+Quite Quiet: ~workshop new, disjunction
 SuperEpicAmpharos: bro lets do NU doubles
+HJAD: sub qd sleep hurricane
#Disjunction: oh
#Disjunction: I forgot
+Quite Quiet: dis... :(
 Silver YM: so guys
#Disjunction: lmao
+Blast Chance: i like endeavor 2 attacks
+Blast Chance: sleep powder
#Disjunction: there's a lot to keep track of!
 based comrade: Disjunction give me voiced for a day for a test atleast
 SuperEpicAmpharos: and use friend guard with sleep powder
 Silver YM: So which mon will it be?
+HJAD: i think blast
 RADicate: steel walls it like a mofo
+HJAD: if we are building around a mon
+Quite Quiet: we're building with vivillon
+Blaziken1337: oh GyRro, congrats on voice
#Disjunction: ok for the sake of logs we're building with Vivillon
+HJAD: shouldnt it be the sweeper?
 Silver YM: RADicate hp fire
#Disjunction: I prefer Energy Ball
+Blast Chance: not necessarily
+GyRro: thanks blaziken n_n
#Disjunction: ~workshop add Vivillon
+HJAD: ik not neccesarily
 Silver YM: so viv
+HJAD: but it would be easier to understand no?
 Silver YM: sleep powder ?
#Disjunction: I think Endeavor Vivillon is a bit harder to play with
 TeamTestingFTW: sleep powder and hurricane are a must
#Disjunction: for some users
 Silver YM: the lead set
 RADicate: sleep powder, quiver dance, hurricane
 TeamTestingFTW: just discuss the other two moveslots lol
 RADicate: and?
#Disjunction: Energy Ball is more intuitive
+Blaziken1337: ^
+Blast Chance: yeah i suppose hjad
+Quite Quiet: you don't build around sash endeavor vivillon anyway
 Silver YM: Disjunction rhydon walls it so energy ball is best to do
+HJAD: its kind of a utility mon
+HJAD: sleep something, endeavour something else
+HJAD: ez clean for [x]
+HJAD: i like qd sleep
 RADicate: ^
#Disjunction: I mean Sleep / QD / Hurricane
+HJAD: question is
#Disjunction: is standard
 RADicate: energy ball imo disjunction
+HJAD: sub or energy ball?
+Pokedots: so energy ball I guess
#Disjunction: I say EBall
 RADicate: for the last slot
#Disjunction: so yea
 Silver YM: Disjunction energy ball imo
+Pokedots: I don't like sub
+Blast Chance: eball
+Blaziken1337: eball
 Plaessynplaeae: but klinklang is a counter
+GyRro: E ball imo
#Disjunction: how do we want to approach the rest of the team
 Plaessynplaeae: to hurriane + e ball
 Silver YM: Disjunction becuz rhydon is to common
+Blast Chance: i don't think sub is good
 RADicate: steal types counter
+HJAD: lure magmortar
+Blast Chance: at all rn
 fssong: bug spam is pretty cool
+HJAD: kill the rest of it
 TeamTestingFTW: let's build balance
 RADicate: so we need a fire/fighting type
+HJAD: hyper offense imo
 RADicate: so stop the steel counter
+Rapture's Finest: offense would be crisp
 TeamTestingFTW: offense is harder for new players ;-;
+HJAD: we always build balance
 RADicate: Sawk is good rn
#Disjunction: yeah I kinda like offense
+Rapture's Finest: how? you just click moves lmao
#Disjunction: so let's talk a bit about partners
#Disjunction: I like offense
+HJAD: i like pursuit tauros
#Disjunction: so let's just go with that
+HJAD: on offense
+Pokedots: I'd say balance is easier for new players since you have a defensive core to fall back on
#Disjunction: I don't see how Pursuit Tauros helps Viv
+Pokedots: but yeah tauros is a good partner
+HJAD: magmortar
+Blast Chance: i don't want to build balance
+Blast Chance: every time
#Disjunction: ^
+Pokedots: not necessarily pursuit
+HJAD: ^
+Rapture's Finest: same
+Pokedots: yeah I agree I was just saying balance is easier
+Pokedots: ;_;
+HJAD: pursuit tauros traps av magmortars
+HJAD: main counters
+HJAD: kinda
+Pokedots: it also traps rotom I guess
+Pokedots: but eh
#Disjunction: mm
+Pokedots: .-.
 lolbro: hello
#Disjunction: let's just roll with
+HJAD: 252 Atk Life Orb Tauros Pursuit vs. 104 HP / 0 Def Magmortar: 133-156 (41.9 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 lolbro: ^.^
+Pokedots: tauros is a good partner though, we can just run standard set
#Disjunction: Tauros for now
 SuperEpicAmpharos: hey bro
#Disjunction: I think Magmortar will be easier to handle
#Disjunction: than we're letting on
 Silver YM: Disjunction rt
+Blaziken1337: what should we do 4th slot on tauros though
#Disjunction: I dont think Pursuit is necessary
+Blaziken1337: rock slide, iron head, zen
#Disjunction: Zen
+Pokedots: just fire blast for now
 lolbro: no stab?
#Disjunction: is the best on it
 lolbro: pj
+HJAD: i mean if we run ho
+Pokedots: oh yeah zen lol
+HJAD: we can just run 5 mons
+Blaziken1337: fire blast is slow 3
+Blast Chance: just standard for know
+Blaziken1337: *slot
+Blaziken1337: isn't it
+HJAD: that beat magmortar
+Blast Chance: now*
 RADicate: If we are building around Vivi, we need something for steel types
 RADicate: they wall vivi
+HJAD: kinda
 RADicate: since we arent running HP fire
 Silver YM: assault vest mag or with lo wisp
+Pokedots: we could run torterra as sr setter
+HJAD: steel types are rare
+Pokedots: maybe
+Pokedots: also switches into rocks
#Disjunction: the only mon we have to prep for is Klink
+Pokedots: and lanturn
 lolbro: steel types aren't really relevant
 lolbro: but rock types
 io-io-san: you rly don't have to go out of the way to prep for any steel besides kk
#Disjunction: well in terms of steels anyhow
 lolbro: and rocks
+HJAD: i like specs lanturn
 SuperEpicAmpharos: ^
 SuperEpicAmpharos: I approve
+HJAD: pivot switch on
#Disjunction: :/
+HJAD: fire types
#Disjunction: specs lanturn
 SuperEpicAmpharos: Specs lanturn or riot
#Disjunction: doesn't switch into fires lol
#Disjunction: it looks slow
 lolbro: but specs lanturn takes too much from py's hvoice
#Disjunction: like it's strong but I don't think it fits
+HJAD: im assuming
 lolbro: and mag's eq
+HJAD: we are running
+HJAD: pursuit on tauros
 Silver YM: mag with eq lo
#Disjunction: we aren't running Pursuit on Tauros
+HJAD: slow pivot---> pursuit tauros
#Disjunction: I don't think it's necessary
 Silver YM: i liked the pursuit tsuros
 Silver YM: Disjunction mismag?
 lolbro: pursuit isn't really necessary tho
 lolbro: it doesn't even 2hit
#Disjunction: ~workshop add Tauros
+Jarii: What you guys think of Specs pyroar of LO pyroar with will-o?
 SuperEpicAmpharos: Lets just use specs lanturn and not argue :P
 RADicate: i perfer LO
 Silver YM: i prefer lo
 SuperEpicAmpharos: specs pyroar is god
+HJAD: we need something
+Blast Chance: why would we "not argue"
 lolbro: why are we just saying
+Jarii: Like i think that helps the team with the steel types
+HJAD: for
 lolbro: random things
+HJAD: rhydon
 SuperEpicAmpharos: Screw will-o, use hyper beam
#Disjunction: ok so
#Disjunction: everyone is screaming
#Disjunction: about "we need this we need this!"
#Disjunction: so I'm nominating Pokedots as my cohost
@Pokedots: D:
@Pokedots: ok
#Disjunction: he and I will be deciding what the next thing to prepare for is
@Pokedots: how about torterra?
#Disjunction: you guys are going to help us fill those niches
@Pokedots: sr setter, lanturn check, rock check, kk check
+HJAD: i like terra
 Based Loser: ^
+HJAD: good rhydon check
 Silver YM: terra with sr wood hammer eq filler lo
#Disjunction: just tankterra?
 based comrade: torterra is amazing
+Jarii: Like 3 attacks torterra?
#Disjunction: I don't mind that
+HJAD: 252 HP / 252 Atk
 Silver YM: or synthesis
+GyRro: or two and synthesis y
 Silver YM: With synthesis
#Disjunction: 252 HP/128 Atk+/128 Def
+HJAD: or more defensive
#Disjunction: is the best spread
 lolbro: what does 128+/128 do
@Pokedots: wallbreaker 3 atatcks terra
+Quite Quiet: if you're using max hp, at least run the 128 def to dodge 2hko from kanga
+Rapture's Finest: true
 Silver YM: hp ice
@Pokedots: also sounds fun
+Quite Quiet: or w/e it is you avoided with that
#Disjunction: ~workshop add Tank Torterra
+Blast Chance: ugh this team looks so similar to something i already have
+Rapture's Finest: lol
+Blaziken1337: lol
 lolbro: lol
 Silver YM: lol
 TeamTestingFTW: lol
+HJAD: combo breaker
 lolbro: lol
#Disjunction: ok cohost Pokedots
#Disjunction: I like Tort
#Disjunction: but where should we go from here
+HJAD: what do you guys think about
@Pokedots: we lose to archeops D:
+HJAD: a fire check
@Pokedots: fires too
 Based Loser: Special attacker
 Silver YM: Pokedots we can use rhydn
#Disjunction: Archeops is more important to prep for
+Blaziken1337: ~~coba berry torterra~~
#Disjunction: just don't give Fires a free switch in
 TeamTestingFTW: carracosta?
 lolbro: ^
+Quite Quiet: well, you also lose to swellow :(
+Blaziken1337: carracosta then
 lolbro: costa checks all three
+Blaziken1337: or lanturn I guess
+HJAD: barbaracle?
 TeamTestingFTW: smash costa is fun
 lolbro: lanturn is 2 hit
#Disjunction: if we're prepped for flyers we'll be prepped for swellow
+HJAD: i prefer it to costa
 lolbro: by eq
#Disjunction: but we're building offense guys
+Blaziken1337: shuca lanturn ez
 SuperEpicAmpharos: lets use specs xatu with giga drain :P
 Based Loser: Lapras
 lolbro: blaze
 lolbro: didn't we run shuca lanturn on a team
+Blaziken1337: y
 lolbro: and it put in work
+Blaziken1337: y
 SuperEpicAmpharos: shuca lanturn
 SuperEpicAmpharos: I'm about to puke
+HJAD: archeops still outspeeds 2/3 of our mons
 SuperEpicAmpharos: trash can anybody?
 lolbro: and ties the other...
+Blaziken1337: costa with aj then
+Blaziken1337: perhaps
 Based Loser: True Blaziken .
+GyRro: would be a safer check then barb
#Disjunction: I wouldn't mind an AJ user
+GyRro: sounds good to me
#Disjunction: but I'd rather it be Kabu or Samu
+HJAD: sd samu
#Disjunction: Samu is way more threatening than Costa rn
+Rapture's Finest: samu could work as a check tbh
+HJAD: sets up on donner
@Pokedots: I like kabu on this team
#Disjunction: but Kabu provides spin
 lolbro: but kabu dies when it spins
 lolbro: :////
 Silver YM: yea rt Disjunction
+HJAD: its not a reliable spinner
+Blaziken1337: kabu is a better check to cheops and swellow though
+HJAD: so unless you wanna double up on hazards control
+GyRro: floatsel could outspeed archeops too
+Blast Chance: i mean can we really afford reliable spinners
+GyRro: which would be nice
+Blast Chance: on offense
 lolbro: shuca kabu
 lolbro: y/n
@Pokedots: I'd rather run kabu and then something like special defog skunk
+HJAD: yeah
+HJAD: we need to double up on hazards control
 lolbro: what is the team, so far?
 Based Loser: Floatzel is a good one , good thinkin' Gyreo
#Disjunction: idk if we need to double up
@Pokedots: we could also just run sd kabu
#Disjunction: ~workshop team
 lolbro: ty
 Based Loser: gyrro *
+Blast Chance: yeah if we run skunk
+Blast Chance: idt we need to double up
 lolbro: ^
#Disjunction: we could just run mons that prevent other rockers from setting up
+HJAD: pressure the rock setters
@Pokedots: special defog skunk also pairs really well with tauros
 lolbro: SD Kabu+Special Skunk
#Disjunction: I don't mind Defog Skunk
+HJAD: actually yeah
+HJAD: defog special skunk
 lolbro: threatens most rockers
+HJAD: sounds fine
#Disjunction: if we're going Skunk I'd rather go Samu then
 lolbro: why
+Rapture's Finest: yea
#Disjunction: because Samu is a much more effective sweeper
 lolbro: we'd still be weak to flyers
+Rapture's Finest: we have priority its all good
#Disjunction: Kabu doesn't switch into any Flyers anyhow
+HJAD: samu isnt switching into flyers
 lolbro: but weak armor
 lolbro: could help check them
 Silver YM: rt lolbro
 Based Loser: Probopass .
#Disjunction: it's offense anyways
@Pokedots: I think I still prefer kabu
 TeamTestingFTW: I'd rather use swift swim
+HJAD: if we run
@Pokedots: for a soft check
 lolbro: probo is too slow
 lolbro: for offense
 TeamTestingFTW: to somehow check rain
+HJAD: a couple mons faster than
+HJAD: swellow
 lolbro: like what
+HJAD: we should be ok
 lolbro: ninjask and electrode
+HJAD: problem: there arent any
#Disjunction: hmm alright
#Disjunction: Kabu seems ok
 Based Loser: I just read that Dis said it was offensive .
 TeamTestingFTW: but there are choice scarfers
 Silver YM: Disjunction kabu checks rain offense
 Silver YM: choice scarf rotom
+HJAD: we could run weak armor
#Disjunction: ~workshop add Special Defog Skuntank
+HJAD: but then it isnt a good rain check
#Disjunction: ~workshop add SD Kabutops
#Disjunction: I prefer Swift Swim
+Blast Chance: ~workshop team
 Silver YM: nice team
 lolbro: still need
@Pokedots: ok so what are we weak to so far
 lolbro: the crucial fire check
@Pokedots: might want a fire check
 Silver YM: Sawk?
 SuperEpicAmpharos: no lanturn
+HJAD: norms, fires
 lolbro: and we lack a real fire switch in
@Pokedots: better one I mean
@Pokedots: and fighting types definitely
+Rapture's Finest: Sawk is best fire check
 lolbro: ^^^
+Blaziken1337: speed would be nice
 SuperEpicAmpharos: I'm so disappointed.
@Pokedots: though most of our mons beat sawk
@Pokedots: 1v1
 lolbro: not jolly
+Blaziken1337: well actually we have tauros I guess we're fine
 Silver YM: Rapture's Finest no sawk is can destroy that team
+Blaziken1337: swellow is kinda scary though
+Blaziken1337: and fighting types
+Blaziken1337: ~~rotom~~
+HJAD: mismagius?
 lolbro: rotom doesn't check
 TeamTestingFTW: what checks fightings on offense?
 Silver YM: HJAD mismag is good
 lolbro: boomburst low
#Disjunction: I've been looking at Magius
 Doyle Freedom: haunter's kinda scary as well
@Pokedots: we could use colbur rotom?
@Pokedots: we have skunk
 lolbro: nobody uses haunter
 lolbro: and we have skunk
@Pokedots: haunter isn't really a problem
 lolbro: smh
+HJAD: yeah
+Rapture's Finest: colbur rotom sounds fun
+HJAD: a lot of our team beat it
#Disjunction: idk if I want to run offense
#Disjunction: where 4 mons are under base 100speed
 lolbro: ^^
 Based Loser: Lol
#Disjunction: Missy seems to fit well
#Disjunction: we could run NP Wisp
+HJAD: stallbreaker mismag?
 lolbro: NP/SB/WoW/Taunt
 lolbro: or taunt hex
#Disjunction: do we need Stallbreaker?
+HJAD: we have viv
#Disjunction: ^
 lolbro: ^
 lolbro: was about to say
+HJAD: but otherwise everything loses to stall
 lolbro: SD Kabu+Viv
 Silver YM: sd kabu
 lolbro: overpowers most stall
+HJAD: kabu is walled by quagsire
 lolbro: but viv is not
#Disjunction: or tort
+Blast Chance: idk if we're not running endeavor
 lolbro: unless burn
 lolbro: ~workshop team
+Blast Chance: something to beat stall might be nice
+Blast Chance: ~workshop team
@Pokedots: ~workshop team
@Pokedots: :(
 lolbro: lol
+Blast Chance: 8)
 lolbro: B)
 Silver YM: nice team guys
#Disjunction: btw I'm running
#Disjunction: Dread Plate Skunk
#Disjunction: because honestly tired of losing to msuh
 lolbro: special dread plate
 lolbro: do we still ohko
 lolbro: sire
 lolbro: with hp grqass
 lolbro: *grass
#Disjunction: ok I'm running
#Disjunction: Ebelt
 Silver YM: rt lolbro
#Disjunction: sorry I'm filling in sets now
#Disjunction: seeing if we're missing something
 Silver YM: ebelt is good 2
#Disjunction: uhhh
 lolbro: err
 lolbro: how do we break
 lolbro: mdino
#Disjunction: viv
 lolbro: **crodino
 TeamTestingFTW: iron tail tauros
@Pokedots: worst case iron head tauros
@Pokedots: 3HKOs
 lolbro: fair
 Based Loser: IH >>> IT
 lolbro: and sd kabu
@Pokedots: also do we want sucker or fire blast on skunk
 lolbro: kinda sets up
 TeamTestingFTW: fire blast is neat
@Pokedots: I'd rather have sucker
 Based Loser: M^
@Pokedots: but not sure I want to give up blast
 TeamTestingFTW: but we can run it on tauros
 lolbro: special defog runs fblast/hpgrass/stab/defog
 lolbro: no1?
 lolbro: *no?
 TeamTestingFTW: if ferroseed looks annoying
 lolbro: is fire blast an ohko
 lolbro: on seed?
 TeamTestingFTW: no
 Based Loser: no
 Silver YM: no lolbro
+HJAD: dbond mismag?
@Pokedots: expert belt
@Pokedots: ohkos
@Pokedots: seed
@Pokedots: if modest
 Silver YM: HJAD iam in the custap dbond mood
@Pokedots: we should use colbur
#Disjunction: oh yes we're definitely running
#Disjunction: Fire Blast
#Disjunction: n_n
#Disjunction: sorry got distracted
@Pokedots: archeops and swellow look more annoying if no sucker
@Pokedots: so idk
#Disjunction: hmm
 Based Loser: Ditas is right .
 Based Loser: Dots *
 Silver YM: Archeops reks or team
 SuperEpicAmpharos: need gourgeist :P
+GyRro: we have two mons with priority
 lolbro: no
 SuperEpicAmpharos: Gourgeist can eat hits 4 daise
+GyRro: one being aj
 lolbro: stop listing rndom mons
+HJAD: kabutops is a fine one time check
+HJAD: but i honestly think swellow is more of the problem
+Blaziken1337: ^
+HJAD: since it outspeeds all of our team
 SuperEpicAmpharos: Gourgeist isn't random.
 lolbro: we could run down
 lolbro: *don
#Disjunction: we could run Flame Charge Mag
#Disjunction: and replace something else
 SuperEpicAmpharos: Gourgeist is just amazing.
#Disjunction: sorry that was a weird chain of thought to get to av mag lmao
 lolbro: charge mag then replace tort with don?
#Disjunction: cause I was thinking how we get destroyed by Lilli
#Disjunction: honestly the more I'm looking at this team the more I want to replace kabu with samu
 lolbro: with a skuntank
 lolbro: and a vivillon
+HJAD: we could do
+HJAD: piloswine
+HJAD: > torterra
@Pokedots: ~workshop team
#Disjunction: tort is too good of a klink check
#Disjunction: which otherwise shits down our throat
 lolbro: (puke)
@Pokedots: I think pilosiwne, something over kabu, and then something last slot could work
+HJAD: yeah but then we dont need to worry about flyers
+HJAD: for slot 6
 lolbro: thing is
 lolbro: how does pilo switch in
 lolbro: and it has no recovery
+HJAD: it doesnt need to switch in
@Pokedots: pilo is an ok switch in
+HJAD: ice shard
@Pokedots: it's not a hard check
@Pokedots: but it's an ok one
 lolbro: so this is bakugan now?
 lolbro: we can send a mon out with a move
+Blast Chance: what...
 Silver YM: lol
+Rapture's Finest: ~
 lolbro: in the bakugan anime
#Disjunction: Klinklang in the last slot
 lolbro: when i was like 9
 lolbro: they'd do that
#Disjunction: and then Samu > Kabu
+Rapture's Finest: good to know
 lolbro: they'd throw a thingy out
#Disjunction: imo
+HJAD: that could work
 lolbro: and call an attack
+HJAD: maybe sd grass knot
#Disjunction: it'd punish swellow
#Disjunction: hjad
#Disjunction: that set
#Disjunction: is shit
 lolbro: stfu
+Rapture's Finest: lol
+Blast Chance: lol
+HJAD: lures quag ;-;
@Pokedots: we could run rindo samu
#Disjunction: it's also
#Disjunction: shit
 lolbro: it lures quag
#Disjunction: Megahorn shits on Malamar
+HJAD: lures poliwrath ;-;
+Blast Chance: yeah i was thinking
+Blast Chance: rindo
+Blast Chance: if we run otter
#Disjunction: it does like 20 to wrath
#Disjunction: lol
+Rapture's Finest: rip
#Disjunction: ^@Blast
#Disjunction: Rindo sounds solid
@Pokedots: we're still fighting weak
+HJAD: 0 SpA Life Orb Samurott Grass Knot (80 BP) vs. 200 HP / 0 SpD Poliwrath: 177-208 (47.7 - 56%) -- 22.7% chance to 2HKO
@Pokedots: ~workshop team
+HJAD: but yeah we are
+HJAD: fighting weak
 Silver YM: Klinklang is ot what we need
 lolbro: 4 SpA Life Orb Samurott Grass Knot (80 BP) vs. 96 HP / 0 SpD Poliwrath: 177-208 (51.3 - 60.2%) -- 88.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 Silver YM: we are not fighting weak
 lolbro: like that
 lolbro: 20%
 lolbro: dis?
 Silver YM: We are sawk weak
 lolbro: obviously
 lolbro: with 4 mons
 lolbro: that beat it
 lolbro: 1v1
@Pokedots: gurdurr moreso
@Pokedots: looks annoying
#Disjunction: Viv like
+HJAD: hurricane viv checks
#Disjunction: counters gurdurr lol
 lolbro: does it live hurri
#Disjunction: well not counters but
#Disjunction: viv shits on it
 lolbro: and no
 lolbro: viv dies to knock+mach
+Blast Chance: no it doesn't
 lolbro: im p sure
#Disjunction: it doesn't.
 Silver YM: nope lolbro
+HJAD: 252+ Atk Gurdurr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Vivillon: 174-205 (57.8 - 68.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
#Disjunction: it Tauros necessary
#Disjunction: kinda feels like no
+HJAD: yeah its a safe one time check
 lolbro: with a low roll
 lolbro: we switch in
 lolbro: twice
 Silver YM: I gues
 Silver YM: Xaatu?
 Silver YM: Xatu?
+HJAD: xatu could actually
 ready2go202: so this
+HJAD: really help us out
 ready2go202: is how you build an nu team
 ready2go202: /me watches :o
+HJAD: offensive is a cool set
 Silver YM: xatu defog plus best fighting check
 Silver YM: Heat wave
 lolbro: defog xatu
+HJAD: yeah
 lolbro: is illegal
+HJAD: we arent running defog xatu
 lolbro: with bounce
 Based Loser: Xatu with Heat Wave and Giga Drain .
 lolbro: and is bad
+HJAD: signal and grass knot*
 Silver YM: owh realy
 lolbro: why GK
 Based Loser: GD better
 lolbro: giga is more consitent
 lolbro: and recovers
#Disjunction: offensive over what
@Pokedots: ~workshop team
+HJAD: 252 SpA Life Orb Xatu Grass Knot (100 BP) vs. 252 HP / 240 SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 390-463 (94.2 - 111.8%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
#Disjunction: we're not using a Viv team
#Disjunction: with only Xatu as hazard control...
@Pokedots: ~workshop remove SD Kabutops
#Disjunction: especially Offensive Xatu
@Pokedots: ~worshop add Rindo Samurott
 lolbro: rindorott?
 lolbro: when was that
 lolbro: added
 Silver YM: rindo is kinda good
 Based Loser: Giga Drain over Grass Knot
@Pokedots: ~workshop add Rindo Samurott
#Disjunction: ok dots
@Pokedots: ~workshop add Klinklang
#Disjunction: what do you think
#Disjunction: we should take the team
@Pokedots: ~workshop team
#Disjunction: I think the team is honestly pretty solid
@Pokedots: we need to replace something for some form of fighting switch in
@Pokedots: but other than that
@Pokedots: looks solid
#Disjunction: and that a lot of people are just overpreparing for stuff
#Disjunction: like Sawk can't afford to lock itself into CC
#Disjunction: because that gives Viv a free turn of set up
#Disjunction: without needing to sleep
#Disjunction: I wouldn't mind a soft check maybe
@Pokedots: yeah I just want a soft check
#Disjunction: but I don't think we should be focusing so much on defensive synergy
@Pokedots: not a great switch in or anything
#Disjunction: if I'm in favor of replacing anything it's Tauros
#Disjunction: everything else feels invaluable
@Pokedots: hmm one sec
 Silver YM: So
 Based Loser: Leech Seed Terra ?
 lolbro: no
 Based Loser: Oh aigh
+Blast Chance: sr / wood hammer / eq / synth
 Silver YM: my set :) Blast Chance
 lolbro: if we take tauros
 lolbro: this turns into bulky offense
 lolbro: kinda
+Blast Chance: well it's the standard
 Silver YM: yea but it said it first :)
#Disjunction: we could run Scyther
#Disjunction: but idk that seems pretty sketch
+Blast Chance: stacked with viv?
+HJAD: bug flying spam
+HJAD: doesnt sound good
 lolbro: ^
@Pokedots: I think we rely too much on hazard removal
@Pokedots: if scyther
 Silver YM: like xatu
#Disjunction: Swellow could be cool
#Disjunction: maintains speed control
 lolbro: flying spam
#Disjunction: breaks sturdy with U-turn
@Pokedots: swellow seems really fun
+Blast Chance: ~workshop team
@Pokedots: everyone agree on swellow>tauros?
 Silver YM: i do
 lolbro: what about
@Pokedots: specs swellow probably
 lolbro: scarf fantom
#Disjunction: Swellow also fixes our Lilli weakness
+GyRro: yeah specs
@Pokedots: I don't want our fast mon to be scarfed
#Disjunction: if we run Sleep Talk
@Pokedots: tbh
 lolbro: but you want it
 Silver YM: did we have a lili weakness
 lolbro: to be specsed
@Pokedots: with rindo samu
@Pokedots: not really
@Pokedots: imo
 lolbro: we did tho
 lolbro: samu just gets sleeped
 lolbro: and setup on
@Pokedots: what lilli
 Silver YM: lolbro we can predict it
@Pokedots: sleeps a samu
+Blast Chance: !ds nu, pu, nfe, spe > 110
@Pokedots: :I
 Silver YM: if we had xatu -_-
#Disjunction: xatu wouldn't help
#Disjunction: it's slow
 lolbro: stop saying xatu
#Disjunction: and doesn't wall break
 lolbro: it can stallbreak
+Blast Chance: !ds nu, pu, nfe, spe > 109
 lolbro: but not wall break
 Silver YM: Disjunction IT CAN
 Silver YM: if u specs
#Disjunction: don't use caps at me
@Pokedots: jumpluff is cool
#Disjunction: and specs is bad
@Pokedots: but idk if it fits well
 Silver YM: yea its pretty bad
@Pokedots: I like swellow more
 lolbro: why not
 lolbro: zebra
#Disjunction: I don't see what's wrong with swellow
#Disjunction: it fits perfectly
 lolbro: ik
 lolbro: just trying to suggest]
 lolbro: ;~;
@Pokedots: the main thing w/ jumpluff is it actually switches into fighters
@Pokedots: but y I like swellow
 lolbro: and takes
#Disjunction: it doesn't switch in
 lolbro: 60
@Pokedots: more than tauros 100%
#Disjunction: but it can take a cc
@Pokedots: it swiches into yama/gurdurr
#Disjunction: ok I'm fine with Swellow
#Disjunction: I think it has good synergy with
 lolbro: is it mixed
#Disjunction: Samu and Tort
 lolbro: swellow
@Pokedots: brb
@Pokedots: specs lolbro imo
 lolbro: but then hari switches in
 lolbro: like 3 times
+Blast Chance: ~workshop team
@Pokedots: that's fair
@Pokedots: lolbro
+Blast Chance: how well does terra take cc?
@Pokedots: but mixed gets worn down
@Pokedots: so fast
 lolbro: ill calc
@Pokedots: I think it isn't 2HKOed
 lolbro: not w/ roost
#Disjunction: is Hariyama really worth changing our spread to something less optimal .-.
+HJAD: 252+ Atk Choice Band Sawk Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Torterra: 267-315 (67.7 - 79.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
@Pokedots: 252+ Atk Hariyama Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Torterra: 172-204 (43.6 - 51.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
 lolbro: 252+ Atk Choice Band Mold Breaker Sawk Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Torterra: 267-315 (67.7 - 79.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers
 lolbro: goddamnit
 lolbro: i said i calced
#Disjunction: we could run impish tort
+HJAD: disj, does 128 adamant kill anything particularly?
 lolbro: *would calc
#Disjunction: if it's that big an issue
#Disjunction: HJAD 128 Defense is to dodge a 2hko from Kanga and Tauros
#Disjunction: iirc
#Disjunction: the rest just goes in attack
+HJAD: then i guess investing more into defense
+HJAD: isnt a huge issue
 lolbro: 252+ Atk Choice Band Mold Breaker Sawk Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 128+ Def Torterra: 243-286 (61.6 - 72.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+HJAD: if we are dodging yama 2hko
#Disjunction: yea sure let's go Impish
#Disjunction: ~workshop team
#Disjunction: ~workshop remove Tauros
#Disjunction: ~workshop add Specs Swellow
#Disjunction: ok this looks like a really solid team
+HJAD: can we run hp grass swellow
+HJAD: sounds like a fun lure
 lolbro: ^
#Disjunction: just
#Disjunction: U-turn
 lolbro: n
#Disjunction: lol
 lolbro: id rather 2hit
+Blast Chance: we already have eball viv
 lolbro: don
#Disjunction: we have
+Blast Chance: i think were fine
#Disjunction: Eball Viv, Tort, and Samu
#Disjunction: we don't need another slot for Rhydon
+GyRro: we need momentum imo
+Blast Chance: oh and skunk
+Blast Chance: w/ hp grass
+GyRro: so u turn
 lolbro: orite
+Blast Chance: ya were definitely fine
#Disjunction: especially when our only Lilli check
 lolbro: so many grass covers
#Disjunction: is Rindo Samu :o
 lolbro: klink
 lolbro: tort
 lolbro: swell
 lolbro: viv
+HJAD: we could run
 lolbro: 4 checks
#Disjunction: Klink gets Sleep'd and 2hko'd
+HJAD: burst / uturn / sleep talk
#Disjunction: Viv needs sash
+HJAD: / defog?
 lolbro: we ar erunning
+Blast Chance: heat wave
#Disjunction: Skunk doesn't beat 1v1
 lolbro: talk
+Blast Chance: > defog
 lolbro: and we have defog skunk
#Disjunction: lmao why would we run
#Disjunction: Defog on Specs..
#Disjunction: yes Heat Wave
+HJAD: hazard stack
+HJAD: /me shrugs
 lolbro: this team is quite worn down by spikes
#Disjunction: ok I think that's a solid conclusion