Samurai Jack reassessment after 16 years.

DemonRapArtist
Have any of you been watching Samurai Jack? Jack finally got hist sword!
*his
9:05

RenzXVI
I don't like it.
9:06

DemonRapArtist
Why not?
9:06

RenzXVI
Boring.
Seems too serious, not much stuff happening, soundtrack is also too monotonous.
9:07

The Beautiful Princess Ashley
i don't think i've ever watched that
9:08

DemonRapArtist
How so? Every episode takes place in an entirely different location and Jack always encounters something new. That's one of the things that makes the show great!
9:10

RenzXVI
I don't think that has anything to do with what I said.
9:11

DemonRapArtist
Maybe. But still, it's far from boring.
In my opinion at least.
9:12

RenzXVI
Link me an episode on youtube.
I'll re-assess it for you.
9:15

DemonRapArtist
I can't find any upload of an episode that isn't low-quality and sped up so here's a clip of Jack fighting the Three Blind Archers. https://youtu.be/0X52Kdc7TAQ (YT: Samurai Jack S1Ep7-Jack vs The Three Blind Archers)
9:15

RenzXVI
a fight scene will be biased.
9:17

DemonRapArtist
I know. You try finding a high quality rip of an episode.
9:18

RenzXVI
Found one, I will watch it now.
9:19

DemonRapArtist
What episode is it?
I suggest you watch The Princess and the Bounty Hunters. It's one of the best episodes in the show.
9:21

RenzXVI
s5e7
My internet is being slow
9:23

DemonRapArtist
Don't you think you should start from the beginning of the season?
9:23

The Beautiful Princess Ashley
if the 3 blind archers are really blind, fighting them should be easy
9:23

RenzXVI
Why should I care which episode I choose?  :p
9:25

DemonRapArtist
@Renz Since the episodes of season 5 build up from one another, it wouldn't make sense to skip to the seventh episode.
@Ashley Where the lack sight, they make up for it with damn good hearing.
*they
9:26

The Beautiful Princess Ashley
hearing may make up for lack of sight in everyday lifs, but it cannot compensate enough to actually make them useful at archery
9:26

RenzXVI
Then what difference does it make? I won't get anything since I never watched the whole series.
And yeah, that hearing thing is already old news because of falmers.
9:28

The Beautiful Princess Ashley
the falmer shouldn't logically be able to wield bows either
9:29

RenzXVI
Yep, so far, it seems exactly how I remember it.
9:32

DemonRapArtist
Perhaps you should watch an episode from an older season? Jack and the Spartans is a very good one.
9:32

RenzXVI
Jack wanders around, aimlessly in a desolate area (same as the episodes I tried years ago) a short battle starts with fast paced action, so fast, it doesn't offer anything unique or interesting... The part cute lambs turned into monsters offered a nice but predictable twist when he realized he had killed innocent animals.
Turns out it's a flashback.
Who cares what season? I am assessing AN episode.
I already have tried looking at this series before.
9:33

DemonRapArtist
Alright.
Are you using a streaming site?
9:35

RenzXVI
Interesting, few minutes after that short fight, they are wandering aimlessly again in a desolate area...
There's a lot of those for all episodes that I have tried.

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9:36

DemonRapArtist
Yo.
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Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph
Jo
9:37

RenzXVI
"I realize now that I didn't lose the sword, the sword left me" I am trying not to judge, maybe there's a deeper meaning to that but that's actually lame.
More dramatic dialogue.
He decides to leave girl to be forever alone, more drama starts.
9:38

DemonRapArtist
He's about to mediate in order to communicate with the gods. This is where the action starts.
9:39

RenzXVI
Nice twist, I was expecting more aimless wandering but he is meditating....
Yep, probably a minute of meditating followed by 20 seconds of action.
LOl, I am already halfway through the episode, I didn't even realize.
9:40

DemonRapArtist
What's happening now?
9:41

RenzXVI
What I predicted, still meditating.
Now he is in a peaceful field of grass... Can it get even more relaxing? Maybe I need coffee.
9:42

DemonRapArtist
At some point, he's gonna enter this spiritual place where he has to make tea for a monk.
9:42

RenzXVI
Are you kidding me?
9:42

DemonRapArtist
Sorry for the spoiler.
9:42

RenzXVI
You have to be seriously trolling me right now.

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9:43

DemonRapArtist
I ain't.
It's actually nice.
9:43

RenzXVI
I thought you were trying to make me realize it's not as boring as I think it is but you are now making it seem like what I've said was true.
Or worse.
Remember what I said about the monotonous music? It's here now.
Desolate ambience.
Puts me in a melancholic mood of nothingness.
9:45

DemonRapArtist
I don't think the music's bad to be honest.
9:45

RenzXVI
When did I say it's bad?
9:45

DemonRapArtist
It gets dramatic when Jack meets the gods that made his sword.
9:45

RenzXVI
Copy paste of my first comment about it: "Seems too serious, not much stuff happening, soundtrack is also too monotonous."
It's still EXACTLY as I said it was.
9:46

DemonRapArtist
Oh well, it's still nice.
9:46

RenzXVI
Then why did you disagree?  XD
It gives me the same exact vibe the first few times I tried it from when I was a teen.
It's like a surreal walk into a gloomy alternate timeline.
9:47

DemonRapArtist
"If you can't beat'm, join'm"-Some asshole from long ago.
9:47

RenzXVI
The adult swim tag actually explains it.
9:48

DemonRapArtist
Kind of, yeah.
9:48

RenzXVI
most adult swim shows have similar pacing and vibe.

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DemonRapArtist
Even the comedy ones?
9:48

RenzXVI
Late night shows are meant to be partially entertaining but chill enough to relax on before sleeping.
Yeah.
For late night cartoons, I actually preferred the talky ones.
Like spaceghost and aquateen hunger force.
9:49

DemonRapArtist
I still remember Regular Show airing right before Adult Swim. Those were good times.

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9:50

RenzXVI
Ahh, the "intense" action is here.
The girl pushes a hundred enemies off the cliff in one move, then close ups of her fists are shown then another group of enemies are thrown off.
Very detailed action.
9:52

RenzXVI
She breaks a dozen spears at the same time, throws them all to kill a dozen enemies in one move.
9:52

DemonRapArtist
Ah, that's Ashi.
9:52

The Beautiful Princess Ashley
she must be quite strong then
9:53

RenzXVI
Now the scene changed to Jack... I bet when the scene is back to the girl, the action was so intense and cut off that all enemies are dead already... That's so very intense that they barely showed anything.
9:53

DemonRapArtist
She was born along with her six sisters and was trained to kill Jack.
9:53

RenzXVI
What did I predict earlier? A minute of meditation followed by 20 seconds of action? I am pretty accurate as far as I can see.
Except I am wrong... I didn't expect even more meditation after that.  XD It's tea time now.
9:54

DemonRapArtist
lol. Enjoy.
9:54

RenzXVI
I wouldn't be surprised if they took a nap after drinking tea. Or was in a sauna.
Or whatever else relaxing crap
I am still waiting for a single joke to happen... You said there were a lot earlier?
I haven't seen even one.
9:55

DemonRapArtist
Jokes?
Isn't the tea scene enough? lol
9:57

RenzXVI
Mother of ducks...
9:58

RenzXVI
The girl is shown again and look at how 1000% accurate my prediction was.
9:58

DemonRapArtist
Umhm.
9:58

RenzXVI
Every enemy is dead.
9:58

DemonRapArtist
Ashi's strong af.
9:59

RenzXVI
That's supposed to be entertaining?
9:59

DemonRapArtist
It depends on the audience.
9:59

RenzXVI
I've predicted like 95% of what's going to happen.
9:59

DemonRapArtist
What's happining now?
*happening
9:59

RenzXVI
She stopped an arrow
Nice cliche.
More arrows.
Ahh, family against family.
I was thinking there shouldn't be another cliche just after another.
10:01

DemonRapArtist
If only you watched from the beginning of the season...
10:02

RenzXVI
Anything I don't manage to predict is either cliche or very very very "relaxing".
What? I might end up sleeping for a week straight if I watched 1 season.

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10:03

RenzXVI
I picked 1 random episode and I am managing to predict majority of what happens... Imagine how lamer it would be if I actually knew the whole story of the seriess.
10:03

DemonRapArtist
If only...
10:03

The Beautiful Princess Ashley
lol
10:04

DemonRapArtist
What's happening now?
10:04

RenzXVI
They are still fighting
10:04

DemonRapArtist
I see.
10:04

RenzXVI
Well, tea now
10:05

DemonRapArtist
"This tea is terrible."
10:05

RenzXVI
A bad version of Jack appeared and is telling him evil things... Let me guess, a good one will appear too.
10:06

DemonRapArtist
*if only you watched from the beginning of the season intensifies* That is a manifestation of Jack's anger, the reason he lost his sword.
10:06

RenzXVI
Good, none appeared. I guess jack himself is the good version.
Seriously,, That excuse of yours is highly invalid.
It would be way more boring and more predictable if I knew what was happening.
Me curious about my predictions being right / wrong is the only thing slightly entertaining me right now.
10:08

DemonRapArtist
Alrighty.
10:09

RenzXVI
That's it? Are you serious? He finds his inner peace, ends the meditation and he wakes up holding his sword?
How the hell can people watch this stupid crap?
Alright. Here was my thoughts before watching it:
"Seems too serious, not much stuff happening, soundtrack is also too monotonous."
Here are my thoughts now:
"Seems too serious, not much stuff happening, soundtrack is also too monotonous. Very very cliche and extremely predictable without even following the series."
10:12

DemonRapArtist
You're hard to interest.
https://youtu.be/7X5DE0Od448 (YT: SAMURAI JACK "The Sword is Forged" - Shot Comparison)
10:12

KINMUNE
SAMURAI JACK "The Sword is Forged" - Shot Comparison
10:13

DemonRapArtist
Pretty epic.
10:13

RenzXVI
Explain how it should've been interesting from all of my accurate predictions and 2/3rds of the show full of desolate nothingness..
And meditation
10:15

DemonRapArtist
I dunno. I certainly enjoyed it. So did many others.
10:16

RenzXVI
It's seriously the most boring cartoon I've seen in my life.
And now I also know it's cliche too.
And highly predictable.
10:17

DemonRapArtist
*shrug*
10:20

RenzXVI
I gave you very accurate predictions of how desolate and gloomy I was expecting it to be and how it was correct. You haven't even managed to provide a counter argument and at one point you actually were leaning on agreeing.
10:20

DemonRapArtist
There's obviously a reason it became successful.
The show as a whole, I mean.
10:22

RenzXVI
Then why did I manage to predict how exactly the episode will feel and be like based on a few episodes I've seen from years ago? It means it's exactly the same, hasn't changed.
Wandering in desolate areas, gloomy atmosphere, monotonous soundtrack, it's all exactly the same.
10:24

DemonRapArtist
Season 5 never attempted to change anything about the show. Why fix something if it was never broken?
10:24

RenzXVI
"How so? Every episode takes place in an entirely different location and Jack always encounters something new. That's one of the things that makes the show great!"
> entirely different
> something new
> it's great like that
10:25

DemonRapArtist
The only changes were the art style (a slight change) and the violence.
10:26

RenzXVI
Counter arguments will be more effective if you weren't doing it against yourself.  :p
And that "never fix something that wasn't broken" excuse is lame... If mankind was content with living in a cave, we'd all still be living in caves.
10:27

DemonRapArtist
Good point.
10:27

RenzXVI
That point is exactly the opposite of what science does.
The strive for modernization and betterment of everything.
10:28

DemonRapArtist
Maybe I need to show you something else.
10:28

RenzXVI
NO WAY I am watching another episode... LOL
I will give you exactly the same review, it's 99% likely.
10:29

DemonRapArtist
https://youtu.be/TRbEMYnqLvY (YT: Why You Should Watch Samurai Jack) Watch this video. It's really good and might convince you. However, this was uploaded before season 5 came out.
10:29

KINMUNE
Why You Should Watch Samurai Jack
10:30

RenzXVI
Nope.
10:30

DemonRapArtist
Why not?
10:30

RenzXVI
Why are you expecting I'd change my mind?
You cant even disagree with my review of the episode.
10:31

DemonRapArtist
Just give this vid a chance.
10:32

RenzXVI
Dude, I gave the show a chance for 17 years.
And another shot now.
My review back then is exactly the same to now.
You should realize that I was only 12 the first time I saw Samurai Jack.
You last 'claimed' that the show hasn't changed much, explain to me why there's a chance I will like it after 17 years of the same boring crap.
10:35

RenzXVI
I've never had a feel for a show this consistent, spanning 17 years. It's the same exact feel.
10:35

RenzXVI
Imagine how that is like.
It's like sitting in a chair for 17 years and dying slowly of old age.
10:36

DemonRapArtist
*16
10:36

RenzXVI
Nice argument.
10:36

DemonRapArtist
lol
What actually interests you in a cartoon?
10:37

RenzXVI
Anything that's far from Samurai Jack, apparently.
10:38

DemonRapArtist
Like?
10:39

RenzXVI
THat's sorta tedious to do. It's like you are asking me to name every cartoon I have seen that is NOT Samurai Jack.
Why cant you just accept it's boring to me.  :p
10:40

DemonRapArtist
Part of me is in the process of doing that.

RenzXVI
I don't get what's hard to accept, I gave you detailed before and after commentary.
It's exactly the same show I've found boring for 16 years.
Except now, it's more cliche and more predictable than I remember back when I was 12 or 13 or whatever age I was when it came out.
10:42

DemonRapArtist
Sometimes, I find it hard to understand why someone doesn't like what I like. I know that sounds extremely narcissistic.
10:43

RenzXVI
I dunno how you are missing my very detailed explanation of everything.
10:44

DemonRapArtist
Samurai Jack just happens to be my favorite cartoon.
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