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@Quite Quiet: ~workshop new disjunction
@Disjunction: :)
@Disjunction: we'll be building with Articuno today
+Blaziken1337: well if you count
@Disjunction: and I'll be cohosting this workshop with good friend Blast Chance
+Blaziken1337: !dt kingler
+Blaziken1337: then yeah 6th
+Rapture's Finest: yay!
%Blast Chance: hello
+Dentricos: hype hype
+Blaziken1337: do you even want to count that is the question
@Disjunction: throughout the course of the workshop I'm going to be taking modchat on and off
@Disjunction: so we can control discussion
@Disjunction: we'll open it up to the masses
@Pokedots: D: tyrant
@Disjunction: so we can get some discussion on what set to use for Articuno
 TeamTestingFTW: offensive sub roost is my favourite set
@Disjunction: I like Sub Roost
 TeamTestingFTW: with lefties
@Disjunction: personally :)
 Xrn476: Sub/Roost/Hurricane/Freeze-Dry imo
+Rapture's Finest: roost + 3 attacks imo
 Adaire: I remember
@Pokedots: sub roost seems like the funnest/easiest set to build around
 Adaire: when I could talk during workshop
 Adaire: ;-;
@Pokedots: I like 3 attacks
%Blast Chance: yea the set should either be sub
+Blaziken1337: ;-;
%Blast Chance: or 3 atks
@Pokedots: agility is mean
 Based Sexy Pants: R.I.P. Adaire.
@Realistic Waters: specs cuno
@Disjunction: idk what three attacks
+Blaziken1337: free +Adaire
 jariibo: Sub roost freeze dry hurricane life orb
@Disjunction: we would even run
@Pokedots: Adaire D:
@Quite Quiet: 3 attacks roost pls
 Based Sexy Pants: I like Sub Articuno.
@Pokedots: hp ground
@Pokedots: Disj
@marilli: oh workshop is live now
@Quite Quiet: much better than anything else
 Adaire: I really like
@Disjunction: what's HP Ground even hit nowadays
 Adaire: sub/roost cuno
@Realistic Waters: steels
 TeamTestingFTW: can we strawpoll 3 attacks or sub roost?
@Disjunction: Klinklang
@Pokedots: stel types
@Disjunction: maybe
 Based Sexy Pants: Skuntank.
@Disjunction: but there's no other relevant steels
%Blast Chance: nah wouldn't the third attack
%Blast Chance: be ice beam?
@Quite Quiet: mawile
@Quite Quiet: :(
@Pokedots: :(
+Dentricos: I like Roost, life orb, freeze dry, hurricane, hidden power/subsi=titute
 CasedVictory: freeze dry
 Adaire: I like ice beam over hp ground personally
@Disjunction: bro Hurricane shits on maw as is lol
 CasedVictory: seems mandatory
+Blaziken1337: mawile probably gets like 2hkoed by hurricane
 Dundies: sub roost is nice
 TeamTestingFTW: I prefer lefties over life orb
%Blast Chance: freeze dry and cane are mandatory yeah
@Disjunction: ya I think we can agree Freeze-Dry, Hurricane, and Roost
 CasedVictory: You probably shouldn't be risking Hurricane vs. a Mawile anyways
@Disjunction: and required
%Blast Chance: and roost
 Dundies: you can also pp stall its checks
+Blaziken1337: so sub or ice beam
+Blaziken1337: basically?
 Dundies: with pressure and such
 Adaire: Or hp ground
@Sir Kay: dundies o/
 Dundies: or hidden power
@Pokedots: o/
 Adaire: But I would say Sub
 Dundies: kay bae :]
 TeamTestingFTW: sub imo
 Adaire: we could make another strawpoll xd
@Disjunction: ok so it looks like there shouldn't be any opposition to Sub Roost, right?
 CasedVictory: U-Turn if real
@Silver Aurum: eh
+Dentricos: 252 SpA Life Orb Articuno Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Mawile: 152-179 (50.1 - 59%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
@Quite Quiet: 248/64*
@Silver Aurum: Sub is fine I guess
+Blaziken1337: so are we doing
+Blaziken1337: life orb or lefties
@Pokedots: I've been running special investment too on maw
+Dentricos: well sub or hp fighting for aurorus/pilo/probo
@Pokedots: lately
 TeamTestingFTW: lefties
@Pokedots: lo is better imo
 TeamTestingFTW: because lo + sub
 TeamTestingFTW: is
 TeamTestingFTW: well
 Stoned M&M: hp fight/ground are p useless on cuno
 CasedVictory: LO Sub makes sense if you have recovery
@Silver Aurum: If we are using sub we should go lefties imo
%Blast Chance: no i think life orb is necessary
+Dentricos: not in my experience using it ;}
@Disjunction: yea I like LO
+Blaziken1337: probo is irrelevant and pilo takes more from hurricane
 TeamTestingFTW: seems kinda counter productive, also takes away a good chunk of bulk
 Based Sexy Pants: I agree with Silver.
%Blast Chance: cuno is really really weak
 Adaire: LO is better than lefties
 TeamTestingFTW: so I think lefties is the better option
@Quite Quiet: I really don't like a non-boosted freeze-dry
 Adaire: That  is why
+Blaziken1337: !dt articuno
 Adaire: You run roost
@Pokedots: ^Quite Quiet
@Disjunction: LO is reqired so Freeze-Dry doesn't hit like a bitch
 CasedVictory: You also need Timid on Cuno
 ToshioOkazaki: LO is necesary for crucial KOs.
+Blaziken1337: 95 special attack
 CasedVictory: So it's weak
@Silver Aurum: I mean it just gets worn down so fasr
+Dentricos: life orb so it can 2HKO mawile
@Silver Aurum: fast*
 Adaire: but
 Adaire: you are so weak
@Disjunction: ~workshop add SubRoost Articuno
 TeamTestingFTW: the players can change
 TeamTestingFTW: between lefties and lo in the end
 TeamTestingFTW: if they want anyways
@Pokedots: BB-8-NU
@Pokedots: is so smart
@Pokedots: @.@
+Dentricos: 252 SpA Life Orb Articuno Hidden Power Fighting vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Klinklang: 159-187 (55.9 - 65.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 Adaire: Not as smart as Pokedots imo
 petyer: hi im looking for metaphysical, has anyone seen him?
+Blaziken1337: maybe we could run like idk nevermelt ice but that sounds meh
@Pokedots: y Adaire
@Disjunction: http://hastebin.com/uqoletapuz.md
+Dentricos: 252 SpA Life Orb Articuno Hurricane vs. 92 HP / 0 SpD Klinklang: 108-127 (38 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
@Disjunction: this is the set
@Pokedots: I can actually win a 1v1 game
 Adaire: petyer, he should be on in a while
@Pokedots: D:
@Disjunction: so from here where do you guys want to go?
+Blaziken1337: well I mean
@Disjunction: we could tackle hazard control now or later
+Dentricos: I can argue this set is rekt by klank
@Pokedots: t-spikes support is nice
@Disjunction: or focus on offensive partners
@Pokedots: we could go hazard control rn
%Blast Chance: we should decide the playstyle first
@Disjunction: we can easily cover kk in teambuilder
+Dentricos: so we def need heavy anti klank support
+Rapture's Finest: hazard control imo
+Dentricos: ^^^^
@Quite Quiet: pick a playstyle then get a partner for it
+Blaziken1337: so what hazard control cores well with cuno
+NotNova: Okay back from NU open games
@Quite Quiet: hazard control is easy to fit rn anyway
+NotNova: What state are we in rn?
%Blast Chance: we have lo subroost cuno
+Dentricos: Nova we picked the set
+Blaziken1337: I guess claydol? idk
+Rapture's Finest: I think we cant go wrong with balance
+NotNova: Which is?
@Pokedots: nu open ;-;
@Pokedots: sub roost
+Dentricos: http://hastebin.com/uqoletapuz.md
@Pokedots: yeah probably bulky offense
@Disjunction: why not just an offensive balance team
@Pokedots: is best
@Disjunction: it's the most consistent play style right now
@Pokedots: ^
+Blaziken1337: sure
+Dentricos: maybe magnet pull probo to trap seed/klink
@Disjunction: steels aren't relevant enough
+Dentricos: even mawile if u dont want to worry about accuracy
 Silver Danger: So
 TeamTestingFTW: maybe shiftry?
@Disjunction: where does everyone want to go from here
+Dentricos: !ds steel type, nu
 CasedVictory: Probopass is a shitty way of beating Klink anyways
 CasedVictory: : (
@Disjunction: ya^
 Silver Danger: Klinklang
 ToshioOkazaki: Offensive Claydol is very good with Cuno.
@Disjunction: probo is pretty shit I don't want to use it
+Dentricos: but it does n_n
@Quite Quiet: just deal with klinklang by being good
@Disjunction: I'm not opposed to offensive claydol
 ToshioOkazaki: Grass knot, shadow ball, earth power and spin w/colbut is great.
@Quite Quiet: rather than go out of your way to trap it with probo or smthn
 jariibo: I would go for klinklang for a win con with shift gear
+Rapture's Finest: yeaa jst play around it
 CasedVictory: Deal with Klinklang by having a pretty decent counter then a check behind it
%Blast Chance: ya i don't think probo is ideal
 CasedVictory: Like you do with most threats
+NotNova: Klinklang is not that much of a problem lol
%Blast Chance: if we want an easy to use team
+NotNova: If you have answers
+NotNova: it's fine
+NotNova: what's the set pls :c
 TeamTestingFTW: claydol beats rocks
 TeamTestingFTW: that threaten cuno
+Dentricos: maybe we add a lanturn then n_n
+Dentricos: or even a gurdurr
@Disjunction: NotNova: http://hastebin.com/uqoletapuz.md
 TeamTestingFTW: if we're earth poewr
+Rapture's Finest: claydol would be a great partner
+Blaziken1337: !weak claydol
+NotNova: Good set boys :)
+Blaziken1337: !weak articuno
+Dentricos: wat about plup
+Blaziken1337: pretty decent synergy there too
@Disjunction: is nobody opposed to Claydol?
+NotNova: Claydol is a good choice
 TeamTestingFTW: plup is boring
+NotNova: for synergy
+Dentricos: !dt prinplup
@Disjunction: otherwise I'm adding it
+NotNova: I completely agree
@Silver Aurum: I ran Claydol + Cuno a while back
+Dentricos: k claydo, it is
+Blaziken1337: yeah I agree too
@Silver Aurum: it's good
%Blast Chance: claydol sounds fine
 CasedVictory: Colbur
+Rapture's Finest: spin also lets us stack them hazards, yum
@Disjunction: ~workshop add Offensive Claydol
 Silver Danger: prinplup is straight up bulk
 TeamTestingFTW: are we going to have rocks on claydol?
+Rapture's Finest: nope
+Dentricos: Plup would have been gr8 to control hazards AND check klink
@Pokedots: ok so do we want a fire check or something like that now
@Quite Quiet: I don't like a super-passive prinplup when cuno is offensive
+Dentricos: + it enjoys cunos switching into things like plume
 ToshioOkazaki: Rocks are easy enough to fit on without overburdening Doll IMO
+Blaziken1337: meh
@Pokedots: I think it'd be pretty nice
 jariibo: Disjunction i would go for lanturn so you have a volt switcher for articuno
+Blaziken1337: I don't really like rocks claydol
+Blaziken1337: unless I have
@Pokedots: if we put t-spikes support
+Blaziken1337: no other easy option
@Pokedots: same blaze
 iAlwaysLose201: Dis :D Sir Kay :D
@Disjunction: http://hastebin.com/maviyitisa.md
 TeamTestingFTW: ok since we agreed on claydol I think you can modchat again ;-;
@Disjunction: Are we ok
+Dentricos: plup also checks fire types :/
+Blaziken1337: the added offensive utility and less pressure on it to pull both
@Sir Kay: hey
@Disjunction: with this set for Claydol
@Pokedots: y I think so
@Silver Aurum: yeah that's fine
+Dentricos: yeh that set is cool
 jariibo: I would go for signal beam over shadow ball
 iAlwaysLose201: Based Loser here :D
@Pokedots: timid is nice but all sawk's are jolly by now so :/
@Silver Aurum: I was going to say
+Dentricos: helps to hit malamar
@Disjunction: no I like Shadow Ball
 ToshioOkazaki: Shadowball is great
+Blaziken1337: you miss out on xatu though
 GTXProto: I'm trying that set
 ToshioOkazaki: For rotom
@Disjunction: to punish spinblockers
+NotNova: Shadow Ball is probably the best
@Disjunction: if we're weak to anything specific later we can tweak sets
@Silver Aurum: ^
+Blaziken1337: ^
@Pokedots: ^
+Dentricos: ^
%Blast Chance: v
@Pokedots: ^
@Disjunction: so I'm not concerned with claydol's coverage
@Silver Aurum: -
+Rapture's Finest: >
+Dentricos: <
@Silver Aurum: yeah it's fine for now
%Blast Chance: yeah let's tweak stuff later
+Dentricos: We are mature af
@Quite Quiet: shadow ball on claydol helps it do it's job better anyway
@Disjunction: ~workshop team
+Rapture's Finest: yes
@Disjunction: team so far^
@Disjunction: for anyone joining us
+Blaziken1337: so
+Blaziken1337: fire resist
+Megazard: use a grumpig
@Silver Aurum: I mean like
+Megazard: I heard that's good
+Dentricos: lanturn
@Pokedots: I think t-spikes support
@Silver Aurum: ugh lanturn
@Pokedots: might be a good direction to take
@Disjunction: I'm more concerned about cuno's offensive partners right now
@Pokedots: rn
+Dentricos: is a minor check to fire types
%Blast Chance: ~workshop team
+Dentricos: but also hits klink
%Blast Chance: brawlfest^
+Dentricos: so there is that
+Rapture's Finest: lanturn also gives us a water resist which is rly good
+Dentricos: ^
+Rapture's Finest: plus an electric immunity
@Disjunction: we already have an electric immune
@Silver Aurum: not like we have claydol
+Rapture's Finest: well another one
+Allstar124: Hi nu
@Silver Aurum: or anything
@Disjunction: idk I'm not sold on Lanturn
@Silver Aurum: Greetings Allstar
+Dentricos: yeh but claydol is bad vs every electric type
@Silver Aurum: Neither am I
+Allstar124: workshop started already?
+Blaziken1337: y
@Pokedots: y
+Dentricos: yes
 TeamTestingFTW: can't we just add special lefties poliwrath to check klinklang and scald immunity?
+Blaziken1337: ~workshop team
 ToshioOzaki: LO Shifty is a decent offensive partner for Cuno although you're stacking the ice weakness with Doll.
+Blaziken1337: we have this so far
@Disjunction: ok yea let's get some suggestions rolling
 iAlwaysLose201: Combusken ?
@Pokedots: garbo
 brawlfest: subroost cuno is weak as shit
 TeamTestingFTW: special lefties wrath :]
@Pokedots: for t-spikes
 iAlwaysLose201: Phys
 brawlfest: you need hazards lol
@Pokedots: maybe weezing or roselia even
+Dentricos: poliwrath sounds cool
 brawlfest: tspikes or spikes idm
 GreenKnight326: um why was mod chat on?
+Blaziken1337: oh busken sounds cool
+Blaziken1337: but that does leave us
 DrapionSwing: helooooo
@Silver Aurum: Modchat is going to be off and on throughout the building process GreenKnight326
 jariibo: Honestly i would go for carracosta defensive
@Disjunction: yea I like the idea of spikes of some kind here
+Blaziken1337: a bit water weak
 Xrn476: GreenKnight326 workshop is happening
 GreenKnight326: oh...
@Pokedots: GreenKnight it's just to organize chat
 GreenKnight326: ok
+Blaziken1337: hazards is definitely a good idea
 GreenKnight326: thanks!
 TeamTestingFTW: sadly
 TeamTestingFTW: no spikers resist fire
 brawlfest: honestly
%Blast Chance: yeah spikes would be really nice
 TeamTestingFTW: but I guess we could go with one of them and add a fire resist
 TeamTestingFTW: later on
+Dentricos: I like the idea of garb
@Silver Aurum: who needs a fire resist when you have spikes bunnelby
 brawlfest: we dont need a fire resist rn
 iAlwaysLose201: What Mons do we have ?
@Silver Aurum: amirite
+Blaziken1337: we get a fire resist later anyways
+Allstar124: no silver
%Blast Chance: y
@Silver Aurum: just claydol and articuno
 iAlwaysLose201: So far ?
+Allstar124: no
+Blaziken1337: ~workshop team
 brawlfest: tbh
+Dentricos: it can get that damage on klink
@Pokedots: I think garb, roselia, or ferroseed could work well
 brawlfest: Cuno + Rose have pretty good synergy
@Disjunction: ya let's just slap garb on lol
 brawlfest: and offensive rose w tspikes
 iAlwaysLose201: Thank BB-8
 brawlfest: is fucking cash rn
+Allstar124: and a fire resist
@Disjunction: it'll give us our secondary fighting check
 TeamTestingFTW: there's something called magmortar and other thing called pyroar, those things don't let you have a team without a fire resist lol
+Dentricos: garb imo not a fan of seed rn XD
@Pokedots: offensive rose is indeed
 brawlfest: its pretty much a better tangela lol
+Blaziken1337: garb sounds best
+Allstar124: or magmortar just bops you
@Pokedots: cash
 brawlfest: plus it gives us a status absorber
@Silver Aurum: huh Seed is
 iAlwaysLose201: Thanks *
@Silver Aurum: really goood right now
+Megazard: can confirm cuno+rose works a tier below
 DrapionSwing: Why are so many people here today 0_o
 brawlfest: yeah thanks
 ToshioOzaki: Offensive Ros>garb>defensive rose>Ferro for this team
 brawlfest: Cuno + Rose is fine
 TeamTestingFTW: I like rose
+Dentricos: Guys can we agree on this team being bulky offense at this point?
@Disjunction: ok out of what everyone is saying
%Blast Chance: drapionswing we're having a teambuilding workshop
@Disjunction: I like Garb / Offensive Rose / Ferroseed the most
@Pokedots: same
%Blast Chance: y
+Dentricos: I like garb
+Rapture's Finest: offensive rose sounds fun
+Allstar124: I like offensive rose
@Pokedots: offensive rose sounds like the coolest option
+Blaziken1337: idk how much I'm feeling ferro for this
@Disjunction: I'm personally partial to Garb
@Pokedots: it's really fun
@Pokedots: can confirm
@Pokedots: garb is more reliable, though
@Silver Aurum: hmm
+Dentricos: But at this point we really need a fire resist
@Disjunction: but I've used offensive roselia before and it's pretty consistent
+Blaziken1337: garb strikes be as the best choice since we're already struggling with fire
+Dentricos: and we need stealth rock
+Blaziken1337: *me
+Allstar124: yup next step a fire resist
+Allstar124: bulky don maybe?
+Dentricos: maybe add a regirock
@Silver Aurum: This tier has no real reliable fire resists
@Pokedots: !data grumpig
@Silver Aurum: outside of like lanturn sort of and hariyama
+Dentricos: Problem with don is what fire type aint bopping it with grass
@Pokedots: specs is cash
@Silver Aurum: and Grumpig I guess
@Disjunction: we'll slap on offensive Roselia for now
+Dentricos: but grumpig aint got no rocks
@Pokedots: D:
+Allstar124: does the team have rocks rn?
@Disjunction: ~workshop add Offensive Spikes Roselia
+Blaziken1337: n
@Silver Aurum: no allstar
+Megazard: why would you run specs on something with great support movepool and coverage
+Megazard: e.e
+Dentricos: no I recomend regirock
@Pokedots: we can fit sr towards the end
@Disjunction: I like adding my rocker close to the end
+Dentricos: adds rocks and a fire resist
@Disjunction: to patch defensive holes
+Megazard: kabutops?
@Pokedots: stuff like rhydon or regirock fit pretty naturally into the team, too
+Blaziken1337: well since we're looking for a fire resist anyways
@Disjunction: ok
 TeamTestingFTW: costa?
+Dentricos: I add it early on if it fits :/
@Disjunction: I REALLY
 brawlfest: Guys for a fire resist
 DrapionSwing: LOL
@Disjunction: want offensive partners
 brawlfest: Chople Regirock
@Disjunction: for cuno
 brawlfest: is probably the best way to go
 TeamTestingFTW: offensive costa with rocks
 TeamTestingFTW: :]
 iAlwaysLose201: Hariyama AV
 brawlfest: hp grass is a thing buddy
%Blast Chance: yeah agree with dis
@Pokedots: I've always wanted to use
@Disjunction: I'd rather focus on offensive partners than Rocker or whatever
 brawlfest: thats not close to a fire check lol
 DrapionSwing: Blaziken1337 can you explain what a teambuilding workshop is? :3
+Dentricos: Sawk.
@Pokedots: offensive sr costa
@Silver Aurum: Gurdurr?
 TeamTestingFTW: costa chews hp grass
+Dentricos: Or gurdurr
@Silver Aurum: or sawk I guess
@Quite Quiet: sd rocks rhydon
@Disjunction: Gurdurr honestly sounds great lol
@Quite Quiet: is coom
@Quite Quiet: cool*
 brawlfest: sd rocks rhydon is solid
@Disjunction: I've been thinking that since the start
+Dentricos: me and silver on the same page
+Blaziken1337: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/neverused-teambuilding-workshop-voting-phase-next-workshop-september-19th.3546715/
 DrapionSwing: ty Blaziken1337 :*
+Blaziken1337: yeah gurdurr
 brawlfest: chople regi is just a counter to any fire type though
+Dentricos: I recomended gurdurr earlier and it fits again XD
 brawlfest: and plus yellow magic support
 brawlfest: is always A+
@Pokedots: chope regi looks cool
%Blast Chance: ~workshop team
@Disjunction: I'd rather just focus
 brawlfest: BB
 brawlfest: its Offensive TSpikes
@Disjunction: on offensive guys rn lol.
@Pokedots: we need speed
@Pokedots: D:
 brawlfest: Wtf disjunction
 Jariibo: are we going HO?
 brawlfest: Chople REgi is offensive
 brawlfest: lol
 brawlfest: It's the single best Glue SR user on offensive teams rn
@Silver Aurum: It's like bulky offense Jariibo
@Pokedots: Jariibo more bulky balance
%Blast Chance: the **single best**
@Pokedots: *offense
 brawlfest: lol
@Pokedots: woops
 brawlfest: SINGLE BEST
@Disjunction: Gurdurr + speed control + regi
+Dentricos: yeh we could def do a regirock rn
@Disjunction: ?
@Pokedots: **single best**
+Allstar124: We need speed control
+Dentricos: yes disj
@Silver Aurum: Yeah that could work disjunction
 iAlwaysLose201: BB is the Greatest .
+Allstar124: or speed in general
 brawlfest: /me single best
@tennis: im the greatest
+Dentricos: cant be fast and walled by steels
@Pokedots: D:
@Disjunction: ok so nobody is opposed to Gurdurr
+Dentricos: nope
@Silver Aurum: yay
+Allstar124: nope
@Pokedots: it fits fine y
@Disjunction: ~workshop add Bulk Up Gurdurr
+Blaziken1337: it gives klink check, physical bulk, priority
+Blaziken1337: all around seems nice
+Allstar124: and add regi?
+Megazard: I like the water resist being offensive rose
+Blaziken1337: regi resists both
+Blaziken1337: flying and fire
@Disjunction: ok then Regi
@Disjunction: sounds cool
+Blaziken1337: yeah
+Blaziken1337: plus speed control yellow magic
@Disjunction: but I don't want chople
+Dentricos: I am thinkin cheops, or floatzel for speed control
+Blaziken1337: since our team is slow
+Dentricos: over like tauros
@Disjunction: I much prefer Lefties
+Allstar124: and something that doesnt gets destroyed by water imo
+Blaziken1337: fast water type would be good to finish imo
+Blaziken1337: (floatzel)
+Dentricos: yeh rose aint gonna be perfect vs rott
+Dentricos: floatzel
@Disjunction: oh ya brawlfest brings up a good point
+Dentricos: is gr8
@Disjunction: we have nothing for sawk
@Silver Aurum: Correct
+Blaziken1337: so
+Allstar124: or for samu tbh
+Blaziken1337: replace rose with garb
+Blaziken1337: and change claydol spread to outspeed adamant band
+Blaziken1337: perhaps
+Dentricos: I say we start over n_n
+Dentricos: jk
@Silver Aurum: -
+Allstar124: lol
@Pokedots: -
+Blaziken1337: ~~.~~_.
%Blast Chance:
@Disjunction: ok the way I see it is either
 Silver Danger: USE MESPIRIT
@Disjunction: Garb > Rose
 DrapionSwing: Good defog shiftry set? :3
 Steakburgers: chatroom.com
 brawlfest: guys
 iAlwaysLose201: Timid Claydol
 TeamTestingFTW: if running floatzel
 brawlfest: chople regi
 TeamTestingFTW: baton pass is a cool option
+Dentricos: def disj
 brawlfest: baits sawk and yellow magics it
 Silver Danger: mespirit
 Silver Danger: pls
 brawlfest: lol why are we so worried
@Disjunction: or something for Knock and then Scarf Rotom
@Disjunction: in last slot
 brawlfest: plus we'll use a colbur ghost later anyways
 brawlfest: to spinblock
 brawlfest: so its fine
+Allstar124: Silver Danger it doesnt work on this team
+Dentricos: oooo mismag
 brawlfest: Just do
 brawlfest: Colbur Ghost + Chople Regirock
 Silver Danger: Allstar124 lol i just dsaid something when i read sawk destroys us
 brawlfest: so that Sawk and Mag
 brawlfest: are not problems for us
 brawlfest: cause otherwise they fucking 6-0 our asses
@Disjunction: then we're slow as fuck
 brawlfest: yellow magic
 iAlwaysLose201: What's the team so far ?
@Disjunction: ~workshop team
 brawlfest: TWave Mismag is the best mismag anyways
+Allstar124: and I would not use mesprit as a sawk counter
+Allstar124: since it can only switch once
 TeamTestingFTW: guys
 TeamTestingFTW: there's no sawk counter
 TeamTestingFTW: lol
%Blast Chance: san bawk
+Blaziken1337: ~~granbull~~
 Adaire: I mean
@Disjunction: TWave Mismag sounds neat hehe
 Adaire: Granbull
 Adaire: Does a good job of that
 TeamTestingFTW: granbull doesn't fit ;-;
%Blast Chance: love twave mismag
 brawlfest: granbull is shit
 brawlfest: yeah
 Adaire: no u
 brawlfest: just do dual status mismag
@Disjunction: TWave Wisp Hex Taunt
@Disjunction: Mismag
 brawlfest: + chople regi
+Allstar124: Blast Chance n
 w2gMk.exe: what up NU
+Allstar124: dont
 brawlfest: and lets make another team
+Dentricos: granbull is not shit, but it doesnt fit
 iAlwaysLose201: Offensive Pelliper ?
 brawlfest: we're wasting so much time rn
+Dentricos: heheh
%Blast Chance: it's good allstar -_-
 iAlwaysLose201: LO
@Silver Aurum: hex as your only stab is meh but
 GlueBlue: when does nu open start
 Adaire: what does the team look like so far?
+Blaziken1337: ~workshop team
+Dentricos: ~team
%Blast Chance: nu open already started
 Adaire: It has already begun GlueBlue
 iAlwaysLose201: It started GB
 w2gMk.exe: hex works well with support from garbodor
@Silver Aurum: It has already started GlueBlue
+Allstar124: ~workshop team
 GlueBlue: lol damn
+Allstar124: ah sniped
 Adaire: offensive spikes roselia?
 GlueBlue: im behing
 GlueBlue: behind*
 brawlfest: adaire its offensive tspikes
 TeamTestingFTW: didn't we add floatzel?
 MARCU5theBAW5: yo
+Allstar124: Hey MARCU5theBAW5
@Silver Aurum: no we never agreed on that TeamTestingFTW :P
@Silver Aurum: Greetings Marcu5
 iAlwaysLose201: Marc , sup
 Xrn476: Hello MARCU5
 TeamTestingFTW: oh I thought I saw that somewhere lol
 Adaire: btw
 Adaire: that team
 Adaire: loses to other articuno D:
 w2gMk.exe: is this new tournament script
+Dentricos: or any flying type
+Dentricos: like cheops
 w2gMk.exe: available for the ones we make
 iAlwaysLose201: Adaire :D w2 :D
+Rapture's Finest: we have a gurdurr dw
 w2gMk.exe: or is it just for official crap
+Allstar124: we have regi tho
+Blaziken1337: can we just add regirock to the thing
+Dentricos: oh yeh add regi
 brawlfest: Yeah seriously just use regi lol
+Blaziken1337: ^
@Disjunction: o ya sorry
@Disjunction: I'm looking at the team
 brawlfest: And seriously chople like wtf
%shaneghoul: what even is the team rn
@Disjunction: thinking on what beats it
+Blaziken1337: ~workshop team
 Testing21: I'm new to NU,can  someone help me test my team
 Steakburgers: i built a better team
 Steakburgers: arti vileplume hari probo, prin
 Adaire: ~workshop team
+Allstar124: ~workshop team
 brawlfest: Disjunction ill tell you what beats it
@Disjunction: ~workshop add TWave Mismagius
 Adaire: I cri evritim
 Steakburgers: beatsthe workshop team easy
 brawlfest: offensive fires, fightings, flyings, and ices
@Disjunction: ~workshop add Leftovers Regirock
+Allstar124: stop sniping Blaziken1337
 brawlfest: Chople Regi covers 3 of those and twaves one more
+Allstar124: ;-;
%Blast Chance: ha gottem
 brawlfest: nigga what the fuck is leftovers
@Pokedots: the team is
 brawlfest: we mgiht as well use rhydon
 brawlfest: holy fuck
@Pokedots: really slow
+Blaziken1337: ~workshop team
@Pokedots: ;-;
 brawlfest: you guys are actually shit
 Adaire: ngl
 Based Sexy Pants: Cool.
@Disjunction: idk why we'd need chople tho
@Silver Aurum: chill brawlfest
 Adaire: that team look bad
 iAlwaysLose201: Mystical fire on Mismag for other Articuno .
@Disjunction: when we have Mismag and Claydol lol
 brawlfest: MECAUSE
 brawlfest: MAG FUCKING RUNS US
 Jariibo: Disjunction this team loses to malamar
 TeamTestingFTW: lol
 w2gMk.exe: I used mystical fire on mismagius to combat cm users
 iAlwaysLose201: And grass and steel types
@Disjunction: we have a Mismagius
 brawlfest: LOL
 brawlfest: thats not a counter
 brawlfest: to magmortar + sawk cores
 brawlfest: we need both
 w2gMk.exe: cm mismagius with mystical fire keeps other cm users at bay
@Disjunction: no I mean Mismag beats Malamar lol
%Blast Chance: calm down dude -_-
@Pokedots: -_-
 iAlwaysLose201: you need MF on it for coverage .
+Dentricos: fuck spikes lets add a vileplume
 brawlfest: nah im salty af if we dont use chople we might as well use magcargo tbh
@Silver Aurum: Why would you not just shadow ball CM psychics w2
 w2gMk.exe: what coverage
 lolbro: what is the team
 lolbro: ?
 Jariibo: That is check
+Dentricos: ~workshop team
+Allstar124: ~workshop team
 w2gMk.exe: silvar, audino isn't psychic
@Silver Aurum: vs calm mind psychics*
 Adaire: Allstar124
 Adaire: you
 Adaire: are
 Adaire: bad
+Blaziken1337: slowstar124
+Allstar124: I quit these snipers
 iAlwaysLose201: For steel , grass bug and all that w2
+Dentricos: Im also kinda scard of mega dino
@Pokedots: we're so slow honestly
 w2gMk.exe: shadow ball is neutral to steel
+Dentricos: even with rose
@Pokedots: I'd go garbo>rose
+Blaziken1337: shadow ball hits all of those for like almost the same damage
 lolbro: why are we using subroost?
@Pokedots: and then fast mon over gurdurr
 brawlfest: pokedots we have 2 wave users and mach punch
 brawlfest: we're fine
 ToshioOzaki: It was just the starting point lol
+Dentricos: garb over rose I love that
 TeamTestingFTW: because it's the best set lolbro
 ToshioOzaki: nah
 Adaire: I don't see the point of offensive rose really
 ToshioOzaki: its the easiest
 w2gMk.exe: mystical fire that is se is about the same bp as unresisted stab shadow ball if my math is correct
 Adaire: might as well run offensive garbodor
 Jariibo: isn't mushy a threat?
 brawlfest: nah
 w2gMk.exe: mushy isn't much of a threat anymore with all the dark types we suddenly have
@Pokedots: Adaire offensive rose is really good
+Allstar124: mushy is always a threat
 w2gMk.exe: but it is something to prepare for
@Pokedots: imo
@Disjunction: we have Taunt Mismag to beat Barrier CM Mush
 iAlwaysLose201: Yeah , w2 you're right .
@Silver Aurum: It is still a threat
@Silver Aurum: it just cant run the barrier set
 w2gMk.exe: mistical fire does however do a bit to ferroseed
%Blast Chance: ya i think we're fine against mush
+Dentricos: disj can we switch roselia with garb?
 iAlwaysLose201: Yup
%Blast Chance: tspikes + missy
+Allstar124: we are not using misical fire
+Allstar124: its bad
%Blast Chance: should deal with it fine
+Allstar124: plain bad
 robbiedobbie: would someone battle me
 Adaire: also btw
 w2gMk.exe: I used it for my own reasons
 Adaire: why do we have
 Adaire: two t-wave users
 w2gMk.exe: I don't suggest everyone to spam it
 Adaire: and toxic spikes
 ToshioOzaki: redundancy
@Pokedots: robbiedobbie you can try ladder
 ToshioOzaki: lol
@Silver Aurum: /me shrugs
+Blaziken1337: ..xD
 w2gMk.exe: Have a nice day NU
 lolbro: why does rhydon do like 60 to everything
 Adaire: like I get we hace hex
 w2gMk.exe: i gotta do stuffs
 iAlwaysLose201: Later w2 .
@Pokedots: oh bye w2 n_n
 Adaire: But that seems kinda bad
 GlueBlue: oh im dqed lmao
+Dentricos: does rock polish 3 attacks rhydon sweep us?
@Pokedots: we have gurdurr
 ToshioOzaki: honestly what happened to that combusken suggestion
%Blast Chance: ~workshop team
 Adaire: one gurdurr gets worn down
+Dentricos: oh yeh
 iAlwaysLose201: BB-8 , what's the team ?
@Pokedots: and claydol for non-megahorn
 lolbro: Rp 3 attacks
 lolbro: has megahorn
 TeamTestingFTW: simple
@Pokedots: y I was referring to
 TeamTestingFTW: don't let gurdurr get weakened
+Blaziken1337: we can probably change mismag a little then since t-spikes
@Pokedots: sd variants
 lolbro: we have to let it not get in for free
 Adaire: but
+Blaziken1337: dual status + t-spikes
+Blaziken1337: seems a bit overkill
 Adaire: the team relies so much on gurdurr
 TeamTestingFTW: having a good team doesn't matter if you play like garbage
@Disjunction: /announce http://hastebin.com/uhoveguwiz.md This is what we got
 Adaire: so it is bound
 Adaire: to get weakened
 CasedVictory: Why TWave Mismagius
@Pokedots: I don't think it relies on it too much
%Blast Chance: fires
@Disjunction: because we're slow as fuck
@Pokedots: outside of klinklang/rhydon
@Pokedots: Adaire
 CasedVictory: What does TWave Mismag do better than
 CasedVictory: Scarf Rotom
 Adaire: Yeah klinklang and rhydon
@Quite Quiet: use rock tomb regirock imo :^)
 CasedVictory: In terms of being slow
 Adaire: are so rare these days
@Disjunction: Taunts
 lolbro: or twave
 lolbro: rotom
@Disjunction: so we shit on Malamar
 ToshioOzaki: this team seems v. counter intuitive
 lolbro: with hex
 CasedVictory: ok dont use
 CasedVictory: twave rotom
@Pokedots: Adaire that's not what I meant
 brawlfest: oh guys quick note for roselia
 brawlfest: Rest + Leaf Storm
 Steakburgers: malamar isnt even super common lol
 brawlfest: is more reliable than synthesis + Giga
 TeamTestingFTW: if you're worried about malamar just run signal beam claydol
 brawlfest: :]
+HJAD: hey guys
+HJAD: whats going on?
+Dentricos: A wild **samurott** appeared!
@Quite Quiet: this team still looks to be trying to do a whole bunch of stuff at once
@Pokedots: hi HJAD
@Quite Quiet: without really doing anything
 Adaire: The workshop
+Blaziken1337: the one thing I'm really worried about
+Blaziken1337: is magmortar
 Adaire: isn't working rn
@Pokedots: workshop
+Dentricos: hjad teambuilding workshop
 CasedVictory: That's what happens when you forget to build around Articuno
+Allstar124: HJAD n_n
 CasedVictory: Then you decide to build with it
 lolbro: idk why
 lolbro: we'd build around cuno
 Steakburgers: tyring to counter malamar isn't even that big of a deal
 lolbro: when i just put an rmt out
 lolbro: about it
 Steakburgers: its not being used that mmuch
 ToshioOzaki: LOL
 iAlwaysLose201: HJAD , sup
 brawlfest: seriously if we are all so salty about mag
 CasedVictory: Implying your RMT is a big deal
 Adaire: lolbro ;-;
 brawlfest: just run chople
 brawlfest: lol
 iAlwaysLose201: QQ sup ?
 ToshioOzaki: idk why we didnt go chople
+Blaziken1337: ^
%shaneghoul: we're pretty ebelt rotom-fan weak
+Blaziken1337: with the amount that
+Dentricos: solution to make our team work: ban malamar and samurott
@Disjunction: idk I think the team does a good job of supporting cuno
 brawlfest: nah ebelt rotom fan
+Blaziken1337: magmortar steamrolls this team otherwise
 brawlfest: does like negative damage to regi
 lolbro: ^
 TeamTestingFTW: we're weak to a lot of stuff ;-;
%shaneghoul: it burns it
+HJAD: this team gets steam rolled
@Pokedots: ~workshop team
+HJAD: by spike stack + spinblocker
%shaneghoul: then proceeds to take it down
 lolbro: why does
 lolbro: samurott
 lolbro: win
@Pokedots: samu D:
%Blast Chance: man the team looks so weak
 brawlfest: it kinda does lmao
 TeamTestingFTW: uh just turn modchat on, this got so confusing
+Dentricos: I've legit
+Allstar124: why sub roost articuno?
 lolbro: idk
+Dentricos: been saying that]
+Dentricos: lol
 lolbro: it's inferior to offensive
+Blaziken1337: I think we kinda just need to like
 CasedVictory: Where did
 CasedVictory: Offensive Spikes Roselia come in
+Blaziken1337: take a couple mons out and work from there
 CasedVictory: If you're trying to make a team easy to use
 CasedVictory: lmoa
@Disjunction: ya the more I'm looking at the squad
%Blast Chance: blame brawlfest
@Disjunction: the more I hate offensive rose
+Blaziken1337: ^
@Disjunction: it's a pretty weak link
 CasedVictory: offensive rose is silly unless you want like
+Dentricos: Use garb
 lolbro: and the more you should h8 subroost
 TeamTestingFTW: so just use garb
 CasedVictory: Extrasensory to lure shit but like
 TeamTestingFTW: offensive
+HJAD: use
+HJAD: offensive garb
 CasedVictory: Offensive Rose
 CasedVictory: In a Skuntank meta
@Quite Quiet: I don't get rose /mismag :l
+HJAD: if you want to lure xatu
 CasedVictory: Is weird
 ToshioOzaki: Is this team meant to be easy for new people or are we throwing that out
@Disjunction: Mismag is a crucial Malamar check and Figthing immune
+HJAD: or maybe just
 TeamTestingFTW: but now we have garb
 lolbro: ^
 ToshioOzaki: Because the average player here won't be able to use this lmao
 TeamTestingFTW: to check fightings
+HJAD: make rose def
 CasedVictory: I dont think TWave Mismagius is a good Malamar check
%Blast Chance: i think we need to get rid of rose tho
 iAlwaysLose201: Lanturn switch for Roselia for support
 lolbro: we could even use weezing
@Quite Quiet: but mismagius is not a good malamar check
@Pokedots: it's not that complicated we should just make rose garb imo
 Steakburgers: why not use like
@Pokedots: for now
 CasedVictory: That's because it isn't
 CasedVictory: @ QQ
 Steakburgers: quagsire
 CasedVictory: ruins momentum
 lolbro: ^
+Blaziken1337: I still think dual status mismagius is redundant with t-spikes too
@Disjunction: ok ok
@Disjunction: valid concerns here
@tennis: im awesome
@tennis: :D
@Pokedots: :D
+Allstar124: lol
@Disjunction: I think we all agree
@Disjunction: on replacing Mismag and Rose
+Allstar124: mhm
+Blaziken1337: y
%Blast Chance: tennis is my most favoritest user on smogon.com
@Disjunction: ~workshop remove Offensive Spikes Roselia
@tennis: i love user: Blast Chance
@Disjunction: ~workshop remove TWave Mismagius
+Blaziken1337: ~workshop team
@Disjunction: ~workshop team
@tennis: you guys were gonna use t wave mismag?
@tennis: what kind of mexican workshop is this
+Allstar124: t-wave is balanced
@Disjunction: so big concern is that Samu does work
+Allstar124: and makes the game fun
+Blaziken1337: we really need a good water resist
+Allstar124: I mean the only thing that can really take samu's hit is lanturn
+Blaziken1337: well maybe we should use lanturn then
%Blast Chance: i was thinking poliwrath might work over gurdurr
@Pokedots: ^
+Blaziken1337: yeah that works too
@Disjunction: I prefer Gurdurr here, personally
+Rapture's Finest: man why is poliwrath so good
 GlueBlue: l
 lolbro: LOL
 Steakburgers: you kinda want something that can absorb status
 Adaire: Poliwrath over gurdurr
 momster40: Yay!
 Adaire: ffs
 ashaury: Poliwrath tbh
@Pokedots: I mean most of the things gurdurr takes on over poli
 Steakburgers: and use it to their advantage
 lolbro: i just pm'd disjunction that too
@Disjunction: but we're discussing Water resists now
 momster40: we can talk now =3
+Dentricos: lanturn
 lolbro: XD
@Pokedots: are handled by regirock
 iAlwaysLose201: Combusken over Poli and Gur
 Adaire: ^^^
 Adaire: damnit
@Pokedots: so I think it's fine
 Steakburgers: vileplume is best water resist
 lolbro: n
+Blaziken1337: so I guess poli or lanturn
 Adaire: I say we run poliwrath over gurdurr
 lolbro: it takes like
+Rapture's Finest: lol no
+Blaziken1337: which do you guys want more
 lolbro: 60 from horn
 lolbro: Poli
+Dentricos: I still want'
 TeamTestingFTW: what?
+Dentricos: lanturn
@Disjunction: ok we can go Poli > Gurdurr
@Disjunction: then
+Dentricos: reks samurott
@Disjunction: Garb
 TeamTestingFTW: poliwrath takes 0 from megahorn lmao
 Steakburgers: Thats not a good trade dis
 TeamTestingFTW: fighting resists bug
@Disjunction: then speed control
 lolbro: we could use resttalk poli
 Steakburgers: you guys are super weak to status
 ToshioOzaki: rest talk circle throw scald poli?
+Dentricos: and easily appreciates cuno/gurdurr
 lolbro: what does durr
 lolbro: do for turn
 CasedVictory: So how are you guys beating Malamar
 iAlwaysLose201: ~workshop team
+Dentricos: cradily
 GTXProto: HP bug
+Blaziken1337: I mean worst case scenario
+Blaziken1337: we can throw signal beam on claydol
+Allstar124: ~~taunt weezing~
%Blast Chance: ~workshop team
+Allstar124: dammit
 lolbro: i actually likr
 lolbro: taunt weezing
@Disjunction: we could swap something out on Claydol for Signal Beam
 Steakburgers: Why are we pretending malamar just jumped up to top usage
@Disjunction: if we go Poli + Garb + Speed control
 ToshioOzaki: i feel like claydols set is pretty damn important
@Disjunction: which is what I'm in favor of
+Dentricos: I say swap out psychic
 Salamencetopius: I'm just wondering why articuno isn't used more
 ToshioOzaki: shadow ball stops rotom from coming in for free
 lolbro: yes
+Blaziken1337: yeah probably psychic
 CasedVictory: Because Malamar is arguably one of the best sweepers in the tier
 lolbro: ^
 CasedVictory: Thanks to its ability to cause damage while attacking ?_?
 Steakburgers: thats not being used
 Adaire: so does that mean
 ToshioOzaki: idk why psychic was even on claydol tbh
 Steakburgers: have not seen it around
 Salamencetopius: Isn't artic neutral to fighting?
 Adaire: spinda is also one of the best sweepers in the tier?
 Steakburgers: at all
 CasedVictory: So do we not prep for anything outside of Sawk/Tauros/Archeops
+Rapture's Finest: lol
@Disjunction: Steak we're prepping for Malamar
 lolbro: ^
+Dentricos: cheops we have regi
 lolbro: sawk we have claydol
+Allstar124: tauros we have regi
 lolbro: 10/10
 Salamencetopius: we need to prep for granbull
 Steakburgers: Prepping for something you'll barely see is making teambuilding more difficult than it should be lol
 lolbro: granbull is garbage
@Disjunction: it's not difficult to prep for it
@Disjunction: when we just have to change on coverage move
@Disjunction: that isn't that relevant
 Salamencetopius: eh true
+Allstar124: colbur claydol would work imo
 Frogeggs: how long till tourney?
 lolbro: i mean
 lolbro: life orb hurri
+Blaziken1337: we already have colbur
 lolbro: kills
 Frogeggs: and Wassab everyone?
+Allstar124: Hey Frogeggs
+Blaziken1337: ~workshop team
@Disjunction: ~workshop remove Bulk Up Gurdurr
+Dentricos: ~workshop team
@Disjunction: ~workshop add Offensive Poliwrath
 ToshioOzaki: Claydol should really run Earth Power/GK/Spin with last slot being Shadow Ball or Signal
@Disjunction: ~workshop add Defensive Garbodor
 CasedVictory: i dont think GK is necessary
 ToshioOzaki: Depending on whether you wanna smack rotom switching in or be a bit more mala safe
+Blaziken1337: alright so
@Disjunction: it doesn't need GK
 TeamTestingFTW: is regirock really that needed?
+HJAD: nah
+HJAD: if u have epower
+HJAD: you dont need gknot
+Blaziken1337: regirock checks a ton of shit for us
+Allstar124: yes TeamTestingFTW
+Blaziken1337: while having yellow magic
@Disjunction: Earth Power, Shadow Ball, and Signal Beam
+HJAD: subroost cuno
@Disjunction: we need something to curb speed
 Dundies: woah
@Disjunction: in the last slot
+HJAD: can pp stall malamar
 Dundies: this workshop thing
+Blaziken1337: ~workshop team
+HJAD: if really needed
 Dundies: is cool af
+Allstar124: lol thanks Dundies
 Dundies: who made it
 CasedVictory: Not really hjad
 MilkshakeHero: hi nu
+Allstar124: Hey MilkshakeHero
 MilkshakeHero: i have a question
@Pokedots: I still like chorple more
@Pokedots: on regi
 ToshioOzaki: is offensive Poli what we went on?
 Salamencetopius: remember when sawk was balanced
 MilkshakeHero: is sawk a good pokemon to use
+Allstar124: yes
 MARCU5theBAW5: yes
+Dentricos: A wild rock polish 3 attacks torterra appeared
+Blaziken1337: chople sounds better
 Adaire: why have we not changed regi to chople
+Allstar124: very good
 Salamencetopius: and had poison jab
 TeamTestingFTW: ./ds speed>100, nu, pu, nfe
 Adaire: like everyone agrees
 MilkshakeHero: ok
 MilkshakeHero: thanks
 iAlwaysLose201: Scarf it .
 Adaire: that chople is better
 Steakburgers: is kadab good in the current meta
 MilkshakeHero: mwahaa
 lolbro: chople regi
+Dentricos: Toterra run!
 lolbro: is good
+HJAD: i think we need a spinblocker
 Adaire: it's alright I guess Steakburgers
 MilkshakeHero: i was building a nu team
+Allstar124: chople for what?
+HJAD: that also sets up
 lolbro: regi
 MilkshakeHero: :/ and i needed to know if sawk was good
@Pokedots: I mean worst case for terra
 ToshioOzaki: kadab has some issues but it's certainly not horrible steakburgers
+HJAD: so i think maybe np mismag?
 lolbro: ^
 lolbro: imho
@Pokedots: we can maybe change garb to t-spikes weezing
@Disjunction: I stopped paying attention for a minute
+Allstar124: MilkshakeHero its very good its a S rank mon for a reason
 FoxxyStyles: hey im unmuted finally
@Disjunction: why are we talking about tort
 FoxxyStyles: yay
 MilkshakeHero: s rank?
 MilkshakeHero: hi foxxxy
%Blast Chance: i usually don't like prioritizing spinblockers
@Pokedots: Dentricos noted that we get 6-0d
+Allstar124: in the viability ranks
@Pokedots: by rp terra
+Dentricos: ^
 lolbro: ^
 lolbro: and RP Don
 lolbro: Still
+Dentricos: well not as much don
 lolbro: hello
+Dentricos: now that we have poli
+Blaziken1337: so we just go weezing
+Allstar124: we have wrath and claydol for don
 lolbro: ~workshop team
@Pokedots: though tbh one of the main problems with rp terra
@Disjunction: we could go Weezing > Garb
@Disjunction: yes
+Dentricos: dual dance fears claydol
@Pokedots: is that it just kinda dies
@Pokedots: to recoil
+HJAD: ya
%Blast Chance: ~workshop team
+HJAD: weezing helps with that weakness
+HJAD: also
+HJAD: it checks malamar
@Disjunction: ~workshop remove Defensive Garbodor
+Allstar124: yeah
%Blast Chance: yea weezing sounds good
+HJAD: if we run taunt wisp
@Disjunction: ~workshop add TSpikes Weezing
+Dentricos: I love the idea of weezing
+Dentricos: !
+HJAD: so we dont need to run signal on claydol
@Disjunction: k good change
@Disjunction: now what do we do for speed
+Allstar124: weezing walls a lot of mons in this meta
@Pokedots: HJAD it's a bit hard to fit t-spikes and taunt
+Blaziken1337: ~workshop team
@Pokedots: but we have poli
+Dentricos: peed control time
@Quite Quiet: just add tauros
@Quite Quiet: easy speed ^^
+Dentricos: speed~
@Pokedots: so fire coverage isn't too imporant
+HJAD: lol.
@Disjunction: yea I wouldn't run taunt on this weezing
 iAlwaysLose201: Claydol set ?
+Allstar124: ~~put t-wave on everything that can learn it Disjunction~~
@Pokedots: ez pz
+Blaziken1337: a physicl attacker sounds good
+Blaziken1337: considering the only one we have
+Blaziken1337: is regirock
%Blast Chance: in the last slot id also really prefer something that hits hard
 ToshioOzaki: i think its EP/Shadow/Signal/Spin @ ialwayslose201
+HJAD: we get rekt by
+HJAD: jynx
@Pokedots: yeah def blast
@Disjunction: I'm honestly not opposed
@Disjunction: to Guts Swellow
 iAlwaysLose201: No need for sig Beam
+Dentricos: Time to add us a jumpluff
+HJAD: something that can
 CasedVictory: CG Jumpluff
+HJAD: take on sash jynx
@tennis: how do you deal with wisp hex rotom
+Allstar124: and by every cm pyshcic mon 2 HJAD
@tennis: .-.
+Dentricos: disj I dont want cuno + swellow
 CasedVictory: tennis thoughts on
@Pokedots: tennis we're trying
+HJAD: maybe a fast uturner
 CasedVictory: CG Jumpluff
@Pokedots: ;___;
 ToshioOzaki: Busken w/ LO hit hard enough?
 Salamencetopius: Swellow?
@tennis: that doesnt help with the rotom weakness
+Dentricos: since they get walled by similar things
+Allstar124: pursuit tauros
+Allstar124: for rotom
 Salamencetopius: hmm
+HJAD: pursuit tauros
@Pokedots: pursuit tauros is
@Pokedots: cool
+HJAD: seems nice
+Dentricos: oh r we weak to rotom?
+Dentricos: !dt raichu
 lolbro: no
+Dentricos: n_n
 lolbro: this mon
 CasedVictory: use
 lolbro: is weak
 CasedVictory: Pyroar
 CasedVictory: ( :
+HJAD: lol.
 Based Sexy Pants: Raichu is cool.
@Disjunction: raichu is shit sorry haha
@tennis: i love pyroar
@Pokedots: ( :
+HJAD: raichu is bad
+Dentricos: :{
 CasedVictory: Pyroar
 CasedVictory: Use
@Pokedots: at least suggest zebstrika
+HJAD: im not apposed to pyroar
@Pokedots: ;_;
+Blaziken1337: pyroar sounds good
 IndigoZX: >raichu is bad
@Disjunction: I like Pyroar
+HJAD: but it doesnt beat jynx
+HJAD: thats scurry
 Salamencetopius: Hmm
 lolbro: with rocks
 CasedVictory: it
+NotNova: guys
 lolbro: it does
 CasedVictory: outpaces
+NotNova: I know I haven't been active
 CasedVictory: and you have LK fodder
 Salamencetopius: How about
+Allstar124: av magmortrat
 Salamencetopius: Liepard
%Blast Chance: pyroar sounds cool
+NotNova: but jynx is like impossible to beat defensively lol
+Dentricos: Well actually I'm gonna be honest raichu aint shit rn at all
@Pokedots: allstar we really need speed
+Blaziken1337: ~~run specs sleep talk pyroar~~
+HJAD: we could run like
+HJAD: sleeptalk
+Dentricos: I've used it with a lot of success
 iAlwaysLose201: SD Combusken
@Disjunction: we have spdef regi to soft check jynx
+HJAD: sleeptalk specs yeah
 CasedVictory: you could run LO Taunt or Specs it
 CasedVictory: Really doesnt matter
 lolbro: what if
 lolbro: we run into
+Dentricos: + it adds to our speed tier AND hits theats we dont like
 snuggles n' fluff: you they tell you what color your names gonna be now
 lolbro: NP+3 Attacks
 lolbro: with sash
+Allstar124: ~workshop team
@Disjunction: thoughts on Flame Plate Sub Pyroar?
 lolbro: and i bops regi with fblast
+Allstar124: we lose to lilligant
+Blaziken1337: then pyroar + vacuum wave
@tennis: thoughts on chople pyroar for jynx
@tennis: xD
@Disjunction: that'd handle Jynx 1v1
+Blaziken1337: xD
@Disjunction: xD
%Blast Chance: xD
 lolbro: xD
 iAlwaysLose201: SD combuskennn
 Salamencetopius: what is this
+Dentricos: ebelt, knock off, focus blast, grass knot raichu
@Pokedots: between weezing and cuno
@Pokedots: I think we're fairly ok
+Dentricos: teambuiilding workshop sala
@Pokedots: w/ lilli
@Pokedots: ish
+Blaziken1337: ~~xD button when?~~
 lolbro: ^
+Dentricos: we r building a team together
 ToshioOzaki: honestly we're not gonna cover every threat lol
@Disjunction: ok I like Taunt
 lolbro: but we lose
@Disjunction: thinking about it
 iAlwaysLose201: Ferroseed annoys this team ..
 lolbro: to way too many
@Disjunction: let's just go LO Taunt
+Dentricos: actually I am not adamently suggesting raichu!
 CasedVictory: hey i made a contribution
 lolbro: *adamantly
+Allstar124: so pyroar?
+Blaziken1337: I think we can handle lilligant well enough
+Blaziken1337: between pyroar/weezing/articuno
 iAlwaysLose201: Combusken
+Dentricos: !dt adament
 snuggles n' fluff: raichu is not as good as modest agility pikachu
 iAlwaysLose201: SD Speed Boost
+Allstar124: lol
+Dentricos: :{
 snuggles n' fluff: or sub punch
%Blast Chance: ~workshop team
+Dentricos: fuk spelling
 Salamencetopius: huge weakness to ice
+Blaziken1337: so lo taunt pyroar
 CasedVictory: pyroar add helps give a 50/50 to Rotom
 MC Punjabi: sup NU whats poppin
 iAlwaysLose201: SD Conbusken !
+Blaziken1337: we have a regirock and an articuno
+Allstar124: Hey MC Punjabi
 CasedVictory: You could also run RestoChesto Regirock
 Salamencetopius: and steel
+Blaziken1337: ice isn't that terrifying
 CasedVictory: Or Chople
@marilli: ooh Quite Quiet nice command
 lolbro: SD Comusken is bad
 MC Punjabi: whens the workshop thing?
+Blaziken1337: we have a poliwrath and a weezing for steels
@Quite Quiet: there's 1 ice weakness, how is that weak to ice? :l
 lolbro: now
+Blaziken1337: again, I think we're fine
 MC Punjabi: now?
@Pokedots: I'd say pursuit tauros is still a nice option
 lolbro: yes
 iAlwaysLose201: It's not
 Salamencetopius: so a fire type that helps with rotom will help
 lolbro: it is live
+Allstar124: ~~yache berry claydol the jynx counter~~
 CasedVictory: pursuit tauros doesnt really
 lolbro: right now
@Pokedots: but pyroar sound better
@Pokedots: prob
 MC Punjabi: lolbro, what room?
 CasedVictory: beat wisp rotom
 ToshioOzaki: i thought everyone wanted chople regirock lol
 Salamencetopius: I was thinking
+Blaziken1337: and a pyroar for steels
 lolbro: this one
 Salamencetopius: what about
 MC Punjabi: lol k
 lolbro: can't you see
 Salamencetopius: heatmor
+Dentricos: fuk it pyroar
 lolbro: no
 lolbro: stop
 iAlwaysLose201: i use it now , I'm perfectly fine
 Salamencetopius: it has sucker punch
+Blaziken1337: no
+Blaziken1337: just np
+Blaziken1337: *no
 lolbro: but it gets put to sleep
 iAlwaysLose201: Conbusken is not bad
 lolbro: magmoratr
 Salamencetopius: rapidash?
@Disjunction: ok
@Disjunction: http://hastebin.com/xuhefixuxo.md
+Dentricos: pyroar time
+HJAD: next person to suggest heatmor gets a slap
@Disjunction: ?
@Quite Quiet: magmortar doesn't solve the speed problem
+HJAD: i cant take that mon
+Allstar124: lol ~~lets use hearmor~~
+Blaziken1337: ~workshop team
@Disjunction: the reason we're using Pyroar is speed
+Allstar124: heatmor*
+Blaziken1337: add pyroar
@Disjunction: not because it's a Fire-type
+Blaziken1337: to this
+Blaziken1337: imo
@Disjunction: ~workshop add LO Taunt Pyroar
@marilli: well its also because it's a fire type
@marilli: :^)
+HJAD: it can also lure
+HJAD: rock types
@Disjunction: I don't see many glaring issues with the current team
@Disjunction: I like it
+HJAD: if you want to use taunt wisp
+Dentricos: disj remember
@Quite Quiet: if you want to be real
+Blaziken1337: and then maybe chople regi? or do we need regirock to have some recovery to handle things more than handling magmortar better
+HJAD: aka stallbreaker pyroar
+Dentricos: replace psychic with signal
@Quite Quiet: safety goggles pyroar for lilligant
@Quite Quiet: :^)
+Allstar124: lol
+Dentricos: on claydol
+HJAD: also we have no settup sweeper
+Allstar124: cash
+HJAD: lel
%Blast Chance: nice non-wisp weezing
@marilli: how do we deal with mushy
@Disjunction: it's TSpikes D:
@marilli: :o
@Pokedots: D:
@Disjunction: Taunt Pyroar
%Blast Chance: idk i still think wisp is mandatory
+Blaziken1337: we could run
@Disjunction: the only musharnas nowadays are barrier cm
+HJAD: ya
+Blaziken1337: dark pulse pyroar to flinch it
+Blaziken1337: !
+HJAD: stallbreaker pyroar
+HJAD: is gud
@Disjunction: we can pp stall moonlights with cuno
@Disjunction: if need be
@Disjunction: ok pressure apparently only affects attacks
@Disjunction: my b
+Dentricos: or we ban mushy ez pz
@marilli: do we still need modchat
+Blaziken1337: ~workshop team
 lolbro: o
 lolbro: that works
 iAlwaysLose201: Ya sleepin' on SD Cmbusken
@Disjunction: hmm
+Blaziken1337: do we have anything major here
 lolbro: but SubCuno
+NotNova: [21:05:48] @Disjunction: the only musharnas nowadays are barrier cm
 lolbro: gets CM'd on
+NotNova: That's the bad set
+NotNova: :c
 MARCU5theBAW5: lol
+NotNova: The good set is Signal Beam
+NotNova: Colbur
 lolbro: ^
 iAlwaysLose201: I swept HJAD with it , sorry HJAD .
+Rapture's Finest: lol
 lolbro: and wisp weezing
+Dentricos: rip hjad]
+Blaziken1337: like we have t-spikes + pyroar for mushy I suppose
 lolbro: is a must
+HJAD: i get swept by
+HJAD: everything
+Blaziken1337: which is a bit shaky
@Disjunction: we can go wisp > pain split
+HJAD: just make sure you got a sweeper
 MC Punjabi: idk if taunt pyro is needed. I think WoW could be a nice surprise factor on pyroar
+Rapture's Finest: wow is common lol
 lolbro: ^
+Blaziken1337: wisp isn't surprising on pyroar
+Blaziken1337: xd
@Disjunction: I think Taunt is a must or we actually get swept by mush lol
+Rapture's Finest: its not surprising anyone
+Blaziken1337: that's standard
@Disjunction: plus it prevents rocks
+Allstar124: I wouldnt use wow and taunt on pyroar tbh
%Blast Chance: yeah use wisp over pain split
 lolbro: how
 MC Punjabi: lol fuck me sideways
 lolbro: by dying to EQ
 lolbro: love that rocks counter
+Blaziken1337: yeah I think pain split < wisp on weezing
@Disjunction: well I have to get moving
 TeamTestingFTW: ok I'm back, are we done?
@Disjunction: and I like the team
@Disjunction: so I say we call it here
 TeamTestingFTW: what's the team?
 lolbro: no
 MC Punjabi: wow over split imo
 CasedVictory: you dont need a late-game sweeper for the record
 lolbro: let someone else
 CasedVictory: to whoever mentioned that
+Allstar124: ~workshop team
@Disjunction: If you guys have any concerns about the team you should discuss it in the thread :)
 CasedVictory: you need a plan for every team
 Salamencetopius: seems like a good team
 lolbro: why do we still lose
 lolbro: to magmortar
 CasedVictory: I see offensi e psychics being slightly annoying if claydol gets worndown
 CasedVictory: mag has to hit two focus blasts if it wants to beat
 IndigoZX: because magmortar rocks your world
 CasedVictory: regirock
+HJAD: claydol loses
 Salamencetopius: bit of a weakness to water but eh
@Disjunction: /announce http://hastebin.com/uvahunihom.md This is the final result
+Blaziken1337: shouldn't we also still have signal beam over psychic on claydol since it's not taunt weezing
 iAlwaysLose201: Time to test it .
 Whiscash-mega: pls mind reader+ sheer cold is the only set for articuno
+HJAD: if to cm psychics
+Blaziken1337: yeah okay good
 iAlwaysLose201: I wanna battle it .
 MC Punjabi: nosolid magmortar swith in. But I guess there just isnt none
+Dentricos: /me claps!!!!!
 CasedVictory: CM Psychics are the biggest issue but
 CasedVictory: We have rocks
 CasedVictory: to pressure
 iAlwaysLose201: Dis ?
+Allstar124: MC Punjabi we have regirock
+Rapture's Finest: nice team, good work boys
 CasedVictory: 49% chance it breaks through
@Disjunction: I don't have time to test D:
 CasedVictory: I wouldn't overthink it
 MC Punjabi: Allstar124, doesnt focus 2hko?
@Disjunction: I'm gonna make the post and scoot