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- [2012-01-23 00:05:18] <Arkeus> mmh, so, is anyone willing to talk about whether we want to stay in Brazil longer if we can't get to istanbul within the next handful of hours?
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- [2012-01-23 00:20:03] <Bob> From the makers of Dynasty Warriors, Samurai Warriors, and Dynasty Gundam Warriors-a One Piece beat-em up. I... actually think they have a good shot here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uA-7MLpIwF4
- [2012-01-23 00:20:04] <Classhole> Bob: One Piece: Kaizoku Musou - PV 02 - length 2m 46s - rated 4.82/5.0 (65) - 311 views - SCRAWLfx on 2012.01.23
- [2012-01-23 00:21:50] <Arkeus> I want a Hisoka beat them all
- [2012-01-23 00:22:39] <Bob> I would also like an HxH beat-em-up in this vein.
- [2012-01-23 00:22:42] <Arkeus> ...... thazt video actually sounds decent
- [2012-01-23 00:22:54] <Arkeus> looks, i mean
- [2012-01-23 00:25:21] <Arkeus> reboot
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- [2012-01-23 00:34:16] <Ironybot> Interesting that Duke called it weasel wine instead of spirit wine. We hadn't mentioned what specific kind of spirit wine it was; did he detect Sake's nature and deduce from that what kind of wine it was, is there only the one kind, or something else?
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- [2012-01-23 00:40:59] <Abeo> I, for one, feel like ditching Brazil entirely
- [2012-01-23 00:41:35] <Ironybot> Why?
- [2012-01-23 00:41:37] <Abeo> Any time spent here is time spent not killing Doony.
- [2012-01-23 00:42:17] <Ironybot> I concede that killing the Doonongaes is a high priority- but that said, there is power to be gained here and skills to be practiced.
- [2012-01-23 00:42:24] <Abeo> I am also uncomfortable operating in AORB territory more than absolutely necessary.
- [2012-01-23 00:42:45] <Ironybot> It's been made clear that AORB doesn't exactly see everything that's happening around here.
- [2012-01-23 00:43:24] <Abeo> All the more reason to leave before we attract their attention
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- [2012-01-23 00:43:58] <Ironybot> I don't think we're going to attract their attention unless we start rampantly murdering people in populated areas or using high-level magic.
- [2012-01-23 00:44:04] <Ironybot> High-level in terms of power
- [2012-01-23 00:44:12] <Ironybot> Which we can't even access.
- [2012-01-23 00:44:23] <Arkeus> ok, Ironybot, lost name of your chat
- [2012-01-23 00:44:35] <Arkeus> Also, can you send me logs since i left?
- [2012-01-23 00:44:46] <Ironybot> #unseenprophets. Not a lot going on in there, though; we're mostly to bed
- [2012-01-23 00:45:01] <Arkeus> just pm me the couple of sentences
- [2012-01-23 00:45:07] <Arkeus> oh, i mean in gfh
- [2012-01-23 00:45:08] <Arkeus> :p
- [2012-01-23 00:45:12] <Arkeus> meant
- [2012-01-23 00:46:22] <Arkeus> Well, Ironybot, Duke CAN access high-level abilities
- [2012-01-23 00:47:04] <Ironybot> True. But he's going to be the one drawing AORB attention, then, not us.
- [2012-01-23 00:47:05] <Abeo> Oh man.
- [2012-01-23 00:47:12] <Abeo> Duke meeting Einrik.
- [2012-01-23 00:47:37] <Ironybot> We could probably manipulate Duke into attacking AORB and getting himself killed, thereby covering our tracks. If we were a total dick.
- [2012-01-23 00:47:44] <Abeo> Duke seems pretty intent on following us around. So attention he attracts is attention we have to deal with one way or another
- [2012-01-23 00:47:51] <Abeo> Or that.
- [2012-01-23 00:48:22] <Arkeus> I think Duke is worth enough to us (and a lot of other people) that we better not 'kill' him that way
- [2012-01-23 00:48:31] <Ironybot> Heh.
- [2012-01-23 00:48:51] <Arkeus> bob: i was wondering a couple of minutes ago. 'Judas' is strongest mortal, but is he 'best mortal at magic'?
- [2012-01-23 00:51:22] <Abeo> Another reason I want to leave Brazil sooner than later is the Duke is probably pretty distractable. Like, moreso than us because he currently has no commitments of any sort.
- [2012-01-23 00:51:34] <Ironybot> And this is a bad thing why?
- [2012-01-23 00:51:50] <Ironybot> If he gets distracted he goes away, hopefully.
- [2012-01-23 00:51:53] <Arkeus> If Duke is getting distracted, it's a good excuse for us to leave him
- [2012-01-23 00:52:06] <Abeo> And we can't reliably control his actions. So one thing can lead to another and before you know it, we're here for a week
- [2012-01-23 00:52:32] <Arkeus> If we want to stay for a week, we can
- [2012-01-23 00:52:53] <Arkeus> The thing i want to is get to our meeting though, and learn chakra stuff from lo fang
- [2012-01-23 00:52:57] <Abeo> When was teh deadline for doony? Early feb?
- [2012-01-23 00:53:06] <Arkeus> however, iexpect that staying in brazil could net us some REALLY nice stuff
- [2012-01-23 00:53:12] <Abeo> Like what?
- [2012-01-23 00:53:12] <Arkeus> and some nice tutelage too
- [2012-01-23 00:53:13] <Ironybot> I would like to be back in Istanbul within the next three days or so.
- [2012-01-23 00:53:17] <Ironybot> That said, three says is a while.
- [2012-01-23 00:53:20] <Arkeus> So i am NOT that worried
- [2012-01-23 00:53:30] <Abeo> we're full up on artifacts, our bloodline is complete
- [2012-01-23 00:53:30] <Arkeus> Ironybot: why three days?
- [2012-01-23 00:53:34] <Abeo> what we really need is training
- [2012-01-23 00:53:48] <Arkeus> Yeah, and we also need alone time
- [2012-01-23 00:53:53] <Abeo> Long-term tutoring
- [2012-01-23 00:53:59] <Arkeus> I wonder if Duke can offer training in chakra
- [2012-01-23 00:54:03] <Ironybot> Should be long enough to get a solid handle on at least one soul guise and leave us with enough time to get back and call in double training from Lo Fang.
- [2012-01-23 00:54:16] <Ironybot> I don't think Duke would have the patience for that kind of shit.
- [2012-01-23 00:54:21] <Arkeus> true
- [2012-01-23 00:54:44] <Arkeus> Also, yeah, 3 days sounds good. I am just saying that bob will most likely get us into stuff that may interest us for more than that
- [2012-01-23 00:54:56] <BUTTZ> Arkeus I put your minion into the template we're all using, since the old template would fuck up
- [2012-01-23 00:55:03] <Arkeus> Also, yeah, having the 'normal' soul guise be perfected is needed
- [2012-01-23 00:55:05] <BUTTZ> Also I don't know what jobs he went on
- [2012-01-23 00:55:09] <Arkeus> As well as a couple of others
- [2012-01-23 00:55:20] <Arkeus> I also think we should orchastrate a spiritual accident
- [2012-01-23 00:55:23] <Bob> http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17454210/images/1325957206828.jpg
- [2012-01-23 00:55:32] <Arkeus> so we can tell people, in advance, that our soul was damaed
- [2012-01-23 00:56:01] <Arkeus> Hence why the ones who have seen our soul will have an "exuse" to believe the "lessened" one is ture
- [2012-01-23 00:56:04] <Abeo> Don't think that's necessary, strictly speaking
- [2012-01-23 00:56:16] <Arkeus> BUTTZ: yeah i saw that, thanks
- [2012-01-23 00:56:22] <Arkeus> i got the worthless level up!
- [2012-01-23 00:56:30] <Arkeus> And, yeah, i was on the Triad mission
- [2012-01-23 00:56:34] <BUTTZ> That's the default title!
- [2012-01-23 00:56:49] <Ironybot> Ah, hell.
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- [2012-01-23 00:57:25] <Ironybot> Teresina is like three thousand klicks from where we are, at a guess.
- [2012-01-23 00:57:34] <Bob> Also, on reading spiredquest I want to run a 'thinking bugs' campaign again-but wholly no magic. You pick a species of housespider, and play it, dealy.
- [2012-01-23 00:57:43] <Bob> spider, not spired
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- [2012-01-23 00:58:06] <Arkeus> i hate being DC'd
- [2012-01-23 00:58:46] <Bob> The real question though, is were one's mind to be placed in a house spider body, which one would be ideal?
- [2012-01-23 00:58:59] <Abeo> Biggest spider is best spider
- [2012-01-23 00:59:12] <Bob> While jumpingspiders have the best site and mobility, they are crap webspinners. And jumpingspiders are small, and thus harder to spot.
- [2012-01-23 00:59:17] <BUTTZ> We'd want something that lived awhile
- [2012-01-23 00:59:51] <Ironybot> Yeah, longevity is key.
- [2012-01-23 00:59:53] <Abeo> Jumpingspider, we eat larger, web-spinning spiders.
- [2012-01-23 01:00:17] <Arkeus> We are talking baout Armas getting a spider?
- [2012-01-23 01:00:17] <Ironybot> Anyway. Guys. Going to the Teresina airport is going to require moving through three thousand kilometers of jungle.
- [2012-01-23 01:00:28] <Abeo> Yeah?
- [2012-01-23 01:00:30] <Arkeus> ...seriously?
- [2012-01-23 01:00:39] <Ironybot> Well, like two thousand kilometers of jungle and a thousand kilometers of other.
- [2012-01-23 01:00:45] <BUTTZ> We can hump it
- [2012-01-23 01:00:47] <Arkeus> Yeah, this is bulshit.
- [2012-01-23 01:00:54] <BUTTZ> Or we could steal a car
- [2012-01-23 01:01:04] <Arkeus> We need to get Granny Old Stomp to get us away fast
- [2012-01-23 01:01:05] <BUTTZ> Wait, no steal a boat!
- [2012-01-23 01:01:05] <Ironybot> You can't use a car in the Amazon, really.
- [2012-01-23 01:01:13] <Arkeus> SB can't get Duke anywhere, i am sure
- [2012-01-23 01:01:15] <Ironybot> Stealing a boat could be cool.
- [2012-01-23 01:01:16] <Arkeus> too damn powerful
- [2012-01-23 01:01:17] <BUTTZ> Sure you can, you just won't get anywhere
- [2012-01-23 01:01:24] <Arkeus> mmmh
- [2012-01-23 01:01:26] <Arkeus> Boat
- [2012-01-23 01:01:28] <Arkeus> not a bad idea
- [2012-01-23 01:01:31] <Arkeus> but..AORB
- [2012-01-23 01:01:42] <Ironybot> AORB probably doesn't closely monitor every little boat.
- [2012-01-23 01:01:42] <Arkeus> Maybe we can do that walk on water trick
- [2012-01-23 01:01:47] <BUTTZ> I bet AORB surfs
- [2012-01-23 01:01:56] <Ironybot> Which walk on water trick is this?
- [2012-01-23 01:02:06] <Arkeus> The one where we run to europe
- [2012-01-23 01:02:12] <Ironybot> ...
- [2012-01-23 01:02:16] <Abeo> We could almost certainly secure transportation at that smuggler's cove place
- [2012-01-23 01:02:18] <Arkeus> ;p
- [2012-01-23 01:02:19] <Ironybot> That is way more than three thousand kilometers.
- [2012-01-23 01:02:42] <Arkeus> More seriously, getting Granny Old Stomp to get us away sems like a good idea
- [2012-01-23 01:02:49] <Arkeus> or call thrompton and ask for help
- [2012-01-23 01:02:53] <Abeo> Duke might enjoy a motorized boat ride
- [2012-01-23 01:02:54] <BUTTZ> I wonder what she'll want for it?
- [2012-01-23 01:03:03] <Arkeus> he seems to know a quick way to get away
- [2012-01-23 01:03:19] <BUTTZ> He knows how to run away
- [2012-01-23 01:03:38] <Arkeus> I wonder if we could get those utarc people to lend us a heli
- [2012-01-23 01:03:40] <Arkeus> or something
- [2012-01-23 01:03:47] <Abeo> Here's a question: how much of this tale, if any of it, do we want to sell to SM?
- [2012-01-23 01:03:48] <BUTTZ> He might be planning on spending two weeks getting to an airport
- [2012-01-23 01:04:00] <Arkeus> Abeo: none
- [2012-01-23 01:04:02] <BUTTZ> None of it, we want nothing to do with AORB
- [2012-01-23 01:04:20] <Arkeus> what i want is to be able to say to SM and others that we had a accient and our soul was injured
- [2012-01-23 01:04:34] <Abeo> I don't think that's really necessary
- [2012-01-23 01:04:36] <Bob> Boating back to Istanbul would allow for maximal socialization with Li Kui-and would give you time to turn from him telling tales and such to potentially telling you practical stuff about why he's so fucktarded strong
- [2012-01-23 01:04:36] <Arkeus> So that we can imply that our bloodline being 'lessened' is true
- [2012-01-23 01:04:40] <Ironybot> Why should we justify our soul's new appearance at all?
- [2012-01-23 01:04:52] <Abeo> our soul has changed composition like a bajillion times already
- [2012-01-23 01:05:00] <Arkeus> Ironybot: if someone knows what our soul SHOULD look like, soul guises don't work
- [2012-01-23 01:05:01] <Arkeus> iirc
- [2012-01-23 01:05:05] <Abeo> At this point I'm pretty sure nobody gives a shit anymore
- [2012-01-23 01:05:09] <Arkeus> or maybe i misunderstood
- [2012-01-23 01:05:24] <Ironybot> Your soul shifts its appearance every couple weeks anyway, more changes are unsurprising.
- [2012-01-23 01:05:33] <Ironybot> Our soul.
- [2012-01-23 01:05:35] <Ironybot> Excuse me.
- [2012-01-23 01:05:37] <Arkeus> Heh, that's true
- [2012-01-23 01:05:42] <Arkeus> Armas had some weird shifts
- [2012-01-23 01:05:58] <Abeo> They have to suspect we are masking our soul to see through the guise
- [2012-01-23 01:06:07] <Arkeus> not just suspect
- [2012-01-23 01:06:13] <Abeo> like, strongly suspect, bordering on absolute knowledge
- [2012-01-23 01:06:15] <Arkeus> they have to know what our soul should look like
- [2012-01-23 01:06:50] <Abeo> Uh, no. In that case it would be virtually impenetrable
- [2012-01-23 01:06:53] <Ironybot> Normal soul, then it goes divine, then we chop it in half, then we get a more powerful blank bloodline, then we do a crazy rite, then finish the crazy rite, what ridiculous thing will we do to warp our spirit next?
- [2012-01-23 01:06:56] <Arkeus> So, yeah, if we take a bit we should be able to get a couple of guises semi-perfected
- [2012-01-23 01:07:04] <Ironybot> People are probably taking bets.
- [2012-01-23 01:07:11] <Abeo> To people who haven't seen our soul already, anyway
- [2012-01-23 01:07:23] <Arkeus> <Abeo> Uh, no. In that case it would be virtually impenetrable <= it is virutally impenetrable if we don't mess up
- [2012-01-23 01:07:47] <Abeo> Yes, but not for the reason you stated.
- [2012-01-23 01:07:50] <Arkeus> the problem is if they KNOW something is up, ANd what your soul should be like
- [2012-01-23 01:08:04] <Abeo> I don't believe that second criteria exists
- [2012-01-23 01:09:06] <BUTTZ> http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1327299252466.gif
- [2012-01-23 01:09:23] <Ironybot> Anyway. The "get a boat" plan could give us Encantado problems, but we have Duke with us and he's a badass so screw it.
- [2012-01-23 01:09:45] <BUTTZ> We'd get to eat some Encantado!
- [2012-01-23 01:10:12] <Abeo> I heartily approve of any and all eating of shape-shifters of any variety
- [2012-01-23 01:10:13] <Ironybot> I hear they're delicious. I wonder how Duke feels about eating sapient magical cirtters.
- [2012-01-23 01:10:26] <Ironybot> Probably all in favor, given his total boredom and hedonism.
- [2012-01-23 01:10:33] <Abeo> Probs
- [2012-01-23 01:10:49] <Abeo> I am really curious as to how Einrik and Duke would get along
- [2012-01-23 01:11:24] <BUTTZ> Duke might try to find out what color Einrik's balls are
- [2012-01-23 01:11:42] <Abeo> It'd be funny if they were blue
- [2012-01-23 01:11:52] <BUTTZ> Bob said they were
- [2012-01-23 01:11:57] <Abeo> Excellent
- [2012-01-23 01:12:34] <Abeo> Man, Encantado are no threat to us anymore are they? Like, normal ones. Not crazy super mega powerful ones
- [2012-01-23 01:14:25] <Bob> Encantado count as: 'regenerator:mild', 'shapeshifter:moderate', 'Summer Court Energy:minor-to-moderate', 'Water/Blood manipulation:mid-to-high', if one can properly eat their flesh.
- [2012-01-23 01:14:27] <Ironybot> Never underestimate an aquakinetic if you're on the water.
- [2012-01-23 01:14:33] <Bob> But you'd need to not just be a cannibal
- [2012-01-23 01:14:45] <Bob> but you'd ALSO have to be at least somewhat Divine, due to their origin.
- [2012-01-23 01:14:51] <Bob> Oh wait.
- [2012-01-23 01:15:07] <Ironybot> Omnom/.
- [2012-01-23 01:15:35] <BUTTZ> <Ironybot>Never underestimate an aquakinetic if you're on the water.
- [2012-01-23 01:15:43] <BUTTZ> They're fragile but hit hard
- [2012-01-23 01:16:03] <Arkeus> [12-01-2012 | 05:48:46] <Bob> answer is: without someone or something to give them a genuine, honest reason to think your soul is deception-not just a suspicion of it, but a dude going 'that fuck's soul is DEFINITELY FAKE, and should be something like......', then no, they could not.
- [2012-01-23 01:16:03] <Arkeus> <= for Abeo
- [2012-01-23 01:16:05] <Bob> A regular encantado could still kill you if you were in open water with no other resources save your shadow-and hell, sake and the bird. If you didn't have a place to be, they know enough water magics that tackle the problem of 'I'm in my element, but foe is floating over it' since that comes up all the time.
- [2012-01-23 01:16:26] <Bob> Think about what a water-breathing water manipulator that lives in the water can do-when in said water
- [2012-01-23 01:16:40] <Bob> They could be shitty at water manipulation-and it won't REALLY matter.
- [2012-01-23 01:17:04] <BUTTZ> It'd be like Giagia trying to fight someone in a slaughter house
- [2012-01-23 01:17:24] <Samar> Giagia is external flesh manip?
- [2012-01-23 01:17:29] <Bob> He can indeed
- [2012-01-23 01:17:34] <Arkeus> Gianni is at least external
- [2012-01-23 01:17:35] <Bob> a slaughterhouse is his friend
- [2012-01-23 01:17:44] <Arkeus> he seems to have some minor internal ability too
- [2012-01-23 01:17:54] <Ironybot> If we were in open water with our posse and no other resources... well, Sake could fly us up into the air for as long as his power held out.
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- [2012-01-23 01:18:08] <Ironybot> Tough to kill us that way. Not sure how long he could handle it, though.
- [2012-01-23 01:18:48] <Arkeus> If we were in the water with SB, and SB has one of his shadows in istanbul, he could possibly shdowport us there
- [2012-01-23 01:18:49] <Bob> I was commenting how Encantado know immense amounts of ways to pull people back down-attacking the water of one's body, building nets out of condensation, making pressure waves through long-term manipulation of cloud moisture-all sorts of shit.
- [2012-01-23 01:19:22] <Bob> if an Encantado is in the water, and there isn't really 'land' to worry about, and thus you can't really touch down somewhere-then you have a problem.
- [2012-01-23 01:19:31] <Arkeus> Huh, so being on a boat is kinda not good when you are against encantado
- [2012-01-23 01:19:43] <Bob> It's entirely reliant on boat size
- [2012-01-23 01:19:46] <Arkeus> if the boat is flimsy, i mean
- [2012-01-23 01:19:48] <Arkeus> yeah
- [2012-01-23 01:19:55] <Bob> correct, flimsy boat is worthless.
- [2012-01-23 01:19:57] <BUTTZ> Unless it's a giant boat made of metal populated by vampires
- [2012-01-23 01:20:05] <BUTTZ> And armed with vintage WW2 weapons
- [2012-01-23 01:20:10] <BUTTZ> Stolen from Mexico
- [2012-01-23 01:20:13] <Bob> That would deter even the most determined encantado
- [2012-01-23 01:20:16] <Arkeus> no BUTTZ
- [2012-01-23 01:20:18] <Arkeus> just no
- [2012-01-23 01:20:21] <BUTTZ> Yes
- [2012-01-23 01:20:23] <Ironybot> Mmm. Maybe the hummingbird could do a bullet-into-water thing faster than the encantado could react, if they weren't expecting it and thus got near the surface.
- [2012-01-23 01:20:26] <Bob> speaking of which Li Kui would help you in a fucking heartbeat
- [2012-01-23 01:20:27] <BUTTZ> We're going to steal that thing and retrofit it
- [2012-01-23 01:20:41] <Bob> and would be willing to make a big scen in the cove getting crew to help
- [2012-01-23 01:20:41] <Ironybot> Wouldn't want to bet our lives on it, though.
- [2012-01-23 01:21:06] <Arkeus> AORB probably wouldn't like it
- [2012-01-23 01:21:10] <Arkeus> But... So damn tempting
- [2012-01-23 01:21:16] <Ironybot> Why would AORB care?
- [2012-01-23 01:21:16] <Bob> the smuggling/slaver/drugrunning cove
- [2012-01-23 01:21:20] <BUTTZ> It's an old WW2 destroyer that's not being used at all
- [2012-01-23 01:21:24] <Arkeus> And the stupid rights to brag about to Camella
- [2012-01-23 01:21:36] <BUTTZ> It's scheduled to be turned into scrap, AORB won't give a shit as long as we don't bring it back
- [2012-01-23 01:21:39] <Arkeus> Slavers?
- [2012-01-23 01:21:41] * Arkeus is not happy
- [2012-01-23 01:21:42] <Bob> And just THINK how in character it is for Armas to do it.
- [2012-01-23 01:21:49] <Arkeus> Very
- [2012-01-23 01:21:51] <Bob> slavers and cannibals
- [2012-01-23 01:21:53] <Abeo> If there's child slaves?
- [2012-01-23 01:21:55] <Arkeus> But i wanted to return quickly
- [2012-01-23 01:21:57] <Arkeus> Dammit bob
- [2012-01-23 01:22:02] <Sunnyside> where the hell would we dock it though?
- [2012-01-23 01:22:07] <Abeo> Triad
- [2012-01-23 01:22:11] <BUTTZ> All bets are off if we start cruising around outside New York or something, but if we're outside their purview they won't care
- [2012-01-23 01:22:11] <Arkeus> Jessica already played the meeting with Riker's guy, didn't she?
- [2012-01-23 01:22:45] <Abeo> Imagine just cruising up to the Triad base in the boat?
- [2012-01-23 01:22:46] <Bob> No, actually, just in case you randomly devote a shit ton of resources to getting back stupid fast.
- [2012-01-23 01:22:58] <BUTTZ> We've been trying!
- [2012-01-23 01:23:01] <Arkeus> It would really be a shit ton?
- [2012-01-23 01:23:21] <BUTTZ> We could always charter a jet
- [2012-01-23 01:23:30] <Abeo> I'd imagine convincing entities to do transcontinental teleports under AORB's nose is qutie expensive, yes
- [2012-01-23 01:23:32] <Arkeus> Not fast enough
- [2012-01-23 01:23:38] <Ironybot> At a guess, Stomp has the resources to teleport us home for a few thousand dollars.
- [2012-01-23 01:23:45] <BUTTZ> Few thousand?
- [2012-01-23 01:23:50] <Arkeus> Abeo: we would just need to get out of Sout America
- [2012-01-23 01:23:55] <Arkeus> then we can contact OG
- [2012-01-23 01:23:55] <BUTTZ> Maybe more like a few hundred
- [2012-01-23 01:23:58] <BUTTZ> thousands
- [2012-01-23 01:24:02] <Arkeus> and try to sell to him the idea of teleproting us out
- [2012-01-23 01:24:05] <Abeo> Og isn't going to teleport us home
- [2012-01-23 01:24:05] <Ironybot> Why would it be that expensive?
- [2012-01-23 01:24:08] <Abeo> he's an asshole
- [2012-01-23 01:24:16] <BUTTZ> Arkeus we need to get out of the Americas
- [2012-01-23 01:24:27] <Arkeus> Ironybot, you do tend to think 'cheap' when it comes to prices
- [2012-01-23 01:24:31] <Abeo> I don't think AORB likes supernaturals teleporting in and out of their territory
- [2012-01-23 01:24:33] <BUTTZ> So unless you're planning on going to Antartica, we're going on a sea trip!
- [2012-01-23 01:24:35] <Ironybot> It seems to me that she's likely to have a license from AORB to provide guild members with transit.
- [2012-01-23 01:24:46] <Arkeus> i mean, you kinda thought that Johann would teach us stuff about demon lore for a few thousand dolars
- [2012-01-23 01:24:54] <Arkeus> when i suspect it would be a few millions
- [2012-01-23 01:25:07] <Abeo> He likes us, he'd probably do it for 100k
- [2012-01-23 01:25:22] <Abeo> Possibly cheaper
- [2012-01-23 01:25:41] <Abeo> Unless we're asking him to teach us actual magic instead of just thre lore
- [2012-01-23 01:25:50] <Ironybot> Consider the amount of time it takes him to make a specialist gun or bullet, and then the amount that he gets paid for that.
- [2012-01-23 01:26:11] <Ironybot> Ever if we pay him ten times as much on a per-hour basis we're STILL not going to go over a few thousand bucks for some lessons.
- [2012-01-23 01:26:12] <Arkeus> Knowledge is quite prized, though
- [2012-01-23 01:26:29] <Ironybot> Depends on the buyer and seller. A demonologist is not a goblin.
- [2012-01-23 01:26:50] <Arkeus> Demonologists are *rare*, from my understanding
- [2012-01-23 01:26:55] <Ironybot> And we're not asking for exclusive, secret crap, just general tips.
- [2012-01-23 01:26:59] <Arkeus> i don't know, no reason not to try
- [2012-01-23 01:26:59] <BUTTZ> Also there's the "I told you outright that you learned pretty much everything you need to know to deal with demons by dealing with the goblins, why are you bugging me?" surcharge
- [2012-01-23 01:27:11] <Arkeus> but i suspect the figure will not go lower than a couple of millions
- [2012-01-23 01:27:12] <Abeo> I'd imagine demonologists are quite a bit more selective with the info they sell than goblins
- [2012-01-23 01:27:13] <BUTTZ> I expect that particular item will be fairly hefty
- [2012-01-23 01:27:47] <Arkeus> Anyway, going to nap
- [2012-01-23 01:27:48] <Arkeus> laters
- [2012-01-23 01:27:54] <Arkeus> have fun folks and folkettes
- [2012-01-23 01:28:24] <Arkeus> Try to either come up with a plan to getback to istanbul quickly, or get that submarine
- [2012-01-23 01:28:35] <Arkeus> If we do, we could set up an orphanage in it
- [2012-01-23 01:28:41] <Abeo> I think heading to the smuggler's cove is the most logical course of action for Armas, at the moment
- [2012-01-23 01:28:47] <BUTTZ> A submarine orphanage?
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- [2012-01-23 01:29:06] <Abeo> Only if we paint it yellow
- [2012-01-23 01:32:29] <Abeo> But yeah, whether it is to aquire transport to an airport or some more direct means of travel, the smugglers are the likely choice
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- [2012-01-23 01:51:30] <BUTTZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ONJfp95yoE&feature=fvwrel
- [2012-01-23 01:51:31] <Classhole> BUTTZ: テルミンを演奏するネコ cat plays with a teremin - length 36s - rated 4.74/5.0 (15237) - 6267015 views - blancbonn on 2007.10.29
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- [2012-01-23 06:41:14] <Wutenheimer> http://www.iaza.com/work/120123C/iaza12050616249200.jpg
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- [2012-01-23 09:10:55] <Falconis> real quiet this morning
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- [2012-01-23 11:34:12] <Falconis> hey it's tt
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- [2012-01-23 11:47:36] <Bob> http://images.4chan.org/a/src/1327340203844.png
- [2012-01-23 11:48:26] <Arkeus> FFF
- [2012-01-23 11:48:49] <Arkeus> let's reboot
- [2012-01-23 11:48:53] <Bob> Look at that glare
- [2012-01-23 11:48:56] <Bob> And have fuuun
- [2012-01-23 11:49:03] * Arkeus kills mean bob
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- [2012-01-23 12:21:28] * Arkeus dissects people randomly
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- [2012-01-23 12:29:37] <Bob> A 2000 year old seed found at an archaeological site in Japan was planted. Ten years later it bloomed. By this, you can take that ancient seeds are viable for gardening in GfH, and presumably would have fun within them.
- [2012-01-23 12:32:48] <Falconis> cool
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- [2012-01-23 12:37:00] <Arkeus> ok, last reboot before my head explodes
- [2012-01-23 12:37:36] <Arkeus> http://images.4chan.org/a/src/1327343547500.jpg also, japan
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- [2012-01-23 12:44:42] <Falconis> >that picture
- [2012-01-23 12:44:51] * Falconis facepalms
- [2012-01-23 12:45:06] <Ironybot> This is how clueless supernaturals are with modern technology.
- [2012-01-23 12:45:25] <Ironybot> That being unable to learn normally shit really hurts.
- [2012-01-23 12:45:39] <Falconis> that has nothing to do with modern technology
- [2012-01-23 12:45:50] <Falconis> that's just plain stupid
- [2012-01-23 12:46:20] <Ironybot> Arguably, it's plain stupid because she's fundamentally unable to figure out how the phone is supposed to work without having it explained to her deliberately.
- [2012-01-23 12:46:32] <Arkeus> What?
- [2012-01-23 12:46:32] <Ironybot> (Alternately, it's Japan.)
- [2012-01-23 12:46:36] <Arkeus> didn't she get it right the first time?
- [2012-01-23 12:46:47] <Arkeus> but she somehow is supposed to hear it without ears?
- [2012-01-23 12:46:52] <Falconis> she got it right in a stupid way
- [2012-01-23 12:47:01] <Arkeus> How is it stupid?
- [2012-01-23 12:47:31] <Falconis> because when she holds it like that she can't talk in it at the same time
- [2012-01-23 12:47:37] <Arkeus> Of course she can
- [2012-01-23 12:49:26] <Falconis> The receiver...is above eye level
- [2012-01-23 12:49:34] <Falconis> unless that is a badass phone
- [2012-01-23 12:49:54] <Falconis> meh
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- [2012-01-23 12:51:53] <Bob> Also, humans with animal ears on their heads like some of the Japanese thingamajiggers? That DOES give them amazing hearing, in the range of passive sonar, from doubling up on sound input points.
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- [2012-01-23 12:52:11] <Bob> 'humans' being used here to describe humanoid beings, not actual humans.
- [2012-01-23 12:52:17] <Ironybot> I knew anything that silly had to have a purpose.
- [2012-01-23 12:52:28] <Arkeus> ok, another reboot
- [2012-01-23 12:52:32] <Arkeus> installing another anti virus
- [2012-01-23 12:52:40] <Arkeus> if that desn't work, i will have to format my comp
- [2012-01-23 12:52:44] <Arkeus> fuck it all .png
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- [2012-01-23 12:53:54] <Falconis> what happened to Ark?
- [2012-01-23 12:54:07] <Bob> But also yes, that 'once you've lived long enough that your personality is pretty set' and what it means for learning new things is a TERRIBLE handicap. Solutions are: have a will like steel, and force yourself to invest the same effort and sincerity learning something even after 400 years of being a big leaguer, and the new thing is, say, indoor plumbing,
- [2012-01-23 12:54:13] <Falconis> and whatever it was can't he just do a system restore?
- [2012-01-23 12:54:15] <Bob> or some other 'minor' thing that actually matters.
- [2012-01-23 12:54:33] <Bob> The SECOND solution is to memory wipe yourself periodically.
- [2012-01-23 12:54:44] <Bob> I think you know what option Li Kui chose.
- [2012-01-23 12:55:05] <Ironybot> My chosen solution would be to steal memories from modern people on a regular basis and use them to keep myself up to date.
- [2012-01-23 12:56:13] <Bob> See, the reason people don't steal memories all the time is that memories have context-all those neural pathways and recollections associated with it. None of that is in the thief-so actually, stealing memories, rather than hiding in someone's mind and waiting for them to actively think it while your there, is quite hard.
- [2012-01-23 12:56:14] <Ironybot> Unless there are severe weaknesses to that approach which I have no considered.
- [2012-01-23 12:57:15] <Ironybot> Hrm. But if you can get someone to actively think about something, then you can take them?
- [2012-01-23 12:57:49] <Falconis> hrm
- [2012-01-23 12:58:03] <Falconis> this makes things interesting
- [2012-01-23 12:58:09] <Falconis> go up to somebody
- [2012-01-23 12:58:14] <Falconis> slam them into a wall
- [2012-01-23 12:58:15] <Bob> To make memory thieving, as opposed to-and let's arbitrarily name it here 'memory creeping'-memory creeping, you need to either be able to safely manipulate the memory to fit your mind WITHOUT distorting it, or warp your own mind to temporarily mirror the one you took it from-also hard.
- [2012-01-23 12:58:28] <Falconis> "What is your bank account number and password"
- [2012-01-23 12:58:40] <Bob> However, memory creeping only requires patience and stealth ability-invade the mind, do nothing, wait until they think of what you want
- [2012-01-23 12:58:45] <Falconis> they instinctively think it
- [2012-01-23 12:58:47] <Falconis> steal
- [2012-01-23 12:59:09] <Bob> the downside is time, as even if you tell someone that, quite a few people auto-redirect to 'this is fucking stupid, I don't have time for this' rather than actually the thing.
- [2012-01-23 12:59:29] <Ironybot> So I've been looking a little more at this battleship theft concept, and I'm thinking: The ship is in Mexico. That's like eight thousand kilometers.
- [2012-01-23 12:59:45] <Ironybot> We're not going to move eight thousand klicks to steal a boat.
- [2012-01-23 12:59:51] <Bob> You can fly 'Li Kui Air'
- [2012-01-23 13:00:00] <Bob> As long as he's got stable land to jump off of....
- [2012-01-23 13:00:03] <Bob> He can hulkleap
- [2012-01-23 13:00:23] <Ironybot> But can he tell in advance where he'll land?
- [2012-01-23 13:00:26] <Bob> that can circumnavigate bush rather well, those several hundred meter leaps.
- [2012-01-23 13:00:30] <Bob> Mostly.
- [2012-01-23 13:00:32] <Bob> Mostly.
- [2012-01-23 13:00:44] <WaryObserver> But the question is will he grope us mid flight?
- [2012-01-23 13:00:49] <Falconis> :I
- [2012-01-23 13:00:55] <Ironybot> "I'm sure that river wasn't there when I jumped..."
- [2012-01-23 13:01:10] <Ironybot> Encantado swarm omnomnom.
- [2012-01-23 13:01:38] <Falconis> Lunch
- [2012-01-23 13:01:57] <Bob> On the bright side, he can cover a mile of forest in about seventeen seconds with leaping, assuming all leaps land squarely and he can just releap instead of re-positioning-and as he's been in these woods for half a millenia, presumably he knows where stuff is.
- [2012-01-23 13:01:57] <Ironybot> Which side does the nomming is uncertain, given that Li Kui doesn't exactly have a lot of leverage that he can get to use his crazy strength when he's in the water.
- [2012-01-23 13:02:14] <Bob> That is one reason Li Kui doesn't like swimming at all
- [2012-01-23 13:02:29] <Bob> hell, he doesn't even like DRINKING water unless there's booze somewhere in it.
- [2012-01-23 13:03:28] <Falconis> ....he jumps 102 miles an hour?
- [2012-01-23 13:03:33] <Falconis> ..huh...
- [2012-01-23 13:03:45] <Bob> Of course, since his axes have exactly two magical functions-those being 'drain magic energy from user's force input in each swing to insure axe maintains structural integrity' and 'on impact, invert decelerating force into a one-off accelerator.
- [2012-01-23 13:04:01] <Bob> So he has access that his own strength renders unbreakable that double in speed when they make contact.
- [2012-01-23 13:04:03] <Falconis> no wait I think I did somn wrong
- [2012-01-23 13:04:15] <Ironybot> 211.76 miles per hour.
- [2012-01-23 13:04:16] <Bob> swung by the strongest (physically) human.
- [2012-01-23 13:04:39] <Falconis> fast calc didn't work
- [2012-01-23 13:04:41] <Falconis> sad
- [2012-01-23 13:04:48] <Bob> Again, that's if he does not miss a single landing. Realistically it'd float somewhere above 150mph
- [2012-01-23 13:04:54] <Bob> until you exited the forest
- [2012-01-23 13:04:59] <Bob> then he'd happily go faster
- [2012-01-23 13:05:23] <Falconis> yea 211.8
- [2012-01-23 13:06:06] <Bob> Too bad Sake can't fly him around-even trying to wrap him up in wind will severely intoxicate Sake just from spiritual bleed (only would effect him, as he's a legitimate ghost possessing a body-SB is in the Dark, Hummingbird and you are still in the flesh)
- [2012-01-23 13:06:24] <Falconis> :I
- [2012-01-23 13:06:32] <Ironybot> Anyway. Other considerations with the "steal a battleship" plan; where the heck would we keep it? How would we make arrangements so that mortal authorities didn't grow suspicious?
- [2012-01-23 13:06:43] <WaryObserver> Pirate cove.
- [2012-01-23 13:06:46] <WaryObserver> Obviously
- [2012-01-23 13:06:53] <Falconis> that's a lot of alcohol
- [2012-01-23 13:07:00] <Ironybot> How would we stop the Doonongaes from assaulting the thing as soon as he discovers we're on it?
- [2012-01-23 13:07:06] <Ironybot> ...or would we?
- [2012-01-23 13:07:14] <Bob> And crack, and shrooms, and all sorts of fun narcotics
- [2012-01-23 13:07:22] <Bob> Li Kui does not dick about getting f'ed up.
- [2012-01-23 13:07:54] <Falconis> I think going drinking with him would risk out health
- [2012-01-23 13:07:59] <Bob> If Doony was to try and fight you inside the ship after breaching, and then encountered Li Kui in close quarters in a cramped area....
- [2012-01-23 13:08:07] <Falconis> and probably do a few million in property damage
- [2012-01-23 13:08:12] <Bob> Well, I think you'd need to apologize to everyone they didn't get to help kill Doony.
- [2012-01-23 13:08:13] <Ironybot> That was my thought with the "...or would we?" comment, yes.
- [2012-01-23 13:08:29] <Falconis> lets do it
- [2012-01-23 13:09:34] <Ironybot> How did Li Kui know that our spirit wine was weasel wine specifically, by the way?
- [2012-01-23 13:09:50] <WaryObserver> We have a Kamaitachi on our shoulder?
- [2012-01-23 13:09:52] <Ironybot> We never referred to it as such. Could he tell that Sake's a kamaitachi and inferred?
- [2012-01-23 13:09:57] <Bob> By the smell coming off your soul bubble, and having drank weasel wine before.
- [2012-01-23 13:10:07] <Ironybot> Ah.
- [2012-01-23 13:13:21] <Ironybot> Okay, so if we use Li Kui's rapid transit he can probably get us to Mexico in... 20 hours or so, depending upon what his average speed over the whole trip is.
- [2012-01-23 13:13:51] <Ironybot> How do we stop AORB from taking issue with a hulk-jumping man and the saps clinging haplessly to his back?
- [2012-01-23 13:14:05] <Ironybot> Seems like they'd probably frown on use of magic that blatantly.
- [2012-01-23 13:15:14] <Bob> Well, that's when you just... just keep hopping along, and try to not put craters in roads or land in major cities.
- [2012-01-23 13:15:22] <Bob> That's what you do, is you take a slightly scenic route.
- [2012-01-23 13:15:46] <Bob> Put a hole in a farmer's field? AORB doesn't care. Put a hole in downtown anything? AORB cares.
- [2012-01-23 13:16:28] <Ironybot> We'd have to get through Panama at some point, there's an entire canal there which is basically under observation along the whole thing.
- [2012-01-23 13:16:38] <Ironybot> Suppose we could wait for nightfall.
- [2012-01-23 13:17:23] <Bob> Do recall that you WILL need people to crew the craft-I'll handwave that it's been maintained enough to be servicable for sailing, but you still need hands to push buttons and pull levers.
- [2012-01-23 13:17:51] <Bob> Since you don't know how to sail it yourself, and Li Kui sure as shit doesn't either.
- [2012-01-23 13:18:07] <Ironybot> Is it terrible that I'm wondering if we could just con like three hundred people of their shadows and then act as the entire crew?
- [2012-01-23 13:18:11] <Ironybot> Admittedly knowledge is a problem.
- [2012-01-23 13:18:22] <Ironybot> Then have Shadowbro act as the entire crew, rather.
- [2012-01-23 13:18:47] <Bob> That would be entirely doable if those shadows actually knew how to sail this craft.
- [2012-01-23 13:18:55] <Bob> and came from normal people
- [2012-01-23 13:19:13] <Ironybot> So we need to con three hundred mundane sailors.
- [2012-01-23 13:19:25] <Bob> the problem is, to keep memory from a shadow, SB would have to dominate them, rather than conquer them. Difference is shadows would burn off eventually because they weren't part of him.
- [2012-01-23 13:19:41] <Bob> which would mean you'd be killing those 300 people.
- [2012-01-23 13:19:47] <Bob> Since, once the shadow's dead...
- [2012-01-23 13:19:50] <Bob> ah... problems.
- [2012-01-23 13:19:52] <Ironybot> Could you explain more about this distinction between types of shadow claiming?
- [2012-01-23 13:20:55] <Bob> Okay-if you conquer a shadow, then whatever it was doesn't matter-it's now a part of you. No memories persist, but any inbuilt ability, it's size and shape-those last. Dominating a shadow gives you not just what the shadow has-but everything the person that cast it had too.... but you didn't really take the shadow, but instead started puppeting it
- [2012-01-23 13:21:13] <Bob> a dominated shadow's got more tricks and is easier to claim, but will self destruct
- [2012-01-23 13:21:16] <Bob> can't get around that
- [2012-01-23 13:21:37] <Bob> conquering is more time and energy intensive, but actually gives a permanent change.
- [2012-01-23 13:21:48] <Ironybot> How quickly will it self-destruct?
- [2012-01-23 13:23:38] <Bob> Depends on what they do, how shadowed the area they are in is, and how powerful of a soul cast the shadow. For mundanes just flipping levers in a ship? Sunlight will hurt them, but the ones that stay in the dark the whole way back will last past the ship docks without question. Those that spend a great deal of time in the sun probably will not make it to
- [2012-01-23 13:23:40] <Bob> Turkey.
- [2012-01-23 13:24:11] <Bob> ✁
- [2012-01-23 13:26:17] <Ironybot> Hmm, I see. Both of these cases involve removing the shadow from the one who originally had it, right? What about a case like we discussed with the heart thing, where the shadows (presumably) remain attached to the people generating them but are placed under the control of another entity? Or is that case basically making all the Russians have a soul shadow that just happens to all be the...
- [2012-01-23 13:26:17] <Ironybot> ...same soul, specifically Shadowbro?
- [2012-01-23 13:26:39] <Ironybot> We've gotten a bit off the immediate topic here I know but the magic theory is interesting.
- [2012-01-23 13:27:31] <Bob> That's going to be a bit more difficult to answer. Bear that in mind as you read these high ramblings.
- [2012-01-23 13:28:30] <Bob> Everyone's is connected to their shadow-it's both a fundamental property of light that they will cast a shadow pretty much always, and there's lore, social and personal reasons to value your own shadow as something more, either genuinely or periodically.
- [2012-01-23 13:28:47] <Bob> Sorry, everyone is connected to their shadow, but not everyone's shadow is connected back
- [2012-01-23 13:29:01] <Bob> your shadow is connected back-you carried that train to it's conclusion, ultimately.
- [2012-01-23 13:29:08] <Bob> But normal people only have the one way connection
- [2012-01-23 13:29:41] <Bob> back to your question-SB abuses this in the heart plan, to FILL the feedback roll himself. He completes the naturally incomplete soul-shadow system with his own shadowsoul.
- [2012-01-23 13:30:10] <Bob> and as such, makes them part of his body, even while they are still each person's shadow-and thus SB becomes Legion, rather than getting minions, as he did with the nazinaut shadow.
- [2012-01-23 13:31:13] <Bob> You know... a magic theory wiki page would probably also be a good idea some day.
- [2012-01-23 13:31:25] <Bob> Sorry, non sequitor. Did I answer your question?
- [2012-01-23 13:32:18] <Ironybot> You gave information which raised more questions.
- [2012-01-23 13:33:09] <Ironybot> If for a mundane person the shadow connection is one way, that is, their shadow never gives anything back- why do they die when they lose their shadow? Is it because they're unable to send... something, in their shadow's direction? Or something else?
- [2012-01-23 13:34:58] <Bob> It's because a tiny bit of one's own soul squeezes into one's shadow-think less than 1%, and it's so minor most never really notice it. It's the result of all that shadow belief in assorted forms. SO, when the shadow is separated, rather than attacked-a fraction of soul is ripped out. For most mundanes, that is a spiritual death sentence.
- [2012-01-23 13:35:09] <Bob> You pretty much need magic to survive that occuring.
- [2012-01-23 13:35:36] <Bob> If something attacks a shadow, that tiny bit of soul is why normal people can even be targeted.
- [2012-01-23 13:35:50] <Bob> Those tiny bits of soul are also the keys to each person's shadow as a gate to the Dark.
- [2012-01-23 13:35:59] <Bob> they are what make them viable as gates.
- [2012-01-23 13:36:15] <Ironybot> I thought that losing a bit of your soul normally resulted in nothing more than a patch of spiritual scar tissue as the soul healed over the damage?
- [2012-01-23 13:37:30] <Bob> That's because it's damaged, or burned up, or some such. This is having a piece of your own soul pulled out-the difference of chopping or singing a ball of wood, and pulling a cork out of said wooden container.
- [2012-01-23 13:38:51] <EvilP> a vital soul organ
- [2012-01-23 13:38:53] <EvilP> :)
- [2012-01-23 13:39:05] <Bob> The soul sliver /soul bit in one's shadow is a tiny cross-section down to your core-I suppose you could think of it as a soul shard or needle, so you properly saw how it came out of the soul. It's the fact it goes the whole way through all the layers of the soul-and that all layers were exposed by it's removal.
- [2012-01-23 13:39:15] <Ironybot> Then, with the Heart plan, which requires a bit of soul as input from all participating- does that imply that if the process is not completed successfully and made stable, all mundanes attempting to be involved in the process will die?
- [2012-01-23 13:39:30] <Bob> That is correct.
- [2012-01-23 13:39:43] <Ironybot> Good to know.
- [2012-01-23 13:40:04] <Bob> However, if you give them enough magic saturation and chakra stuff prior to heart attempt, fatality is no longer guaranteed.
- [2012-01-23 13:42:05] <Ironybot> And it would be this same phenomenon that causes feedback and potential death if the heart is damaged or destroyed subsequently, correct? Those soul samples all ceasing to exist seems directly analagous to having the soul sliver that mundanes have in their shadows get yanked out.
- [2012-01-23 13:42:18] <Bob> http://i.imgur.com/j2uHk.jpg
- [2012-01-23 13:42:30] <Bob> Again correct.
- [2012-01-23 13:42:33] <Bob> Clap clap Ironybot.
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- [2012-01-23 13:43:05] <Bob> http://i.imgur.com/LBDxq.jpg
- [2012-01-23 13:44:39] <Falconis> Are you sure that you are not a Bob Split personality?
- [2012-01-23 13:45:03] <Ironybot> Then I suppose this begs the question, aside from sheer magic saturation and use, what aids in withstanding the sudden absence of a core sample of the soul? I can see Armas tanking it fairly well by just shaping the hole in his soul closed, just like a flesh manipulator shifting away a normally-fatal injury, but not everyone is so fortunate in their talents.
- [2012-01-23 13:45:41] <Ironybot> Having more magic in someone presumably protects them because more magic means more soul, thus it can weather the damage through sheer volume.
- [2012-01-23 13:45:53] <Bob> That is correct.
- [2012-01-23 13:47:32] <Ironybot> But that's hardly the most desirable form of protection, though it's a functional one. If the damage comes from exposure of the soul's innermost core to the world, then... I guess, why is that damaging? What's in your soul core that can leak out, become unstable, or react poorly when it's not properly insulated? I think of souls as largely homogeneous magic blobs.
- [2012-01-23 13:48:11] <Ironybot> Well, magic and experience blobs. They've been described that way before, but clearly that's not correct, or at least is incomplete.
- [2012-01-23 13:48:29] <Falconis> why can it not be the magic that leaks?
- [2012-01-23 13:49:06] <Bob> Think of the soul like water-the lower levels are pressurized, and require proper pressure around them. What happens when deep sea creatures come up?
- [2012-01-23 13:49:30] <Falconis> scary things
- [2012-01-23 13:50:32] <Falconis> I hope somebody has logs of this convo
- [2012-01-23 13:50:39] <Falconis> I forgot to enable mine
- [2012-01-23 13:51:13] <Ironybot> If the answer you're looking for is "they explode", I don't think that's actually true; it happens to divers because of a pressure differential created by the fact that they've decompressed air in a high-pressure area and are subsequently allowing that already-decompressed air to expand even further while inside their bodies by moving into a lower-pressure environment. Naturally adapted...
- [2012-01-23 13:51:13] <Ironybot> ...creatures suffer no such difficulties.
- [2012-01-23 13:51:35] <Ironybot> But I'm pretty sure the answer you're looking for is "they explode", as that would fit the line of this metaphor.
- [2012-01-23 13:52:28] <WaryObserver> I thought they made like a marshmallow in a vacuum, but that is neither here nor there.
- [2012-01-23 13:52:51] <Falconis> ....what happens to a marshmallow in a vacuum?
- [2012-01-23 13:53:14] <Ironybot> In particular your description paints a colorful picture of jets of pressurized soul fountaining forth from a tiny gash in the soul like blood from a body in a Tarantino film.
- [2012-01-23 13:53:38] <Bob> I was more referencing multiple organ failure when being brought up since things don't stay the right shape and pressure levels.
- [2012-01-23 13:54:17] <Ironybot> Ah. Yes, that too. My apologies for leaping to conclusions.
- [2012-01-23 13:54:34] <WaryObserver> Does that mean by slowly losing the soul chunk in the shadow, ones soul can acclimatize to the different pressure?
- [2012-01-23 13:55:00] <Bob> Some conditions exist for that yes.
- [2012-01-23 13:55:11] <Falconis> like if their shadow slowly dissolves over the course of weeks instead of instant removal?
- [2012-01-23 13:55:18] <Falconis> interesting
- [2012-01-23 13:56:58] <Ironybot> This also implies that you could create a charm or enchantment, probably relatively easily if you were a good soul manipulator/charm maker, which could react to having a soul cored by slapping a patch on the hole in order to keep the pressure equalized until it heals over.
- [2012-01-23 13:57:24] <Falconis> that is a very specific charm
- [2012-01-23 13:57:33] <Ironybot> Which would allow us to distribute such things to anyone in our Heart and thereby stop them from going into severe and potentially fatal shock if the Heart is destroyed.
- [2012-01-23 13:57:50] <Falconis> handy
- [2012-01-23 13:58:15] <Ironybot> Indeed.
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- [2012-01-23 13:58:30] <Falconis> and that's when I bought the horse a prostitute
- [2012-01-23 13:58:33] <Falconis> Hey shifter
- [2012-01-23 13:58:45] <Shifter19> Hi Falconis.
- [2012-01-23 13:58:52] <WaryObserver> Why is it people say handy, and not footy? You use your feet more.
- [2012-01-23 13:59:17] <Ironybot> You don't generally use them for as interesting a variety of applications.
- [2012-01-23 14:04:50] <Bob> The same guy played Chewbacca and the Predator. Huh.
- [2012-01-23 14:05:00] <Bob> No, sorry
- [2012-01-23 14:05:04] <Bob> not chewbacca...
- [2012-01-23 14:05:13] <Bob> Actually the fuck IS that? http://i.imgur.com/Skqzo.jpg
- [2012-01-23 14:05:32] <Ironybot> If you're good at wearing an alien suit might as well stick with it, I guess.
- [2012-01-23 14:05:44] <Falconis> ...good question
- [2012-01-23 14:06:01] <WaryObserver> Harry.
- [2012-01-23 14:06:06] <WaryObserver> From harry and the hendersons
- [2012-01-23 14:07:23] <Ironybot> I want to say it was Bigfoot from some movie, and I think that's the one I'm thinking of.
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- [2012-01-23 14:08:09] <Falconis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5okzOrTYGU
- [2012-01-23 14:08:10] <Classhole> Falconis: Violin Cover: "Crazy" Gnarls Barkley - length 3m 48s - rated 4.96/5.0 (8831) - 896508 views - JimmyChaosViolin on 2008.10.02
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- [2012-01-23 14:21:39] <Bob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzTWJvpiccU&feature=related
- [2012-01-23 14:21:40] <Classhole> Bob: Louis CK - Daughter and Ponies (from 2010 "Hilarious") - length 4m 13s - rated 4.94/5.0 (67) - 9609 views - 404errorfilenotfound on 2010.09.23
- [2012-01-23 14:25:03] <Falconis> horrible parent
- [2012-01-23 14:27:10] <Falconis> good comedian
- [2012-01-23 14:27:23] <Falconis> ehhh
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- [2012-01-23 14:31:27] <Falconis> worked that out Ark?
- [2012-01-23 14:31:46] <Arky> well, reinstalled windows
- [2012-01-23 14:31:52] <Arky> deleted everything on my comp
- [2012-01-23 14:31:54] <Arky> hoping it helps
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- [2012-01-23 14:33:19] <Falconis> ...
- [2012-01-23 14:33:21] <Falconis> ;-;
- [2012-01-23 14:33:30] <Falconis> did you try system restore?
- [2012-01-23 14:33:40] <Arkeus> Not sure how to do that :p
- [2012-01-23 14:33:55] <Falconis> :I
- [2012-01-23 14:34:37] <Falconis> well since you have already done the reinstalled it doesn't make sense for me to tell you
- [2012-01-23 14:34:47] <WaryObserver> Start>accessories>System tools> System restore
- [2012-01-23 14:34:56] <Falconis> he can tell you instead
- [2012-01-23 14:34:57] <Arkeus> yes, but what does it do?
- [2012-01-23 14:34:57] <WaryObserver> If you got Xp or somesuch
- [2012-01-23 14:35:05] <Arkeus> Anyway, i deleted everything because i was wary of virus
- [2012-01-23 14:35:09] <Arkeus> do i need to format, too?
- [2012-01-23 14:35:14] <Falconis> reverses you comp to an earlier time
- [2012-01-23 14:35:33] <Falconis> I pretty much use it every time shit goes down
- [2012-01-23 14:35:42] <Falconis> bad install? system restore
- [2012-01-23 14:35:53] <Falconis> download virus? system restore
- [2012-01-23 14:36:14] <Arkeus> Sleeping problem? system restore
- [2012-01-23 14:36:48] <Falconis> the only time I don't use it is if I don't have a set restore point
- [2012-01-23 14:39:42] <Falconis> anybody know any good comedians that I can go watch shows for now?
- [2012-01-23 14:41:04] <Arkeus> Ok, last reboot
- [2012-01-23 14:41:15] <Falconis> still having problems
- [2012-01-23 14:41:17] <Falconis> ?
- [2012-01-23 14:41:22] <Arkeus> Nah, windows update
- [2012-01-23 14:41:26] <Falconis> ah
- [2012-01-23 14:41:28] <Falconis> lol
- [2012-01-23 14:41:30] <Arkeus> because i had to install 92updates
- [2012-01-23 14:41:37] <Falconis> see ya on the flip side then
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- [2012-01-23 15:18:47] <MrTT> "<Falconis> download virus? system restore " - fuck no
- [2012-01-23 15:18:52] <MrTT> viruses infect system restore
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- [2012-01-23 15:19:27] <MrTT> system restore is if a bad windows update / driver broke your OS
- [2012-01-23 15:19:36] <MrTT> in theory it restores it to an earlier state and unbreaks it
- [2012-01-23 15:19:45] <MrTT> not guarenteed to work, or work well
- [2012-01-23 15:19:59] <Falconis> usually works out for me
- [2012-01-23 15:20:11] <MrTT> ... you need to use it on a USUAL basis?
- [2012-01-23 15:20:17] <Falconis> but I also do a bunch of other stuff
- [2012-01-23 15:20:19] <MrTT> how often do you break your PC?
- [2012-01-23 15:20:20] <Falconis> no
- [2012-01-23 15:20:44] <Falconis> I have used it several times though
- [2012-01-23 15:20:49] <MrTT> ah, ok
- [2012-01-23 15:20:50] <Falconis> not on this comp
- [2012-01-23 15:20:58] <Falconis> on the other, old, now dead PC
- [2012-01-23 15:22:03] <Falconis> >mfw I think 10 years I think back in the 90's
- [2012-01-23 15:22:13] <Falconis> man...time flies
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- [2012-01-23 15:29:44] <Abeo> I also think back to the 90 when I think 10 years ago
- [2012-01-23 15:29:50] <Abeo> *90s
- [2012-01-23 15:30:24] <Abeo> Which is ridiculous. 10 years ago I was 11. I barely even remember the 90s
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- [2012-01-23 15:38:59] <MysticalSphinx> http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1327352067151.png
- [2012-01-23 16:07:58] <Grail> http://www.wimp.com/kidwants/
- [2012-01-23 16:09:27] <Arkeus> http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17053620/images/1322599828199.jpg old but fun
- [2012-01-23 16:10:48] <MysticalSphinx> ...
- [2012-01-23 16:10:54] <MysticalSphinx> That is brilliance
- [2012-01-23 16:10:55] <Sanity_Flake> BEARS
- [2012-01-23 16:11:02] <Arkeus> never seen it before?
- [2012-01-23 16:11:08] <Arkeus> glad i posted it, then
- [2012-01-23 16:13:54] <MysticalSphinx> "Roars" *shrug*
- [2012-01-23 16:14:03] <Arkeus> Such dignity
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- [2012-01-23 16:14:26] <MrTT> "<MysticalSphinx> http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1327352067151.png" - I am pretty sure you can't rape a woman into loving you
- [2012-01-23 16:14:59] <Arkeus> *Japan*
- [2012-01-23 16:15:02] <MrTT> I am a bit confused on the "seduces, rapes, and mindbreaks her"... since it puts rape after seduce
- [2012-01-23 16:15:13] <MrTT> Ah I didn't realize it was japanese, yes that makes perfect sense
- [2012-01-23 16:15:18] <MrTT> for japan that is
- [2012-01-23 16:15:20] <Arkeus> Need i repeat 'Japan'?
- [2012-01-23 16:15:27] <Grail> http://www.wimp.com/birdonstage/
- [2012-01-23 16:15:42] <Grail> http://www.wimp.com/birdonstage/
- [2012-01-23 16:15:51] <MrTT> not at all ark... "japan" is a perfect explanation that makes everything clear
- [2012-01-23 16:15:53] <Grail> http://www.wimp.com/authenticpizza/
- [2012-01-23 16:15:54] <Arkeus> My take is it's not japanese, it's from people who are taking japan at face value
- [2012-01-23 16:16:02] <Grail> http://www.wimp.com/phonesolo/
- [2012-01-23 16:16:26] <Grail> Between those four videos wimp has put me in a great fucking mood today.
- [2012-01-23 16:16:34] <MrTT> Weeabos?
- [2012-01-23 16:17:52] <Arkeus> So, do you people want to talk about whether we want to pay a shit ton to get back to istanbul before meeting, or if wewant to go back the long way? and, if we want to go back the long way, what do we plan to do? just walk to hope for the best? try to steal that WW2 Nazi ship?
- [2012-01-23 16:18:43] <MysticalSphinx> >Grab a flying monster, ride home
- [2012-01-23 16:20:12] <Arkeus> That would be part of the 'walking but wiht a plan' option, then
- [2012-01-23 16:20:32] <Arkeus> but in that case, we would have to ask Duke where we would have a good chance of grabbing one
- [2012-01-23 16:21:16] <Falconis> clap clap phone solo
- [2012-01-23 16:21:47] <Arkeus> huh?
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- [2012-01-23 16:26:54] <Ralith> I thought that was a WW2 US ship
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- [2012-01-23 16:28:08] <Arkeus> apparently i am wrong
- [2012-01-23 16:29:23] <Wutenheimer> http://www.iaza.com/work/120123C/iaza12050616249200.jpg
- [2012-01-23 16:30:42] <Wutenheimer> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=177631842336392&set=a.173082256124684.27228.171384739627769&type=1&theater
- [2012-01-23 16:31:11] <Arkeus> http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16425991/ thread where there was the bearington post
- [2012-01-23 16:32:38] <Wutenheimer> the original thread?
- [2012-01-23 16:32:45] <Wutenheimer> i remember that one
- [2012-01-23 16:32:49] <Wutenheimer> good time it was
- [2012-01-23 16:44:14] <Abeo> Does Armas even know about the WW2 ship? And where is it anyway?
- [2012-01-23 16:44:40] <Arkeus> Armas should know, as it's likely a very much known military thing
- [2012-01-23 16:44:51] <Arkeus> And from my understanding it's not that far
- [2012-01-23 16:44:57] <Arkeus> you'll have to aks buttz though
- [2012-01-23 16:48:09] <Abeo> Bah.
- [2012-01-23 16:48:47] <WaryObserver> ... Humbug?
- [2012-01-23 16:50:36] <Abeo> Yeah sure.
- [2012-01-23 16:56:30] <Falconis> Create portal into the belly of a tarrasque. Portal empties most of it's stomach acids into a ravine.
- [2012-01-23 16:56:32] <Falconis> >Shoot it with arrows and throw explosives into it. Shit doesn't work.
- [2012-01-23 16:56:34] <Falconis> >Can't kill it, but it eventually starves to death because it can't digest food..
- [2012-01-23 16:56:36] <Falconis> ...
- [2012-01-23 16:56:49] <MrTT> http://xkcd.com/1007/#
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- [2012-01-23 17:02:05] <Abeo> Yeah, that wouldn't kill it. Might make it go to sleep though, and stay that way instead of waking up every meillenia or so to eat everything though
- [2012-01-23 17:02:14] <Arkeus> http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/01/17-1/dcs-robama-ad-sends-out-battle-cry-to-discourage-manga-sales
- [2012-01-23 17:03:35] <Abeo> That would just encourage me to buy more manga.
- [2012-01-23 17:03:42] <Abeo> Read it once, trade it in for free comic.
- [2012-01-23 17:04:24] <Falconis> scan it before you trade it
- [2012-01-23 17:04:29] <Falconis> so you can read it again
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- [2012-01-23 17:29:10] <Wutenheimer> http://xkcd.com/1004/
- [2012-01-23 17:45:41] <Ironybot> We discussed the WWII battleship plan somewhat earlier today, along with a few other interesting items. I'll post the logs in the discussion thread in a bit.
- [2012-01-23 17:48:26] <Ironybot> Several outstanding issued remain, such as "in the event of complete success, where do we keep it and get away with it in the eyes of mundane governments" and "where do we get three hundred semi-reliable sailors at least vaguely familiar with 1940's ship hardware".
- [2012-01-23 17:48:35] <Ironybot> Outstanding issues. Excuse me.
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- [2012-01-23 17:51:51] <Arkeus> The former issues concern me more
- [2012-01-23 17:52:17] <Arkeus> bob did say Duke woul help us pitch the stealing of the boat to the smuggler cove, which might mean we will get enough people to run away with
- [2012-01-23 17:52:26] <Arkeus> and from then, we might get vampire sailors, or something
- [2012-01-23 17:52:37] <Arkeus> but the governements might not like us taking such a big thing
- [2012-01-23 17:53:00] <Ironybot> If we get our recruits from the smuggler's cove, then there are problems like "how do we move three hundred people eight thousand kilometers to our objective".
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- [2012-01-23 17:54:31] <Arkeus> the ship is eight thousands kilometers away?
- [2012-01-23 17:54:42] <Arkeus> how the heck is getting to it quicker than getting to istanbul swimming?
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- [2012-01-23 17:58:34] <Arkeus> hey TMIoverload
- [2012-01-23 17:59:00] <Arkeus> Ironybot: ideas beyond the ship then? like, ideas on how to get to istanbul quickly semi-cheaply?
- [2012-01-23 17:59:01] <Ironybot> Well, our companion can apparently hulk-jump at speeds potentially excess of two hundred miles per hour over jungle terrain, and significantly faster in clear conditions.
- [2012-01-23 17:59:30] <Arkeus> mmh, true
- [2012-01-23 17:59:31] <Ironybot> So the large distances involved here are somewhat less intimidating given that option... as long as it's just us, our posse, and him.
- [2012-01-23 17:59:39] <Arkeus> he did hit us with mach 2 'punches'
- [2012-01-23 17:59:46] <Ironybot> If we start adding in hundreds of crew members then transport is a problem again.
- [2012-01-23 18:00:00] <Sanity_Flake> ??????
- [2012-01-23 18:00:05] <Sanity_Flake> What's this boat idea I keep hearing of
- [2012-01-23 18:00:13] <Sanity_Flake> This WWII battleship thingy
- [2012-01-23 18:01:50] <MrTT> http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0830.html I have to say that was unexpected
- [2012-01-23 18:01:52] <MrTT> also awesome
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- [2012-01-23 18:03:05] <TMIoverload> There's a battleship schelduled to be scrapped near where we are. people want to steal it for some reason
- [2012-01-23 18:03:21] <Sanity_Flake> ...
- [2012-01-23 18:04:11] <TMIoverload> They also want to spend massive amounts of money retrofitting it for the vampire friendly stuff the Mansion has so we can have vampire sailors
- [2012-01-23 18:04:23] <Sanity_Flake> wat
- [2012-01-23 18:05:19] <TMIoverload> Yeah, I don't understand how people think it's a good use of time and resources either
- [2012-01-23 18:05:27] <Arkeus> It's not
- [2012-01-23 18:05:29] <Arkeus> But it's a lol use
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- [2012-01-23 18:06:10] <ManOfTroy> We need a Battleship.
- [2012-01-23 18:06:18] <TMIoverload> Even in terms of "lol" it's a crappy idea. That much time and money could be better spents on lols too
- [2012-01-23 18:06:20] <ManOfTroy> Why is that so confusing?
- [2012-01-23 18:06:53] <JAT> Olé olé, ooohlé olé
- [2012-01-23 18:07:23] =-= JAT is now known as CaptainButthead
- [2012-01-23 18:07:26] <MrTT> that sounds like a horrible misuse of resources
- [2012-01-23 18:07:31] <CaptainButthead> It's not though
- [2012-01-23 18:07:34] <MrTT> also... aren't vampires bad around running water?
- [2012-01-23 18:07:36] <TMIoverload> Yes, the guy with a fear of the deep sea and operating primarily within' a single city needs a battleship
- [2012-01-23 18:07:52] <Arkeus> that oots one was sad
- [2012-01-23 18:07:53] <Arkeus> :-(
- [2012-01-23 18:07:56] <CaptainButthead> We get 200+ vampire crew loyal to us because we're the only dude with a ship that lets them perform daylight operations
- [2012-01-23 18:08:19] <CaptainButthead> If we key the wards right they'll either be happy with us or get fucked
- [2012-01-23 18:08:21] <TMIoverload> Vamps are, but apparently battleships being thick enough and made of emtal lets them operate over running water
- [2012-01-23 18:08:23] <Arkeus> CaptainButthead: how would they be loyal to us, though?
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- [2012-01-23 18:08:28] <Arkeus> why would thye not try to steal it?
- [2012-01-23 18:08:32] <Arkeus> or copy the idea?
- [2012-01-23 18:08:40] <Arkeus> I mean if weget it by stealing...
- [2012-01-23 18:08:48] <Sanity_Flake> Yeah, using a battleship on vamps is just...dunno, it sounds inefficient
- [2012-01-23 18:09:01] <TMIoverload> We have otherways to get loyal vampires.
- [2012-01-23 18:09:08] <CaptainButthead> That's true
- [2012-01-23 18:09:23] <CaptainButthead> But there's another good reason to have a destroyer
- [2012-01-23 18:09:33] <CaptainButthead> Don't you think dooney's got buddies in the new world?
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- [2012-01-23 18:09:54] <CaptainButthead> People who couldn't come with him to Turkey, but who also wouldn't mind killing the punk that killed and ate their friend?
- [2012-01-23 18:10:05] <CaptainButthead> (cause we're totally eating him)\
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