[con] fu u saturn

[19:55] <serb> Saturn2888:
[19:55] <serb> Important Question:
[19:55] <Saturn2888> go
[19:55] <serb> You say you have synced over 10000 simfiles
[19:55] <Saturn2888> DaisuMaster: pull
[19:55] <serb> Do you have Them
[19:55] <serb> (or atleast the .sm files)
[19:56] <Saturn2888> yeah
[19:56] <serb> Holy shit
[19:56] <serb> Dude
[19:56] <serb> go to your /songs/ folder
[19:56] <serb> f3
[19:56] <serb> ".sm"
[19:56] <serb> select everything
[19:56] <serb> and put them into a rar or something
[19:56] <Saturn2888> Can't man :p
[19:56] <Saturn2888> gotta pay for me for that stuff
[19:56] <Saturn2888> bc I worked REALLY hard on it
[19:56] <serb> Aw man :|
[19:56] <Saturn2888> this is not something I would do for free
[19:56] <serb> the synced stuff?
[19:56] <serb> awww man
[19:56] <serb> K ..
[19:56] <Saturn2888> I did sync a lot, but I had a reason.
[19:56] <Saturn2888> sorry man :(
[19:57] <Saturn2888> it's like "here's all this work someone did and slaved over for people to enjoy, I would like it for free"
[19:57] <Saturn2888> That's like ... :'(
[19:57] <serb> k
[19:57] <serb> How much
[19:57] <Saturn2888> Dunno. Depends on how many you want
[19:57] <serb> dunno
[19:58] <serb> I thought that if i had your sm files
[19:58] <Saturn2888> And I'd also like you to test s-- lemme private this
[19:58] <serb> Which were properly synced
[19:58] <Jousway>  like it for free" << I feel like so kicking your ass right now
[19:58] <Jousway> Saturn2888
[19:58] <Saturn2888> My time costs.
[19:58] <&magnus> heh.
[19:58] <Saturn2888> And I do plenty for free as it is
[19:58] <serb> I'd just
[19:58] <serb> adjust my global offset to them
[19:58] <serb> and then
[19:58] <serb> Bam
[19:58] <&magnus> if you're gonna ask people to pay you do it outside the channel
[19:58] <&magnus> :)
[19:58] <serb> every single song ever
[19:59] <serb> synce
[19:59] <serb> d
[19:59] <Saturn2888> Like if Nick, the maker of albumix, asked me for the syncs, I'd give 'em to him
[19:59] <serb> Perfectly
[19:59] <serb> Oh god
[19:59] <Saturn2888> magnus: I did
[19:59] <Jousway> I feel like runing to your house and put my foot right against your ass right now Saturn2888
[19:59] <serb> Why all the hate
[19:59] <Saturn2888> seriously :P
[19:59] <serb> What Saturn2888 did is some srs shit.
[19:59] <serb> Srs.
[19:59] <@wolfman2000> I may have had lunch, but I am still cranky
[19:59] <@wolfman2000> and I am not afraid to kick people.
[20:00] * @DaisuMaster (DaisuMaster@52afde.2ea106.5ce85e.aa5774) Quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
[20:00] <@wolfman2000> so keep it civil
[20:00] <&magnus> I assure you we will not
[20:00] <&magnus> ;)
[20:00] <@wolfman2000> magnus: you can get away with it
[20:01] <Saturn2888> haha
[20:01] <&Midiman> lol
[20:01] <&magnus> it's entirely ridiculous however
[20:01] <&Midiman> sm's
[20:01] <&magnus> those various synced files? they aren't yours.
[20:01] <@wolfman2000> I'm referring ot......you know, I'm not even going to come up with Rattrap like names
[20:01] <@wolfman2000> I'd end up going too far
[20:01] <&magnus> you put time into them but you don't even own the things
[20:01] <&magnus> you cannot rightfully make anyone pay for them.
[20:01] * AFKvinil gets moar popcorn
[20:01] <&magnus> a patch maybe
[20:01] <AFKvinil> ...oh
[20:01] <AFKvinil> guess I'm not afk anymore
[20:02] * AFKvinil is now known as pumpervinil
[20:02] <&magnus> so, enjoy your selling of other people's simfiles presumably with no clearance to do so
[20:02] <Missingno_force> Saturn2888: it doesnt matter which prog. but it should be avail for free
[20:02] * Missingno_force is now known as AFK_force
[20:02] <Saturn2888> hmm?
[20:02] <Saturn2888> What hsould be?
[20:03] <Saturn2888> should*
[20:03] <@wolfman2000> the syncing patch I think
[20:03] * magnus sets mode: +o Jousway
[20:03] <Saturn2888> I'm not selling sims, I'm selling offsets
[20:03] <@wolfman2000> if I understand the......
[20:03] * Jousway sets mode: +b *!*@b21a55.18af46.035a75.527fb7
[20:03] <@wolfman2000> okay, time out
[20:03] * Timer 1 activated
[20:03] * Timer 1 halted
[20:03] * Saturn2888 was kicked by Jousway (fuck you)
[20:03] * magnus sets mode: +v TaroNuke
[20:03] * magnus sets mode: +v Staiain
[20:03] <serb> :|
[20:03] <@wolfman2000> what the hell was that for?
[20:03] <pumpervinil> hey wtf
[20:03] * magnus sets mode: +v pumpervinil
[20:03] <+pumpervinil> YEY
[20:03] <@wolfman2000> Jousway isn't even a developer!
[20:03] * DaisuMaster (DaisuMaster@52afde.2ea106.5ce85e.aa5774) has joined #sm-ssc
[20:03] * ChanServ sets mode: +o DaisuMaster
[20:03] <&magnus> he's ssc though
[20:03] <+pumpervinil> I'm a commiter, yet I'm not an op :(
[20:03] * magnus sets mode: +o pumpervinil
[20:03] <@pumpervinil> \o/
[20:03] <&magnus> enjoy.
[20:04] <@wolfman2000> pumpervinil: you haven't committed anything yet
[20:04] <@pumpervinil> tha-
[20:04] <&magnus> he's cool anyways
[20:04] <@wolfman2000> still, the point is made
[20:04] <@pumpervinil> hey my mercurial is buggy :(
[20:04] <@wolfman2000> ...well, for pumper being an op at this point
[20:04] <@wolfman2000> but...alright. what did Saturn do this time?
[20:04] <@Jousway> talk
[20:04] <@Jousway> wolfman2000 srsly how can you stand him
[20:04] <@wolfman2000> not good enough
[20:04] <@Jousway> he insulted me and my noteskins
[20:04] <&Midiman> what the FUCk just happened though
[20:04] <@Jousway> he insults other people
[20:04] <serb> huh
[20:04] <serb> When
[20:05] <@wolfman2000> Jousway: he gave constructive criticism, or at least tried to, on your noteskins
[20:05] <@Jousway> he is a giant idiotic dick
[20:05] <&Midiman> oh
[20:05] <&Midiman> saturn got the shaft
[20:05] <@wolfman2000> there were errors, he pointed them out
[20:05] <@DaisuMaster> he said to me midi is stupid
[20:05] <@DaisuMaster> :x
[20:05] <@Jousway> how in gods name can you stand him
[20:05] <&Midiman> ahahahahahaha daisu really
[20:05] <@wolfman2000> even I pointed them out, and yet I have to agree you are too stubborn to fix them
[20:05] <@DaisuMaster> yeah
[20:05] <&Midiman> got a log?
[20:05] <@wolfman2000> somewhere
[20:05] <@pumpervinil> fun fun fun fun
[20:05] <&Midiman> as much as I help him?
[20:05] <&Midiman> now im having fun
[20:05] <@Jousway> wolfman2000 I just dont get it how you can stand him
[20:05] <@wolfman2000> insulting others: passionate. Well, okay, some of it is insulting
[20:06] <@wolfman2000> Jousway: as far as how...well, I hav eworked with him before
[20:06] <&magnus> saturn is unfortunately the kind of person who drives many to insanity
[20:06] <@wolfman2000> prior to this
[20:06] <@Jousway> he drives me insane
[20:06] <@wolfman2000> and yes, even he can get on my nerves.
[20:06] <@wolfman2000> But much slower
[20:06] <@pumpervinil> the blessing of Sheogorath
[20:06] <@Jousway> he drives midi insane
[20:06] <&magnus> I deal with him enough on skype
[20:06] <@Jousway> he drives shake innsane
[20:06] <@Jousway> he drives even freem insane
[20:06] <@wolfman2000> I let him know when he pushes it for me, and he backs off
[20:06] <@pumpervinil> oh, guess I'm playing too much Oblivion
[20:06] <&Midiman> he drives everyone who works with him insane simply because he flip flops
[20:06] <&magnus> Jousway lol a lot of things do
[20:06] <@wolfman2000> however, there is one thing I can attest to.
[20:06] <@wolfman2000> You do work for him, he will pay
[20:06] <&magnus> but that's another issue
[20:06] <@Jousway> its the way he talks
[20:06] <&magnus> yeah he will pay
[20:06] <&magnus> but
[20:06] <@pumpervinil> $$$
[20:07] <&magnus> he can take that out of here
[20:07] <&magnus> this is a channel about an open source game and he is making it about HIS game
[20:07] <&magnus> entirely
[20:07] <&magnus> always
[20:07] <@Jousway> its the way he gives wrong info while he tinks he is right and is being a fucking idiot that wont agree that he is wrong
[20:07] <@Jousway> even if you got enough facts
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[20:07] * ChanServ sets mode: +qo freem freem
[20:07] <&Midiman> this is so cute
[20:07] <@wolfman2000> Jousway: some of his info is right
[20:07] <@Jousway> I only got him one time to prove that he is wrong
[20:07] <&Midiman> it finally happened
[20:07] <&magnus> also effectively offering to sell the simfiles of others
[20:07] <@Jousway> one fucking time
[20:07] <~freem> where did that fucking worthless piece of shit go
[20:07] <&magnus> that's pretty uncool
[20:07] <@Jousway> most of them time he is fucking stupid
[20:07] <&Midiman> wolfman2000: the fact that he got a new sm tag
[20:07] <~freem> and why are you so fucking intent on defending him wolfman
[20:07] <@wolfman2000> banned by Jousway
[20:07] <@Jousway> freem I banned him
[20:07] <~freem> why are you so fucking intent on defending him wolfman
[20:07] <&Midiman> and reversed them
[20:07] <~freem> why are you so fucking intent on defending him wolfman
[20:07] <~freem> why are you so fucking intent on defending him wolfman
[20:07] <~freem> why are you so fucking intent on defending him wolfman
[20:07] <~freem> why are you so fucking intent on defending him wolfman
[20:07] <@pumpervinil> LOL
[20:07] <~freem> jesus fucking christ
[20:07] <&magnus> channel heat++
[20:07] <@wolfman2000> freem: I'm trying to play devil's advocate
[20:08] <@Jousway> I banned his fucking ass
[20:08] <~freem> go play it to someone else who doesn't hate him
[20:08] <@Jousway> all the way to the end of the world
[20:08] <&magnus> channel heat MAXIMUM
[20:08] <&Midiman> channel heat fever etc
[20:08] <~freem> all of us fucking hate that worthless son of a bitch
[20:08] <~freem> who keeps thinking he's better than all of us and says bullshit like thids
[20:08] <~freem> (07:29 p.m.) Kevin:	midi also likes doing the most ridiculously stupid coding techniques, haha
[20:08] <@Jousway> yeah
[20:08] <~freem> I'm sick of feeling like I have no fucking control in this place
[20:08] <@Jousway> wolfman2000 wanna know what he said to me
[20:08] <@Jousway> wanna fucking know what he said
[20:08] <@wolfman2000> if you got logs, show them
[20:09] <@pumpervinil> this room has Brazil's spirit
[20:09] * @pumpervinil success
[20:09] <&magnus> HUEHUEHUEHUE
[20:09] <&magnus> (first thought)
[20:10] <@pumpervinil> I'm feeling home now, lol
[20:10] <@Jousway> 6/11/2011  12:13:08 PM  DumbFuck(withnumbers)  yeah, because you can't program noteskins for shit.
[20:10] <@Jousway> saturn telling me I cant program noteskins for shit
[20:10] <@Jousway> HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT HE DOES
[20:10] <@wolfman2000> Jousway: I told you of the same error
[20:10] <@Jousway> he cant do shit himself
[20:10] <@wolfman2000> but in much kinder terms
[20:10] <~freem> honestly
[20:10] <~freem> at this point
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[20:10] <@Jousway> and then he tells me I cant program for shit
[20:10] <~freem> if you guys want saturn here more than people who actually know what they're doing
[20:10] <~freem> then go ahead
[20:10] <@Jousway> look at how many noteskins I have
[20:11] <@Jousway> 50+
[20:11] <@wolfman2000> freem: I'm not saying I want him back here
[20:11] <@Jousway> satur
[20:11] <@Jousway> n
[20:11] <@Jousway> has only his crappy prez edits
[20:11] <@wolfman2000> I'm trying to clarify just one point of Jousway's
[20:11] <@Jousway> no living fuck cares about
[20:11] <serb> jousway: can i see ur noteskins
[20:11] <~freem> anyways since this is going to go nowhere
[20:11] <&Midiman> straw that broke camels back
[20:11] <~freem> and has been going nowhere
[20:11] <~freem> I'm going to do something productive and play fucking minecraft
[20:11] <@wolfman2000> Jousway: I believe you can program noteskins
[20:11] <~freem> good day.
[20:11] * ~freem (no2@bdnk-af2fd675.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) has left #sm-ssc
[20:11] <@Jousway> and he tells me I cant make noteskins
[20:11] <@Jousway> well fuck hum
[20:11] <@Jousway> fuck saturn
[20:11] <&Midiman> saturns insults are so passive
[20:11] <@wolfman2000> all I asked was that you fix a stoptweening bug
[20:11] <&Midiman> that I fail to see them as insults
[20:11] <@wolfman2000> much kinder than how Saturn was trying to address it
[20:12] <&Midiman> seeing anything from saturn thats supposed to be negative is not possible imo
[20:12] <&Midiman> maybe im too kind but I dont have a problem with him other than teaching him things and him telling people something that isnt true
[20:12] <@pumpervinil> simfile time \o/
[20:12] <&Midiman> but he has a big mouf
[20:12] <&Midiman> and a bigger sense of adventure
[20:12] <@Jousway> saturn gives wrong info and its to thick headed to acssept he is wrong
[20:12] <@wolfman2000> I am in similar views to Midi
[20:12] <&Midiman> and that clearly didnt work with him today
[20:12] <@wolfman2000> though he is not completely wrong on everything
[20:12] <&Midiman> im not perfect either but lol
[20:12] <@Jousway> and time to time he tries to tell me how to make noteskins
[20:13] <@Jousway> like as if I dont know
[20:13] <&Midiman> im really surprised this even -happened-
[20:13] <@Jousway> srsly how fucking dumb is he
[20:13] <@wolfman2000> I do agree that some of Jousways skins have a tweening bug.
[20:13] <&Midiman> dude who caaaaares
[20:13] <&Midiman> its saturn
[20:13] <&Midiman> he's learning
[20:13] <&Midiman> he's like 27 isnt he
[20:13] <@DaisuMaster> egh
[20:13] <@Jousway> I'm 18 so
[20:13] <@DaisuMaster> Jousway: you joung
[20:13] <&Midiman> I dunno wha the's doing right now
[20:13] <@Jousway> I young
[20:13] <@pumpervinil> hell I'm not even going to mention my age
[20:13] <@DaisuMaster> young*
[20:13] <@DaisuMaster> (lol)
[20:13] <@DaisuMaster> I disconnected, what happened
[20:13] <@DaisuMaster> uh saturn banned
[20:14] <&magnus> yes
[20:14] <&magnus> we got sick of him
[20:14] <@DaisuMaster> what else
[20:14] <&magnus> collectively
[20:14] <@Jousway> and saturn isnt learning I try to teach him shit and he is like NO U WRONG DO IT LIKE THIS, and then he fucks up and then he comes to me asking for help to fix it for him
[20:14] <&magnus> aj got mad about things
[20:14] <@Jousway> this happend 3752375727575375275 times
[20:14] <&magnus> other than that, not a lot
[20:15] <serb> <Saturn2888> I'm not selling sims, I'm selling offsets
[20:15] <&magnus> LOL
[20:15] <&magnus> you know what
[20:15] <&magnus> qotd
[20:15] * magnus changes topic to 'Latest: SM5 Preview 2 | http://sm-ssc.googlecode.com/ | bugs: http://ssc.ajworld.net/sm-ssc/bugtracker/ | SM5 Lua bindings: http://goo.gl/XNiov | Suggestions: http://goo.gl/TWEMP | We know we need a new Step Editor. No need to request it. | Theme Wiki: http://goo.gl/SO7W5 | <Saturn2888> I'm not selling sims'
[20:15] <&magnus> oops
[20:15] <@Jousway> <serb> <Saturn2888> I'm not selling sims, I'm selling offsets << another great example
[20:15] <serb> um
[20:15] <serb> Jousway,
[20:15] <&Midiman> did he really say that
[20:15] <@DaisuMaster> wtf
[20:15] <@DaisuMaster> what does that means anyway
[20:15] <serb> i dont really want his .sm files
[20:15] * magnus changes topic to 'Latest: SM5 Preview 2 | http://sm-ssc.googlecode.com/ | bugs: http://ssc.ajworld.net/sm-ssc/bugtracker/ | SM5 Lua bindings: http://goo.gl/XNiov | Suggestions: http://goo.gl/TWEMP | Theme Wiki: http://goo.gl/SO7W5 | <Saturn2888> I'm not selling sims, I'm selling offsets | Yeah, editor sucks.'
[20:15] <@pumpervinil> already my MSN subnick =)
[20:16] <serb> for
[20:16] <serb> u
[20:16] <serb> m
[20:16] <@Jousway> people here work for a year their ass of to make themes like an year just to make some theme so some kids can play sm for fun and free
[20:16] <&magnus> yeah really
[20:16] * AFK_force is now known as Missingno_force
[20:16] <serb> Jousway:
[20:16] <serb> J
[20:16] <&magnus> I spent
[20:16] <&magnus> years
[20:16] <&magnus> working on optical
[20:16] <Missingno_force> holy crap
[20:16] <&magnus> and made not a thing on it
[20:16] <@Jousway> then you have saturn saying
[20:16] <serb> dude
[20:16] <serb> saturn worked
[20:16] <serb> shitlaods
[20:16] <@Jousway> Mon[07:56:24]pm <Saturn2888> Can't man :p
[20:16] <@Jousway> Mon[07:56:30]pm <Saturn2888> gotta pay for me for that stuff
[20:16] <@Jousway> Mon[07:56:34]pm <Saturn2888> bc I worked REALLY hard on it
[20:16] <serb> of hours
[20:16] <serb> n shit
[20:16] <&magnus> saturn worked
[20:16] <serb> FOR THE OFFSETS
[20:16] <&magnus> a TINY fraction
[20:16] <&magnus> of the amount I've done
[20:16] <&magnus> on anything
[20:16] <serb> Oh well
[20:16] <&magnus> and give away free
[20:17] <@Jousway> more lime 0.01%
[20:17] <Missingno_force> lime?
[20:17] <&magnus> like*
[20:17] <&Midiman> like most likely
[20:17] <@Jousway> hey maybe I should ask money for my noteskins
[20:17] <@Jousway> hows that
[20:17] <&Midiman> man this is pretty funny
[20:17] <&Midiman> floodgates of truth
[20:17] <serb> [21:09] <Saturn2888> Takes a week of syncing day/night to sync 2000 files
[20:17] <serb> [21:09] <Saturn2888> or was it 1000
[20:17] <serb> [21:09] <Saturn2888> oh it's 1000
[20:17] <@Jousway> WANNA USE MY NOTESKINS FOR FREE
[20:17] <&magnus> and us
[20:17] <@Jousway> NOPE
[20:17] <&magnus> who worked on sm-ssc
[20:17] <@Jousway> PAY UP
[20:17] <&magnus> and sm5 now
[20:17] <&magnus> put in COUNTLESS hours unpaid
[20:17] <&Midiman> saturn'd
[20:17] <@pumpervinil> more like 2 years
[20:17] <&magnus> hell most of the time we don't even get a thanks
[20:17] <@pumpervinil> or almost that
[20:17] <&Midiman> I still want my $750
[20:17] <&magnus> or a nice job
[20:17] <@DaisuMaster> Midiman: same
[20:17] <serb> What if he only sends me the offsets
[20:18] <serb> would that still count as umm
[20:18] <&Midiman> I kinda wanna say on aim that he fucked up
[20:18] <Missingno_force> magnus: thats why you are one of the best guys in the world. and you will get a thanks from mr
[20:18] <serb> making profit out of stuff that don't belong 2 u
[20:18] <&Midiman> lol
[20:18] <&magnus> Missingno_force: appreciated
[20:18] <@wolfman2000> ...I will admit that some of the programming I recently did was for Saturn, but at least I make those features available to everyone.
[20:18] <&Midiman> going to throw this out right now
[20:18] <Missingno_force> heh
[20:18] <&Midiman> shakesoda you are like the only one that gets thanks
[20:18] <&magnus> wolfman2000: yeah, that's fine
[20:18] <&Midiman> everywhere you go
[20:18] <&magnus> also important
[20:18] <&Midiman> when me or freem come around
[20:18] <&Midiman> 'fuck you shut the fuck up'
[20:18] <@wolfman2000> shakesoda gets thanks
[20:18] <&Midiman> shakesoda says the exact same thing
[20:18] <&magnus> midi you are right
[20:18] * @pumpervinil thanks everyone
[20:18] <&Midiman> 'MAN U RULE THNX"
[20:18] <Missingno_force> sorry midiman: i dunno who worked on SM, and magnus just said he did so...
[20:19] <@wolfman2000> freem gets thanks even though he doesn't realize it
[20:19] <@Jousway> <Saturn2888> I take noteskins other people made like midiman and jousway and just name them prez and change some easy code a 12 year old can and call them mine
[20:19] <@wolfman2000> Thai and I are getting thanks for split timing
[20:19] <&magnus> but still
[20:19] <&Midiman> freem barely gets the thanks he gets
[20:19] <&Midiman> *deserves
[20:19] <@pumpervinil> yeah =/
[20:19] <&Midiman> he's been working on this dumb thing since..
[20:19] <Missingno_force> okay, once and for all "THANKS TO THE WHOLE SM DEV TEAM"
[20:19] <&Midiman> god knows how long
[20:19] <&magnus> AJ has put more of his life into SM
[20:19] <&magnus> than anyone
[20:19] <@Jousway> 2002?
[20:19] <@Jousway> 2004?
[20:19] <&magnus> literally anyone
[20:19] <&Midiman> retarded long
[20:19] <@Jousway> aleast AGES AGO
[20:19] <Missingno_force> and a special thanks to aj
[20:19] <&Midiman> its like for something so small you can at least give him a pat on the back but nope
[20:19] <@DaisuMaster> bring him here
[20:20] <&Midiman> I blame the userbase though
[20:20] <&magnus> I've told him many times that SM would be nothing like it is without him
[20:20] <&magnus> but still
[20:20] <&Midiman> stepmania users are kind of fucking -retarded-
[20:20] <&magnus> that's just me saying it
[20:20] <&Midiman> a special kind of retarded
[20:20] <&magnus> need like 100 others
[20:20] <@Jousway> AJ works his ass off making stuff so a load of guys can just ly back and play stepmania without problem
[20:20] <@Jousway> but he doesnt even get a fucking thankyou
[20:20] <@wolfman2000> ...well, perhaps I can now use some of my recent StepMania forum powers.
[20:20] <&magnus> I end up being the one getting things only because I give myself way too much presence
[20:20] <serb> can somebody answer my Question
[20:20] <&magnus> :<
[20:20] <@wolfman2000> magnus: is there a way i can just flat out disable links to SM 3.9?
[20:20] <@DaisuMaster> I learned more SM stuff (lua) thanks to him actually
[20:20] <@DaisuMaster> serb: ?
[20:20] <serb> What if he only sends me the offsets
[20:20] <&magnus> wolfman2000 yeah if I could find the files
[20:20] <serb> > would that still count as umm
[20:21] <&magnus> I was gonna pull the downloads
[20:21] <serb> making profit out of stuff that don't belong 2 u
[20:21] <&magnus> with pr2
[20:21] <@DaisuMaster> selling floats lol?
[20:21] <serb> wat
[20:21] <@wolfman2000> serb: I will ask that this question be taken outside of this room
[20:21] <@wolfman2000> This is...not the time or place
[20:21] <&magnus> lol DaisuMaster
[20:21] <serb> k
[20:21] <serb> sry
[20:21] <@Jousway> and then you have saturn here that just takes some shit makes some dumb edits (that he is bound to fuck up so he comes to me or midi or shake for help AGAIN) and then even when we all help him even if its a mod version of shit we made he has the guts to call it his
[20:21] <serb> didnt know u guys hate saturn
[20:21] <@pumpervinil> selling numbers made complicated
[20:21] <@wolfman2000> I don't hate him
[20:21] * @pumpervinil gets shot
[20:21] <serb> dunno this chat is pretty mad
[20:21] <&magnus> serb if he only gives you a patch no that would be technically alright
[20:21] <@wolfman2000> but I'm in the minority
[20:21] <serb> @ him
[20:21] <serb> yeah
[20:21] <&magnus> serb: this is more of icing on the cake
[20:22] <&magnus> I don't outright hate him
[20:22] <serb> Jousway seems to be most mad actually
[20:22] <&Midiman> no-one is really made
[20:22] <&Midiman> mad even
[20:22] <&Midiman> its just like
[20:22] <@Jousway> saturn stays banned, end of story, the end, he is gone, done
[20:22] <&Midiman> you know how graphics designers get pissed at some of their employers?
[20:22] <&magnus> I don't think he belongs here is it really
[20:22] <&Midiman> it's like that
[20:22] <serb> aww :<
[20:22] <&Midiman> except we dont get paid
[20:23] <@Jousway> we are just sick of him serb
[20:23] <&Midiman> I've made.. $250 off working with that cat for a year and a half so far
[20:23] <&Midiman> iirc
[20:23] <&magnus> and the fact of things is
[20:23] <&magnus> SM5 isn't his game
[20:23] <&Midiman> he owes me $250 for the first project
[20:23] <&Midiman> he owes me $250 for the second because he never paid me for the first
[20:23] <&magnus> his attitude tends to be "I run the show"
[20:23] <&Midiman> and he quoted me $1000 for this project
[20:23] <&Midiman> the shit
[20:23] <@wolfman2000> Midiman: I'm getting...more than 250 soon in dwolla
[20:23] <@wolfman2000> I can send you 250 if you want
[20:24] <&magnus> wolfman2000 that's not right though
[20:24] <@Jousway> Midiman he also owns aj money doesnt he?
[20:24] <&magnus> it's not just about -having- the money
[20:24] <&magnus> it's the idea
[20:24] <&Midiman> that he wont pay you
[20:24] <&magnus> he's paid me so far
[20:24] <&magnus> but uh
[20:24] <&Midiman> he pays shake but he also has a job
[20:24] <@DaisuMaster> saturn paid me $200
[20:24] <@wolfman2000> technically, I'm still owed more money, but I have asked to have that held
[20:24] <&Midiman> so its kinda miniscle
[20:25] <@wolfman2000> He puts value in certain things more than others, I will give you that
[20:25] <@wolfman2000> point is, I can't make it all better with giving money, but I can at least help with some of it
[20:25] <&magnus> the most specialized stuff (relatively) gets the least
[20:25] <&magnus> heh
[20:25] <&magnus> also he REFUSES to pay by hour
[20:26] <@wolfman2000> I can understand that one
[20:26] <&magnus> from his point sure, but it's a ripoff for everyone who does the work
[20:26] <@Jousway> I bet saturn proably thinks making a theme is easy because he only knows 0.0000000001% about it and when he does work on themes he fucks it up
[20:26] <&Midiman> no
[20:26] <&magnus> I know the reasons from _his_ side
[20:26] <&Midiman> saturn -knows- how to theme
[20:26] <@wolfman2000> magnus: http://www.stepmania.com/download.php?file=StepMania-3.9b.exe  This should give you a starting point for deleting 3.9
[20:26] <&Midiman> he refuses
[20:26] <&magnus> wolfman2000: yeah if it didn't have that script heh
[20:26] <&vyhd|away> he might know how to theme in the abstract
[20:26] <&vyhd|away> like I know how to build a car
[20:27] * vyhd|away is now known as vyhd
[20:27] <&magnus> there's vyhd
[20:27] <&Midiman> when I go to talk to saturn he signs off aim
[20:27] <Missingno_force> wolfman2000: before deleting 3.9 completly, put in the original 3.9, or make 3.9+ official
[20:27] <@Jousway> vyhd do you also hate saturn
[20:27] <@Jousway> cuz he is gone now
[20:27] <&Midiman> hahaha dude
[20:27] <@Jousway> he is GONE
[20:27] <&vyhd> I can't respect him at all
[20:27] <&Midiman> I think vyhd despises saturn
[20:27] <@pumpervinil> ENOG
[20:27] <@Jousway> join the club vyhd
[20:27] <@DaisuMaster> gone
[20:27] <@Jousway> hi5 bro
[20:27] <+TaroNuke> rofl
[20:27] <&vyhd> oo. did he actually get banned again?
[20:27] <@wolfman2000> Missingno_force: not my place to do that
[20:27] <&magnus> yes
[20:27] <&Midiman> whereas I kinda try to at least guide saturn I think vyhd would push him off a cliff
[20:27] <@Jousway> I banned his ass
[20:27] <@wolfman2000> banned by Jousway this time
[20:27] <&vyhd> I tried guiding saturn, if you recall
[20:27] <serb> ok so nobody hates Saturn2888.
[20:27] <@wolfman2000> uh oh
[20:27] <@wolfman2000> he's about to call
[20:28] <&vyhd> that was uh, at least a year ago
[20:28] <@Jousway> aj hates him
[20:28] <&vyhd> trying to work with him made me hate him
[20:28] <&Midiman> vyhd you are so no nonsense
[20:28] <@pumpervinil> okay
[20:28] <@Jousway> I hate him
[20:28] <&Midiman> he mentions you quite a bit
[20:28] <&Midiman> it gets on my nerves
[20:28] <&Midiman> and apparently we all get mentioned behind eachothers backs with saturn
[20:28] <&magnus> vyhd is in a wonderful place
[20:28] <&magnus> called
[20:28] <&magnus> reality
[20:28] <&vyhd> mentioned how?
[20:28] <&vyhd> :V
[20:28] <&Midiman> just when he asks me who can do what
[20:29] <&Midiman> 'yo who can get me some encrypt decrypt'
[20:29] <&Midiman> im like 'aj, shake, vyhd?'
[20:29] <&Midiman> 'fff vyhd is a jerk to me'
[20:29] <&Midiman> 'oh ok'
[20:29] <@pumpervinil> to be very honest: never worked with saturn, I really don't know him as much as you guys do, so I'm really staying neutral on this
[20:29] <&vyhd> I hope he uses that driver, because it's hilariously simple
[20:29] <&Midiman> again
[20:29] <@Jousway> <&Midiman> 'fff vyhd is a jerk to me' <<< hahahahahahhahaha
[20:29] <&Midiman> I dont hate him
[20:29] <+TaroNuke> LOL
[20:29] <&Midiman> and I dont mind him
[20:29] <&vyhd> @pumpervinil: he claims to have graduated with a computer science degree
[20:29] <&Midiman> but he gets on my nerves just a little bit
[20:29] <&Midiman> JUST A LITTLE BIT
[20:29] <xat> wow guys
[20:29] <xat> lot of drama
[20:29] <+TaroNuke> all you have to do is say
[20:29] <&vyhd> he can't program, doesn't understand a computer, and you can feel his blank stare through the computer when you explain something techy
[20:29] <@Jousway> I like what happend earlier
[20:29] <serb> np: 50 Cent - Just A Lil Bit (The Massacre) [00:01 / 03:57]
[20:29] <+TaroNuke> "wait, so you're selling stepmania on steam?"
[20:29] <&Midiman> but only when I explains omething
[20:29] <&magnus> vyhd: CS? I thought he did business
[20:29] <+TaroNuke> and he explodes
[20:30] <&Midiman> xat: nah not drama, discussion
[20:30] <&vyhd> he told me he graduated with a CS degree
[20:30] <&magnus> oh dear god.
[20:30] <&vyhd> as though I was supposed to respect him more
[20:30] <@wolfman2000> ...barely
[20:30] <&magnus> so much less
[20:30] <@Jousway> Mon[04:16:34]pm <Saturn2888> Jous, you don't like me either though :P
[20:30] <@Jousway> Mon[04:21:25]pm <Jousway> but Saturn2888 I dont like you because you are you
[20:30] <@Jousway> Mon[04:21:51]pm <Saturn2888> Well that's fine
[20:30] <@Jousway> Mon[04:21:55]pm <Saturn2888> I embrace Lua though :)
[20:30] <@Jousway> Mon[04:22:39]pm <Jousway> hm let me think about that
[20:30] <@Jousway> Mon[04:22:43]pm <Jousway> nope still dont like you
[20:30] <@Jousway> Mon[04:23:38]pm <Saturn2888> ok
[20:30] <@wolfman2000> trust me on barely
[20:30] <&vyhd> that's about the time I got to hating him
[20:30] <+TaroNuke> guys
[20:30] <&vyhd> it's fuckbags like him that devalue my work in college
[20:30] <+TaroNuke> you know what the most HRNG point was
[20:30] <&vyhd> because I'm actually -working- on a degree, not bullshitting it
[20:31] <+TaroNuke> "I know I can pay off Konami too"
[20:31] <&Midiman> hahah
[20:31] <&magnus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvRt-NEuV28 I like this
[20:31] <+TaroNuke> your remember that vyhd right?
[20:31] <Missingno_force> what, KONANI?!
[20:31] <@pumpervinil> gibe license pls
[20:31] <@pumpervinil> i pay yu
[20:31] <&Midiman> yo vyhd
[20:31] <&magnus> vyhd: yeah
[20:31] <@pumpervinil> ahaeeahieauhaeiueheiauheaiueaheiauheaiueaheiauhiheai
[20:31] <&vyhd> yeah, I have that quote still in the logs somewhere
[20:31] <&magnus> I would rage
[20:31] <&Midiman> let me ask you a question
[20:31] <&magnus> so hard
[20:31] <&Midiman> do you have -any- qualms with AJ
[20:31] <&vyhd> he complains a ton about things and doesn't do anything to change them
[20:31] <&magnus> AJ's problem is his constant mood swings
[20:31] <&vyhd> but not personally
[20:31] <&Midiman> he's being silly and maintaing you hate him or some nonsense and im like ' no '
[20:31] <&magnus> and inventing problems
[20:31] <&Midiman> the arrows are stuck in his head
[20:31] <&magnus> but
[20:32] <@wolfman2000> okay, I just want one thing clarifie
[20:32] <@wolfman2000> clarified
[20:32] <&magnus> many years in stepmania will do that to a person
[20:32] <&magnus> lol
[20:32] <@wolfman2000> the breaking point was Saturn selling the service of offset adjustment to serb, right?
[20:32] <serb> ye
[20:32] <@Jousway> yes
[20:32] <&magnus> more or less yeah
[20:32] <+TaroNuke> ....?
[20:32] <&Midiman> wait what
[20:32] <&Midiman> WHAT lol
[20:32] <+TaroNuke> WHAT!?
[20:32] <&vyhd> I didn't even hear about this, but what.
[20:32] <&Midiman> hahaha what
[20:32] <&Midiman> YO IM GONNA PAY YOU
[20:32] <+TaroNuke> what???
[20:32] <@pumpervinil> WHAT!?!
[20:32] <@wolfman2000> what was wrong with that?
[20:32] <@DaisuMaster> the fuck?
[20:32] <&Midiman> TO ADJUST THESE SCREWS
[20:32] <serb> dunno
[20:32] <&Midiman> ON THIS BIKE
[20:32] <&magnus> basically saturn has a lot of resynced simfiles
[20:32] <&magnus> with fixed offsets
[20:32] <serb> Afaik he worked a lot on em
[20:32] <&Midiman> oh my god thats pretty funny
[20:32] <xat> wolfman2000: he considers it "syncing" which is a bit of a misnomer
[20:32] <&Midiman> this is the first time i've laughed about drama and stepmania
[20:33] <&vyhd> and that's why I can't respect him
[20:33] <serb> i guess it'd be a problem ~~~for you guys~~~ if he'd give me the entirety of the sm files
[20:33] <&Midiman> usually stepmania drama is stupid and not-needed
[20:33] <&Midiman> dude no-one cares if you do anything with his simfiles
[20:33] * Missingno_force munches cookies and wants some coke
[20:33] <&magnus> serb not so much
[20:33] <&magnus> we don't care about the files
[20:33] <&magnus> it's the concept
[20:33] <serb> yeah
[20:33] * @pumpervinil wants MOAR KITKATZ
[20:33] <@Jousway> people here work his ass off working years on themes and saturn want to ask money for sync files, fuck him
[20:33] <&vyhd> he can't do anything of value himself, he just bullshits until he can find someone to pay to cover his pre-sold bullshit
[20:33] <serb> making profit out of somebody else's stuff
[20:33] <&magnus> not even that
[20:33] <&magnus> as what exactly it is
[20:33] <@DaisuMaster> the fact that you have money to pay doesn't means you can have everyone doing what you want or what you don't want...
[20:33] <serb> asking 4 money
[20:33] <&magnus> simfile offsets
[20:33] <@DaisuMaster> offsets?
[20:33] <serb> ye
[20:33] <serb> i want
[20:33] <serb> Offsets.
[20:34] <serb> In my entire life i have rarely had
[20:34] <@DaisuMaster> money is not power
[20:34] <serb> Perfectly Synced Simfiles
[20:34] <@DaisuMaster> respect is
[20:34] <&magnus> playerstagestats
[20:34] <&magnus> I MEAN
[20:34] <&magnus> I hope someone gets that
[20:34] <&vyhd> and he has some money and none of my respect
[20:34] <&Midiman> ahahaha
[20:34] <&Midiman> man
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[20:34] <&vyhd> and it looks like has almost no respect elsewhere either
[20:34] <@DaisuMaster> hi cpu
[20:34] <&Midiman> I can probably strke getting the remaining $750 now
[20:34] <&vyhd> so.
[20:34] <@DaisuMaster> news: saturn banned
[20:34] <&Midiman> because it looks like he's gonna vent this somewhere
[20:34] <&magnus> if I made an SM API joke with saturn around it would go right over his head
[20:34] <cpubasic13> wait what
[20:34] <&magnus> how I know this is the right crowd now :>
[20:35] <@DaisuMaster> api?
[20:35] <&Midiman> magnus he's blessed in that regard
[20:35] <@DaisuMaster> eh
[20:35] * Jousway sets mode: +b saturn*!*@*
[20:35] <&Midiman> that he hasnt had the displeasure
[20:35] <&Midiman> of learning the innards of sm
[20:35] <&Midiman> you'd be better off learning brainfuck or something
[20:35] <&magnus> cpubasic13: saturn finally got banned
[20:35] <cpubasic13> good
[20:35] <&magnus> yeah
[20:35] <&Midiman> again
[20:35] <&Midiman> for like the 4th time
[20:35] <@Jousway> I banned his mother fucking ass
[20:35] <@DaisuMaster> 3rd
[20:35] <@DaisuMaster> oh 4th
[20:35] <@Jousway> hi5 cpubasic13
[20:35] <xat> so ultimately he may be unbanned again
[20:35] <&vyhd> I was kind of sick of him soliciting people in here, too
[20:36] <@wolfman2000> vyhd: I can confirm that you are owed money. If you want, please give me a paypal address or something so that you can be paid.
[20:36] <@Jousway> if he gets unbanned I will ban his fucking ass again
[20:36] <&vyhd> ...heh, um, sec
[20:36] <xat> well i mean
[20:36] <@DaisuMaster> I wonder if he's willing to pay for his unban :v
[20:36] <+TaroNuke> LOL
[20:36] <&Midiman> HAHAHA
[20:36] <&magnus> pay -> unban -> reban -> pay -> unban -> ...
[20:36] <&Midiman> daisu
[20:36] <cpubasic13> I don't know about you but I didn't like his whole "I'm putting it up on Steam and it will get popular this way!" attitude or whatever
[20:36] <@DaisuMaster> ?
[20:37] <@Jousway> I'll think about his unban when he pays everyone the money he owns and gives the ssc theme an honest apoligy
[20:37] <cpubasic13> wait he didn't pay anyone?
[20:37] <&magnus> putting it on steam is a solid move, but it's not an instant fix for releasing an unfinished game
[20:37] <@Jousway> ssc team*
[20:37] <&magnus> he's paid me
[20:37] <&Midiman> well
[20:37] <&magnus> for what I did
[20:37] <&Midiman> he's paid me partially
[20:37] <xat> you guys are basically letting it all out -while he's not here- so he won't get an apparently much needed reality check
[20:37] <@wolfman2000> xat: on the phone with him now
[20:37] <&Midiman> xat yeah you're right
[20:37] <@DaisuMaster> I've done job partially...
[20:37] <&magnus> xat we've told him over time anyways
[20:37] <&Midiman> but he's off aim
[20:37] <cpubasic13> oh wait it isn't finished and he wants it out?
[20:37] <&Midiman> and we've told him many times
[20:37] <&magnus> on a lot of these things
[20:37] <&vyhd> xat, I already confronted him directly several times
[20:37] <&Midiman> i've dunked the whole thing on him last time I worked with him
[20:38] <&magnus> cpubasic13: yeah he wants to release it unfinished
[20:38] <&Midiman> like
[20:38] <&magnus> that is his model
[20:38] <&vyhd> I recall wolfman telling me to keep it out of public chat
[20:38] <cpubasic13> ...
[20:38] <&Midiman> the whole jist
[20:38] <cpubasic13> that
[20:38] <@Jousway> he is proably going I DONT KNOW WAHT I DID WRONG
[20:38] <cpubasic13> that is retarded
[20:38] <&magnus> functional but not done
[20:38] <+TaroNuke> !!!
[20:38] <+TaroNuke> oh dear...
[20:38] <&magnus> he's also running out of money
[20:38] <@DaisuMaster> dlc and stuff
[20:38] <&magnus> yeah f2p + dlc
[20:38] <xat> vyhd: i know you have. that i can attest to. but pretty much it's all being let out by everyone else *now*
[20:38] <xat> wolfman2000: I don't think you can tell it straight to saturn the way everyone is talking right now
[20:38] <@pumpervinil> mas this is so fun
[20:38] <&magnus> paying for additional song packs is fine
[20:38] <&vyhd> as well as numerous times over AIM, MSN, etc
[20:38] <cpubasic13> he is trying to combine every business model into one game
[20:38] <&magnus> that is a solid model
[20:38] <@henke37> so, anyone other than me who can get the loading window branch to compile?
[20:38] <&magnus> releasing it half-assed isn't
[20:39] <&magnus> :(
[20:39] <@Jousway> wolfman2000 tell him "Fuck you, with lots of love from Jousway"
[20:39] <@wolfman2000> hang on, more messages coming
[20:39] <Akei-X7> lol jousway
[20:39] <@wolfman2000> Midiman: you at least owe Saturn an apology for false accusation on theme stealing. He didn't steal that element.
[20:40] <&Midiman> I..
[20:40] <&Midiman> I said my bad holy shit
[20:40] <@wolfman2000> he probably didn't see it
[20:40] <&Midiman> I'm sorry that I falsely accuse you of stealing
[20:40] <&vyhd> gross apologies, sure; net apologies, probably in the negatives
[20:40] <&Midiman> im surprised he didnt see it
[20:40] <&Midiman> its pretty insincere now that its being demanded, isnt it?
[20:41] <@pumpervinil> as I said before: I'll stay neutral on this
[20:41] <Missingno_force> me 2
[20:41] <@Jousway> I'm not
[20:41] <@Jousway> fuck him
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[20:41] <&vyhd> heh
[20:41] <&vyhd> yeah, I'm not trying to convince you to hate him
[20:41] <&Midiman> this is like
[20:42] <&Midiman> this is basically the ssc people venting
[20:42] <&Midiman> it is our channel after all :X
[20:42] <@pumpervinil> yup
[20:42] <&Midiman> if you dont know whats going on
[20:42] <Missingno_force> sorry to say, but theres nothing i can recall where he had been an a**hole to me, heh its yours, do what you want
[20:42] <&Midiman> BE VERY GLAD.
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[20:42] <&Midiman> again missing no
[20:42] <@Jousway> like freem is bairly in this channel cuz of people like saturn
[20:42] <&Midiman> if you dont know whats going on, be glad lmao
[20:42] <&Midiman> its not worth the trouble
[20:42] <@Jousway> like dude this is the sm-ssc channel
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[20:42] <Missingno_force> okay
[20:42] <@pumpervinil> it's just that I really never worked with him, nor do I know him as much as you guys do
[20:42] <@Jousway> sm-ssc should be the boss he not run away
[20:43] <serb> <Missingno_force> sorry to say, but theres nothing i can recall where he had been an a**hole to me, heh its yours, do what you want
[20:43] <serb> Same
[20:43] <@pumpervinil> so I really have no reason to hate him, and no reason to protect him either
[20:43] <@wolfman2000> Jousway: on the noteskins. both you and Saturn are wrong
[20:43] <@Jousway> like I left one or twice cuz of saturn
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[20:43] <@wolfman2000> Jousway si wrong on stop tweening
[20:43] <&Midiman> the fact that this is even dramatic
[20:43] <@wolfman2000> Saturn is wrong on the accusation that you can't program
[20:43] * Missingno_force gets a new package of cookies and some kitkatz for pumpervinil and a nice seat
[20:43] <&Midiman> kinda says something
[20:43] <&Midiman> doesnt it
[20:43] <shakesoda_> missed the last minute or two
[20:43] <@pumpervinil> yay thanks :D
[20:43] <shakesoda_> anything important?
[20:43] <Akei-X7> pumprvinil: me niether
[20:43] * shakesoda_ is now known as magnus
[20:43] <&Midiman> nothing
[20:43] <magnus> k
[20:43] <&Midiman> why is your name magnus now anyway
[20:43] <serb> Yo shake
[20:43] <magnus> just because
[20:43] <&vyhd> it's pretty damn awesome
[20:43] <magnus> I felt like a bit of change
[20:43] <magnus> it's also my middle name
[20:43] <magnus> so
[20:43] <@Jousway>  <@wolfman2000> Jousway si wrong on stop tweening << I dont like stop tweening but hey its easy like shit to fix, but no need for him to insult me like that
[20:43] <magnus> yeah
[20:44] <@wolfman2000> also, Jousway vs Saturn was supposed to be private apparently
[20:44] <magnus> I dunno, makes me feel like just being me
[20:44] <@wolfman2000> Jousway: do recall that I also asked that you fix it.
[20:44] <Missingno_force> magnus: really? so your name is shake magnus soda?
[20:44] <magnus> lol
[20:44] <Akei-X7> lolthat sounds cool
[20:44] <@Jousway> it wasnt only me and saturn, we talked a lot about saturn about should we ban him or not
[20:44] <xat> that sounds like a procedure for causing a soda can to explode
[20:45] <@Jousway> like havent you seen what has been said here
[20:45] <@Jousway> what everyone has been saying
[20:45] <@Jousway> for the last hour
[20:45] <@Jousway> or so
[20:45] <@wolfman2000> Jousway: hard to read everything and be a cell phone messenger at once
[20:45] <magnus> supposed to be private huh
[20:45] <magnus> yeah right.
[20:45] <magnus> this is wide open
[20:45] <@Jousway> and I dont have anything agains you wolfman2000 you're a fine lad, I just dont get it why you protect him so much
[20:45] <@wolfman2000> magnus: again, messenger
[20:46] <xat> *shrug* like i said, you can't fit the pent up frustration that's being conveyed here into a phone conversation
[20:46] <@wolfman2000> Jousway: as far as why...guess I'm too kind
[20:46] <@wolfman2000> now, I do want one other thing clarified.
[20:46] <&vyhd> statistically, your bad experience is inevitable; I hope it doesn't happen, for your sake
[20:47] <@Jousway> everyone else was getting tired of him wolfman2000 and wanted to ban him, I'm just the one that finally took action
[20:47] <&vyhd> but I was nice to him while other people were mean, and then I became sick of him
[20:47] <magnus> it's fine to be forgiving but I think enough of the people in here want him out
[20:47] <magnus> that it is more than justified.
[20:47] <@Jousway> aj wanted to ban him but didnt because he said you would unban him wolfman2000
[20:47] <@Jousway> he was saying you were against him
[20:47] <@DaisuMaster> <Missingno_force> magnus: really? so your name is shake magnus soda?
[20:47] <@DaisuMaster> oh lol
[20:47] * DaisuMaster is now known as Jesus
[20:48] <Missingno_force> Daisu ke Master
[20:48] <@Jesus> if shake can then why can't I?
[20:48] <&vyhd> +1
[20:48] <magnus> rofl
[20:48] <@wolfman2000> Jousway: about the programming insult...according to the phone call, something may have been taken out of context.
[20:48] <@Jousway> ask him for the log then
[20:48] <@Jousway> I have it right here
[20:48] <&Midiman> I like my middle name
[20:48] <&Midiman> James
[20:48] <@Jousway> I have 2 middle names
[20:48] <&Midiman> my name is like 4 good names in one
[20:48] <magnus> presumably it was about saturn and his need to remove every cmd() from the game
[20:49] <magnus> which exists to make your life easier
[20:49] <@Jesus> luac.exe ?
[20:49] <Missingno_force> Midiman: so you are midi james man
[20:49] <&Midiman> no relation
[20:49] <@pumpervinil> my middle name is so strange I wont even write it here
[20:49] <Missingno_force> and magnus: he wanted to get RID of it?
[20:49] <@pumpervinil> (it's not Ierusalimschy though)
[20:49] <magnus> Missingno_force: he always revises it out of code
[20:49] <@Jousway> and wolfman2000 isnt the fact that enough people he want him gone enough to tell you
[20:49] <Missingno_force> lol
[20:49] <magnus> :\
[20:49] <@Jousway> here*
[20:49] <magnus> and replaces things that don't need it
[20:49] <@wolfman2000> Jousway: I get that. I'm just the messagenger on the cell phone right now
[20:49] <&Midiman> lol im still laughing that he called my code bad
[20:49] <&Midiman> its so relative
[20:49] <@Jousway> k
[20:49] <Missingno_force> and he tried to get me away from it :/
[20:50] <&Midiman> code can look bad or good it just needs to work imo
[20:50] <&Midiman> making it look good is all up to you son
[20:50] <@Jesus> code should be readable
[20:50] <&vyhd> make it work, make it clean, make it fast, in that order
[20:50] <magnus> stepmania saturn support channel
[20:50] <@Jesus> obfuscation yes/no
[20:50] <magnus> best
[20:50] <magnus> @ vyhd
[20:50] <@Jesus> sssc?
[20:50] <magnus> Jesus: nop
[20:50] <Missingno_force> vhyd: and as addition: comment it for dummies like Missingno_force
[20:50] <magnus> Jesus: sm-ssc
[20:50] <@Jesus> :v
[20:50] <@Jesus> kay
[20:51] <@Jesus> this is awkward
[20:51] <@pumpervinil> obfuscation yes
[20:51] <&vyhd> good code really doesn't need comments, except for tricky stuff
[20:51] <magnus> lol
[20:51] * Jesus is now known as Shujito
[20:51] <magnus> obfuscation no
[20:51] <@Jousway> stepmania-saturn support channel
[20:51] <magnus> (imo)
[20:51] <@pumpervinil> obfuscation can be fun sometimes
[20:51] <@Shujito> so
[20:51] <&vyhd> heh, yeah
[20:51] <&Midiman> also going to be the first one to say it
[20:51] <@pumpervinil> provided it's not stupid shit like malbolge or brainfuck
[20:51] <@Shujito> obfuscation pseudo
[20:51] <&Midiman> going to be SO glad to stop working on stpemania
[20:51] <&Midiman> and something worth making
[20:51] <Missingno_force> vhyd: no but im an idiot who does not know how to program but still want to understand code, so i need them
[20:51] <@Shujito> or obfuscation semi
[20:51] <@Shujito> (yesno)
[20:51] <@pumpervinil> pseudobfuscation
[20:52] * Mai (Detrimentalis@bdnk-325a8a7e.res.rr.com) Quit (Client closed the connection)
[20:52] <&vyhd> honestly, you can't understand code without understanding how to program, at least a bit
[20:52] <Missingno_force> heh, i know. thats why im an idiot
[20:52] <Missingno_force> :D
[20:52] <&vyhd> to carry on the proud tradition of car analogies, it's like understanding how a car drives without knowing what an engine or transmission is
[20:52] <Missingno_force> yep
[20:52] <&vyhd> uh, I guess you could do it abstractly
[20:52] <@Shujito> #include <std> int main() { cout >> "sup there"; }
[20:52] * serb is now known as Serban
[20:52] <@Shujito> agh forgot to return zero...
[20:52] <Missingno_force> lol
[20:52] <Serban> test
[20:52] <Serban> Holy shit
[20:52] <Serban> huge lag
[20:52] <Serban> wtf..
[20:53] <&vyhd> you can declare void main() and most compilers will accept it, not that you really -should-
[20:53] <Missingno_force> i dunno what void is?
[20:53] <@wolfman2000> Jousway: from saturn: you collaborated on an IM conversation. You posted this without his consent.
[20:53] <Missingno_force> err -?
[20:53] <@Shujito> void is uh
[20:53] <@Shujito> functions returning nothing
[20:53] <&vyhd> the internet is a one-party-consent state, sorry to say
[20:53] <&vyhd> void declares an absence of type
[20:53] <Missingno_force> aha
[20:54] <&vyhd> you ask a function, "what are you, an int or a struct?" and it says "no"
[20:54] <&vyhd> actually that probably doesn't help :V
[20:54] <Missingno_force> like: local function dumbass return dumbass end?
[20:54] <@wolfman2000> despite vyhd's one-party-consent rule, Jousway may have posted that conversation in public when it was supposed to be public without asking Saturn.
[20:54] <@wolfman2000> supposed to be private*
[20:55] <&vyhd> not "vyhd's rule", it's more a statement of fact
[20:55] <@Jousway> wolfman2000 I dont give a bat shit about it he insulted me, end of story
[20:55] <@Jousway> you wanted proof
[20:55] <@Jousway> you asked me for it and now I get it on me
[20:55] <@Jousway> really nice wolfman2000
[20:55] <&vyhd> anyway, I'm gonna get some cereal
[20:55] <Missingno_force> go get it vhyd
[20:55] <&vyhd> why do you keep misspelling my name, it's right there :<
[20:55] <@Shujito> /del breakfast.sys
[20:56] <Missingno_force> gaaah, vyhd
[20:56] <@wolfman2000> So I did Jousway. Just...were you ever nice to him? Answer that please.
[20:56] <@Shujito> cereal port crashes
[20:56] <@Jousway> yes I was
[20:56] <&Midiman> what I wanna know is why isnt he on aim
[20:56] <@Jousway> I'm always nice to people in the start
[20:56] <@Jousway> I give them 3 major chances
[20:56] <Missingno_force> shujito: god stop it. im rofling right now
[20:56] <Serban> Midiman: He's angry
[20:56] <@Jousway> he screwed them all up
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[20:56] <@Shujito> dhoho
[20:56] <xat> fuck yeah we had a chill conversation about online music games just earlier this morning
[20:56] <@Shujito> I still remember when...
[20:56] <@Shujito> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dho
[20:57] <Missingno_force> lol
[20:57] <@Jousway> from all the people I hand around with daily, from all the people in Otakusdream, Keybeatonline, FlashFlashRevolution ,there are only 2 people that got that far to piss me off and thats ddrxero64 and saturn2888
[20:57] <@Jousway> it takes a lot to piss me off and they did it
[20:57] <&Midiman> im so glad I didnt mess with xero
[20:58] <@wolfman2000> shakesoda: please respond to saturn on skype.
[20:58] <Serban> Who is ddrxero
[20:58] <&Midiman> like I said
[20:58] <&Midiman> alot of these people in the community are ass
[20:58] <&Midiman> I have more fun talking to the sweat dude at the anime convention
[20:58] <+TaroNuke> Serban: I'd also like to know
[20:58] <&Midiman> than talking to some people from this community
[20:58] <&Midiman> TaroNuke admin of smonline.eu
[20:58] <Serban> Midiman: Bad.
[20:58] <@Jousway> ddrxero is a admin on stepmania.com that got trolled away from forums because he just iritates people a lot
[20:58] <Serban> ROFL
[20:58] <Serban> SMONLINE
[20:58] <@Jousway> stepmaniaonline*
[20:58] <Serban> :))))))))))))))))
[20:58] <&Midiman> he wanted to have aj work with him for a new client for sm5/ssc
[20:59] <@Shujito> wat, admin?
[20:59] <&Midiman> and he didnt want to consult the whole team
[20:59] <@Shujito> omg
[20:59] <&Midiman> so he basically got -axed- from being talked to
[20:59] <+TaroNuke> wow
[20:59] <&Midiman> then he went around the stepmania community being an arse
[20:59] <+TaroNuke> why woud you even
[20:59] <&Midiman> talking about weird things he didnt know anything about
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[20:59] <&Midiman> dude TaroNuke it was the funniest thing i've seen in my life
[20:59] <&Midiman> ( on the internet )
[20:59] <&Midiman> that wasnt a viral video
[20:59] <+TaroNuke> LOL
[20:59] <+TaroNuke> fair enough
[20:59] <@Jousway> ddrxero has insulted me more than 20 times and is just really anoying even tough I tried to talk with him more than one time
[21:00] <&Midiman> huh
[21:00] <&Midiman> we went from saturn to xero
[21:00] <&Midiman> i miss arch0wl :\
[21:00] <@Jousway> like in the past he made me an modrator on stepmaniaonline because I helped him all the time
[21:00] <@Jousway> but he batshitted over me
[21:00] <Serban> Midiman:
[21:00] <@Jousway> he fucked me
[21:00] <Akei-X7> Jousway don't take s*** from no one
[21:00] <@Jousway> so fuck him
[21:00] <+TaroNuke> rofl jous
[21:00] <&Midiman> HAHAHAHA
[21:00] <Serban> Why do people hate Arch0wl?
[21:00] <&Midiman> the context
[21:00] <&Midiman> 'he fucked me'
[21:00] <@Shujito> Jousway: not lit I hope :x
[21:00] <Akei-X7> and I respect that
[21:00] <&Midiman> people hate arch0wl because I dont know
[21:00] <+TaroNuke> sounds legit
[21:00] <&Midiman> he's really fun to talk to
[21:00] <Serban> oh ok
[21:00] <@Jousway> do not fuck with me