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- [01:42] <********> hello
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- ******** is ********@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.******** * [www.kiwiirc.com] ********
- ******** on #0daycoins
- ******** using asimov.freenode.net TX, USA
- ******** has been idle 1sec, signed on Wed Jan 15 01:41:57
- ******** End of /WHOIS list.
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- [01:42] <********> you sent a msg to one of our freelancers
- [01:42] <********> about the 0daycoins
- [01:42] <********> alphaw0lf
- [01:43] <alphaw0lf> hey
- [01:43] <alphaw0lf> yes i did
- [01:43] <alphaw0lf> do u run the site?
- [01:43] <********> yes
- [01:43] <alphaw0lf> cuz i always thought it was him
- [01:43] <alphaw0lf> when we talked
- [01:44] <********> no
- [01:44] <********> he is just a nobody
- [01:44] <********> a freelancer
- [01:44] <********> you can talk business with me
- [01:44] <alphaw0lf> ok well
- [01:44] <alphaw0lf> as i was just telling ppl in the channel that were curious about our intentions...
- [01:44] <********> so you want to take over ?
- [01:44] <alphaw0lf> we want to take over and continue what u started
- [01:44] <********> ok
- [01:45] <********> what you offer ?
- [01:45] <alphaw0lf> give u a permanent cut with no labour responsibilities
- [01:45] <alphaw0lf> u would have access to financials
- [01:45] <alphaw0lf> and be able to monitor everything
- [01:45] <alphaw0lf> permanently
- [01:45] <alphaw0lf> we would:
- [01:45] <alphaw0lf> -expand site with old coins, but focus on having newest coins as first exchange for every coin
- [01:45] <alphaw0lf> -add ios/android apps for the site
- [01:46] <alphaw0lf> -add windows/linux apps
- [01:46] <alphaw0lf> -add 10 000 BTC + volume
- [01:46] <alphaw0lf> -get public acceptance
- [01:46] <alphaw0lf> -host servers
- [01:46] <alphaw0lf> -finance project
- [01:46] <alphaw0lf> u just collect
- [01:48] <********> how do i know you are legit ?
- [01:49] <alphaw0lf> people know me, my crew is already here u can have my id phone number, whatever u need if we work together
- [01:49] <alphaw0lf> u would like i said stay an admin
- [01:49] <alphaw0lf> on servers
- [01:49] <alphaw0lf> permanently
- [01:49] <alphaw0lf> on a loyalty to founder basis
- [01:49] <alphaw0lf> and to oversee financials as u please
- [01:50] <alphaw0lf> whatever u need
- [01:50] <alphaw0lf> we would be willing to provide
- [01:51] <alphaw0lf> its not unknown that i was trying to contact u, so since ive never discussed things with u, i could ask u the same thing. Are you
- able to post this string 8djsdsdSADdsf8dsfsdf#@$43djsadsf into a test file on the 0daycoins.com for me?
- [01:51] <alphaw0lf> at this point i would be willing to provide this information to u
- [01:51] <********> 0daycoins.com/proof.txt
- [01:52] <alphaw0lf> perfect
- [01:52] <alphaw0lf> so my name is ********* i am a freelancer in Berlin Germany
- [01:52] <alphaw0lf> *********
- [01:53] <********> ok
- [01:53] <alphaw0lf> i deal with crypto every day all day on the computer, and was actually just starting a new project today (details i cant discuss
- until its live next week) when i noticed u guys were shutting down and how disappointed alot of ppl were, i want to continue what u started like i
- said
- [01:54] <********> well, we were going to start over next week with new domain.
- [01:56] <alphaw0lf> i hope u dont and consider my proposal instead
- [01:57] <********> what is your proposal for me not continue with my business plan ?
- [01:57] <alphaw0lf> to let us continue 0daycoins.com and do the work for u... while u get paid and remain a part (participate as much as u want...)
- [01:58] <alphaw0lf> all the things i said above r things we can make happen.. not overnight of course but thats what we would be doing
- [02:01] <********> how much do we get as down payment for all this ? because truly saying we ain't looking for someone to do our jobs
- [02:02] <alphaw0lf> the developers that are available immediately dont have much but resources and labour to offer...
- [02:03] <alphaw0lf> i opped u in chan to give u the power what u like
- [02:03] <alphaw0lf> its up to u.. we would really like to continue the site tho... if u want to start a new site let us run this one for u
- [02:04] <alphaw0lf> instead of shutting it down
- [02:06] <********> you want the domain without the source code ?
- [02:07] <alphaw0lf> no we want the whole package... we can take the domain and put it into someone elses name if u want to do that, but we want to
- keep everything the way it is, including userbase
- [02:08] <alphaw0lf> no changes whatsoever except for expansion
- [02:10] <********> we can offer you a cut on 0daycoins.com, we run the system/exchange and you are the front person by your name
- [02:12] <alphaw0lf> i am definitely interested in that
- [02:13] <alphaw0lf> r u planning on keeping it legit? we would all have to swap ID's so everything stays legit
- [02:14] <********> We are legit and staying that way. Same for anonymity.
- [02:15] <alphaw0lf> ok, if ur not willing to do that, i can get us anonymous hosting and keep things running like i said earlier... i would represent
- the company as well, do whatever work u guys need to be done...
- [02:17] <alphaw0lf> i would be willing to go public with my name as well as official representation for media etc, however im only willing to do that
- when i know who im working with. if i dont, i must stay careful or i could end in serious trouble
- [02:17] <alphaw0lf> if things go bad
- [02:18] <alphaw0lf> i would want some level of transparency into ur plans so that i can represent u the best way possible as well
- [02:18] <alphaw0lf> would this work for u?
- [02:20] <********> We currently have a problem with 0daycoins only because kayne lawsuite, do you have solution for this ?
- [02:21] <alphaw0lf> i figured as much
- [02:21] <alphaw0lf> :(
- [02:21] <********> You are based in germany, can you take it on YOU ?
- [02:21] <alphaw0lf> i actually recently moved away from canada a year ago
- [02:21] <alphaw0lf> i would launch it there
- [02:21] <alphaw0lf> because im more familiar with the laws
- [02:21] <alphaw0lf> and i know they cant do anything to u
- [02:21] <alphaw0lf> since its parody
- [02:22] <alphaw0lf> i can still register things in canada and host them there
- [02:22] <alphaw0lf> that country is alot less bureucratic than germany
- [02:22] <alphaw0lf> and it would make things alot less painful
- [02:22] <********> but that won't help current situation
- [02:22] <alphaw0lf> as far as the law suit
- [02:22] <alphaw0lf> i first would let them come
- [02:22] <alphaw0lf> fully
- [02:22] <alphaw0lf> they cant sue
- [02:23] <alphaw0lf> they cant insist on cease and desist
- [02:23] <alphaw0lf> because theres no legal ground
- [02:23] <********> wait
- [02:23] <********> http://www.scribd.com/doc/199664565/Kanye-West-v-0DayCoins-and-Amazon-Coinye-Lawsuit
- [02:23] <********> read this
- [02:23] <alphaw0lf> u dont use coinye west
- [02:23] <alphaw0lf> u use coinye
- [02:23] <alphaw0lf> thats first big hole
- [02:23] <alphaw0lf> any lawyer would destroy
- [02:24] <alphaw0lf> this in a sec
- [02:24] <alphaw0lf> they r trying to scare u with nothing
- [02:24] <alphaw0lf> so yes
- [02:24] <alphaw0lf> i would fight this battle for u
- [02:24] <alphaw0lf> they dont scare me the least
- [02:24] <alphaw0lf> with their jokes
- [02:24] <alphaw0lf> and i will harvest the publicity
- [02:24] <alphaw0lf> to grow the exchange
- [02:26] <********> so we continue running the exchange, make a contact page with your credentials for this matter, and give you a cut ?
- [02:27] <alphaw0lf> why would we put any credentials
- [02:27] <alphaw0lf> ill run it anonymously
- [02:27] <alphaw0lf> let them try to find us first
- [02:27] <alphaw0lf> ;)
- [02:28] <alphaw0lf> make it hard on them
- [02:28] <alphaw0lf> while i approach some lawyers
- [02:28] <alphaw0lf> u transfer domain
- [02:28] <alphaw0lf> anonymously
- [02:28] <alphaw0lf> and announce site sold
- [02:28] <alphaw0lf> i reopen
- [02:28] <alphaw0lf> also with official press release
- [02:29] <alphaw0lf> we can take this to other countries like india as well
- [02:29] <alphaw0lf> id be willing to take this battle once ive spoken to some lawyers .. then we can publish my id
- [02:30] <********> when can you give us an answer regarding this ?
- [02:30] <alphaw0lf> id need til end of next week at the most... i might be able to get answers tomorrow
- [02:31] <alphaw0lf> ill call some hollywood lawyers ;)
- [02:31] <alphaw0lf> theyll jump on thi
- [02:31] <alphaw0lf> s
- [02:31] <alphaw0lf> i just cant make promises cuz these guys r always real busy
- [02:31] <alphaw0lf> so a few days minimum
- [02:31] <alphaw0lf> max 1.5 weeks
- [02:31] <********> ok
- [02:32] <alphaw0lf> i would like to get site online anonymously as quickly as possible and issue press release that 0daycoins.com is shutdown and sold
- to anonymous buyer
- [02:32] <alphaw0lf> we do the transfer
- [02:32] <alphaw0lf> bring it online asap
- [02:32] <alphaw0lf> with new press release
- [02:33] <alphaw0lf> couple days after
- [02:33] <alphaw0lf> ddos protection, the works
- [02:34] <********> until we don't see the whole picture we are going to stick to our plan.
- [02:34] <alphaw0lf> what would be the whole picture? just the lawyers response?
- [02:34] <********> yes
- [02:35] <alphaw0lf> i will start making calls immediately
- [02:35] <alphaw0lf> what would be my cut in all of this
- [02:35] <alphaw0lf> work wise and pay wise
- [02:35] <alphaw0lf> like how much of a say would i have about changes/updates
- [02:35] <********> 5%.
- [02:36] <********> you can advice on changes/updates
- [02:36] <alphaw0lf> so i wouldnt do any work? my team would not be a part?
- [02:38] <********> your work is to be our presentor, regarding you/team - we can use you for several external jobs
- [02:39] <alphaw0lf> ok... 5% sounds quite low, what was your revenue like since you launched so i can get a feel for what 5% will look like in the
- future
- [02:40] <********> we made 100$/day
- [02:41] <alphaw0lf> u were open for 1 week right
- [02:41] <********> less
- [02:41] <alphaw0lf> would i be able to monitor financials?
- [02:41] <alphaw0lf> so i know im getting paid fairly
- [02:41] <alphaw0lf> ?
- [02:41] <********> yes
- [02:42] <alphaw0lf> ok...
- [02:42] <alphaw0lf> so i will talk to some lawyers
- [02:42] <alphaw0lf> for now
- [02:42] <alphaw0lf> see what they say about all of this
- [02:43] <alphaw0lf> and if i can make this work we will get er going... 5% is still quite low... would u consider giving me more if i get things
- running the way i promised
- [02:43] <alphaw0lf> ?
- [02:43] <********> to make things clear, regarding kayne lawyers, you taking care of all this lawyers expenses
- [02:46] <alphaw0lf> if i can get us free permanent representation id need to be able to offer the lawyer a cut from the company as well
- [02:46] <alphaw0lf> at 5% theres nothing to share lol
- [02:46] <alphaw0lf> so what would u be willing to offer for something like that
- [02:46] <alphaw0lf> if i can get it
- [02:48] <********> you can get 7% total and devide it with the lawyer as you want
- [02:48] <alphaw0lf> that wont be enough for them, + this wont be the last time u need legal support
- [02:48] <alphaw0lf> i can offer it
- [02:49] <alphaw0lf> but that wont be enough.. lawyers are greedy :/
- [02:49] <alphaw0lf> i will make some calls and get back to u.. how can i reach u
- [02:50] <********> ********
- [02:51] <alphaw0lf> ok ill msg u there when i have some more information
- [02:51] <********> ok
- [02:51] <alphaw0lf> would u be willing to id urself to the lawyer in regards to % sharing? cuz hes gonna want a contract with u most likely ...
- [02:51] <alphaw0lf> if he agrees to take the case
- [02:52] <********> no
- [02:52] <alphaw0lf> theres no way anyone can guarantee that the money wont simply disappear in a shutdown one day
- [02:52] <alphaw0lf> if that happens people (the lawyer and me) goto jail
- [02:52] <alphaw0lf> u dont
- [02:53] <alphaw0lf> as well, noone can verify their partial ownership
- [02:53] <alphaw0lf> without contracts of some sort
- [02:53] <alphaw0lf> he can represent u in court anonymously
- [02:53] <alphaw0lf> not court
- [02:53] <alphaw0lf> but as a trial defendant
- [02:53] <alphaw0lf> whatever u want to call it
- [02:54] <alphaw0lf> but he will want a contract im sure of it
- [02:54] <alphaw0lf> any lawyer will
- [02:54] <alphaw0lf> ur asking the impossible im afraid
- [02:54] <alphaw0lf> u never have to id urself to me
- [02:54] <********> for us there is no lawyer, we know only you and for him there is no us
- [02:54] <alphaw0lf> but to him/her u most certainly would
- [02:55] <alphaw0lf> like i said that impossible, sounds truely shady as well lol.. why dont u just run the site anonymously and host it in sweden via
- government hosting
- [02:55] <********> as far as everybody including the lawyer concerned, you are the owner
- [02:56] <alphaw0lf> they will protect this like wikileaks
- [02:56] <alphaw0lf> ;)
- [02:56] <alphaw0lf> then if site is hacked or things go south i dont goto jail
- [02:56] <alphaw0lf> and we dont even need a lawyer
- [02:56] <alphaw0lf> run like piratebay and all the others u know
- [02:56] <alphaw0lf> let them sue who they dont know
- [03:02] <********> we will need to consider all this before we proceed, you can update us here : ********
- [03:04] <alphaw0lf> ok ill talk to lawyers
- [03:04] <alphaw0lf> and then we can decide
- [03:05] <alphaw0lf> ;)
- [03:05] <alphaw0lf> ill let u know
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