'interview rhyme and yukari' hour (from #tulpa)

[01:23] <obi_wan> rhyme what does your tulpa look like
[01:23] <+Pronas> its yukari from persona 3
[01:23] <&Rhyme> google yukari takeba, imagine with black hair and blue eyes

Session Start: Fri Apr 06 07:14:21 2012
[08:15] <+Simulacrum> Gasp, Rhyme's tulpa can talk?
[08:15] <+PiMaster> Not too long (because longer will hurt the ladies)
[08:15] <+Simulacrum> Since how long ago?
[08:16] <&Rhymey> like 3 days
[08:16] <+Simulacrum> After how many hours?
[08:16] <&Rhymey> only really noticed it when she yelled at me for waking her up.
[08:16] <&Rhymey> hour a day, 53 days, skipped a couple
[08:16] <+Simulacrum> How cute.
[08:16] <+Simulacrum> Nice.
[08:16] <+Simulacrum> Sounds like it's going well.
[08:17] <+Feral> dammit i want to start on mine now, you bastard :P
[08:17] <&Rhymey> only thing that's worrysome is she sounds ridiculously similar to me. sliiightly more feminine. been told it'll change though
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[08:27] <&Rhymey> dude she is still responding to these people
[08:27] <&Rhymey> ;_;
[08:28] <+Feral> hi rhymeys tulpa, talk to me too!
[08:28] <+Feral> im way cooler then he is anyways
[08:28] <+Simulacrum> Rhymey: who
[08:28] <+PiMaster> Let's have Rhymey make an alt for her
[08:28] <+PiMaster> Is she far enough?
[08:28] <&Rhymey> wat
[08:28] <@MQQSE> I took it off her twenty minutes or so in, like I said.  And by "took it off", I mean I ripped it in half.  I don't know why, it probably would have been better to actually take it off her.
[08:29] <+PiMaster> Lol
[08:29] <+Simulacrum> Did she look impressed?
[08:29] <&Rhymey> 'terrifying.'
[08:29] <+Feral> raaaaghhhh hulk strength!
[08:29] <+PiMaster> Rhymey, is your tulpa far along enough to sustain semi-decent conversations?
[08:29] <@MQQSE> Yeah, I was planning on making an alt on at least one of the forums I go to for my tulpa if she wanted.
[08:29] <&Rhymey> seems that way. sentences are somewhat run ons but not bad enough i can't fix them
[08:29] <+Feral> meh, she have a name? just put it in with that
[08:30] <+PiMaster> Ok
[08:30] <@MQQSE> @Simulacrum: I haven't done facial expressions yet.  And anyway, I didn't give it a second thought, really.  It's my mind, I do what I want ( '-')
[08:30] <+PiMaster> Register an alt and get dat fine lady in here
[08:30] <&Rhymey> man
[08:30] <+Feral> tulpas name: hi how are you
[08:30] <+Feral> that sorta thing
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[08:30] <&Source> [Yuka-tan] Deny the obvious, uphold the insane
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[08:30] <&Yuka-tan> >name is actually yukari
[08:30] <&Yuka-tan> >but yukari is registered
[08:30] <&Yuka-tan> so.
[08:30] <+Vinni> dat yukari
[08:31] <+PiMaster> Is it?
[08:31] <+PiMaster> That's weird
[08:31] <+Vinni> P3 yukari
[08:31] <+Vinni> amirite
[08:31] <+Simulacrum> No it isn't
[08:31] <+PiMaster> I've never seen a yukari
[08:31] <+Feral> pomf
[08:31] <+Simulacrum> There's like a million people on this server.
[08:31] <&Rhymey> Vinni: yeah
[08:31] <+PiMaster> Ah
[08:31] <+Vinni> [03:30:45] -NickServ- Yukari is name
[08:31] <+Vinni> -
[08:31] <+Vinni> [03:30:46] -NickServ- Yukari is currently online.
[08:31] <+Vinni> -
[08:31] <+Vinni> [03:30:46] -NickServ-   Time registered: Feb 18 19:14:48 2008 MST
[08:31] <+Vinni> j/s
[08:31] <+Simulacrum> HOly fuck
[08:31] <+Riggityroll> So, does anyone know exactly when this tulpa thing started? I read all of the preliminary infos and such and I'm pretty interested.
[08:31] <+Simulacrum> I still have Vinni ignored.
[08:31] <+Vinni> :3c
[08:31] <+Vinni> LOL
[08:31] <+Vinni> i have no idea
[08:31] <+Vinni> why you'd ignore little poor me
[08:31] <+Vinni> ;_;
[08:31] <+Simulacrum> Just unignored. hi.
[08:31] <+Feral> hrm, i need to register my name
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[08:31] <+PiMaster> Ok yuka-tan, what do you look like?
[08:31] <+PiMaster> Hi Irish
[08:31] <+Simulacrum> You were being obnoxious a while ago.
[08:31] <+Vinni> hi
[08:32] <+Simulacrum> IRISIIIIIISH
[08:32] <+Vinni> wat
[08:32] <+Vinni> i'm never obnoxious
[08:32] <+Vinni> :(
[08:32] <+PiMaster> We're interroga- I mean talking to Rhyme's tulpa
[08:32] <+Simulacrum> with an extra S
[08:32] <@MQQSE> Irish =D
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[08:32] <&Rhymey> somewhat, anyway!
[08:32] <+PiMaster> Vinni is the opposite of obnoxious at all times in all universes in all possible paths of the universe at once
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[08:32] <+Simulacrum> We were just rap- I mean gently caressing little girls.
[08:33] <+randanon_mobile> Hot
[08:33] <@MQQSE> Irish_, fix my subconscious, it's stupid.
[08:33] <+randanon_mobile> I'm sad I misses it
[08:33] <+Vinni> (っ´ω｀)っ
[08:33] <+Simulacrum> You fix it yourself.
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[08:33] <+Simulacrum> AHAH
[08:33] <+Simulacrum> I knew it.
[08:33] <@MQQSE> WILD IRISH FLED
[08:33] <+Simulacrum> It's a ghost.
[08:33] <+Simulacrum> Well, now it's the real one.
[08:33] <+Simulacrum> But he was ghosting.
[08:33] <@MQQSE> Ahh.
[08:34] <+PiMaster> Are we not talking to Yuka-tan any more?
[08:34] <@MQQSE> I hated it when that used to happen to me, before I used a client.
[08:34] <+Feral> woot
[08:34] <&Yuka-tan> 'um, what did you guys want to talk about..?'
[08:34] <+Feral> finally have my name properly registered
[08:34] <+Simulacrum> Irish uses a client, I think
[08:34] <+Simulacrum> Just shitty internet.
[08:34] <@MQQSE> Fair enough.
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[08:35] <+Simulacrum> Yuka-tan, what's your opinion on the recent developements in Syria?
[08:35] <@MQQSE> I so want to have a separate IRC just for tulpas.  Eventually, when there's more full ones out there.
[08:35] <&Yuka-tan> '...what developments? i thought it was still a bad place.'
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[08:35] <@MQQSE> x_x
[08:35] <+Feral> hi yuka, what do you look like if you mind sharing
[08:36] <+Simulacrum> So deliciously innocent.
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[08:36] <+randanon_mobile> A giant penis
[08:36] <+Vinni> how does it feel living in Rhymey's head
[08:36] <+Vinni> (　｀ー´)
[08:36] <+randanon_mobile> An innocent, giant penis
[08:37] <@MQQSE> Well, I'm going to go play some Kid Icarus.
[08:37] <+Feral> lol it would be hilarious if someone actually went about making their tulpa a retarded form
[08:37] <&Yuka-tan> 'booooring. all he does is stay in his room and play games and talk here.'
[08:37] <+Vinni> tell him to be less boring the
[08:37] <+Vinni> n
[08:37] <+Feral> yea, drag his ass out
[08:37] <+PiMaster> Lol
[08:38] <&Yuka-tan> 'it's fun watching him get mad about losing, though!'
[08:38] <&Rhymey> 1,1my pride
[08:38] <+PiMaster> Lolol
[08:38] <&Rhymey> 1,1my precious pride
[08:38] <+randanon_mobile> Pride, you has none
[08:38] <+Feral> haha, your tulpa thinks you rage too much
[08:39] <+Feral> i hope you made her chill rhymey, sounds like you could use it :P
[08:39] <+Simulacrum> Rhymey I fucking love your tulpa.
[08:39] <&Rhymey> note: some accuracy may be lost during fixing run on sentences
[08:40] <&Yuka-tan> 'thanks, i think?'
[08:40] <+randanon_mobile> Am I the only one besides faq with a male tulpa?
[08:40] <+Feral> haha probably, if i want someone following me around for the rest of my life, i want it female :p
[08:40] <+Feral> and no, im not going to fuck her, so dont ask :p
[08:40] <+PiMaster> It's kind of weird that she speaks with run-on sentences
[08:41] <+PiMaster> You'd think she would have access to your linguistic cores
[08:41] <+PiMaster> But she has to relearn language...?
[08:41] <+randanon_mobile> Are you going to fuck her, Feral?
[08:41] <&Rhymey> PiMaster: well, she's been talking for almost an hour
[08:41] <+Feral> from what ive seen, it seems like they start off pretty childish, then develop from there
[08:41] <+PiMaster> Still
[08:41] <+PiMaster> She IS you, in a sense
[08:41] <+PiMaster> She shares your brain parts
[08:42] <+Feral> yes, random, yes i am
[08:42] <&Rhymey> she was fine to strat but it kinda wore off, kinda understandable
[08:42] <+PiMaster> Meaning she SHOULD have access to where you store the memory for what words sound like and how sentences are structured
[08:42] <&Rhymey> start, even
[08:42] <+Feral> im sure shell learn in time
[08:43] <+Feral> still never answered what you look like yuka, or do you not want to share?
[08:43] <&Rhymey> equally as her words worsened i got a slight headache
[08:43] <&Rhymey> might be because [i
[08:43] <&Rhymey> am somewhat tired, who knows
[08:44] <&Rhymey> Feral i donno if i'd like to dive into her folder on my pc when she's watching
[08:44] <&Rhymey> if you know what i mean
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[08:44] <+PiMaster> Hm
[08:44] <+PiMaster> We need an explanation for this
[08:44] <+Feral> lol shoo her away then, but fine
[08:44] <+PiMaster> It doesn't make any sense
[08:45] <@MQQSE> Clearly running a tulpa is causing your brain to reach it's limits, thus there was a sacrifice in the linguistics department.  Time to overclock!
[08:45] <+Feral> aww shit, hes going to overheat
[08:46] <+Naggie> O.o
[08:46] <&Yuka-tan> 'does pimaster always make fun of tulpae who can't speak perfectly?'
[08:46] <+Naggie> holy shit thats an awful smiley face
[08:46] <+Feral> apparently, tell him hes a jerk
[08:47] <+PiMaster> Lol
[08:47] <+PiMaster> Yep
[08:47] <&Rhymey> Feral: she has been, somewhat.
[08:47] <+PiMaster> I'm such a tulpa-ist
[08:47] <+PiMaster> Beingist?
[08:47] <+Feral> haha
01[08:47] <+Semi-Nomadic> STOP DISCRIMINATION
[08:47] <&Yuka-tan> 'douchist!'
01[08:47] <+Semi-Nomadic> TULPA PRIDE
[08:47] <+PiMaster> Lol
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[08:47] <@MQQSE> Damn, just think of it like a child, in that it may very well know the rules of language, but doesn't give a fuck as long as it's point is made.
[08:47] <+Naggie> I wish I knew what was going on...
[08:47] <@MQQSE> It's not a big deal anyway.
[08:47] <+PiMaster> I wish this was more studied
[08:48] <+PiMaster> It would be helpful to know exactly where a tulpa is in the first place
[08:48] <+Feral> yea thats what i thought, they start child like, become more "mature" if you will over time
[08:48] <+RainbowCrash> I'm back
[08:48] <&Rhymey> Naggie: woke tulpa up because of other friends wanting to talk to her, mentioned it here, people went crazy, now doing things

Session Start: Sun Apr 22 03:25:43 2012
[05:36] <&Rhyme> yukari says hi
[05:36] <+Sovereign_> or does the order not matter?
[05:36] <+lulu> I do both at the same time
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[05:37] <+lulu> she going to change anyway
[05:37] <+Sovereign_> only for the better
[05:37] <&Rhyme> fine yukari doesn't say hi, fuck you guys
06[05:37] * &Rhyme roll
[05:37] <+Shiri-tan> who
[05:38] <&Pronas> YOUR MOTHER
[05:38] <&Rhyme> my chalupa
[05:38] <&Rhyme> also yes, your mother
[05:38] <+Biotech> D: ryhme
[05:38] <+Biotech> I say herro back
[05:38] <+lulu> how long did it take for you guys to get to the head voices?
[05:39] <+Sovereign_> who yukari?
[05:39] <+Biotech> 	Rasputin, the level 7 Sodomy Bandit, is now online from nickname Biotech. Next level in 0 days, 00:06:59.
[05:39] <&Pronas> HIS TOOL PA
[05:39] <&Pronas> FOOL
[05:39] <+Sovereign_> oh good, at least someone here already has one
[05:39] <&Pronas> it'll take forever for me
[05:39] <&Pronas> forever
[05:39] <&Pronas> and ever~
[05:39] <&Rhyme> 'hi biotech! how're you?'
[05:39] <&Pronas> until the day i die and see my mom coming for me
[05:39] <+Sovereign_> i just need to get my visualization down better
[05:39] <&Rhyme> also somethingabout pronas being a pessimist
[05:40] <+spoot> nah, he's just whiny
[05:40] <&Rhyme> synonyms, right
[05:40] <+Biotech> I'm dandy, how long have you been able to talk for Yukari?
[05:41] <&Rhyme> 'about two weeks, i think?'
[05:41] <+Sovereign_> can you see yukari at all?
[05:41] <+lulu> I think its been at least 3 days since I said a word to her
[05:41] <&Rhyme> Sovereign_: irl or other
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[05:42] <+Sovereign_> i guess "irl"
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[05:42] <&Pronas> ask her what does she thinks of your fetishes
[05:42] <+Biotech> I was wondering about Tulpas and memories during creation... What is the earliest memory you have? And how long into creation were you Rhyme?
[05:42] <&Pronas> because thats what im worried about
[05:42] <&Rhyme> Biotech: she even remembers the second time i worked on personality
[05:43] <+Sovereign_> can't you shape their ersonalities if you want?
[05:43] <&Rhyme> which was long before she even said a word
[05:43] <&Rhyme> Pronas: 'the whole 'necrophiliac' thing is a bit weird but the rest i don't mind.'
[05:43] <+lulu> dammit man
[05:43] <&Pronas> awww~
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[05:43] <+lulu> DAMMIT
[05:43] <&Pronas> so he likes dead girls~
[05:43] <+spoot> hah
[05:43] <+Biotech> Wow, that is cool
[05:44] <+lulu> getting on her makes me want her so bad
[05:44] <&Rhyme> .
[05:44] <&Rhyme> .
[05:44] <&Rhyme> .
[05:44] <&Rhyme> lulu what
[05:44] <+spoot> do they still have to be warm, or are you good with freezer meat?
[05:44] <+lulu> here!!!
[05:44] <+lulu> here
[05:44] <&Pronas> lulu wants to rape your tulpa
[05:44] <+lulu> here...
[05:44] <&Rhyme> n-no!
[05:44] <+lulu> here*
[05:44] <+Biotech> Yukari, when are you going to convince rhyme to let you try possession?
[05:44] <&Pronas> yukari misunderstands, Rhyme likes ice fairies like cirno
[05:44] <&Pronas> not dead girls
[05:44] <&Pronas> silly yukarin~
[05:45] <&Rhyme> spoot: i have no idea where the necrophiliac thing came from. may have been a refrence to rea
[05:45] <&Rhyme> kanye shrug.jpg
[05:45] <+Sovereign_> suuuure
[05:45] <+spoot> uh-huh
[05:45] <+spoot> sure, buddy
[05:45] <+spoot> sure
[05:45] <&Pronas> or he likes hsien-ko
[05:45] <&Rhyme> Biotech: man i want her to at least have a distinguishable voice and somewhat imposed on reality (peripheral at least) before that
[05:46] <+Biotech> D'aww
[05:46] <+__roflmao__> isn't her (imagined) voice distinguishable?
[05:46] <+Sovereign_> wait, if she doesn't have a distingusable voice, how do you know she's talking?
[05:46] <+__roflmao__> (from yours)
[05:46] <+lulu> I like hsien-ko too
[05:46] <+spoot> it's supposed to sound like you at first and gradually change
[05:46] <&Rhyme> __roflmao__: the one i'm trying to give her? yes. right now she sounds like a slightly more feminine me. in my head. it's weird.
[05:47] <+Shiri-tan> What does she sound like?
[05:47] <+Shiri-tan> does she have an accent?
[05:47] <&Rhyme> right now she sounds like a slightly more feminine me. in my head. it's weird.
[05:47] <+lulu> did you get that alien feeling?
[05:47] <+lulu> when she first spoke
[05:48] <+lulu> brb
[05:48] <+Sovereign_> My tulpa's going to call me hanii, and it will be awesome
[05:48] <+__roflmao__> my inner voice is so damn generic that at times it worries me
[05:48] <&Rhyme> lulu: ye
[05:48] <&Rhyme> Sovereign_: do you mean onee-chan
[05:48] <+Biotech> Yukariii, do you dream?
[05:48] <+Sovereign_> nope
[05:48] <+Sovereign_> Hanii master race
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[05:49] <&Rhyme> Biotech: 'sometimes. most of the time i don't remember them, though.'
[05:49] <+Biotech> Ditto
[05:49] <+itsblah> funny, that's what my own tulpa said
[05:49] <+itsblah> except for the one time I woke her up and she was having a nightmare
[05:50] <+__roflmao__> but can she enter your dreams? i lucid dream all the time, so this is going to be interesting.
[05:50] <&Rhyme> __roflmao__: no idea, and she says she hasn't tried
[05:50] <+oreo^> hi pimaster
[05:51] <+__roflmao__> ah. the only one who said tulpae can enter dreams was that anon in the /mlp/ thread, but I don't think anyone else said anything besides that.
[05:51] <+Biotech> Yukari, so how long did it take for you to talk?
[05:51] <+PiMaster> Hi
[05:51] <+Biotech> 'Sup pimaster
[05:51] <&Rhyme> Pronas what day are we on now
[05:51] <&Rhyme> subtract like two weeks
[05:51] <&Pronas> 72 days
[05:52] <&Rhyme> #tulpa so 58
[05:52] <&Rhyme> ok
[05:52] <+Sovereign_> fuck
[05:52] <+Sovereign_> i want my tulpa to talk
[05:52] <+Sovereign_> need to start talking to it more often
[05:52] <+__roflmao__> Rhyme, how long until you knew she was sentient (and how many hours until she knew she 'existed')?
[05:52] <+Sovereign_> keep forgetting
[05:53] <+__roflmao__> *earliest emotional response or whatever
[05:53] <+lulu> back
[05:53] <&Rhyme> __roflmao__: she started interacting with the wonderland at like 33-35, and i'd get random as fuck emotions 40-now
[05:53] <&Rhyme> most of the time they related to whatever the fuck was going on but were more noticable
[05:53] <+__roflmao__> you did personality first or second?
[05:53] <&Rhyme> i did personality a lot
[05:54] <+spoot> roflmao: about dreams
[05:54] <&Rhyme> did personality once, visualize, personality, personality, narrate, and here we are
[05:54] <+lulu> I'm going to go catch up on some anime before I can't get myself to leave
[05:54] <+lulu> later
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[05:54] <+spoot> tulpas are supposed to be able to enter them, but at early stages it supposed to be bad for the tulpa one way or another
[05:55] <+__roflmao__> i tend to think about personality all the time, but most of the time when i tulpaforce i tend to visualize/etc, i kind of blame the music for this: it's hard to conjure up emotions when listening to the wrong type of music
[05:55] <&Rhyme> __roflmao__: i tend to listen to ambience/to destroy a city/etc
[05:55] <&Rhyme> neutral, calming shit
[05:55] <&Rhyme> also fuck isotones.
[05:55] <+Biotech> Rhyme, how did you not control her actions in the wonderland?
[05:56] <+spoot> look up ambient music
[05:56] <+spoot> like Helios
[05:56] <+Sovereign_> maybe if i listen to im@s, i can make miki easier
[05:56] <+__roflmao__> I was listening to some meditation music for this and it makes me too calm, to the point where actually feeling any strong emotions is just hard
[05:57] <&Rhyme> Biotech: she was kinda like a frozen model in gmod, i guess. she wouldn't move unless i was trying to do gestures and shit, which was the only time i'd impose moving/anything
[05:57] <&Rhyme> and then she started moving on her own!
[05:57] <+Biotech> damn, that'd be trippu
[05:57] <+Biotech> trippy
[05:59] <+__roflmao__> <Rhyme> did personality once, visualize, personality, personality, narrate, and here we are <-- didn't do the other senses yet?
[05:59] <&Rhyme> that totally didn't tie in with visualize
[05:59] <&Rhyme> whoops
[05:59] <+__roflmao__> o
[05:59] <&Rhyme> should've said, sorry
[05:59] <+Sovereign_> what exctly did you do for building the personality?
[05:59] <&Rhyme> for the record she still changes appearance
[05:59] <&Rhyme> Sovereign_: wat
[06:00] <+Sovereign_> how did you influence/make her personality?
[06:00] <+Biotech> Yukari, what do you even do to pass the time?
[06:00] <+__roflmao__> Dane said something about apperance getting more cemented after imposing, to the point where a tulpa might not want to be imposed because of this limitation. Always found that part a bit strange myself though.
[06:00] <&Rhyme> [09:51:32 pm] (Rhyme) 'consider doing some simple, short traits that are specific (this is what charles did for the latter part of personality): 'kind, sarcastic, light-hearted, laid-back, knows when to take things seriously, evaluates situations from different perspectives' and so on'
[06:01] <+Sovereign_> ok, sounds good
[06:02] <&Rhyme> Biotech: 'i like to read. i don't have much to read, though. aside from that i either sleep or walk around the wonderland.'
[06:03] <+Biotech> Yukari, sounds pretty dull, what is the wonderland like?
[06:04] <+__roflmao__> Yukari: 1. How much of your personality do you think is innate (as long as you remember it) and how much is it a conscious choice (made from reviewing memories)? 2. Dreams, when and how often? Can you dream while Rhyme is awake? Are they lucid or mostly normal?
[06:05] <&Rhyme> Biotech: 'using a comparison charles does: the ending of majoras mask (inside the moon). large field, tree, so on'
[06:05] <&Pronas> how horrifying
[06:07] <+Biotech> sounds odd
[06:10] <+oreo^> im feeling very sad today
[06:10] <+oreo^> cheer me up guys
[06:10] <&Pronas> oreo^
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[06:10] <+oreo^> maybe it's because i'm drunk
[06:10] <&Rhyme> __roflmao__: 'i'd like to say it's all my conscious choice because i could change it if i so prefer, but saying it's from memories would be silly because charles hasn't let me access those yet.' 2. 'i only remember 3 or 4, they're pretty spaced out. i think so. they're mostly normal..'
[06:10] <&Pronas> no matter how hard life throw us down
[06:10] <&Pronas> remember this
[06:10] <&Pronas> we always die in the end
[06:10] <&Pronas> :3~
[06:10] <+oreo^> !!!!
[06:10] <+oreo^> I almost forgot!!
[06:11] <+oreo^> i feel a lot better now pronas
[06:11] <%DoWhat> Rhyme: just got here, you talking with your tulpa yet?
[06:11] <+oreo^> not being sarcastic
[06:11] <+oreo^> ^^^ i wasn't being sarcastic there either
[06:11] <&Rhyme> DoWhat: yes sir, it's 'interview rhyme and yukari' hour
[06:12] <+__roflmao__> Yukari: what I mean by conscious choice is that, during the personality stage Rhyme selected some traits for you, maybe some of those stuck with you as long as you remember it, maybe those traits are great, but that doesn't mean you've choen them, unless you just thought they were neat and accepted them. I'm basically curious how much the personality stage actually influenced the final personality of a tulpa.
[06:13] <%DoWhat> oh wait did I just walk in on something? sweet. I've missed the past couple of weeks or so, so I'll just observe
[06:13] <+Biotech> Oreo^ you're a pretty neat guy
[06:13] <+oreo^> thank you biotech
[06:13] <+oreo^> you're actually the 2nd person to tell me that today
[06:14] <+oreo^> I dont know what's going on
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[06:15] <+Biotech> See? it must be true
[06:15] <+PiMaster> Lol
[06:15] <&Rhyme> __roflmao__: 'i'd guess the very first part would be most influential. charles tried to do personality after i became sentient and some of it i changed, most i agreed with though. i don't even remember what he tried to give me at the start, so i obviously couldn't have changed it... right?'
[06:16] <+Shiri-tan> >charles
[06:16] <+Shiri-tan> heh
[06:16] <&Rhyme> die in a fire
[06:16] <&Rhyme> die in a fire
[06:16] <&Rhyme> die in a fire
[06:16] <&Pronas> CHARLES
[06:16] <+oreo^> you're not being saracastic are you biotech
[06:16] <&Pronas> X AVIER
[06:16] <+Shiri-tan> >Ch
[06:16] <+Shiri-tan> >Ar
[06:16] <+Shiri-tan> >Les
[06:16] <+Biotech> No, I am not
[06:16] <+Biotech> I'm never really sarcastic
[06:16] <+oreo^> ah
[06:16] <+oreo^> then thanks
[06:16] <&Rhyme> okay
[06:17] <&Rhyme> any other questions or can i play a game of LoL
[06:17] <+Biotech> Not a problem
[06:17] <+Shiri-tan> Not a prob Charles
[06:17] <+Shiri-tan> go play LoL
[06:17] <+__roflmao__> Yukari: cool, so you became sentient sometime after the second time he did personality? Rhyme: how long were the initial personality session(s)?
[06:17] <+Biotech> Yukari and Rhyme, have fun playing LoL
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[06:19] <@Xen0m0rpH> Rhyme, I hear from a reliable source that your tulpa is "alive" now.
[06:19] <&Rhyme> oh my god people
[06:19] <&Rhyme> she talked on here a week ago
[06:19] <+Shiri-tan> Did not
[06:19] <&Rhyme> yeah she did
[06:19] <&Pronas> yeah
[06:19] <@Xen0m0rpH> I wasn't here when it happened and no one mentioned it
[06:19] <&Rhyme> PiMaster got her to not talk for like 4-5 days
[06:20] <&Pronas> she got butt devastated because PiMaster is a bitch
[06:20] <@Xen0m0rpH> how?
[06:20] <+PiMaster> Huh?
[06:20] <&Pronas> yeah
[06:20] <&Pronas> you
[06:20] <&Pronas> "master" of pies
[06:20] <&Pronas> more like master of LIES
[06:20] <+PiMaster> OH YEAH
[06:20] <+PiMaster> She hates me for some reason
[06:20] <&Rhyme> i can find logs
[06:20] <&Rhyme> :|
[06:20] <+PiMaster> I have logs
[06:20] <&Rhyme> so do i
[06:20] <&Rhyme> YOU AREN'T SPECIAL
[06:20] <+Biotech> Butt devastated lol
[06:21] <+PiMaster> I AM THE SPESHULEST
[06:21] <+Shiri-tan> This chat is autistic =.=
[06:22] <+Biotech> Welcome to the internet
[06:22] <&Pronas> >says chat is autistic
[06:22] <+PiMaster> Lol
[06:22] <&Pronas> >nick means ass in nipponese
[06:22] <&Pronas> oh boy
[06:22] <&Rhyme> __roflmao__: 'i became sentient a tiny bit after visualization, so i guess so. maybe in the middle of personality 2.. i don't really know when he started so we'll go with that' / the very first personality session was spanned over 2 hours and wasnt very specific
[06:23] <&Pronas> what does yukarin of rhyme seeing her naked boday
[06:23] <@Xen0m0rpH> LOL
[06:24] <@Xen0m0rpH> :(
[06:24] <&Rhyme> 'i don't mind, really. he saw me nude during visualization, so it's too late to worry about it!'
[06:24] <@Xen0m0rpH> LOL
[06:25] <+PiMaster> Lawl
[06:25] <@Xen0m0rpH> Rhyme, Does she have any advice on how to work on a tulpa
[06:25] <@Xen0m0rpH> ?
[06:25] <@Xen0m0rpH> Or what she found to help you and her specifically?
[06:26] <&Pronas> has she thanked you yet for not giving her the dreaded pubic hair?
[06:26] <+__roflmao__> that's actually a good idea. Yukari: what would you want to see more (or changed) into how people make tulpae? Anything annoyed you during the process? (I'm not going to comment on the naked bit because that's required, unless you want to be made of clothes, literally)
[06:26] <&Pronas> cuz thats a feat of the gods
[06:27] <+Sovereign_> Can your tulpa change clothing at will?
[06:27] <+Shiri-tan> Gods
[06:27] <+Shiri-tan> wat
[06:27] <&Rhyme> Xen0m0rpH, __roflmao__: 'i'd really like to see less ponies.'
[06:27] <&Rhyme> not gonna lie i lol'd
[06:28] <&Rhyme> Sovereign_: yes
[06:28] <&Pronas> ES
[06:28] <&Pronas> YES
[06:28] <+Sovereign_> neat
[06:28] <&Pronas> LESS PONIES
[06:28] <&Pronas> 4 LYFE
[06:28] <+PiMaster> Lol
[06:28] <+Princess_Luna_> I WILL PONY YOUR PONY PONY
[06:28] <+Sovereign_> I'm going to smoke up and work on a complete new visualization tonight
[06:28] <+Biotech> Yukari, anything else?
[06:29] <+Biotech> Whatcha gonna visualize?
[06:29] <+__roflmao__> haha, mine will have a 2D female apperance, not a pony. that said, it kind of makes me wonder about people making tulpae with really weird appearances.
[06:29] <+PiMaster> Someone's making kyubbey
[06:29] <+Sovereign_> i'm going to visualize mikimiki's glorious nude form
[06:30] <+__roflmao__> you mean q2 and Tane (i only half-joked about qb tulpa, but i guess he's serious!)
[06:30] <+Sovereign_> and then visualize up some nice green-themed clothing
[06:30] <+Biotech> Hahahahahahaha
[06:30] <+Biotech> Nice
[06:30] <&Rhyme> ghgkfdh yukari can't figure out how to say this
[06:31] <&Pronas> this what
[06:31] <&Pronas> these FEELINGS?
[06:32] <+Sovereign_> i was thinking of a visualizing her wearing a green sweater, so i get delicious sweater-puppies
[06:32] <+Shiri-tan> what're sweater puppies?
[06:32] <&Pronas> u gon stick your dick in that son
[06:32] <@Xen0m0rpH> Rhyme, What, does she not know english?
[06:32] <&Pronas> that aint safe
[06:32] <&Pronas> Shiri-tan is so naive
[06:32] <+Sovereign_> boobies in sweaters
[06:32] <+Sovereign_> they look awesome
[06:32] <+Shiri-tan> Why not just say boobs then?
[06:32] <&Pronas> especially with no bra right
[06:33] <&Pronas> because fuck bras
[06:33] <+Sovereign_> yep
[06:33] <+__roflmao__> Yukari: of things one can't say, is your touch sensation uniform throughout the entire body or does it differ in some way? I'm trying to determine how "realistic" touch sensations "feel" from the inside for a tulpa. It doesn't help that my own body model in dreams feel rather unusual and generic ;/
[06:33] <@Xen0m0rpH> Pronas, You say this as if from a personal experience...?
[06:33] <&Pronas> this what
[06:33] <+Sovereign_> also, i like to exercise my vocab. "boobs" is too simple
[06:33] <&Pronas> breasts
[06:33] <&Pronas> bosom
[06:33] <&Pronas> chest
[06:33] <&Pronas> mammaries
[06:34] <+Sovereign_> bags of snad
[06:34] <+Sovereign_> sand
[06:34] <@Xen0m0rpH> Funn bags
[06:34] <&Rhyme> 'only two things come to mind for improving tulpa creation: don't be afraid/scared if your tulpa changes in a negative way. two, breasts don't gainax. at all. three, dear god, please give tulpae something to do in the wonderland/abyss of your mind/whatever you're doing.'
[06:34] <&Rhyme> >two things
[06:34] <&Rhyme> >thinks of another
[06:34] <&Rhyme> DAMMIT YUKARI.
[06:34] <&Pronas> WHAT
[06:34] <&Pronas> BREASTS DONT GAINAX?
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[06:34] <&Pronas> but
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[06:34] <+Nickhere> Ladies.
[06:34] <@Xen0m0rpH> BREASTS DON'T GAINAX
[06:34] <&Pronas> i gave mine books
[06:34] <@Xen0m0rpH> WHAT
[06:34] <+Biotech> I gave mine flowers
[06:35] <+Sovereign_> gonna have to think of a new wonderland too, shit
[06:35] <+Nickhere> Ladies. ;0
[06:35] <&Pronas> endless piles of books
[06:35] <+Biotech> An endless field of flowers
[06:35] <+Biotech> ahahahahahha
[06:35] <&Pronas> and a house
[06:35] <+Biotech> MWUAHAHAHAH
[06:35] <&Pronas> and tea
[06:35] <+Biotech> HAHAHAHA
[06:35] <&Pronas> and cake
[06:35] <+Biotech> NOTHING TO DO
[06:35] <+__roflmao__> Yukari: have you tried reading books from Rhyme's memories, I'd figure that'd be pretty fun. Oh wait, he hasn't given you access yet?
[06:35] <+Biotech> BUT FLOWERS
[06:35] <+Biotech> HAHAHAHAH
[06:35] <+PiMaster> Holy fuck you guys talk a lot
[06:35] <&Rhyme> __roflmao__: 'i only have access to like... books, books. not memory-books.'
[06:35] <+Shiri-tan> seriously
[06:35] <&Pronas> PiMaster wants to gag us with his gigantic dick
[06:35] <+Nickhere> Rhyme has a tulpa? :O
[06:35] <+Sovereign_> i'm going to give miki an ipod or something to keep her occupied
[06:35] <+PiMaster> I do
[06:35] <&Rhyme> Nickhere: no, go away
[06:36] <+Nickhere> Congrats on the success? :3
[06:36] <&Rhyme> seriously people
[06:36] <&Rhyme> she talked about a week ago
[06:36] <&Pronas> no
[06:36] <&Pronas> she didnt
[06:36] <&Pronas> ANWAYS
[06:36] <&Pronas> FUCK THIS SHIT
[06:36] <&Pronas> I'M GOING TO SLEEP
[06:36] <+spoot> NO
[06:36] <&Pronas> AND NONE OF YOU MOTHERFUCKER
[06:36] <+spoot> WAIT
[06:36] <&Pronas> WILL STOP ME
[06:36] <&Pronas> NO
[06:36] <+spoot> PRONAS
[06:36] <&Pronas> FUCK YOU
[06:36] <&Pronas> FUCK
[06:36] <&Pronas> YOU
[06:36] <+spoot> I LOVE YOU
[06:36] <+spoot> DON'T LEAVE ME
[06:36] <&Pronas> AND YOUR WAIT SHIT
[06:36] <+Nickhere> ...
[06:36] <@Xen0m0rpH> Rhyme, Does she have any advice on how to make a tulpa respond better?
[06:36] <+spoot> hah
[06:37] <+Nickhere> Why the hell am I here.
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[06:37] <+spoot> hahahah
[06:37] <&Rhyme> Xen0m0rpH: 'patience works well.'
[06:37] <+Sovereign_> ask her how much time and effort on average are needed for good results
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[06:38] <@Xen0m0rpH> Rhyme, But..
[06:38] <@Xen0m0rpH> Rhyme, Mine's quiet...
[06:38] <&Rhyme> Xen0m0rpH: 'quiet as in shy or quiet as in speaks softly?'
[06:39] <@Xen0m0rpH> Shy would be the best way to explain it I guess.
[06:39] <@Xen0m0rpH> I've only plainly heard her once
[06:39] <@Xen0m0rpH> And it was only one word "Yes"
[06:39] <@Xen0m0rpH> Everything else is more like...emotional responses.
[06:39] <@Xen0m0rpH> And she doesn't talk to me of her own accord often it seems..
[06:41] <&Rhyme> Sovereign_: 'time isn't an indication of how well you're doing. it would be better to take longer and make sure you have everything defined as opposed to following what i/charles/anyone tells you. when a step feels complete, you can move on. and if at any point it feels lacking, you can either elaborate on it or assume your mind will fill in the blanks for you.'
[06:41] <+Sovereign_> alrighty
[06:42] <&Rhyme> 'that being said, i don't want people doing only the base and assuming their mind will do smell, feel, and everything else..'
[06:42] <&Rhyme> afk lol
[06:42] <@Xen0m0rpH> Rhyme, Yukarin: But what if everything besides her physical appearance and feel of her texture and all that is the only thing specific you have in mind?
[06:42] <@Xen0m0rpH> I mean
[06:42] <@Xen0m0rpH> I typed that wrong
[06:42] <&Rhyme> where did that n come from
[06:43] <@Xen0m0rpH> Like, what if the only thing you know for sure you want is how they look
[06:43] <&Rhyme> oh rihgt, pronas
[06:43] <&Rhyme> oh well.
[06:43] <+__roflmao__> Yukari: that feeling question I asked early is unanswerable?
[06:44] <@Xen0m0rpH> :\
[06:44] <@Xen0m0rpH> Guess I'm off to talk with Maralyn some more...
[06:44] <&Rhyme> Xen0m0rpH: 'it depends. if you have an assumption on how the tulpa might feel (a dog might feel... well, like any other dog), you can make a general assumption, smell, so on. that's not to say your tulpa won't change anything, however..'
[06:44] <&Rhyme> __roflmao__: what question
[06:45] <+__roflmao__> <__roflmao__> Yukari: of things one can't say, is your touch sensation uniform throughout the entire body or does it differ in some way? I'm trying to determine how "realistic" touch sensations "feel" from the inside for a tulpa. It doesn't help that my own body model in dreams feel rather unusual and generic ;/
[06:45] <+__roflmao__> what i'm trying to get at here is that, for a human sensory experience, for example how the back of your hand and how your palm feels are different sensations
[06:45] <+Shiri-tan> Roflmao is the only one asking questions
[06:45] <+__roflmao__> qualitatively different
[06:45] <+Shiri-tan> so my screen is full of roflmao and rhyme talk
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[06:45] <+Shiri-tan> shitsux
[06:45] <+__roflmao__> but in dreams they're kind of not as different for me
[06:46] <+__roflmao__> Shiri-tan, /ignore if you want?
[06:46] <&Rhyme> so what does yukari feel when i touch her?
[06:46] <&Rhyme> or am i taking that retardedly wrong
[06:46] <+__roflmao__> yes, but a bit beyond that, sort of like the feeling in different places can be different, for example, your hand feels different from your shoulder and different from your lips
[06:47] <+__roflmao__> sort of like different places have different "resolutions"
[06:47] <&Rhyme> __roflmao__: so what does yukari feel when i touch her in different places or what does she feel when i touch her with the back of my hand/palm/etc
[06:48] <+__roflmao__> something like that
[06:48] <&Rhyme> there's an or in there
[06:48] <&Rhyme> which one
[06:48] <&Rhyme> ;_;
[06:49] <+__roflmao__> 1. does she feel when you touch her? 2. does she sense things differently depending on where you touch her? normal humans sense things differently due to how the nervous system is formed, but a tulpa will have a "virtual" body that you made for her, so i'm wondering about the level of detail and such differences
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[06:50] <@MQQSE> Your name is annoying.
[06:50] <+Princess_Luna_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Regalecus_glesne_juvenile.png
[06:50] <+Shiri-tan> It's annoying to type out too even with the tab deal
[06:51] <+__roflmao__> MQQSE: I've been using this nick on rizon since 2006 and I don't really feel like using my other nick here.
[06:51] <&Rhyme> 1. 'yes, i feel everything as a normal person would. as far as how it feels in different parts of my body, it's a bit awkard. i can tell it's different, but sometimes i feel like it's the wrong feel, if that makes sense.
[06:51] <&Rhyme> >i feel like it's the wrong feel
[06:51] <&Rhyme> them feels
[06:51] <@MQQSE> THEM FEELS
[06:51] <+__roflmao__> hah, quite interesting, I guess they must be derived from how Rhyme expects stuff to feel
[06:53] <&Rhyme> possibly
[06:53] <&Rhyme> OKAY FUCKHEADS
[06:53] <&Rhyme> i'm playing lol and none of you can stop me
[06:53] <+__roflmao__> have fun
[06:53] <@MQQSE> ...alright.
[06:54] <+Shiri-tan> lol...
[06:55] <&Rhyme> ps. yukari says good night
[06:56] <@MQQSE> G'night Yukari =O
[06:57] <+__roflmao__> night