(07:50:47) Permafry_42: missed a hat
(07:51:10) Cheeseness: This mural on the wall here is interesting
(07:51:21) Cheeseness: I interpret it as speaking to the generational impact of alcoholism
(07:51:34) beansmyname: I like it a lot. Tried to grab a screenshot but it's difficult to get a good angle on it.
(07:51:38) Cheeseness: Yeah
(07:52:06) beansmyname: I almost took one where Quico was the bottom "puppet."  Which would still work, I guess, playing of the interpretation you just gave.
(07:52:07) Cheeseness: Oh, they're coconuts
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(07:52:16) Cheeseness: Yeah
(07:52:54) Cheeseness: It perhaps suggests that the Monster's problems are ones that were inherited as well
(07:53:16) Cheeseness: I like that he picks you up if you don't drop the fruit
(07:53:35) Cheeseness: Oh, beans, when you played it, did the Monster's head go into an awkward pose sometimes?
(07:53:41) beansmyname: Yes. A lot.
(07:53:53) beansmyname: He was sniffing his right armpit.
(07:53:55) Cheeseness: :D
(07:54:28) Cheeseness: Must be a Linux bug, I guess
(07:54:36) Cheeseness: (or a bug in the Linux version of the game)
(07:54:48) beansmyname: I wonder if there's a version discrepancy between the Win/Mac/Lin versions.
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(07:55:03) Cheeseness: Could be. I'm going to reach out to support when i get some free time
(07:58:22) Cheeseness: The rainbow off in the distance is a nice touch
(07:59:11) Syd: I have tacos now. Mmmm, tacos.
(07:59:19) Cheeseness: Can I come over for dinner?
(07:59:43) beansmyname: Speaking of interesting transformations, here's yet another one.
(08:00:07) Cheeseness: Yeah
(08:00:51) Sven_Q45: I like raining in games.
(08:01:45) flesk: Did someone from Minority Media end up joining?
(08:01:50) Permafry_42: sven have you played the psn game rain?
(08:01:56) Cheeseness: flesk: Not today, but I'm hoping for later sessions
(08:02:07) flesk: Ok. That would be cool. :)
(08:02:23) Sven_Q45: What is psn game?
(08:03:06) Permafry_42: ps3 digital store game
(08:03:29) Sven_Q45: I don´t have a playstation. ;)
(08:03:33) Cheeseness: I had no idea what the floating platform was meant to be at this point
(08:03:40) Cheeseness: I spent more time fussing about it than I needed to :D
(08:03:47) beansmyname: Looks like Minority Games other titles are iOS only. :(
(08:03:56) Cheeseness:  Yeah
(08:04:21) flesk: It says on their page they're considering Android and PC for their newest game though.
(08:04:40) beansmyname: This part threw me for a bit, too.  As I couldn't figure out why the monster was so hung up on that pipe.
(08:04:53) beansmyname: Damn my pride for keeping me from the hint boxes!
(08:04:57) Cheeseness: I saw during the cutscene that a frog had jumped down there
(08:05:40) beansmyname: Thankfully, the design of the levels and artwork make it easy to get back on track.
(08:05:47) Cheeseness: Yeah
(08:05:56) Cheeseness: They feel a lot more freeform than they are
(08:06:14) Cheeseness: Or look^
(08:06:50) beansmyname: There's a lot of open space which invites exploration, but there's a very linear path through the story.
(08:06:57) Cheeseness: Right
(08:10:02) Cheeseness: The voice acting here is a bit disquieting
(08:11:32) flesk: It's kind of similar to The Last Tinker in that.
(08:11:40) Cheeseness: You've lost your shirt now right?
(08:11:45) Permafry_42: don' do drugs boys and girls
(08:12:19) beansmyname: Yeah. And the other she.
(08:12:31) beansmyname: other shoe.
(08:13:08) liorean: Here I for a while wasn't sure to do. Spent a while jumping onto the platform she's sitting on, but avoided the monster (since she told me to)
(08:13:33) beansmyname: I did the same thing. Then I thought it was time for a belly jump.
(08:13:57) Cheeseness: She hadn't really been nice or helpful so far, so I was happy to ignore her instructions
(08:14:05) Permafry_42: after this cutscene, I'll end it for today
(08:15:00) Cheeseness: Papo means father, IIRC
(08:15:04) Cheeseness: She refers to the Monster as that
(08:15:41) Sven_Q45: Yes Papa.
(08:16:20) beansmyname: Thank you, Permafry_42, for streaming.
(08:16:22) Syd: Thanks for streaming Perma
(08:16:22) Cheeseness: She says "Papo" though
(08:16:27) Cheeseness: Thanks for streaming, Permafry_42
(08:16:37) silverspork: good stream thx
(08:16:40) Cheeseness: Here's the thread if anybody wants to share their thoughts http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/15040/
(08:16:46) Permafry_42: Thanks for watching everyone!
(08:17:21) silverspork: see ya
(08:17:22) Sven_Q45: Well Papo is Portugoese.
(08:17:27) Cheeseness: Yeah
(08:17:27) Sven_Q45: I think,
(08:17:30) Cheeseness: I think it is
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(08:18:13) Cheeseness: I'll wrap up the chat log there. Thanks for coming everyone!