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  7. Channel ID: (('corpid', 98107700),)
  8. Channel Name: Corp
  9. Listener: Atarus Skjem
  10. Session started: 2016.10.24 12:33:23
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  13. [ 2016.10.24 12:33:23 ] EVE System > Channel MOTD: [ Alliance Voice Chat via Discord invite link ] [ Alliance Forum ]|> Valor has an office on a High Sec island at Station: Algasienan VI - M 4, 10mil isk reward for getting jump clone there. Use 'shortest' route from Tarta, pref. in a cloaked ship or interceptor if you travel alone.|> Citadel in final building stage! Forum Thread for possible location here. Mailing List is 'Valor Citadel Workshop'|> War Declaration active with Excidium. from Oct 17th 21:20. Thier KB. Fly Safe!|> POS in Bania destroyed on 24th - ty to those who came to defend.|> Scheduled fleets (when forming follow this) - Fleet Join Link:Location:
  14. [ 2016.10.24 14:37:49 ] Tegra Sengin > 07 fokes
  15. [ 2016.10.24 14:38:02 ] Atarus Skjem > o/
  16. [ 2016.10.24 14:41:15 ] Lyta Alexander > o/
  17. [ 2016.10.24 16:01:45 ] DamageDude > o/
  18. [ 2016.10.24 16:01:52 ] DamageDude > can finally fly t2 drones
  19. [ 2016.10.24 16:03:02 ] Lyta Alexander > cool
  20. [ 2016.10.24 16:03:30 ] DamageDude > my vexor only puts out 250 drone dps with hammerhead 2s :(
  21. [ 2016.10.24 16:03:50 ] DamageDude > and i have 2 drone damage amplifiers fitted
  22. [ 2016.10.24 16:04:07 ] DamageDude > i've read people put out much more like that, how do they do it? :O
  23. [ 2016.10.24 16:05:21 ] Atarus Skjem > do you have drone interfacing 5?
  24. [ 2016.10.24 16:05:45 ] Grayn Potato > 4
  25. [ 2016.10.24 16:05:50 ] Atarus Skjem > k
  26. [ 2016.10.24 16:06:01 ] Atarus Skjem > well that to 5 would be 10% more
  27. [ 2016.10.24 16:06:14 ] DamageDude > oh okay i have to check
  28. [ 2016.10.24 16:06:22 ] Atarus Skjem > plus 2% per level of gallente drone spec
  29. [ 2016.10.24 16:06:54 ] DamageDude > i have it on 3
  30. [ 2016.10.24 16:07:04 ] DamageDude > wew 4 days to lvl 4
  31. [ 2016.10.24 16:07:29 ] Atarus Skjem > but really with vexor it will be that they are using heavies
  32. [ 2016.10.24 16:07:46 ] DamageDude > okay:)
  33. [ 2016.10.24 16:07:51 ] DamageDude > are we still at war btw?
  34. [ 2016.10.24 16:08:02 ] Atarus Skjem > oh yes, its not going well
  35. [ 2016.10.24 16:08:14 ] Atarus Skjem > i am feelinga bit of a coward hiding on the island mining hehe
  36. [ 2016.10.24 16:08:15 ] DamageDude > i wasnt here for a week, what happened?
  37. [ 2016.10.24 16:08:34 ] DamageDude > what island?:D
  38. [ 2016.10.24 16:08:35 ] Lyta Alexander > Yep not been a good time lol
  39. [ 2016.10.24 16:08:45 ] Atarus Skjem > they killed pos and the guys who tried to defend it
  40. [ 2016.10.24 16:09:00 ] Atarus Skjem > plus they got an orca last night
  41. [ 2016.10.24 16:09:01 ] Lyta Alexander > im on the island now since this just happened. Was afk for like 30 seconds max Kill: Lyta Alexander (Drake Navy Issue)
  42. [ 2016.10.24 16:09:24 ] Atarus Skjem > island = area around Algasienan
  43. [ 2016.10.24 16:09:38 ] Atarus Skjem > war deccers tend not to go through lo sec if they can avoid it hehe
  44. [ 2016.10.24 16:09:59 ] DamageDude > oh shit
  45. [ 2016.10.24 16:10:16 ] DamageDude > yeah i just wondered didnt they get punished by concord in a 0.7 system?
  46. [ 2016.10.24 16:10:18 ] Lyta Alexander > war deccers dont usually 1. attack the POS 2. roam aorund the entire galaxy looking for you
  47. [ 2016.10.24 16:10:31 ] Atarus Skjem > they are mercs
  48. [ 2016.10.24 16:10:37 ] Lyta Alexander > we are at war, concord doesnt interfere
  49. [ 2016.10.24 16:10:41 ] Atarus Skjem > i can only imagine someone annoyed someone with money hehe
  50. [ 2016.10.24 16:10:50 ] Lyta Alexander > all the corps that dec us are mercs, pretty much
  51. [ 2016.10.24 16:10:59 ] Atarus Skjem > yeah
  52. [ 2016.10.24 16:11:17 ] Lyta Alexander > this lot of have been terrible tho
  53. [ 2016.10.24 16:11:25 ] Grayn Potato > yea
  54. [ 2016.10.24 16:11:34 ] Grayn Potato > any idea why they are after us
  55. [ 2016.10.24 16:12:02 ] Lyta Alexander > POS down 850m, guns all gone Tiberius orca down, the loss this war is very high 3/4b minimum
  56. [ 2016.10.24 16:12:12 ] Lyta Alexander > I asked them they wouldnt say
  57. [ 2016.10.24 16:12:19 ] Atarus Skjem > War: Excidium. vs. Order of Allied Knights
  58. [ 2016.10.24 16:12:28 ] Atarus Skjem > 4.6 according to that
  59. [ 2016.10.24 16:12:32 ] Atarus Skjem > we have 0 :(
  60. [ 2016.10.24 16:13:17 ] Grayn Potato > they honestly just out class us they just know more about pvp
  61. [ 2016.10.24 16:13:26 ] Lyta Alexander > they are experience PvPers
  62. [ 2016.10.24 16:13:34 ] Atarus Skjem > they always catch us alone
  63. [ 2016.10.24 16:13:35 ] Lyta Alexander > in good ships they know well
  64. [ 2016.10.24 16:13:42 ] Grayn Potato > yea i seen that killboard
  65. [ 2016.10.24 16:13:43 ] Atarus Skjem > except the pos fight i guess
  66. [ 2016.10.24 16:14:07 ] Lyta Alexander > even when not alone we cant take them, we had 3v2 for the POS defence initially and we got nothing, tanks too strong
  67. [ 2016.10.24 16:14:09 ] Atarus Skjem > to kill them we need one of them against 2 or 3 of us, not the other way around hehe
  68. [ 2016.10.24 16:14:35 ] Atarus Skjem > meh
  69. [ 2016.10.24 16:15:40 ] Lyta Alexander > this is the funny inbalance with this game, it allows people to basically greif players who dont have much (or any) inclination to pvp
  70. [ 2016.10.24 16:15:52 ] Atarus Skjem > and they reinforced the customs office
  71. [ 2016.10.24 16:16:04 ] Atarus Skjem > when will that come out?
  72. [ 2016.10.24 16:16:11 ] Lyta Alexander > be a while
  73. [ 2016.10.24 16:16:16 ] Lyta Alexander > 24hr or something
  74. [ 2016.10.24 16:16:34 ] Atarus Skjem > 2312 tomorrow
  75. [ 2016.10.24 16:16:48 ] Lyta Alexander > timer is 22:00-00:00
  76. [ 2016.10.24 16:16:53 ] Atarus Skjem > well at least it is not in the middle of the night hehe
  77. [ 2016.10.24 16:17:52 ] Lyta Alexander > the POS timer was based on how much stront was inside
  78. [ 2016.10.24 16:18:22 ] Atarus Skjem > yeah
  79. [ 2016.10.24 16:20:04 ] DamageDude > going to a data site, wish me luck :D
  80. [ 2016.10.24 16:20:19 ] DamageDude > takes forever to train up these skills :(
  81. [ 2016.10.24 16:20:25 ] Atarus Skjem > gl
  82. [ 2016.10.24 16:22:56 ] Grayn Potato > i have been messing around on the test servers cant wait get to try the new orca tomorrow
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  90. Channel ID: (('corpid', 98107700),)
  91. Channel Name: Corp
  92. Listener: Atarus Skjem
  93. Session started: 2016.10.24 20:53:45
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  96. [ 2016.10.24 20:53:45 ] EVE System > Channel MOTD: [ Alliance Voice Chat via Discord invite link ] [ Alliance Forum ]|> Valor has an office on a High Sec island at Station: Algasienan VI - M 4, 10mil isk reward for getting jump clone there. Use 'shortest' route from Tarta, pref. in a cloaked ship or interceptor if you travel alone.|> Citadel in final building stage! Forum Thread for possible location here. Mailing List is 'Valor Citadel Workshop'|> War Declaration active with Excidium. from Oct 17th 21:20. Thier KB. Fly Safe!|> POS in Bania destroyed on 24th - ty to those who came to defend.|> Scheduled fleets (when forming follow this) - Fleet Join Link:Location:
  97. [ 2016.10.24 21:53:28 ] StarVex Ronuken > o/
  98. [ 2016.10.24 21:53:44 ] Atarus Skjem > evening
  99. [ 2016.10.24 21:54:14 ] StarVex Ronuken > we got our asses handed to us
  100. [ 2016.10.24 21:54:27 ] Atarus Skjem > its been a bad 24hrs hehe
  101. [ 2016.10.24 21:54:35 ] jack vitase > o/ I saw the report.
  102. [ 2016.10.24 21:54:39 ] StarVex Ronuken > Kill: StarVex Ronuken (Blackbird) Kill: StarVex Ronuken (Megathron)
  103. [ 2016.10.24 21:54:55 ] StarVex Ronuken > the blackbird stayed up longer than the megathron did
  104. [ 2016.10.24 21:56:02 ] Atarus Skjem > they reinforced poco after they killed the pos
  105. [ 2016.10.24 21:56:05 ] jack vitase > lol that's saying something. I'm going to say this right now: Let the POCO die. lol
  106. [ 2016.10.24 21:56:19 ] StarVex Ronuken > we couldnt break them when it was 3 vs 2
  107. [ 2016.10.24 21:56:23 ] Atarus Skjem > then they blew up lytas navy drake, then his hulk
  108. [ 2016.10.24 21:56:48 ] Atarus Skjem > they even came to the island
  109. [ 2016.10.24 21:57:45 ] Atarus Skjem > maybe we should all log off for a week hehe
  110. [ 2016.10.24 21:57:46 ] StarVex Ronuken > i figured they would
  111. [ 2016.10.24 21:59:26 ] StarVex Ronuken > luckily i didnt lose much isk from last nights ass whooping
  112. [ 2016.10.24 22:00:37 ] StarVex Ronuken > we primaried the raven and we couldnt get him into armor
  113. [ 2016.10.24 22:01:12 ] jack vitase > Damn!
  114. [ 2016.10.24 22:02:43 ] StarVex Ronuken > then the others showed up
  115. [ 2016.10.24 22:03:04 ] Atarus Skjem > how many wa sthere?
  116. [ 2016.10.24 22:03:23 ] StarVex Ronuken > 5 consistently.. the 6th popped in for a bit and left
  117. [ 2016.10.24 22:03:54 ] Atarus Skjem > pity it was such a bad time for us
  118. [ 2016.10.24 22:04:03 ] Atarus Skjem > i wa sgoing to work at that tim ehehe
  119. [ 2016.10.24 22:04:06 ] StarVex Ronuken > to fight these guys we need it to be 3vs1
  120. [ 2016.10.24 22:05:51 ] Atarus Skjem > weren't we getting help?
  121. [ 2016.10.24 22:06:14 ] StarVex Ronuken > i dont think we accepted the offer
  122. [ 2016.10.24 22:06:30 ] Atarus Skjem > oh
  123. [ 2016.10.24 22:06:37 ] StarVex Ronuken > when i got online the offer that my buddy's alliance made wasnt showing up
  124. [ 2016.10.24 22:10:08 ] Atarus Skjem > so we are on our own
  125. [ 2016.10.24 22:10:39 ] StarVex Ronuken > i would assume so
  126. [ 2016.10.24 22:23:07 ] StarVex Ronuken > depending on who all is online tomorrow.. i may try again
  127. [ 2016.10.24 22:24:00 ] Atarus Skjem > i will too, should be a good time for me
  128. [ 2016.10.24 22:24:24 ] StarVex Ronuken > these guys are going to find out the hard way im stubborn
  129. [ 2016.10.24 22:25:00 ] Atarus Skjem > hehe
  130. [ 2016.10.24 22:25:43 ] StarVex Ronuken > my own family gave up on trying to deter me a long time ago.. they know once i have my mind made up.. its done lol
  131. [ 2016.10.24 22:26:05 ] Atarus Skjem > :)
  132. [ 2016.10.24 22:26:38 ] StarVex Ronuken > besides this is just a game.. if i lose a ship i can make the isk back.
  133. [ 2016.10.24 22:27:05 ] Atarus Skjem > yeah, its easy come easy go hehe
  134. [ 2016.10.24 22:27:40 ] StarVex Ronuken > matt was insisting on me having the megathron last night.. even though he knows i wont fly anything bigger than a battlecruiser. dont know how to fly them well nor do i have the weapon skills high enough for larges
  135. [ 2016.10.24 22:27:55 ] StarVex Ronuken > so i insured it and made isk from losing it
  136. [ 2016.10.24 22:28:17 ] Atarus Skjem > good plan hehe
  137. [ 2016.10.24 22:29:46 ] StarVex Ronuken > it works lol
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  146. Channel ID: (('corpid', 98107700),)
  147. Channel Name: Corp
  148. Listener: Atarus Skjem
  149. Session started: 2016.10.23 12:49:54
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  152. [ 2016.10.23 12:49:54 ] EVE System > Channel MOTD: [ Alliance discord invite link ] [ Alliance Forum ]|> Valor has an office on a High Sec island at Station: Algasienan VI - M 4, 10mil isk reward for getting jump clone there. Use 'shortest' route from Tarta, pref. in a cloaked ship or interceptor if you travel alone.|> Citadel in final building stage! Forum Thread for possible location here. Mailing List is 'Valor Citadel Workshop'|> War Declaration active with Excidium. from Oct 17th 21:20. Thier KB. Fly Safe!|> Scheduled fleets (when forming follow this) - Bania POS Attacked! Comes out of reinforce [ Monday 23rd 6.20am ET ]. I know this is a quiet time for us but if you can make it to defend please do!Fleet Join Link: Valor Defence Fleet Location: Tarta
  153. [ 2016.10.23 12:51:41 ] jack vitase > Wow. Not that great assistance.
  154. [ 2016.10.23 12:52:07 ] Lyta Alexander > lol yes well the assistance requests are mostly from corp we previously had wardeccs from lol
  155. [ 2016.10.23 12:52:17 ] Atarus Skjem > morning all
  156. [ 2016.10.23 12:53:17 ] Atarus Skjem > has anything changed with the corp ore buying in last few months? not done mined since i came back
  157. [ 2016.10.23 12:56:39 ] Lyta Alexander > Hi Atarus Ray's corp ore buy program is still up, his Bulletin in the corp announcements still stands from august
  158. [ 2016.10.23 12:56:47 ] Atarus Skjem > k, thanks
  159. [ 2016.10.23 12:57:52 ] Atarus Skjem > hoping to mine neough to build some cheap pvp ships
  160. [ 2016.10.23 12:58:04 ] Atarus Skjem > definately not been doing enough isk making recently hehe
  161. [ 2016.10.23 12:59:24 ] Lyta Alexander > fair enough
  162. [ 2016.10.23 12:59:29 ] Lyta Alexander > just be careful with the wardec
  163. [ 2016.10.23 12:59:34 ] Atarus Skjem > yeah
  164. [ 2016.10.23 12:59:40 ] Lyta Alexander > i beleive they were around Bania a couple of hours ago
  165. [ 2016.10.23 12:59:45 ] Atarus Skjem > not seen them out in the island yet
  166. [ 2016.10.23 13:00:06 ] Atarus Skjem > yeah i moved to algasienan, had left my barge over here anyway
  167. [ 2016.10.23 13:00:20 ] Atarus Skjem > they seem to be all over bania like a rash hehe
  168. [ 2016.10.23 13:01:39 ] Lyta Alexander > Yea HSI is pretty good
  169. [ 2016.10.23 13:04:24 ] Lyta Alexander > should prob pop over to the POS to have a look lol
  170. [ 2016.10.23 13:04:41 ] Atarus Skjem > you think they will try to kill it?
  171. [ 2016.10.23 13:04:58 ] Atarus Skjem > timer can't be good for them, they are usually on at same sort of time as me - euro tz
  172. [ 2016.10.23 13:05:21 ] Lyta Alexander > Report: Starbase in Bania is under attackFrom: DEDSent: 2016.10.23 09:49Solar System: BaniaMoon: Bania VII - Moon 3 Attacked object: Blood Small Beam Laser BatteryCurrent Shield Level: 45%Current Armor Integrity: 40%
  173. [ 2016.10.23 13:05:23 ] jack vitase > I don't know. They've been baiting us this entire time.
  174. [ 2016.10.23 13:05:26 ] Lyta Alexander > Current Hull Integrity: 100%Aggressing Pilot: Aries Stargazer
  175. [ 2016.10.23 13:05:54 ] Lyta Alexander > aye I actually think it might be bait
  176. [ 2016.10.23 13:05:55 ] Atarus Skjem > why would they attack it again today? isn't it in reinforced?
  177. [ 2016.10.23 13:06:12 ] Lyta Alexander > that report is from earlier today, yea I have no idea Atarus
  178. [ 2016.10.23 13:06:14 ] Atarus Skjem > *is a bit nooby when it comes to pos
  179. [ 2016.10.23 13:06:25 ] Lyta Alexander > I did online a bunch more guns maybe they popped them
  180. [ 2016.10.23 13:06:31 ] Atarus Skjem > ah ok
  181. [ 2016.10.23 13:06:40 ] jack vitase > I'll take a look here in a few minutes.
  182. [ 2016.10.23 13:08:50 ] EVE System > Channel MOTD changed to: "[ Alliance discord invite link ] [ Alliance Forum ]|> Valor has an office on a High Sec island at Station: Algasienan VI - M 4, 10mil isk reward for getting jump clone there. Use 'shortest' route from Tarta, pref. in a cloaked ship or interceptor if you travel alone.|> Citadel in final building stage! Forum Thread for possible location here. Mailing List is 'Valor Citadel Workshop'|> War Declaration active with Excidium. from Oct 17th 21:20. Thier KB. Fly Safe!|> Scheduled fleets (when forming follow this) - Bania POS Attacked! Comes out of reinforce [ Monday 23rd 6.20am ET ]. I know this is a quiet time for us but if you can make it to defend please do!Fleet Join Link: Valor Defence Fleet Location: Heorah " by Lyta Alexander.
  183. [ 2016.10.23 13:09:07 ] Lyta Alexander > join that ill come in Glatstick
  184. [ 2016.10.23 13:14:19 ] Lyta Alexander > gonna make a safe spot here
  185. [ 2016.10.23 13:15:48 ] jack vitase > Cool.
  186. [ 2016.10.23 13:18:11 ] jack vitase > I'm going to go Bania and scout for a bit.
  187. [ 2016.10.23 14:09:27 ] Lyta Alexander > gonna go and do some updating of sell orders and contracts in Oursulaert III - Federation Navy Testing Facilities will cshoiut if i see anything
  188. [ 2016.10.23 14:35:29 ] kernel24 > Lyta Alexander , 6.20ET - is that EASTERN time, or EVE time?
  189. [ 2016.10.23 14:54:56 ] Lyta Alexander > eve time
  190. [ 2016.10.23 14:54:59 ] Lyta Alexander > always eve time
  191. [ 2016.10.23 14:55:19 ] Lyta Alexander > no way i could do it all in my head in any other lol :P
  192. [ 2016.10.23 15:25:48 ] WMStone Boirelle > o/
  193. [ 2016.10.23 15:30:43 ] Evangeline Solette > o/
  194. [ 2016.10.23 15:33:23 ] Lyta Alexander > o/
  195. [ 2016.10.23 16:26:32 ] jack vitase > Anyone spot WT's?
  196. [ 2016.10.23 17:46:24 ] EVE System > Channel MOTD changed to: "[ Alliance discord invite link ] [ Alliance Forum ]|> Valor has an office on a High Sec island at Station: Algasienan VI - M 4, 10mil isk reward for getting jump clone there. Use 'shortest' route from Tarta, pref. in a cloaked ship or interceptor if you travel alone.|> Citadel in final building stage! Forum Thread for possible location here. Mailing List is 'Valor Citadel Workshop'|> War Declaration active with Excidium. from Oct 17th 21:20. Thier KB. Fly Safe!|> Scheduled fleets (when forming follow this) - Bania POS Attacked! Comes out of reinforce [ Monday 23rd 6.20am ET ]. I know this is a quiet time for us but if you can make it to defend please do!Fleet Join Link: Valor Defence Fleet Location: Heorah " by jack vitase.
  197. [ 2016.10.23 19:08:42 ] jack vitase > WT's spotted in Heorah.
  198. [ 2016.10.23 19:11:36 ] Tiberius MC > thanks
  199. [ 2016.10.23 21:03:51 ] WMStone Boirelle > o/
  200. [ 2016.10.23 21:15:05 ] Lyta Alexander > o/ guys and gals how goes it
  201. [ 2016.10.23 21:15:30 ] Atarus Skjem > uneventfully, which is good
  202. [ 2016.10.23 21:15:46 ] WMStone Boirelle > o/
  203. [ 2016.10.23 21:15:48 ] Lyta Alexander > aye lol
  204. [ 2016.10.23 21:16:17 ] EVE System > Channel MOTD changed to: "[ Alliance Voice Chat via Discord invite link ] [ Alliance Forum ]|> Valor has an office on a High Sec island at Station: Algasienan VI - M 4, 10mil isk reward for getting jump clone there. Use 'shortest' route from Tarta, pref. in a cloaked ship or interceptor if you travel alone.|> Citadel in final building stage! Forum Thread for possible location here. Mailing List is 'Valor Citadel Workshop'|> War Declaration active with Excidium. from Oct 17th 21:20. Thier KB. Fly Safe!|> Scheduled fleets (when forming follow this) - Bania POS Attacked! Comes out of reinforce [ Monday 23rd 6.20am ET ]. I know this is a quiet time for us but if you can make it to defend please do!Fleet Join Link:Location:" by Lyta Alexander.
  205. [ 2016.10.23 21:16:23 ] WMStone Boirelle > i wont be able to make it monday at that time lyta, ill be in work
  206. [ 2016.10.23 21:16:44 ] WMStone Boirelle > my 1 weeks vacation is now over 8(
  207. [ 2016.10.23 21:17:34 ] Lyta Alexander > ah fair enough
  208. [ 2016.10.23 21:18:03 ] WMStone Boirelle > hopefully them schmuscks dont try to take out the pos
  209. [ 2016.10.23 21:18:22 ] Lyta Alexander > yea its only 9 hours away
  210. [ 2016.10.23 21:18:46 ] WMStone Boirelle > thats 3 am time for me
  211. [ 2016.10.23 21:19:03 ] WMStone Boirelle > im sorry 2 am
  212. [ 2016.10.23 21:19:39 ] Lyta Alexander > yea 7am for me lol :P im lucky i dont have work tomorrow
  213. [ 2016.10.23 21:20:29 ] WMStone Boirelle > i wish i could retire
  214. [ 2016.10.23 21:20:43 ] Lyta Alexander > that woiuld be nice
  215. [ 2016.10.23 21:20:50 ] WMStone Boirelle > aye
  216. [ 2016.10.23 21:21:10 ] WMStone Boirelle > but here in the US retirement is just a dream
  217. [ 2016.10.23 21:26:20 ] WMStone Boirelle > no wt in Alentene
  218. [ 2016.10.23 21:26:36 ] WMStone Boirelle > unusual i see them here alot
  219. [ 2016.10.23 22:03:46 ] Tiberius MC > Kill: Tiberius MC (Orca)
  220. [ 2016.10.23 22:04:05 ] Tiberius MC > Kill: Tiberius MC (Capsule)
  221. [ 2016.10.23 22:11:39 ] Atarus Skjem > whoa
  222. [ 2016.10.23 22:11:51 ] Atarus Skjem > i am sorry for your loss man
  223. [ 2016.10.23 22:14:11 ] Tiberius MC > ya that sucks....
  224. [ 2016.10.23 22:38:11 ] Tegra Sengin > o7 again
  225. [ 2016.10.23 22:41:47 ] Tiberius MC > 0/
  226. [ 2016.10.23 23:32:52 ] WMStone Boirelle > holy Tib lost jis orca
  227. [ 2016.10.23 23:33:19 ] WMStone Boirelle > jeez these guys are startin to piss me off
  228. [ 2016.10.23 23:34:06 ] jack vitase > Be ghosts don't undock if you see them. Just log off.
  229. [ 2016.10.23 23:34:35 ] jack vitase > It will keep our movements hidden for a while.
  230. [ 2016.10.24 00:02:45 ] Lyta Alexander > dayum just saw Tiberius' loss
  231. [ 2016.10.24 00:02:53 ] Lyta Alexander > thats not nice :(
  232. [ 2016.10.24 00:06:11 ] jack vitase > This has been a bad time. Is there enyway to take the POS down right after it comes out of reinforcement?
  233. [ 2016.10.24 00:07:51 ] Lyta Alexander > was planning on it lol
  234. [ 2016.10.24 00:11:14 ] jack vitase > I'm getting a sniper ready for the fight. Screw sleep and work. lol
  235. [ 2016.10.24 00:39:19 ] mattburk brothens > Vaedian GER in Bania
  236. [ 2016.10.24 00:39:42 ] jack vitase > Don't undock.
  237. [ 2016.10.24 00:39:51 ] jack vitase > We've had enough losses for one day.
  238. [ 2016.10.24 00:40:24 ] mattburk brothens > what does he fly
  239. [ 2016.10.24 00:44:36 ] jack vitase > Don't know. Hang on.
  240. [ 2016.10.24 00:45:46 ] mattburk brothens > typhoon
  241. [ 2016.10.24 00:45:57 ] jack vitase > Yeah.
  242. [ 2016.10.24 00:46:57 ] StarVex Ronuken > o/ lyta
  243. [ 2016.10.24 00:47:02 ] mattburk brothens > if i had the last 3 things i need i could take him with my kronos
  244. [ 2016.10.24 00:47:08 ] StarVex Ronuken > o/ everyone
  245. [ 2016.10.24 00:47:14 ] StarVex Ronuken > those nos's?
  246. [ 2016.10.24 00:47:22 ] mattburk brothens > ya
  247. [ 2016.10.24 00:47:55 ] jack vitase > Yup. Get ready. We're defending our territory.
  248. [ 2016.10.24 00:48:34 ] mattburk brothens > when is the pos out of reinforce mode
  249. [ 2016.10.24 00:49:15 ] jack vitase > 0622 EVE Time. Six hours from now.
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  257. Channel ID: (('allianceid', 99003568),)
  258. Channel Name: Alliance
  259. Listener: Atarus Skjem
  260. Session started: 2016.10.24 20:53:42
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  263. [ 2016.10.24 20:53:45 ] EVE System > Channel MOTD: [ Alliance Discord Invite Link ][ Alliance POS in Bania offline ] [ Alliance Forum ]|> Keep an eye on chat & the calendar for future events/fleets. Additions/Concerns? Mail Lyta Alexander/Raymeous Smolik.|> Valor Fortizar in final build stage, forum thread for possible locations here.|> War Declaration active with Excidium. from Oct 17th 21:20. Thier KB. Fly Safe!|> Scheduled fleets open to all alliance members. Follow this please. -
  264. [ 2016.10.24 22:37:49 ] Arien Licinius > o/
  265. [ 2016.10.24 22:37:58 ] jack vitase > o/
  266. [ 2016.10.24 22:38:13 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > HOw did the battle go?
  267. [ 2016.10.24 22:38:24 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > The POS wasn't destroyed, so that's a good thing
  268. [ 2016.10.24 22:38:25 ] jack vitase > Badly.
  269. [ 2016.10.24 22:38:35 ] Atarus Skjem > ....
  270. [ 2016.10.24 22:38:53 ] Atarus Skjem > War: Excidium. vs. Order of Allied Knights
  271. [ 2016.10.24 22:38:54 ] Arien Licinius > things went poorly in a recent battle?
  272. [ 2016.10.24 22:39:09 ] StarVex Ronuken > me and lyta lost ships trying to defend
  273. [ 2016.10.24 22:39:14 ] Arien Licinius > omg
  274. [ 2016.10.24 22:39:18 ] Arien Licinius > 54 ship!
  275. [ 2016.10.24 22:39:29 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > holy jesus that was a lot of wreckage
  276. [ 2016.10.24 22:39:31 ] StarVex Ronuken > we lost the pos
  277. [ 2016.10.24 22:39:44 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Oh damn, I didn't realize that.
  278. [ 2016.10.24 22:39:55 ] Arien Licinius > how did they kill 54 ships and lost 0?
  279. [ 2016.10.24 22:40:20 ] StarVex Ronuken > it was 3vs2 at first.. we primaried the raven and couldnt get him into armor
  280. [ 2016.10.24 22:40:25 ] Atarus Skjem > that is for the war so far
  281. [ 2016.10.24 22:40:31 ] Arien Licinius > wow..
  282. [ 2016.10.24 22:40:38 ] StarVex Ronuken > then the rest came in
  283. [ 2016.10.24 22:40:40 ] Arien Licinius > still.. the pos guns must have been shooting?
  284. [ 2016.10.24 22:40:49 ] StarVex Ronuken > they were incapacitated
  285. [ 2016.10.24 22:41:04 ] StarVex Ronuken > we didnt have a chance to turn them back on
  286. [ 2016.10.24 22:41:35 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Was there a lot of loot, or none at all?
  287. [ 2016.10.24 22:41:55 ] StarVex Ronuken > idk it was late and i was running on 3 hrs of sleep.
  288. [ 2016.10.24 22:42:51 ] StarVex Ronuken > the poco in ebasez is next on their list. and they went to the island after they put the poco in reinforcement
  289. [ 2016.10.24 22:43:56 ] StarVex Ronuken > tomorrow about this time the poco comes out of reinforcemnet
  290. [ 2016.10.24 22:44:21 ] Arien Licinius > damn
  291. [ 2016.10.24 22:45:11 ] StarVex Ronuken > i was able to jamm them out somewhat good last night and they gave me a tip on how to make the jamms more effective
  292. [ 2016.10.24 22:45:26 ] StarVex Ronuken > if we have enough people online things might go a little different
  293. [ 2016.10.24 22:45:50 ] Arien Licinius > I am stuck on a shitty internet connection
  294. [ 2016.10.24 22:45:58 ] Arien Licinius > so I won't be much help
  295. [ 2016.10.24 22:46:09 ] Arien Licinius > and I'm only online for short periods of time until next week
  296. [ 2016.10.24 22:46:18 ] StarVex Ronuken > they shut down matts kronos
  297. [ 2016.10.24 22:47:32 ] Atarus Skjem > was he able to tank them long?
  298. [ 2016.10.24 22:48:03 ] StarVex Ronuken > oh yea.. they had to cap drain him
  299. [ 2016.10.24 22:48:25 ] StarVex Ronuken > he managed to keep his kronos
  300. [ 2016.10.24 22:48:39 ] StarVex Ronuken > me and lyta wasnt so lucky
  301. [ 2016.10.24 22:48:43 ] Atarus Skjem > he did?
  302. [ 2016.10.24 22:49:04 ] StarVex Ronuken > he was kiting them.. his tech 2 large rails reach out aways
  303. [ 2016.10.24 22:49:26 ] StarVex Ronuken > they didnt have a scram on the armageddon that got close enough to cap drain
  304. [ 2016.10.24 22:50:05 ] Atarus Skjem > um
  305. [ 2016.10.24 22:50:14 ] Atarus Skjem > he had 2 kronos?
  306. [ 2016.10.24 22:50:42 ] StarVex Ronuken > oh damn he did lose it
  307. [ 2016.10.24 22:51:07 ] Atarus Skjem > was thinking ....
  308. [ 2016.10.24 22:51:16 ] Atarus Skjem > its in the war log anyway
  309. [ 2016.10.24 22:51:21 ] StarVex Ronuken > he said he was warping away.. must have been talking about his pod
  310. [ 2016.10.24 22:52:44 ] Atarus Skjem > bummer
  311. [ 2016.10.24 23:01:38 ] StarVex Ronuken > anyone have a logi ship that can shield rep?
  312. [ 2016.10.24 23:02:56 ] Arien Licinius > I only have a T1
  313. [ 2016.10.24 23:03:08 ] StarVex Ronuken > ive got an augorer
  314. [ 2016.10.24 23:03:13 ] StarVex Ronuken > its t1
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  325. Listener: Atarus Skjem
  326. Session started: 2016.10.23 12:49:53
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  329. [ 2016.10.23 12:49:54 ] EVE System > Channel MOTD: [ Alliance Discord Invite Link ][ Alliance use POS up at Bania ] [ Alliance Forum ]|> Keep an eye on chat & the calendar for future events/fleets. Additions/Concerns? Mail Lyta Alexander/Raymeous Smolik.|> Valor Fortizar in final build stage, forum thread for possible locations here.|> War Declaration active with Excidium. from Oct 17th 21:20. Thier KB. Fly Safe!|> Valor POS in Bania is in reinforce, help if you are able for when it comes out of reinforce. [ Monday 23rd 6.20am ET ]|> Scheduled fleets open to all alliance members. Follow this please. - Valor Defence Fleet
  330. [ 2016.10.23 13:09:35 ] EVE System > Channel MOTD changed to: "[ Alliance Discord Invite Link ][ Alliance use POS up at Bania ] [ Alliance Forum ]|> Keep an eye on chat & the calendar for future events/fleets. Additions/Concerns? Mail Lyta Alexander/Raymeous Smolik.|> Valor Fortizar in final build stage, forum thread for possible locations here.|> War Declaration active with Excidium. from Oct 17th 21:20. Thier KB. Fly Safe!|> Valor POS in Bania is in reinforce, help if you are able for when it comes out of reinforce. [ Monday 23rd 6.20am ET ]|> Scheduled fleets open to all alliance members. Follow this please. - Valor Defence Fleet" by Lyta Alexander.
  331. [ 2016.10.23 15:33:27 ] Lyta Alexander > o/
  332. [ 2016.10.23 20:56:53 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Hola
  333. [ 2016.10.23 21:15:10 ] Lyta Alexander > o/
  334. [ 2016.10.23 21:17:01 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > So, someday hopefully we are out of this war dec
  335. [ 2016.10.23 21:20:08 ] Lyta Alexander > tomorrow possibly
  336. [ 2016.10.23 21:21:18 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > I even trained my out of corp alts to fly freighters because this is nuts........
  337. [ 2016.10.23 21:24:34 ] Lyta Alexander > well what can we do lol, people like to dec us recently
  338. [ 2016.10.23 21:25:06 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > indeed
  339. [ 2016.10.23 21:26:54 ] WMStone Boirelle > o/
  340. [ 2016.10.23 21:27:20 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > hey
  341. [ 2016.10.23 21:32:31 ] WMStone Boirelle > hey guy how do you activate cloths for ur chr when you get it?
  342. [ 2016.10.23 21:32:50 ] WMStone Boirelle > Men's 'Outlaw' Pants (Blood Raiders)
  343. [ 2016.10.23 21:35:06 ] Lyta Alexander > good question
  344. [ 2016.10.23 21:35:23 ] Lyta Alexander > i think i have one clothing item from a long tiome ago IO cant remember
  345. [ 2016.10.23 21:35:28 ] Lyta Alexander > prob in the rightr click menus
  346. [ 2016.10.23 21:35:55 ] WMStone Boirelle > nope right click dont show
  347. [ 2016.10.23 21:36:01 ] WMStone Boirelle > how to use
  348. [ 2016.10.23 21:36:10 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > You go into the customizer with that thing in your inventory.
  349. [ 2016.10.23 21:37:57 ] WMStone Boirelle > in immediate inventory ot in items?
  350. [ 2016.10.23 21:38:03 ] WMStone Boirelle > or^
  351. [ 2016.10.23 21:38:37 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > That station. When yo put it on, it falls out of your visible inventory, but once you take it off, it will reappear again.
  352. [ 2016.10.23 21:39:04 ] WMStone Boirelle > weird lol ill try it thanks
  353. [ 2016.10.23 21:39:16 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Lyta must be in a toga sheet if that's all they're wearing. Must enjoy the free flowing air.
  354. [ 2016.10.23 21:39:25 ] Lyta Alexander > lolol
  355. [ 2016.10.23 21:39:26 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Yeah, it's sort of archaic, but that's how it works.
  356. [ 2016.10.23 21:40:05 ] WMStone Boirelle > lol thanks for the mental image, im gonna have fun with that
  357. [ 2016.10.23 21:41:10 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Well, I could have said Lyta's nekkid, and that's just her highschool class photo for a protrait..... Just saying.....
  358. [ 2016.10.23 21:42:45 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Ok, I have officially ran 75 curior contracts in the past four days. I used to like my freighters, but now not so much........
  359. [ 2016.10.23 21:49:46 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > So, is that POS situation as bad as that message read?
  360. [ 2016.10.23 21:50:48 ] Lyta Alexander > LOLOL
  361. [ 2016.10.23 21:51:09 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > What you being naked or the POS?
  362. [ 2016.10.23 21:51:24 ] Lyta Alexander > well the POS is empty apart from a few BP's but the modules arent cheap so be nice if we get a few people to come on and defend it
  363. [ 2016.10.23 21:51:25 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > OR have you jsut developed a manical laugh you wanted to share with the alliance?
  364. [ 2016.10.23 21:51:28 ] phil Echerie > o
  365. [ 2016.10.23 21:51:33 ] Lyta Alexander > im going to bed early so I can wakeup for it lol
  366. [ 2016.10.23 21:52:24 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > OK. I'll be at an appointment while you guys are doing your thing? How long will it be before it will be "safe"?
  367. [ 2016.10.23 21:52:57 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > OR out of trouble I guess
  368. [ 2016.10.23 21:54:37 ] Lyta Alexander > not long I dont think
  369. [ 2016.10.23 21:54:42 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > ok
  370. [ 2016.10.23 21:57:02 ] Lyta Alexander > either they contest and we fight, or we dont and the sheild regens and comes out of reinf
  371. [ 2016.10.23 21:58:18 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Ah, so this is sort of coinsiding with the war dec ending I take it. I forgot when it started.
  372. [ 2016.10.23 21:58:26 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > There's so many of them you know......
  373. [ 2016.10.23 21:58:32 ] WMStone Boirelle > how much longer is the wd ?
  374. [ 2016.10.23 21:58:41 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > 2018
  375. [ 2016.10.23 21:58:57 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Trench warefare
  376. [ 2016.10.23 21:59:02 ] WMStone Boirelle > huh?
  377. [ 2016.10.23 21:59:29 ] WMStone Boirelle > its ending 20:18?
  378. [ 2016.10.23 22:00:22 ] Lyta Alexander > 6 days 40min ago was the wardec
  379. [ 2016.10.23 22:00:42 ] Lyta Alexander > I have no clue when that means we get the notification if its ending
  380. [ 2016.10.23 22:01:17 ] WMStone Boirelle > hopefully it be soon and they dont decide to extend it
  381. [ 2016.10.23 22:01:29 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > I don't get those anymore. I've noticed that for the last few war decs now.
  382. [ 2016.10.23 22:01:51 ] WMStone Boirelle > why is it we always get the wardec's by these few man corps?
  383. [ 2016.10.23 22:02:06 ] Lyta Alexander > which? I have never got an extend mail only the ending one
  384. [ 2016.10.23 22:02:19 ] WMStone Boirelle > itslike they tryin to provce themselves by ganking an indy corp
  385. [ 2016.10.23 22:02:28 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > I haven't received any ending messages for the last few WDs.
  386. [ 2016.10.23 22:02:38 ] WMStone Boirelle > i have
  387. [ 2016.10.23 22:02:40 ] Lyta Alexander > ah
  388. [ 2016.10.23 22:02:59 ] Lyta Alexander > maybe they go into notifications feed only and you have it turned off?
  389. [ 2016.10.23 22:03:08 ] WMStone Boirelle > i get this notification from the last one that concord invalidated it
  390. [ 2016.10.23 22:03:32 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > I don't recall that. I get other notifications, just not that one.
  391. [ 2016.10.23 22:04:56 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > I don't see how I could block it, but it doesn't matter I guess. I'm a hub dweller..........
  392. [ 2016.10.23 22:06:11 ] WMStone Boirelle > ima try the hubdweller life someday
  393. [ 2016.10.23 22:06:38 ] WMStone Boirelle > in between mining for isk and running my ass off from wardecs
  394. [ 2016.10.23 22:06:45 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > It's nice. Impossible to get blown up unless you blow up your own wallet.
  395. [ 2016.10.23 22:07:19 ] WMStone Boirelle > i dont even know what ya do in a hub
  396. [ 2016.10.23 22:07:48 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > I'm an isk farmer.
  397. [ 2016.10.23 22:08:16 ] WMStone Boirelle > ok lol im not sure i would be good at that
  398. [ 2016.10.23 22:08:18 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > A few steps beyond just a simple trader/producer/researcher
  399. [ 2016.10.23 22:09:11 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Pick a speciality, develpe a strategy, get to know your market target and those that work it, then beat the hell out of it. Or conversely, go seed one.
  400. [ 2016.10.23 22:10:06 ] WMStone Boirelle > lol Jari you just spoke in another langauge, i have no idea how to do any of that yet
  401. [ 2016.10.23 22:10:38 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Oh it's not hard. Just takes determination and some isk to get it started. A few lucky breaks would be a nice bonus, but not a requirement.
  402. [ 2016.10.23 22:11:23 ] phil Echerie > i made nice money in buying ore compressing it and selling it on for profit
  403. [ 2016.10.23 22:12:17 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Profit is just that profit. It's not a race, it's consistant income. Never make it a race, that's the fastest way to get pissed and quit that profession.
  404. [ 2016.10.23 22:13:16 ] phil Echerie > lol i was buying from one system and shipping it to jita for sale
  405. [ 2016.10.23 22:13:21 ] WMStone Boirelle > ya the consistant income part is what scares me tho, im not sure i would make it
  406. [ 2016.10.23 22:13:22 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > COntrol your expenditures, know your hub and your competators (to some extent), and then have fun.
  407. [ 2016.10.23 22:13:49 ] phil Echerie > ive moved into ship production
  408. [ 2016.10.23 22:14:06 ] WMStone Boirelle > thats what i aim to do
  409. [ 2016.10.23 22:14:20 ] WMStone Boirelle > i have been training skills in that
  410. [ 2016.10.23 22:14:40 ] phil Echerie > i'll be capital production trained tommoow
  411. [ 2016.10.23 22:14:44 ] WMStone Boirelle > im not lvl 5 in all but getitng there
  412. [ 2016.10.23 22:15:07 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Ok, do this then. There's two ways to do this part. One, jsut make a lot of stuff then sell it. The other is to mission like mad, then sell it on the market. BUT BEFORE YOU DO:
  413. [ 2016.10.23 22:15:16 ] WMStone Boirelle > right now im loooking to max out all my mining skills
  414. [ 2016.10.23 22:15:34 ] WMStone Boirelle > i want to be able to fly an orca some day too
  415. [ 2016.10.23 22:15:40 ] phil Echerie > maxed out mining all readyy
  416. [ 2016.10.23 22:15:52 ] phil Echerie > got orca in my mining field
  417. [ 2016.10.23 22:15:55 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Make sure you have Social to 5, Trade to 5, Accounting to 5, Broker Relations to 5, and an additionally one like Margin Trading to 5, or Visability, etc.
  418. [ 2016.10.23 22:16:12 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > IF those aren't at 5, then you are thowing away isk.
  419. [ 2016.10.23 22:16:19 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > If you want to trade that is.
  420. [ 2016.10.23 22:16:30 ] phil Echerie > there the next skills i need to make sure i got
  421. [ 2016.10.23 22:17:14 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Look at what those skills benefit you and you will then start getting what's required to make isk, and how the mechanics flow.
  422. [ 2016.10.23 22:17:41 ] phil Echerie > mining made most my money till now
  423. [ 2016.10.23 22:18:02 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Additionally, I would also get Scrarmetal Processing to 5 as well as Reporcessing 5. That way, you aren't wasting mins on stuff that are worth more as dust than as a complete item.
  424. [ 2016.10.23 22:18:26 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Here's a somple example:
  425. [ 2016.10.23 22:18:47 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Take a mod (doesn't matter what it is). Right click and check market value
  426. [ 2016.10.23 22:19:14 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > THen right click over it and check reprocessing (FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DO NOT HIT REPROCESS THOUGH!!!)
  427. [ 2016.10.23 22:19:34 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > What you just did was check the local market value of that item, versus it's intrinsic value.
  428. [ 2016.10.23 22:19:54 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > You will see is what you can sell it at. What you can dump it at, and what the intrinsic value is.
  429. [ 2016.10.23 22:20:39 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > With those three numbers, you will have more knowledge than most players whom just right click and reporcess or dump to market.
  430. [ 2016.10.23 22:21:38 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Also, as part of getting to know your hub, you want to perfrom market research. THis is where you mission until your eyes bleed, then start selling your wares. You will soon know what sells well and what doesn't.
  431. [ 2016.10.23 22:22:29 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Also, if an item is really expensive (officer or DED mods for example), expect to sit on them until someone comes along and buys them, probably 6 month's later.
  432. [ 2016.10.23 22:23:36 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > So, you need ot find what your market staples are, what your vertical sales are, and what your discretionary sales are. Vertiacals alway outdo in volume discretionary, but discretionary may yield more isk, because of item value.
  433. [ 2016.10.23 22:23:40 ] WMStone Boirelle > how do i sell something on the arket for a specific price?
  434. [ 2016.10.23 22:23:50 ] WMStone Boirelle > like do i get to choose the price?
  435. [ 2016.10.23 22:24:07 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > YOu first need those skills I mentioned. Assuming you have them, then do this:
  436. [ 2016.10.23 22:24:09 ] WMStone Boirelle > all ive been doing is sellin shit at stations
  437. [ 2016.10.23 22:24:26 ] WMStone Boirelle > ya i do have em just not trained very high
  438. [ 2016.10.23 22:24:46 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > View Market, then organize your viewer to have the lowest sell price at the top, and the highest buy price at the top on the bottom part.
  439. [ 2016.10.23 22:25:22 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Those two are really the only two numbers on that screen that are worth a damn. THen look at history, you will then see volume of that particualr item moved or not.
  440. [ 2016.10.23 22:26:20 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > So, once you organized your viewer like this, you will now know what the lowest price is in the station or region. Then go below it. But Never go less than the intrinsic value of the item, again, you're just giving away isk if you do.
  441. [ 2016.10.23 22:26:51 ] WMStone Boirelle > k i get that part
  442. [ 2016.10.23 22:27:04 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > It's a tad complicated, but once you do it for a while, you begin to read the market, make trader connections, and then you have a whole network to work amongst.
  443. [ 2016.10.23 22:27:14 ] WMStone Boirelle > but what i mean is
  444. [ 2016.10.23 22:27:33 ] WMStone Boirelle > when you sell something do you actually get to choose the price?
  445. [ 2016.10.23 22:27:52 ] WMStone Boirelle > like ive only ever been able to sell anything to a station
  446. [ 2016.10.23 22:27:55 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Yes, of course you do.
  447. [ 2016.10.23 22:28:14 ] WMStone Boirelle > and just get what its sellin at
  448. [ 2016.10.23 22:28:21 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > YOu need ot work on your skills, and hten you will see how much more efficient you will become at trading.
  449. [ 2016.10.23 22:28:52 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Ok here's an example:
  450. [ 2016.10.23 22:29:07 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > YOu have an item. IT's worth 10M for simple numbers.
  451. [ 2016.10.23 22:29:38 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > How I determined it was someone had it up for sale at that price as the lowest in the region.
  452. [ 2016.10.23 22:30:00 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > But I see someone willing to buy one for 7M as the highest buy order in the region.
  453. [ 2016.10.23 22:30:05 ] WMStone Boirelle > ahh nice i see it now
  454. [ 2016.10.23 22:30:19 ] WMStone Boirelle > ok lol damn do i feel like 1 day old noob now
  455. [ 2016.10.23 22:30:26 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Now I'm skipping over visibility ranges as in how far from a station/citadel someone can sell and buy
  456. [ 2016.10.23 22:30:49 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > So, you also reprocess the item to see what it's intrinsic value is
  457. [ 2016.10.23 22:31:30 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > YOu have it easy, I made a spreadsheet that compared immediate Jita and Amarr prices for the exact quantity of trit, pye, etc. Now it's a fairly accurate extimate.
  458. [ 2016.10.23 22:31:47 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > estimate so you don't even have to do that if you don't want ot.
  459. [ 2016.10.23 22:31:55 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > But back to my example:
  460. [ 2016.10.23 22:32:40 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > You elect to reprocess evaluate the item, and find it to be worth 9M. SO what to you do now? (Retorically)
  461. [ 2016.10.23 22:32:59 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > YOu can reprocess it for 9M worth of mins or..
  462. [ 2016.10.23 22:33:13 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > YOu can now see how much it will cost you to actually sell that item.
  463. [ 2016.10.23 22:33:32 ] WMStone Boirelle > hmm never thought about that
  464. [ 2016.10.23 22:33:41 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > If the borker fees and taxes cut too deep into your profit margin, then selling directly or reprocessing is what you should do.
  465. [ 2016.10.23 22:34:04 ] WMStone Boirelle > i did get something rare once from reprocessing something awhile back that sold for iirc 40mill
  466. [ 2016.10.23 22:34:09 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > SO, you want to sell direct, and now you find yoru tax is still more than what your estimate is for reprocessing it.
  467. [ 2016.10.23 22:34:14 ] phil Echerie > its why i keep check ht i spend on ship build to know how much is bottom lin
  468. [ 2016.10.23 22:34:15 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > So you reprocess it for the mins.
  469. [ 2016.10.23 22:35:07 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Yes, you always always always want to check the buy, sell, and reprocessing values. That way you ensure you don't kill yourself being a trader.
  470. [ 2016.10.23 22:35:38 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Now you can get into production costs, which adds more numbers into the equasion.
  471. [ 2016.10.23 22:35:56 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > But it's managemable as well as long as you're at 5 where the money counts in skills.
  472. [ 2016.10.23 22:36:32 ] WMStone Boirelle > this is something im definitely lookin into more, you got me interested
  473. [ 2016.10.23 22:36:42 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > I made myself 5 in broker relations, social, accounting, margin trading and it's saved me billions in the long run.
  474. [ 2016.10.23 22:37:06 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > IT's a whole new dynamic to the game.
  475. [ 2016.10.23 22:37:24 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Now instead of running around blowing shit up. YOu just created your own stock exchange
  476. [ 2016.10.23 22:37:39 ] WMStone Boirelle > thanks for the info, now im a little more confident about it
  477. [ 2016.10.23 22:37:51 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > No problem
  478. [ 2016.10.23 22:38:01 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > THere are also some trading strategies you can use as well:
  479. [ 2016.10.23 22:38:15 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > The key is supply versus demand
  480. [ 2016.10.23 22:38:39 ] WMStone Boirelle > like ore and what not
  481. [ 2016.10.23 22:38:44 ] WMStone Boirelle > i get that
  482. [ 2016.10.23 22:38:46 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > YOu can buy all of hte other commodoties that are going to compete with your's (the more expensive stuff you can ignore), jsut to ensure yoru stuff sells.
  483. [ 2016.10.23 22:38:53 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > You can also fund wars
  484. [ 2016.10.23 22:39:09 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Start selling ships near war zones. Ammo is great too.
  485. [ 2016.10.23 22:39:10 ] WMStone Boirelle > thats a waaays off for me yet lol
  486. [ 2016.10.23 22:39:29 ] phil Echerie > lol i ventured into ammo production
  487. [ 2016.10.23 22:39:31 ] WMStone Boirelle > yes i have lots of ammo bpo
  488. [ 2016.10.23 22:39:54 ] phil Echerie > ot to be carefull on sell pries
  489. [ 2016.10.23 22:39:57 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > But when you produce, always introduce your stuff on the market in small manageale chunks. I never dump more than 10 of a moajor item.
  490. [ 2016.10.23 22:40:24 ] phil Echerie > yeh mrket saturation
  491. [ 2016.10.23 22:40:43 ] WMStone Boirelle > aye that kills the market
  492. [ 2016.10.23 22:40:45 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > The reason is because, once you make that sales agreement, you already paid a fee on those items, so when you have to defend them and lower your prices, you are inherently losing money in doing so.
  493. [ 2016.10.23 22:41:03 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > That's another tool to control expenses
  494. [ 2016.10.23 22:41:52 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > I love assholes that must be infront of me, and they have 80 of an item, and I just have 1. I normally drive them into a fenzy so they go below what the intrinsic value is, then I buy it and either reprocess or resell it myself.
  495. [ 2016.10.23 22:42:21 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > They think they won and I'm a sap, but in the end, they just lost their entire profit margin and it was a huge waste of tie for them.
  496. [ 2016.10.23 22:42:31 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > That's called PvM or Player versus Market.
  497. [ 2016.10.23 22:42:35 ] WMStone Boirelle > like if i make 100000 anitmatter ammo, only put it on market say about 10000 at a time to test it see how it sells, then if it sells good go higher?
  498. [ 2016.10.23 22:42:40 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > And I'm auber aggressive.
  499. [ 2016.10.23 22:42:44 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > uber
  500. [ 2016.10.23 22:43:09 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > NO, I make mountains of stuff, but I sell it in small quantities.
  501. [ 2016.10.23 22:43:24 ] WMStone Boirelle > i make missiles also for some of my ships instead of buyin off market
  502. [ 2016.10.23 22:43:30 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > It costs only 100isk to make a market modification, but you are losing isk every time you lower your prices.
  503. [ 2016.10.23 22:43:44 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > So, to mitigate those loses, use smaller quantities.
  504. [ 2016.10.23 22:44:20 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > When I sell ships, I rarely sell more than 5 at a time of a particualr one.
  505. [ 2016.10.23 22:44:29 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Ammo, rarely over 50K
  506. [ 2016.10.23 22:44:44 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Normal mods, probably 15 or so.
  507. [ 2016.10.23 22:45:14 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > But I also do a lot of T2 production too, so that's what the BPCs produce too. For me that works well.
  508. [ 2016.10.23 22:47:37 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > And just for gee whiz purposes and not bragging, the fastest billion I made that was not a single sell, but pure profit was in 9 minutes. So you can be quite sucessful if you develop your marketing strategies.
  509. [ 2016.10.23 22:47:49 ] WMStone Boirelle > ive got some bpc i cant use yet, thinking of sellin em
  510. [ 2016.10.23 22:48:02 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Can yo uproduce them?
  511. [ 2016.10.23 22:48:04 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > you
  512. [ 2016.10.23 22:48:05 ] WMStone Boirelle > i say i cant use because i dont have the mats to
  513. [ 2016.10.23 22:48:27 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > That's where margin trading would work. YOu just buy what you want or need.
  514. [ 2016.10.23 22:48:37 ] WMStone Boirelle > Brutix Blueprint Noctis Blueprint
  515. [ 2016.10.23 22:49:30 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > YOu will make a profit wiht the Noctis if you do it right. THe brutix as well but not as much. (In Amarr that is).
  516. [ 2016.10.23 22:49:52 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > YOu already have 10% off of the material requirements, so that's a perfect BPC.
  517. [ 2016.10.23 22:50:05 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Of you sell those, you must have contracting skill
  518. [ 2016.10.23 22:50:13 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > BPCs do not sell on the market.
  519. [ 2016.10.23 22:50:14 ] WMStone Boirelle > i checked the prices, the noct is listed at 499mill
  520. [ 2016.10.23 22:50:33 ] WMStone Boirelle > the brut is 570mill
  521. [ 2016.10.23 22:50:42 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Umm where?
  522. [ 2016.10.23 22:50:47 ] WMStone Boirelle > ya thats what i thought
  523. [ 2016.10.23 22:50:47 ] Atarus Skjem > thats the bpos
  524. [ 2016.10.23 22:51:30 ] WMStone Boirelle > im wondeirng tho if i researched it enough would i be able to make a bpo out of them
  525. [ 2016.10.23 22:52:40 ] WMStone Boirelle > ive researched some drone bpo and made tech 2 bpc with em
  526. [ 2016.10.23 22:52:49 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > NO, it's the other way around. You make a BPC from a BPO. I never reversed engineered, but that's the only way you could do what you just said I believe.
  527. [ 2016.10.23 22:52:55 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > There you go
  528. [ 2016.10.23 22:53:10 ] WMStone Boirelle > got 2 of these Light Hull Maintenance Bot II Blueprint
  529. [ 2016.10.23 22:53:30 ] WMStone Boirelle > from a bot I bpo
  530. [ 2016.10.23 22:54:23 ] WMStone Boirelle > well ok i need to do some research
  531. [ 2016.10.23 22:54:57 ] WMStone Boirelle > thanks for the info, i might try and get into the market thing some time soon
  532. [ 2016.10.23 22:55:24 ] WMStone Boirelle > starting off small of course
  533. [ 2016.10.23 22:56:03 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > If you want to short cut the BPO/C process I do have a ton of BPCs for sale. But that's up to you.
  534. [ 2016.10.23 22:56:28 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > There's enough variety in the cans you can see what works, and how to work some items.
  535. [ 2016.10.23 22:56:32 ] WMStone Boirelle > nahh im good for now ty
  536. [ 2016.10.23 22:56:39 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > ok
  537. [ 2016.10.23 22:57:03 ] WMStone Boirelle > ive got some sigils i can make and sell
  538. [ 2016.10.23 22:57:51 ] WMStone Boirelle > they sell high but still
  539. [ 2016.10.23 22:58:03 ] WMStone Boirelle > might get me used to it
  540. [ 2016.10.23 22:58:13 ] WMStone Boirelle > maybe i can make a small profit off em
  541. [ 2016.10.23 22:58:15 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > I turn mine into T2
  542. [ 2016.10.23 22:58:27 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Plus I use two as staff cars
  543. [ 2016.10.23 22:58:32 ] WMStone Boirelle > t2 ship bpc?
  544. [ 2016.10.23 22:58:56 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > Prorator
  545. [ 2016.10.23 22:59:08 ] WMStone Boirelle > o.O
  546. [ 2016.10.23 22:59:26 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > The only T1 ship I fly are some faction and capitols.
  547. [ 2016.10.23 22:59:29 ] Jari Vilhjalmer > ships
  548. [ 2016.10.23 22:59:37 ] WMStone Boirelle > lol now im gonna research the piss outta this bpc
  549. [ 2016.10.23 23:28:28 ] Laqutas Tivianne > in active combat @ Trosquesere
  550. [ 2016.10.23 23:28:35 ] Laqutas Tivianne > i am on Ansone Gate
  551. [ 2016.10.23 23:29:34 ] Laqutas Tivianne > Rav en Cedoulain
  552. [ 2016.10.23 23:31:24 ] Laqutas Tivianne > need some help got his armor half way down, he got help coming
  553. [ 2016.10.23 23:31:51 ] jack vitase > Working on getting to you.
  554. [ 2016.10.23 23:32:32 ] jack vitase > 9 jumps out.
  555. [ 2016.10.23 23:35:10 ] Laqutas Tivianne > com on
  556. [ 2016.10.23 23:35:33 ] phil Echerie > sos not anywhere near with pvp ship
  557. [ 2016.10.23 23:36:03 ] Laqutas Tivianne > great im dead now
  558. [ 2016.10.23 23:36:06 ] Laqutas Tivianne > got him some help
  559. [ 2016.10.23 23:36:56 ] jack vitase > Damn.
  560. [ 2016.10.23 23:39:36 ] Laqutas Tivianne > Kill: Laqutas Tivianne (Brutix Navy Issue)
  561. [ 2016.10.23 23:40:07 ] WMStone Boirelle > these guys are really annoying
  562. [ 2016.10.23 23:44:20 ] Laqutas Tivianne > now im pissed
  563. [ 2016.10.23 23:44:28 ] Laqutas Tivianne > i know its my own fault
  564. [ 2016.10.23 23:44:34 ] Laqutas Tivianne > but now i want vengence
  565. [ 2016.10.24 00:04:48 ] jack vitase > Alright, I want everyone to dock up. Set your orders, jobs, whatever to run over night. Ghosts in the wind, we will be. We'll gear up for the POS defense.
  566. [ 2016.10.24 00:06:03 ] Lyta Alexander > aye gonna have a 6 hour nap now until the POS comes out of reinf, see you guys later o/
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