(Sat/12:17:00 PM) <%mw|away> ok
(Sat/12:17:10 PM) <%mw|away> who wants their team rated first
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(Sat/12:22:06 PM) Molk: me
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(Sat/12:22:14 PM) <%mw|away> pastebin it
(Sat/12:22:24 PM) Molk: http://pastebin.com/dawGkCA6
(Sat/12:22:37 PM) Molk: dark horse team
(Sat/12:22:42 PM) Molk: so far i hit 1275
(Sat/12:23:27 PM) SP: i think mixvire sweeps that team
(Sat/12:23:33 PM) D4RR3N: lol
(Sat/12:23:57 PM) SP: team could use some more diversity
(Sat/12:24:05 PM) SP: 3 steels and 2 mulky waters
(Sat/12:24:07 PM) SP: bulky*
(Sat/12:24:20 PM) SP: is a really compacted team
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(Sat/12:24:37 PM) harsha2014: sorry i'm late
(Sat/12:24:38 PM) harsha2014: -_-
(Sat/12:24:44 PM) Molk: so far
(Sat/12:24:53 PM) Molk: i know my team isnt terrible
(Sat/12:24:53 PM) SP: I think slowbro is replaceable
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(Sat/12:25:10 PM) Molk: its my check to terrakion
(Sat/12:25:17 PM) Molk: and to an extent mamo
(Sat/12:25:23 PM) harsha2014: SP = San_Pellegrino right?
(Sat/12:25:46 PM) harsha2014: can i see the team?
(Sat/12:25:51 PM) Molk: is there something else that can take mutiple hits from terrakion?
(Sat/12:25:58 PM) SP: http://pastebin.com/dawGkCA6
(Sat/12:25:59 PM) harsha2014: gliscor
(Sat/12:26:02 PM) harsha2014: thanks
(Sat/12:26:08 PM) SP: Stall breaker mew
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(Sat/12:26:20 PM) harsha2014: oh yeah that
(Sat/12:26:23 PM) SP: since you don't have to worry about the rock type hits
(Sat/12:26:24 PM) harsha2014: 's always cool
(Sat/12:26:57 PM) Molk: does it open up any holes?
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(Sat/12:27:41 PM) harsha2014: no not really. dark type hits are covered by virizion and skarm and heatran
(Sat/12:27:47 PM) harsha2014: ghost is covered by steels
(Sat/12:27:48 PM) SP: you are more suspectible to azu
(Sat/12:27:58 PM) harsha2014: hmm
(Sat/12:27:59 PM) SP: in rain esp.
(Sat/12:28:07 PM) Molk: and dragmag
(Sat/12:28:07 PM) SP: if you get mew you beat all sand teams
(Sat/12:28:19 PM) SP: how are you more weak to dragmag lol
(Sat/12:28:34 PM) Molk: slowbro can take boosted outrages
(Sat/12:28:39 PM) Molk: from shit
(Sat/12:28:42 PM) D4RR3N: this team actually handles dragmag pretty decently
(Sat/12:28:43 PM) SP: mew beats Hax without lum and has a 75% chance of burn
(Sat/12:28:53 PM) D4RR3N: but if you're still afraid of dragmag, run shed shell on skarm
(Sat/12:28:56 PM) SP: while you have skarm and heatran to tank
(Sat/12:28:56 PM) Molk: okay
(Sat/12:28:56 PM) D4RR3N: best solution
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(Sat/12:29:12 PM) Molk: so stallbreaker mew>slowbro
(Sat/12:29:32 PM) Molk: brb im doing a calc to see if mew can take two SE's from CB terrakion
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(Sat/12:30:23 PM) %San_Pellegrino: no
(Sat/12:30:41 PM) %San_Pellegrino: and it doesn't need to
(Sat/12:30:42 PM) harsha2014: you have rachi to take that
(Sat/12:30:51 PM) harsha2014: -_____-
(Sat/12:30:53 PM) %San_Pellegrino: uh not jirachi
(Sat/12:30:58 PM) Molk: it can if rocks arent up
(Sat/12:31:01 PM) Molk: =-D
(Sat/12:31:03 PM) %San_Pellegrino: since he doesn't run recovery
(Sat/12:31:06 PM) harsha2014: oh right
(Sat/12:31:11 PM) harsha2014: forgot he's not running wish
(Sat/12:31:17 PM) %San_Pellegrino: you don't have a spinner so i assumed rocks are up
(Sat/12:31:25 PM) Rewer: mew is the best mon ever
(Sat/12:31:27 PM) Rewer: js
(Sat/12:31:30 PM) ShakeItUp: more than rocks will be up a lot of the time too
(Sat/12:31:35 PM) Molk: mew IS awesome
(Sat/12:31:36 PM) %San_Pellegrino: bbl
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(Sat/12:31:48 PM) Molk: shut up shakeitup i kicked your ass
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(Sat/12:32:00 PM) Molk: jk your cool
(Sat/12:32:00 PM) D4RR3N: lol
(Sat/12:32:01 PM) ShakeItUp: lol
(Sat/12:32:04 PM) Rewer: and it does has a shot to take
(Sat/12:32:06 PM) Rewer: 2 stones
(Sat/12:32:08 PM) Rewer: from terrak
(Sat/12:32:27 PM) D4RR3N: plus stone edge has shitty accuracy
(Sat/12:32:27 PM) Molk: yea it has a 20% chance to
(Sat/12:32:29 PM) D4RR3N: so dw bout it
(Sat/12:32:31 PM) Rewer: then roost as the likely miss happens
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(Sat/12:33:00 PM) D4RR3N: watch out for the random x scissor tho
(Sat/12:33:10 PM) D4RR3N: that shit 2hkos iirc
(Sat/12:33:15 PM) Rewer: then you switch out
(Sat/12:33:17 PM) Rewer: and recover mew
(Sat/12:33:19 PM) Rewer: vs someone else
(Sat/12:33:22 PM) Rewer: no big deal
(Sat/12:33:30 PM) Molk: yeah mew is cool
(Sat/12:33:33 PM) D4RR3N: just that his mew is left at 50%
(Sat/12:33:38 PM) Rewer: you should have a rock resist though
(Sat/12:33:42 PM) D4RR3N: just something to watch out for
(Sat/12:37:26 PM) Molk: wait what about infernape
(Sat/12:38:01 PM) D4RR3N: good question
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(Sat/01:13:24 PM) %Delko: has this started yet?
(Sat/01:13:25 PM) <%mw|away> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4136088#post4136088
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(Sat/01:13:41 PM) <%mw|away> since he wanted his team to be rated
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(Sat/01:14:20 PM) %Delko: who is participating?
(Sat/01:14:37 PM) <%mw|away> i guess only us
(Sat/01:14:42 PM) <%mw|away> since no one else is responding
(Sat/01:15:14 PM) %Delko: lol fine
(Sat/01:15:44 PM) %Delko: so threats are landorus, rotom-w, starmie, terrakion, lucario and sun
(Sat/01:16:11 PM) Karpman: wait what is this for?
(Sat/01:16:16 PM) <%mw|away> rmt workshop
(Sat/01:16:21 PM) Karpman: oh
(Sat/01:16:22 PM) <%mw|away> for march
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(Sat/01:17:52 PM) %Delko: sun is always a big problem for a non-weather team though
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(Sat/01:18:12 PM) <%mw|away> especially for offense
(Sat/01:18:23 PM) <%mw|away> hmm
(Sat/01:18:38 PM) <%mw|away> i dropped a rate awhile ago, guess didn't worked out for him
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(Sat/01:19:01 PM) %Delko: yeah i see
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(Sat/01:19:11 PM) Karpman: not a rater, but he could try cb nite and scarf terrak
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(Sat/01:19:54 PM) &Porygon2: [Eternal] SHARK ATTACK!
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(Sat/01:20:16 PM) %Delko: hmm
(Sat/01:20:32 PM) %Delko: that doesn't solve his threatlist though
(Sat/01:21:31 PM) %Delko: i guess scarf magnezone can work for double priority lucario and starmie
(Sat/01:21:42 PM) Karpman: helps with sun
(Sat/01:21:48 PM) <%mw|away> doesn't outspeeds timid starmie tho
(Sat/01:21:51 PM) Karpman: more so than mence at least ;(
(Sat/01:21:56 PM) <%mw|away> misses by one point
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(Sat/01:23:44 PM) <%mw|away> i think magnezone or salamence needs to be replaced
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(Sat/01:24:13 PM) %Delko: .
(Sat/01:24:23 PM) %Delko: damn lag
(Sat/01:24:34 PM) NatGeo: delko can you link the thread?
(Sat/01:24:42 PM) <%mw|away> http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4136088#post4136088
(Sat/01:24:43 PM) %Delko: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4136088#post4136088
(Sat/01:24:53 PM) %Delko: hehe
(Sat/01:25:15 PM) NatGeo: 9.9
(Sat/01:25:18 PM) Karpman: does anyone know how many evs gastro needs to survive cb terrak cc
(Sat/01:25:22 PM) <%mw|away> drama on pokebeach lol
(Sat/01:25:23 PM) Karpman: I remember it was like 12 or something
(Sat/01:25:25 PM) Karpman: lol ya
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(Sat/01:25:34 PM) %Delko: i would run taunt on azelf though
(Sat/01:25:36 PM) Karpman: still going at it
(Sat/01:25:39 PM) %Delko: over ice punch probably
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(Sat/01:25:52 PM) <%mw|away> yea
(Sat/01:26:03 PM) Molk: sorry for interrupting
(Sat/01:26:07 PM) <%mw|away> nice his only move would be explosion
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(Sat/01:26:14 PM) %Delko: explosion still takes care of dragonite, virizion etc
(Sat/01:26:19 PM) <%mw|away> he should try normal gem or sash
(Sat/01:26:23 PM) Molk: but i think im going to keep slowbro
(Sat/01:26:24 PM) %Delko: he also has u-turn
(Sat/01:26:33 PM) %Delko: what team molk?
(Sat/01:26:33 PM) Molk: on my team
(Sat/01:26:41 PM) Molk: http://pastebin.com/dawGkCA6
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(Sat/01:27:00 PM) %Delko: any weaknesses?
(Sat/01:27:02 PM) Molk: taunt wow mew opened me up to infernape and darmanitan too much
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(Sat/01:27:11 PM) Molk: sun teams+dugtrio
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(Sat/01:27:25 PM) Molk: is the only thing im having an issue with
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(Sat/01:27:37 PM) <%mw|away> i don't think mew is necessary
(Sat/01:27:37 PM) %Delko: you can always try shed shell on heatran
(Sat/01:27:46 PM) razza: What is the team?
(Sat/01:27:49 PM) <%mw|away> http://pastebin.com/dawGkCA6
(Sat/01:28:04 PM) Molk: got me to the high 1200's so far
(Sat/01:28:23 PM) Karpman: molk, have you considered using sd virizion with hp ice? it destroys rain stall and lures gliscor to open up a jriach i sweep
(Sat/01:28:33 PM) Karpman: jirachi*
(Sat/01:28:34 PM) %Delko: again, sun teams are always the hardest for non-weather teams
(Sat/01:28:49 PM) Molk: usually heatran takes them
(Sat/01:28:53 PM) Molk: but ugh
(Sat/01:28:56 PM) razza: You look like you have a hard time breaking Chansey
(Sat/01:28:58 PM) Molk: dugtrio
(Sat/01:29:00 PM) Karpman: yeah dugtrio forces you into a corner
(Sat/01:29:01 PM) Molk: is a bitch
(Sat/01:29:02 PM) %Delko: you can always try shed shell
(Sat/01:29:04 PM) NatGeo: ^
(Sat/01:29:12 PM) <%mw|away> jirachi beats chansey
(Sat/01:29:17 PM) Molk: breaking chansey isnt hard
(Sat/01:29:22 PM) NatGeo: actually if he has problems with chansey + dug
(Sat/01:29:25 PM) <%mw|away> + hazards
(Sat/01:29:25 PM) NatGeo: heatrap maybe?
(Sat/01:29:35 PM) razza: if they have a tyranitar
(Sat/01:29:38 PM) NatGeo: mw thoughts on heatrap
(Sat/01:29:42 PM) NatGeo: ?_?
(Sat/01:29:42 PM) razza: Or heatran
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(Sat/01:29:50 PM) razza: They can wall Jirachi
(Sat/01:29:53 PM) Karpman: is heatrap the magma storm taunt thing
(Sat/01:29:54 PM) Molk: jirachi is beast btw
(Sat/01:29:55 PM) Karpman: that grimm used
(Sat/01:30:02 PM) %Delko: yes
(Sat/01:30:03 PM) NatGeo: yeah karpman
(Sat/01:30:05 PM) razza: Yeh
(Sat/01:30:11 PM) NatGeo: its an old dpp set but its a good one
(Sat/01:30:15 PM) Molk: it 6-0es so many teams
(Sat/01:30:16 PM) Molk: :3
(Sat/01:30:17 PM) Karpman: seems alright yeah
(Sat/01:30:18 PM) razza: Needs the sun boost to win in most cases
(Sat/01:30:19 PM) <%mw|away> hmm
(Sat/01:30:24 PM) NatGeo: yeah razza
(Sat/01:30:26 PM) <%mw|away> yea
(Sat/01:30:28 PM) %Delko: but sun would be preferred with heatrap
(Sat/01:30:29 PM) Karpman: I think you should definitely have more means of putting pressure on subcm rachi's counters
(Sat/01:30:32 PM) NatGeo: true
(Sat/01:30:38 PM) razza: have you tried substitute heatran?
(Sat/01:30:44 PM) NatGeo: ah!
(Sat/01:30:48 PM) Karpman: since you're using a stallbreaker as a means of beating stall
(Sat/01:30:54 PM) Karpman: as opposed to a spinner+spikes
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(Sat/01:31:18 PM) Molk: i actually put jirachi cause reun and latias were raping my team
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(Sat/01:31:46 PM) Molk: it just happens to be the MVP 99% of the time
(Sat/01:32:06 PM) Molk: if i can break 1300 with this ill be happy
(Sat/01:32:13 PM) NatGeo: yea subcm jirachi is just a solid mon in general
(Sat/01:32:14 PM) Molk: then ill go for top 80
(Sat/01:32:34 PM) %Delko: who's the darkhorse on that team?
(Sat/01:32:39 PM) Molk: virizion
(Sat/01:32:40 PM) <%mw|away> virizion
(Sat/01:32:44 PM) %Delko: oh
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(Sat/01:32:58 PM) Molk: i still dont get why people dont use it
(Sat/01:33:06 PM) <%mw|away> they do use it
(Sat/01:33:10 PM) Molk: its a beast if you send it in at the right time
(Sat/01:33:15 PM) Molk: its barely OU atm
(Sat/01:33:21 PM) Molk: so is slowbro
(Sat/01:33:26 PM) razza: Have you thought of a 4 attacks mixed set on Virizion
(Sat/01:33:41 PM) NatGeo: or just work up
(Sat/01:33:46 PM) Molk: i thought of work up+3 attacks
(Sat/01:33:52 PM) razza: I find that Virizion is too frail to set up reliably
(Sat/01:33:52 PM) NatGeo: cc / giga drain / hp fire maybe?
(Sat/01:34:03 PM) razza: stone edge
(Sat/01:34:04 PM) %Delko: meh
(Sat/01:34:04 PM) Molk: nah ice
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(Sat/01:34:09 PM) %Delko: fire will bullet punch
(Sat/01:34:11 PM) %Delko: *scizor
(Sat/01:34:18 PM) NatGeo: yea
(Sat/01:34:18 PM) razza: To alleviate your hp ground Volc weakness slightly
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(Sat/01:34:42 PM) %Delko: gastrodon does decently against that
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(Sat/01:35:14 PM) Molk: sub/firedance/quiver dance/hp ground volc
(Sat/01:35:18 PM) Molk: would 6-0 me
(Sat/01:35:29 PM) %Delko: noone uses that
(Sat/01:35:34 PM) Molk: i know
(Sat/01:35:36 PM) %Delko: they all run bug buzz somewhere ;)
(Sat/01:35:39 PM) razza: 3 attacks lum with hp ground 6-0s
(Sat/01:35:58 PM) %Delko: okay
(Sat/01:36:04 PM) %Delko: what about air balloon heatran
(Sat/01:36:11 PM) Molk: i wonder if don can take a +1 volc bug buzz
(Sat/01:36:13 PM) %Delko: also prevents dugtrio from trapping
(Sat/01:36:23 PM) Molk: hmm
(Sat/01:36:25 PM) Karpman: spdef usually needs the lefties
(Sat/01:36:26 PM) Molk: offensive?
(Sat/01:36:40 PM) Molk: cause spD needs lefties badly
(Sat/01:36:48 PM) %Delko: well
(Sat/01:36:56 PM) %Delko: you can make jirachi a bulky cm with wish
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(Sat/01:37:11 PM) %Delko: to heal heatran a bit i suppose
(Sat/01:37:16 PM) Molk: hmmm
(Sat/01:37:24 PM) %Delko: same moveset just wish over sub
(Sat/01:37:28 PM) Molk: toxic immunity helps quite a bit
(Sat/01:37:29 PM) Karpman: I've found jirachi needs the sub in order to break stall
(Sat/01:37:31 PM) Molk: with that
(Sat/01:37:45 PM) Karpman: like he'd have to play very good against stall if he did that, because he has no spinner
(Sat/01:38:14 PM) Molk: there was no room for one ;_;
(Sat/01:38:23 PM) Karpman: yeah I know
(Sat/01:38:29 PM) Karpman: I find myself in the same situation a lot
(Sat/01:38:45 PM) <%mw|away> gamefreak needs more magic bounce mons
(Sat/01:39:40 PM) Molk: gamefreak needs to give virizion 5 moveslots so i can run subCM+3 attacks :(
(Sat/01:39:41 PM) razza: Yeh preferably to something with baton pass as well
(Sat/01:39:57 PM) Eo: lol
(Sat/01:40:06 PM) Eo: release magic bounce + bp xatu
(Sat/01:40:29 PM) %Delko: bp = baton pass?
(Sat/01:40:37 PM) %Delko: might as well run espeon then
(Sat/01:40:40 PM) razza: I got raped by a guy using assist power xatu on a bp chain in UU
(Sat/01:40:47 PM) razza: He passed to it on roar
(Sat/01:41:02 PM) razza: And then cm up and just 6-0ed
(Sat/01:42:06 PM) Molk: i do that weith musharna in NU
(Sat/01:42:29 PM) Molk: i got to 1500 >_>
(Sat/01:42:41 PM) razza: what's NU like?
(Sat/01:42:53 PM) razza: I've never tried any tiers under UU
(Sat/01:42:56 PM) Karpman: it's a pretty fun meta
(Sat/01:42:57 PM) %Delko: okay, i think you have had enough suggestions
(Sat/01:42:58 PM) <%mw|away> anyways back to the rate
(Sat/01:43:05 PM) %Delko: lets do that other team again
(Sat/01:43:08 PM) %Delko: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4136088#post4136088
(Sat/01:43:21 PM) Molk: absol, jynx, magmortar are very common
(Sat/01:43:32 PM) Karpman: when you guys finish there, would you mind taking a look at my team?
(Sat/01:43:34 PM) Molk: mostly offensive
(Sat/01:43:40 PM) %Delko: yeah sure
(Sat/01:43:46 PM) %Delko: pastbin it
(Sat/01:43:55 PM) D4RR3N: i have one too
(Sat/01:44:05 PM) %Delko: all ou?
(Sat/01:44:13 PM) razza: Is thus an rmt lecture?
(Sat/01:44:17 PM) <%mw|away> yes
(Sat/01:44:17 PM) D4RR3N: mhm ou
(Sat/01:44:42 PM) Karpman: http://pastebin.com/bf0tik3S
(Sat/01:44:55 PM) D4RR3N: http://pastebin.com/efKdurJE
(Sat/01:45:20 PM) %Delko: alright, karpman first then
(Sat/01:45:33 PM) Molk: karpman
(Sat/01:45:34 PM) %Delko: ew, rain stall
(Sat/01:45:38 PM) %Delko: any problems?
(Sat/01:45:46 PM) razza: What's scizors role?
(Sat/01:45:49 PM) Karpman: I've only used it in a few matches aginst some friends
(Sat/01:45:49 PM) Molk: dont run roar
(Sat/01:45:53 PM) Karpman: on what?
(Sat/01:45:55 PM) D4RR3N: oh karpman
(Sat/01:45:56 PM) Karpman: um Scizor
(Sat/01:45:58 PM) Molk: now latias 6-0es me
(Sat/01:46:00 PM) Molk: ;_;
(Sat/01:46:02 PM) D4RR3N: why not recover on latias?
(Sat/01:46:14 PM) %Delko: because roost is cooler ;)
(Sat/01:46:16 PM) Karpman: does the same thing as roost
(Sat/01:46:17 PM) Karpman: lol
(Sat/01:46:19 PM) Karpman: anyways
(Sat/01:46:23 PM) D4RR3N: doesnt roost makes it grounded?
(Sat/01:46:25 PM) %Delko: nope
(Sat/01:46:29 PM) D4RR3N: o
(Sat/01:46:29 PM) Karpman: Scizor gives me an extra and arguably more solid check to rank and latias
(Sat/01:46:33 PM) %Delko: although people tend to think that
(Sat/01:46:35 PM) Karpman: and is a pseudo-revenge killr
(Sat/01:46:39 PM) Karpman: killer*
(Sat/01:46:41 PM) razza: Try sableye
(Sat/01:46:42 PM) Karpman: yeah roost is sexier
(Sat/01:46:44 PM) razza: Maybe
(Sat/01:46:49 PM) razza: Cm reun counter
(Sat/01:46:52 PM) %Delko: why latias then?
(Sat/01:46:54 PM) Karpman: ehh I'm really iffy on using sableye
(Sat/01:46:58 PM) razza: And spinblocker
(Sat/01:47:02 PM) Karpman: yeah
(Sat/01:47:03 PM) Karpman: I know
(Sat/01:47:03 PM) razza: Max speed
(Sat/01:47:06 PM) Karpman: I can see it working
(Sat/01:47:11 PM) razza: Spdef*
(Sat/01:47:28 PM) razza: will prevent boring stall wars
(Sat/01:47:36 PM) Karpman: I mainly just threw latias on there because it has a nice core with skarm, but it's a great antiweather mon and check to all other cmers, plus its like a secondary special wall
(Sat/01:47:51 PM) razza: but that opens you up to rotom-w a bit
(Sat/01:48:01 PM) Karpman: yeah if I play badly vs volt turn
(Sat/01:48:03 PM) Karpman: it could be annoying
(Sat/01:48:18 PM) %Delko: could always try dragonite instead
(Sat/01:48:24 PM) razza: You need a rock resist
(Sat/01:48:26 PM) razza: I think
(Sat/01:48:30 PM) Karpman: yeah I do razza
(Sat/01:48:30 PM) razza: Ferro
(Sat/01:48:36 PM) razza: Over Scizor
(Sat/01:48:41 PM) <%mw|away> well you could also try sub toxic tenta
(Sat/01:48:42 PM) Karpman: I was thinking of that
(Sat/01:48:43 PM) %Delko: hmm
(Sat/01:48:43 PM) razza: With leech seed and sr
(Sat/01:48:51 PM) Karpman: but they dont have th esame role really
(Sat/01:48:52 PM) razza: And then sableye over latias
(Sat/01:48:54 PM) Karpman: eh I want my tspikes
(Sat/01:48:59 PM) %Delko: quagsire over scizor can also work
(Sat/01:49:00 PM) razza: So your not rotom-w weak
(Sat/01:49:03 PM) Karpman: but yeah I definitely have the same thoughts razza
(Sat/01:49:42 PM) razza: Give Chansey wish or heal bell over sr
(Sat/01:49:57 PM) Karpman: what else is sring then
(Sat/01:50:00 PM) razza: If you use Ferro
(Sat/01:50:03 PM) Karpman: o ya
(Sat/01:50:05 PM) Karpman: I would
(Sat/01:50:06 PM) Karpman: x)
(Sat/01:50:43 PM) D4RR3N: inb4 "this team is weak to mixvire"
(Sat/01:51:05 PM) %Delko: the team is very similar to this one http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3463660
(Sat/01:51:20 PM) %Delko: so the suggestions will also be the same
(Sat/01:51:25 PM) Karpman: never seen it lol
(Sat/01:51:58 PM) Karpman: I just kind of felt like making a rain stall that wasn't similar to rain man or ir
(Sat/01:52:05 PM) razza: That guy has no rock resist
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(Sat/01:53:03 PM) %Delko: by rock resists you mean terrakion counter? ;)
(Sat/01:53:36 PM) razza: Yeh
(Sat/01:53:38 PM) Karpman: ya
(Sat/01:53:39 PM) Karpman: so it cant
(Sat/01:53:41 PM) Karpman: spam stone edge
(Sat/01:53:46 PM) razza: Cb Terrakion 2hko everything
(Sat/01:54:08 PM) %Delko: true
(Sat/01:54:19 PM) D4RR3N: with an exception of like, eviolite gligar?
(Sat/01:54:29 PM) %Delko: well
(Sat/01:54:43 PM) %Delko: steels and ground types can take stone edges for days
(Sat/01:55:29 PM) %Delko: spin blocker golurk ;)
(Sat/01:55:43 PM) D4RR3N: and, claydol?
(Sat/01:55:51 PM) %Delko: probably
(Sat/01:55:59 PM) %Delko: they both are still 2HKO'ed iirc
(Sat/01:56:06 PM) %Delko: or close anyway
(Sat/01:56:07 PM) D4RR3N: uhh
(Sat/01:56:12 PM) D4RR3N: stone edge does around 40%
(Sat/01:56:14 PM) D4RR3N: to golurk
(Sat/01:56:19 PM) %Delko: yup
(Sat/01:56:44 PM) D4RR3N: claydol more on less takes pretty much same damage from it
(Sat/01:56:53 PM) %Delko: btw, can anyone save this log please
(Sat/01:56:59 PM) <%mw|away> i am
(Sat/01:57:05 PM) %Delko: good ;)
(Sat/01:57:10 PM) <%mw|away> tutoring and being here is hard lol
(Sat/01:57:22 PM) %Delko: pff, darrens team is also pretty similar
(Sat/01:57:30 PM) %Delko: who is your tutee?
(Sat/01:57:37 PM) <%mw|away> Olympus
(Sat/01:57:45 PM) %Delko: don't know him
(Sat/01:57:50 PM) %Delko: good or beginner?
(Sat/01:57:55 PM) <%mw|away> we just finished a team, solid 2 hour session
(Sat/01:58:04 PM) <%mw|away> beginner
(Sat/01:58:10 PM) %Delko: built a team on the first lesson
(Sat/01:58:14 PM) %Delko: nice
(Sat/01:58:38 PM) %Delko: anyway, karpman, got some useful suggestions?
(Sat/02:00:21 PM) %Delko: .
(Sat/02:00:28 PM) %Delko: i think you did ;)
(Sat/02:00:36 PM) %Delko: k, darrens next right
(Sat/02:00:36 PM) %Delko: http://pastebin.com/efKdurJE
(Sat/02:01:09 PM) %Delko: any probems?
(Sat/02:01:13 PM) %Delko: *problems
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(Sat/02:01:30 PM) Karpman: hmm
(Sat/02:01:33 PM) Karpman: which team is this?
(Sat/02:01:44 PM) D4RR3N: sub cm rachi gives me a ton of problems, especially those with psychic
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(Sat/02:02:24 PM) Karpman: heh gotta go, I'll give your team a look later if you want darren
(Sat/02:02:31 PM) razza: Try encore on Poli
(Sat/02:02:33 PM) D4RR3N: eh sure
(Sat/02:02:34 PM) razza: Maybe
(Sat/02:02:44 PM) D4RR3N: over hypnosis?
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(Sat/02:02:52 PM) D4RR3N: well i was thinking of putting in surf there
(Sat/02:03:02 PM) D4RR3N: since hydro's accuracy really pisses me off
(Sat/02:03:16 PM) razza: Over perish song
(Sat/02:03:35 PM) D4RR3N: perish deals with baton pass easier
(Sat/02:03:36 PM) razza: And use scald over hypnosis
(Sat/02:03:47 PM) D4RR3N: and uhh...
(Sat/02:03:49 PM) %Delko: or, bulldoze on ferrothorn
(Sat/02:03:51 PM) D4RR3N: perish also helps me a lil
(Sat/02:03:54 PM) D4RR3N: against sub cm rachi
(Sat/02:03:57 PM) razza: Volcarona should take bp easily
(Sat/02:04:27 PM) razza: Bulldoze needs like 100 Evs at least to break rachi subs
(Sat/02:04:38 PM) %Delko: haze works better for baton pass, js
(Sat/02:05:13 PM) D4RR3N: is the lose of bulk worth it to allow ferro to break rachi's subs?
(Sat/02:05:31 PM) D4RR3N: and sup ala
(Sat/02:05:31 PM) razza: not really
(Sat/02:05:41 PM) %Delko: it isn't
(Sat/02:06:01 PM) D4RR3N: that's why i'm thinking maybe if theres another way to deal with it
(Sat/02:06:07 PM) D4RR3N: other then perishing it with toed
(Sat/02:06:12 PM) D4RR3N: then have problems next time it sets up
(Sat/02:06:16 PM) razza: You really need Ferro bulky for rotom-w
(Sat/02:06:18 PM) +ala: hey d4rr3n :D
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(Sat/02:08:35 PM) D4RR3N: any other suggestions people?
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(Sat/02:08:59 PM) %Delko: a faster gliscor can work
(Sat/02:09:13 PM) D4RR3N|Sleep: like the kind of subtoxic scor people run nowadays?
(Sat/02:09:23 PM) %Delko: sure
(Sat/02:09:25 PM) D4RR3N|Sleep: my evs are pretty old
(Sat/02:09:42 PM) %Delko: 220 speed evs should be enough
(Sat/02:09:49 PM) %Delko: outspeed adamant lucario etc
(Sat/02:11:25 PM) D4RR3N|Sleep: kk, bbl
(Sat/02:11:34 PM) %Delko: unfortunaly still doesn't do anything against jirachi
(Sat/02:11:40 PM) %Delko: k, bye
(Sat/02:11:49 PM) %Delko: anyone else has a team?
(Sat/02:12:13 PM) %Delko: k, break time then, brb ;)
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(Sat/02:12:48 PM) Eo: hey I had a team
(Sat/02:13:20 PM) razza: post
(Sat/02:13:40 PM) razza: or is the lectur over?
(Sat/02:15:21 PM) Eo: http://pastebin.com/y0tyXt7v
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(Sat/02:17:00 PM) razza: What you weak to?
(Sat/02:17:15 PM) Eo: nothing, I'm too good
(Sat/02:17:44 PM) razza: I would go solarbeam on Venusaur
(Sat/02:17:48 PM) razza: You seem like ebelt landorus is annoying
(Sat/02:18:55 PM) Eo: yeah
(Sat/02:19:04 PM) Eo: this team's biggest threats are probably Expert Belt Landorus, Chansey, Gliscor, and Mammoswine
(Sat/02:19:20 PM) Eo: but I can play around them
(Sat/02:20:27 PM) &blue: eo getting a team rated in #rmt...
(Sat/02:20:38 PM) Eo: master team rater bloo, rate my team
(Sat/02:20:46 PM) &blue: No.
(Sat/02:20:51 PM) Eo: . . .
(Sat/02:21:32 PM) razza: This team is rly similar to stone colds
(Sat/02:21:32 PM) razza: I personally like growth victreebell with giga drain over Venusaur
(Sat/02:21:32 PM) razza: Weather ball growth hp ice
(Sat/02:21:32 PM) razza: But that leaves you weaker to mamoswine
(Sat/02:22:02 PM) razza: I would replace latios I think
(Sat/02:22:14 PM) razza: If you want to patch up someweaknesses
(Sat/02:22:59 PM) Eo: Interesting.
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(Sat/02:26:17 PM) razza: What does Latios do for you?
(Sat/02:26:49 PM) Eo: it wrecks stuff
(Sat/02:27:51 PM) Eo: also good failsafe for stuff like virizion and terrakion
(Sat/02:27:55 PM) Eo: if I can't keep weather up
(Sat/02:29:06 PM) razza: I think an alakazam could fill a similar role
(Sat/02:29:11 PM) razza: To Latios
(Sat/02:29:30 PM) Eo: perhaps
(Sat/02:30:00 PM) razza: Although I'm not sure whetherit would help
(Sat/02:31:40 PM) razza: Mew patches up your Chansey mamoswine and landorus weakneses
(Sat/02:32:16 PM) razza: with stallbreaker set
(Sat/02:33:00 PM) razza: And also Gliscor with ice beam
(Sat/02:33:11 PM) Eo: gliscor with ice beam is not a threat
(Sat/02:33:32 PM) Eo: actually I don't have a chansey weakness I have gliscor and terrakion
(Sat/02:33:36 PM) Eo: idk why I said that
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(Sat/02:38:21 PM) Hyperbeem: ill rate it eo
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(Sat/02:38:29 PM) Hyperbeem: I see you are weak to double dance haxorus
(Sat/02:38:35 PM) Hyperbeem: therefore use physically defensive skarmory
(Sat/02:38:51 PM) Eo: I don't think I'm weak to double dance haxorus
(Sat/02:39:02 PM) %Delko: what's the team?
(Sat/02:39:10 PM) Hyperbeem: lol I didn't look at the team
(Sat/02:39:15 PM) Hyperbeem: everyone is weak to it :)
(Sat/02:39:17 PM) Eo: http://pastebin.com/y0tyXt7v
(Sat/02:39:42 PM) %Delko: any problems besides double dance haxorus?
(Sat/02:40:55 PM) razza: Ground and ice moves used in conjunction
(Sat/02:41:00 PM) Eo: I'm not weak to double dance haxorus
(Sat/02:41:08 PM) Eo: it can't set up on anything
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(Sat/02:41:19 PM) Eo: and venusaur revenges it
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(Sat/02:43:48 PM) %Delko: well
(Sat/02:44:20 PM) %Delko: i would use timid on venusaur to outspeed cloyster at +2