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  1. [10/25/2015 3:22:15 PM] fabjr23: John Paul
  2. [10/25/2015 3:22:18 PM] fabjr23: wats up mayne?
  3. [10/25/2015 3:22:37 PM] John Paul: yes man tell me about your site
  4. [10/25/2015 3:22:49 PM] fabjr23: YOu just told me you can do my site for 300 huh?
  5. [10/25/2015 3:23:05 PM] John Paul: yes tell me your requirements
  6. [10/25/2015 3:32:12 PM] John Paul: and here are some screenshots of web design and see work transactions
  7. [10/25/2015 3:32:24 PM] John Paul: you there?
  8. [10/25/2015 3:33:56 PM] fabjr23: HOw do i know thats ur account?
  9. [10/25/2015 3:34:02 PM] fabjr23: I dont see anything with your email on there
  10. [10/25/2015 3:35:42 PM] John Paul: how do i fake that?
  11. [10/25/2015 3:35:55 PM] John Paul: its my account
  12. [10/25/2015 3:36:32 PM] John Paul: hold up I’m gonna screenshot one of the transactions
  13. [10/25/2015 3:38:09 PM] fabjr23: Ok cool
  14. [10/25/2015 3:38:16 PM] fabjr23: I just want to make sure you have a strong paypal account
  15. [10/25/2015 3:42:17 PM] John Paul: here you can see its the latest payment from a client for website management/seo service, the date and everything, my paypal and contact email is
  16. [10/25/2015 3:42:35 PM] fabjr23: ok thats cool
  17. [10/25/2015 3:42:40 PM] fabjr23: verified
  18. [10/25/2015 3:42:51 PM] fabjr23: Nice to meet you John Paul the IIII lol
  19. [10/25/2015 3:42:53 PM] fabjr23: How are you?
  20. [10/25/2015 3:43:38 PM] John Paul: Im fine thank you faber, what can i call you man.
  21. [10/25/2015 3:43:54 PM] fabjr23: Fab
  22. [10/25/2015 3:44:07 PM] John Paul: ok great nice to meet you Fab
  23. [10/25/2015 3:44:14 PM] fabjr23: Nice to meet you to
  24. [10/25/2015 3:44:17 PM] fabjr23: You ready to get this work?
  25. [10/25/2015 3:45:01 PM] John Paul: yes I am, tell me your requirements, sites and designs you like, your niche, the keywords you are targeting, domain.
  26. [10/25/2015 3:45:06 PM] John Paul: let me know the dets
  27. [10/25/2015 3:46:03 PM] fabjr23: i want to make a site similar to http://www.net-a-porter.com/am/boutiques/denim/content.nap?page=DenimLandingPage
  28. [10/25/2015 3:48:05 PM] fabjr23: check this out
  29. [10/25/2015 3:48:13 PM] fabjr23: i dont see you charging me 300 for a site like that
  30. [10/25/2015 3:50:44 PM] John Paul: No its really quite easy, I will build it on wordpress because I already have the code from the commerce plats i built on wp for other clients and ill strip the css and html to create a design scheme for the sit, it’ll take me a week max, do you have a domain and hosting, its still $300
  31. [10/25/2015 3:51:12 PM] John Paul: do you have a catalog of products?
  32. [10/25/2015 3:51:15 PM] fabjr23: Yes
  33. [10/25/2015 3:51:51 PM] John Paul: how many products and do you have pics and descriptions etc
  34. [10/25/2015 3:52:00 PM] fabjr23: Yes but we will get to that later
  35. [10/25/2015 3:52:28 PM] John Paul: get to what?
  36. [10/25/2015 3:52:45 PM] John Paul: i will need the descriptions as i build the site
  37. [10/25/2015 3:52:56 PM] fabjr23: i just need the theme of the site designed
  38. [10/25/2015 3:53:00 PM] fabjr23: and i can take care of the rest
  39. [10/25/2015 3:53:02 PM] fabjr23: Now let me ask you
  40. [10/25/2015 3:53:16 PM] fabjr23: If i send a customer to purchase from you
  41. [10/25/2015 3:53:25 PM] fabjr23: can i depend on you to send me my profit?
  42. [10/25/2015 3:54:46 PM] John Paul: Do you want a theme designed or a website to be built and i don’t understand what you mean by that, the site will be built for you so the payment gateway will be controlled by you and thus all money flows into your accounts
  43. [10/25/2015 3:55:09 PM] fabjr23: A theme designed webite
  44. [10/25/2015 3:55:16 PM] fabjr23: I will update products and descriptions on my own
  45. [10/25/2015 3:55:20 PM] fabjr23: I design websites as well
  46. [10/25/2015 3:55:23 PM] fabjr23: I sell websites
  47. [10/25/2015 3:56:19 PM] John Paul: oh ok so you want me just to design psd for the site? no need for coding etc?
  48. [10/25/2015 3:56:30 PM] John Paul: why aren’t you designing this site then
  49. [10/25/2015 3:56:32 PM] fabjr23: correct
  50. [10/25/2015 3:56:38 PM] fabjr23: I cant accept payments that large
  51. [10/25/2015 3:56:47 PM] fabjr23: plus i dont have the time
  52. [10/25/2015 3:56:55 PM] fabjr23: It makes more sense for me to subcontract the work out
  53. [10/25/2015 3:57:02 PM] fabjr23: rather then sit on the computer for hrs at a day
  54. [10/25/2015 3:57:06 PM] fabjr23: I got kids and a full time job
  55. [10/25/2015 3:58:28 PM] John Paul: ok I can design psd for you, that easy. Or you can use a predetermined theme and am i getting upfront payment from you or someone else
  56. [10/25/2015 3:58:38 PM] fabjr23: Someone else
  57. [10/25/2015 3:58:46 PM] fabjr23: I am going to over charge them
  58. [10/25/2015 3:59:46 PM] John Paul: ok ill send you your cut if it goes through you.
  59. [10/25/2015 4:00:05 PM] fabjr23: This is how it will work
  60. [10/25/2015 4:00:10 PM] fabjr23: You give me price for site
  61. [10/25/2015 4:00:20 PM] fabjr23: I pre determine how much extra dollars i can charge
  62. [10/25/2015 4:00:25 PM] fabjr23: Client pays you for job
  63. [10/25/2015 4:00:36 PM] fabjr23: Then you pay me...Can you handle that or is that too much for you?
  64. [10/25/2015 4:00:48 PM] John Paul: thats great for me
  65. [10/25/2015 4:00:49 PM] fabjr23: Do you like driving fords? or do you wanna hop in a bentley?
  66. [10/25/2015 4:02:59 PM] John Paul: if you want me to just setup a site with a pre-designed premium theme, then the $300 still holds but if you want a full custom strip/design thats gonna be $500. and you can add your profits to the $300 and or $500
  67. [10/25/2015 4:03:13 PM] fabjr23: This what i will do
  68. [10/25/2015 4:03:21 PM] fabjr23: I will charge the client 2250 for a full functional website
  69. [10/25/2015 4:03:28 PM] fabjr23: you just take out your 500 dollars for your work
  70. [10/25/2015 4:03:34 PM] fabjr23: and send me the remaining balance
  71. [10/25/2015 4:03:46 PM] fabjr23: or we can split 50/50
  72. [10/25/2015 4:04:13 PM] John Paul: That sounds great to me, no need to split it 50/50
  73. [10/25/2015 4:04:23 PM] John Paul: $500 sounds fair to me
  74. [10/25/2015 4:05:08 PM] fabjr23: can your account handle a transaction tht large without getting froze?
  75. [10/25/2015 4:07:09 PM] John Paul: I’ve done $1300 all at once and its a business account, so it should be good, but let me look up if there are any limits
  76. [10/25/2015 4:07:33 PM] John Paul: will i be send your money in little bits once the payment is through
  77. [10/25/2015 4:08:19 PM] fabjr23: Nah
  78. [10/25/2015 4:08:23 PM] fabjr23: Can you western union?
  79. [10/25/2015 4:09:41 PM] fabjr23: can u western union the same day ?
  80. [10/25/2015 4:09:55 PM] fabjr23: Or if sending via paypal is convient for you we can rock like that too
  81. [10/25/2015 4:10:10 PM] John Paul: yea send paypal is more convenient
  82. [10/25/2015 4:10:26 PM] fabjr23: I will need you to send a gift payment tho
  83. [10/25/2015 4:11:55 PM] John Paul: ok thats cool, is the client in the know, i don’t want any misunderstandings in case of problems..
  84. [10/25/2015 4:14:56 PM] fabjr23: Yes
  85. [10/25/2015 4:15:02 PM] fabjr23: Because if you cheat me
  86. [10/25/2015 4:15:15 PM] fabjr23: Client do everything he can to seek refund
  87. [10/25/2015 4:15:17 PM] fabjr23: SO yes he knows
  88. [10/25/2015 4:17:19 PM] fabjr23: give me your paypal id
  89. [10/25/2015 4:17:58 PM] John Paul: Im not a cheat. ok whenever you are ready we can get this done, paypal id is
  90. [10/25/2015 4:18:21 PM] fabjr23: also may i have your contact number? I will call you once its sent as well
  91. [10/25/2015 4:19:21 PM] John Paul: give me your paypal so i can send the gift immediately
  92. [10/25/2015 4:19:32 PM] fabjr23: I dont have a paypal account
  93. [10/25/2015 4:19:43 PM] fabjr23: I will spend today talking with close business partners to arrange the payment
  94. [10/25/2015 4:19:53 PM] fabjr23: Im trying to see if gift cards would work
  95. [10/25/2015 4:20:04 PM] fabjr23: but i dont think people in can purchase usa gift cards
  96. [10/25/2015 4:20:22 PM] fabjr23: Then i knwo that it will take 3-4 days for money to hit your bank account for western union so that may be a bit long
  97. [10/25/2015 4:20:29 PM] fabjr23: So i will sort it out and get back to you
  98. [10/25/2015 4:20:41 PM] John Paul: i yea sort it to get back to me
  99. [10/25/2015 4:20:52 PM] fabjr23: give me your contact number pls
  100. [10/25/2015 4:22:39 PM] John Paul:
  101. [10/25/2015 4:22:46 PM] John Paul: its a number
  102. [10/25/2015 4:23:02 PM] fabjr23: Tell drake I said wat up
  103. [10/25/2015 4:23:09 PM] John Paul: you can also email me at
  104. [10/25/2015 4:23:14 PM] John Paul: lol
  105. [10/25/2015 4:23:22 PM] fabjr23: :D
  106. [10/25/2015 4:29:50 PM] John Paul: yea let me know what your biz partners think
  107. [10/25/2015 4:30:35 PM] fabjr23: ok
  108. [10/25/2015 5:49:31 PM] John Paul: You confirm the details yet
  109. [10/25/2015 8:57:39 PM] fabjr23: Not yet bro god
  110. [10/26/2015 10:38:33 AM] fabjr23: Yooo
  111. [10/26/2015 10:40:14 AM] fabjr23: Helloo
  112. [10/26/2015 12:02:22 PM] fabjr23: yooo
  113. [10/26/2015 4:57:33 PM] John Paul: Hey
  114. [10/26/2015 4:57:43 PM] fabjr23: Damn...where u been @?
  115. [10/26/2015 4:57:48 PM] fabjr23: I almost called you
  116. [10/26/2015 4:58:11 PM] John Paul: I was working on a big arcade site design sorry
  117. [10/26/2015 4:58:18 PM] John Paul: I thought you were going to call
  118. [10/26/2015 4:58:18 PM] fabjr23: Its all good dog
  119. [10/26/2015 4:58:21 PM] fabjr23: Take your time
  120. [10/26/2015 4:58:33 PM] fabjr23: Well i was going to call to let you know when payment was sent however
  121. [10/26/2015 4:58:36 PM] fabjr23: its been a change of plans
  122. [10/26/2015 4:59:41 PM] John Paul: which is?
  123. [10/26/2015 4:59:57 PM] fabjr23: Much smaller project
  124. [10/26/2015 5:00:05 PM] fabjr23: Much smaller project
  125. [10/26/2015 5:00:11 PM] fabjr23: Damn near just a home page design
  126. [10/26/2015 5:00:21 PM] fabjr23: How much do you charge for a home page design?
  127. [10/26/2015 5:00:25 PM] John Paul: what?
  128. [10/26/2015 5:00:44 PM] fabjr23: The buyer was going to send to your paypal
  129. [10/26/2015 5:00:55 PM] fabjr23: when he went to send to your paypal he found out he couldnt paypal to usa
  130. [10/26/2015 5:01:04 PM] fabjr23: Then i say ok well how bout you send via money gram
  131. [10/26/2015 5:01:15 PM] fabjr23: He went to send via money gram..His country wouldnt let him do that either
  132. [10/26/2015 5:01:20 PM] fabjr23: India a FUCKED up country
  133. [10/26/2015 5:01:30 PM] fabjr23: They got money over there...They just cant send it unless its wire transfer
  134. [10/26/2015 5:01:41 PM] John Paul: $100 is good and I’m in canada, can he send it there?
  135. [10/26/2015 5:02:00 PM] fabjr23: Dude you have some really great prices man
  136. [10/26/2015 5:02:30 PM] fabjr23: They cant do shit unlesss its wire transfer
  137. [10/26/2015 5:02:35 PM] fabjr23: So let me ask you this
  138. [10/26/2015 5:02:46 PM] fabjr23: Do you have a credit card?
  139. [10/26/2015 5:02:57 PM] fabjr23: Not to be in your personal business or anything
  140. [10/26/2015 5:03:05 PM] fabjr23: Im just sorting thru options here
  141. [10/26/2015 5:03:19 PM] fabjr23: I know western union or money gram isint convient for you
  142. [10/26/2015 5:03:31 PM] fabjr23: But if you have CC you could just purchase the gift card online @ best buy or something
  143. [10/26/2015 5:04:02 PM] fabjr23: Thats an option......HOwever...We can just stick to paypal to paypal which is no problem either
  144. [10/26/2015 5:04:22 PM] fabjr23: Now what i will do is work out this design and foward you a copy of what needs to be done
  145. [10/26/2015 5:04:34 PM] fabjr23: I just wanted to keep you updated
  146. [10/26/2015 5:04:49 PM] John Paul: ok paypal for $100
  147. [10/26/2015 5:05:08 PM] fabjr23: Im gonna charge this dude 700 bucks
  148. [10/26/2015 5:05:18 PM] fabjr23: along with a lil seo work on my end
  149. [10/26/2015 5:06:07 PM] John Paul: alright, for just the front end stuff and, i have access to a pen if the guy wants top notch see done
  150. [10/26/2015 5:06:34 PM] fabjr23: Cool
  151. [10/26/2015 5:06:50 PM] John Paul: and if you charge $700 does $150 for me sound fair to you? ill do the design psd and coding
  152. [10/26/2015 5:07:00 PM] fabjr23: Hell yea
  153. [10/26/2015 5:07:44 PM] fabjr23: Give me about 15 mins il brb
  154. [10/26/2015 5:50:14 PM] John Paul: its been 15+ minute man
  155. [10/26/2015 6:15:49 PM] fabjr23: My apologys sir. Thing went longer than expected
  156. [10/26/2015 6:15:54 PM] fabjr23: things*
  157. [10/26/2015 6:17:14 PM] John Paul: yea
  158. [10/26/2015 6:17:43 PM] fabjr23: Yea. Im eating dinner..I shall be another 30 mins...Brb
  159. [10/26/2015 6:17:50 PM] John Paul: ok cool
  160. [10/26/2015 6:18:20 PM] fabjr23: (wait)
  161. [10/26/2015 7:13:48 PM] John Paul: hey?
  162. [10/26/2015 7:30:37 PM] fabjr23: Yo
  163. [10/26/2015 7:30:50 PM] fabjr23: I dont even have a good time to talk..The ladies keep texting my phone
  164. [10/26/2015 7:31:10 PM] fabjr23: Tell you what....Imma throw a few ur way nd see what you can do with them lol (cool)
  165. [10/26/2015 7:31:28 PM] fabjr23: (chuckle)
  166. [10/26/2015 7:31:37 PM] fabjr23: (clap)
  167. [10/26/2015 7:41:43 PM] John Paul: loool
  168. [10/26/2015 9:14:56 PM] John Paul: Ive got work to do on the flash site, coding the pads for it and slicing the stuff, but if you can message me at 4:30 pm, its okay to send the $700 once you confirm
  169. [10/27/2015 4:01:00 PM] John Paul: hey
  170. [10/27/2015 6:36:15 PM] John Paul: yo fab
  171. [10/27/2015 7:23:57 PM] John Paul: fab where are you
  172. [10/28/2015 4:22:01 PM] John Paul: yo
  173. [10/29/2015 12:29:14 AM] fabjr23: Yo
  174. [10/29/2015 12:29:17 AM] fabjr23: Do you offer hosting?
  175. [10/29/2015 4:30:23 PM] John Paul: nope, it thought it was just a homepage job or is it changing back to the big project
  176. [10/29/2015 4:31:00 PM] John Paul: actually i can offer hosting for free, but it can handle solid traffic
  177. [10/30/2015 1:26:38 AM] fabjr23: ok now we have a third party into this
  178. [10/30/2015 1:27:19 AM] fabjr23: hello
  179. [10/30/2015 8:32:57 AM] John Paul: hey
  180. [10/30/2015 8:33:03 AM] John Paul: third party?
  181. [10/30/2015 10:25:03 AM] fabjr23: get online!!
  182. [10/30/2015 2:02:04 PM] fabjr23: Yoo
  183. [10/30/2015 2:17:07 PM] fabjr23: Hdllooo
  184. [10/30/2015 2:28:33 PM] fabjr23: Yooo
  185. [10/30/2015 3:22:51 PM] fabjr23: Hellooooo
  186. [10/30/2015 3:41:04 PM] fabjr23: John Paul I'm worried now
  187. [10/30/2015 4:10:37 PM] John Paul: yo
  188. [10/30/2015 4:12:11 PM] fabjr23: Yooooppppp
  189. [10/30/2015 4:12:24 PM] fabjr23: (cool)
  190. [10/30/2015 4:12:38 PM] fabjr23: U ready to get this work ?
  191. [10/30/2015 4:14:26 PM] John Paul: yea man
  192. [10/30/2015 4:15:30 PM] fabjr23: Ok cool
  193. [10/30/2015 4:15:38 PM] fabjr23: We finalizing the deal now
  194. [10/30/2015 4:15:47 PM] John Paul: great
  195. [10/30/2015 4:15:54 PM] fabjr23: What I'm going to do is sub contract the project out
  196. [10/30/2015 4:16:04 PM] John Paul: $700 deal or the $2000
  197. [10/30/2015 4:16:05 PM] fabjr23: To you and my design team in India
  198. [10/30/2015 4:16:12 PM] fabjr23: 2250
  199. [10/30/2015 4:16:16 PM] fabjr23: Might b 3k
  200. [10/30/2015 4:16:28 PM] fabjr23: I just hope ur account can handle
  201. [10/30/2015 4:16:39 PM] fabjr23: Without it getting frozen
  202. [10/30/2015 4:18:12 PM] John Paul: they'll design and ill code or how will it work?
  203. [10/30/2015 4:18:47 PM] fabjr23: U will design...They will code
  204. [10/30/2015 4:18:57 PM] fabjr23: I'm just brokering the deal
  205. [10/30/2015 4:19:08 PM] John Paul: alright cool
  206. [10/30/2015 4:19:09 PM] fabjr23: So here's how it will go
  207. [10/30/2015 4:19:38 PM] fabjr23: You will design site. Give it a nice them etc. They will do all the work that's time consuming
  208. [10/30/2015 4:19:47 PM] fabjr23: Sooo
  209. [10/30/2015 4:19:52 PM] fabjr23: 2250
  210. [10/30/2015 4:20:12 PM] fabjr23: I estimate ur cost to be only 300 for the work u have to do
  211. [10/30/2015 4:20:29 PM] John Paul: yea can we do 2 payments of 1500 and how will I get you the money?
  212. [10/30/2015 4:20:47 PM] fabjr23: No that won't work
  213. [10/30/2015 4:21:00 PM] fabjr23: Buyer will send 2250 up front
  214. [10/30/2015 4:21:07 PM] John Paul: alright great
  215. [10/30/2015 4:21:22 PM] fabjr23: Now are you on elance ?
  216. [10/30/2015 4:21:26 PM] John Paul: how do I pay you since I cant do a gift card
  217. [10/30/2015 4:22:10 PM] John Paul: No I'm not
  218. [10/30/2015 4:22:16 PM] John Paul: is it getting done today?
  219. [10/30/2015 4:22:27 PM] fabjr23: Between today and tomorrow
  220. [10/30/2015 4:22:36 PM] fabjr23: I had to speak with u first
  221. [10/30/2015 4:23:01 PM] fabjr23: Plus me the buyer and my design team couldn't agree on shit
  222. [10/30/2015 4:23:10 PM] John Paul: ok
  223. [10/30/2015 4:23:14 PM] fabjr23: We renegotiated like 10 times
  224. [10/30/2015 4:23:21 PM] John Paul: what couldn't you guys agree on?
  225. [10/30/2015 4:23:58 PM] fabjr23: Work cost, paypal fees , eliminating costly ideas
  226. [10/30/2015 4:24:30 PM] fabjr23: The design team in India can't pay me smh
  227. [10/30/2015 4:24:44 PM] John Paul: oh ok
  228. [10/30/2015 4:24:55 PM] fabjr23: They can't send out funds
  229. [10/30/2015 4:25:03 PM] fabjr23: They can't western union
  230. [10/30/2015 4:25:14 PM] fabjr23: They can't send no money out the country unless it's a wire
  231. [10/30/2015 4:25:25 PM] John Paul: yea I get it
  232. [10/30/2015 4:25:43 PM] John Paul: how I get the funds to you and them?
  233. [10/30/2015 4:26:03 PM] fabjr23: So I honestly have to wait until you and design team in India complete work before I can milk the buyer for more cash
  234. [10/30/2015 4:26:09 PM] fabjr23: U can't pay me
  235. [10/30/2015 4:26:14 PM] fabjr23: And they can't pay me
  236. [10/30/2015 4:29:00 PM] fabjr23: So what I will do since I don't wanna lose the deal is put it thru anyway and next deal I will have u pay me via western union or some thing
  237. [10/30/2015 4:29:57 PM] fabjr23: Cool ?
  238. [10/30/2015 4:30:29 PM] John Paul: yea sounds cool
  239. [10/30/2015 4:30:38 PM] fabjr23: Ok now next step
  240. [10/30/2015 4:30:52 PM] fabjr23: U have to create a elance account
  241. [10/30/2015 4:31:03 PM] fabjr23: www.elance.com
  242. [10/30/2015 4:31:18 PM] fabjr23: I will give you the project details to post
  243. [10/30/2015 4:31:25 PM] fabjr23: To hire a freelancer
  244. [10/30/2015 4:31:41 PM] fabjr23: My web design team in India will bid on it
  245. [10/30/2015 4:31:59 PM] fabjr23: U will award them the project via escrow
  246. [10/30/2015 4:33:06 PM] fabjr23: We will issue out payment to you before u award the project
  247. [10/30/2015 4:33:21 PM] John Paul: alright cool
  248. [10/30/2015 4:33:24 PM] fabjr23: That way u can put the money in escrow
  249. [10/30/2015 4:33:26 PM] John Paul: gimme a sec to do that
  250. [10/30/2015 4:34:18 PM] fabjr23: Once u award them the project, u will have to release funds Asap
  251. [10/30/2015 4:34:35 PM] fabjr23: Via escrow so they can do work
  252. [10/30/2015 4:35:00 PM] fabjr23: ASAP...within 12 hours
  253. [10/30/2015 4:35:13 PM] fabjr23: Cool ?
  254. [10/30/2015 4:35:23 PM] John Paul: yea
  255. [10/30/2015 4:35:26 PM] fabjr23: Create the elance account
  256. [10/30/2015 4:35:33 PM] fabjr23: I will email u details
  257. [10/30/2015 4:35:52 PM] fabjr23: Pls do not cheat the buyer
  258. [10/30/2015 4:36:02 PM] John Paul: why is elance goignt to upwork?
  259. [10/30/2015 4:36:14 PM] John Paul: ais your design team on upwork?
  260. [10/30/2015 4:36:20 PM] fabjr23: Yes
  261. [10/30/2015 4:36:28 PM] fabjr23: That shit weird as hell
  262. [10/30/2015 4:36:31 PM] John Paul: ok cool
  263. [10/30/2015 4:36:50 PM] fabjr23: For now sign up as a buyer looking to hire
  264. [10/30/2015 4:37:19 PM] fabjr23: When I email u the details then that's when you will post project
  265. [10/30/2015 4:37:42 PM] John Paul: ok account created
  266. [10/30/2015 4:37:45 PM] fabjr23: Il contact you tonight to let u know wats going on
  267. [10/30/2015 4:37:54 PM] fabjr23: Ok ur work is done for today
  268. [10/30/2015 4:37:55 PM] fabjr23: Thnx
  269. [10/30/2015 4:38:04 PM] fabjr23: Talk to u soon
  270. [10/30/2015 4:38:05 PM] John Paul: alright cool
  271. [10/30/2015 4:38:12 PM] fabjr23: Like I said pls don't cheat my buyer
  272. [10/30/2015 4:38:26 PM] John Paul: I will not man
  273. [10/30/2015 4:38:37 PM] fabjr23: I'm trusting you and I barely know u I just have a sense u r legit and u are an excellent designer
  274. [10/30/2015 4:38:48 PM] John Paul: you have my number and personal info I cant cheat
  275. [10/30/2015 4:38:57 PM] fabjr23: Yes u can lol
  276. [10/30/2015 4:39:21 PM] fabjr23: U can say Fuck us send the money to your girlfriend and close ur paypal account lol
  277. [10/30/2015 4:39:28 PM] John Paul: I am trustworthy and I am a great designer
  278. [10/30/2015 4:39:56 PM] fabjr23: And u r sure ur account can handle 2250?
  279. [10/30/2015 4:40:40 PM] John Paul: ive done $6000 in aggreagate sales on it and ive had it for 3 years with no hitches, ps its a business account with all info
  280. [10/30/2015 4:41:14 PM] fabjr23: ? (rock) (rock) (rock) (rock)
  281. [10/30/2015 4:41:58 PM] John Paul: nothing will go wrong unless paypal is a bitch ive done a lot of work and no complaints or hitches.
  282. [10/30/2015 4:43:11 PM] fabjr23: Cool Thnx man
  283. [10/30/2015 4:43:15 PM] fabjr23: Talk to u soon
  284. [10/30/2015 4:43:39 PM] John Paul: great
  285. [10/30/2015 9:39:10 PM] John Paul: Yo fab what time you think you gonna be on
  286. [10/30/2015 9:39:24 PM] John Paul: Last time you messaged at 2 am
  287. [10/30/2015 11:37:32 PM] fabjr23: Yooo
  288. [10/31/2015 8:41:33 AM] John Paul: uoo
  289. [10/31/2015 8:41:35 AM] John Paul: yoo
  290. [10/31/2015 9:07:38 AM] fabjr23: Gm
  291. [10/31/2015 9:07:46 AM] fabjr23: I'm on top of it right now
  292. [10/31/2015 9:07:52 AM] fabjr23: Give me ur email
  293. [10/31/2015 9:07:54 AM] fabjr23: Pls
  294. [10/31/2015 9:07:59 AM] John Paul: good morning to you too
  295. [10/31/2015 9:08:10 AM] John Paul: and
  296. [10/31/2015 10:03:19 AM] John Paul: did you send anything yet?
  297. [10/31/2015 10:13:27 AM] fabjr23: Experienced Php developer over the next 2 - 12 months full time. Expected to work 40 hours per week
  298.  
  299.  
  300. * Fluent in English
  301. * Lots of experience building Web Applications.
  302. * Experience taking the project from start to finish.
  303. * Experience with Laravel or Codeigniter
  304. * Comfortable using Postgres/Mysql and DynamoDB
  305. * Experience using AWS stack.
  306. * Experience using GIT and Bitbucket
  307.  
  308. Highly Valued
  309. * Experience with Kanban or Scrum
  310. * Linux experience
  311. * JIRA Experience
  312. * Full Stack developer (Extremely valued)
  313.  
  314. What you don't need to worry about, and we will cover:
  315. * Product Management
  316. * Project Management
  317. * Design
  318. * Front-End
  319.  
  320. Looking to get started asap.
  321. [10/31/2015 10:18:03 AM] fabjr23: are you there?
  322. [10/31/2015 10:18:07 AM] fabjr23: email sent
  323. [10/31/2015 10:18:10 AM] John Paul: yea
  324. [10/31/2015 10:18:14 AM] John Paul: doing right now
  325. [10/31/2015 10:21:00 AM] fabjr23: ok cool
  326. [10/31/2015 10:21:43 AM] John Paul: fixed payment right?
  327. [10/31/2015 10:22:06 AM] fabjr23: Yes
  328. [10/31/2015 10:22:15 AM] John Paul: of what amount
  329. [10/31/2015 10:22:27 AM] fabjr23: 1900
  330. [10/31/2015 10:22:32 AM] John Paul: and expert right
  331. [10/31/2015 10:23:12 AM] fabjr23: Yes correct
  332. [10/31/2015 10:23:33 AM] John Paul: wooooow i thought I was getting $500 for my work, if I’m getting $2250 upfront and paying 1900, how do i get $500?
  333. [10/31/2015 10:23:54 AM] fabjr23: Smh
  334. [10/31/2015 10:23:54 AM] John Paul: whats the estimated work duration
  335. [10/31/2015 10:25:55 AM] fabjr23: 1-2 weeks
  336. [10/31/2015 10:29:28 AM] fabjr23: Yooo
  337. [10/31/2015 10:30:17 AM] John Paul: yea whats with the pricing man, i thought we agreed on the $500
  338. [10/31/2015 10:30:33 AM] fabjr23: Can you do 400?
  339. [10/31/2015 10:30:40 AM] fabjr23: You have the easiet part of the project
  340. [10/31/2015 10:30:48 AM] fabjr23: To desigin home page and structure the layout of site
  341. [10/31/2015 10:30:59 AM] fabjr23: Which in all honesty is not a 500 dollar task man
  342. [10/31/2015 10:31:08 AM] fabjr23: But since you are putting together the deal im willing to negotiate
  343. [10/31/2015 10:35:15 AM] fabjr23: Which in honesty...Make ur money
  344. [10/31/2015 10:35:26 AM] fabjr23: BUt dont forget you came out the gate saying u could design the whole site for 300
  345. [10/31/2015 10:35:26 AM] John Paul: this is a full site, with home page, product details page, categories page, design accounts login and creation, order page, this is a full functioning comm site with lots of moving parts and graphics packs needed, its not as easy as you say unless I’m just doing the home page and some graphics packs for the site in which $400, which is it full functioning site or the latter
  346. [10/31/2015 10:35:51 AM] fabjr23: More so the Latter
  347. [10/31/2015 10:35:59 AM] fabjr23: BUt if you want to create all that be my guyess
  348. [10/31/2015 10:36:05 AM] fabjr23: The more work you do
  349. [10/31/2015 10:36:10 AM] fabjr23: The less work my indians have to do
  350. [10/31/2015 10:36:18 AM] fabjr23: So if you feel 500 is Justifiable thats up to you
  351. [10/31/2015 10:36:35 AM] fabjr23: I was just trying to cut you a check for the least work possible.. and for the fastest turn around time
  352. [10/31/2015 10:36:41 AM] fabjr23: I want this project completed in 1-2 weeks at max
  353. [10/31/2015 10:36:49 AM] John Paul: ok yea, if its the latter then ill do $400, thats cool
  354. [10/31/2015 10:36:54 AM] John Paul: great
  355. [10/31/2015 10:36:57 AM] fabjr23: ok cool so the bid will be 1800
  356. [10/31/2015 10:37:03 AM] John Paul: yea
  357. [10/31/2015 10:40:32 AM] John Paul: https://www.upwork.com/jobs/Experienced-Php-developer-over-the-next-months-full-time-Expected-work-hours-per-week_~0153498437dc047954
  358. [10/31/2015 10:42:22 AM] John Paul: done
  359. [10/31/2015 10:42:28 AM] fabjr23: perfect
  360. [10/31/2015 10:42:30 AM] fabjr23: Im sending the link now
  361. [10/31/2015 10:42:35 AM] fabjr23: Will be back in about 1 hour
  362. [10/31/2015 10:42:53 AM] fabjr23: Im about to go shower...make breakfast...Consult with designers etc..Ill text u once i get word
  363. [10/31/2015 10:43:19 AM] John Paul: ok cool
  364. [10/31/2015 10:44:05 AM] John Paul: can i get the sample site again?
  365. [10/31/2015 10:44:10 AM] John Paul: so i can start?
  366. [10/31/2015 10:44:22 AM] fabjr23: Wait one sec dont start until payment is sent
  367. [10/31/2015 10:44:28 AM] fabjr23: I will email you full details shortly
  368. [10/31/2015 10:44:32 AM] fabjr23: Im drafting up 3 emails
  369. [10/31/2015 10:44:35 AM] fabjr23: One for you
  370. [10/31/2015 10:44:38 AM] fabjr23: One for buyer
  371. [10/31/2015 10:44:44 AM] John Paul: ok true
  372. [10/31/2015 10:44:44 AM] fabjr23: One for India design team
  373. [10/31/2015 10:44:45 AM] fabjr23: I got you
  374. [10/31/2015 10:45:20 AM] John Paul: yea great, text me or link me here
  375. [10/31/2015 10:45:38 AM] fabjr23: cool (monkey)
  376. [10/31/2015 11:12:11 AM] fabjr23: Hey you
  377. [10/31/2015 11:12:21 AM] John Paul: hey
  378. [10/31/2015 11:12:30 AM] fabjr23: You contacted my web design team? lol
  379. [10/31/2015 11:13:19 AM] John Paul: which one, i have 6 offers
  380. [10/31/2015 11:13:28 AM] fabjr23: Accept WEb master driver
  381. [10/31/2015 11:13:31 AM] fabjr23: Accept his offer
  382. [10/31/2015 11:14:16 AM] John Paul: who?
  383. [10/31/2015 11:14:28 AM] fabjr23: hes sending proposal
  384. [10/31/2015 11:14:34 AM] fabjr23: wait one sec
  385. [10/31/2015 11:14:36 AM] John Paul: ok
  386. [10/31/2015 11:15:27 AM] fabjr23: sent
  387. [10/31/2015 11:15:35 AM] fabjr23: He is Web master Driver Technologies
  388. [10/31/2015 11:16:32 AM] fabjr23: Freelance: Vikas Jain
  389. [10/31/2015 11:18:23 AM] John Paul: messaged him
  390. [10/31/2015 11:18:35 AM] fabjr23: https://www.upwork.com/applications/311389895
  391. [10/31/2015 11:18:46 AM] fabjr23: did you accept his proposal ?
  392. [10/31/2015 11:20:10 AM] John Paul: i shortlisted, i need payment to be able to accept and hire him
  393. [10/31/2015 11:20:28 AM] fabjr23: huh?
  394. [10/31/2015 11:21:37 AM] John Paul: yea, once payment is good we can continue
  395. [10/31/2015 11:22:38 AM] fabjr23: Ok cool
  396. [10/31/2015 11:22:41 AM] fabjr23: Give me your paypal email
  397. [10/31/2015 11:22:48 AM] fabjr23: How the heck your shortlist?
  398. [10/31/2015 11:22:56 AM] fabjr23: Y cant you accept proposal then pay?
  399. [10/31/2015 11:23:06 AM] fabjr23: Thats weird
  400. [10/31/2015 11:23:26 AM] John Paul: tolaskool@gmail.com
  401. [10/31/2015 11:24:07 AM] John Paul: its upwards way, they’re weird, they want you to look around and shit for a list of different freelancers before arriving at one
  402. [10/31/2015 11:24:22 AM] fabjr23: ok
  403. [10/31/2015 11:28:45 AM] fabjr23: ok Update
  404. [10/31/2015 11:28:50 AM] fabjr23: Payment will be sent monday or tuesday
  405. [10/31/2015 11:28:52 AM] fabjr23: Cool?
  406. [10/31/2015 11:30:01 AM] fabjr23: Hello.oooo
  407. [10/31/2015 11:30:43 AM] fabjr23: helloooooo
  408. [10/31/2015 11:31:07 AM] John Paul: yea
  409. [10/31/2015 11:31:14 AM] fabjr23: Ok yes
  410. [10/31/2015 11:31:20 AM] fabjr23: Payment will be sent monday or tuesday
  411. [10/31/2015 11:31:35 AM] fabjr23: Im talking to my guy and we cant get ahold of buyer until monday or tuesday
  412. [10/31/2015 11:31:47 AM] fabjr23: We trying to reach him not but its unsuccessful
  413. [10/31/2015 11:31:58 AM] fabjr23: Il keep you updated...I hope you have a great weekend...
  414. [10/31/2015 11:32:33 AM] John Paul: aite sounds great bro
  415. [11/2/2015 10:49:32 AM] fabjr23: Yo
  416. [11/2/2015 10:49:57 AM] fabjr23: Good morning john
  417. [11/2/2015 11:09:55 AM] fabjr23: Hello
  418. [11/2/2015 11:22:39 AM] fabjr23: yoooooo
  419. [11/2/2015 1:45:05 PM] fabjr23: yoooo
  420. [11/2/2015 2:23:47 PM] fabjr23: yooooooo
  421. [11/2/2015 3:20:17 PM] fabjr23: yoooooooooo
  422. [11/2/2015 5:20:41 PM] John Paul: yo fab
  423. [11/2/2015 5:28:46 PM] fabjr23: Hello sir
  424. [11/2/2015 5:28:58 PM] John Paul: hey whats happening
  425. [11/2/2015 5:29:06 PM] fabjr23: Nothing to much...Thnx for coming online
  426. [11/2/2015 5:29:17 PM] John Paul: Yea no prob
  427. [11/2/2015 5:29:18 PM] fabjr23: Sorry for the array of messages...It seems harder to reach you than me
  428. [11/2/2015 5:29:30 PM] John Paul: yea, is the payment going down?
  429. [11/2/2015 5:29:58 PM] fabjr23: No...
  430. [11/2/2015 5:30:01 PM] fabjr23: Not today
  431. [11/2/2015 5:31:11 PM] John Paul: oh ok
  432. [11/2/2015 5:31:58 PM] fabjr23: The buyer wants to know can we draw up a design somewhat of a rough draft before they issue payment?
  433. [11/2/2015 5:33:01 PM] John Paul: what are their requirements? and that tough it can’t be too elaborate
  434. [11/2/2015 5:35:00 PM] fabjr23: Ok well i still havent sent you the full requirements. The buyer is pretty fickle. Mainly just brainstorming different ideas and branding concepts for the boutique. Long term site maitenence. Hes translatiing his vision to me and i have to translate it to you.
  435. [11/2/2015 5:37:05 PM] fabjr23: Just when i think we are about to close..Something else pops up..I jus want to let you know im not wasting your time. This deal will happen foreal. I dont mind helping with the design process too save time as well if ur too busy.. (whew)
  436. [11/2/2015 5:37:46 PM] John Paul: if you can do the concept that her wants do it and ill make a kickass design form that
  437. [11/2/2015 5:38:13 PM] fabjr23: (idea)
  438. [11/2/2015 5:38:19 PM] John Paul: because i dont have the requirements yet
  439. [11/2/2015 5:39:28 PM] fabjr23: Ok cool..Well thats going to take me about 3 days. Between work and school..But i can get done in about 3-4 days. So il check back in with you Thurs-Friday.......Cool?
  440. [11/2/2015 5:40:19 PM] John Paul: fab man thats long, but ok cool.
  441. [11/2/2015 5:44:01 PM] fabjr23: Believe mee...I want this crap done like yesterday. I have to stay up all night to catch these guys online or wait for them to return my email. Im going to start work now...Hopefully finish in 2 days...Max..Il keep you posted every step of the way
  442. [11/2/2015 5:44:44 PM] fabjr23: Talk to you later bro...Peaceeeee (fistbump)
  443. [11/2/2015 5:45:12 PM] John Paul: Ok great man :)
  444. [11/7/2015 10:57:29 PM] fabjr23: Hello
  445. [11/7/2015 10:57:43 PM] John Paul: Hey
  446. [11/7/2015 10:57:58 PM] fabjr23: Sorry to leave you hanging
  447. [11/7/2015 10:58:15 PM] John Paul: yea no worries
  448. [11/7/2015 10:58:28 PM] fabjr23: Got my kids over
  449. [11/7/2015 10:59:11 PM] fabjr23: RUnning around outside...Eating Junk food. Giving baths...Playing xbox..Playing on tablets...Playing on PC's watching movies...Peanut butter jelly sandwhiches
  450. [11/7/2015 10:59:18 PM] fabjr23: its been one heck of a weeknd
  451. [11/7/2015 10:59:28 PM] fabjr23: *weekend
  452. [11/7/2015 10:59:46 PM] John Paul: I bet it was, hope you had fun.
  453. [11/7/2015 11:00:20 PM] fabjr23: Of course...Ive been in the middle of so much to do tho....Im all over the place
  454. [11/7/2015 11:00:35 PM] fabjr23: Im very interested in building websites fully funtional
  455. [11/7/2015 11:00:49 PM] fabjr23: Setting them up for ecommerce success and then selling them for like 3k a piece
  456. [11/7/2015 11:01:15 PM] fabjr23: http://www.websitebroker.com/
  457. [11/7/2015 11:01:30 PM] fabjr23: That link is to just give a general idea
  458. [11/7/2015 11:01:36 PM] John Paul: lets start with this one and then crossing over to selling full functioning sites
  459. [11/7/2015 11:04:18 PM] fabjr23: Of course (highfive)
  460. [11/7/2015 11:04:49 PM] fabjr23: SO pretty much
  461. [11/7/2015 11:05:11 PM] fabjr23: I cant like guarantee that the payment will be there monday for sure BUt i can guarantee it will happen this week
  462. [11/7/2015 11:06:49 PM] John Paul: common fab, Ive been counting on this deal for some time, i need this to go through as soon as possible
  463. [11/7/2015 11:10:15 PM] fabjr23: Me too...It may seem like its taking forever. I would hate for you to be upset if it doesnt take place monday.. Im for certain we are going to get paid..This has been on my mind all week..I wake up everyday feeling good knowing pay day is going to be soon ya know? Not to mention monday is right around the corner..Im on top of things the best way i can and im shooting for monday
  464. [11/7/2015 11:11:20 PM] John Paul: alright, lets just try to get this done as soon as possible so we can continue lining ourselves up for bigger paydays
  465. [11/7/2015 11:11:30 PM] fabjr23: Yes sir
  466. [11/7/2015 11:12:24 PM] John Paul: alright seems like it, email me the mocks when you’re done, hope you had fun with the kids and if tell them i said hi if they are still there fab
  467. [11/7/2015 11:12:31 PM] John Paul: have a good one
  468. [11/7/2015 11:13:17 PM] fabjr23: LOl aww check you out ..Thnx bro...I might send you a christmas gift..Good night..
  469. [11/7/2015 11:13:56 PM] John Paul: That would be nice...Goodnight man, talk soon.
  470. [11/7/2015 11:14:21 PM] fabjr23: (pullshot) (fistbump)
  471. [11/11/2015 1:29:21 PM] fabjr23: Hello
  472. [11/11/2015 4:03:25 PM] John Paul: I stayed up till one yesterday man
  473. [11/11/2015 4:03:33 PM] John Paul: but hey whats up
  474. [11/11/2015 4:09:13 PM] John Paul: hey yo
  475. [11/12/2015 1:28:49 AM] fabjr23: Hello
  476. [11/12/2015 1:28:57 AM] fabjr23: Its hard to catch you online brother
  477. [11/12/2015 5:28:26 PM] fabjr23: Hello
  478. [11/12/2015 5:31:48 PM] John Paul: hey whats popping
  479. [11/12/2015 5:33:06 PM] fabjr23: We gotta renogiate
  480. [11/12/2015 5:33:10 PM] fabjr23: Good news and bad news
  481. [11/12/2015 5:33:18 PM] fabjr23: The good news is...THe order can come thru today
  482. [11/12/2015 5:33:32 PM] fabjr23: The bad news is...They are not sending the whole payment
  483. [11/12/2015 5:33:36 PM] fabjr23: They are sending 1500 up front
  484. [11/12/2015 5:33:50 PM] John Paul: what the heck and ok so how is that working?
  485. [11/12/2015 5:33:53 PM] fabjr23: and The remaining 700 on the back end
  486. [11/12/2015 5:34:10 PM] fabjr23: Well...I wanna pretty much wrap this project up.
  487. [11/12/2015 5:34:34 PM] fabjr23: I dont know why it took so many days
  488. [11/12/2015 5:34:36 PM] fabjr23: Beats me
  489. [11/12/2015 5:35:05 PM] John Paul: site so they paid you?
  490. [11/12/2015 5:35:19 PM] fabjr23: They paid me a small fee
  491. [11/12/2015 5:35:30 PM] fabjr23: Like 400 bucks for the design and theme
  492. [11/12/2015 5:35:39 PM] fabjr23: They were impressed
  493. [11/12/2015 5:35:42 PM] John Paul: so the $1500 isn’t with you?
  494. [11/12/2015 5:36:00 PM] fabjr23: So they willing to send 1500 up front which is more than half of wat me and the buyer initially agreed on
  495. [11/12/2015 5:36:03 PM] fabjr23: NO the 1500 isnt with me
  496. [11/12/2015 5:36:11 PM] fabjr23: I told them i had to speak with my partner which is you
  497. [11/12/2015 5:36:14 PM] fabjr23: before we proceeded
  498. [11/12/2015 5:36:27 PM] John Paul: ok thats cool, how is it getting processed
  499. [11/12/2015 5:36:32 PM] fabjr23: Via paypal
  500. [11/12/2015 5:37:05 PM] fabjr23: The thing is..My team in india Will complete the project at least 85% of it
  501. [11/12/2015 5:37:10 PM] fabjr23: so all i really need you to do
  502. [11/12/2015 5:37:41 PM] fabjr23: Is send the money once it hits your account so we can get started. It sucks to have to receive your 400 on the backend
  503. [11/12/2015 5:37:48 PM] fabjr23: So i tell you this....
  504. [11/12/2015 5:38:10 PM] fabjr23: You can keep 150 up front...and send the rest to my team in india via paypal
  505. [11/12/2015 5:38:47 PM] John Paul: yea that works for me, if it works for you.
  506. [11/12/2015 5:38:53 PM] fabjr23: Of course
  507. [11/12/2015 5:38:58 PM] fabjr23: BUt one last thing to keep me in mind
  508. [11/12/2015 5:39:05 PM] fabjr23: You really dont have to do any work tbh
  509. [11/12/2015 5:39:13 PM] fabjr23: Or atleast that much work
  510. [11/12/2015 5:39:16 PM] fabjr23: I just hope i can trust you
  511. [11/12/2015 5:39:21 PM] fabjr23: bcuz once this payment hits
  512. [11/12/2015 5:39:24 PM] fabjr23: We gotta get it rolling
  513. [11/12/2015 5:39:31 PM] fabjr23: LIke ASAP
  514. [11/12/2015 5:39:40 PM] John Paul: wow your design must have been great, and thanks, I’m gonna get he upwork deal set up with the india shop
  515. [11/12/2015 5:39:48 PM] fabjr23: No no no
  516. [11/12/2015 5:39:52 PM] fabjr23: No more upwork
  517. [11/12/2015 5:40:42 PM] fabjr23: All you have to do is send via paypal and we can take it from there
  518. [11/12/2015 5:40:58 PM] fabjr23: The guy told me the upwork escrow will take to long
  519. [11/12/2015 5:41:12 PM] John Paul: ok great
  520. [11/12/2015 5:41:12 PM] fabjr23: My guy in india told me the escrow payment would take about 6 days to process
  521. [11/12/2015 5:41:20 PM] John Paul: send me his paypal
  522. [11/12/2015 5:41:22 PM] fabjr23: So we just need you to paypal the cash once it hits your account
  523. [11/12/2015 5:41:30 PM] John Paul: and ill of it immediately it hits
  524. [11/12/2015 5:41:38 PM] fabjr23: ok cool
  525. [11/12/2015 5:41:47 PM] fabjr23: send as a gift payment
  526. [11/12/2015 5:41:54 PM] John Paul: yea got it
  527. [11/12/2015 5:42:06 PM] fabjr23: Ok give me your paypal im bout to pull the trigger
  528. [11/12/2015 5:42:17 PM] John Paul:
  529. [11/12/2015 5:42:22 PM] John Paul: send me his paypal
  530. [11/12/2015 5:42:40 PM] fabjr23: HOld on give me about 15-20 mins
  531. [11/12/2015 5:43:51 PM] fabjr23: I SENT THE EMAIL
  532. [11/12/2015 5:43:55 PM] fabjr23: YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
  533. [11/12/2015 5:44:03 PM] fabjr23: ITS ABOUT TO BE COMPLETE
  534. [11/12/2015 5:44:14 PM] fabjr23: GIVE ME 15-20
  535. [11/12/2015 5:51:07 PM] fabjr23: yo u there?
  536. [11/12/2015 5:51:12 PM] John Paul: yea
  537. [11/12/2015 5:51:17 PM] fabjr23: ok cool
  538. [11/12/2015 5:51:20 PM] John Paul: is it done?
  539. [11/12/2015 5:51:28 PM] fabjr23: ARe you sure your paypal account can handle 1500 usd?
  540. [11/12/2015 5:51:32 PM] John Paul: yes
  541. [11/12/2015 5:51:36 PM] fabjr23: Ok cool
  542. [11/12/2015 5:52:21 PM] fabjr23: The paypal account he gave me was
  543. [11/12/2015 5:52:42 PM] John Paul: I’m on pp now pull the trigger
  544. [11/12/2015 5:52:52 PM] fabjr23: Im not the one paying you
  545. [11/12/2015 5:52:57 PM] fabjr23: The buyer is going to pay you directly
  546. [11/12/2015 5:53:05 PM] fabjr23: I sent them the email with your paypal info in it
  547. [11/12/2015 5:53:15 PM] John Paul: ok tell him to send the payment
  548. [11/12/2015 5:53:25 PM] fabjr23: Relax brother
  549. [11/12/2015 5:53:28 PM] fabjr23: Its coming
  550. [11/12/2015 5:53:43 PM] fabjr23: If it dont be here by tonight it will be there tomorrow 4sure
  551. [11/12/2015 5:53:48 PM] fabjr23: 4sure 4sure 4sure
  552. [11/12/2015 5:53:49 PM] John Paul: ok I just thought the buyer was ready too
  553. [11/12/2015 5:53:54 PM] fabjr23: 200% 4sure
  554. [11/12/2015 5:54:01 PM] fabjr23: yea we corresponding thru email
  555. [11/12/2015 5:55:22 PM] John Paul: i just sent a dummy 8 cents to confirm, ask if the indian guy got it to verify his address
  556. [11/12/2015 5:55:39 PM] fabjr23: Ok
  557. [11/12/2015 5:55:48 PM] fabjr23: I will get back on here later
  558. [11/12/2015 5:55:54 PM] fabjr23: I wont know anything until they email me back
  559. [11/12/2015 5:56:01 PM] John Paul: alright cool beans
  560. [11/12/2015 5:56:01 PM] fabjr23: THey are like 12 hours behind us
  561. [11/12/2015 5:56:09 PM] fabjr23: when its daylight here its dark there
  562. [11/12/2015 5:56:09 PM] John Paul: oh shit damn
  563. [11/12/2015 5:56:19 PM] fabjr23: when its dark here its daylight there
  564. [11/12/2015 5:56:22 PM] John Paul: australia?
  565. [11/12/2015 5:56:26 PM] fabjr23: india
  566. [11/12/2015 5:56:36 PM] John Paul: oh trueee
  567. [11/12/2015 5:56:48 PM] fabjr23: Im in Seattle washington
  568. [11/12/2015 5:56:48 PM] John Paul: i thought you meant the buyers
  569. [11/12/2015 5:56:54 PM] fabjr23: The buyers are in india
  570. [11/12/2015 5:57:04 PM] fabjr23: So i wont hear a response from them until tonight
  571. [11/12/2015 5:57:24 PM] John Paul: oh say word, you genius, selling indian outsourcing to fellow indians
  572. [11/12/2015 5:57:35 PM] fabjr23: ohhh im confused
  573. [11/12/2015 5:57:38 PM] fabjr23: Im sorry i confused you to
  574. [11/12/2015 5:57:43 PM] fabjr23: The buyers are USA buyers
  575. [11/12/2015 5:57:50 PM] fabjr23: We just will sub contract the work to the indians
  576. [11/12/2015 5:57:54 PM] John Paul: looooooooooool ohhhhhhhhh yea
  577. [11/12/2015 5:58:03 PM] fabjr23: hahahahahahahha
  578. [11/12/2015 5:58:08 PM] fabjr23: that went over my head too
  579. [11/12/2015 5:58:10 PM] John Paul: i was like wth thats like next level super star salesmanship
  580. [11/12/2015 5:58:20 PM] fabjr23: Man tell me about it i wish
  581. [11/12/2015 5:58:31 PM] fabjr23: But shid to sell a 3-500 website for 2250
  582. [11/12/2015 5:58:34 PM] fabjr23: Is kick ass too
  583. [11/12/2015 5:59:24 PM] fabjr23: Il hit you up tonight or when the payment hits
  584. [11/12/2015 6:00:11 PM] John Paul: yea, site keep cool brother
  585. [11/12/2015 6:00:22 PM] fabjr23: you too
  586. [11/13/2015 8:05:41 AM] John Paul: yo payment on deck
  587. [11/13/2015 8:06:33 AM] John Paul: should i send to the indians now?
  588. [11/13/2015 8:10:01 AM] John Paul: gift payment?
  589. [11/13/2015 8:10:13 AM | Edited 8:14:25 AM] John Paul: fab goop on deck
  590. [11/13/2015 8:16:43 AM] John Paul: stayed up all night for the ping on my pp, got it and just sent the money to the indians
  591. [11/13/2015 8:22:41 AM] John Paul: fees ate a lot of the money tell the buyers to gift the next payment, this was fucking ridiculous
  592. [11/13/2015 8:43:11 AM] fabjr23: Good morning
  593. [11/13/2015 8:43:26 AM] fabjr23: DId you send the payment to
  594. [11/13/2015 8:43:27 AM] John Paul: yo whats good
  595. [11/13/2015 8:43:28 AM] fabjr23: ?
  596. [11/13/2015 8:43:31 AM] John Paul: yea I did
  597. [11/13/2015 8:43:34 AM] fabjr23: Ok cool
  598. [11/13/2015 8:43:36 AM] fabjr23: You up early
  599. [11/13/2015 8:43:42 AM] fabjr23: How much did you send ?
  600. [11/13/2015 8:44:50 AM] John Paul: I stayed up, 1300, i got 1450 cause paypal ate fees because the buyer didn’t send a gift to me. but i gifted the indian
  601. [11/13/2015 8:45:17 AM] fabjr23: Ok cool
  602. [11/13/2015 8:45:22 AM] fabjr23: NOw lets get to work
  603. [11/13/2015 8:45:26 AM] fabjr23: I just woke up
  604. [11/13/2015 8:45:32 AM] fabjr23: Im about to get in contact with the indians now
  605. [11/13/2015 8:45:39 AM] fabjr23: ANd check my email etc
  606. [11/13/2015 8:45:47 AM] fabjr23: You see that im up early lol
  607. [11/13/2015 8:45:51 AM] John Paul: yes man
  608. [11/13/2015 8:46:07 AM] fabjr23: Ok imma check back in with you in about an hour
  609. [11/13/2015 8:46:12 AM] fabjr23: Give you update etc
  610. [11/13/2015 8:46:24 AM] John Paul: aite cool
  611. [11/13/2015 8:46:27 AM] fabjr23: Thnx man
  612. [11/13/2015 8:46:31 AM] fabjr23: I really appreciate it
  613. [11/13/2015 8:46:36 AM] John Paul: no prob
  614. [11/13/2015 8:46:45 AM] John Paul: just let me know
  615. [11/13/2015 8:46:48 AM] fabjr23: ok thnx
  616. [11/14/2015 9:58:51 AM] John Paul: Yo fab what is going on? I just got another payment of 1500
  617. [11/14/2015 9:59:21 AM] John Paul: from some claire prager
  618. [11/14/2015 12:28:36 PM] John Paul: yo fab you there
  619. [11/14/2015 3:13:24 PM] John Paul: yo fab
  620. [11/14/2015 3:13:45 PM] fabjr23: Yes
  621. [11/14/2015 3:14:03 PM] John Paul: I got another payment for $1500
  622. [11/14/2015 3:14:05 PM] fabjr23: send 1k to theresaterry21@gmail.com
  623. [11/14/2015 3:14:14 PM] fabjr23: oops
  624. [11/14/2015 3:14:26 PM] fabjr23: I mean 1200 to theresaterry21@gmail.com gift payment
  625. [11/14/2015 3:14:35 PM] fabjr23: I meant to tell you that payment was coming thru
  626. [11/14/2015 3:14:43 PM] John Paul: oh alright
  627. [11/14/2015 3:14:48 PM] fabjr23: let me know once sent
  628. [11/14/2015 3:14:53 PM] John Paul: yea
  629. [11/14/2015 3:15:06 PM] fabjr23: I know you are a happy camper
  630. [11/14/2015 3:15:17 PM] John Paul: wasyyyyyyyy more than happy
  631. [11/14/2015 3:15:44 PM] fabjr23: handle that business brother
  632. [11/14/2015 3:19:27 PM] John Paul: You guys will get this work done right
  633. [11/14/2015 3:19:38 PM] John Paul: I don’t wanna move money and be accountable
  634. [11/14/2015 3:19:49 PM] John Paul: its done, tell him payment is sent
  635. [11/14/2015 3:19:52 PM] fabjr23: of course
  636. [11/14/2015 3:19:58 PM] fabjr23: Ok we are working on it
  637. [11/14/2015 3:20:06 PM] fabjr23: Im going to keep you updated every step of the way
  638. [11/14/2015 3:20:14 PM] fabjr23: Its the weekend now
  639. [11/14/2015 3:20:21 PM] fabjr23: Everything should be completed by tuesday or weds
  640. [11/14/2015 3:20:24 PM] fabjr23: And oh no
  641. [11/14/2015 3:20:29 PM] fabjr23: you see it took a while to get it done
  642. [11/14/2015 3:20:34 PM] fabjr23: Thats because we are doing serious business
  643. [11/14/2015 3:20:40 PM] John Paul: ok sent the money
  644. [11/14/2015 3:20:45 PM] fabjr23: Ok one sec
  645. [11/14/2015 3:21:22 PM] John Paul: if there are more payments tell them to do it in gifts, paypal fees are too crazy
  646. [11/14/2015 3:21:44 PM] fabjr23: ikr
  647. [11/14/2015 3:21:49 PM] fabjr23: DId you gift it as well?
  648. [11/14/2015 3:22:02 PM] John Paul: yea
  649. [11/14/2015 3:22:12 PM] fabjr23: ok cool
  650. [11/14/2015 3:23:19 PM] John Paul: yep
  651. [11/14/2015 3:24:18 PM] John Paul: Ive been waking up a happy guy everyday, can i see the mocks to see how the site is gonna look, I’m actually excited, if you guys need help with SEO, I can get you top rankings with a friends pbn
  652. [11/14/2015 5:19:32 PM] fabjr23: of course
  653. [11/14/2015 5:19:37 PM] fabjr23: You are good @ seo?
  654. [11/14/2015 5:19:43 PM] fabjr23: Wow that is freaking amazing
  655. [11/14/2015 11:20:49 PM] John Paul: Yea I dabbled in it with a partner from 2010-2013 we ran a top wso for seo and did well but we both took a break after it became too much work. If you can give me the niche or a few target keys you guys are trying to rank I'll see what I can do
  656. [11/15/2015 10:36:43 AM] fabjr23: We got a problem
  657. [11/15/2015 10:37:06 AM] fabjr23: R u there?
  658. [11/15/2015 11:06:44 AM] John Paul: yea
  659. [11/15/2015 11:06:51 AM] John Paul: whats the problem?
  660. [11/15/2015 11:07:09 AM] fabjr23: I shorted the Indians 150 usd
  661. [11/15/2015 11:07:23 AM] fabjr23: They have been on my case all night
  662. [11/15/2015 11:07:32 AM] fabjr23: Even this morning
  663. [11/15/2015 11:09:22 AM] fabjr23: Over a small petty ass 150
  664. [11/15/2015 11:09:30 AM] John Paul: I put in every note, since the money sent to me by jeff and claire weren’t gifted, paypal took off $70 each time in fees, thats 140 off the table. I even put it in the notes for them
  665. [11/15/2015 11:09:37 AM] John Paul: in each payment
  666. [11/15/2015 11:09:43 AM] John Paul: thats wack
  667. [11/15/2015 11:09:56 AM] fabjr23: Wack as Fuck
  668. [11/15/2015 11:10:18 AM] fabjr23: They saw that and are still bitchin
  669. [11/15/2015 11:10:35 AM] fabjr23: Puts me in a tough position
  670. [11/15/2015 11:10:40 AM] fabjr23: I don't have 150
  671. [11/15/2015 11:11:05 AM] John Paul: tell them its paypal fees. that if I didn’t gift the payment to them, they would lost $100 more so they should feel lucky
  672. [11/15/2015 11:11:26 AM] fabjr23: Ok well I jus wanna save face
  673. [11/15/2015 11:11:28 AM] John Paul: I came out with 385 after fees and you don’t see me bitching
  674. [11/15/2015 11:12:18 AM] fabjr23: Can we at least send them 75 usd ? Something jus to get them off my tail ?
  675. [11/15/2015 11:12:31 AM] fabjr23: I really hate to cut into ur profit
  676. [11/15/2015 11:13:03 AM] fabjr23: It would take me damn near a week to recoup that 150
  677. [11/15/2015 11:14:09 AM] John Paul: yea thats cool. this time I’m not gifting shit cause they’re just being dicks, let them see how fees taste.
  678. [11/15/2015 11:15:27 AM] fabjr23: Nahh don't do that pls
  679. [11/15/2015 11:15:44 AM] fabjr23: Even when u sent as gift fees were still taken out
  680. [11/15/2015 11:15:53 AM] fabjr23: I guess because of ur currency
  681. [11/15/2015 11:16:26 AM] fabjr23: Send as gift. I'm trying to come out of pocket to make up for the other 75 usd
  682. [11/15/2015 11:16:46 AM] John Paul: wtf really? i thought gifts fees don’t get taken out...
  683. [11/15/2015 11:16:54 AM] John Paul: I send it.
  684. [11/15/2015 11:17:28 AM] fabjr23: You sent via gift ?
  685. [11/15/2015 11:17:48 AM] fabjr23: And that's wat I thought too
  686. [11/15/2015 11:18:24 AM] fabjr23: ?
  687. [11/15/2015 11:19:15 AM] John Paul: yea
  688. [11/15/2015 11:19:23 AM] John Paul: and lets talk about the seo
  689. [11/15/2015 11:19:37 AM] fabjr23: Ok cool shoot me some ideas
  690. [11/15/2015 11:20:17 AM] John Paul: what niche of commerce are they in, fashion/clothing(mens and women), unique products, makeup?
  691. [11/15/2015 11:20:54 AM] fabjr23: They are close to sammydress.com
  692. [11/15/2015 11:21:04 AM] fabjr23: Like damn near identical
  693. [11/15/2015 11:21:15 AM] fabjr23: In terms of products
  694. [11/15/2015 11:22:04 AM] John Paul: holy fuck, thats crazy, a few weeks ago my friend told me about sammydress and I got 3 jackets not here for winter.....small world
  695. [11/15/2015 11:22:26 AM] John Paul: I’m gonna run a report on sammydress.com to see the keywords that are bringing them traffic
  696. [11/15/2015 11:22:30 AM] John Paul: gimme a sec
  697. [11/15/2015 11:22:32 AM] fabjr23: Sammydress is the shit
  698. [11/15/2015 11:22:44 AM] fabjr23: They got some cheap dope gear on there
  699. [11/15/2015 11:25:32 AM] John Paul: cheap dresses, cheap boots,vintage dresses, wholesale clothing, wholesale jewelry, are some banger keywords that account for 25% of sammydresses unbranded search traffic
  700. [11/15/2015 11:26:35 AM] John Paul: they’re all pretty competitive keys
  701. [11/15/2015 11:29:46 AM] John Paul: and if we branch out cheap prom dresses and dresses are huge keywords with massive buyer traffic, theres a lot of female focused marketing with sammy dress wtf i didn’t know that, they almost exclusively target women, may cause women shop more, they barely target male keys
  702. [11/15/2015 11:35:46 AM] John Paul: I can’t do much else, until I see what were working with
  703. [11/15/2015 11:36:34 AM] John Paul: the domain (age, indexing etc), site infrastructure and design, domain or site set history, etc,
  704. [11/15/2015 11:28:00 PM] John Paul: lemme know cause i can hook up sen and we can make bank with it
  705. [11/16/2015 4:33:33 PM] John Paul: yo fab?
  706. [11/16/2015 4:52:46 PM] fabjr23: Yooo
  707. [11/16/2015 4:53:13 PM] John Paul: you see my previous messages
  708. [11/16/2015 4:53:29 PM] fabjr23: Yea. Ur a highly intelligent guy
  709. [11/16/2015 4:53:38 PM] fabjr23: I'm very proud to be on ur team
  710. [11/16/2015 4:55:07 PM] John Paul: how invested are these guys in making the site big because I can do huge stuff on traffic acquisition with seo but i need a solid budget to work with
  711. [11/16/2015 4:55:29 PM] fabjr23: I'd have to run it by them.
  712. [11/16/2015 4:55:33 PM] fabjr23: But tbh
  713. [11/16/2015 4:55:50 PM] fabjr23: I would start my personal projects with u
  714. [11/16/2015 4:56:02 PM] fabjr23: And let u seo my shit
  715. [11/16/2015 4:56:13 PM] fabjr23: Send me a link to ur portfolio
  716. [11/16/2015 4:56:47 PM] fabjr23: Wat type of budget we talking ?
  717. [11/16/2015 4:59:53 PM] John Paul: yea ill email you all the rankings history for the sites we ranked for customers etc...if the guys wanna go ahead with the seo... It really depends on what keywords they decide I should focus on, I tend to pick 10 keywords with solid monthly traffic and I can rank top 10 for all of them in about 2-3 months.....and about $500-$1000
  718. [11/17/2015 5:36:46 PM] John Paul: you on fab?
  719. [11/17/2015 8:26:16 PM] John Paul: you guys done the site?
  720. [11/18/2015 12:16:26 AM] fabjr23: Yoo
  721. [11/18/2015 6:16:08 PM] John Paul: fab wtf i just got a char back request bro, don’t tell me you shafted me
  722. [11/18/2015 6:16:30 PM] John Paul: I have screenshots and stuff, wtf happened man
  723. [11/18/2015 6:16:47 PM] John Paul: im gonna send them in a bit, unless you reply now
  724. [11/18/2015 6:38:58 PM] John Paul: FAB
  725. [11/18/2015 6:39:00 PM] John Paul: FAB
  726. [11/18/2015 10:21:07 PM] John Paul: this guys or gal is filing a chargeback, I'm not trying to taint my perfect record on paypal. The money will be traced and returned if you don't fix this with the guy or tell me whats really up? this isn't right man.
  727. [11/19/2015 12:18:07 AM] fabjr23: Hello
  728. [11/19/2015 8:12:27 AM] John Paul: yo
  729. [11/19/2015 8:13:21 AM] John Paul: you talk to the buyer
  730. [11/19/2015 9:22:55 AM] fabjr23: I can't believe they charged back
  731. [11/19/2015 9:21:07 PM] John Paul: yo talk to them
  732. [11/19/2015 9:21:18 PM] John Paul: why did they do it?
  733. [11/19/2015 10:13:19 PM] John Paul: we have to fix this
  734. [11/20/2015 12:10:44 AM] John Paul: yo
  735. [11/20/2015 12:40:32 AM] John Paul: be on at 8-ish tomorrow
  736. [11/20/2015 8:08:53 AM] John Paul: yo fab
  737. [11/20/2015 8:37:48 AM] John Paul: yo are the people legit cause the credit card company issued the chargeback
  738. [11/20/2015 8:38:08 AM] John Paul: for an unauthorized payment
  739. [11/20/2015 9:26:34 AM] fabjr23: They some bitches for that
  740. [11/20/2015 9:26:55 AM] fabjr23: I didn't shaft u bro not at all
  741. [11/20/2015 9:27:04 AM] John Paul: ok cool
  742. [11/20/2015 9:27:24 AM] John Paul: yea this is messing up the balance, did you guys deliver?
  743. [11/20/2015 9:27:28 AM] John Paul: ask them
  744. [11/20/2015 9:27:43 AM] fabjr23: I was just about to ask u
  745. [11/20/2015 9:28:09 AM] fabjr23: If we send you the website can u fight the charge ?
  746. [11/20/2015 9:28:46 AM] fabjr23: What is paypal saying ?
  747. [11/20/2015 9:29:49 AM] John Paul: yea.
  748. [11/20/2015 9:29:54 AM] John Paul: ask the buyer first
  749. [11/20/2015 9:30:07 AM] John Paul: if they are either unsatisfied
  750. [11/20/2015 9:30:22 AM] John Paul: or if they notified their credit card company about the payment
  751. [11/20/2015 9:30:35 AM] fabjr23: Ok got u
  752. [11/20/2015 9:30:48 AM] fabjr23: What Is paypal saying ?
  753. [11/20/2015 9:31:00 AM] fabjr23: Only that one buyer charged back correct ?;
  754. [11/20/2015 9:31:08 AM] John Paul: yea claire prager
  755. [11/20/2015 9:31:39 AM] fabjr23: Ok I'm on top of it
  756. [11/20/2015 9:31:52 AM] fabjr23: Ur account isn't frozen is it ?
  757. [11/20/2015 9:32:17 AM] John Paul: no, but its at a negative balance
  758. [11/20/2015 9:32:32 AM] fabjr23: We will fix
  759. [11/20/2015 9:32:56 AM] fabjr23: Were u able to get ur money out before that happened ?
  760. [11/20/2015 9:33:11 AM] John Paul: naw which is why i got worried
  761. [11/20/2015 9:33:57 AM] fabjr23: Damn
  762. [11/20/2015 9:34:04 AM] fabjr23: I'm sorry man
  763. [11/20/2015 9:34:15 AM] fabjr23: Il get back to yo u in a few hours
  764. [11/20/2015 9:34:46 AM] John Paul: yea man, thanks and dw about it, once the chargeback is fixed, ill be back in the green
  765. [11/21/2015 12:34:11 PM] John Paul: How did it go
  766. [11/21/2015 12:34:28 PM] John Paul: You talk to them?
  767. [11/21/2015 11:59:56 PM] John Paul: yo fab no word?
  768. [11/22/2015 2:38:22 PM] John Paul: I have another payment coming in to my account, i need this fixed today man
  769. [11/22/2015 7:34:42 PM] John Paul: Yo I'm gonna file the case today. you are taking too long for a matter this urgent man
  770. [11/23/2015 10:24:37 AM] John Paul: Yo man, did you guys deliver
  771. [11/23/2015 10:24:51 AM] John Paul: fab why are you too distant now man
  772. [11/24/2015 7:49:07 AM] John Paul: yo fab
  773. [11/24/2015 7:49:21 AM] John Paul: where ya at bro
  774. [11/24/2015 7:49:39 AM] John Paul: you say you didn’t shaft but you’re nowhere to be found
  775. [12/22/2015 4:21:43 PM] John Paul: trusted you man
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