The devil you don't

okay

[11:10]
so lets use this one

[11:10]
alright, so basically what I did was

[11:11]
because I’m not a creep I decided to look at who really owns this hydreon thing

[11:11]
i found some pretty ugly stuff

[11:11]
basically, i spent an entire hour ripping apart the family tree looking at all of them

[11:11]
all their social networking profiles, all their youtube videos, public appearances, business records, communications, etc, etc

[11:11]
ill start dropping what i found here, but you gotta keep it in this chat

vladthegreat100 [11:12 PM]
ok

hiveraven [11:12 PM]
Ok

blade00000009 [11:12 PM]
okay

hiveraven [11:12 PM]
I will actually do that this time

blade00000009 [11:12 PM]
I live for the drama

[11:12]
But I'll keep it safe

rocky [11:12 PM]
yeah you don’t really do a good job with that hive

[11:12]
just saying

hiveraven [11:12 PM]
well this time I will

rocky [11:12 PM]
you know its bad when people are telling me on skype someone is running off

hiveraven [11:12 PM]
you have my word

rocky [11:13 PM]
alright, so basically in a nut shell, this company hydreon it sells IRL products

[11:13]
basically a rain gauge type thing, apparently its used in some cars with automatic rain sensing technology, so it’ll automatically turn on your wipers

hiveraven [11:13 PM]
hydreon owns lifeboat correct?

rocky [11:14 PM]
they also sell something called faketv, which is this bullshit box that lights up to fake a tv screen

vladthegreat100 [11:14 PM]
And what's so bad?

rocky [11:14 PM]
hydreon owns lifeboat yes

vladthegreat100 [11:14 PM]
Lifeboat is it's side business

[11:14]
Car wipers are the main business

rocky [11:14 PM]
lifeboat was originally created by his son, william teder (aka williamtdr)

hiveraven [11:14 PM]
ocn is the side businesses side business

rocky [11:14 PM]
was created in 2013 afaik, he basically created hunger games for pocket edition

blade00000009 [11:14 PM]
Yep

[11:14]
Rocks can confirm

[11:14]
I was there

rocky [11:14 PM]
it gained traction, eventually his dad took it over and put it under hydreon

blade00000009 [11:15 PM]
I was all over the mcpe community back then.

rocky [11:15 PM]
which is his dads company

[11:15]
his dad in several interviews says they’re on track to hit their goal of selling 1m units of their fake tv stuff

[11:15]
which puts them at like 25m incoming cash, not profit and excluding taxes

[11:16]
now this was for 2014, so clearly by now they’re definitely making easy money, they’re all millionaires

[11:16]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL6njOThqbIox9OIN_PNyGLkHrN8Xd3Uud&v=D8OVZAOyJXI
 YouTube GREATER MSP
Interview with Rein Teder, Hydreon Corporation


[11:16]
you got this local tv interview on the guy, there are also ABC world news, new york time and some major news organizations with articles on this guy

hiveraven [11:16 PM]
Archy can suck their dick

rocky [11:16 PM]
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/31/garden/faketv-can-fool-intruders.html
 The New York Times By JOYCE COHEN
Stay Tuned for Another Flicker
A new gadget replicates a television’s winking light to scare off prowlers.



[11:16]
this is the new york times article

vladthegreat100 [11:16 PM]
So now we're being ran by someone who is selling fake tv's?

rocky [11:17 PM]
his kid is a senior in high school, as of feb this year

hiveraven [11:17 PM]
So what's the drama/issue?

blade00000009 [11:17 PM]
^

rocky [11:17 PM]
im getting to that

blade00000009 [11:18 PM]
Continue

rocky [11:18 PM]
shit gets hella strange

[11:19]
okay, so i keep looking into it, i notice these guys aren’t very careful with privacy

[11:19]
i found rein teders phone number, which happens to still work

hiveraven [11:19 PM]
can we save that for when I need another forum unban?

rocky [11:20 PM]
but then shit gets really weird

[11:20]
he’s actually, the dad has actually gone on social networking, tracked the parents of kids down who have been saying mean things on the internet

[11:20]
and calling out their parents

[11:21]
for some reason, not sure if this is religious but they have a super strict no swear policy, like up to the boot strap with rules

[11:21]
so i mean, they’re gonna clear out half the OCN community just like that

hiveraven [11:21 PM]
damn

rocky [11:21 PM]
like you say the word fuck, ur probably getting canned

vladthegreat100 [11:21 PM]
I kinda like it tbh

hiveraven [11:21 PM]
fuck that

rocky [11:21 PM]
but it gets even worse

vladthegreat100 [11:21 PM]
If you look at Avicus

rocky [11:21 PM]
it gets way way worse

vladthegreat100 [11:21 PM]
YOu can call people autistic

[11:21]
And not get banned

blade00000009 [11:23 PM]
Rocks

[11:23]
Continue

[11:23]
If i cant sweat

[11:23]
Swear

[11:23]
This is fucked up

[11:23]
wtf

[11:23]
fuck this shit

[11:24]
ryan

[11:24]
more

rocky [11:25 PM]
this is the kids octc profile https://oc.tc/williamtdr

[11:25]
this is the youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/MrWilliamTDR
 YouTube
williamtdr
I created and run LifeBoat Survival Games, the fully automatic Survival Games server for MCPE. Self-taught programmer. Thanks for checking out my youtube!



hiveraven [11:25 PM]
another dev for them

[11:25]
https://oc.tc/KnownUnown

rocky [11:26 PM]
this is their DUNNS number 094005050

[11:26]
his dads phone number is 952-943-2378

vladthegreat100 [11:26 PM]
@hiveraven Blackmail to get Admin

hiveraven [11:26 PM]
nah

rocky [11:26 PM]
he literally tweeted at this guy https://twitter.com/Clarkezone/with_replies
 twitter.com
Tweets with replies by James Clarke (@Clarkezone) | Twitter
The latest Tweets and replies from James Clarke (@Clarkezone). Passionate about Beautiful UI and High DPI. Engineering Windows UWP Composition API's, DWM and DComp at Microsoft; Dev on @bringcast. My opinions. Redmond, WA

hiveraven [11:26 PM]
sell to archy for admin

rocky [11:27 PM]
telling him his kid was acting up on the internet

[11:27]
like he fucking tracks kids parents down, and calls them out like that

[11:27]
also it gets worse

[11:27]
http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/04/minecraft-community-lifeboat-fails-remedial-password-security/
 Ars Technica
7 million unsalted MD5 passwords leaked by Minecraft community Lifeboat
Worse still, service recommended "short, but difficult to guess passwords." (268KB)

hiveraven [11:27 PM]
so we're looking at a rich, older, archybot

rocky [11:27 PM]
they got hit with an attack of 7 MILLION passwords compromised

[11:27]
because they were storing them as MD5, unsalted

hiveraven [11:28 PM]
so this is gonna be an adventure

[11:28]
buckle up boys

[11:28]
lets go on Lifeboat's wild ride

rocky [11:29 PM]
https://twitter.com/lifeboatmc/status/771107158050111490
 Lifeboat @lifeboatmc
@Felipuuu Lifeboat is constantly striving to do what's best for our community & with the re-branding of OCN it will be no different.
TwitterToday at 6:07 PM

[11:29]
they seem to bring re-branding up a lot

hiveraven [11:30 PM]
I mean that makes sense

rocky [11:30 PM]
they also contract out a map making team, which is really weird

[11:30]
https://twitter.com/AthionOfficial/with_replies
 twitter.com
Tweets with replies by Athion (@AthionOfficial) | Twitter
The latest Tweets and replies from Athion (@AthionOfficial). The Newest Age of Creative Minecraft Servers with a Prestige Build Team IP: http://play.athion.net | Business Skype: chamunks | Email: info@athion.net. Global

hiveraven [11:30 PM]
If they're smart they'll make an ocn mapmaking team

[11:30]
or atleast add members

[11:31]
because nix, strange, etc have mucho experience with this type of gamemode

rocky [11:32 PM]
not only are they incredibly careless with security, but they’re heavily motivated by money

[11:32]
don’t tolerate any sort of language, follow strong christian values, call out and track down the parents of kids who troll or act like idiots on the internet

[11:32]
etc, etc, etc

vladthegreat100 [11:32 PM]
I'm assuming they will keep the same developers

rocky [11:32 PM]
the community is going to be livid

vladthegreat100 [11:32 PM]
So I'm not too worried about security issues

rocky [11:33 PM]
he’s like archy, just archy is way more wild and he’s not

[11:33]
and he’s also got probably like 30 years on archy at least

[11:33]
there is more but i can’t confirm it so i can’t share it

[11:33]
also if you live in the EU try printing out that dunns report, I’d print it out here and look at the financials but it’d probably tell them I did so

[11:34]
oh and they got a pretty large team of lawyers, so its basically like corporate minecraft now

vladthegreat100 [11:34 PM]
I'll tickle their nutsack to let me sue them

hiveraven [11:34 PM]
ok so why do you want us keeping this in here?

[11:34]
also do the admins know about all this?

[11:35]
I feel like this is the type of thing parkway should know about

rocky [11:35 PM]
cause this guy is rich and i dont want to get into any of this

[11:35]
https://twitter.com/ReinTeder/status/499013636396818432
 Rein Teder @ReinTeder
@Clarkezone Please call me if this concerns you. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuzaQaOCcAE9-Ml.png
TwitterAug 11th, 2014 at 10:04 PM (1KB)

vladthegreat100 [11:35 PM]
Lets add em in here?

rocky [11:35 PM]
thats him calling one of the kids out, etc, etc

blade00000009 [11:35 PM]
Wow

hiveraven [11:36 PM]
so what do we do with this info?

[11:36]
I think it would be nice to let parkway know

vladthegreat100 [11:36 PM]
^

[11:36]
Can I add em in here

hiveraven [11:36 PM]
Although shit ocn > no ocn to be fair

rocky [11:36 PM]
we get the fuck out and go to badlion

vladthegreat100 [11:37 PM]
I'm adding parkway

[11:37]
If I get no objections

hiveraven [11:37 PM]
@vladthegreat100:

[11:37]
let rocky add

vladthegreat100 [11:37 PM]
rocky

[11:37]
add parkway

rocky [11:37 PM]
how do i add without deleting all of the chat

vladthegreat100 [11:37 PM]
./invite

[11:37]
Should work

[11:37]
I believe

[11:37]
I can do it if you want

rocky [11:37 PM]
go ahead

vladthegreat100 [11:38 PM]
shit

[11:38]
It won't save it

[11:38]
Has to be a private channel