Gradiant log (partially redacted)

[8:19 PM] Gradiant: so you're pretty much town read by everyone it looks like
[8:22 PM] ShadoWolfe: Pretty much
[8:22 PM] ShadoWolfe: I've been meaning to talk to you
[8:22 PM] ShadoWolfe: you seem to have some good reads
[8:23 PM] ShadoWolfe: based on other people's impression of you
[8:23 PM] Gradiant: i'm kinda in a weird position right now
[8:23 PM] ShadoWolfe: I'm afraid that makes me a target for tonight, actually
[8:23 PM] ShadoWolfe: go for it
[8:23 PM] ShadoWolfe: what's up?
[8:24 PM] Gradiant: I don't want anybody else knowing this because I'm not sure about them while you're generally well town-read
[8:24 PM] Gradiant: I'm a third party i think
[8:24 PM] Gradiant: i win if red blaster gets lynched in the day
[8:25 PM] ShadoWolfe: wtf
[8:25 PM] Gradiant: yoshl informed me that if he dies normally
[8:25 PM] Gradiant: did you get the second part? it turned red
[8:25 PM] ShadoWolfe: second part?
[8:26 PM] Gradiant: if red blaster dies normally, I'm turn into vanilla town
[8:27 PM] Gradiant: I'm gonna continue to hunt wolves. Red blaster's probably not getting night killed ever, and we're probably not killing him because it meets his win condition as everyone was saying he was just gonna be dead weight
[8:27 PM] Gradiant: so I'm in a perpetual 'not winning'
[8:28 PM] Gradiant: because fuck yoshl
[8:28 PM] ShadoWolfe: lol
[8:28 PM] ShadoWolfe: Well, if you're being honest with me
[8:28 PM] ShadoWolfe: then that basically confirms he's jester
[8:28 PM] ShadoWolfe: His wincon could be to outlast you in game
[8:29 PM] Gradiant: red blaster mentioned other conditions or some shit in the thread and to xel
[8:29 PM] Gradiant: I have none of those
[8:29 PM] ShadoWolfe: I was thinking he's wolf saying he's jester so as not to get lynched til endgame
[8:29 PM] ShadoWolfe: he's bullshitting
[8:29 PM] ShadoWolfe: eveyrone thinks he's bullshitting
[8:29 PM] Gradiant: only thing I've got is that if red dies, i win no matter what other team wins as well
[8:29 PM] ShadoWolfe: He only mentioned night conditions because he doesn't want to get nightkilled
[8:29 PM] Gradiant: if he dies normally, i turn into vanilla town
[8:30 PM] ShadoWolfe: really? why do you think that?
[8:30 PM] Gradiant: because yoshl said so
[8:31 PM] Gradiant: and then at that point, i only win if town wins. not sure about if town wins while red blaster is still alive
[8:35 PM] ShadoWolfe: so you basically need to become town til endgame to win
[8:35 PM] ShadoWolfe: It's weird though
[8:35 PM] ShadoWolfe: because..
[8:36 PM] ShadoWolfe: Oh I see.. interesting
[8:36 PM] ShadoWolfe: so competing third parties
[8:37 PM] ShadoWolfe: If Red gets nightkilled, you win
[8:37 PM] ShadoWolfe: if Red gets lynched, you turn into vanilla townie and might lose or win, depending on wolves
[8:37 PM] ShadoWolfe: but if Red gets lynched, then he wins
[8:38 PM] ShadoWolfe: so out of the third parties, he'd be the winner.
[8:38 PM] ShadoWolfe: I'm just glad we got rid of busdriver DRG
[8:38 PM] ShadoWolfe: that would've been confusing as hell
[8:46 PM] Gradiant: yeah
[8:46 PM] Gradiant: i'm not able to hinder town in anyway while she was able to
[8:48 PM] ShadoWolfe: Hm. who's your shipgirl?
[8:49 PM] Gradiant: not sure i want to disclose that, not sure how name affects mechanics
[8:49 PM] ShadoWolfe: that's fine
[8:49 PM] ShadoWolfe: Actually I like that answer better than if you had disclosed right away
[8:49 PM] ShadoWolfe: you seemed like the cautious type, so that plays into how I'd see you responding
[8:50 PM] ShadoWolfe: The mechanics of this game are what's fucking me right now tbh
[8:51 PM] Gradiant: the thing about shipgirls staying alive over players depending on when death occurs is weird
[8:51 PM] ShadoWolfe: if I knew how many teams there were, this'd be easier. If I knew how many third parties and wovles there were, I'd be close to solving this
[8:51 PM] ShadoWolfe: then again DRG got lynched
[8:51 PM] ShadoWolfe: and her shipgirl was exposed
[8:56 PM] ShadoWolfe: Taihou. Also, if we are to believe DBP, his is Yuubari
[8:56 PM] ShadoWolfe: Question for you though
[8:56 PM] ShadoWolfe: Why did you tell me your role?
[8:58 PM] Gradiant: you specifically or just in general?
[8:58 PM] ShadoWolfe: In general
[8:59 PM] Gradiant: i can continue to play how i have been looking for wolves
[8:59 PM] Gradiant: but red blaster is never getting lynched
[8:59 PM] ShadoWolfe: Maybe so, but why share in the first place?
[9:00 PM] ShadoWolfe: Third party is naturally more suspicious to people than VT, why go out of your way to identify your role to me
[9:02 PM] Gradiant: i only win if red blaster is lynched, not anything else and i don't hinder town
[9:02 PM] Gradiant: i don't have any special roles like drg
[9:02 PM] Gradiant: i'm pretty much stuck not winning since red blaster isn't getting lynched and most likely won't get night killed
[9:03 PM] Gradiant: if he does, i'm vanilla town and can continue anyway
[9:05 PM] Gradiant: sorry about response times, playing puyo vs with a couple friends
[9:05 PM] ShadoWolfe: No worries, take your time with the responeses
[9:17 PM] ShadoWolfe: No other thoughts? I know you're playing PPV2 so I won't bug you, but please talk to me if anything occurs to you
[10:06 PM] Gradiant: only thoughts so far are what I said already in the thread and in the voice chat
[10:07 PM] Gradiant: I still think AA was acting too defensively regarding drg's posts, and since drg was supposedly third party rather than scum, it's still an issue for me
[10:08 PM] Gradiant: arnt and tokzic it now depends on what they post when they're actually active
[10:17 PM] ShadoWolfe: I just really don't understand why you'd tell me, because there was a good chance your wincon would be fulfilled if you hadn't told me
[10:18 PM] ShadoWolfe: Everyone's already been asking Vigi to nightkill Red,
[10:18 PM] Gradiant: do we have a vigi
[10:18 PM] Gradiant: we don't know
[10:19 PM] ShadoWolfe: as a towny, I should now be telling everyone not to let red get killed day or night, because that way your wincon still gets fulfilled if you're alive at the end and town wins, right?
[10:19 PM] Gradiant: if red happens to get vigi'd, you don't need worry about it anyway
[10:19 PM] Gradiant: tbh, idk
[10:19 PM] Gradiant: yoshl never told me what happens if town wins and red blaster is alive
[10:19 PM] ShadoWolfe: but I'm still deliberating. I don't like making emotional decisions here or letting people sway me into making hasty judgments
[10:20 PM] ShadoWolfe: In your defense
[10:20 PM] Gradiant: i have no idea if we have vigi and i didn't see red ever dying otherwise
[10:20 PM] ShadoWolfe: I don't think a wolf Gradi would tell me, someone I've already town-leaned, that he's a third party
[10:20 PM] ShadoWolfe: just seems rash
[10:21 PM] Gradiant: somebody related to goingons with roles can then have a part of a decision to use role to catch somebody that is more harmful to town
[10:21 PM] Gradiant: and i came to you because you're most town read
[10:22 PM] ShadoWolfe: I appreciate it. Surprisingly, I think you're being honest
[10:22 PM] ShadoWolfe: It seems like something YoshL would do with third-parties
[10:22 PM] ShadoWolfe: have thing compete against each other without negatively impacting town too much
[10:22 PM] ShadoWolfe: them*
[10:23 PM] Gradiant: if red gets lynched, i win and can still help town win. if he gets nightkilled, i'm town and can still help town win. sure coming out might not be best idea but it's done. I've never been in a third party game, let alone a mystery one so maybe i screwed up
[10:24 PM] ShadoWolfe: Wait, that's the reverse of what you told me earlier
[10:24 PM] Gradiant: how so?
[10:24 PM] ShadoWolfe: If red gets lynched, you revert to town
[10:24 PM] ShadoWolfe: if he gets nightkilled, you win
[10:24 PM] Gradiant: no
[10:25 PM] Gradiant: Gradiant - Today at 8:24 PM
I don't want anybody else knowing this because I'm not sure about them while you're generally well town-read
I'm a third party i think
i win if red blaster gets lynched in the day
[10:25 PM] ShadoWolfe: "8:27 PM] Gradiant: I'm gonna continue to hunt wolves. Red blaster's probably not getting night killed ever, and we're probably not killing him because it meets his win condition as everyone was saying he was just gonna be dead weight"
[10:26 PM] Gradiant: 'if red blaster dies normally, I'm turn into vanilla town'
[10:26 PM] Gradiant: normally as in nightkilled
[10:26 PM] Gradiant: i guess vigi would also count since it's technically not lynch
[10:26 PM] ShadoWolfe: ah, I think of lynches as normal kills. My bad.
[10:26 PM] Gradiant: bad wording on my part
[10:26 PM] ShadoWolfe: Oh, shit. .
[10:27 PM] ShadoWolfe: So what's Red's win condition, then? Can't be to get lynched...
[10:27 PM] Gradiant: i have absolutely no idea what happens when he dies
[10:27 PM] Gradiant: i wasn't given a specific name for my role, so i'm not sure where red blaster got 'jester' from
[10:28 PM] Gradiant: if he searched for a term similar to what was told his stuff was, or if he's making it up based on other mystery games
[10:28 PM] Gradiant: if he's telling truth, idk what the other conditions he is talking about are
[10:28 PM] Gradiant: if there even are any
[10:29 PM] ShadoWolfe: DRG had a name
[10:29 PM] Gradiant: related to the game
[10:30 PM] Gradiant: i don't play the game so idk if there's a role name specific to game that could be related to jester through red blaster's research of other games or if jester is in the name
[10:31 PM] ShadoWolfe: I don't think he's the jester if your wincon is get him lynched
[10:31 PM] Gradiant: and then on top of that, I don't know if i'm the only one with a role like this
[10:31 PM] Gradiant: you think he's lying then?
[10:33 PM] ShadoWolfe: I thought he was lying because he was a wolf and saying he was a jester would ensure nobody would lynch him
[10:33 PM] ShadoWolfe: Then you told me this and it lent him a bit more credibility to being third-party
[10:33 PM] ShadoWolfe: but as for his wincon, i'm totally lost
[10:34 PM] ShadoWolfe: Who was it that "predicted" jester for RB?
[10:34 PM] Gradiant: shit let me remember
[10:34 PM] Gradiant: a couple people were bringing up it looking like he was trying to get killed
[10:35 PM] Gradiant: but jester only came up because a past game i wasn't involved with
[10:35 PM] Gradiant: roundbox wasn't in channel so i think it was dabackpack
[10:35 PM] Gradiant: or maybe AA, think he likes to go through and read past games so he might've known about it
[10:36 PM] ShadoWolfe: I thought it was runescape or charu
[10:36 PM] ShadoWolfe: I think it was runescape tbh not sure
[10:37 PM] Gradiant: i honestly can't remember
[10:37 PM] Gradiant: i didn't have the window up when it came up so i couldn't see green circle by name
[10:38 PM] ShadoWolfe: Neither did I but I remember the laugh and the way he got excited after red blaster actually said he was a jester
[10:38 PM] ShadoWolfe: he was celebrating his prediction being right
[10:38 PM] ShadoWolfe: sounded like runescape
[10:38 PM] Gradiant: don't think it was charu
[10:38 PM] Gradiant: it'd have to be runescape/backpack
[10:38 PM] ShadoWolfe: Pretty sure it was runescape, but I guess we'll see
[10:39 PM] Gradiant: think if it was AA, something else would've been said because he's the one that came out with that information anyway
[10:42 PM] ShadoWolfe: Yeah  I guess we'll find out one way or another
[1:03 PM] Gradiant: probably tunneling on my own weariness of him but

worked out
idk why I didn't bindclear luci lol
forgot I needed him f3
[7:15 PM] ShadoWolfe: this is fucking intense man
[7:15 PM] ShadoWolfe: I'm new to FFR twists on mechanics so this is an awesome first
[6:32 PM] ShadoWolfe: So tell me again how you win if RB gets lynched? Because it seems he's trying pretty hard to fulfill your wincon
[6:32 PM] ShadoWolfe: it doesn't make sense
[6:33 PM] ShadoWolfe: because Third-party wincons conflict, they don't align..
[6:34 PM] Gradiant: that's part of why i think he's lying
[6:34 PM] Gradiant: there's absolutely no way yoshl would make red blaster dying let both me and him win
[6:34 PM] ShadoWolfe: Yeah I thought so too
[6:34 PM] ShadoWolfe: but he's trying pretty damn hard
[6:35 PM] Gradiant: yeah, i'm thinking it has to be a sort of take down thing
[6:35 PM] Gradiant: so it puts him in good situation if people believe him and he gets lynched
[6:35 PM] Gradiant: and it allows a cover for him to never get nightkilled since 'bad stuff will happen'
[6:36 PM] Gradiant: did anybody message you about specifics of what happens if he gets nightkilled?
[6:36 PM] ShadoWolfe: I can't answer that atm. You're saying he's scum, then? Takedown is usually scum
[6:37 PM] Gradiant: I got info from charu before day phase started, was just checking
[6:37 PM] Gradiant: about red, idk
[6:38 PM] Gradiant: that's the only other thing i can think of
[6:38 PM] Gradiant: i don't see town having any role similar to that
[6:39 PM] Gradiant: either yoshl made unbalanced third party wincons or red is lying
[6:39 PM] ShadoWolfe: lol he's claiming third-party. I've never heard of a third-party takedown role, so scum?
[6:39 PM] Gradiant: i'm thinking yeah
[6:39 PM] ShadoWolfe: Yeah I'm like placing the "Gradi and RB both win if RB gets lynched" thing on the shelf next to Half Life 3
[6:40 PM] ShadoWolfe: No reasonable host would ever do that
[6:40 PM] ShadoWolfe: It's pointless.. and kind of boring tbh
[6:41 PM] Gradiant: pretty much yeah
[6:42 PM] Gradiant: I want to vote him so bad but I know nobody else will go for it due to worrying about either him winning or some other condition
[6:42 PM] Gradiant: hopefully you got some good info from rune
[6:42 PM] ShadoWolfe: lol
[6:42 PM] Gradiant: gonna go get some food real quick
[6:42 PM] ShadoWolfe: do you have any other abilities?
[6:42 PM] ShadoWolfe: anything at all?
[6:42 PM] Gradiant: no that's that
[6:42 PM] ShadoWolfe: conditions, anything?
[6:42 PM] Gradiant: only thing i have is that
[6:43 PM] ShadoWolfe: Cool. XelNya distanced himself from you pretty harshly. Any idea why?
[6:43 PM] Gradiant: I win if red blaster gets lynched. if his shipgirl sinks in the night i will have failed
[6:43 PM] Gradiant: I was then informed that i would then turn into vanilla town
[6:43 PM] Gradiant: so i can still win but only if town wins
[6:44 PM] Gradiant: about xel...
[6:44 PM] Gradiant: i have no idea
[6:44 PM] Gradiant: as i posted in thread, only convo was intitiated by me
[6:44 PM] Gradiant: and it was him lying
[6:44 PM] ShadoWolfe: Cool, thanks
[6:44 PM] ShadoWolfe: Town is actually in a pretty good position now
[6:44 PM] Gradiant: think he told somebody else that he didn't message me because we don't talk much?
[6:44 PM] ShadoWolfe: only thing hindering us is third-party special conditions and unknown mechanics
[6:44 PM] Gradiant: but that's stupid because he hates redblaster
[6:45 PM] Gradiant: i can honestly tell you i have no other special conditions like red or drg
[6:45 PM] Gradiant: i can only win no matter what if red gets lynched, or win along with town if red happens to get nightkilled
[6:45 PM] ShadoWolfe: cool.
[6:45 PM] ShadoWolfe: one more thing before you go eat
[6:45 PM] ShadoWolfe: what special conditions did DRG have?
[6:46 PM] Gradiant: all i know was what she was saying about giving people luck
[6:46 PM] Gradiant: i don't have the ability to give any player anything
[6:46 PM] Gradiant: it's just a win condition
[6:46 PM] ShadoWolfe: Ah
[6:46 PM] ShadoWolfe: Thanks!
[6:46 PM] ShadoWolfe: I appreciate your input and patience
[6:47 PM] Gradiant: about win conditions, i have no idea. she was talking all over the place and stuttering and it was hard to understand her
[6:47 PM] Gradiant: and then she got interrupted
[6:47 PM] Gradiant: with chores and stuff
[6:47 PM] ShadoWolfe: yeah
[6:47 PM] Gradiant: she might've had one, but we don't know
[6:47 PM] ShadoWolfe: mhm
[6:47 PM] Gradiant: alright brb
[6:47 PM] ShadoWolfe: True enough. Alright, later
[7:09 PM] Gradiant: alright
[7:09 PM] Gradiant: one more thing he told me, not sure if even changes anything, 'red blaster doesn't know he's the lynchee'
[7:10 PM] Gradiant: i don't know why he would know anyway, so that point doesn't really matter
[7:11 PM] ShadoWolfe: Who?
[7:14 PM] Gradiant: yoshl
[7:14 PM] Gradiant: he told me that red doesn't know he's the lynchee
[7:14 PM] ShadoWolfe: What do you think that could mean?
[7:15 PM] ShadoWolfe: seems so vague
[7:15 PM] Gradiant: i know
[7:15 PM] Gradiant: might be getting at him knowing that somebody has a role like mine, but not know who has it or who the target is
[7:16 PM] Gradiant: or
[7:16 PM] Gradiant: I was in an anon game
[7:16 PM] Gradiant: theme was united nations, not sure if you read that one prob not
[7:16 PM] Gradiant: i was in a wolf team with sunfan, but his role was usurper nation
[7:17 PM] Gradiant: he won if both wolf team won and i died
[7:17 PM] Gradiant: so he had to both help elminate town, and try and get them to kill me first
[7:18 PM] Gradiant: I knew based on roles listed in op that somebody had to try and kill me, but not who it was
[7:18 PM] Gradiant: so this could just be covering that he doesn't know him dying lets me win
[7:19 PM] ShadoWolfe: Ah
[7:19 PM] ShadoWolfe: that's interesting..
[7:19 PM] ShadoWolfe: I'll check it out
[7:19 PM] ShadoWolfe: RB could just be a wolf lying about jester to try to prevent people from lynching h im
[7:20 PM] Gradiant: thats what i think, but doesn't explain actively trying to get lynched
[7:20 PM] Gradiant: though he did ask the two people that would least believe him
[7:20 PM] Gradiant: knowing that they'd not want to follow it
[7:21 PM] Gradiant: 'knowing that they'd not want to follow it'       possibly
[7:21 PM] Gradiant: if that info got out, people wouldn't want to lynch him, and then 'bad stuff will happen' is excuse to not get nightkilled
[7:21 PM] Gradiant: or vigi'd
[7:22 PM] Gradiant: plan would be dependent on telling people that would not want to do so and make his shit publicly known
[7:23 PM] ShadoWolfe: Yeah I suppose
[7:23 PM] ShadoWolfe: but people were saying that RB isn't clever enough to do that -lmao-
[7:23 PM] Gradiant: yeah exactly
[7:24 PM] Gradiant: i can't think of any reason a wolf would want to pubicly do that unless he is a takedown
[7:24 PM] Gradiant: and then point about nightkill excuse still stands
[7:25 PM] ShadoWolfe: hmm
[7:26 PM] ShadoWolfe: I officially hate RB
[7:26 PM] ShadoWolfe: fucking antagonistic fuck
[7:26 PM] ShadoWolfe: I mean, his character/meta, at least
[7:26 PM] ShadoWolfe: he seems decent enough out of this game
[7:26 PM] Gradiant: yeah
[7:27 PM] Gradiant: lot of people publicly dislike him in twg games
[7:27 PM] Gradiant: him and a guy by name of Zenith
[7:27 PM] ShadoWolfe: fuck zenith
[7:27 PM] ShadoWolfe: Jk lol
[7:27 PM] ShadoWolfe: I haven't played with zenith so I can't judge
[7:28 PM] ShadoWolfe: but maaan this dude is hindering the game
[7:29 PM] Gradiant: if he's a wolf it's pretty smart actually
[7:29 PM] Gradiant: he knows people hate him
[7:29 PM] Gradiant: why not make use of it
[7:32 PM] ShadoWolfe: lol yeah
[7:32 PM] ShadoWolfe: I don't think he's that subtle though
[7:32 PM] ShadoWolfe: based on what he's trying to do
[7:43 PM] Gradiant: on the chance that he's a wolf trying to get lynched because take down stuff
[7:44 PM] Gradiant: I'm pretty sure my win con is met immediately when he's lynched
[7:44 PM] Gradiant: so if we were to lynch him, and I was last vote
[7:44 PM] Gradiant: I would die after him due to how roles resolve
[7:44 PM] ShadoWolfe: yeah
[7:44 PM] Gradiant: so i'd win anyway
[7:45 PM] ShadoWolfe: yeah. which is why it isn't helpful to lynch him tonight
[7:45 PM] ShadoWolfe: because if you're town-aligned, then we don't want to lose you
[7:45 PM] Gradiant: for sure
[7:45 PM] Gradiant: just when the time comes, last vote should come from me
[7:46 PM] Gradiant: since i'm technically not town unless he gets nightkilled or vigi'd, it wouldn't affect parity
[7:46 PM] Gradiant: and i have no special roles that could benefit town, I'm just pro-town
[7:48 PM] ShadoWolfe: why?
[7:49 PM] ShadoWolfe: why should the last vote come from you?
[7:54 PM] Gradiant: since i'm technically not town unless he gets nightkilled or vigi'd, it wouldn't affect parity
and i have no special roles that could benefit town, I'm just pro-town
[7:55 PM] Gradiant: take down takes down last vote on him right?
[7:57 PM] ShadoWolfe: ah. I see. I don't think his takedown operates like that
[7:57 PM] Gradiant: oh?
[7:57 PM] ShadoWolfe: otherwise he wouldn't be trying to get lynched
[7:57 PM] ShadoWolfe: one for one doesn't work if town outnumbers him
[7:57 PM] Gradiant: fuck, that's true
[7:57 PM] Gradiant: it'd have to be multiple people
[7:58 PM] Gradiant: maybe a sort of vigi
[7:58 PM] Gradiant: so they could pick and choose rather than just last one to vote dies
[7:59 PM] ShadoWolfe: That's an interesting theory
[7:59 PM] ShadoWolfe: multiple people AND picking and choosing? that'd be pretty bad
[7:59 PM] Gradiant: or
[8:00 PM] Gradiant: *or
[8:00 PM] Gradiant: it'd give yoshl a way to really fuck with my role
[8:00 PM] Gradiant: try and get me to have him killed but his death would potentially get pr's killed
[8:14 PM] ShadoWolfe: Yeah lol
[8:14 PM] ShadoWolfe: seems more likely than the opposite
[6:48 PM] Gradiant: You think red is lying though
[6:49 PM] ShadoWolfe: If I'm to believe you, yes
[6:50 PM] Gradiant: just pointing it out that it's the same situation as arnt but instead of survivor, it's jester
[6:50 PM] Gradiant: though arnt isn't saying he's survivor to different people, he claimed he was and then in another log jsut mentioned it
[6:50 PM] ShadoWolfe: applying that logic, I should also then believe that you're lying
[9:38 PM] ShadoWolfe: Hey what do you think of Arnts claim now, after the fact?
[9:45 PM] Gradiant: i'm not sure
[9:45 PM] Gradiant: he didnt' have any extra abilities right? it was just he had to not die
[9:45 PM] ShadoWolfe: So he claimed, yes
[9:46 PM] Gradiant: that'd doesn't explain inconsistencies in the logs which is why we had him as top scum in the first place
[9:46 PM] ShadoWolfe: Yeah
[9:46 PM] ShadoWolfe: I'm thinking he's not lying about survivor or similar role
[9:46 PM] ShadoWolfe: but he's lying about his night powers
[9:46 PM] ShadoWolfe: as in, he does have them and they're bad for town
[9:47 PM] Gradiant: I'm waiting to see if his playstyle changes at all now that 2 scum are down so quickly
[9:48 PM] Gradiant: either doing less than he is now
[9:48 PM] Gradiant: idk
[9:49 PM] Gradiant: his image post after tokzic flip annoyed me
[9:49 PM] Gradiant: he hasn't done shit and was top lynch for the day
[9:49 PM] ShadoWolfe: lols
[9:49 PM] Gradiant: claimed third party so we went all on tokzic and he makes some victory post
[9:50 PM] ShadoWolfe: you have a point there
[9:50 PM] ShadoWolfe: I guess we'll see how it plays out
[9:50 PM] ShadoWolfe: what did you think of Xiz?
[9:50 PM] ShadoWolfe: he seemed pretty paranoid
[9:50 PM] ShadoWolfe: You read into that at all?>
[9:54 PM] Gradiant: he didn't go anywhere with it though
[9:54 PM] Gradiant: he said he was gonna reevaluate and tell us again a different way and never did
[9:55 PM] Gradiant: he was pretty much able to skate by first day without doing a whole lot by pretending he had a restriction
[9:55 PM] Gradiant: so I'd like what drg wanted, to explain more of his views and thoughts on the game. All I have is that he's supposedly paranoid
[10:06 PM] ShadoWolfe: Haha yeah
[11:29 PM] ShadoWolfe: So who's your target tonight?
[11:31 PM] Gradiant: uh, what?
[11:31 PM] ShadoWolfe: you heard me
[11:32 PM] Gradiant: I have no special abilities, just a win condition
[11:32 PM] ShadoWolfe: ugh
[11:32 PM] ShadoWolfe: that sucks
[11:32 PM] Gradiant: I've told you this repeatedly
[11:32 PM] ShadoWolfe: I know
[11:32 PM] ShadoWolfe: I believe you, too, for the most part
[11:33 PM] ShadoWolfe: Doesn't hurt to bug you about it though
[11:33 PM] ShadoWolfe: lmao
[11:33 PM] Gradiant: ShadoWolfe - Today at 11:29 PM
So who's your target tonight?
Gradiant - Today at 11:31 PM
uh, what?
ShadoWolfe - Today at 11:31 PM
you heard me

strongly gives impression you were lying about what you said in channel about not being suspicious of me
[11:34 PM] Gradiant: whatever
[11:34 PM] Gradiant: as i've said before, I can't target anybody
[11:34 PM] Gradiant: all I can do is vote during day phases
[11:34 PM] ShadoWolfe: Chill, dude, I was just asking in a blunt and direct way to gauge a reaction
[11:35 PM] ShadoWolfe: I never said I wasn't suspicious of you. I'm suspicious of everyone, I just believe some people more than others
[11:36 PM] ShadoWolfe: you happen to be one of those people. that doesn't exclude you from reaction-checks once in awhile
[11:36 PM] Gradiant: my bad, misheard that from you saying you never told arntonach about being suspicious of me
[11:37 PM] ShadoWolfe: lol yeah I still don't like that about arnt
[11:37 PM] ShadoWolfe: It doesn't bode well for him
[11:37 PM] ShadoWolfe: Hold on, lemme see if i can find the reads section of our convo
[11:37 PM] ShadoWolfe: I might've mentioned you
[11:38 PM] Gradiant: if you have, the things going against arnt are his not being here majority of game and that shit with logs between me and roundbox
[11:39 PM] Gradiant: *between the two logs of me/arnt and round/arnt
[11:39 PM] ShadoWolfe: "
[6:26 PM] ShadoWolfe: Well. I suppose I can't just ask you to prove you're town somehow
[6:26 PM] ShadoWolfe: so how bout this
[6:26 PM] ShadoWolfe: What's your read on DBP, rsDude, Gradiant, and roundbox?
[6:27 PM] ATN: DBP's null, since he's been wavering on and off, since when he's town he's a lot more active.
[6:28 PM] ATN: can't say much for rsDude since I haven't seen much of him
[6:29 PM] ATN: Gradiant seems towny
[6:29 PM] ATN: and roundbox is more towny than Gradiant
[6:29 PM] ShadoWolfe: Fair enough
[6:29 PM] ShadoWolfe: Who's your top scum read atm?
[6:35 PM] ATN: RB and AA
[6:35 PM] ATN: Which but now that I'm messaging AA, I'm starting to see him as a townie, which is a problem
[6:37 PM] ShadoWolfe: RB, huh? You don't see him as third-party?"
[11:40 PM] ShadoWolfe: maybe he inferred here that I was suspicious of you
[11:40 PM] ShadoWolfe: But I never clump my reads together like that for people
[11:40 PM] ShadoWolfe: If I'm asking
[11:40 PM] ShadoWolfe: it'll be part town part wolf part TP or any mix of two
[11:41 PM] ShadoWolfe: that was the first and last time you were mentioned
[11:41 PM] Gradiant: not sure what you mean
[11:42 PM] Gradiant: by clump
[11:42 PM] ShadoWolfe: as in
[11:42 PM] ShadoWolfe: If I were to ask you
[11:42 PM] ShadoWolfe: What do you think of MML, YoshL, Roundbox, and Tokzic
[11:42 PM] ShadoWolfe: it doesn't mean I'm suspicious of all of them
[11:42 PM] Gradiant: ah
[11:43 PM] ShadoWolfe: so he might've assumed that I was suspicious because I asked
[11:43 PM] ShadoWolfe: but I just CTRL-F our conversation for "Gradi"
[11:43 PM] ShadoWolfe: and it only showed three results, all of them in the text I pasted
[11:44 PM] ShadoWolfe: so that does not look good for Arnt at all
[11:44 PM] ShadoWolfe: You can ask him, see if he posts a different log
[11:44 PM] ShadoWolfe: but that's literally all there is
[11:45 PM] ShadoWolfe: But again, I always try to be suspicious of everyone
[11:45 PM] Gradiant: as you should
[9:25 AM] Gradiant: ATN - Today at 2:48 AM
Shit, I was confused, it wasn't ShadoWolfe, it was tokzic
Sorry bout that, I've been OOT a lot since wensday
Everyone's bluring together
[4:34 PM] ShadoWolfe: hmm
[4:53 PM] Gradiant: asked for his log with tokzic then and I got this http://pastebin.com/7gqTCBeJ
Pastebin
ATN - Last Thursday at 9:45 AM we miss you ;-; ATN - Last Thur...
[4:54 PM] ShadoWolfe: excellent
[4:54 PM] ShadoWolfe: I was going to try to pressure him for it
[4:54 PM] ShadoWolfe: thank you
[4:55 PM] Gradiant: you probably could as well
[4:55 PM] Gradiant: to see if it's the same length as what he sent me
[4:55 PM] ShadoWolfe: maybe, but that doesn't explain anything
[4:56 PM] ShadoWolfe: tokzic didn't even mention you
[4:56 PM] Gradiant: yeah i know
[4:56 PM] Gradiant: he only asked about implications for him and AA
[5:11 PM] Gradiant: ATN - Today at 5:06 PM
wait that wasn't correct
NEW MESSAGES
ATN - Today at 5:11 PM
toczik wasn't the one, it was Lar, but even then that was because of what Xel said in the logs that were posted after his death.
It also implicated me and AA too
[5:23 PM] ShadoWolfe: yeah I pressured him a bit and he gave me the same thing
[5:24 PM] ShadoWolfe: so I called him out on it
[5:24 PM] ShadoWolfe: and he said "oh shit hold on"
[5:24 PM] ShadoWolfe: and went digging
[5:24 PM] ShadoWolfe: I guess it was lar