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- Re: Diplomacy Fall 1901
- « Sent to: Schezo on: April 09, 2011, 02:53:24 am » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Uh, I'm not going to be able to do anything to the Ottomans without your help. In any case, I've drawn up a foolproof plan for taking out the Turkish resistance - but I'll need to be working closely with you.
- In the spring I'll need your Fleet from Sevestapol to support my Budapestian army into Rumania. This is necessary because we need your fleet in Sevestapol in the fall to cut Turkey's support on Bulgaria. Meanwhile your army in Warsaw should move to Ukraine to move into Rumania in the fall (unless you don't want it, but I'm assuming you will, and the support will be nice).
- Then in the fall, I will be launching an assault on Bulgaria, where I move my Rumanian army into Bulgaria(this is where you move the Warsaw army into Rumania). The crucial part is that your fleet in Sevestapol has to attack the Black Sea to cut support from there, or else there is no way we will ever be able to break Turkey's fortress.
- So what do you think? Also, I'm naturally a bit hesitant on invading Germany because there's no way I would be able to devote enough troops to defend on all fronts if I fought Germany (not to mention Italy and Turkey would jump at the chance to invade me while I was attacking).
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Schezo on: April 09, 2011, 04:07:19 am » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Cool. Just to confirm, what actions will your Sevestapol and Warsaw units be taking this turn?
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Schezo on: April 09, 2011, 05:04:20 am » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Okay, it's fine if you keep your western units behind. Uh, I'm still going to need F Sevestopol support A Budapest to Rumania though. Are you willing to do so?
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Schezo on: April 09, 2011, 05:06:27 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Sigh...that's not really the issue. Without Sevestopol to cut Black Sea this means Bulgaria will hold in the Fall in a 3v3. Turkey wins, we both lose. At best we reach a stalemate in the Balkans.
- The earliest we can try this again is next spring if you build a new fleet in Sevestapol in the winter, assuming your other supply centers are kept. Otherwise we are at an impasse.
- All this makes me feel like you are working more closely with Turkey than you are letting on, and it makes me wary.
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Schezo on: April 09, 2011, 05:08:11 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- So let me summarize. We can still do this next spring. You will have a fleet in Rumania and a new fleet built in Sevestapol. Then we carry the plan out as before.
- Do you agree to this proposal?
- Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Shadoweh on: April 09, 2011, 05:10:20 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Do not trust the Russians or the Norwegians. That's all I can give you at this point.
- Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Yonowaaru on: April 09, 2011, 05:12:31 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- So, what are you plans in Tyrolia for this turn? :3
- Just making sure because I've been hearing weird things about that area.
- Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Serp on: April 09, 2011, 05:33:13 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Hey, are you going to be bothering the Russians in the North? I need to take into account how many units Russia will be able to commit against the Turks, so I was wondering if you could share any information in that respect.
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Schezo on: April 09, 2011, 05:35:55 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Hmm, okay. Well, I can only trust you at this point. If you hold up your side of the deal, I may be able to help you in your move to the west in future endeavours. If not, I'll be suiciding on you. :P
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Serp on: April 09, 2011, 05:46:25 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Oh, okay. I can't say I'm too happy with that, but at the same team, it removes an extra variable, so. :V
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Schezo on: April 09, 2011, 05:51:44 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- This just in. I have received evidence that Norway, Germany, and Turkey are planning a triple pronged attack on your territories. I'm not sure when or how they will strike though, but it will be either this turn or the next. Just a general notice. You better not die before you carry out your side of the deal. >_>
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Shadoweh on: April 09, 2011, 06:23:44 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Well, Norway is obviously more trustworthy than Russia in your case. But seeing as I don't have exact details, I can't make any big conclusions.
- Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Creator of Doll.S on: April 09, 2011, 06:30:37 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Hey Doll, how much do you want Sevastopol? I know you don't trust me, but I have a plan that depends entirely on your actions, so you don't have to worry about me messing it up. Suffice to say that I have evidence that Russia is planning on backstabbing you in the near future, and by doing this, you snipe his actions in the bud before they can do any damage. (Russia is also about to be attacked from two other fronts, so you might want to grab territory before Norway and Germany do). As a bonus, this will strengthen your position against mine - I don't gain anything from this personally.
- So here is the important part. Your fleet in the Black Sea should move into Sevestopol. Now you may ask, how will you be sure Sevestopol will be empty for your fleet to move into? Well, your army in Bulgaria will support Russia's Sevestopol fleet into Rumania. Bulgaria itself will be supported by Constantinople.
- Mind, I'm still going to be attacking you afterwards :P (not this turn, I have to take care of some border trouble first) but this is a little something that will help with the extra variables.
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Schezo on: April 09, 2011, 06:31:48 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- In any case, I just sent a sort of gambit to Turkey. It should help us take him down in the fall if he goes for it (unlikely, given our history).
- Good luck with your Northern brothers. :P
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Shadoweh on: April 09, 2011, 07:31:45 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- >:?
- I'm not really understanding Serp's plan here. But it is rather convenient that Kiel will be emptied out. Hmmmm.
- If if if if. The idea of a France and Italy team is interesting, but I don't know how likely that is.
- His first paragraph is pretty funny though, and he's right in that I don't really have a game plan. :V Right now it's just "beat the Turks up and don't die in the process." And a lot of WIFOM.
- In any case, it's obvious that Serp is playing both sides to decide which will give him the best outcome. You should probably negotiate with him some more or something to see what he's up to.
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Schezo on: April 09, 2011, 07:41:16 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Also, the PM in question.
- Quote from: Serp on April 09, 2011, 05:40:56 pm
- [Unless Germany is intending to betray me, Russia should be well on its way to destruction by the end of the year.]
- I think Norway is definitely playing both sides. Watch out for him.
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Shadoweh on: April 09, 2011, 09:33:42 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Wait what. :V
- This game is such a trainwreck.
- Turkey still hasn't responded to any of my messages. :(
- I'm wondering where he's getting these ideas from though, seeing as I even said in the message I was going to attack him, not Russia. :P
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Shadoweh on: April 09, 2011, 09:47:05 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Here, this is what I sent to Doll.
- Actually, I have no idea why I included that line in there, as it's not relevant at all. Oops. :colonveeplusalpha:
- FFFF Diplomacy is not my game oh well.
- My plan was to get Turkey in a weird position so I could set up him for a joint Austrian-Russian invasion in the fall. I'm actually working with Russia down there, so I don't know why he insinuated I'm attacking Russia.
- Quote from: Conqueror on April 09, 2011, 06:30:37 pm
- [Hey Doll, how much do you want Sevastopol? I know you don't trust me, but I have a plan that depends entirely on your actions, so you don't have to worry about me messing it up. Suffice to say that I have evidence that Russia is planning on backstabbing you in the near future, and by doing this, you snipe his actions in the bud before they can do any damage. (Russia is also about to be attacked from two other fronts, so you might want to grab territory before Norway and Germany do). As a bonus, this will strengthen your position against mine - I don't gain anything from this personally.
- So here is the important part. Your fleet in the Black Sea should move into Sevestopol. Now you may ask, how will you be sure Sevestopol will be empty for your fleet to move into? Well, your army in Bulgaria will support Russia's Sevestopol fleet into Rumania. Bulgaria itself will be supported by Constantinople.
- Mind, I'm still going to be attacking you afterwards :P (not this turn, I have to take care of some border trouble first) but this is a little something that will help with the extra variables.]
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Shadoweh on: April 09, 2011, 10:04:18 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
- I mean, I told Russia I was sending Turkey a gambit. It's all up to Russia whether or not he believes me though. :V
- Re: Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Yonowaaru on: April 10, 2011, 04:37:27 am » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Yeah, it's a no man's land. No one can enter it.
- Diplomacy Spring 1902
- « Sent to: Dorian G. on: April 10, 2011, 11:18:02 am » ReplyQuoteDelete
- Austria:
- A Trieste to Vienna
- A Budapest to Vienna
- F Greece to Aegean Sea
- A Albania to Greece
- A Serbia to Bulgaria
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