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- [11:14:52 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Wow ok, I didn't know that Superman is this weak
- [11:14:56 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: tier 5-A
- [11:15:00 AM] Daiki Iranos: He isn't weak at all
- [11:15:17 AM] Daiki Iranos: It's just that kryptonite turns him into a pussy, but otherwise, his potential is limitless
- [11:15:22 AM] Daiki Iranos: And many form of his are omnipotent
- [11:16:11 AM] Daiki Iranos: And in base form, he can sceal a tear between two universes
- [11:16:16 AM] Daiki Iranos: Without really trying
- [11:16:22 AM] *** Himiko Werckmeister facepalms ***
- [11:16:28 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Ok looked at wrong Wikia page
- [11:16:32 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Tier 4-C
- [11:16:41 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: he can eeasily beat Saber
- [11:16:52 AM] Daiki Iranos: Saber is freaking fortress-tier
- [11:16:59 AM] Daiki Iranos: Superman is superman-tier
- [11:17:04 AM] Daiki Iranos: He can defeat anything
- [11:17:15 AM] Daiki Iranos: His power is limitless
- [11:17:38 AM] Chad messer: Secretly makes kryptinite arrows-
- [11:17:44 AM] *** Himiko Werckmeister facepalms ***
- [11:17:46 AM] Daiki Iranos: Some form of Superman are immune to it
- [11:17:48 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Daiki you are delusional
- [11:17:53 AM] Daiki Iranos: One million Superman is omnipotent
- [11:18:07 AM] Daiki Iranos: No Himiko, that's just the character, he's completely limitless
- [11:18:30 AM | 11:18:33 AMを編集しました] Daiki Iranos: He broke a single drop of sweat from bench-pressing the Earth for 7 days without his powers
- [11:18:47 AM] Daiki Iranos: He once held up and carried infinity and eternity
- [11:19:09 AM] Daiki Iranos: He heard a sound made from Jimmy Olsen's Watch when he was near Vega
- [11:19:20 AM] Daiki Iranos: Superman has no equal
- [11:19:23 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Not very impressive
- [11:19:27 AM] Samuel Gray: Meh
- [11:19:31 AM] *** Himiko Werckmeister is skpetical and ain't impressed ***
- [11:19:37 AM] Samuel Gray: Tbh
- [11:19:42 AM] Daiki Iranos: Himiko, he lifted up infinity, he can lift up, and draw punched, at infinite strenght
- [11:19:46 AM] Samuel Gray: Idec
- [11:19:54 AM] Daiki Iranos: He's the second fastest beign in fiction, behind Flash, who is speed infinite
- [11:19:58 AM] Daiki Iranos: He's totally unkillable
- [11:20:08 AM] Samuel Gray: Goku can do that too
- [11:20:15 AM] Samuel Gray: No surprise
- [11:20:17 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Daiki feats or it did not happen
- [11:20:17 AM] Daiki Iranos: He can tank a dip iinto a red sun, his other weakness that makes him normal again, without a scratch
- [11:20:35 AM] Daiki Iranos: http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11129/111291005/5308292-1762280-smcm.jpg
- [11:20:40 AM] Daiki Iranos: Superman lifting a book of infinite pages
- [11:20:51 AM] Daiki Iranos: http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/2/27470/2295960-eternity_is_heavy.jpg
- [11:20:59 AM] Daiki Iranos: Superman lfiting the god of eternity, made of eternity itself
- [11:21:03 AM] Samuel Gray: Thats nice
- [11:21:14 AM] Daiki Iranos: http://ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/DC-1st-Flash-Superman-1-2002.jpg
- [11:21:17 AM] Daiki Iranos: Superman almosts catchin up to Flash
- [11:21:39 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Meh
- [11:21:43 AM] Samuel Gray: Hm
- [11:21:45 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: not very impressive compared to Demonbane
- [11:21:47 AM] Samuel Gray: Cool
- [11:21:49 AM] Daiki Iranos: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--tXxSK3D5--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18ffkaj960gqqjpg.jpg
- [11:21:57 AM] Daiki Iranos: Superman sneezing a solar system
- [11:22:01 AM] Daiki Iranos: Accidently
- [11:22:11 AM] Daiki Iranos: Nobody has more incredibly feat than Superman
- [11:22:18 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Dude can Superman take on someone like Demonbane?
- [11:22:22 AM] Daiki Iranos: Yes, he can
- [11:22:23 AM] Chad messer: Well that secret project Is finished
- [11:22:26 AM] Daiki Iranos: He can take on anyone
- [11:22:28 AM] Samuel Gray: Goku
- [11:22:32 AM] *** Himiko Werckmeister facepalms ***
- [11:22:42 AM] Daiki Iranos: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/60473/1325957-dc100000080pggiant290nv.jpg
- [11:22:44 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: you clearly have no idea who Mars Demonbane is
- [11:22:50 AM] Daiki Iranos: Oh hey, look at one million superman, he created his own universe
- [11:22:58 AM] Daiki Iranos: You have no idea what superman can do then
- [11:23:02 AM] Daiki Iranos: He's limitless, he can beat ANYTHING
- [11:23:04 AM | 11:23:03 AMを編集しました] Daiki Iranos: ANYONE
- [11:23:09 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Pfft not impressed
- [11:23:18 AM] Daiki Iranos: Sure Himiko, if you want
- [11:23:26 AM] Daiki Iranos: Superman is the strongest character in fiction
- [11:23:32 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Fiction?
- [11:23:35 AM] Daiki Iranos: Yes
- [11:23:36 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Dude ever read a VN?
- [11:23:36 AM] Samuel Gray: Nah fam
- [11:23:39 AM] Samuel Gray: Goku
- [11:23:39 AM] Daiki Iranos: Nobody is stronger than that guy
- [11:23:48 AM | 11:23:45 AMを編集しました] Daiki Iranos: He punched omnipotence out of Lex Luthor once
- [11:23:53 AM] FalsosDeos: actually
- [11:23:53 AM] Chad messer: VN?
- [11:23:58 AM] FalsosDeos: Omnipotent superman
- [11:24:01 AM] FalsosDeos: is the fastest beings
- [11:24:02 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: I know plenty of characters that can beat superman and stomp him
- [11:24:04 AM] FalsosDeos: being*
- [11:24:10 AM] FalsosDeos: he can be at every single place at the same time
- [11:24:13 AM] Daiki Iranos: So can Flash
- [11:24:17 AM] Daiki Iranos: The speedforce man...
- [11:24:20 AM] Daiki Iranos: Stupidly broken xD
- [11:24:23 AM] FalsosDeos: XD
- [11:24:24 AM] FalsosDeos: also
- [11:24:37 AM] Samuel Gray: Meh
- [11:24:37 AM] FalsosDeos: Superman can therefore draw strength from a endless amount of suns
- [11:24:49 AM] FalsosDeos: and is physically immune to all damage
- [11:24:54 AM] Daiki Iranos: ^
- [11:24:59 AM] FalsosDeos: meaning he can not be damaged
- [11:25:00 AM] FalsosDeos: therefore
- [11:25:02 AM] FalsosDeos: not killed
- [11:25:02 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: keynote: physically immune
- [11:25:07 AM] Daiki Iranos: NOpe
- [11:25:10 AM] Daiki Iranos: Everything-immune
- [11:25:10 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: it means his soul can be targetted
- [11:25:13 AM] Daiki Iranos: Nope
- [11:25:17 AM] FalsosDeos: He is everything immune
- [11:25:20 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Are you saying superman is tier 0?
- [11:25:23 AM] FalsosDeos: He talked 2 god XD
- [11:25:23 AM] Daiki Iranos: Nothing can affect him
- [11:25:24 AM] Daiki Iranos: Yes he is
- [11:25:28 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Dude I call BS
- [11:25:35 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: absolute BS
- [11:25:39 AM] Daiki Iranos: He punched omnipotence out of Lex Luthor who had became an absolute god
- [11:25:41 AM] FalsosDeos: Omnipotent superman is basically the christian god
- [11:25:55 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: I know other canon characters that can kill God easily
- [11:25:57 AM] Daiki Iranos: And don't give Superman his fucking sword
- [11:26:02 AM] FalsosDeos: Himiko
- [11:26:04 AM] FalsosDeos: He is
- [11:26:06 AM] FalsosDeos: the strongest.
- [11:26:08 AM] FalsosDeos: no contest
- [11:26:10 AM] Daiki Iranos: No contest at all
- [11:26:16 AM] Daiki Iranos: Except Superboy...
- [11:26:19 AM] FalsosDeos: he is stronger than Dimas <3
- [11:26:21 AM] FalsosDeos: ;)
- [11:26:32 AM] Samuel Gray: Goku
- [11:26:34 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: I know other characters in canoon that can stomp Superman just by talking!
- [11:26:36 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: yes TALKING!
- [11:26:42 AM] FalsosDeos: Dimas = Chatango’s best rp fighter
- [11:26:43 AM] Samuel Gray: Goku
- [11:26:44 AM] FalsosDeos: no contest
- [11:26:45 AM] Daiki Iranos: No sorry Himiko
- [11:26:46 AM] Daiki Iranos: They can't
- [11:26:53 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Oh yes they can
- [11:26:55 AM] Daiki Iranos: Nope
- [11:27:00 AM | 11:26:56 AMを編集しました] Daiki Iranos: He's immune to everything Himiko
- [11:27:02 AM] FalsosDeos: what character are you talking about
- [11:27:04 AM] Daiki Iranos: Nothing can affect him, at all
- [11:27:14 AM] Samuel Gray: Not kryptonite
- [11:27:24 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Hajun
- [11:27:27 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: ^this SOB
- [11:27:27 AM] FalsosDeos: I only know one character that is maybe stronger than superman
- [11:27:37 AM] Daiki Iranos: Samuel, actually, immunity to kryptonie is among Superman's power later
- [11:27:46 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Hajun can atomize every single existence possible
- [11:27:49 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Hajun vs Superman
- [11:27:52 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Hajun stomps
- [11:28:11 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Manji Mandara - Muryou Taisuu: The manifestation of Hajun’s Law, “I want to be alone”. While its function is simple when compared to the Laws of the other Hadou Gods, it is by far the most deadly. If it were ever activated, all of existence would be annihilated aside from Hajun himself, allowing him to be left alone for all of eternity.
- [11:28:13 AM] FalsosDeos: Nigh-Omniscient,
- [11:28:15 AM] Daiki Iranos: Nope
- [11:28:17 AM] Daiki Iranos: He can't xD
- [11:28:18 AM] Daiki Iranos: Sorry
- [11:28:20 AM] FalsosDeos: superman is omnipotent
- [11:28:20 AM] FalsosDeos: XD
- [11:28:24 AM] Daiki Iranos: ^
- [11:28:29 AM] Daiki Iranos: He can think Hajun away
- [11:28:31 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Proof from VS battles or it did not happen
- [11:28:45 AM] Daiki Iranos: Nobody do VS battle against Superman
- [11:28:48 AM] Samuel Gray: I See
- [11:28:51 AM] Daiki Iranos: Because nobody can win
- [11:29:04 AM] Daiki Iranos: You don't fight an omnipotent being unless you're names Asura
- [11:29:22 AM] Daiki Iranos: In which case, punch it until the multiverse merge and reset
- [11:29:57 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Daiki which version of Superman are you talking about? Because on VSbattleswikia the highest tier Superman went is tier 4-A
- [11:30:06 AM] Daiki Iranos: 1 million Superman
- [11:30:12 AM] Daiki Iranos: Sword of Superman Superman
- [11:30:16 AM] Daiki Iranos: Trinity Superman
- [11:30:21 AM] Daiki Iranos: All of which are omnipotent
- [11:30:25 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime_(One_Million)
- [11:30:32 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: ^do you mean this version?
- [11:30:34 AM] Daiki Iranos: Himiko, your sire is BS
- [11:30:52 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: yeah you know your feats are even more BS
- [11:30:57 AM] Samuel Gray: interesting
- [11:30:58 AM] Daiki Iranos: Every single stat he as is unkown
- [11:31:07 AM] Daiki Iranos: Because he's limitless
- [11:31:13 AM] Daiki Iranos: And nobody is stupid enough to fight this guy
- [11:31:26 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: There is a dickass difference between Unknown and True Infinity Daiki
- [11:31:41 AM] Daiki Iranos: Unkown could be, and in this case, is True infinity
- [11:31:44 AM] FalsosDeos: Can we all just agree
- [11:31:46 AM] Chad messer: Sits and eats popcorn watching this argument
- [11:31:47 AM] FalsosDeos: that I have the biggest penis
- [11:31:50 AM] FalsosDeos: ?
- [11:31:51 AM] Daiki Iranos: Totally
- [11:31:54 AM] FalsosDeos: cool
- [11:31:56 AM] *** Himiko Werckmeister kicks Falsos in the balls ***
- [11:32:03 AM] FalsosDeos: -balls of steel-
- [11:32:07 AM] FalsosDeos: -does not cringe-
- [11:32:07 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Daiki you don't even understand
- [11:32:15 AM] FalsosDeos: Also
- [11:32:18 AM] FalsosDeos: can we also agree
- [11:32:18 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Unknown doesn't imply True Infinity
- [11:32:27 AM] Daiki Iranos: No, but superman Prime does
- [11:32:30 AM] Daiki Iranos: He is limitless
- [11:32:36 AM] Samuel Gray: ....
- [11:32:45 AM] Daiki Iranos: Just stop it Himiko
- [11:32:45 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: it means his AP or whatever stat cannot be measured by conventional means
- [11:32:48 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: You actually think superman dies
- [11:32:50 AM] Chad messer: Hey Grimm want some popcorn?
- [11:32:55 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Wow
- [11:32:56 AM] Daiki Iranos: He doesn't
- [11:33:08 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Daiki why don't you stop and have a logical debate with me
- [11:33:09 AM] Daiki Iranos: Even in a title where it's written '' DEATH OF SUPERMAN '' He's still alive a few comics after that
- [11:33:27 AM] Daiki Iranos: Himiko, because there is no debate, Superman is omnipotent, invulnerable and completely unlimited
- [11:33:28 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: because apparently you aren't capable of having a solid intellectual debate
- [11:33:36 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Like
- Its so damn obvious
- [11:33:37 AM] Daiki Iranos: There is no debate to have against Superman
- [11:33:42 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: keynote: invulnerable doesn't mean invincible
- [11:33:46 AM] FalsosDeos: can we agree that me having bbq and a beer is much more important than flinging childish discussions about fictional characters?
- [11:33:46 AM] Daiki Iranos: He is
- [11:33:46 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: he can still be killed
- [11:33:52 AM] Daiki Iranos: No he can't
- [11:33:52 AM] Samuel Gray: nah im good
- [11:33:54 AM] Daiki Iranos: He can't be killed
- [11:33:58 AM] FalsosDeos: because it has just turned into a word against word dumbfuck discussion
- [11:34:02 AM] FalsosDeos: that will never end
- [11:34:03 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Derek superman gets killed multiple times
- [11:34:08 AM] Daiki Iranos: Oringen
- [11:34:10 AM] Chad messer: Okay - eats a handful-
- [11:34:10 AM] FalsosDeos: until everyone just stops being dumb
- [11:34:10 AM] Daiki Iranos: He never dies, he comes back
- [11:34:12 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Dude you have no idea what the living fuck you are talking about Daiki
- [11:34:15 AM] Daiki Iranos: He's just sleeping basically
- [11:34:19 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: By people batman then defeats
- [11:34:24 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Falsos I am capable of holding a solid debate
- [11:34:34 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: No there are comics where superman dies
- [11:34:35 AM] FalsosDeos: Oringen he is not talking about classic superman
- [11:34:35 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Daiki othoh is relying on feats that are subjective
- [11:34:40 AM] FalsosDeos: he is talking about superman prime
- [11:34:40 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: And never comes back
- [11:34:41 AM] Daiki Iranos: No Oringen
- [11:34:42 AM] Daiki Iranos: There is none
- [11:34:45 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Origen proves my point exactly
- [11:34:50 AM] FalsosDeos: now im going to go and eat bbq
- [11:34:56 AM] Daiki Iranos: And Superman Prime is True infinity himself
- [11:35:09 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: No he isn't Daiki
- [11:35:12 AM] Daiki Iranos: He is
- [11:35:12 AM] Samuel Gray: Hes sucking supermans anus
- [11:35:16 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: he is a simulation of Infinity
- [11:35:21 AM] Daiki Iranos: No, he is plain and simple, it
- [11:35:23 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: there is a huge difference Daiki
- [11:35:31 AM] Samuel Gray: Just let it be
- [11:35:35 AM] Daiki Iranos: He is true infinity Himiko, i'm done
- [11:35:40 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: No he isn't
- [11:35:41 AM] Daiki Iranos: Accept it, nobody can defeat him
- [11:35:52 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Himi I'm but proving you're point I'm just standing the right side of the argument not the biased fanboy side Derek is on
- [11:36:14 AM] Daiki Iranos: Anyway, i'm out of here
- [11:36:25 AM] Daiki Iranos: And for the record, i barely even like Superman, pre new-52, i hated him.
- [11:36:30 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: If you do the math and the logic fucking goku could kick the shit out of superman in super sayian 1
- [11:36:40 AM] Daiki Iranos: Oh no
- [11:36:42 AM] Daiki Iranos: He's retarded.
- [11:37:27 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Himi I want you to look something up on YouTube for me
- [11:37:45 AM | 11:37:46 AMを編集しました] Himiko Werckmeister: Daiki says that guy who can't math
- [11:38:22 AM] Samuel Gray: Goku would honestly kick supermans ass
- [11:38:38 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Here's a video
- Like watch this
- [11:38:41 AM] Chad messer: I wonder if Thanos would also
- [11:38:52 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: https://youtu.be/9m-kjmxsZms
- [11:39:08 AM] Samuel Gray: Screw attack jusr nerfed him down so much
- [11:41:59 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Oringen as a well versed anime fan/VN fan/ and literature fan
- [11:42:06 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: I clearly see flaws in that video already
- [11:42:14 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: first off they only used Goku as an example
- [11:42:22 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: which is an anime character
- [11:42:34 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: have they even tried comparing Superman with other VN characters?
- [11:42:43 AM] Daiki Iranos: DBZ has no clear scaling because it always end up in fist fight, so they could be WAY stronger than we think xD
- [11:42:46 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: What are you talking about
- This video is for batman v super man
- [11:43:00 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: The Film theory video
- [11:43:11 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: The fuck were you watching
- [11:43:20 AM] Daiki Iranos: And honestly, Film theorist is one of my favorite video ever, but Superman only being able to lift a spaceship? Yeah no, he did more than that already
- [11:43:37 AM] Daiki Iranos: But it works for Movie superman
- [11:43:38 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Origen don't play dumb with me
- [11:43:41 AM] Daiki Iranos: Who is nerfed to be interesting
- [11:43:42 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: you liinked a video to me
- [11:44:06 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: You went and watched some anime video
- [11:44:17 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m-kjmxsZms&feature=youtu.be
- [11:44:21 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Derek let's pit it this way
- [11:44:31 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m-kjmxsZms&feature=youtu.be <- you linked this battle to me prick
- [11:44:37 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: in the chat actually
- [11:44:54 AM] Daiki Iranos: Movie supermann is weaker than any other superman, but he's also the most interesting of all
- [11:44:57 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: The strongest thing that superman has done is destroy one planet
- [11:45:03 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: One
- [11:45:11 AM] Daiki Iranos: No, it's not
- [11:45:18 AM] Daiki Iranos: Do you want scans of him doing more than that?
- [11:45:23 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Yea
- Name somethin
- [11:45:39 AM] Daiki Iranos: Superman sneezing a solar system
- [11:45:40 AM] Daiki Iranos: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--tXxSK3D5--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18ffkaj960gqqjpg.jpg
- [11:45:54 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: That's silver age superman
- [11:45:57 AM] Daiki Iranos: Superman lifting a book of infinite pages
- [11:45:58 AM] Daiki Iranos: http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11129/111291005/5308292-1762280-smcm.jpg
- [11:46:09 AM] Daiki Iranos: New 52
- [11:46:12 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Thats nothing! Hajun can blow up a complex multiverse with a universe level buster
- [11:46:19 AM] Daiki Iranos: Himiko, shut up
- [11:46:29 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Daiki you are the one who should shut up
- [11:46:37 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: for one you don't know DI
- [11:46:40 AM] Daiki Iranos: Superman lifting a god made of eternity
- [11:46:40 AM] Daiki Iranos: http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/2/27470/2295960-eternity_is_heavy.jpg
- [11:46:44 AM] *** Himiko Werckmeister facepalms ***
- [11:46:56 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Hajun can OHKO that would a planet level buster
- [11:46:58 AM] Daiki Iranos: Superman holding a black hole
- [11:46:58 AM] Daiki Iranos: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4063755-2986457-superman%2Bmini%2Bblack%2Bhole%2B3_.jpg
- [11:47:05 AM] *** Himiko Werckmeister again facepalms ***
- [11:47:08 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Okay so he can lift infinity which they never explained
- And sneeze a solar system which is still bullshit
- [11:47:23 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: ^
- [11:47:25 AM] Daiki Iranos: Superman is bullshit
- [11:47:30 AM] Daiki Iranos: He's also not fun to read
- [11:47:37 AM] Daiki Iranos: Movie superman is funnier than any superman i just showed
- [11:47:41 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Now I can tell you for a fact that even though the scale of dbz isn't clear.
- [11:47:59 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Goku could still fuck up
- superman
- [11:48:02 AM] Daiki Iranos: The lasts fight between Goku and Beerus made the univers shake
- [11:48:12 AM] Daiki Iranos: Superman lifted up infinity
- [11:48:13 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Both of you that damage scale is nothing
- [11:48:26 AM] Daiki Iranos: Lifting up infinity is as op as it getss
- [11:48:30 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Hajun can destroy a complex multiverse with a planet level buster
- [11:48:39 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: And neither of which were going at it fully derek
- [11:48:44 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: that proves that attack ignores scale
- [11:48:58 AM] Daiki Iranos: I know Oringen, but Superman is limitless, it's stupid, i know, it's BS, i know, but it's there
- [11:49:07 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Daiki you clearly don't know what you are talking about
- [11:49:11 AM] Daiki Iranos: Himiko
- [11:49:15 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Hajun can stomp superman with a rock level buster
- [11:49:21 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: ROCK LEVEL!
- [11:49:25 AM] Daiki Iranos: Can you please shut your fucking whore mouth and stop annoying people who are having a clear discussion for fuck sake?
- [11:49:26 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: I know but so is goku and he has been fighting his whole life.
- [11:49:39 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: That gives him more experience in a fight
- [11:49:41 AM] Daiki Iranos: I know, Goku is clearly cooler than Superman in any form
- [11:49:49 AM] Daiki Iranos: But Superman fought for thousands of years
- [11:49:55 AM] Daiki Iranos: Millions of years
- [11:50:02 AM] Samuel Gray: So?
- [11:50:28 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Daiki can you stop being so childish and actually debate logically?
- [11:50:33 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: And since he's been training against things far stronger than him. He managed to make it to a point where if you put super and goku in a fight odds are goku would win.
- [11:50:40 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Not saying he'd kill superman
- [11:50:42 AM] Daiki Iranos: You don't debate logically and you just throw stuff at people Himiko, just shut up
- [11:50:45 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/cosmic-armor-superman-vs-elder-god-demonbane.404788/
- [11:50:46 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: But had win
- [11:50:56 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Daiki you clearly have no idea what you are talking about so you shut it
- [11:51:00 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: I know what i am talking about
- [11:51:02 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: you don't
- [11:51:04 AM] Daiki Iranos: Goku wouldn't win, sorry, but Superman is absolutely invincible
- [11:51:14 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: No he isn't
- [11:51:15 AM] Daiki Iranos: He is
- [11:51:16 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: No he isn't
- [11:51:18 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: look at that spacebattle thread
- [11:51:24 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: EGD stomps superman
- [11:51:33 AM] Daiki Iranos: Nothing has ever affected Superman 1 million
- [11:51:35 AM] Daiki Iranos: And Nothing can
- [11:51:42 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: In comics its shown that he gets extremely hurt and near mortal injury.
- [11:51:51 AM] Daiki Iranos: When he was starting
- [11:52:04 AM | 11:52:02 AMを編集しました] Daiki Iranos: Like against Doomsday, he almost died, but you know what happened when he fought a stronger Doomsday recently?
- [11:52:05 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Origen proves my point exactly
- [11:52:12 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: EGD can easily stomp him
- [11:52:31 AM] Daiki Iranos: Oh look, Superman is fighting the immortal doomdsay that cannot be killed
- [11:52:31 AM] Daiki Iranos: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/132594/3819981-8637675684-13997.jpg
- [11:52:34 AM] Daiki Iranos: Oups, he killed it
- [11:52:57 AM] Daiki Iranos: He physically killed a monster who is physically invulnerable
- [11:53:14 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Hello want to debate semantics now?
- [11:53:19 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: There's a science behind it that he can be physically and mortally injured as an adult. But it takes a force stronger or as strong as superman and his what they call "super armor" breaks
- [11:53:34 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Physcially Invulnerable
- [11:53:41 AM] Daiki Iranos: Except superman constantly does things that Science see as immpossible
- [11:53:42 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: meaning he can still be attacked spirtually
- [11:53:56 AM] Daiki Iranos: Himiko, no, doomsday or superman can't be attacked spiritually
- [11:54:09 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Yes hes killed a monster which is a relative term by the way
- But so has batman
- [11:54:16 AM] Daiki Iranos: Jesus Himiko, Doomsday himself stomps any of your OC
- [11:54:24 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Batman hes killed things superman physically couldn't
- [11:54:30 AM] Daiki Iranos: With the HelBat
- [11:54:33 AM] Daiki Iranos: Or because he's smart
- [11:54:42 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Jesus Daiki
- [11:54:50 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: you haven't seen my OC's full potential yet
- [11:54:51 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: "The DC Metaverse has every single event spawning infinite universes every moment. That means starting from a single event one would get a metaverse the size of the Marvel Cosmos you describe in about 3 moments (First moment turns into a multiverse, second into a megaverse, third into what you described). Time has been going on for far longer then three moments in DC."
- "In other words, this is nonsense, because once you have aleph-0 universes, you do not get more than aleph-0 universes no matter how many more universes are multiplying from it with every moment. Likewise, once you have aleph-0 universes, it is impossible to get more than aleph-0 universes by multiplying the number of universes across higher dimensions."
- [11:55:01 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: ^also do you even understand this?^
- [11:55:03 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: How about we take darkseid as an example
- [11:55:24 AM] Daiki Iranos: Look guys, i'm really tired of this, and i don't really care much, so i'm just going to leave...
- [11:55:30 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: Bye
- [11:55:37 AM] Daiki Iranos: Bye bye, take care
- [11:55:51 AM] Oringen ColebrookFlowers: You too
- [11:56:15 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: Jeez salty kid
- [11:56:24 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: he couldn't even post a quantifiable feat
- [11:56:37 AM] Himiko Werckmeister: like I mean Hajun can stomp Superman with a rock level buster
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