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- Supplemental document for: "Theory that Roger Stone's go-between for Wikileaks was Randy Credico", link: https://wakelet.com/wake/2d352ae9-febe-44a1-a7bb-51674a2e4bf5
- Excerpt from an interview with Edward Isaac-Dovere for Politico, which focuses on intermediary between Roger Stone and Wikileaks. Publication date: March 27, 2017. Interview excerpt runs from 31:20 to 37:00.
- File can be found here: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/roger-stone-they-have-no-proof-236526
- EDWARD ISAAC-DOVERE
- Let's talk, let's go back to the stuff maybe Devin Nunes invite you to testify about at some point. I think we know some of what it would be. There's the famous tweet, August 21, that it'll soon be Podesta's time in the barrel...
- ROGER STONE
- Yes, I will be prepared to address that...
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- So, let's address it. So you said, you had a mutual friend with Assange, right? And you also say in the book, that part of it is, you assume stuff would come out about Podesta because of all the things you had heard Podesta was mixed up with, and so...you figured, eventually that's going to come out because of all the stuff that was coming out at that moment about Manafort, right? But the mutual friend-
- STONE
- It's a bit more- It's a bit more specific than that...but go ahead.
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- But so, the mutual friend told you that something was coming, right?
- STONE
- Not in regard to Podesta. You're conflating two completely different matters. One is the charge in which, some say, because in August, I say, while Manafort is under heavy attack for his business activities in Eastern Europe, and I'm well aware of the Podesta brothers' activities in the region, and I've seen a brilliant outline of them from Dr. Jerry Corsi, who's a brilliant researcher and investigative journalist, and I know there are a number of significant journalists who are starting to look at some of their business activities...and on the basis of a piece I myself start on, but it takes me a long time to write, is...all based on that. I didn't say "#Wikileaks". I didn't say "#Assange". Separate issue: I have a friend, a mutual friend, yeah, in front of a Tea Party speech I called him a backchannel...backchannel, intermediary, mutual friend...all the same, no inaccuracy...some words more charged than others...
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- And this mutual friend, she's an American journalist, right?
- STONE
- _They_ are an American journalist. Don't blame me if my sources are better than yours.
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- I- mean- [laughs]
- STONE
- This person tells me...that Assange has the motherlode on Hillary...includes everything, which would presumably mean...those emails deleted by Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills...and they'll be released in October. Everything he tells me turns out to be true. Between the time he tells me this in August, and the time it happens in October, he tells me three times, the same exact thing. It's coming! It's coming! It's coming! And I say to him: "Now look, Assange, you heard this from Assange?" He said, "I communicated with Assange." I said: "He knows you're a friend of mine?" [source:] "Yes." [Stone:] "Did he say this was off the record?" He said: "No, he didn't say." I said, "Well, clearly he understands that I might repeat this." And he said, "He didn't say it was off the record." End of story.
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- How did you know to trust this person in the first place? How did you-
- STONE
- Because he was somebody I've known for a long time, and who has never lied to me on other matters.
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- And where did you-
- STONE
- How do you, as a journalist, know whether to trust a source?
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- I think it's a similar thing. Is this person someone you met over caviar and vodka bar in the- [laughs]
- STONE
- No. Nor in Brighton Beach [New York neighborhood with a large Russian American community]. Look, this is- I'm going to protect my source, as anybody would. And I reported this, on my website. I reported it on my Infowars, you know, gig that I do every Wednesday at one eastern...for an hour. And I have no...the idea that there's anything more specific to the charge that you orchestrated, or strategized, or knew the scope of what they had, the scope of what they intended to release is false. On October 5, Assange has a press event and he says that he will have disclosures over the next ten weeks, at the beginning of each week, and he does. And it's all about Hillary. There is no foreshadowing of the Podesta's emails...that's speculation. Conjecture. And...nor is there any more detailed information, other than that this bomb is coming, which I did report, and I just explained why I know. How I knew. And it turned out to be true.
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- But the person...just wanna clarify here, was this person talking to Assange? Or-
- STONE
- As I said in today's Miami Herald ["In fullest statement yet on hacking controversy, Roger Stone explains what happened -- and what didn't" by Glenn Garvin: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/article140454238.html], he [the backchannel] always said "communicated". I didn't think about that till later, when I examined it, but he always said, "I communicated". He also did go to London, in this period, between the time in August-
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- So, it's an American journalist? Here. In the U.S.?
- STONE
- Yes. And he visited London, some time between August and October.
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- Mmmmhmmm.
- STONE
- So, I had every reason to believe this information was good based on the track record. It turned out to be accurate.
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- All the conversations you're having are in the States, right? You're not in London, or-
- STONE
- Correct. I never visited London.
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- But you're talking to the person directly?
- STONE
- Yes.
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- Okay. It seems like weird things happen when you go to the Ecuadorian embassy in London, it's like when Nigel Farage was there a couple weeks ago, and right after, couldn't remember why he was there.
- STONE
- That was fascinating, I couldn't figure that out. I saw that, I would have had a snappier comment than that.
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- [laughs] I mean, is there any doubt in your mind that Farage was meeting with Assange?
- STONE
- I can't imagine he would go there for any other reason. But Assange has proved to not be a Russian agent, so what would be wrong with meeting with him? I think he's-
- ISAAC-DOVERE
- I don't think there would be, it seemed weird that Farage, immediately after leaving the building, said he couldn't remember why he was there. [laughs]
- STONE
- Yeah, that seemed like a certain lack of political finesse, but I'm not going to, you know, disparage a friend. [ISAAC-DOVERE laughs]
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